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hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are maya goodfellow, political writer and academic, and ali miraj, who is a columnist at the article. let's bring you up—to—date with some of the front pages they've seen already. the metro reports on those allegations that terror suspect ali harbi ali, accused of murdering sir david amess, plotted for two years to kill an mp. the times say ali is also accused of targeting two other unnamed mps. ministers are considering plans to cut the waiting time for the covid boosterjab to five months, according to the telgraph. on the same story,
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the mail says it'll mean nine million people getting the third jab early. on a similar theme, the i says the new vaccines minister is �*missing' — saying that maggie throup hasn't made a media appearance for six weeks. (ani)the guardian says gps in england are threatening industrial action in protest at the government s attempt to force them to see any patient who wants a face—to—face appointment. inflation is heading toward 5% according to the ft, which says the bank of england are deliberating an interst rate rise. let's begin with a story that has begun on the front page of tomorrow's the sun, which they are calling an exclusive which reports that the queen actually spent wednesday night not resting at windsor castle after advice that she flight to northern ireland for a two day visit, but instead she was admitted to hospital. according to our royal correspondentjohnny diamond, medical advice our royal correspondentjohnny diamond, medicaladvice following,
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diamond, medical advice following, she diamond, medicaladvice following, she rested wednesday afternoon for some per limiter investigations, returning to windsor castle at lunchtime today, thursday. she remains in good spirits and, according to sources, she told the bbc she was back at her desk on thursday afternoon. they also say that a cautious approach is been taken by the relevant team on any treatment the queen requires. this is a bit of a bombshell. yes. treatment the queen requires. this is a bit of a bombshell.— is a bit of a bombshell. yes, but from what _ is a bit of a bombshell. yes, but from what the _ is a bit of a bombshell. yes, but from what the report _ is a bit of a bombshell. yes, but from what the report was - is a bit of a bombshell. yes, but - from what the report was suggesting, this was something that was a precaution, if you like, and in the story, it talks about how one of her upcoming plans was to go to glasgow for the cup 26 conference, so this is reallyjust about for the cup 26 conference, so this is really just about the fact that they are saying they want her to take precautions and she was all fit and well, and she was being discharged now. what would you make of it. 7 discharged now. what would you make of it. ? ., ., , .,
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of it. ? look, the ma'ority of the --eole of it. ? look, the ma'ority of the people in — of it. ? look, the ma'ority of the people in this h of it. ? look, the majority of the people in this country _ of it. ? look, the majority of the people in this country have - of it. ? look, the majority of the people in this country have the l people in this country have the utmost— people in this country have the utmost respect for her majesty, and she's_ utmost respect for her majesty, and she's been_ utmost respect for her majesty, and she's been through a really difficult _ she's been through a really difficult time this year with the lost of— difficult time this year with the lost of prince philip, who was at her side — lost of prince philip, who was at her side for— lost of prince philip, who was at her side for such a debt from such a young _ her side for such a debt from such a young age — her side for such a debt from such a young age. as she said, a consummate professional, _ young age. as she said, a consummate professional, always to unite the country — professional, always to unite the country. the one individual who rises _ country. the one individual who rises above _ country. the one individual who rises above party politics, and the time _ rises above party politics, and the time that— rises above party politics, and the time that we've had with the pandemic in the last 18 months, the appearances and statements she's made _ appearances and statements she's made have really united the nation and touched the heart of the nation. so and touched the heart of the nation. 50 she's_ and touched the heart of the nation. 50 she's a _ and touched the heart of the nation. so she's a unique individual, it's not surprising at all that she was on her_ not surprising at all that she was on her red — not surprising at all that she was on her red box again because that's what _ on her red box again because that's what we _ on her red box again because that's what we expect of her. i think we should _ what we expect of her. i think we should also, given the time and space _ should also, given the time and space -- — should also, given the time and space —— give herthe time and space —— give her the time and space to recover~ _ space —— give her the time and space to recover. clearly she's passing on the baton— to recover. clearly she's passing on the baton to — to recover. clearly she's passing on the baton to prince charles and william, — the baton to prince charles and william, which makes sense. charles has his— william, which makes sense. charles has his own _ william, which makes sense. charles has his own concerns about the populaiity _ has his own concerns about the popularity of the monarchy, that's a
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separate _ popularity of the monarchy, that's a separate issue, but our thoughts are with her— separate issue, but our thoughts are with her and — separate issue, but our thoughts are with her and hope that she's all right— with her and hope that she's all right it's — with her and hope that she's all right it's a _ with her and hope that she's all right it's a dilemma for the palace. . how much do they say about things like hospital— . how much do they say about things like hospital admission? _ . how much do they say about things like hospital admission? say - like hospital admission? say nothing. when it happens, just tell us when she safely back home. at the end of the day, no one knows how long they'll be in the hospital when they are admitted, and what other things might be admitted during one of these pulmonary investigations. she's 95, we've accepted that is elderly, — she's 95, we've accepted that is elderly, she's still in good health and the _ elderly, she's still in good health and the rest, and we all need to understand and appreciate that. clearly. — understand and appreciate that. clearly, the palace is tight—lipped, but the _ clearly, the palace is tight—lipped, but the queen is a very beloved figure. — but the queen is a very beloved figure, and rightfully so. take us to the daily _
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figure, and rightfully so. take us to the daily telegraph, - figure, and rightfully so. take us to the daily telegraph, laura - to the daily telegraph, laura kuenssberg appears on a number of papers — she could be moving on to pastures new within the bbc. but the story i'm interested in is on the top left of the paper, "boosterjab weight could be cut to five months." this is an interesting one. . so what this is an interesting one. . sr what story suggests is that there are discussions in whitehall and jcvi about cutting this wait time, and what the analysis suggests is that 9,000,000 more people would receive the boosterjab if that change were to happen now, and that would double the number of people who are eligible. there's a number of things to note about this — this is really set against a high rate of covid in the uk at the moment, so this would be one strategy through which to protect people and reduce the chance of even more
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hospitalisations at the moment. but this needs to be set in context — while the vaccine is incredibly important in the uk, there is also a global angle to this as well, and whenever we talk about this, it's really important to recognise the huge numbers of people around the world that are not vaccinated because of countries like the uk and elsewhere, like richer countries. no one is safe until everyone is safe, that's really important. but this is one part of an approach, and you'll hear a lot of talk over the past few days about the government saying they won't put in operation plan b — mbappe or two things they could be doing at the moment. one is making sure people are wearing masks indoors, where rates are so much lower in europe than in the uk. and another thing they said they would do that hasn't really been happening at a fast enough rate in any sense of the word is ensuring that there is ventilation in places like schools. in august, they told
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schools. in august, they told schools that they would be provided with c02 monitors to make schools safer. there was supposed to be 300,000 in total, and we found out last week that 2% of those have been delivered to schools. the vaccine matters, but there's a number of other things that could be done to reduce what our incredibly high rates when you look at our numbers, in comparison to large parts of europe. . b. in comparison to large parts of eumpe- -_ in comparison to large parts of euroe.. �* , , ., in comparison to large parts of euroe.. ~ , , ., europe. . a couple things now, as ou sa , europe. . a couple things now, as you say. the _ europe. . a couple things now, as you say. the face _ europe. . a couple things now, as you say, the face mask _ europe. . a couple things now, as you say, the face mask thing - europe. . a couple things now, as you say, the face mask thing is i europe. . a couple things now, asj you say, the face mask thing is an issue, they are still required in both scotland and wales, and that's part of the debate in the uk about why they are doing it and england isn't. you mentioned thejoint committee on vaccinations and immunisation, they'll seek a recommendation from them about whether this should happen. there's a sense that the programme is not progressing with the same alacrity as the original vaccination programme — which, despite as the prime minister is saying, there's
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plenty of doses of vaccine at the moment. there no slowing down because of supply issues, it's there and ready, it'sjust somehow because of supply issues, it's there and ready, it's just somehow not getting into people's arms at the moment and at the rates that people were expecting. moment and at the rates that people were “petting-— were expecting. that's right, and the highest _ were expecting. that's right, and the highest risk _ were expecting. that's right, and the highest risk groups, - were expecting. that's right, and the highest risk groups, it's - the highest risk groups, it's 1,000,000 that have had it out of 2.5 1,000,000 that have had it out of 25 million — 1,000,000 that have had it out of 2.5 million. so there's an issue there. — 2.5 million. so there's an issue there. and _ 2.5 million. so there's an issue there, and sir keir starmer was saying — there, and sir keir starmer was saying the _ there, and sir keir starmer was saying the government should be aiming _ saying the government should be aiming for500,000jabs a saying the government should be aiming for 500,000 jabs a day — i think— aiming for 500,000 jabs a day — i think saiid— aiming for 500,000 jabs a day — i think sajid javid, this is right at the top — think sajid javid, this is right at the top of— think sajid javid, this is right at the top of his priority list, and he's _ the top of his priority list, and he's trying _ the top of his priority list, and he's trying to encourage this because _ he's trying to encourage this because this is the way to keep society— because this is the way to keep society open. if we are now going to be talking _ society open. if we are now going to be talking about vaccine passwords as part _ be talking about vaccine passwords as part of _ be talking about vaccine passwords as part of plan b, which has already been _ as part of plan b, which has already been introduced in wales and scotland, i think the government has to look— scotland, i think the government has to look at— scotland, i think the government has to look at this — the scientists will always have one metric, which is to prevent deaths and also prevent— is to prevent deaths and also prevent the nhs being overwhelmed.
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so that's— prevent the nhs being overwhelmed. so that's their metric, the government has a much broader range of considerations in terms of the economy, — of considerations in terms of the economy, public health, but also mental— economy, public health, but also mental health and physical health as well. mental health and physical health as well look_ mental health and physical health as well. look at the backlog in the nhs to contend _ well. look at the backlog in the nhs to contend with. theyjust need to keep pressing people to get their 'abs keep pressing people to get their jabs as _ keep pressing people to get their jabs as possible. . this keep pressing people to get their jabs as possible. ._ jabs as possible. . this is an interesting _ jabs as possible. . this is an interesting question, - jabs as possible. . this is an i interesting question, because jabs as possible. . this is an - interesting question, because one of theissues interesting question, because one of the issues that came up earlier... the hospital gets overwhelmed by patients, you could divert patients other hospitals because there are plenty. we've seen tonight the problems in cornwall where they've only had access to one unit for the whole county, and they basically said last night, we've got 44 cases of covid and hospitalisation and only beds for a0 people. in some cases, people were waiting for and balances for 12 hours. that's the kind of situation that isn't
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sustainable in those parts of the country, is it? sustainable in those parts of the country. is it?— sustainable in those parts of the country, is it? that's true. at the moment. — country, is it? that's true. at the moment. out _ country, is it? that's true. at the moment, out of— country, is it? that's true. at the moment, out of the _ country, is it? that's true. at the j moment, out of the thousands of country, is it? that's true. at the - moment, out of the thousands of beds the nhs _ moment, out of the thousands of beds the nhs has come a 7,000 are taken up the nhs has come a 7,000 are taken upwith— the nhs has come a 7,000 are taken up with covid cases. the health minister— up with covid cases. the health minister was saying there's no need to panic— minister was saying there's no need to panic yet — minister was saying there's no need to panic yet because there's still 7,000~ — to panic yet because there's still 7,000. but it's not evenly spread. the only— 7,000. but it's not evenly spread. the only way to deal with this is for people — the only way to deal with this is for people to get theirjabs and for those _ for people to get theirjabs and for those people who haven't even had a first jab _ those people who haven't even had a first jab who are still resisting for whatever reasons to try and allay _ for whatever reasons to try and allay their _ for whatever reasons to try and allay their fears, get over those fears— allay their fears, get over those fears lry— allay their fears, get over those fears by getting more education and being _ fears by getting more education and being more comfortable about it, to -et being more comfortable about it, to get that— being more comfortable about it, to get that only partly the passport idea was— get that only partly the passport idea was partly to incentivize people — idea was partly to incentivize people that haven't had the jab to id people that haven't had the jab to go get _ people that haven't had the jab to go get one. that's our only defence here, _ go get one. that's our only defence here, and _ go get one. that's our only defence here, and it — go get one. that's our only defence here, and it looks like there's a report— here, and it looks like there's a report that _ here, and it looks like there's a report that the pfizerjab is very effective. — report that the pfizerjab is very effective, astrazeneca also not too far behind — effective, astrazeneca also not too far behind it. sol effective, astrazeneca also not too far behind it. so i think we all need — far behind it. so i think we all need to— far behind it. so i think we all need to go get newjabs. the far behind it. so i think we all need to go get new jabs. the front need to go get new 'abs. the front ofthe
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need to go get new 'abs. the front of the guardian, — need to go get new jabs. the front of the guardian, it's _ need to go get new jabs. the front of the guardian, it's part _ need to go get new jabs. the front of the guardian, it's part of- of the guardian, it's part of the background of this is the pressure coming back from government for returning to face—to—face meetings with gps — the gps saying the reason we've been more productive is we haven't been doing so many face—to—face, the number of patients gotten through has been higher. but the relationship is souring rapidly judging by the front of the guardian. judging by the front of the guardian-— judging by the front of the guardian. ,, ., , ., guardian. essentially what has ha--ened guardian. essentially what has happened as _ guardian. essentially what has happened as the _ guardian. essentially what has happened as the british - guardian. essentially what has i happened as the british medical association, the bma, gp committee has voted to reject this attempt by sajid javid to essentially say to gps that you need to be seeing more people face—to—face, you need to deliver those face—to—face appointments — and what this vote would lead to potentially as them having a ballot on industrial action. that must be rubber—stamped, as the guardian describes it, by the bma's ruling council, that hasn't happened yet so we will have to wait and see what happens there. but if
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this goes ahead, this will be gps really trying to get sajid javid to change his mind on this. it's quite complicated in terms of how this would look, but in terms of the impact on industrial action, most likely it would mean for most of us that it would impact what we experience in terms of seeing our gp at the moment, but like things about them not complying with obligations like overseeing the covid exemption process. one of the things here is sajid javid seems to be trying to apply pressure to gps, but one of the things that the chair of the bma is — one of the issues here is the lack of gps, the number of gps since 2015 has fallen by 1,800. so what they're saying is we are so overworked, we don't have the time. so, picking this fight, as the way the guardian phrased it, doesn't
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seem to be a smart decision particularly given the immense pressure that so much of our professional medical —— medical professional medical —— medical profession is under. this is because they are already incredibly overworked and struggling with workloads as it is.— overworked and struggling with workloads as it is. time to pour some oil on _ workloads as it is. time to pour some oil on troubled _ workloads as it is. time to pour some oil on troubled waters. i workloads as it is. time to pour some oil on troubled waters. ? | workloads as it is. time to pour| some oil on troubled waters. ? i workloads as it is. time to pour - some oil on troubled waters. ? i do think that this — some oil on troubled waters. ? i do think that this bat needs to be dealt — think that this bat needs to be dealt with quickly. we don't want to have a _ dealt with quickly. we don't want to have a return to the standoff that occurred — have a return to the standoff that occurred a — have a return to the standoff that occurred a few years ago with junior doctors _ occurred a few years ago with junior doctors no— occurred a few years ago with junior doctors. no one needs that, especially not at a time like this. but i _ especially not at a time like this. but i do — especially not at a time like this. but i do think the system in general of care _ but i do think the system in general of care is— but i do think the system in general of care is not very patient sensitive _ of care is not very patient sensitive at all. in certain cases you just — sensitive at all. in certain cases you just need a referral to a specialist _ you just need a referral to a specialist and it's pretty straightforward. you shouldn't have to go _ straightforward. you shouldn't have to go see _ straightforward. you shouldn't have to go see a — straightforward. you shouldn't have to go see a gp in person at all. on the other— to go see a gp in person at all. on the other hand there are lots of people who do need to see their gps in person. _ people who do need to see their gps in person, and the fact that they've not been _ in person, and the fact that they've not been seeing them has led to the fact that _ not been seeing them has led to the fact that more serious elements are not being _ fact that more serious elements are not being dealt with sufficiently quickly — not being dealt with sufficiently quickly and ramping up and becoming
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a lot worse _ quickly and ramping up and becoming a lot worse. so you'll have much more _ a lot worse. so you'll have much more serious problems down the line because _ more serious problems down the line because people aren't getting the treatment they need in hospital, having _ treatment they need in hospital, having been referred by their gp at the right— having been referred by their gp at the right time. also a lot of elderly— the right time. also a lot of elderly patients need to see their gps either at home or in surgery. i don't _ gps either at home or in surgery. i don't know— gps either at home or in surgery. i don't know about you, but if you try to get _ don't know about you, but if you try to get through to your gp, it's a nightmare _ to get through to your gp, it's a nightmare. you have to get first past _ nightmare. you have to get first past the — nightmare. you have to get first past the receptionist, if you can -et past the receptionist, if you can get through to the receptionist after— get through to the receptionist after pressing six options. it's not the best— after pressing six options. it's not the best experience as a punter when you're _ the best experience as a punter when you're dealing with a gp. i love gpsi _ you're dealing with a gp. i love gps, my— you're dealing with a gp. i love gps, my mother was a doctor in the nhs for— gps, my mother was a doctor in the nhs for 40 — gps, my mother was a doctor in the nhs for 40 years, so i have a lot of affection _ nhs for 40 years, so i have a lot of affection for — nhs for 40 years, so i have a lot of affection for the nhs — but let's -et affection for the nhs — but let's get real, — affection for the nhs — but let's get real, the provision of care by gps is _ get real, the provision of care by gps is not — get real, the provision of care by gps is not universally consistent in every— gps is not universally consistent in every part— gps is not universally consistent in every part of the country. | gps is not universally consistent in every part of the country.- every part of the country. i was talkint every part of the country. i was talking to _ every part of the country. i was talking to a _ every part of the country. i was talking to a junior— every part of the country. i was talking to a junior doctor - every part of the country. i was talking to a junior doctor at - every part of the country. i was talking to a junior doctor at a l talking to a junior doctor at a hospital. a couple weeks ago who was saying that he's been doing placements for gps, and most of it has been online. he says he understands why, and it's sensible in a lot of cases, but he worries about those things that might be
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