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this is bbc news with the latest headlines. the chairman of yorkshire county cricket club resigns over the racism row as the board prepare to hold an emergency meeting. roger hutton apologises to azeem rafiq and criticises the culture at the club, saying it refused to change — and he's accused the ecb of declining to help. former england captain michael vaughan says he was named in yorkshire's azeem rafiq report but "totally denies any "allegation of racism". a senior cabinet minister admits the government made a mistake over its handling of the owen paterson case — amid criticism of the prime minister. we made a mistake.
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thanks the chairman of yorkshire cricket club, roger hutton, has resigned over the club's response to the racism experienced by one of its former players, azeem rafiq. it comes after an investigation found mr rafiq was a victim of "racial harassment and bullying" — after which the club said they would take no disciplinary action. mr hutton — who had been under mounting pressure to step down — "apologised unreservedly" to 30—year—old rafiq. he said the club "should have recognised at the time the serious "allegations of racism". he also accused the club of "a culture that " refuses to accept change or challenge". he was also highly critical of the england and wales cricket board, claiming the governing body "declined to help". his resignation came before an emergency board meeting today, amid calls for "heads "to roll�* at the club. azeem rafiq, who represented yorkshire in two stints between 2008 and 2018, said "institutional racism" at the club had left him close to taking his own life. let's speak to our sports correspondent at headingley, laura scott.
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roger hutton has gone, who else? he said other nonexecutive members of the board had joined him in stepping down. this comes after political pressure and a commercial crisis. he called on executive board members to step down also to create what he said would be a new path for the club. he said in his statement he had hoped he really believed that at the helm of the club he could to drag the club out of the past and into the future, but he has gone today, amid this worsening crisis. clearly a very troubling situation. it started last year when azeem rafiq made those allegations of institutionalised racism at the club. the club then refused to take disciplinary action, when it's found
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he had been the victim of racial harassment and bullying. but this disastrous week is not over yet, with this emergency board meeting today, as my colleague now reports. roger hutton apologised unreservedly to azeem rafiq. an independent panel found that a former —— that the former player had been the victim of bullying and at the club had taken no action. this week batsmen said he regretted using a racial slur during conversations with his ex team—mate. he has been suspended indefinitely. he's been suspended from england selection indefinitely. now, the former england captain michael vaughan says he, too, was named in the report for allegedly telling a group of asian players, including rafiq, in 2009, that there "were too many of you lot".
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but in his daily telegraph column, vaughan writes, "this hit me very hard. the club has been suspended from hosting international matches by the england and wales cricket board for what it calls the "wholly unacceptable handling" of azeem rafiq's racism claims. it's really important that the ecb sends a message to cricket fans across this country that we will not stand for this. that racism, and anything to do with racism and discrimination of any kind, has absolutely no place in the game. the departing chairman is calling for more people to go and say she looks forward to the day when yorkshire cricket club is a great club again.
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why the criticism of the ecb? that came unexpectedly. roger hutton said in his statement that when the allegations by azeem rafiq were made he approached the ecb to ask them for their help and intervention in the matter. he said that he was saddened that they had declined to do so. we have not had a response from the ecb to that claim as yet. but today, azeem rafiq has spoken out, saying he was angry and sick to lead in the daily mail today about a second asian player reporting abuse in the wake of his own allegations. this player who has remained unnamed set his career was ruined, as yorkshire ignored him, and he also reveals, that his team—mates had urinated from his —— had urinated on him. we will try to get more details on that. he said this was about
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institutionalised racism at yorkshire. he said he wanted the club and the wider game to address that. the original 100 page report was not published. is that now going to be put out to the media? what do we know about the sponsors who have moved away? there have been a lot of concerns about that report and whether it could ever be published. there has only been so far a redacted version leaked to the media. the ecb received the full report only last week. they said that they went through the right processes but that it had been received later than they had hoped. the committee in yorkshire wrote to the board this year —— this week saying the process was flawed from the start because the report was unpublishable. we understand it is linked to the fact that azeem rafiq has an ongoing employment tribunal case with the club, therefore there are legal issues surrounding the publication
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of the report. but clearly a hugely troubling time for the club. as you mention, the commercialfall troubling time for the club. as you mention, the commercial fall of this has been keenly felt here at headingley. so many sponsors are cutting ties with the club this week, including nike, harrogate spring water, and emerald, a local publishing group, they had naming rights to headingley, they have cut their brand association also, this is hit yorkshire hard. thank you. speaking about this matter in the last hour or so, a middlesex cricketer. last hour or so, a middlesex cricketer-— last hour or so, a middlesex cricketer. ., , cricketer. there needed to be more statements — cricketer. there needed to be more statements coming _ cricketer. there needed to be more statements coming out, _ cricketer. there needed to be more| statements coming out, recognising that the environment was not right. seven counts of the 43 allegations that were made, seven of them were upheld. there was an apology to
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azeem rafiq, but no consequences. that is the thing that grates. we have heard sajid javid getting involved in this situation, saying that ecb must take action swiftly and decisively, otherwise it is not fit for purpose. they have done that. ramifications for yorkshire as a club are huge because they have now been suspended from hosting international matches, which is a very serious punishment, financially, and it has to make the club look long and hard at itself. 0pposition parties are discussing whether to work together to back an independent �*anti—sleaze' candidate in the by—election triggered by the resignation of conservative mp 0wen paterson. it would mean they wouldn't field their own party candidates. mr paterson stepped down amid a row over him breaking lobbying rules, which he denies. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas reports.
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0wen paterson resigned yesterday saying he was totally innocent, but the commissioner for standards found he had been paid £100,000 a year by two companies, then lobbied government on their behalf. there will now be a by—election to fill his seat, and the opposition parties look certain to make sleaze one of their central themes. mr paterson was in parliament on wednesday, when the government ordered all conservative mps to vote to block his suspension. the ayes to the right, 250... the opposition shouted "shame". ..232. all: shame! less than 24 hours later in the face of widespread outrage, the government u—turned. mr patterson, once again facing suspension, resigned. last night's vote has created a certain amount of controversy. it is important that standards in this house are done on a cross—party basis. but that's left the government with a problem... good evening. it's a nice evening, i hope you're enjoying it.
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could you give us your reaction to the resignation of owen paterson? look, 0wen has made his statement, and i'm sure you have seen it. the leader of the house of commons, jacob rees—mogg, still wants to change the system for investigating complaints against mps. but now has to convince the opposition that talk of reform wasn't just about trying to save mr patterson, there really is a need. the labour mp who chairs the existing standards committee told bbc newsnight it is already independent, wholesale reform isn't necessary. 0ur committee already exists. there's absolutely no need for another one, and the way the government has handled this, i'm afraid, does not auger well for cross—party consideration of this matter. and the business secretary is underfire, too. yesterday, he said the commissioner who found mr paterson had broken the rules should consider her position. do you still think the commissioner's going to have a difficult time
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staying in post? no. labour has written to the prime minister's ethics adviser saying kwasi kwarteng's comments should be investigated as an attempt to bully the commissioner. the fallout from this affair rumbles on. damian grammaticas, bbc news. 0ur chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now. so much for a cross—party opposition support about fielding an independent candidate, that seems to have broken down stop what do you make about the fact that this is a collective mistake of the government, a lot of people saying it went to the heart of number ten? 0n the first thing, cross—party talks, it looks like opposition parties flirted briefly with the idea of a joint anti—sleaze ticket, as they would describe it. labour are not taking part in these discussions anymore. labour sources are saying there will be a labour candidate in the shropshire north by—election. if they want an
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anti—sleaze candidate, vote for the labour party, is what they are saying. a reflection of the fact that 0wen paterson will not be standing, there will be a fresh tory face there. also, we do not know when that by—election will be called or when it will be held, that to be the next bit of the process. in terms of the politics, on the conservative side, you get conservative mps who are worried about what this is done for the reputation of parliament in general, and a fee fewjust wondering what it means for thejudgment of and a fee fewjust wondering what it means for the judgment of boris johnson in particular. you talk to some mps, who have voted with the government with that motion on that motion on wednesday night, knowing that this was inevitably going to be the feel a bit annoyed, i think, that they were going to march towards the gunfire. this morning, the person having to put a brave face on it was nadeem sahalee, education secretary, he did secretary, he did a rare thing minister, admitted that the government got it wrong. i take collective responsibility. - government got it wrong. i take collective responsibility. i- government got it wrong. i take collective responsibility. i am i government got it wrong. i take l collective responsibility. i am part of the government, part of the
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cabinets, i also take collective responsibility to say, we made a mistake. it was right with the leader of the is, jacob rees mogg, on behalf of the government, government, to go to the house and see the mistake was we should not have conflated the issue of fairness of process, right of appeal. i think thatis of process, right of appeal. i think that is right. i appealfor other parliamentarians to come together and make that work. we should not have completed that with the specific case of 0wen paterson. it is important that we separated those two things out. to admit a mistake is the right thing to do. mistakes are caused by somebody making the wrong decision. who made the wrong decision? well, as i say, i take collective responsibility... it's all of you? as a government. itwas a... obviously, an amendment by a backbencher, dame andrea leadsom... it was herfault? that we supported. no, no, no, look, ultimately, if you agree that we need a fairer system, because many other professions have a right of appeal in the economy, it's... there should be the same
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right for all mps. then we should pursue that. and i urge all colleagues to come together, shed our politics, and make that work really well. but if you also agree that it was wrong to conflate, because it confused the whole process, by saying, "well, "why 0wen paterson?" so it was right and we went back and said... look, we made a mistake. we reflected and went back within 24 hours. we made a mistake collectively. and we've come to the commons and said, "look, let's separate "these things out and let's do this properly" because fairness is important. you read the standards committee report into 0wen paterson and his case, it's very clear what they think, what 0wen paterson thinks, which is the opposite, whose side are you on, 0wen paterson or the committee? as far as 0wen paterson is concerned, he has now resigned. well, that doesn't matter, there is still the issue. i'm going to get to it. i actually haven't read the report, so it would be unfair of me to go through...
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so you voted on it without having read the report? no, hold on a second, hold on a second, bear with me a second. i've looked at the report, i haven't gone into the detail. 0wen says that... much of it is contested, right? i think something like 14 people have said statements like it's contested. that is a specific case, the standards committee havejudged on that. and jacob rees—mogg came back to the house and said, "we will have a vote on that". of course, events have overtaken that because 0wen has now resigned on this. the important thing to focus on is that we want a process that carries the confidence of the nation. that is right. because mps of all parties should have the right of appeal. whether the minister read the report or not while having another vote on it, an issue for another day for him to reflect on. if you other moving parts to this as well. nadeem zaha we might be a little bit optimistic about the prospects for these cross—party talks, about reform,
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about an appeals process. —— nadeem sahalee. —— zahawi. labour have written to the commissioner for standards about the commissioner for standards about the business secretary appearing to suggest that the future for parliamentary standards commissioner might have been called into question by all this. they think that amounts to bullying a public official, who should have their independence preserve. there is some speculation that maybe this entire manoeuvre by the government was aimed at her. speculation which is denied this morning by sources close to the prime minister. thank you. back to the racism row surrounding yorkshire county cricket club, roger hutton has retired —— has resigned.
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let's talk tojohn holder, who's the only non—white yorkshire county cricket club. it is not just it is notjust crickets problem. it is a society problem. this sort of language is used towards non—white people, day in, day out, in our country. this is probably one of the first times that a player has raised his head above the parapet and actually complained. this has been going on. there are a couple of former surrey players, who is youngsters upon joining surrey years ago, were abused by the then surrey second 11 coach, abused racially. this is nothing new.
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have you experienced racism as well? i have never had that problem. i had seven years at hampshire. i can say that has never happened to me. in my almost 57 years of living here, i have been abused racially twice, both by people from a distance, but the sort of thing that has happened at yorkshire, happens in other counties as well, but there needs to be a zero tolerance approach to this entire problem, because this is a problem. the stupid inane comments that you get, and it is always white players towards non—white players, thatis players towards non—white players, that is the problem, and it becomes hurtful after a while. it is not funny. this... there needs to be a zero tolerance among the 18 counties and cricket clubs up and down the country to these sort of crass comments. country to these sort of crass comments— country to these sort of crass comments. �* , ., ., , .,
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comments. are these hangovers though from a distant — comments. are these hangovers though from a distant past _ comments. are these hangovers though from a distant past in _ comments. are these hangovers though from a distant past in english _ from a distant past in english cricket? you think back to the 1960s and 1970s where racism, while not acceptable of course, was far more frequent and common.— frequent and common. yes, absolutely- _ frequent and common. yes, absolutely. but _ frequent and common. yes, absolutely. but non-white l frequent and common. 133 absolutely. but non—white players in the past have kept quiet. a lot of non—white players have kept quiet. as a result of what we saw last year with the treatment of george floyd, non—white people are standing up to be counted and complaining about injustices. i understand also that azeem rafiq had a complaint in 2017 about these sort of comments. i am sure that, as noble as gary ballance has been in coming out and making his comments and accepting responsibility, i am sure he is not the only one. responsibility, i am sure he is not the only one-— responsibility, i am sure he is not the only one. does this come from the only one. does this come from the structure _ the only one. does this come from the structure within _ the only one. does this come from the structure within the _ the only one. does this come from the structure within the club? - the only one. does this come from the structure within the club? arel
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the structure within the club? are you saying perhaps the people who are in or running cricket clubs are just not in tune with modern culture, and that is where the structure needs to be changed, because that is where the culture is a set? , ., , because that is where the culture is a set? , . , , �* a set? yes, that is very true. but also we need _ a set? yes, that is very true. but also we need non-white - a set? yes, that is very true. but also we need non-white players, j a set? yes, that is very true. but - also we need non-white players, when also we need non—white players, when they get abused, when they are subject to the sort of behaviour, they need to stand up and the need to report it. then they counties have got to put in a zero tolerance for that sort of behaviour. it is hurtful. as a non—white person, people are constantly making stupid comments about your colour, or your country, it becomes hurtful after a while, it is not funny. it's needs to be rooted out, it is difficult to get rid of it from society, but certainly addressed in team environments, trying to create team spirit and harmony within the team.
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and you have got a player constantly being ridiculed and abused, counties have got to adopt a zero tolerance. you said it had only happened to you twice, have you had players coming to you is talking about their experiences? in to you is talking about their experiences?— to you is talking about their experiences? we are experiences? in my... sorry. we are with ou. experiences? in my... sorry. we are with you- we — experiences? in my... sorry. we are with you- we are — experiences? in my... sorry. we are with you. we are speaking _ experiences? in my... sorry. we are with you. we are speaking to - experiences? in my... sorry. we are with you. we are speaking to john i with you. we are speaking tojohn holder, the only non—white test cricket umpire for 150 years. that was in the _ cricket umpire for 150 years. trust was in the background, my phone just was in the background, my phonejust rang. i cant say that in my years of umpiringi rang. i cant say that in my years of umpiring i have never encountered that sort of thing. —— by hannah c. it has been brushed under the carpet, this is probably the first
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time that a non—white player has made a public statement. ii'idta�*e time that a non-white player has made a public statement. have other -la ers made a public statement. have other players confided _ made a public statement. have other players confided in _ made a public statement. have other players confided in you, _ players confided in you, other black players confided in you, other black players who have said they have been racially abused? yes, absolutely. what have they told you? thea;r racially abused? yes, absolutely. what have they told you? they have talked about — what have they told you? they have talked about a _ what have they told you? they have talked about a culture _ what have they told you? they have talked about a culture of _ what have they told you? they have talked about a culture of stupid - talked about a culture of stupid comments, comments about their colour, about their race. they have said it is hurtful. i5 colour, about their race. they have said it is hurtful. is it colour, about their race. they have said it is hurtful.— said it is hurtful. is it ever banter? — said it is hurtful. is it ever banter? no, _ said it is hurtful. is it ever banter? no, it— said it is hurtful. is it ever banter? no, it cannot- said it is hurtful. is it ever banter? no, it cannot be. | banter? no, it cannot be. banter is a series of— banter? no, it cannot be. banter is a series of jokes. _ banter? no, it cannot be. banter is a series of jokes. the _ banter? no, it cannot be. banter is a series of jokes. the yorkshire - a series ofjokes. the yorkshire committee could manage to —— how the yorkshire committee could manage to turn racial harassment into friendly banter is beyond me. that is a refusal to accept something... [30
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refusal to accept something... do ou refusal to accept something... do you think other people will have to go? roger hutton has said he has resigned. we think that other resignations will occur as well. roger hutton was also critical of the ecb. ~ ., , roger hutton was also critical of the ecb. . . , the ecb. what part did they play in this? the ecb _ the ecb. what part did they play in this? the ecb are _ the ecb. what part did they play in this? the ecb are obviously - the ecb. what part did they play in this? the ecb are obviously the . this? the ecb are obviously the governing body of the game. last year, when there was a case against the ecb, there was reference to a meeting where someone was on the first class and byres reserve list, there was a meeting between officials and umpires, and umpire made a racist comment towards him, the two board officials never reported that, never said a word. it is even happening within the ecb itself. thank you for speaking to us this
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morning. let us return to that story about the resignation of 0wen paterson. a u—turn that led to 0wen paterson resigning yesterday afternoon. let's speak to conservative peer lord barwell — he was downing street chief of staff in theresa may's government. not something you would have wanted to have on your hands a couple of days ago. to have on your hands a couple of da s auo. ~ . to have on your hands a couple of da sauo.~ ., ., , days ago. what went wrong? it is clearl a days ago. what went wrong? it is clearly a terrible _ days ago. what went wrong? it is clearly a terrible mistake - days ago. what went wrong? it is clearly a terrible mistake that - clearly a terrible mistake that number ten and the government as a whole made in trying to get 0wen paterson off the hook and change the rules. if you are asking me why it happens, it is not easy for me to answer, since it was politically bad for the government, the conservative party, and owen paterson. my best
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guess, and i do not think a lot of your viewers will have sympathy with it, here goes, sometimes in life, when one of our friends does something wrong, there is a natural to see the best in them, in this case in particular, given the tragic events that 0wen paterson and his family have been through with his wife very sadly taking her own life, they would have been understandable compassion for him. therefore, what went wrong, i think, is that nobody around the prime minister said to him, i understand you are sorry for owen paterson, you feel he has been 0wen paterson, you feel he has been hard done by, but this will look terrible if you do this, or maybe somebody did say that but the prime minister didn't listen to him. either way, that speaks to a problem in terms of the way the government is handling this issue.— is handling this issue. explain for our viewers _ is handling this issue. explain for our viewers the _ is handling this issue. explain for our viewers the structure - is handling this issue. explain for our viewers the structure of - is handling this issue. explain for our viewers the structure of howl our viewers the structure of how these decisions are made. a lot of criticism in some newspapers this morning about the chief whip. the chief whip would not have acted unilaterally? he would have been instructed by the prime minister? it
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is possible that the chief whip advised the prime minister to do it and the prime minister agreed, or possible that the chief whip was told by the permissive to do it. i am not in the room, i cannot tell you. but it is not plausible that there was not a conversation between there was not a conversation between the prime minister and the chief whip, and i suspect the leader of the house, jacob rees mogg, would have been involved in the decision—making as well. prime minister and advisers in number ten, the house, the house, it would have been the people i suspect involved in the decision—making. haifa been the people i suspect involved in the decision-making. how unusual is it to be quipped. — in the decision-making. how unusual is it to be quipped, a _ in the decision-making. how unusual is it to be quipped, a three _ in the decision-making. how unusual is it to be quipped, a three line - is it to be quipped, a three line whip, and something like this? hat whip, and something like this? iyrrt unprecedented, but unusual. normally on house business the government would be applying three line whips. i think we jacob rees mogg made his statement trying to execute this u—turn yesterday he acknowledged that the mistake had been to conflate how you handled this individual case with the concerns
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some people had about the rules and how they were working generally. it is never right, i think, to try and change the rules in the middle of a case. he has acknowledged that, and the two have now been separated. when you were working for your boss you are used to a lot of disgruntled tory mps being behind you. how much damage has this done to boris johnson at the moment? walking all his mps up to the top and then sending them back down again. in the short term it — sending them back down again. in the short term it has _ sending them back down again. in the short term it has done _ sending them back down again. in the short term it has done a _ sending them back down again. in the short term it has done a lot _ short term it has done a lot of damage. there are a few things mps hate more than being ordered to vote for something that they know is going to get them a lot of criticism in their constituencies, and then the government changes its mind, and they feel like they've taken all that pain for nothing. it will have been very damaging for mps. the question is whether the government
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learns from this. it is not the first time. think back to dominic cummings at barnard castle, it is not the first time with the government has missed read the public mood in making sure the rules are applied uniformly to everyone, it is not a perception of one set of rules for one group of people and another for someone else. what is important from the point of view of conservative mps is that the government learns from this and does not repeat this mistake. just government learns from this and does not repeat this mistake.— not repeat this mistake. just put aside the personal— not repeat this mistake. just put aside the personal tragedy - not repeat this mistake. just put aside the personal tragedy for i not repeat this mistake. just put - aside the personal tragedy for owen paterson and his family, the death of his wife, as we know, in terms of the fact it is a clear—cut case, in your view, that this was an egregious breach of the rules, and all these demands for appeals and witness statements, everyone i have spoken to who seems to know the process says he went through all the stages anyway. process says he went through all the stages anyway-— process says he went through all the stages anyway. basically, my answer is, es, it stages anyway. basically, my answer is. yes. it is — stages anyway. basically, my answer is. yes. it is a _ stages anyway. basically, my answer is, yes, it is a clear— stages anyway. basically, my answer is, yes, it is a clear breach _ stages anyway. basically, my answer is, yes, it is a clear breach of - stages anyway. basically, my answer is, yes, it is a clear breach of the - is, yes, it is a clear breach of the rules. the only point i would make
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slightly in his favour is, i understand the frustration mps feel at how long these investigations take. when i was an mp i was never investigated, i did not have a second job, investigated, i did not have a secondjob, i had investigated, i did not have a second job, i had nothing of this kind. sometimes opposition activist in the constituency would make a complaint against you and it would take months to resolve. it would be hanging over you for that period. 0n hanging over you for that period. on that narrow point, i have some sympathy. hopefully all of your listeners will have some of the four him in terms of what he and his family have been through. the people i am most cross with art for friends that the commission to do this, i do not think they were acting in his best interest. if you ask yourself the question what would have happened if 0wen paterson had accepted the verdict of the commissioner, the standards committee, taking the punishment, a 30 day suspension, he almost certainly —— you almost certainly would barely have reported the story, whereas doing what he did it ended up in a day of front pages,
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his picture all over, claiming this was a return to the tory sleaze. it has not been, even from a narrow sense, what was on his own best interests, i do not think he was well advised by his friends to go down this coast. as world leaders discuss climate action at the cop26 summit in glasgow, young people across the city arejoining protests calling for more to be done. the swedish activist greta thunberg will be there, and has called for more supporters tojoin in. well, we can cross over to kelvingrove in glasgow now — where the youth march is starting — and join our correspondent, catriona renton. how many are there? good morning. a treat how many are there? good morning. a great atmosphere _ how many are there? good morning. a great atmosphere and _ how many are there? good morning. a great atmosphere and more _ how many are there? good morning. a great atmosphere and more than - how many are there? good morning. a great atmosphere and more than two l great atmosphere and more than two hours until some of the marchers are set to do. people are already gathering. smashing atmosphere.
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people wanting to get their voices heard and i am joined by two young people from friday for cap! futures, the movement set up by greta thunberg herself. theo, what are you expecting to get out of today? —— fridays for futures. what do you want to get out of it?— fridays for futures. what do you want to get out of it? numbers are alwa s a want to get out of it? numbers are always a very _ want to get out of it? numbers are always a very hard _ want to get out of it? numbers are always a very hard thing _ want to get out of it? numbers are always a very hard thing to - always a very hard thing to determine, you don't know until everyone — determine, you don't know until everyone has shown up, how many people _ everyone has shown up, how many pebble are — everyone has shown up, how many people are going to show up. but we are expecting definitely more than 20,000 _ are expecting definitely more than 20,000 people here today. in terms of our— 20,000 people here today. in terms of our expectations, it's kind of what _ of our expectations, it's kind of what we — of our expectations, it's kind of what we have been doing for the last two and _ what we have been doing for the last two and a _ what we have been doing for the last two and a half years, now. we are 'ust two and a half years, now. we are just going — two and a half years, now. we are just going to — two and a half years, now. we are just going to be... we are here to hold _ just going to be... we are here to hold our— just going to be... we are here to hold our leaders to account. we are going _ hold our leaders to account. we are going to _ hold our leaders to account. we are going to be — hold our leaders to account. we are going to be doing a lot of shouting. because _ going to be doing a lot of shouting. because they clearly aren't listening at all. the cop26 here in glasgow— listening at all. the cop26 here in glasgow has, to put it mildly, been a bit of— glasgow has, to put it mildly, been a bit of a _ glasgow has, to put it mildly, been a bit of a shambles. we are here to really— a bit of a shambles. we are here to really highlight the need for climate action urgently. cole, what
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about yourself. _ climate action urgently. cole, what about yourself, what _ climate action urgently. cole, what about yourself, what do _ climate action urgently. cole, what about yourself, what do you - climate action urgently. cole, what about yourself, what do you think. about yourself, what do you think you will get out of it today? what you will get out of it today? what you are hearing from inside the centre, is that not your feelings of... do you think they are not getting the message that you need them to get? irlat getting the message that you need them to get?— them to get? not at all but our exoectations — them to get? not at all but our expectations were _ them to get? not at all but our expectations were very - them to get? not at all but our expectations were very low -- | expectations were very low —— already— expectations were very low —— already very _ expectations were very low —— already very low. _ expectations were very low —— already very low. the - expectations were very low —— already very low. the faith - expectations were very low —— already very low. the faith inl expectations were very low —— - already very low. the faith in young people _ already very low. the faith in young people and — already very low. the faith in young people and their _ already very low. the faith in young people and their leaders _ already very low. the faith in young people and their leaders is - already very low. the faith in young people and their leaders is very- people and their leaders is very low _ people and their leaders is very low we — people and their leaders is very low we want— people and their leaders is very low. we want to _ people and their leaders is very low. we want to emphasise - people and their leaders is very low. we want to emphasise the people and their leaders is very- low. we want to emphasise the broad coatition— low. we want to emphasise the broad coalition we _ low. we want to emphasise the broad coalition we are — low. we want to emphasise the broad coalition we are bringing _ low. we want to emphasise the broad coalition we are bringing together, i coalition we are bringing together, we have _ coalition we are bringing together, we have unions, _ coalition we are bringing together, we have unions, the _ coalition we are bringing together, we have unions, the strike - coalition we are bringing together, we have unions, the strike and - we have unions, the strike and cleansing — we have unions, the strike and cleansing workers. _ we have unions, the strike and cleansing workers. we - we have unions, the strike and cleansing workers. we want i we have unions, the strike and cleansing workers. we want toj we have unions, the strike and - cleansing workers. we want to bring the message — cleansing workers. we want to bring the message to _ cleansing workers. we want to bring the message to our— cleansing workers. we want to bring the message to our world _ cleansing workers. we want to bring the message to our world leaders. cleansing workers. we want to bring i the message to our world leaders and we are _ the message to our world leaders and we are convening _ the message to our world leaders and we are convening an— the message to our world leaders and we are convening an incredible - we are convening an incredible coalition— we are convening an incredible coalition of— we are convening an incredible coalition of different _ we are convening an incredible coalition of different groups i we are convening an incredible coalition of different groups of| coalition of different groups of different — coalition of different groups of different kinds _ coalition of different groups of different kinds of— coalition of different groups of different kinds of activists - coalition of different groups of different kinds of activists and j different kinds of activists and workers. _ different kinds of activists and workers. not _ different kinds of activists and workers, notjust— different kinds of activists and workers, not just youth - different kinds of activists and workers, not just youth here i different kinds of activists and - workers, not just youth here today. everyone _ workers, not just youth here today. everyone is — workers, not just youth here today. everyone is protesting _ workers, not just youth here today. everyone is protesting the - workers, not just youth here today. everyone is protesting the inactionl everyone is protesting the inaction on climate — everyone is protesting the inaction on climate. ., ., ., everyone is protesting the inaction on climate-— on climate. you are about 18 years old. this on climate. you are about 18 years old- this is — on climate. you are about 18 years old. this is about _ on climate. you are about 18 years old. this is about your _ on climate. you are about 18 years old. this is about your future. - on climate. you are about 18 years old. this is about your future. this old. this is about yourfuture. this is something that your generation has really ta ken is something that your generation has really taken on as being urgent, something that people, you know, inside that hall need to listen to. we have to do, no one else is going to do— we have to do, no one else is going to do it _ we have to do, no one else is going to do it we — we have to do, no one else is going to do it. we have _ we have to do, no one else is going to do it. we have stepped _ we have to do, no one else is going to do it. we have stepped up - we have to do, no one else is going i to do it. we have stepped up because somebody— to do it. we have stepped up because somebody absolutely— to do it. we have stepped up because somebody absolutely has _ to do it. we have stepped up because somebody absolutely has to. - to do it. we have stepped up because somebody absolutely has to. it - to do it. we have stepped up because somebody absolutely has to. it is - somebody absolutely has to. it is ourjob, — somebody absolutely has to. it is ourjob, our— somebody absolutely has to. it is ourjob, our duty, _ somebody absolutely has to. it is ourjob, our duty, someone - somebody absolutely has to. it is ourjob, our duty, someone has. somebody absolutely has to. it isi ourjob, our duty, someone has to
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save— ourjob, our duty, someone has to save the— ourjob, our duty, someone has to save the planet _ ourjob, our duty, someone has to save the planet. you _ ourjob, our duty, someone has to save the planet.— ourjob, our duty, someone has to save the planet. you have 'ust come from outside — save the planet. you have 'ust come from outside glasgow— save the planet. you have 'ust come from outside glasgow but _ save the planet. you have just come from outside glasgow but theo, - save the planet. you have just come from outside glasgow but theo, youj from outside glasgow but theo, you came from further afield for cop26, have you met lots of people around. you have come from ireland. i have you met lots of people around. you have come from ireland.- you have come from ireland. i think it is fair to — you have come from ireland. i think it is fair to say _ you have come from ireland. i think it is fair to say there _ you have come from ireland. i think it is fair to say there is _ you have come from ireland. i think it is fair to say there is people - it is fair to say there is people from — it is fair to say there is people from every— it is fair to say there is people from every single corner of the globe — from every single corner of the globe here, including young people will stop— globe here, including young people will stop i_ globe here, including young people will stop i was speaking yesterday with a _ will stop i was speaking yesterday with a russian activist, there are people _ with a russian activist, there are people from china, japan, singapore, latin america. south africa. it is harder— latin america. south africa. it is harder to — latin america. south africa. it is harder to find people countries where — harder to find people countries where there aren't people and where there _ where there aren't people and where there are _ where there aren't people and where there are. but there is a really important _ there are. but there is a really important point to highlight, which is that— important point to highlight, which is that a _ important point to highlight, which is that a lot of the people from the most _ is that a lot of the people from the most affected peoples and areas, that is— most affected peoples and areas, that is a _ most affected peoples and areas, that is a term that we in fridays for futures _ that is a term that we in fridays for futures use to highlight those that feel— for futures use to highlight those that feel the effects of climate crisis — that feel the effects of climate crisis first, that are already feeling _ crisis first, that are already feeling it— crisis first, that are already feeling it right now, and these people — feeling it right now, and these people, for the most part, have been struggling _ people, for the most part, have been struggling to have their voices heard — struggling to have their voices heard. they have been ignored for an extremely— heard. they have been ignored for an extremely long time on the world stage _ extremely long time on the world stage for— extremely long time on the world stage. forthem, the extremely long time on the world stage. for them, the climate crisis isn't new — stage. for them, the climate crisis isn't new. it's been there for a long _ isn't new. it's been there for a longtime _ isn't new. it's been there for a long time-— isn't new. it's been there for a long time. isn't new. it's been there for a lona time. ., ., ., long time. theo and cole, good luck with today. —
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long time. theo and cole, good luck with today. we _ long time. theo and cole, good luck with today, we hope _ long time. theo and cole, good luck with today, we hope to _ long time. theo and cole, good luck with today, we hope to hear- long time. theo and cole, good luck with today, we hope to hear a - long time. theo and cole, good luck with today, we hope to hear a very l with today, we hope to hear a very strong and loud voice from young people across the world that are here. all eyes, of course, on glasgow. we are expecting a big march and expecting it, from what we are hearing a very good—humoured. a lot of police around but today this will hopefully have quite a carnival atmosphere. will hopefully have quite a carnival atmosphere-— atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. atmosphere. thank you very much indeed- we _ atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. we will _ atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. we will be _ atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. we will be back _ atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. we will be back up - atmosphere. thank you very much indeed. we will be back up to - indeed. we will be back up to scotland, of course, throughout the day for this young people's day, as it is being described, at cop26. now it's time for a look at the weather. scarves, raincoats in scotland, pretty chilly all round, matt? it was. warmer in glasgow than in parts of england at the moment. temperatures last night close to —5 in 0xfordshire, making it the coldest morning of the autumn so far. plenty of sunshine across england but the cloud is increasing for the north and west. most places staying dry. channel islands, kent, sussex and parts of sussex sunniest for longest but they could be some splashes of rain, chiefly western scotland and the odd one further
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south but a dry day for south—west wales and south—west england. temperatures up in the north and west compared to the past few days. still cool in the south—east but tonight, with that cloud in place, stiffening south—westerly wind and lots of rain across western scotland, we will see temperatures clear of frost. much milder night and the weekend. tomorrow, outbreaks of rain in parts of scotland in the morning and northern ireland and it will be in northern and western part of event and wales. driest in the south of england and east anglia. even though it is breezy, it will feel milder. it will turn windier on saturday night. more on that later. back to you. lots of blue on that map. sport and we have a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. good morning. talking about yorkshire county cricket club. the resignations at yorkshire county cricket have started at the top, with the chairman roger hutton, the first to go, as the fall out from the rascism crisis that is engulfing the club continues. he's urged other board members to follow his lead,
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to what he says, "make way, for a new path, for the club "he loves so much." in a strongly worded, resignation statement, hutton, adds, he's experienced a culture there that refuses to accept change or challenge. he speaks of his regret with the county, who's headingley home is in leeds, over their handling of the racism allegations. harrogate spring water became the latest company to withdraw their sponsorship, over the treatment of azeem rafiq, while nike will no longer be their kit supplier. yorkshire previously said it would take no disciplinary action, against its employees, players or executives, but now with the raft of resignations expected, the senior correspondent from crickinfo told us earlier this is a chance for the board to become more diverse. look, at the moment, all we're doing is knocking down. we have to rebuild. the question that naga asked is a personal one, really. we have to make sure the new yorkshire is better. i'm absolutely sure we can do that. today is a big day and there have to be new voices at that club. well, in a separate development,
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the former england captain michael vaughan says he was named in yorkshire's azeem rafiq report but "totally denies any allegation of racism". vaughan says, the report alledges, he told a group of asian players, including rafiq, "too many of you lot, "we need to do something about it." but vaughan says he "completely and categorically denies" saying that. earlier, we spoke to former england player mark ramprakash. azeem rafiq has also said, publicly, that whilst he has a people involved, it's not about those individuals. it's more about trying to get systemic change in a club like yorkshire, which change has proven to be very difficult. and the club, i think, proven to be very difficult. and the club, ithink, has proven to be very difficult. and the club, i think, has failed to evolve quick enough in the way that society is changing stop and our attitudes towards race and racism. antonio conte began his reign at tottenham with a nervy 3—2 victory over dutch side vitesse in the europa conference league.
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son heung min opened the scoring early on in what turned into a frantic match with five goals and three red cards, as spurs were reduced to ten men while vitesse finished with just nine players. the victory leaves spurs second in group g with plenty for conte to work with. i don't like when, um, this type of game — this crazy game. i call... i call them a crazy game. i want a stable team. i want, when there is the possibility to kill your opponent, you must kill. but, for sure, my players have shown me great commitment. leicester came from behind to draw 1—1 with spartak moscow. they equalised from ryan bertrand's corner. daniel amartey got on the end of a flick—on. but jamie vardy later missed a penalty with 15 minutes remaining and that result means they're third
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in group c. west ham have qualified for the knockout stages of the europa league. they came from behind to lead 2—1 at racing genk thanks to two goals from said benrahma. it finished 2—2. tthe belgian side drew level when tomas soucek headed into his own net. but the hammers are still top of group h. rangers needed substitute ianis hagi to secure them a precious point as they came from behind to draw 1—1 against brondby in denmark. the result leaves the scottish champions third in group a behind sparta prague and they face the czech side next. with a crucial victory over hungarian side ferencvaros. liel abada sealed the win with celtic�*s third to put them just a point behind second place in group g. bbc understands an agreement is close with eddie howe to succeed steve bruce as newcastle utd manager and it's hoped he will be in charge for saturdays match at brighton. for saturday's match at brighton.
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the magpies have been managerless since steve bruce parted company with the club just over two weeks ago. unai emery opted not to leave villareall and the former bournemouth manager is now favourite to take the job at st james's park. watch this space later on. that's all the sport for now. back to you. mike, good to see you, thank you very much indeed. more on the cop26 summit, now. as world leaders discuss climate action at the cop 26 summit in glasgow, young people across the city arejoining protests calling for more to be done. joining me is izzy warren, a climate activist in london who will be attending her local climate strike today and graham frost, head teacher at the robert ferguson primary school in carlisle. he's also the cumbria branch secretary for the national association of headteachers. welcome to you both. izzy, you will be going out on strike today, is there something you have done for a long time and how many of your
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friends arejoining you? long time and how many of your friends are joining you? that is this. i friends are 'oining you? that is this. . , friends are 'oining you? that is this. ., , ., this. i have been 'oining the climate strike _ this. i have beenjoining the climate strike since - this. i have beenjoining the climate strike since they - this. i have been joining the | climate strike since they first started here in the uk in february and 2019. we obviously took a break for covid but it's been two years of doing this. and it's sad that young people are still having to walk out of school to get politicians to listen to us. i've got a lot of friends who are coming today, which is a really nice to see. it's nice to see that we haven't lost that momentum and people are still interested and still want to come out and put pressure on politicians in this way. what has the response been from your teachers? my teachers are what i would describe as club quietly supportive —— as quietly supportive of that i have missed quite a lot of school but they recognise why i am doing this is important. and that i have the right intention behind this and i am doing this because this is something that is genuinely impactful. and it is the only way that i have right now to make my voice heard. graham, i
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don't think— to make my voice heard. graham, i don't think you _ to make my voice heard. graham, i don't think you are _ to make my voice heard. graham, i don't think you are quietly - don't think you are quietly supportive, you are quite robustly supported, aren't you?— supported, aren't you? yeah, i think, if you — supported, aren't you? yeah, i think, if you recognise - supported, aren't you? yeah, i think, if you recognise that - supported, aren't you? yeah, i think, if you recognise that the strength— think, if you recognise that the strength of feeling that young people — strength of feeling that young people have, they are correctly taught— people have, they are correctly taught about the climate science, the geographical impact of the looming crisis that we are all so aware _ looming crisis that we are all so aware of— looming crisis that we are all so aware of now. it is inevitable that young _ aware of now. it is inevitable that young people want to speak out. there _ young people want to speak out. there is— young people want to speak out. there is a — young people want to speak out. there is a growing recognition amongst _ there is a growing recognition amongst school leaders that we have to... amongst school leaders that we have tom we _ amongst school leaders that we have to... we have to make that possible for them _ to... we have to make that possible for them in — to... we have to make that possible for them in a — to... we have to make that possible for them in a way that is safe and that is— for them in a way that is safe and that is in— for them in a way that is safe and that is in keeping with all the things— that is in keeping with all the things we have to teach them. how often are your _ things we have to teach them. firm often are your students striking? is it every friday? ida. often are your students striking? is it every friday?— it every friday? no. i am a head teacher of— it every friday? no. i am a head teacher of a _ it every friday? no. i am a head teacher of a primary _ it every friday? no. i am a head teacher of a primary school. - it every friday? no. i am a head teacher of a primary school. butj it every friday? no. i am a head l teacher of a primary school. but i should _ teacher of a primary school. but i should say— teacher of a primary school. but i should say that my 17—year—old daughter, _ should say that my 17—year—old daughter, who attends a secondary school _ daughter, who attends a secondary school in _ daughter, who attends a secondary school in the sixth form, she is today— school in the sixth form, she is today in— school in the sixth form, she is today in glasgow at the cop26 rally
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march _ today in glasgow at the cop26 rally march with greta thunberg and other activists _ march with greta thunberg and other activists. she is there with the authorisation of her school. but i would _ authorisation of her school. but i would say — authorisation of her school. but i would say very strongly is that what we should _ would say very strongly is that what we should be doing is accepting that schools— we should be doing is accepting that schools now maybe have more duty and responsibility to facilitate this subject — responsibility to facilitate this subject. because young people have such a _ subject. because young people have such a stake in the future and the effects _ such a stake in the future and the effects of— such a stake in the future and the effects of climate change, i think it is beholden to school leaders. after— it is beholden to school leaders. after all. — it is beholden to school leaders. afterall, it it is beholden to school leaders. after all, it is universally considered that education is the way to build _ considered that education is the way to build for— considered that education is the way to build for a better future. when we know— to build for a better future. when we know that future is absolutely the set _ we know that future is absolutely the set with this one big issue, which — the set with this one big issue, which is — the set with this one big issue, which is so _ the set with this one big issue, which is so complex, we simply have to pave _ which is so complex, we simply have to pave the _ which is so complex, we simply have to pave the way for young people to speak— to pave the way for young people to speak out _ to pave the way for young people to speak out and express their views. but more — speak out and express their views. but more so — speak out and express their views. but more so we need to encourage them — but more so we need to encourage them to— but more so we need to encourage them to expect action and not just words _ them to expect action and not just words from — them to expect action and not just words from leaders in business and
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politics _ words from leaders in business and olitics. , ., . ., politics. izzy, how much of your formal education _ politics. izzy, how much of your formal education is _ politics. izzy, how much of your formal education is spent - politics. izzy, how much of your. formal education is spent studying climate change? trier? formal education is spent studying climate change?— climate change? very little. and i think that is _ climate change? very little. and i think that is shocking. _ climate change? very little. and i think that is shocking. and - climate change? very little. and i think that is shocking. and a - think that is shocking. and a serious problem with the national curriculum in the uk educational system. i have studied climate change in depth. 0nce system. i have studied climate change in depth. once in my entire 17 years now it was in gcse geography. and not only was it still not nearly enough detail about what we need to be learning about, it was in an optional subject. they made us learn about the positives of climate change, as well! there is a huge problem in the way that climate education happens in this country. they need to present a balanced argument about everything. particularly anything that is even vaguely political. it means you are taking what is a scientific fact that the climate crisis is here and it is happening and you're trying to turnit it is happening and you're trying to turn it into a two sides of the argument a story, which is not helpful. and that is not what
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education should be doing. surely, ou do education should be doing. surely, you do need _ education should be doing. surely, you do need to _ education should be doing. surely, you do need to listen _ education should be doing. surely, you do need to listen to _ education should be doing. surely, you do need to listen to the... - you do need to listen to the... defence, don't you, of some companies? if they are involved with fossil fuels, companies? if they are involved with fossilfuels, and companies? if they are involved with fossil fuels, and what they are trying to do to alleviate the damage caused by bull er fossil fuels trying to do to alleviate the damage caused by bull erfossilfuels in terms of the pragmatic supply of energy —— caused by fossil fuels. until renewables can take over. i think we do. there also needs to be a healthy amount of cynicism, when learning about that. a lot of the information that possible companies are putting out isjust like information that possible companies are putting out is just like green greenwashing. but a practical level, you need to know what these things that have led to it and the different solutions and also being taught actually, climate change is good because we will be able to grow oranges in the uk!— good because we will be able to grow oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how man of oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your— oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your kids. _ oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your kids, your— oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your kids, your pupils - oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your kids, your pupils up - oranges in the uk! yeah. graham, how many of your kids, your pupils up to i many of your kids, your pupils up to the age of 11 are passionate about this subject and if there was a climber, a demand, to go on strike, they would need your permission,
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they would need your permission, they would need your permission, they would just go and do it, i presume, how would you react to that? �* , ., ., , presume, how would you react to that? �*, ., , , presume, how would you react to that? �*, ., , that? it's not quite as simple as that. we have _ that? it's not quite as simple as that. we have a _ that? it's not quite as simple as that. we have a duty _ that? it's not quite as simple as that. we have a duty to - that? it's not quite as simple as that. we have a duty to keep i that. we have a duty to keep children— that. we have a duty to keep children safe. when i have had a group _ children safe. when i have had a group of— children safe. when i have had a group of children attend the local events _ group of children attend the local events with banners, they have done so with _ events with banners, they have done so with all— events with banners, they have done so with all of the usual checks on heatth— so with all of the usual checks on health and — so with all of the usual checks on health and safety, risk assessments and so _ health and safety, risk assessments and so on _ and so and health and safety, risk assessments and so �* . health and safety, risk assessments and so ~ ., , health and safety, risk assessments and so . ., , ., , and so and are the parents on side b and and so and are the parents on side by and large? _ and so and are the parents on side by and large? yes, _ and so and are the parents on side by and large? yes, that _ and so and are the parents on side by and large? yes, that particularl by and large? yes, that particular instance, by and large? yes, that particular instance. it _ by and large? yes, that particular instance, it was _ by and large? yes, that particular instance, it was open _ by and large? yes, that particular instance, it was open to - by and large? yes, that particular instance, it was open to parents l by and large? yes, that particularl instance, it was open to parents to -ive instance, it was open to parents to give their— instance, it was open to parents to give their consent to the children that wanted to go. quite often, they are enlightening parents on this subject— are enlightening parents on this subject and they are very supportive of the _ subject and they are very supportive of the children who want to speak out. of the children who want to speak out but— of the children who want to speak out but i— of the children who want to speak out. but i think it's also worth pointing — out. but i think it's also worth pointing out that the students here are engaging in activism in a number of ways _ are engaging in activism in a number of ways. when they are presented with the _ of ways. when they are presented with the issue, say, of palm oil or plastic— with the issue, say, of palm oil or plastic packaging, they are then given— plastic packaging, they are then given an — plastic packaging, they are then given an opportunity to write to supermarkets, to elected members locally— supermarkets, to elected members locally or— supermarkets, to elected members locally or nationally to make the
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case _ locally or nationally to make the case for— locally or nationally to make the case for why there should be significant change. i think the thing — significant change. i think the thing to— significant change. i think the thing to remember is that what you keep hearing from young people is a sense _ keep hearing from young people is a sense that _ keep hearing from young people is a sense that theyjust feel there is a great _ sense that theyjust feel there is a great deal— sense that theyjust feel there is a great deal of inertia. you need to understand, my understanding of that, _ understand, my understanding of that, is— understand, my understanding of that, is that young people who are adaptable, you only have to look at how young — adaptable, you only have to look at how young people are adapting to the restrictions of covid to see how adaptable young people are and can be. adaptable young people are and can be and _ adaptable young people are and can be. and how resilient they can be. however. — be. and how resilient they can be. however, they want to see action on a systemwide change and they have the collective thinking to see how it could _ the collective thinking to see how it could be — the collective thinking to see how it could be done. meanwhile, those of us _ it could be done. meanwhile, those of us who— it could be done. meanwhile, those of us who are a bit more set in our ways, _ of us who are a bit more set in our ways, the — of us who are a bit more set in our ways, the older generations, are the ones that— ways, the older generations, are the ones that seem to be shoving inertia — ones that seem to be shoving inertia. because we have got into comfortable patterns of living. all i’i l ht, comfortable patterns of living. all film, | comfortable patterns of living. right, i am comfortable patterns of living. fiii right, i am sorry, we will have to leave it there, we will have to move on but great to have you on. thank you both. it's been one of the most anticipated comebacks in pop. after 40 years, abba are finally back with a new studio album.
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in their only british tv interview, benny andersson and bjorn ulvaeus from the group chatted to the bbc�*s entertainment correspondent colin paterson in stockholm about how the record eventually got made. stockholm is built on 14 islands, including skeppsholmen, where abba recorded voyage, their first album in 40 years. so, this is where a lot of the album was made, then, this is really abba hq? in that house. that's the studio, since ten years back. everything is done in there. the idea of making a whole album was not part of the original plan. abba had only gone back into the studio to record a couple of new tracks for next year's live show, which will feature digital
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recreations of the band in concert, looking like they did in 1979. we had two songs. we enjoyed those. we thought they were really good, so we said, "maybe we should do a couple more". and we did. and then we said, "maybe we should do a few more!" so we have an album. bjorn, he's sounding very laid back. have you got any more nerves? i mean, this is a big deal, 40 years between albums! yes! it's, emotionally, very difficult to grasp, actually, that we did what we did. it's dawning on me now that it's actually happening, you know? we don't need to prove anything here. i don't think we're taking a risk, because if people think that we were better 40 years ago, fine. and the ladies were so happy, as were we, of course, but the ladies, mm, they can still do it! and they're also happy that they don't have to do this! yeah, why don't they? where are they?
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because we told them. we talked about it, we said, "if we do this, what's going to happen?" and they both said, "we don't want to do this". and we said, "we can take care of it". we're not as pretty as they are, but we do the work. # you're not the man- you should have been...# the album revisits old themes, including the end of a marriage. abba probably have the most famous divorces in pop, outside of fleetwood mac. does it get discussed still, were there big apologies to make this happen? i never talked about my divorce with anyone! apart from frida, at the time. no. # i've been reloaded, yeah.# and, as for the live show, featuring the so—called abbatars, it will have its premier next may in a purpose—built venue in london. the use of motion capture meant that abba spent five weeks performing
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the songs in a tv studio and sacrifices had to be made. i love the story. you had to shave the beards for the abbatar show. just how traumatic was that for you two? oh, no, again, just a decision. if it has to be done it has to be done. till the end, i tried! "is there no other way we can do this? "do i really, really have to?" oh, i hated it! oh, i looked weird! and i... i'll never shave it off again, that's for sure. but after waiting 40 years for abba to get back together, the reunion could be very short. i've said that's it, you know. i don't want to do another abba album. but, i mean, i'm not alone in this. the four of us... yeah. if they twist my arm, i might change my mind, but i think this is it... oh, good to know! good to know! where do you stand on it? i never say never, but i agree with benny, i think that was our goodbye.
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i think you could twist his arm, bjorn. the ladies might be able to do that. it'll take them to do it, actually! yeah, i think so. joining me now is a abba tribute band called angels made up of lallie as agnetta, nikki as frida, graham as bjorn. sadly we're missing alex this morning, aka benny, as he couldn't get the time off work. welcome to you all. the album hasn't been reviewed particularly well. i think the guardian said no thank you for the music and gave it two stars. what has your reaction been, nikki? i like the album, they have picked up where they left off. i think it is
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great. where they left off. i think it is treat, , ., , , where they left off. i think it is treat. , ., , , ., where they left off. i think it is treat. , .,, , ., , great. presumably for you, this means you _ great. presumably for you, this means you get _ great. presumably for you, this means you get even _ great. presumably for you, this means you get even more - great. presumably for you, this - means you get even more bookings because the legend goes on? absolutely. abba is the gift that keeps _ absolutely. abba is the gift that keeps on giving. any time a new movie _ keeps on giving. any time a new movie or— keeps on giving. any time a new movie or anything comes out we get new gigs~ _ movie or anything comes out we get new gigs~ a— movie or anything comes out we get new gigs. a year and a half, we are so grateful— new gigs. a year and a half, we are so grateful for the work. is new gigs. a year and a half, we are so grateful for the work. is it so grateful for the work. is it breakin: so grateful for the work. is it breaking through _ so grateful for the work. is it breaking through all - so grateful for the work. is it breaking through all the generations, do you think? nikki, when it comes to sort of teenagers now, are they still getting up and dancing at weddings?— dancing at weddings? actually, i feel like at _ dancing at weddings? actually, i feel like at the _ dancing at weddings? actually, i feel like at the moment, - dancing at weddings? actually, i feel like at the moment, we - dancing at weddings? actually, i | feel like at the moment, we have done some venues recently where we have just had 19—25 age group and they are going crazy. they love the music. they are our best audiences at the moment.— music. they are our best audiences at the moment. really? graham, when ou are at the moment. really? graham, when you are playing — at the moment. really? graham, when you are playing the _ at the moment. really? graham, when you are playing the music, _ at the moment. really? graham, when you are playing the music, it _ at the moment. really? graham, when you are playing the music, it is - you are playing the music, it is prudently composed, isn't it? there
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is something unique about abba. is it difficult to play as a tribute band? i it difficult to play as a tribute band? ., �* ~' , band? i don't think it is particularly _ band? i don't think it is particularly difficult - band? i don't think it is particularly difficult but band? i don't think it is - particularly difficult but you almost _ particularly difficult but you almost need _ particularly difficult but you almost need to _ particularly difficult but you almost need to get - particularly difficult but you almost need to get into - particularly difficult but you j almost need to get into the particularly difficult but you - almost need to get into the mind of bjorn _ almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and _ almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and as— almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and as they _ almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and as they wrote _ almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and as they wrote the - almost need to get into the mind of bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i almost need to get into the mind of| bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i had never— bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i had never played _ bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i had never played abba _ bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i had never played abba music- bjorn and as they wrote the songs. i had never played abba music music before _ had never played abba music music before before — had never played abba music music before before i— had never played abba music music before before i played _ had never played abba music music before before i played the _ had never played abba music music before before i played the band. - had never played abba music music before before i played the band. it i before before i played the band. it was creatively— before before i played the band. it was creatively interesting. - before before i played the band. it was creatively interesting. they. before before i played the band. itl was creatively interesting. they are -ood was creatively interesting. they are good fun _ was creatively interesting. they are good fun to — was creatively interesting. they are good fun to play _ was creatively interesting. they are good fun to play. well— was creatively interesting. they are good fun to play. well constructedl good fun to play. well constructed and they— good fun to play. well constructed and they are — good fun to play. well constructed and they are great _ good fun to play. well constructed and they are great pop— good fun to play. well constructed and they are great pop songs, - good fun to play. well constructed and they are great pop songs, as. and they are great pop songs, as welt _ and they are great pop songs, as well. ~ , ., , ., �* and they are great pop songs, as well. . , ., , ., �* ., well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are — well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are the _ well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are the same _ well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are the same sort _ well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are the same sort of - well. when you were younger, i'm not sure if we are the same sort of age, i sure if we are the same sort of age, some people thought it was quite uncool to like abba, have you always been fans? . .. uncool to like abba, have you always been fans? ., ,, ., ~ �* �* ~ been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid- — been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid- i — been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid. i had _ been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid. i had all— been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid. i had all the _ been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid. i had all the albums - been fans? yeah, i like to abba when i was a kid. i had all the albums up i i was a kid. i had all the albums up until— i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the _ i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the early— i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the early 80s. _ i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the early 80s. i— i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the early 80s. i knew- i was a kid. i had all the albums up until the early 80s. i knew the - until the early 80s. i knew the songs — until the early 80s. i knew the songs i— until the early 80s. i knew the songs i still— until the early 80s. i knew the songs. i still know— until the early 80s. i knew the songs. i still know the - until the early 80s. i knew the songs. i still know the songs, i until the early 80s. i knew the| songs. i still know the songs, i still sing — songs. i still know the songs, i still sing the _ songs. i still know the songs, i still sing the songs. _ songs. i still know the songs, i still sing the songs. i- songs. i still know the songs, i. still sing the songs. i remember being _ still sing the songs. i remember being the — still sing the songs. i remember being the uncool— still sing the songs. i remember being the uncool kid _ still sing the songs. i remember being the uncool kid at - still sing the songs. i remember being the uncool kid at school. i still sing the songs. i rememberl being the uncool kid at school. it has come — being the uncool kid at school. it has come full _ being the uncool kid at school. it has come full circle. _ being the uncool kid at school. it has come full circle. it _ being the uncool kid at school. it has come full circle. it is- being the uncool kid at school. it has come full circle. it is cool- has come full circle. it is cool again — has come full circle. it is cool again abba _ has come full circle. it is cool again abba is _ has come full circle. it is cool again. abba is an— has come full circle. it is cool again. abba is an icon - has come full circle. it is cool again. abba is an icon and i has come full circle. it is cool again. abba is an icon and it| has come full circle. it is cool. again. abba is an icon and it is great _ again. abba is an icon and it is great to— again. abba is an icon and it is great to be _ again. abba is an icon and it is great to be part _ again. abba is an icon and it is great to be part of _ again. abba is an icon and it is great to be part of this - again. abba is an icon and it is great to be part of this band. l again. abba is an icon and it is great to be part of this band. when it comes to — great to be part of this band. when it comes to the _ great to be part of this band. when it comes to the mood _ great to be part of this band. when
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it comes to the mood of _ great to be part of this band. when it comes to the mood of the - great to be part of this band.“ it comes to the mood of the songs, as well, they are great for dancing, but there is a lot of poignancy and sadness, as well. again, with this new album void, they're concentrating too much on marital break—up, which is still haunting —— new album voyage. break-up, which is still haunting -- new album voyage.— new album voyage. there is lots of melancholy — new album voyage. there is lots of melancholy and _ new album voyage. there is lots of melancholy and some _ new album voyage. there is lots of melancholy and some of _ new album voyage. there is lots of melancholy and some of those - new album voyage. there is lots of i melancholy and some of those songs, especially— melancholy and some of those songs, especially woman i can be. that is the standout track for me. not necessarily a disco floor filler, not one — necessarily a disco floor filler, not one of— necessarily a disco floor filler, not one of those bangers that we know _ not one of those bangers that we know and — not one of those bangers that we know and love. but it brought a tear to my _ know and love. but it brought a tear to my eye — know and love. but it brought a tear to my eye it — know and love. but it brought a tear to my eye. it was almost like a country— to my eye. it was almost like a country style song, really. yeah. nikki what _ country style song, really. yeah. nikki what is — country style song, really. yeah. nikki what is the _ country style song, really. yeah. nikki what is the sum _ country style song, really. yeah. nikki what is the sum you - country style song, really. yeah. nikki what is the sum you get i country style song, really. yeah. i nikki what is the sum you get asked to sing, what is the one they always want? . ,, to sing, what is the one they always want?_ we've - to sing, what is the one they always want?_ we've got i to sing, what is the one they always| want?_ we've got 20 want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds. want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds- you — want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds. you have _ want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds. you have your— want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds. you have your guitar. - want? dancing queen! we've got 20 seconds. you have your guitar. can l seconds. you have your guitar. can you do anything for us?— seconds. you have your guitar. can you do anything for us? yeah. go on. just -la you do anything for us? yeah. go on. just play us — you do anything for us? yeah. go on. just play us out- _ you do anything for us? yeah. go on. just play us out- i— you do anything for us? yeah. go on. just play us out. i know _ you do anything for us? yeah. go on.
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just play us out. i know we _ you do anything for us? jeé'i go on. just play us out. i know we haven't got benny but he can hum along from work. # thank you for the music # thank you for the music # the songs i'm singing # the songs i'm singing # thanks for all thejoy # the songs i'm singing # thanks for all the joy they're bringing # can live without it? # can live without it? # i ask in all honesty # i ask in all honesty # what would life be # what would life be # without a song or a dance # without a song or a dance # what are we? # what are we? # so, i say thank you for the music # so, i say thank you for the music # for giving it to me. # absolutely brilliant, the whole gallery behind me has beenjoining in. gallery behind me has been 'oining in. , . ~' , gallery behind me has been 'oining in. good luck with everything, guys. thanks forjoining _ in. good luck with everything, guys. thanks forjoining us _ in. good luck with everything, guys. thanks forjoining us on _ in. good luck with everything, guys. thanks forjoining us on bbc - in. good luck with everything, guys. thanks forjoining us on bbc news. | thanks forjoining us on bbc news. after that, some weather. thank you very much, tim, good morning. a chilly start so far and plenty of
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sunshine in england and wales is clouding over to the rest of the day to stop some sunshine and the best is towards the channel islands, the far south—east of england but the cloud in the north and west it will thicken up sufficiently for outbreaks of rain. western scotland, maybe northern ireland. temperatures up maybe northern ireland. temperatures up for northern and western areas compared to yesterday and chile towards the south and east. milder air tonight. south—westerly winds developing and it will bring lots of cloud, not as cold as last night or the night before. frost free into the night before. frost free into the start of the weekend. heavy rain across the highlands and islands. rain at times for northern ireland but the wettest of the weather spreading across scotland and it should brighten up but turns wet across northern england, wales and the north midlands. try it in the south and east. milder tomorrow but windier. lively wind through saturday night. more details later.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines. the chairman of yorkshire county cricket club resigns over the racism row at the club, as the board prepare to hold an emergency meeting. roger hutton apologises to azeem rafiq and criticises the culture at the club, saying it refused to change — and he's accused the ecb of declining to help. former england captain michael vaughan says he was named in yorkshire's report on rafiq — but "totally denies any "allegation of racism". we'll have the latest from headingley. a senior cabinet minister admits the government made a mistake over its handling of the 0wen paterson case — amid criticism of the prime minister. we made a mistake.
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