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good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire — here are your headlines. the government's set to announce that all front line nhs staff in england will have to be fully vaccinated against covid—19 by next spring. it is good news in terms of being able to ensure that we protect staff, patients and visitors from nhs members of staff having infection. if you work in the nhs, what's your reaction? let me know on twitter, instagram or by e—mail. rescued — after two days trapped underground an injured caver is brought to safety. he's said to be in good spirits. a ten—year—old boy dies after he was attacked by a dog in south wales. this couple say nhs fertility
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treatment in england discriminates against them because they're gay. we'll talk to megan andwhitney bacon—evans in the next half hour about the landmark legal case they're bringing against their local fertility service. a new study finds it's notjust how long you sleep for but when you go to bed that has an impact on your health. we'll tell when scientists think you should go to bed and talk to a sleep expert. coming up in the next hour — eight years after they first drew millions of us to the tower of london, ceramic poppies have found a new permanent home in trafford in manchester. —— at the imperial war museum in manchester.
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the government is to compel front line nhs staff in england to be fully vaccinated against coronavirus. an official announcement is expected later today, and workers will have until spring to be double jabbed. unions argue it should not be forced. staff working in care homes were instructed earlier this year to become fully vaccinated — their deadline is on thursday. here's our health editor, hugh pym. compulsory vaccination against covid for staff in adult social care is already being implemented in england. there's a deadline later this week for care workers to comply, apart from those deemed to be exempt. it's understood that, later today, the government will announce that the policy will be extended to staff in patient—facing roles in the nhs in england. they'll be required as a condition of deployment in those posts to be double—jabbed by next spring, unless there are medical reasons for exemption. it's understood that, later today, the government will announce that the policy will be extended
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to staff in patient—facing roles the deadline has been set to allow for the gap between first and second doses. around 90% of nhs staff in england have already been vaccinated against covid. the health secretary, sajid javid, said last month that he was leaning towards compulsoryjabs for nhs staff and the main issue was patient safety. asa as a doctor, i take it for granted that i had to be vaccinated against hepatitis b so i do noppert my patients at risk of an incurable illness which could cause cirrhosis of the liver, i had been required to do that the entire 36 years i have been a doctor, it is not entirely new. health leaders say they see the benefits of the policy, though some have expressed reservations, arguing that there is a risk some staff might quit at a time of concerns about staffing gaps. there are still somewhere i think between 80000 and 90,000 nhs staff who have not been vaccinated and it is really important we work hard with them over the next few months before the deadline to try to get as
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many as possible vaccinated so we do not face a cliff edge of effectively members of staff leaving. the health union unison has argued that the key to convincing hesitant staff should be persuasion, not force. decisions on the issue are devolved and it's possible that the other uk nations will take a different route to england. hugh pym, bbc news. let's discuss this with dr carter singh from the royal college of gps. he isa gp in he is a gp in nottinghamshire. thank you for talking to us, what do you make of this announcement? i think oinion is make of this announcement? i think opinion is divided _ make of this announcement? i think opinion is divided but _ make of this announcement? i think opinion is divided but i _ make of this announcement? i think opinion is divided but i think- make of this announcement? i think opinion is divided but i think it - opinion is divided but i think it needs to be done very sensitively and i think it needs to be based upon the results and outcomes of the impact assessment and consultation, but what we must not forget is the majority of nhs staff have already had either one or two doses of the covid vaccination and the lion's share has been delivered by front
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line general practitioners. you are ri . ht, line general practitioners. you are right. 90% — line general practitioners. you are right, 90% have — line general practitioners. you are right, 90% have been _ line general practitioners. you are right, 90% have been double - line general practitioners. you are l right, 9096 have been double jabbed right, 90% have been double jabbed but there is still 80 to 90,000 front line nhs workers who have not had their first dose. to front line nhs workers who have not had theirfirst dose. to be front line nhs workers who have not had their first dose. to be clear, are you backing this mandatory vaccination programme? i are you backing this mandatory vaccination programme? i think it would be a _ vaccination programme? i think it would be a positive _ vaccination programme? i think it would be a positive step - vaccination programme? i think it would be a positive step to - vaccination programme? i think it l would be a positive step to increase vaccination, especially forfront line workers, it is not only for the benefit of front line staff and to protect their member families but also to protect patients, and as you mentioned in your vt, the ideal approach would be persuasion and to try to explore the reasons why this is not insignificant minority of staff are not vaccinated. some say that making it necessary mandating it is a heavy—handed approach, but if you look at the social care sector, mandating the vaccinations in that sector led to an increase in
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uptake for vaccines, but we need to weigh that up against a potential exodus of staff who are already feeling low in resilience due to the pressures and challenges resulting from the pandemic. we pressures and challenges resulting from the pandemic.— pressures and challenges resulting from the pandemic. we know that care staff workers — from the pandemic. we know that care staff workers have _ from the pandemic. we know that care staff workers have left _ from the pandemic. we know that care staff workers have left the _ from the pandemic. we know that care staff workers have left the sector - staff workers have left the sector as a result of mandatory vaccinations. there almost 100,000 shortages in the nhs, you can't really thought to lose anyone? we can't, we really thought to lose anyone? - can't, we already face a workforce and workload crisis and that is why we need to be very sensitive and empathetic in pr and communication surrounding this topic because the last thing we want to do is to alienate, scapegoat and almost denigrate those staff members questioning whether or not the vaccine is right for them. since the beginning of the pandemic
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(inaudible). | (inaudible). iam (inaudible). i am sorry, we got most of what you had to say that the zoom froze, as everybody can see. sorry about that. police say a ten—year—old boy has died after being attacked by a dog in south wales. 0ur correspondent tomos morgan joins us. he is in caerphilly. what you know about what happened yesterday? we about what happened yesterday? - spoke to some of the residents that live here in penyrheol on the outskirts of caerphilly this morning, clearly very upset at the news that a ten—year—old living on this street here died tragically yesterday after being attacked by a dog. when paramedics arrived the boy was pronounced dead at the scene. police are continuing their investigation, gwent police, into what happened. we expect an update on the investigation within the next
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hour or two so we'll be giving you that as soon as we get it. we have heard from some of the neighbours here this morning who had suggested, these are unconfirmed reports, that these are unconfirmed reports, that the boy was not a resident of the household where he died, he had gone with a friend yesterday after school, but that is still to be verified at the moment. what we will look to find out from police is further detail on the incident. residents on the street suggested happened inside the house after school had come to an end at about 3:55pm yesterday. as sooner we get that statement we will be bringing it to you later this morning.- it to you later this morning. thank ou, it to you later this morning. thank you. tomos _ it to you later this morning. thank you, tomos morgan _ it to you later this morning. thank you, tomos morgan in _ it to you later this morning. thank you, tomos morgan in carefully. l the anger both outside and inside parliament over the government's attempt to change the rules on mps' conduct shows no sign of dying down. the prime minister refused to apologise yesterday, and didn't turn up to an emergency
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debate in the commons. and today, there are fresh claims about mps' second jobs and the eye watering sums being earned by some. let's speak to our chief political correspondent, adam fleming. where does it go from here? this debate, where does it go from here? this debate. and _ where does it go from here? ti 3 debate, and actual debate where does it go from here? t1151 debate, and actual debate in parliament yesterday, and a general debate among society at large, has gone from an individual case of an mp with outside earnings, 0wen paterson, to the systems by which mps are disciplined and failed found to have broken parliamentary rules to have broken parliamentary rules to now a broader debate on second jobs for mps at all and a bit more evidence has been provided by the newspapers today who have gone through the registers of members interests and fund former attorney general geoffrey cox, who you might rememberfrom lots of general geoffrey cox, who you might remember from lots of the general geoffrey cox, who you might rememberfrom lots of the brexit drummers, has been earning hundreds of thousands of pounds outside parliament as a lawyer and when parliament as a lawyer and when parliament was working remotely he was working remotely from the british virgin islands, helping the government with an inquiry there. he
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has not broken any rules and we have not heard from mr cox himself, also geoffrey, i should say, so we will have to wait and see. in terms of the debate in parliament yesterday, now the issue will be in the hands of the standards committee who were drawing up a new code of conduct for mps anyway before this blew up and their plan is to publish that before christmas, that is when the debate will be mated. borisjohnson was not at the debate yesterday, it was left to cabinet office minister steve bower clay, and he did not quite apologise but he said the government regretted what they'd —— cabinet office minister steve barclay. that 0ffice minister steve barclay. that message was repeated by deputy prime minister dominic raab. i was message was repeated by deputy prime minister dominic raab.— minister dominic raab. i was in the house of commons _
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minister dominic raab. i was in the house of commons yesterday - minister dominic raab. i was in the house of commons yesterday and i minister dominic raab. i was in the l house of commons yesterday and we listen _ house of commons yesterday and we listen to— house of commons yesterday and we listen to the views of all of our backbenchers, it is a team effort, and the _ backbenchers, it is a team effort, and the right thing to do is listen and the right thing to do is listen and make — and the right thing to do is listen and make decisions and that is why we have _ and make decisions and that is why we have taken a very swift decision, this was_ we have taken a very swift decision, this was a _ we have taken a very swift decision, this was a mistake, we regret it, we move _ this was a mistake, we regret it, we move 0h _ this was a mistake, we regret it, we move oh~ the — this was a mistake, we regret it, we move on. the issue raised on all sides— move on. the issue raised on all sides of— move on. the issue raised on all sides of the _ move on. the issue raised on all sides of the house of commons about having _ sides of the house of commons about having a _ sides of the house of commons about having a sustainable, robust system but also _ having a sustainable, robust system but also one with due process, as in any walk_ but also one with due process, as in any walk of— but also one with due process, as in any walk of life, including the bbc or if you _ any walk of life, including the bbc or if you are a doctor or teacher, i think— or if you are a doctor or teacher, i think that — or if you are a doctor or teacher, i think that is — or if you are a doctor or teacher, i think that is the right thing to debate — think that is the right thing to debate and hopefully we can work with a _ debate and hopefully we can work with a cross—party process to get the right — with a cross—party process to get the right outcome and results. the reason given _ the right outcome and results. iie: reason given by number the right outcome and results. iis: reason given by number ten for why the prime minister could not be in parliament for the debate yesterday was that he was visiting a hospital in northumberland instead. the pictures of that visit show the staff in the hospital were wearing masks all the time, the prime minister was only wearing a mask some of the time, this is how
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dominic raab explained that. mr; dominic raab explained that. my understanding is the prime minister followed _ understanding is the prime minister followed all the guidance given to him from — followed all the guidance given to him from the moment he was at the hospital— him from the moment he was at the hospital and in the different settings he visited, and that is right — settings he visited, and that is right in— settings he visited, and that is riuht. , ., settings he visited, and that is riuht. . ., , right. in terms of criticisms elsewhere. _ right. in terms of criticisms elsewhere, yesterday - right. in terms of criticisms elsewhere, yesterday in - right. in terms of criticisms | elsewhere, yesterday in the right. in terms of criticisms - elsewhere, yesterday in the debate about standards lots of them were in the conservative benches, former chief whip harper, who used to be responsible for party discipline policy at the prime minister should have been bayern should have been apologising for
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rivers. it comes after mps voted to accept a government amendment imposing tougher restrictions on the practice. ministers hope it will end a row between the commons and the lords over the issue. but some campaigners say the new rules don't go far enough. the government's chief scientific adviser has warned that climate change is a far bigger — and potentially deadlier — problem than coronavirus. sir patrick vallance believes combatting global warming will require a combination of technology and behavioural change. of course, coronavirus has been devastating. it has affected people write them across the globe. —— affected people right the way
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across the globe. but it will settle down and it will go back to being a seasonal disease of some sort, most likely. this is something that's getting worse over a very long period and without concerted, long—term action, it will continue to get worse. a new met office study warns the number of people affected by extreme heat stress could increase nearly 15—fold with a two celsius rise in global temperatures. that would mean one billion people living in places with potentially fatally high temperatures and humidity levels. rolls—royce has secured the funding it needs to push forward with a project to develop a new generation of small nuclear plants. a quarter of a billion pounds of private investment will be added to £210 million of government money. this will allow the enginering firm to work on designs for the reactors, which it hopes will be supplying low carbon energy to millions of homes
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by the end of the decade. the headlines on bbc news... the government's set to announce that all front—line nhs staff in england will have to be fully vaccinated against covid—19 by next spring. rescued after two days trapped underground — an injured caver is brought to safety. he's said to be in good spirits. police launch an investigation after a ten—year—old boy dies after he was attacked by a dog in south wales. travis scott is facing multiple lawsuits after at least eight people were killed and hundreds injured in a crush at his texas festival astroworld. 0ne injured concertgoer has accused scott and surprise performer drake of inciting the crowd, and is seeking $1 million in damages. neither have commented on the lawsuits. scott has said he is working to help
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the families of the victims — the youngest was just ia. mark lobel reports. sobbing. too much to bear after losing his brother in the concert crush. you go to a concert to have fun, you don't go to a concert to die. he died saving his fianc e. she was getting hurt, hit left and right. he saved her. she was admitted to the hospital. it cost him his life. 21—year—old axel acosta was another of the eight people who died that night. the computer scientist travelled alone to attend his first music festival. now, leaving behind a family, devastated. he wanted to provide for his family. he really cares about, he was the first grandkid, he was the oldest one.
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he always take care of his other cousins and nieces. the crush began around a quarter past nine during travis scott's headline performance in texas on friday night. panic spread fast as thousands were injured. for some of those attending, this two—day outdoor event tragically would be their last. the rapper drake was also on stage at the time of the tragedy and has issued this statement. "my heart is broken for the families and friends of those who lost their lives and for anyone who is suffering. i will continue to pray for all of them and will be of service in any way i can." ijust wanted to send out prayers to the ones that was lost last night. travis scott says he is working to help the families of the victims. but several festival goers are suing him, drake and the promoters for damages.
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all of whom have not yet commented on the lawsuits. attention is turning to what happened to turn this concert into a crime scene. lawyers are already poring over footage as families seekjustice. i ask you, does that look safe? does that look organised, well—run? the way the concert was set up, planned, organised and the way things were happening, were handled, once there was a problem, it boggles the mind. alongside multiple civil lawsuits is a police investigation. it's emerged that safety concerns were raised by houston's police chief moments before the concert with travis scott. amidst the hurt, though, is an expressed hope amongst the families of the victims that these daths will not be in vain by helping improve how concerts like these are managed around the world. mark lobel, bbc news.
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a couple are launching a landmark legal test case against how the nhs offer fertility treatment in england, arguing it discriminates against lgbt+ families. 34—year—old megan bacon—evans and her wife whitney, who's 33, claim their local clinical commissioning group in frimley is penalising them financially because they are gay rather than straight. we can talk to megan and whitney bacon—evans now. hello, thank you for talking to us. thank you for having us. truths; hello, thank you for talking to us. thank you for having us.— hello, thank you for talking to us. thank you for having us. why do you sa this thank you for having us. why do you say this policy _ thank you for having us. why do you say this policy discriminates - say this policy discriminates against you both? ultimately it comes down — against you both? ultimately it comes down to _ against you both? ultimately it comes down to the _ against you both? ultimately it comes down to the fact - against you both? ultimately it comes down to the fact there l against you both? ultimately it| comes down to the fact there is against you both? ultimately it. comes down to the fact there is an unfair— comes down to the fact there is an unfair financial burden being put on the lgbtq+ community relating to the eligibility— the lgbtq+ community relating to the eligibility criteria placed on us as opposed — eligibility criteria placed on us as opposed to heterosexual couples in
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order— opposed to heterosexual couples in order to _ opposed to heterosexual couples in order to meet the same requirements where _ order to meet the same requirements where you _ order to meet the same requirements where you can receive free nhs funding — where you can receive free nhs funding of ivf depending on what your iocai— funding of ivf depending on what your local clinical commissioning group _ your local clinical commissioning group gives you, that is different too, but — group gives you, that is different too, but there is a clear difference in the _ too, but there is a clear difference in the fact— too, but there is a clear difference in the fact that for a heterosexual couple _ in the fact that for a heterosexual couple the — in the fact that for a heterosexual couple the criteria is two years of unprotected sex, no evidence and no cost: _ unprotected sex, no evidence and no cost, foreign — unprotected sex, no evidence and no cost, foreign same—sex female couple, — cost, foreign same—sex female couple, in _ cost, foreign same—sex female couple, in our case it is 12 rounds of artificial — couple, in our case it is 12 rounds of artificial insemination which could — of artificial insemination which could cost almost £50,000. which is an extraordinary _ could cost almost £50,000. which is an extraordinary amount _ could cost almost £50,000. which is an extraordinary amount of _ could cost almost £50,000. which is an extraordinary amount of money. l an extraordinary amount of money. and you say clearly that is discrimination?— and you say clearly that is discrimination? , ., , discrimination? yes, ultimately we would like to _ discrimination? yes, ultimately we would like to just _ discrimination? yes, ultimately we would like to just have _ discrimination? yes, ultimately we would like to just have an - discrimination? yes, ultimately we would like to just have an equal. would like to just have an equal claim, essentially, that is what we are fighting for, just to have the same rights and opportunities as a heterosexual couple. in same rights and opportunities as a heterosexual couple.— same rights and opportunities as a heterosexual couple. in the eyes of the law we — heterosexual couple. in the eyes of the law we can _ heterosexual couple. in the eyes of the law we can equally _ heterosexual couple. in the eyes of the law we can equally be - heterosexual couple. in the eyes of the law we can equally be married. the law we can equally be married but it— the law we can equally be married but it does— the law we can equally be married but it does not go as far as being seen _ but it does not go as far as being seen as— but it does not go as far as being seen as equal in terms of creating a
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famiiv _ seen as equal in terms of creating a famil . ~ ., ., ., ., , family. what would an equal playing field look like? — family. what would an equal playing field look like? i— family. what would an equal playing field look like? i think— family. what would an equal playing field look like? i think it _ family. what would an equal playing field look like? i think it would - family. what would an equal playing field look like? i think it would be i field look like? i think it would be recognised _ field look like? i think it would be recognised that _ field look like? i think it would be recognised that no _ field look like? i think it would be recognised that no matter - field look like? i think it would be recognised that no matter how. field look like? i think it would be i recognised that no matter how much we try. _ recognised that no matter how much we try, unfortunately we cannot create _ we try, unfortunately we cannot create a — we try, unfortunately we cannot create a family together, so even though— create a family together, so even though it — create a family together, so even though it might not be medical, it is de _ though it might not be medical, it is de facto — though it might not be medical, it is de facto infertility and so essentially in the first instance it would _ essentially in the first instance it would be — essentially in the first instance it would be potentially artificial insemination being provided by the nhs in _ insemination being provided by the nhs in orderto insemination being provided by the nhs in order to meet the same level of requirements has heterosexual couples _ of requirements has heterosexual couples before needing funding for ivf, couples before needing funding for ivf. that _ couples before needing funding for ivf, that would be the ultimate solution — ivf, that would be the ultimate solution. but right now we are just asking _ solution. but right now we are just asking for— solution. but right now we are just asking for recognition of this. so that asking for recognition of this. sc that i asking for recognition of this. sr that i understand accurately, you are saying you would require artificial insemination on the nhs, and if that does not lead to pregnancy, then you would be eligible for ivf on the nhs? i think
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that would be _ eligible for ivf on the nhs? i think that would be the _ eligible for ivf on the nhs? i think that would be the ultimate - eligible for ivf on the nhs? i think that would be the ultimate goal, i eligible for ivf on the nhs? i thinkj that would be the ultimate goal, at the moment it is placing that barrier— the moment it is placing that barrier on— the moment it is placing that barrier on the lgbtq+ community where _ barrier on the lgbtq+ community where many people cannot simply afford _ where many people cannot simply afford to _ where many people cannot simply afford to meet that criteria. it is essentially _ afford to meet that criteria. it is essentially a _ afford to meet that criteria. it is essentially a gay _ afford to meet that criteria. it is essentially a gay tax. _ afford to meet that criteria. it 1 essentially a gay tax. it is a financial burden. we have heard from so many people that they had spent a fortune and maybe had three or four rounds and they may have had unsuccessful pregnancies and they do not have the means to go on, we have heard stories from many of our followers, this issue does notjust affect us, it affects the whole community. affect us, it affects the whole community-— affect us, it affects the whole community. affect us, it affects the whole communi . , ~ ., i. community. even if they know you have an infertility _ community. even if they know you have an infertility issue, _ community. even if they know you have an infertility issue, for - have an infertility issue, for example. _ have an infertility issue, for example, they will often still need you to _ example, they will often still need you to self fund the required amount of artificial _ you to self fund the required amount of artificial insemination. understood. what would you say to those who might say, listening to you, you are not infertile, this is not a fertility issue? it is
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you, you are not infertile, this is not a fertility issue?— not a fertility issue? it is still a fertility issue, _ not a fertility issue? it is still a fertility issue, technically. - not a fertility issue? it is still a fertility issue, technically. it i not a fertility issue? it is still a fertility issue, technically. it is| fertility issue, technically. it is also _ fertility issue, technically. it is also about the fundamental right that everyone deserves to have a family— that everyone deserves to have a family and — that everyone deserves to have a family and the provision has been provided — family and the provision has been provided for one section of society but not _ provided for one section of society but not another. i provided for one section of society but not another.— but not another. i know you have considered _ but not another. i know you have considered a _ but not another. i know you have considered a sperm _ but not another. i know you have considered a sperm donor- but not another. i know you have considered a sperm donor from l but not another. i know you have considered a sperm donor from a sperm bank, why did you decide against that? we sperm bank, why did you decide against that?— sperm bank, why did you decide auainst that? 1 . ., against that? we decided we wanted to have our sperm _ against that? we decided we wanted to have our sperm from _ against that? we decided we wanted to have our sperm from a _ against that? we decided we wanted to have our sperm from a sperm - against that? we decided we wanted | to have our sperm from a sperm bank and we went ahead with it in denmark, the reason being that we wanted to make sure the sperm was medically screened and also from where we got our particular span, they gave us such peace of mind in explaining we had a really good donor in place. yes explaining we had a really good donor in place.— explaining we had a really good donor in lace. , ., ., ,. ,, donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact... donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact- -- we _ donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact... we always _ donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact... we always knew _
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donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact... we always knew - donor in place. yes ago we discussed the fact... we always knew what| the fact... we always knew what is happening — the fact. .. we always knew what is happening now— the fact... we always knew what is happening now is _ the fact... we always knew what is happening now is making - the fact... we always knew what is happening now is making like - the fact... we always knew what is happening now is making like a i is happening now is making like a lot of— is happening now is making like a lot of lgbtq+ people to essentially find strangers. it puts women in very— find strangers. it puts women in very vulnerable and dangerous situations. that will not be a contract _ situations. that will not be a contract drawn up, it will not stand up contract drawn up, it will not stand up in _ contract drawn up, it will not stand up in court — contract drawn up, it will not stand up in court so they could come after the rights _ up in court so they could come after the rights of— up in court so they could come after the rights of the child. how up in court so they could come after the rights of the child.— the rights of the child. how do you feel about the _ the rights of the child. how do you feel about the fact _ the rights of the child. how do you feel about the fact that _ the rights of the child. how do you feel about the fact that there is . feel about the fact that there is what appears to be discrimination against you? it is what appears to be discrimination against you?— against you? it is heartbreaking, reall . against you? it is heartbreaking, reallv- we _ against you? it is heartbreaking, really. we are _ against you? it is heartbreaking, really. we are in _ against you? it is heartbreaking, really. we are in 2021 _ against you? it is heartbreaking, really. we are in 2021 now - against you? it is heartbreaking, really. we are in 2021 now and i | really. we are in 2021 now and i can't believe it is still happening. as megan said, gay marriages recognised in law, so why is it not carrying over into the fertility sector? it baffles me, it really surprises me. we sector? it baffles me, it really surprises me.— sector? it baffles me, it really surprises me. sector? it baffles me, it really surrises me. ~ ., , , ., ., surprises me. we honestly had no idea, we started _ surprises me. we honestly had no idea, we started our _ surprises me. we honestly had no idea, we started our 30 _ surprises me. we honestly had no idea, we started our 30 luthi - idea, we started our 30 luthi journey— idea, we started our 30 luthi
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journey in _ idea, we started our 30 luthi journey in 2020 and due to the lack of information we did not know how we will _ of information we did not know how we will create a family on what bailack— we will create a family on what ballack like for us —— we started our fertilitv _ ballack like for us —— we started our fertility journey. ballack like for us —— we started our fertilityjourney. we hope to do it in home — our fertilityjourney. we hope to do it in home insemination that they will changed in 2005 in sperm not being _ will changed in 2005 in sperm not being shipped to the home from sperm banks, _ being shipped to the home from sperm banks, they— being shipped to the home from sperm banks, they can only go to licensed premises — banks, they can only go to licensed premises. we were devastated, that was the _ premises. we were devastated, that was the way we wanted to make our family. _ was the way we wanted to make our family. it _ was the way we wanted to make our family. it is— was the way we wanted to make our family, it is being taken away from us and _ family, it is being taken away from us and we — family, it is being taken away from us and we are being forced into a magical— us and we are being forced into a magical setting. us and we are being forced into a magical setting-— us and we are being forced into a maaical settina. , ., . magical setting. remind us how much ou had magical setting. remind us how much you had spent — magical setting. remind us how much you had spent so _ magical setting. remind us how much you had spent so far _ magical setting. remind us how much you had spent so far and _ magical setting. remind us how much you had spent so far and how- magical setting. remind us how much you had spent so far and how many i you had spent so far and how many cycles of treatment you have paid for? ~ . , , cycles of treatment you have paid for? 1 ., ,, ., j~:: 11:11: cycles of treatment you have paid for?. ., ,, ., f~ii :::::: for? we have spent about £80,000 so far, the for? we have spent about £80,000 so far. the majority _ for? we have spent about £80,000 so far. the majority is _ for? we have spent about £80,000 so far, the majority is towards _ for? we have spent about £80,000 so far, the majority is towards the - far, the majority is towards the cost _ far, the majority is towards the cost of— far, the majority is towards the cost of sperm. —— we have spent around _ cost of sperm. —— we have spent around £8000 so far. that was for five vials, — around £8000 so far. that was for
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five vials, five rounds of artificial _ five vials, five rounds of artificial insemination, we have not -ot artificial insemination, we have not got artificial insemination yet due to medical reasons. you got artificial insemination yet due to medical reasons.— got artificial insemination yet due to medical reasons. you would have to medical reasons. you would have to -a for to medical reasons. you would have to pay for another _ to medical reasons. you would have to pay for another seven _ to medical reasons. you would have to pay for another seven rounds - to medical reasons. you would have to pay for another seven rounds of l to pay for another seven rounds of treatment before you eligible for ivf on the nhs? brute treatment before you eligible for ivf on the nhs?— treatment before you eligible for ivf on the nhs? 1 ., ., ., ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for 12 ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for12 runs in — ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for 12 runs in total. _ ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for 12 runs in total. you _ ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for 12 runs in total. you have _ ivf on the nhs? we would have to pay for 12 runs in total. you have to - for 12 runs in total. you have to buy the — for 12 runs in total. you have to buy the sperm. | for 12 runs in total. you have to buy the sperm-— buy the sperm. i think it will be around £46,000. _ buy the sperm. i think it will be around £46,000. just - buy the sperm. i think it will be around £46,000. just to - buy the sperm. i think it will be around £46,000. just to get i buy the sperm. i think it will be | around £46,000. just to get on buy the sperm. i think it will be - around £46,000. just to get on that level playing field. xfour around £46,000. just to get on that level playing field.— level playing field. your local clinical commissioning - level playing field. your local clinical commissioning group| level playing field. your local i clinical commissioning group is level playing field. your local - clinical commissioning group is the nhs in frimley and they say the fertility services we provide are based on nice guidance. we cannot comment on individual cases but will fully engage with any legal proceedings. if you lose, what would it mean for your desire to have a family? it mean for your desire to have a famil ? ~ ., it mean for your desire to have a famil ? 1 ., ., , , it mean for your desire to have a famil?1 ., , ., _ family? we would hopefully obviously still no family? we would hopefully obviously still go ahead. — family? we would hopefully obviously still go ahead, but _ family? we would hopefully obviously still go ahead, but this _ family? we would hopefully obviously still go ahead, but this is _ family? we would hopefully obviously still go ahead, but this is more - still go ahead, but this is more about— still go ahead, but this is more about hoping to create change and equality— about hoping to create change and equality for the lgbt community and
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families— equality for the lgbt community and families to _ equality for the lgbt community and families to come, we would be devastated because change needs to happen— devastated because change needs to happen and we have had hundreds of messages _ happen and we have had hundreds of messages over the last few days from so many— messages over the last few days from so many people supporting us and they simply cannot create and fund their family, they simply cannot create and fund theirfamily, so they simply cannot create and fund their family, so we they simply cannot create and fund theirfamily, so we hope they simply cannot create and fund their family, so we hope we can set a precedent — their family, so we hope we can set a precedent. we their family, so we hope we can set a precedent-— a precedent. we will absolutely follow the judicial _ a precedent. we will absolutely follow the judicial review, - a precedent. we will absolutely| follow the judicial review, being back, i understand, follow the judicial review, being back, iunderstand, by follow the judicial review, being back, i understand, by the british pregnancy advisory service and stonewall uk. how big a family which you like? stonewall uk. how big a family which ou like? 1. , stonewall uk. how big a family which ou like? ., , ., stonewall uk. how big a family which ou like? 1. , ., ~' stonewall uk. how big a family which ou like? ., , ., ~ ., you like? ideally we would like two children, you like? ideally we would like two children. we _ you like? ideally we would like two children, we have _ you like? ideally we would like two children, we have talked _ you like? ideally we would like two children, we have talked about - you like? ideally we would like two children, we have talked about it i children, we have talked about it since we have been together, we have been together 15 years, ten years ago we picked out the future names and the names still stand, we will have to little children with the same sperm donor, so they will be related. 1. ~ same sperm donor, so they will be related. ., ,, , ., same sperm donor, so they will be related. 1. ~' , ., , same sperm donor, so they will be related. ., ,, i. , . same sperm donor, so they will be related. 1. ~ ,, , . ., related. thank you very much for talkin: to related. thank you very much for talking to us- _ related. thank you very much for talking to us. megan _ related. thank you very much for talking to us. megan and - related. thank you very much for| talking to us. megan and whitney bacon evans, and we will follow that
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judicial review. a man is being assessed in hospital after being injured in a cave complex in south wales. the caver spent more than 50 hours trapped underground after he fell at the site in the brecon beacons. a man is being assessed in hospital after being injured in a cave more than 200 people from around the uk worked in shifts to bring him to safety. 0ur wales correspondent, hywel griffith, sent this report from the scene. mission accomplished. after more than two days of painstaking, exhausting work, relief all round. together, these volunteers carried the casualty through an underground assault course of boulders, streams and ledges, the longest stretcher carry ever by a british cave rescue team. it is absolutely amazing. the cooperation, the professionalism. everybody dealt with it. the controllers, down to the grunts on the sharp end, it was just amazing. it's the biggest rescue any of us have done, i hope will ever do.
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the casualty is an experienced caver in his 40s. on saturday, he fell and suffered multiple injuries, but could talk to his rescuers throughout. when you consider how long he has been in the cave, how long he has been in the stretcher, he is doing very well indeed. so he's been talking to the medics along the way and they have been having a conversation, but we are waiting for them to come out, now. this is what draws enthusiasts here. a sculpted subterranean world, in places almost 300 metres deep. it attracts cavers from across the uk. after 50 hours underground and the efforts of 250 volunteers, the casualty is now safe and on their way to hospital. bringing this rescue operation to a successful conclusion. for the volunteers, days of endeavour and years of training have tonight brought their reward.
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let's talk to two men involved in the rescue efforts, paul taylor from the gloucester cave rescue group and steve thomas, from the south and mid wales cave rescue team. well done and thank you for talking to us when it is chucking down with rain! ., , , , , rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning- — rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning. i— rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning. i guess _ rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning. i guess that - rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning. i guess that is - rain! lovely! it is pretty wet here this morning. i guess that is the | this morning. i guess that is the least of your _ this morning. i guess that is the least of your worries _ this morning. i guess that is the least of your worries given - this morning. i guess that is the least of your worries given what| this morning. i guess that is the - least of your worries given what you have been doing in the last couple of days. tell us about the painstaking rescue operation. well, it started with — painstaking rescue operation. well, it started with the _ painstaking rescue operation. eii it started with the controllers who had to figure out what the problem was. and then work out who to assign and wear it to assign. paul was part of that side of things. we started by trying to find out what exactly the injuries were. put a lot of
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people on standby. and then, once it was clear, the extent of the injuries, it very quickly escalated into a very large call—out with people, teams being called in from all over the country. which is quite an unusual occurrence. certainly on an unusual occurrence. certainly on a scale that this was. but it was pretty flawless. people responded very quickly. a lot of selfless people out there.— very quickly. a lot of selfless people out there. very quickly. a lot of selfless --eole out there. ,, ., ., people out there. steve, what would ou sa ? people out there. steve, what would you say? i'm — people out there. steve, what would you say? i'm sorry? _ people out there. steve, what would you say? i'm sorry? say— people out there. steve, what would you say? i'm sorry? say again? - you say? i'm sorry? say again? steve, you say? i'm sorry? say again? steve. what — you say? i'm sorry? say again? steve, what would _ you say? i'm sorry? say again? steve, what would you - you say? i'm sorry? say again? steve, what would you say - you say? i'm sorry? say again? | steve, what would you say about you say? i'm sorry? say again? - steve, what would you say about the operation, paul, i'm so sorry. i do apologise. paul is in the red jacket. apologise. paul is in the red 'acket. . apologise. paul is in the red 'acket. , ., ., , jacket. yes, no worries. it was absolutely _ jacket. yes, no worries. it was absolutely brilliant _ jacket. yes, no worries. it was absolutely brilliant response i jacket. yes, no worries. it was i absolutely brilliant response over the days — absolutely brilliant response over the days that it took. massive team
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effort _ the days that it took. massive team effort by _ the days that it took. massive team effort by everybody and not one person — effort by everybody and not one person complained. the guys underground had to put up with some pretty— underground had to put up with some pretty hard _ underground had to put up with some pretty hard conditions. lying in the water, _ pretty hard conditions. lying in the water, to— pretty hard conditions. lying in the water, to get the stretcher over various — water, to get the stretcher over various sections, no complaints from anybody. _ various sections, no complaints from anybody, came out of the cave, rested. — anybody, came out of the cave, rested, when the request was, can you go— rested, when the request was, can you go back— rested, when the request was, can you go back and, yes, we will go back— you go back and, yes, we will go back in— you go back and, yes, we will go back in so— you go back and, yes, we will go back in so it _ you go back and, yes, we will go back in so it was brilliant. how is the man. — back in so it was brilliant. how is the man. can — back in so it was brilliant. how is the man, can you _ back in so it was brilliant. how is the man, can you tell _ back in so it was brilliant. how is the man, can you tell us - back in so it was brilliant. how is the man, can you tell us about i back in so it was brilliant. how is i the man, can you tell us about the nature of his injuries? irate the man, can you tell us about the nature of his injuries?— nature of his in'uries? we haven't had an nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates _ nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates as _ nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates as far— nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates as far as - nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates as far as i - nature of his injuries? we haven't had any updates as far as i am . had any updates as far as i am aware. we know he is ok. but he is a strong character, we always knew that. we have heard that he is ok, he is going to be all right, eventually.— he is going to be all right, eventuall . ., , , , , ., eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered, eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered. you — eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered, you know? _ eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered, you know? he _ eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered, you know? he was - eventually. he was pretty bashed and battered, you know? he was an - battered, you know? he was an experienced _ battered, you know? he was an experienced caber, _ battered, you know? he was an experienced caber, he - battered, you know? he was an experienced caber, he is - battered, you know? he was an experienced caber, he is an - experienced caber, he is an experienced caber, he is an experienced and fit cave, we are
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told. i have seen some messages saying this gentleman should pay for the 250 people who rescued him and so on and so forth. what do you decide to the people who suggest that? , ., , ., �* that? there is no bill. i don't tuite that? there is no bill. i don't quite understand _ that? there is no bill. i don't quite understand that - that? there is no bill. i don't quite understand that sort i that? there is no bill. i don't quite understand that sort of comment. it is a team of people who are willing to give up their time and expertise and we do, regularly. there is never a charge, we are there to do it, it is a specialist thing and we are good at it but we do it in our own time. he thing and we are good at it but we do it in our own time.— do it in our own time. he is a fellow caver _ do it in our own time. he is a fellow caver and _ do it in our own time. he is a fellow caver and we - do it in our own time. he is a fellow caver and we do - do it in our own time. he is a | fellow caver and we do rescue because — fellow caver and we do rescue because god forbid, it might be the day that— because god forbid, it might be the day that somebody needs to come and -et day that somebody needs to come and get us _ day that somebody needs to come and get us that _ day that somebody needs to come and get us. that is true. that is why we do it _ get us. that is true. that is why we do it |_ get us. that is true. that is why we do it. ~ �* get us. that is true. that is why we do it. ~' �* , ., , do it. i think i'm right in saying that members _ do it. i think i'm right in saying that members of— do it. i think i'm right in saying that members of your - do it. i think i'm right in saying that members of your team - do it. i think i'm right in saying i that members of your team were involved in rescuing the boys from the cave in thailand, was that right? that's correct, yes. how does this operation compared to that?
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completely different, it is in the welsh mountains, for a start! so much easier to coordinate something like this because we are all on the same land mass. it was literally a case of putting out the call and people jumping case of putting out the call and peoplejumping on cars. itlat case of putting out the call and people jumping on cars. not flying halfway around — people jumping on cars. not flying halfway around the _ people jumping on cars. not flying halfway around the world. - people jumping on cars. not flying halfway around the world. it - people jumping on cars. not flying halfway around the world. it was i halfway around the world. it was manageable. — halfway around the world. it was manageable, managed - halfway around the world. it was manageable, managed by- halfway around the world. it was manageable, managed by the i halfway around the world. it was i manageable, managed by the team throughout. irate manageable, managed by the team throu:hout. 1 1. manageable, managed by the team throu:hout. 1 ., ., manageable, managed by the team throu:hout. 1 . . ., throughout. we heard that the man that ou throughout. we heard that the man that you have _ throughout. we heard that the man that you have rescued _ throughout. we heard that the man that you have rescued after - throughout. we heard that the man that you have rescued after 53 i throughout. we heard that the man | that you have rescued after 53 hours is in good spirits. what does that mean? what did he say to you, what was his demeanour? he mean? what did he say to you, what was his demeanour?— was his demeanour? he was clearly ha - to was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be — was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be out _ was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be out of— was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be out of the _ was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be out of the cave, - was his demeanour? he was clearly happy to be out of the cave, who i happy to be out of the cave, who wouldn't be? it's hard being strapped into a stretcher. for any length of time. but for a couple of days, in a cave, in those temperatures, you know, it is something you want to be over. absolutely. paul, you are obviously in demand! . �*
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absolutely. paul, you are obviously in demand! , �* , absolutely. paul, you are obviously in demand!— in demand! yes, i'm sorry about that. he in demand! yes, i'm sorry about that- he was _ in demand! yes, i'm sorry about that. he was talking _ in demand! yes, i'm sorry about that. he was talking to - in demand! yes, i'm sorry about that. he was talking to his i that. he was talking to his rescuers _ that. he was talking to his rescuers. the whole time. you know? when _ rescuers. the whole time. you know? when he _ rescuers. the whole time. you know? when he needed to respond, he spoke to people _ when he needed to respond, he spoke to people. and that was great, the whole _ to people. and that was great, the whole time. to people. and that was great, the whole time-— to people. and that was great, the whole time. thank you both, thank ou so whole time. thank you both, thank you so much- _ whole time. thank you both, thank you so much. well _ whole time. thank you both, thank you so much. well done. _ whole time. thank you both, thank you so much. well done. thank- whole time. thank you both, thank| you so much. well done. thank you very much. — you so much. well done. thank you very much. we _ you so much. well done. thank you very much, we appreciate _ you so much. well done. thank you very much, we appreciate it. - very much, we appreciate it. honestly. _ very much, we appreciate it. honestly, you are amazing, thank you. and take care. there you are! i do apologise! sport and for a full round up from the bbc sport centre, here's kat downes. good morning. yorkshire county cricket club are facing a new allegation of racism — this time from a former academy player, who says he suffered discrimination from a coach when he was just 16 years old. the county say they will investigate the latest claim and they say they want anyone who's suffered discrimination or abuse to speak up. this all comes as the new chairman of the club lord patel apologised to former player azeem rafiq, admitting the club's investigation into his racism allegations had been badly handled. also calling for people to speak up is a new body
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called the independent commission for equity in cricket, which has launched a call for evidence. its chair is cindy butts. we will be absolutely unflinching in holding a mirror up and saying this is what it feels like for people involved whether they are coaches, players, former players, fans, volunteers, you name it, we will say it and we will not be afraid to make recommendations if the evidence warrants it. including, dare i say, on the ecb, so we are notjust looking at cricket, we are looking at the ecb as a body and institution. eddie howe is the new boss at newcastle united — his appointment was confirmed almost three weeks after the departure of steve bruce. the former bournemouth manager takes over with newcastle second from bottom in the premier league, and without a win all season. bruce left by mutual consent shortly after the saudi arabian—backed takeover of the club. co—owner amanda staveley described howe as a "passionate" and "dynamic" coach.
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here's what some newcastle fans think. i think it will be tricky. even if they do go down in the championship, he's got what it takes to get us back up. i he's got what it takes to get us back u -. ~' , ., he's got what it takes to get us back u. ~ i. ., he's got what it takes to get us back u -. ~ i. ., ., he's got what it takes to get us backu. ~ ., ., back up. i think you will do a good 'ob. he is back up. i think you will do a good job- he is an _ back up. i think you will do a good job. he is an attacking _ back up. i think you will do a good job. he is an attacking manager, i job. he is an attacking manager, hopefully— job. he is an attacking manager, hopefully sure of the defence and we will see _ hopefully sure of the defence and we will see good changes. he�*s hopefully sure of the defence and we will see good changes.— will see good changes. he's got experience _ will see good changes. he's got experience and _ will see good changes. he's got experience and i _ will see good changes. he's got experience and i think - will see good changes. he's got experience and i think that i will see good changes. he's got experience and i think that is i will see good changes. he's got i experience and i think that is what we need _ experience and i think that is what we need right— experience and i think that is what we need right now, _ experience and i think that is what we need right now, we _ experience and i think that is what we need right now, we don't - experience and i think that is what we need right now, we don't want| we need right now, we don't want someone — we need right now, we don't want someone who— we need right now, we don't want someone who hasn't _ we need right now, we don't want someone who hasn't had - we need right now, we don't want someone who hasn't had a - we need right now, we don't want i someone who hasn't had a relegation battle _ someone who hasn't had a relegation battle. �* . someone who hasn't had a relegation battle. �* , ., someone who hasn't had a relegation battle. 3 ., ., someone who hasn't had a relegation battle. �*, ., ., ., , ., battle. he's got to do better than his predecessor. _ battle. he's got to do better than his predecessor. intelligent i battle. he's got to do better than his predecessor. intelligent man, that is what _ his predecessor. intelligent man, that is what we _ his predecessor. intelligent man, that is what we need, _ his predecessor. intelligent man, that is what we need, modern i that is what we need, modern manager1 _ chelsea can go top of their group with a win against swiss side servette in the women's champions league tonight. chelsea travel to geneva to face a side which is yet to score a goal in the competition and boss emma hayes says her team is looking forward to the game. you cannot control outcomes but would be can control is the type of performance and i know our team really enjoy the pressure, they
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enjoy the expectation. ijust really enjoy the pressure, they enjoy the expectation. i just think we are looking forward to being against a new opponent and picking up against a new opponent and picking up the things we can learn from it. you may be aware of the row in modern pentathlon, with the governing body deciding to remove the horseriding discipline and replace it with another sport for the 2028 olympics. they say it's been under consideration for some time but events at the tokyo games, when one horse refused to perform, are likely to have speeded up the process. there's been strong opposition from pentathletes — team gb�*s 0lympic championjoe choong is one of almost 700 athletes to sign a petition in an attempt to save the sport. it's one of the original 0lympic sports. the sport was invented at the same time as the current 0lympic movement in 1912, we have 109 years of history being the most diverse
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sport, no other multisport tests athletes over such a range of different sort of contrasting sports. i think without that history behind us, i would really question pentathlon 's base in the olympics which is why we keep the five sports together. it’s which is why we keep the five sports totether. �*, _, ., , ., which is why we keep the five sports totether. �*, ., ,., , , together. it's controversial but is it fair? that's all the sport for now. it's coming up to 9:40 am. good morning. it's been 90 years since two women — muriel crooke and rosamund bond — decided to pair veterans blinded in the first world war with specially—trained german shepherds to guide them. their experiment was a huge success and the charity guide dogs was born. today, it has expanded to match up tens of thousands of people across the uk with a dog to help them live their fullest life. with me is jamie weller — he lost his sight aged 19 and now lives with his guide dog, fred. and i'm alsojoined by carlie haigh. she works for the charity.
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jamie, tell us about your daily life good morning. i jamie, tell us about your daily life good morning-— jamie, tell us about your daily life good morning. jamie, tell us about your daily life tood mornint. , , good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19. i good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19- i don't _ good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19. i don't have _ good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19. i don't have any _ good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19. i don't have any vision i good morning. i lost my sight when i was 19. i don't have any vision at i was 19. i don't have any vision at also getting around and seeing details is quite a challenge. i have had freddie for three years now. he has given me confidence to live an independent and normal life. he guides me around town. if i am going on long journeys, i am quite active, we go to london, we use the tube, he is a really confident dog. he basically gets me around the furniture, on the streets, keeps me safe. without having him, i would not be able to lead the life that i do and have the confidence to be independent so he is a massive help to me and you know, i can go into a shop and as soon as someone says i
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have a guide dog, i get assistance, he is a massive help to me. massive confidence boost. _ he is a massive help to me. massive confidence boost. how— he is a massive help to me. massive confidence boost. how old _ he is a massive help to me. massive confidence boost. how old is - he is a massive help to me. massive confidence boost. how old is he? is| confidence boost. how old is he? is he a labrador? he confidence boost. how old is he? is he a labrador?— he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? — he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? he _ he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? he is _ he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? he is half _ he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? he is half dustbin! i he a labrador? he is have labrador. he is what? he is half dustbin! he l he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! _ he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that _ he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that is _ he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that is why - he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that is why it i he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that is why it is i he is what? he is half dustbin! he eats and eats! that is why it is so | eats and eats! that is why it is so well trained. he is five years old. we share the same birthday! he is absolutely gorgeous. a very confident dog. yes, very, he is a very good dog and he is a beautiful dog. he very good dog and he is a beautiful dot _ ., , , ., very good dog and he is a beautiful do. ., , , ., very good dog and he is a beautiful do. ., , ,., , ., ., dog. he really is a beautiful dog. currently. _ dog. he really is a beautiful dog. currently, how _ dog. he really is a beautiful dog. currently, how do _ dog. he really is a beautiful dog. currently, how do you _ dog. he really is a beautiful dog. currently, how do you train i dog. he really is a beautiful dog. | currently, how do you train these dogs to help people like jamie go about their daily lives?— dogs to help people like jamie go about their daily lives? guide dogs is here, about their daily lives? guide dogs is here. we — about their daily lives? guide dogs is here, we have _ about their daily lives? guide dogs is here, we have been _ about their daily lives? guide dogs is here, we have been around i about their daily lives? guide dogs is here, we have been around for i about their daily lives? guide dogs i is here, we have been around for 90 years. _ is here, we have been around for 90 years. we _ is here, we have been around for 90 years. we are — is here, we have been around for 90 years, we are marking the
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anniversary and the dogs go through anniversary and the dogs go through a thorough _ anniversary and the dogs go through a thorough training programme. to then come — a thorough training programme. to then come on to be matched with people _ then come on to be matched with people living with sight loss. which again— people living with sight loss. which again is— people living with sight loss. which again is another thorough process that they— again is another thorough process that they go through to ensure that the dog _ that they go through to ensure that the dog works well with the person and that— the dog works well with the person and that the partnership can be successful. and that the partnership can be successful-— and that the partnership can be successful. 1. , ., , ., successful. can you give us, i want the details- — successful. can you give us, i want the details. how— successful. can you give us, i want the details. how do _ successful. can you give us, i want the details. how do you _ successful. can you give us, i want the details. how do you train i successful. can you give us, i want the details. how do you train dogs| the details. how do you train dogs to safely guide people like jamie across a busy road? down steep steps to the underground, et cetera? the dos to the underground, et cetera? the dogs themselves go into a programme. once they— dogs themselves go into a programme. once they have gone through the puppy— once they have gone through the puppy raising process, they then come _ puppy raising process, they then come to— puppy raising process, they then come to one of the training centres. they are _ come to one of the training centres. they are matched with a trainer who then starts _ they are matched with a trainer who then starts to embark on a training course _ then starts to embark on a training course which includes positive reinforcement that they used to train _ reinforcement that they used to train the — reinforcement that they used to train the dogs. they go through every— train the dogs. they go through every obstacle, steps, curbs,
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crossings. _ every obstacle, steps, curbs, crossings, obstacles, and they train them _ crossings, obstacles, and they train them to— crossings, obstacles, and they train them to be — crossings, obstacles, and they train them to be able to know to stop at that point— them to be able to know to stop at that point through a positive reinforcement system. understandably, i suppose, reinforcement system. understandably, isuppose, members of the public might see a guide dog with a partially sighted or blind person and want to go up to that dog and pat them and you know, cuddle them and struck them and all the rest of it but actually, these are working dogs and that is not what you want people to do, is it? absolutely right. people are very tempted — absolutely right. people are very tempted to go over and talk to the door, _ tempted to go over and talk to the door. try— tempted to go over and talk to the door. try to— tempted to go over and talk to the door, try to fuss over it and stroke it but— door, try to fuss over it and stroke it but they— door, try to fuss over it and stroke it but they are working dogs and it is really— it but they are working dogs and it is really important that nobody goes up is really important that nobody goes up to a _ is really important that nobody goes up to a guide dog and start spreading it without obviously, if you ask— spreading it without obviously, if you ask the owner, and the dog isn't working. _ you ask the owner, and the dog isn't working, that is different. when the do- working, that is different. when the dog is— working, that is different. when the dog is working, it's crucial that no one goes— dog is working, it's crucial that no one goes up— dog is working, it's crucial that no one goes up to the dog and start spreading — one goes up to the dog and start spreading it, howevertempting, it
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is crucial— spreading it, howevertempting, it is crucial that they do not do it. if is crucial that they do not do it. if people — is crucial that they do not do it. if people come and ask me if they can pet freddie, if i am going somewhere, i generally say no, but if he is not working, and resting, i am having a cup of coffee, then i say, yes. it is only right that they want to pat the dog. they will potentially help some more guide dogs going forward. if they ask and i say they cannot pat them because he is a working dog, but i would allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you — allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you how — allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you how you _ allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you how you lost _ allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you how you lost your i allow people to pat him on... jamie, can i ask you how you lost your site i can i ask you how you lost your site because it led to the end of your career in the navy and i want to ask you what effect that had a new? i was 19 when i lost my sight after a short career in the navy as an aircraft engineer and i was getting to the end of my training and the back of my eyes died, i was devastated. my whole life was turned
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upside down. i was like back into childhood, how to learn to read, get around, the simple things in life you take for granted. cooking a meal, getting around, reading newspapers, meeting people, all of those things were taken away from me when i was 19. through the help of guide dogs and blind veterans uk and other charities i have learnt how to live my life again and deal with my sight loss, it has been a challenge, everyday a challenge. you need to think about ways of getting over those challenges that my sight loss brings to me. i have lots of ways, my talking phone, my tv talks to me, the guide dog, some of the appliances in my kitchen talk to me and i have assistance when i go out on my bike, a tandem, i have a pilot, i go skiing, i am a ski guide. there is somebody at the door! there's lots of ways of getting over being sight impaired,
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it does not end your life, it is a different way of doing things, that's what i say to people. you have to get on with it, no other choice, dealwith have to get on with it, no other choice, deal with it and the challenges life throws at you. like so many things- — challenges life throws at you. like so many things. jamie, thank you so much for talking to us and freddie who has been such a good boy. what a handsome chap he is. and carly, thank you so much. thank you all so much. a study of nearly 90,000 people suggests that those who go to sleep between 10 and 11pm have a lower risk of stroke or heart attack than people with other bedtimes. the team, from from the bio—medical database uk biobank, say more research is needed to understand why, but they believe synchronising sleep to match the internal body clock may be important. ido i do not really understand that! joining me now is dr neil stanley who is the director
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of sleep science at sleepstation. what does that mean? it means sleeping when you sleeping and waking up when you have had enough sleep. we all have our own timing, some people are mourning, some people are evening people. the aim is going to bed in harmony with what your body wants rather than going in a defined time, many people go to bed because the tv programme they are watching as finishing or because their partner is going to bed regardless of whether they actually themselves are sleepy or not. what themselves are sleepy or not. what do ou themselves are sleepy or not. what do you think — themselves are sleepy or not. what do you think of _ themselves are sleepy or not. what do you think of this _ themselves are sleepy or not. what do you think of this research that suggests, there are so many caveats, i have to say, it is a big sample of people but there could be so many other reasons that lead to someone having a heart attack or stroke but, you know, on the surface, what do you know, on the surface, what do you think of this that suggests going to bed between ten and 11 can reduce your risk of heart attack or stroke? ., ,._ ., ., , stroke? you say there are many caveats, that's _
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stroke? you say there are many caveats, that's correct, - stroke? you say there are many caveats, that's correct, we i stroke? you say there are manyl caveats, that's correct, we easily get fooled into believing more data is good but what actually does is reduce everybody to an average. so what is important is about what you as an individual do. with this study, actually the group that were going to bed regularly between 10pm and 11pm, at the start of the study had a lower risk of heart disease. it's not that clever to say that six years later, they still have a lower risk of heart disease. tbtnd years later, they still have a lower risk of heart disease.— years later, they still have a lower risk of heart disease. and those who are atoin risk of heart disease. and those who are going to — risk of heart disease. and those who are going to bed _ risk of heart disease. and those who are going to bed later— risk of heart disease. and those who are going to bed later it _ risk of heart disease. and those who are going to bed later it might i are going to bed later it might be of drinking and whatever and therefore they were vulnerable to a higher risk of heart disease, for example? it higher risk of heart disease, for examle? . higher risk of heart disease, for examle? , ., ,., higher risk of heart disease, for exam tle? , ., ,., ., , example? it is about what is right for ou. example? it is about what is right for you- we _ example? it is about what is right foryou- we as— example? it is about what is right for you. we as an _ example? it is about what is right for you. we as an individual, i example? it is about what is rightj for you. we as an individual, have example? it is about what is right i for you. we as an individual, have a chroma type, i have been a sleep expert for 40 years and i know i need to go to bed around 9pm to get 9.5 hours sleep so this information has no relevance to me at all because i am sleepy at 9pm and i want to go to bed then and sleep 9.5
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hours. do what is right for you, not what statistical averages tell you to do. if what statistical averages tell you to do. . 1. . . what statistical averages tell you todo. , , ., to do. if it is that simple, you go to do. if it is that simple, you go to bed when _ to do. if it is that simple, you go to bed when you're _ to do. if it is that simple, you go to bed when you're tired, - to do. if it is that simple, you go to bed when you're tired, why i to do. if it is that simple, you go i to bed when you're tired, why do we need people like you?— need people like you? because we fortet need people like you? because we fort et to need people like you? because we forget to do _ need people like you? because we forget to do that, _ need people like you? because we forget to do that, we _ need people like you? because we forget to do that, we are - need people like you? because we forget to do that, we are seduced| need people like you? because we i forget to do that, we are seduced by flashing lights, by people like you! because people are watching streaming services and playing on their phones and not listening to their phones and not listening to their body and actually going to sleep when they feel sleepy. in the past, i am only talking 30 years ago, pubs closed at 10:30 pm, the tv went off at 11pm and late—night shopping was 6pm on a thursday night, it was not difficult to get to sleep but the 24/7 society means that we forego sleep in order to do all those, but we believe to be much more exciting things but there is a price to pay for that.— price to pay for that. thank you very much _ price to pay for that. thank you very much for— price to pay for that. thank you very much for talking _ price to pay for that. thank you very much for talking to - price to pay for that. thank you very much for talking to us, i price to pay for that. thank you very much for talking to us, we\ very much for talking to us, we appreciate it. doctor neil stanley.
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the very sensible advice, go to sleep when you are tired. tens of thousands of ceramic poppies, which were first displayed at the tower of london, are being given a permanent home in manchester. the original exhibition drew millions of visitors when it marked the centenary of world war one. mairead smyth reports. i went to see it with my kids, many years ago. when you arrived, it made you feel so emotional. mairead smyth reports. almost 13,000 ceramic poppies now in their permanent place. the wave and weeping window together in a new display at imperial war museum. these were among nearly 900,000 poppies that made up the blood swept lands and seas of red installation at the tower of london in 2014. each poppy representing a life lost among the british and colonial forces on the front line
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of world war i. poppies are something we naturally associate with conflict, and that has its roots in the first world war. and we think of that conflict as one of devastation and destruction. but poppies were actually one of the few sources of brightness and colour in these devastated landscapes on the western front. more than five million people visited the original artwork marking the centenary of the war. the sections were exhibited around the country, including at st george's hall in liverpool and the silk mill in derby. the wave and the weeping window were bought for the nation in 2015 and donated to imperial war museum's permanent collection three years later. from the beginning to now, it's always needed to be, for me, a beautiful sight to see. and then you dive into it with the story behind it of the death and the destruction and people's sacrifice, what they fought for, and we still do.
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today, the sections are combined in a new design. poppies will open to the public tomorrow. let's get more now on the news that rolls royce has secured the funding it needs to develop a new generation of small nuclear plants. the company is hoping to create up to 40,000 jobs by 2050. this will allow the enginering firm to design the reactors, which it hopes will supply low carbon energy to millions of homes by the end of the decade. so lets look at what this would mean for us all. one uk small modular reactor also known as a smr powers over 60,000 electric cars. rolls royce smr estimate that each small modular reactor could be capable of powering 1 million homes 7 equivalent to a city the size of leeds. one of the uks small modular reactor
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powers over 60,000 electric cars. joining me now is tom greatrex, the chief executive of the nuclear industry association. i would like to begin with the basics, can you explain why it is greener than other sources of energy, nuclear power? it is as ureen as energy, nuclear power? it is as green as wind. _ energy, nuclear power? it is as green as wind, greener - energy, nuclear power? it is as green as wind, greener than i energy, nuclear power? it is as i green as wind, greener than solar because it does not emit any carbon. in the power production. and because with nuclear power, you have a lot of power coming from a relatively small geographical source so it means the lifetime emissions are very low as well. as part of what we need to do to get to a de— carbonised power supply, nuclear has a part to play and it is different from wind and solar in that it does not reliant on the weather and whether it is windy or sunny to deliver power, it works regardless. sources combined help us to get to a low carbon system and that is why this is important for the future. it may be important for the future, as you say. but there are individuals who do not want to live near a small
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nuclear power plant, there are organisations like greenpeace who say it is really, really expensive, creates a lot of hazardous waste. and it's creates a lot of hazardous waste. and its slow to build. they point to hinkley point c reactor which could cost over 25,000,000,000 by the time it's finished in 2025 at the time it's finished in 2025 at the earliest. eight years behind schedule. , , ., ., ., schedule. greenpeace are wrong on almost everything _ schedule. greenpeace are wrong on almost everything they _ schedule. greenpeace are wrong on almost everything they say - schedule. greenpeace are wrong on almost everything they say in - almost everything they say in relation to nuclear power. what's wrong about those three statements, it's incredibly expensive, i've shown you that with hinkley point. creates 25,000,000,000? it's not expensive? let me explain. that is the capital cost for building a power station. once you build a power station. once you build a power station. once you build a power station it generates, hinkley is the example, it will generate electricity for the current equivalent of 7%, that's a lot of electricity, it also produces it for a very long time, that power station will operate for something like 80 years, a long—lived piece of
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infrastructure. when it is generating electricity it has a very low and stable fuel price so it is not impacted by fluctuating cost of gas for example which is what is causing problems in terms of energy and the affordability of energy at the moment so on that level. 14541431111. the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry. — the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry. if — the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry. if you _ the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry, if you compare _ the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry, if you compare it - the moment so on that level. well, i'm sorry, if you compare it to - i'm sorry, if you compare it to other renewables like an offshore wind farm, that is relatively quick to build and relatively cheap, that is the point they are making. yes. is the point they are making. yes, but it also — is the point they are making. yes, but it also only — is the point they are making. yes, but it also only produces - but it also only produces electricity more electricity when it is very windy. so you need to have within your system what we call firm power, that which is not impacted by the weather to complement the variable output you get from wind and solar, for example. if you get the mix right, you minimise the additional cost, at the moment we are paying what we call balancing costs into the system, £125,000,000 during the course of the last month, for example, just to try to balance
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the different sources we currently have. if you want to have a reliable and secure low carbon system you need firm power alongside the variable output power and you need that not to be any form of power that not to be any form of power that reduces carbon emissions and that's why nuclear is integral to getting to a low carb and mix for the future and it's simply not the case you can get to net zero without nuclear. ~ , ., , ., nuclear. well, people argue differently. _ nuclear. well, people argue differently. let _ nuclear. well, people argue differently. let me - nuclear. well, people argue differently. let me rr - nuclear. well, people argue differently. let me rr askl nuclear. well, people argue i differently. let me rr ask you nuclear. well, people argue - differently. let me rr ask you about the safety side of things, people look at what happened at chernobyl, fukushima, iam not look at what happened at chernobyl, fukushima, i am not suggesting small nuclear power plants in this country could end up in a scenario like that but they might and what about the radioactive waste? i am afraid there is not lots of time for you to answer that so i do apologise. ellen; answer that so i do apologise. very cuickl , answer that so i do apologise. very quickly, radioactive _ answer that so i do apologise. , quickly, radioactive waste, most of the waste comes from nuclear power station as heat, in terms of radioactive waste, it is very, very small by volume and it is contained, we have done that for more than 50 years in this country effectively, we verify it and put it into a
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concrete cast and it is kept until the radiation, the radiation subsides, that is what we do. we are the only energy source that actually accounts for and looks after its waste, we get waste from lots of energy sources, the worst waste is that which causes carbon emissions and greenhouse gases going into the atmosphere and if you have nuclear as part of the mix you avoid that and that is how we get a secure and reliable supply of power for people's lives and society and businesses and everything else that we do without adding to the climate crisis. . .. we do without adding to the climate crisis. ., ~' , ., we do without adding to the climate crisis. ., ~ , ., ,., we do without adding to the climate crisis. . ~' , ., ,., . we do without adding to the climate crisis. ., ~ i. . ., we do without adding to the climate crisis. ., ~ . ., crisis. thank you so much for your time. crisis. thank you so much for your time- thank— crisis. thank you so much for your time. thank you. _ now it's time for a look at the weather here's carol good morning. it has been a mild start to the day and today will be mild generally. west or south westerly breeze is, stronger winds across the far north of scotland and two weather fronts, across the far north of scotland and two weatherfronts, in across the far north of scotland and two weather fronts, in the sound producing rain, in the north producing rain, in the north producing showers and that has been the case this morning. the rain
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pouring in across southern scotland and northern england, across wales and northern england, across wales and the shower is coming across the outer hebrides. between, bright skies and sunshine. light winds, gusting winds across the far north of scotland and the northern and western isles, gusting up to 50mph. this afternoon, some sunshine breaking through across eastern and southern scotland, showers in the west, the band are showers peppering the north of northern ireland but for you, there will be some sunshine. more cloud across england and wales, here is that weather front, sinking south, not getting into the far south until later, here we should hang onto some sunshine but may be the odd shower. temperatures ranging from 10 in the north, up to 15 in the south. this evening and overnight, a fair bit of cloud across england and wales, some rain and murky conditions around, el fog. still some showers across parts of scotland and northern ireland but under clear skies, the temperatures falling away low enough for some
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frost in sheltered glens. no such issues across england and wales, it will be mild and a mild start to the day. here is all this cloud and the weather front producing some rain across england and wales tomorrow. for scotland and northern ireland, something brighter, still some showers but we should see some sunny spells but still gusty winds across the far north of scotland. gusting again 40 or50mph. the far north of scotland. gusting again 40 or 50mph. temperatures nine degrees up to 15 and this weather front coming in across the north west. slipping southward through the course of the day, a fairly weak feature but again, cloud left in its wake but a ridge of high pressure building across us so things will be more settled for a time. having said that, this area of low pressure waiting in the winds, that looks like it will come our way on friday. on thursday, it brings rain and strengthening winds to some western areas, especially northern ireland. temperatures, a degrees in the north, 14 in the south.
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this is bbc news, i'm victoria derbyshire. these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. the uk government is set to announce that all front line staff in the national health service in england will have to be fully vaccinated against covid—19 by next spring. it is good news in terms of being able to ensure that we protect staff, patients and visitors from nhs members of staff having infections. what is your reaction, particularly if you work in the nhs? the policy is already in place in italy, france and germany. should you be forced to get the vaccine if you have not already? fleeing poverty — the number
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