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hello and welcome to the programme which brings together leading uk commentators, bbc specialists and the foreign correspondents who write, blog and broadcast to audiences at home from the dateline: london. this week, translating hot air into action to stop the air. getting hotter. migrants used as political pawns on the european union's border; and why sleaze a word that dogged british politics in the 1990s is making a comeback. in glasgow is isabel hilton from china dialogue, which helps the world understand china's own climate crisis.
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agnes poirier is uk editor of the french weekly, l'express. damian grammaticas, who's been a bbc correspondent in china, brussels, and now westminster is in the studio. welcome to both of you, isabel and agnes. lovely to see you. the absence of china's president xi at the cop26, the summit in glasgow trying to agree ways to contain a ruinous rise in global temperature, seemed an ominous signal that beijing was not prepared to join the climate consensus. as we discussed here last week, the message, aimed at the industrialised west appeared to be : you broke it, you own it. this week, though, a different tune: strengthening emissions cutting targets and developing a national plan on methane. in conjunction with the united states. isabel, a good sign that they are prepared to do something like that.
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and as become an heir, i good sign that the delegates in glasgow are hanging around to carry on talking this weekend.— hanging around to carry on talking this weekend. absolutely. and you can see the — this weekend. absolutely. and you can see the activity _ this weekend. absolutely. and you can see the activity behind - this weekend. absolutely. and you can see the activity behind me - this weekend. absolutely. and you can see the activity behind me and| can see the activity behind me and hear the noise, the delegates going in and out of rooms which the kind of hand—to—hand combat phase of this whole messy process is happening. and that's because the presidency, the uk presidency is trying to get a draught text that everyone can agree on. so they release a new draught, and everybody fights over the bits they don't like, tries to keep in they don't like, tries to keep in the bits they do like. it's multidimensional chess. the china us agreement, the first from the moment between china and the united states that we have seen for months, if not years, was a real shot in the arm. it was a surprise to everyone. it doesn't actually save any carbon, but the chemistry of it was pretty
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helpful here. but the chemistry of it was pretty helpful here-— helpful here. damian, whatever china's engagement _ helpful here. damian, whatever china's engagement to - helpful here. damian, whatever china's engagement to seek - helpful here. damian, whatever china's engagement to seek as| china's engagement to seek as opposed to last week is sort of evidence of this more positive foreign policy that was being hinted at by some officials earlier in the year. i at by some officials earlier in the ear. ~' ~' at by some officials earlier in the ear. ~ ~ , at by some officials earlier in the ear. ~ ~ year. i think like isabel said, you have to see _ year. i think like isabel said, you have to see a — year. i think like isabel said, you have to see a positive _ year. i think like isabel said, you have to see a positive in - year. i think like isabel said, you have to see a positive in this, . year. i think like isabel said, you. have to see a positive in this, that they were both there, both agreeing on something, these are the two giants in the room. they did, its worth saying, have a similar sort of agreement that they made earlier this year and put out. so there wasn't that much new in it. but the fact it happened at c is an important signal, i think. all the really difficult times if this is going to wear, the climate battle, then it's got to be these two leading the way. —— but the fact that it happened at cop dot net that has a positive statement to show that, even if everyone looks at it and says look at the detail, where are the big signals go out beyond
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the other countries, so they go to american businesses, chinese businesses, the bureaucracies about how they can work together. that is important. how they can work together. that is im ortant. �* i. how they can work together. that is im ortant. �* ,, ., how they can work together. that is imortant. �* ., , ., important. and you have seen it. you have travelled _ important. and you have seen it. you have travelled backwards _ important. and you have seen it. you have travelled backwards and - have travelled backwards and forwards. we have seen the damage thatis forwards. we have seen the damage that is being done to the environment already. find that is being done to the environment already. and china is very conscious _ environment already. and china is very conscious of _ environment already. and china is very conscious of that. _ environment already. and china is very conscious of that. it's - environment already. and china is very conscious of that. it's very i very conscious of that. it's very conscious of both things, that it needs to power its growth and of the damage that that is doing. can i think also interestingly is conscious of something else, it's conscious of something else, its image internationally, and i think that's important here. nobody wants to be the spoiler in this and at cop, so sitting down together and coming up with an agreement to seek help some not be seen as the bad guys. even if it's a bit late in the cop... ., ., , , cop... how does this fit with the other commitments _ cop... how does this fit with the other commitments china - cop... how does this fit with the other commitments china has i cop... how does this fit with the i other commitments china has made cop... how does this fit with the - other commitments china has made and thoseit other commitments china has made and those it has declined to make? while, as damian said, i think last week_ while, as damian said, i think last week china — while, as damian said, i think last week china was having a very poor in
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a-e week china was having a very poor in age at _ week china was having a very poor in age at the _ week china was having a very poor in age at the cop. the president didn't coma, _ age at the cop. the president didn't come. there — age at the cop. the president didn't come, there was no video, and they didn'l_ come, there was no video, and they didn't bring — come, there was no video, and they didn't bring anything new. they have made _ didn't bring anything new. they have made big _ didn't bring anything new. they have made big announcements in the past two years. _ made big announcements in the past two years, but they have done them at the _ two years, but they have done them at the un _ two years, but they have done them at the un general assembly. the plan earlier_ at the un general assembly. the plan earlier this _ at the un general assembly. the plan earlier this year is really disappointing on climate. so the sense _ disappointing on climate. so the sense that they were coming empty—handed really wasn'tjust empty— handed really wasn't just that _ empty— handed really wasn't just that the — empty—handed really wasn'tjust that. the whole delegation was sort of shut— that. the whole delegation was sort of shut away. the last few years things _ of shut away. the last few years things like — of shut away. the last few years things like this, the chinese have been _ things like this, the chinese have been doing outreach committee have organised _ been doing outreach committee have organised events, a pavilion where you could — organised events, a pavilion where you could go and find people to talk to. you could go and find people to talk to all_ you could go and find people to talk to all of— you could go and find people to talk to. all of that got shut down this year _ to. all of that got shut down this year. they— to. all of that got shut down this year. they are very shut away. so the announcement really saved the image _ the announcement really saved the image of— the announcement really saved the image of china in this cop. there are still— image of china in this cop. there are still things that china has not been _ are still things that china has not been terribly helpful about. china didnt— been terribly helpful about. china didn'tioin— been terribly helpful about. china didn'tjoin the methane pledge as other— didn'tjoin the methane pledge as other countries did, but as damian said, _ other countries did, but as damian said. there — other countries did, but as damian said, there is now a other countries did, but as damian said, there is nowa plan other countries did, but as damian said, there is now a plan to work on methane _ said, there is now a plan to work on methane together, and i think one of the important things about the announcement is that it wasn't just announcement is that it wasn't just
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a kind _ announcement is that it wasn't just a kind of. _ announcement is that it wasn't just a kind of, "oh, we are shaking hands and being— a kind of, "oh, we are shaking hands and being nice." they are setting up and being nice." they are setting up a working _ and being nice." they are setting up a working group which will continue to work. _ a working group which will continue to work, and i think the effectiveness of this will be judged on whether that working group does -et on whether that working group does get down _ on whether that working group does get down to business and what business — get down to business and what business it gets down to, because then they— business it gets down to, because then they will start saying, ok, the two biggest emitters, how much carbou— two biggest emitters, how much carbon are — two biggest emitters, how much carbon are you really cutting? china has resisted — carbon are you really cutting? china has resisted one of the things and it is still— has resisted one of the things and it is still under discussion here, which _ it is still under discussion here, which is — it is still under discussion here, which is given that we are not going to leave _ which is given that we are not going to leave glasgow having closed the carbon _ to leave glasgow having closed the carbon gap, we have to have a quicker— carbon gap, we have to have a quicker mechanism for coming back to rays _ quicker mechanism for coming back to ray's ambition again. this is the ambition— ray's ambition again. this is the ambition raising cop for various reasons, — ambition raising cop for various reasons, they have missed their targets — reasons, they have missed their targets. so we need to come back more _ targets. so we need to come back more quickly than the next five years. — more quickly than the next five years. in— more quickly than the next five years, in other words, more quickly than the next five years, in otherwords, next more quickly than the next five years, in other words, next year in cairo, _ years, in other words, next year in cairo, china— years, in other words, next year in cairo, china doesn't like that, because — cairo, china doesn't like that, because china, you know, its planning _ because china, you know, its planning process is very cumbersome. it's planning process is very cumbersome. it's very— planning process is very cumbersome. it's very complex, and it doesn't really— it's very complex, and it doesn't really like — it's very complex, and it doesn't really like the idea of suddenly having — really like the idea of suddenly having to produce more rabbits out of a hat— having to produce more rabbits out of a hat within a mere 12 months. so
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it's dragging — of a hat within a mere 12 months. so it's dragging its feet event on that — it's dragging its feet event on that on _ it's dragging its feet event on that. on other things, it's dragging its feet event on that. on otherthings, on—call, again. — that. on otherthings, on—call, again. you _ that. on otherthings, on—call, again, you know, china has been part of the _ again, you know, china has been part of the group — again, you know, china has been part of the group who will be trying to the language on coal because china is dependent on coal. so china has a plan _ is dependent on coal. so china has a plan it— is dependent on coal. so china has a plan it has— is dependent on coal. so china has a plan. it has laid it out in great detail— plan. it has laid it out in great detail in— plan. it has laid it out in great detail in documents at this cop. it's detail in documents at this cop. it'sjust— detail in documents at this cop. it'sjust the speed. it really needs to advance — it'sjust the speed. it really needs to advance the speed.— it'sjust the speed. it really needs to advance the speed. yes, we heard from those — to advance the speed. yes, we heard from those who _ to advance the speed. yes, we heard from those who negotiated _ to advance the speed. yes, we heard from those who negotiated the - from those who negotiated the paris agreement, which is after all the benchmark for all of cop and all the other presences subsequently is being measured. they said it based on the commitments that are being made thus far in the two weeks the invention of paris will have been disappointed. has cap 26, do you think, succeeded in any of its aspirations? i think, succeeded in any of its aspirations?— think, succeeded in any of its asirations? ., , ,, , aspirations? i really think isabel -ut aspirations? i really think isabel ut the aspirations? i really think isabel put the finger — aspirations? i really think isabel put the finger on _ aspirations? i really think isabel put the finger on the _ aspirations? i really think isabel put the finger on the next - aspirations? i really think isabel put the finger on the next step, | put the finger on the next step, and the next _ put the finger on the next step, and the next step— put the finger on the next step, and the next step is— put the finger on the next step, and the next step is not— put the finger on the next step, and the next step is not to _ put the finger on the next step, and the next step is not to reconvene i
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the next step is not to reconvene the next step is not to reconvene the cop— the next step is not to reconvene the cop as — the next step is not to reconvene the cop as well _ the next step is not to reconvene the cop as well as _ the next step is not to reconvene the cop as well as thoughts - the next step is not to reconvene i the cop as well as thoughts before, but it's_ the cop as well as thoughts before, but it's really— the cop as well as thoughts before, but it's really next _ the cop as well as thoughts before, but it's really next year, _ the cop as well as thoughts before, but it's really next year, and - but it's really next year, and perhaps _ but it's really next year, and perhaps the _ but it's really next year, and perhaps the year— but it's really next year, and perhaps the year after. - but it's really next year, and - perhaps the year after. basically, you know. — perhaps the year after. basically, you know. we _ perhaps the year after. basically, you know, we are _ perhaps the year after. basically, you know, we are positive - perhaps the year after. basically, you know, we are positive and i perhaps the year after. basically, | you know, we are positive and we perhaps the year after. basically, - you know, we are positive and we are trying _ you know, we are positive and we are trying to _ you know, we are positive and we are trying to remain — you know, we are positive and we are trying to remain optimistic, _ trying to remain optimistic, especially— trying to remain optimistic, especially after— trying to remain optimistic, especially after the - trying to remain optimistic, - especially after the announcement of that workgroup — especially after the announcement of that workgroup between _ especially after the announcement of that workgroup between the - especially after the announcement of that workgroup between the us - especially after the announcement of that workgroup between the us and i that workgroup between the us and china. _ that workgroup between the us and china. and — that workgroup between the us and china. and that _ that workgroup between the us and china, and that was _ that workgroup between the us and china, and that was a _ that workgroup between the us and china, and that was a very- that workgroup between the us and china, and that was a very nice - china, and that was a very nice surprise. — china, and that was a very nice surprise. but _ china, and that was a very nice surprise, but we _ china, and that was a very nice surprise, but we need - china, and that was a very nice surprise, but we need to - china, and that was a very nice i surprise, but we need to remain lucid _ surprise, but we need to remain lucid and — surprise, but we need to remain lucid and i_ surprise, but we need to remain lucid. and i think— surprise, but we need to remain lucid. and i think the _ surprise, but we need to remain lucid. and i think the architectsl surprise, but we need to remain i lucid. and i think the architects of the paris — lucid. and i think the architects of the paris agreement _ lucid. and i think the architects of the paris agreement is _ lucid. and i think the architects of the paris agreement is about - the paris agreement is about lucidity~ _ the paris agreement is about lucidity. basically, _ the paris agreement is about lucidity. basically, new- the paris agreement is about lucidity. basically, new data, the paris agreement is about - lucidity. basically, new data, new science. — lucidity. basically, new data, new science. it's— lucidity. basically, new data, new science, it's urging _ lucidity. basically, new data, new science, it's urging us— lucidity. basically, new data, new science, it's urging us to - lucidity. basically, new data, new science, it's urging us to make i science, it's urging us to make targetsm _ science, it's urging us to make targets... because _ science, it's urging us to make targets... because the - science, it's urging us to make targets... because the view. science, it's urging us to make . targets... because the view from paris _ targets... because the view from paris was — targets... because the view from paris was that _ targets... because the view from paris was that the _ targets... because the view from paris was that the targets - targets... because the view from paris was that the targets in - paris was that the targets in glasgow— paris was that the targets in glasgow are _ paris was that the targets in glasgow are too _ paris was that the targets in glasgow are too weak, - paris was that the targets in glasgow are too weak, and i paris was that the targets in - glasgow are too weak, and therefore national— glasgow are too weak, and therefore national plans — glasgow are too weak, and therefore national plans need _ glasgow are too weak, and therefore national plans need to _ glasgow are too weak, and therefore national plans need to be _ glasgow are too weak, and therefore national plans need to be improved i national plans need to be improved as early— national plans need to be improved as early as — national plans need to be improved as early as next _ national plans need to be improved as early as next year. _ national plans need to be improved as early as next year. so, - national plans need to be improved as early as next year. so, but, - national plans need to be improved as early as next year. so, but, telll as early as next year. so, but, tell me if— as early as next year. so, but, tell me if i'm _ as early as next year. so, but, tell me if i'm wrong. _ as early as next year. so, but, tell me if i'm wrong, isabel, _ as early as next year. so, but, tell me if i'm wrong, isabel, but- as early as next year. so, but, tell me if i'm wrong, isabel, but i- as early as next year. so, but, tell. me if i'm wrong, isabel, but i heard that the _ me if i'm wrong, isabel, but i heard that the chinese _ me if i'm wrong, isabel, but i heard that the chinese delegation - me if i'm wrong, isabel, but i heard that the chinese delegation was - that the chinese delegation was saying _ that the chinese delegation was
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saying that _ that the chinese delegation was saying that perhaps _ that the chinese delegation was saying that perhaps not - that the chinese delegation was saying that perhaps not next - that the chinese delegation was. saying that perhaps not next year but actually — saying that perhaps not next year but actually 2023 _ saying that perhaps not next year but actually 2023 because - saying that perhaps not next year but actually 2023 because it's - but actually 2023 because it's actually — but actually 2023 because it's actually written _ but actually 2023 because it's actually written provision - but actually 2023 because it's actually written provision in l actually written provision in the paris _ actually written provision in the paris agreements. _ actually written provision in the paris agreements. so _ actually written provision in the paris agreements. so perhaps. actually written provision in the . paris agreements. so perhaps we actually written provision in the - paris agreements. so perhaps we will be getting _ paris agreements. so perhaps we will be getting there. _ paris agreements. so perhaps we will be getting there, but _ paris agreements. so perhaps we will be getting there, but the _ paris agreements. so perhaps we will be getting there, but the 1.5- be getting there, but the 1.5 celsius— be getting there, but the 1.5 celsius limits _ be getting there, but the 1.5 celsius limits is _ be getting there, but the 1.5 celsius limits is absolutely l celsius limits is absolutely paramount _ celsius limits is absolutely paramount for— celsius limits is absolutely paramount for the - celsius limits is absolutely l paramount for the architects celsius limits is absolutely - paramount for the architects of the paris _ paramount for the architects of the paris agreement, _ paramount for the architects of the paris agreement, and _ paramount for the architects of the paris agreement, and we _ paramount for the architects of the paris agreement, and we are - paris agreement, and we are not there _ paris agreement, and we are not there yet — paris agreement, and we are not there yet we _ paris agreement, and we are not there yet. we have _ paris agreement, and we are not there yet. we have the _ paris agreement, and we are not there yet. we have the targets . there yet. we have the targets agreed — there yet. we have the targets agreed so _ there yet. we have the targets agreed so far— there yet. we have the targets agreed so far in— there yet. we have the targets agreed so far in glasgow. - there yet. we have the targets agreed so far in glasgow. isabel? we are definitely — agreed so far in glasgow. isabel? we are definitely not _ agreed so far in glasgow. isabel? we are definitely not there _ agreed so far in glasgow. isabel? we are definitely not there yet. - agreed so far in glasgow. isabel? we are definitely not there yet. the - are definitely not there yet. the neck i think there is some wiggle room for the chinese, but i think they are very reluctant for next year _ they are very reluctant for next year. they _ they are very reluctant for next year. they like to be careful and ensure _ year. they like to be careful and ensure that they can bring something to the _ ensure that they can bring something to the table, but the problem with that as _ to the table, but the problem with that as they are also started falling — that as they are also started falling back on the letter of paris, which _ falling back on the letter of paris, which is _ falling back on the letter of paris, which is code for saying what is in paris _ which is code for saying what is in paris is _ which is code for saying what is in paris is 2 — which is code for saying what is in paris is 2 degrees and making best efforts— paris is 2 degrees and making best efforts to _ paris is 2 degrees and making best efforts to 1.5. since then, of course. _ efforts to 1.5. since then, of course, very solid science about how
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catastrophic— course, very solid science about how catastrophic even 1.5 is and 2 degrees _ catastrophic even 1.5 is and 2 degrees is _ catastrophic even 1.5 is and 2 degrees is really, really dangerous. at the _ degrees is really, really dangerous. at the chinese haven't quite, you know. _ at the chinese haven't quite, you know. and — at the chinese haven't quite, you know, and to that as they should, because _ know, and to that as they should, because once you do embrace 1.5, you have to _ because once you do embrace 1.5, you have to have _ because once you do embrace 1.5, you have to have a — because once you do embrace 1.5, you have to have a plan, and we are still not — have to have a plan, and we are still not seeing that. china needs committee encourage thing about the us china _ committee encourage thing about the us china deal is that they are talking — us china deal is that they are talking about the 20 205. they are talking _ talking about the 20 205. they are talking about the 20 205. they are talking about between now and 2030, and that _ talking about between now and 2030, and that is. _ talking about between now and 2030, and that is, you know, that is where china _ and that is, you know, that is where china is— and that is, you know, that is where china is walking 5low a bit, so anything — china is walking slow a bit, so anything that can speed that up would _ anything that can speed that up would be — anything that can speed that up would be good, but you still see that resistance. yeah, 2023, you know. _ that resistance. yeah, 2023, you know. you — that resistance. yeah, 2023, you know, you get that sort of drag in the system, and that is twice as long _ the system, and that is twice as long to — the system, and that is twice as long to wait, as it were. so not a lot of— long to wait, as it were. so not a lot of time — long to wait, as it were. so not a lot of time-— long to wait, as it were. so not a lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than _ lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than set _ lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than set a _ lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than set a date. _ lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than set a date. the - lot of time. absolutely. by around rather than set a date. the neck. rather than set a date. the neck exactly, exactly, that kind of vague language is one of the negotiating tricks. connect the saudis are doing
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it with references to fossil fuel, for example, it with references to fossil fuel, for example.— for example, australia as well. wra ed for example, australia as well. wrapped in _ for example, australia as well. wrapped in red _ for example, australia as well. wrapped in red class _ for example, australia as well. wrapped in red class blankets, j wrapped in red class blankets, huddled on the forest floor, adults, children, babies. —— wrapped in red cross blankets against the winter cold, huddled on a forest floor. adults, children, babies. these are the victims, the european commission, says of the "gangsterism" practised by belarus. 2000 migrants, many of them kurds, are trapped at the bela rus/poland border. brussels believes they've been lured there to put pressure on the eu to lift sanctions imposed against president lukasheno and his government in minsk. agnes, how great is the european union by the apparent effectiveness of what it calls gangsters? the union by the apparent effectiveness of what it calls gangsters?— of what it calls gangsters? the eu is very worried. _ of what it calls gangsters? the eu is very worried. and _ of what it calls gangsters? the eu is very worried. and it's _ is very worried. and it's interesting _ is very worried. and it's interesting to— is very worried. and it's interesting to see - is very worried. and it's interesting to see that. is very worried. and it'5 . interesting to see that eu is very worried. and it's _ interesting to see that eu reacting because _ interesting to see that eu reacting because it — interesting to see that eu reacting because it is — interesting to see that eu reacting because it is quite _ interesting to see that eu reacting because it is quite slow— interesting to see that eu reacting because it is quite slow at- interesting to see that eu reacting because it is quite slow at the - because it is quite slow at the beginning it— because it is quite slow at the beginning. it needs— because it is quite slow at the beginning. it needs to - because it is quite slow at the beginning. it needs to gain. beginning. it needs to gain traction. _ beginning. it needs to gain traction, and _ beginning. it needs to gain traction, and it's _ beginning. it needs to gain. traction, and it's interesting, because _ traction, and it's interesting, because straightaway, - traction, and it's interesting, because straightaway, the i traction, and it's interesting, . because straightaway, the baltic countries — because straightaway, the baltic countries and _ because straightaway, the baltic countries and pollens _ because straightaway, the baltic
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countries and pollens talked - because straightaway, the baltic. countries and pollens talked about an attack— countries and pollens talked about an attack from _ countries and pollens talked about an attack from lukashenko - countries and pollens talked about an attack from lukashenko and - an attack from lukashenko and belarus — an attack from lukashenko and belarus and _ an attack from lukashenko and belarus. and at _ an attack from lukashenko and belarus. and at first, _ an attack from lukashenko and belarus. and at first, they - an attack from lukashenko and belarus. and at first, they say, an attack from lukashenko and - belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's— belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's too— belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's too strong _ belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's too strong a _ belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's too strong a language, - belarus. and at first, they say, no, that's too strong a language, we i belarus. and at first, they say, no, . that's too strong a language, we are not going _ that's too strong a language, we are not going to — that's too strong a language, we are not going to use _ that's too strong a language, we are not going to use that _ that's too strong a language, we are not going to use that wording, - not going to use that wording, but they are _ not going to use that wording, but they are now— not going to use that wording, but they are now using _ not going to use that wording, but they are now using that _ not going to use that wording, but they are now using that term. - not going to use that wording, but they are now using that term. youj they are now using that term. you know. _ they are now using that term. you know. it _ they are now using that term. you know. it is — they are now using that term. you know. it is quite _ they are now using that term. you know, it is quite obvious. - they are now using that term. you know, it is quite obvious. we - they are now using that term. you| know, it is quite obvious. we know that the _ know, it is quite obvious. we know that the leader— know, it is quite obvious. we know that the leader of _ know, it is quite obvious. we know that the leader of belarus - know, it is quite obvious. we know that the leader of belarus and - that the leader of belarus and lukashenko— that the leader of belarus and lukashenko as _ that the leader of belarus and lukashenko as effectively - that the leader of belarus and . lukashenko as effectively since that the leader of belarus and - lukashenko as effectively since the summer— lukashenko as effectively since the summer being _ lukashenko as effectively since the summer being contributing - lukashenko as effectively since the summer being contributing to- summer being contributing to trafficking _ 5ummer being contributing to trafficking for— summer being contributing to trafficking for refugees - summer being contributing to trafficking for refugees and i trafficking for refugees and economic— trafficking for refugees and economic migrants, - trafficking for refugees and economic migrants, luringi trafficking for refugees and - economic migrants, luring them to minsk— economic migrants, luring them to minsk and — economic migrants, luring them to minsk and then— economic migrants, luring them to minsk and then pushing _ economic migrants, luring them to minsk and then pushing them - economic migrants, luring them to minsk and then pushing them to. economic migrants, luring them to. minsk and then pushing them to the border— minsk and then pushing them to the border with— minsk and then pushing them to the border with the _ minsk and then pushing them to the border with the eu _ minsk and then pushing them to the border with the eu with _ minsk and then pushing them to the border with the eu with the - border with the eu with the complexity of _ border with the eu with the complexity of airline - border with the eu with the - complexity of airline companies. and the eu _ complexity of airline companies. and the eu now— complexity of airline companies. and the eu now is — complexity of airline companies. and the eu now is doing _ complexity of airline companies. and the eu now is doing something - complexity of airline companies. and the eu now is doing something and l the eu now is doing something and can do— the eu now is doing something and can do something. _ the eu now is doing something and can do something. so— the eu now is doing something and can do something. so there - the eu now is doing something and can do something. so there will. the eu now is doing something and can do something. so there will be | the eu now is doing something and. can do something. so there will be a fifth wave _ can do something. so there will be a fifth wave date _ can do something. so there will be a fifth wave date neck— can do something. so there will be a fifth wave date neck fifth _ can do something. so there will be a fifth wave date neck fifth wave of - fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions — fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions that _ fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions that are _ fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions that are targeted - fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions that are targeted at - fifth wave date neck fifth wave of sanctions that are targeted at 13| sanctions that are targeted at 13 individuals— sanctions that are targeted at 13 individuals and _ sanctions that are targeted at 13 individuals and organisations . individuals and organisations involved _ individuals and organisations involved in— individuals and organisations involved in the _ individuals and organisations involved in the current - individuals and organisation5|
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involved in the current crisis, which — involved in the current crisis, which is _ involved in the current crisis, which is not _ involved in the current crisis, which is not a _ involved in the current crisis, which is not a migration- involved in the current crisis, . which is not a migration crisis, involved in the current crisis, - which is not a migration crisis, but a political— which is not a migration crisis, but a political crisis. _ which is not a migration crisis, but a political crisis. in _ which is not a migration crisis, but a political crisis. in effect, - a political crisis. in effect, lukashenko— a political crisis. in effect, lukashenko i5— a political crisis. in effect, lukashenko is acting - a political crisis. in effect, lukashenko is acting out i a political crisis. in effect, l lukashenko is acting out of a political crisis. in effect, - lukashenko is acting out of revenge because _ lukashenko is acting out of revenge because of— lukashenko is acting out of revenge because of the _ lukashenko is acting out of revenge because of the sanctions. _ lukashenko is acting out of revenge because of the sanctions. we - lukashenko is acting out of revenge because of the sanctions. we had . lukashenko is acting out of revenge i because of the sanctions. we had the un security— because of the sanctions. we had the un security council— because of the sanctions. we had the un security counciljoined, _ because of the sanctions. we had the un security counciljoined, declare i un security counciljoined, declare action. _ un security counciljoined, declare action. you — un security counciljoined, declare action, you know, _ un security counciljoined, declare action, you know, saying _ un security counciljoined, declare action, you know, saying that- action, you know, saying that lukashenko— action, you know, saying that lukashenko should _ action, you know, saying that lukashenko should stop - action, you know, saying thati lukashenko should stop trying action, you know, saying that. lukashenko should stop trying to destabilise — lukashenko should stop trying to destabilise the _ lukashenko should stop trying to destabilise the whole _ lukashenko should stop trying to destabilise the whole region, - lukashenko should stop trying to| destabilise the whole region, and lukashenko should stop trying to i destabilise the whole region, and of course. _ destabilise the whole region, and of course, something _ destabilise the whole region, and of course, something perhaps - destabilise the whole region, and of course, something perhaps more i course, something perhaps more efficient— course, something perhaps more efficient that _ course, something perhaps more efficient that eu _ course, something perhaps more efficient that eu has _ course, something perhaps more efficient that eu has been- course, something perhaps more efficient that eu has been in- efficient that eu has been in contact _ efficient that eu has been in contact with— efficient that eu has been in contact with neighbouring. efficient that eu has been in- contact with neighbouring middle eastern _ contact with neighbouring middle eastern countries, _ contact with neighbouring middle eastern countries, and _ contact with neighbouring middle eastern countries, and now- contact with neighbouring middle eastern countries, and now iraq. contact with neighbouring middle . eastern countries, and now iraq but also turkey— eastern countries, and now iraq but also turkey have _ eastern countries, and now iraq but also turkey have band _ eastern countries, and now iraq but also turkey have band flights - eastern countries, and now iraq but also turkey have band flights from. also turkey have band flights from their region. — also turkey have band flights from their region, from _ also turkey have band flights from their region, from their— also turkey have band flights from their region, from their countries. their region, from their countries from _ their region, from their countries from baghdad _ their region, from their countries from baghdad to _ their region, from their countries from baghdad to minsk, - their region, from their countries from baghdad to minsk, but, - their region, from their countries from baghdad to minsk, but, of. from baghdad to minsk, but, of course. — from baghdad to minsk, but, of course. on _ from baghdad to minsk, but, of course, on the _ from baghdad to minsk, but, of course, on the border, - from baghdad to minsk, but, of course, on the border, you - from baghdad to minsk, but, of| course, on the border, you have from baghdad to minsk, but, of. course, on the border, you have a few thousand _ course, on the border, you have a few thousand migraines, - few thousand migraines, asylum—seekers - few thousand migraines, asylum—seekers who - few thousand migraines, asylum—seekers who arej few thousand migraines, - asylum—seekers who are just few thousand migraines, _ asylum—seekers who are just stock, and. _ asylum—seekers who are just stock, and. across— asylum—seekers who are just stock, and, across portland _ asylum—seekers who are just stock, and, across portland have _ asylum—seekers who are just stock, and, across portland have their- asylum—seekers who are just stock, and, across portland have their own tensions— and, across portland have their own tensions at— and, across portland have their own tensions at the _ and, across portland have their own tensions at the eu. _ and, across portland have their own tensions at the eu. and _ and, across portland have their own tensions at the eu. and they- and, across portland have their own tensions at the eu. and they have, i tensions at the eu. and they have, you could _
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tensions at the eu. and they have, you could argue. _ tensions at the eu. and they have, you could argue, 15,000 _ tensions at the eu. and they have, you could argue, 15,000 troops- tensions at the eu. and they have, you could argue, 15,000 troops on| you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish — you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish side _ you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish side refusing _ you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish side refusing to - you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish side refusing to let - you could argue, 15,000 troops on the polish side refusing to let any. the polish side refusing to let any doctor— the polish side refusing to let any doctor is— the polish side refusing to let any doctor is look— the polish side refusing to let any doctor is look at _ the polish side refusing to let any doctor is look at and _ the polish side refusing to let any doctor is look at and care - the polish side refusing to let any doctor is look at and care for - the polish side refusing to let any. doctor is look at and care for those poor— doctor is look at and care for those poor people — doctor is look at and care for those poor people in _ doctor is look at and care for those poor people in freezing _ poor people in freezing temperatures. - poor people in freezing temperatures. —— - poor people in freezing i temperatures. —— poland. poor people in freezing - temperatures. —— poland. that situation— temperatures. —— poland. that situation could _ temperatures. —— poland. that situation could escalate - temperatures. —— poland. that situation could escalate very. situation could escalate very quickly. _ situation could escalate very quickly, especially _ situation could escalate very quickly, especially as - situation could escalate very quickly, especially as i- situation could escalate very quickly, especially as i thinkj situation could escalate very. quickly, especially as i think we have _ quickly, especially as i think we have seen— quickly, especially as i think we have seen the _ quickly, especially as i think we have seen the ukraine - quickly, especially as i think we i have seen the ukraine mobilising troops. _ have seen the ukraine mobilising troops. and — have seen the ukraine mobilising troops. and of— have seen the ukraine mobilising troops, and of christ, _ have seen the ukraine mobilising troops, and of christ, we - have seen the ukraine mobilising troops, and of christ, we are - troops, and of christ, we are talking — troops, and of christ, we are talking about _ troops, and of christ, we are talking about russia, - troops, and of christ, we are talking about russia, the - troops, and of christ, we are - talking about russia, the so—called training _ talking about russia, the so—called training exercise _ talking about russia, the so—called training exercise in _ talking about russia, the so—called training exercise in the _ talking about russia, the so—called training exercise in the sky- talking about russia, the so—called training exercise in the sky of - training exercise in the sky of belarus _ training exercise in the sky of belarus so. _ training exercise in the sky of belarus. so, yes, _ training exercise in the sky of belarus. so, yes, the - training exercise in the sky of belarus. so, yes, the eu- training exercise in the sky of belarus. so, yes, the eu is. training exercise in the sky of - belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it— belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it can _ belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it can take — belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it can take action _ belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it can take action and _ belarus. so, yes, the eu is worried, but it can take action and is indeed. but it can take action and is indeed taking _ but it can take action and is indeed taking action _ but it can take action and is indeed taking action. infe— but it can take action and is indeed taking action-— but it can take action and is indeed takin: action. ~ . , , taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind — taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind of _ taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind of and _ taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind of and to _ taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind of and to this _ taking action. we may have the seeds of some kind of and to this crisis - of some kind of and to this crisis emerging as we speak, as we sit on this programme. with a statement from them saying that this has come from them saying that this has come from a russian news agency, damian, they have spent them —— sent them
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back to their countries and also revoke permission to invite foreign workers from around 30 travel firms. now, that is good news, but on the other hand, lukashenko is already shifting the goalposts, because he's talking about making it difficult for the gas to flow into western europe this winter.— for the gas to flow into western europe this winter. yes, his debts about the gas _ europe this winter. yes, his debts about the gas supply, _ europe this winter. yes, his debts about the gas supply, this - europe this winter. yes, his debts about the gas supply, this is - europe this winter. yes, his debts about the gas supply, this is the l about the gas supply, this is the air�*s reliance on gas, coming into a cold time here, the pipelines, one of them coming there, belarus, and he was saying that if europe seeks to impose sanctions, now he may try to impose sanctions, now he may try to retaliate that way. that is a very difficult thing... bud to retaliate that way. that is a very difficult thing. . ._ to retaliate that way. that is a very difficult thing... and he has to have russia's _ very difficult thing... and he has to have russia's complicity - very difficult thing... and he has to have russia's complicity for i to have russia's complicity for that. . . . to have russia's complicity for that. ,, ., , to have russia's complicity for that. , , to have russia's complicity for that. ,, ., , ,., that. russia loses gas sales and transit prices. _ that. russia loses gas sales and transit prices. this _ that. russia loses gas sales and transit prices. this would - that. russia loses gas sales and transit prices. this would be - that. russia loses gas sales and transit prices. this would be a i transit prices. this would be a massive escalation, and this step, sending back, if this is right, sending back, if this is right, sending some people back to the middle east could be a de—escalation, but he's right, you have to think, who goes to valerie's
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normally? you don'tjust end up in belarus. it's not a route that you take to get to anywhere, really. i was having a look, the visa requirements for belarus are not simple. afghans, iraqis cannot get them to belarus. you need travel insurance and 10,000 euros. none of these people will be having that. this is clearly instrumentalized. it's being used by lukashenko, auntie have to feel for those thousands of people stuck the forest. and it's a terrible situation created for a political end. they are certainly feeling in the eu that this wouldn't be happening without the encouragement of russia behind belarus. but i think you also have to think, actually, part of the reason that alexander the pachinko would choose this is because the eu has its own mess about —— lukashenko, everyone on the borders of the eu and how to deal with that and the eu itself has
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resorted to tactics to make it incredibly difficult and unpleasant for people trying to come in as a way of trying to deter that and has its own deep divisions already. it doesn't have a system where it can bring people and easily who are in need. so you have this horrible situation that can be exploited. isabel, it sounds morally unconscionable to treat people like cattle, to herd them into the middle of nowhere to abandon then in that way, to make a political plaint. one might say, though, that the west is equally guilty about coming in i'm thinking of afghanistan with the world food programme saying this week that people are on the point of starvation, by the time they declare fan income it will be too late. the west's these seems to be we will not give any money to the taliban until they have an inclusive government, renounce terrorism, get terrorists out of the cabinet, and by the way, they give rights to girls. that's all admirable stuff, but is that really a price that the west is
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prepared to pay if it means that thousands are coming to the world food programme millions of people will starve to death, some families are already starving in their homes. i can't imagine that holding up. once _ i can't imagine that holding up. once the — i can't imagine that holding up. once the picture start arriving, look. _ once the picture start arriving, look. the — once the picture start arriving, look, the taliban are not going to agree _ look, the taliban are not going to agree to — look, the taliban are not going to agree to that set of demands, and they are _ agree to that set of demands, and they are not the most concerned with they are not the most concerned with the welfare _ they are not the most concerned with the welfare of their own people. they've — the welfare of their own people. they've got internal divisions, they've — they've got internal divisions, they've got a mini civil war starting _ they've got a mini civil war starting already, but actually, they are not— starting already, but actually, they are not going to agree to those demands— are not going to agree to those demands under coercion, and it is not the _ demands under coercion, and it is not the fault of the afghan people that they have this government. you know. _ that they have this government. you know. we _ that they have this government. you know, we have all contributed to this disaster over many, many years. and we _ this disaster over many, many years. and we cannotjust this disaster over many, many years. and we cannot just wash our hands of it now _ and we cannot just wash our hands of it now i_ and we cannot just wash our hands of it now ithink— and we cannot just wash our hands of it now. i think there has been an increasing — it now. i think there has been an increasing tendency among politicians to instrumentalized refugee — politicians to instrumentalized refugee flows by their own politics. donald _ refugee flows by their own politics. donald trump did it, creating a sense — donald trump did it, creating a sense of— donald trump did it, creating a sense of a _ donald trump did it, creating a
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sense of a national emergency on the mexican _ sense of a national emergency on the mexican border. poland has declared a national— mexican border. poland has declared a national security emergency in order— a national security emergency in order to — a national security emergency in order tojustify a national security emergency in order to justify breaking what is international humanitarian law. there _ international humanitarian law. there is — international humanitarian law. there is a — international humanitarian law. there is a lie that we are all supposed _ there is a lie that we are all supposed to subscribe to and asylum—seekers, and increasingly, governments are finding ways to leverage — governments are finding ways to leverage the misery of these people for their— leverage the misery of these people for their domestic advantage whilst not helping at all.— not helping at all. yes, the european _ not helping at all. yes, the european union, _ not helping at all. yes, the european union, when - not helping at all. yes, the. european union, when there not helping at all. yes, the - european union, when there was a pledging round for help afghanistan promised i pledging round for help afghanistan promised 1 billion euros in october. around a third of that had actually already been promised before, still welcome money. and much of what is left behind will go to supporting the neighbours of afghanistan because at least you can spend the money there without it being given to the taliban. again, it leaves the problem at the heart of this, doesn't it?— problem at the heart of this, doesn't it? . ., , ., , ., ., ,, doesn't it? afghanistan is a mass, and we weren't _ doesn't it? afghanistan is a mass, and we weren't even _ doesn't it? afghanistan is a mass, and we weren't even consulted - doesn't it? afghanistan is a mass, and we weren't even consulted by| doesn't it? afghanistan is a mass, . and we weren't even consulted by our american _
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and we weren't even consulted by our american ally— and we weren't even consulted by our american ally about _ and we weren't even consulted by our american ally about their— american ally about their withdrawal. _ american ally about their withdrawal. but - american ally about their withdrawal. but to - american ally about their withdrawal. but to go - american ally about their. withdrawal. but to go back american ally about their- withdrawal. but to go back on another— withdrawal. but to go back on another migrant— withdrawal. but to go back on another migrant at _ withdrawal. but to go back on another migrant at the - withdrawal. but to go back on another migrant at the border withdrawal. but to go back on - another migrant at the border with poland _ another migrant at the border with poland and — another migrant at the border with poland and belarus, _ another migrant at the border with poland and belarus, it'5 _ poland and belarus, it's interesting, _ poland and belarus, it's interesting, because - poland and belarus, it'5 - interesting, because poland could actually— interesting, because poland could actually fulfil _ interesting, because poland could actually fulfil its _ interesting, because poland could actually fulfil its moral— actually fulfil its moral obligations, _ actually fulfil its moral obligations, and - actually fulfil its moral. obligations, and germany actually fulfil its moral— obligations, and germany probably or italy who _ obligations, and germany probably or italy who acted — obligations, and germany probably or italy who acted admirably _ obligations, and germany probably or italy who acted admirably in - obligations, and germany probably or italy who acted admirably in the - italy who acted admirably in the last few— italy who acted admirably in the last few years _ italy who acted admirably in the last few years with _ italy who acted admirably in the last few years with migraines i italy who acted admirably in the last few years with migraines ofj italy who acted admirably in the i last few years with migraines of all kinds. _ last few years with migraines of all kinds, whether— last few years with migraines of all kinds, whether they— last few years with migraines of all kinds, whether they are _ last few years with migraines of all kinds, whether they are economicl kinds, whether they are economic migrants — kinds, whether they are economic migrants are _ kinds, whether they are economic migrants are refugees. _ kinds, whether they are economic migrants are refugees. they - kinds, whether they are economicj migrants are refugees. they could process— migrants are refugees. they could process at— migrants are refugees. they could process at least _ migrants are refugees. they could process at least some _ migrants are refugees. they could process at least some of - migrants are refugees. they could process at least some of them, i migrants are refugees. they could. process at least some of them, and suddenly— process at least some of them, and suddenly let — process at least some of them, and suddenly let doctors _ process at least some of them, and suddenly let doctors left _ process at least some of them, and suddenly let doctors left after - suddenly let doctors left after those — suddenly let doctors left after those people _ suddenly let doctors left after those people who _ suddenly let doctors left after those people who apparentlyl suddenly let doctors left after i those people who apparently at suddenly let doctors left after - those people who apparently at least half of _ those people who apparently at least half of them — those people who apparently at least half of them need _ those people who apparently at least half of them need medical— half of them need medical assistance. _ half of them need medical assistance. and _ half of them need medical assistance. and that - half of them need medical assistance. and that is- half of them need medical. assistance. and that is also half of them need medical- a55i5tance. and that is also work. assistance. and that is also work. some _ assistance. and that is also work. some hardware, _ a55i5tance. and that is also work. some hardware, but— assistance. and that is also work. some hardware, but that - assistance. and that is also work. some hardware, but that needs. assistance. and that is also work. | some hardware, but that needs to assistance. and that is also work. - some hardware, but that needs to be done by— some hardware, but that needs to be done by the _ some hardware, but that needs to be done bythe eu— some hardware, but that needs to be done by the eu and _ some hardware, but that needs to be done by the eu and to _ some hardware, but that needs to be done by the eu and to convince - done by the eu and to convince the british— done by the eu and to convince the british government _ done by the eu and to convince the british government to _ done by the eu and to convince the british government to also - done by the eu and to convince the british government to also do - done by the eu and to convince the
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british government to also do its . british government to also do its duties— british government to also do its duties and — british government to also do its duties and to _ british government to also do its duties and to stop, _ british government to also do its duties and to stop, you - british government to also do its duties and to stop, you know, i duties and to stop, you know, reacting — duties and to stop, you know, reacting affects _ duties and to stop, you know, reacting affects a _ duties and to stop, you know, reacting affects a war. - duties and to stop, you know, reacting affects a war. it's - duties and to stop, you know, reacting affects a war. it's not duties and to stop, you know, i reacting affects a war. it's not a war _ reacting affects a war. it's not a war there _ reacting affects a war. it's not a war there is— reacting affects a war. it's not a war. there is a _ reacting affects a war. it's not a war. there is a political- reacting affects a war. it's not a i war. there is a political situation there. _ war. there is a political situation there. and — war. there is a political situation there, and those _ war. there is a political situation there, and those people - war. there is a political situation there, and those people need i war. there is a political situation. there, and those people need some assistance — there, and those people need some assistance. . .. there, and those people need some assistance. . ~' , ., there, and those people need some assistance. ., ,, , ., ., , . borisjohnson has been doing his grand old duke of york impersonation marching his mps to the top of the hill, only to march them down again. the cause: one of his backbenchers who was facing suspension from the house of commons. mrjohnson's mps were whipped to vote against suspending him, in favour of a review of the system. within days, mrjohnson had reversed himself, the accused mp had quit, and the poor bloody infantry were asking who's whispering in the duke's ear? i wonder what the answer is to that question, damian. is there a problem that the prime minister is currently listening to?— listening to? well, something so. certainly he _ listening to? well, something so. certainly he got — listening to? well, something so. certainly he got himself— listening to? well, something so. certainly he got himself in - listening to? well, something so. certainly he got himself in the - listening to? well, something so. i certainly he got himself in the mess in the past week over this issue. sleaze, some people collect. international viewers explained that
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thatis international viewers explained that that is morally dubious or even corrupt goings—on by mps, it's shown ample light on that. you have one empty found to have broken the rules. borisjohnson cites to, well, he commanded all his mps to vote in a way that would have stopped sanctions against that individual. and possibly blowing up the whole system which caused a huge fury. why did he do that crazy date net? well, there are many theories out there, who is he listening to? friends of the np, was this because it was a former cabinet minister? was it because there were a sympathies for hand? was it an attempt to blow up the whole system? all of those questions, many people think yes, what borisjohnson lacks is someone in there who can say to him, this is a bad idea, stop. don't do this now. but, what it's caused is a lot of follow—up and a lot of disquiet amongst his own party as well. interesting —— interestingly, as we
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have been taking over the details today, taking over the details of british mps, what they earn, where the income comes from, is it all justified? how are the expenses that they are claiming? it's uncomfortable for mps, but it's turned a spotlight on that, and it's because disquiet in his own party that this is part of the results. isabel, he worked as a journalist during the 1990s. you will have very vivid memories of sleaze. why should borisjohnson be wary vivid memories of sleaze. why should boris johnson be wary that this particular where it is back in the political again?— particular where it is back in the political again? well, the last time around, it political again? well, the last time around. it was _ political again? well, the last time around, it was truly _ political again? well, the last time around, it was truly toxic. - political again? well, the last time| around, it was truly toxic. although not only— around, it was truly toxic. although not only for— around, it was truly toxic. although not only for the tories, it was a slightly— not only for the tories, it was a slightly different scandal, it was exposed — slightly different scandal, it was exposed by an investigative journalist through the freedom of information which parliament had tried to _ information which parliament had tried to resist, and it was all about— tried to resist, and it was all about expenses. so, it was discovered, i mean, the shocking over— discovered, i mean, the shocking over claiming, fiddling of the rules. — over claiming, fiddling of the rules, you know, just on an
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absolutely massive scale, so a lot of tory _ absolutely massive scale, so a lot of tory mp5, but also labour, liberal— of tory mp5, but also labour, liberal bands, some famous names, several— liberal bands, some famous names, several of— liberal bands, some famous names, several of them were prosecuted for false accounting and went to jail. oh, false accounting and went to jail. oh. and — false accounting and went to jail. oh, and guess who prosecuted them? it oh, and guess who prosecuted them? it was _ oh, and guess who prosecuted them? it was keira _ oh, and guess who prosecuted them? it was keira starmer who has been in thatjob _ it was keira starmer who has been in thatjob. and they it was keira starmer who has been in that job. and they went on it was keira starmer who has been in thatjob. and they went on and on. that's— thatjob. and they went on and on. that's kier— thatjob. and they went on and on. that's kier starmer. the really colourful case included a claim for a floating — colourful case included a claim for a floating dock house on the lake of the np— a floating dock house on the lake of the np i_ a floating dock house on the lake of the np i think it was, i tory mp who had to— the np i think it was, i tory mp who had to be _ the np i think it was, i tory mp who had to be signed, so lots of people lost their seats and have to pay money — lost their seats and have to pay money back. it's on a slightly different. _ money back. it's on a slightly different, and i think what it has in common— different, and i think what it has in common is that once that when it started to _ in common is that once that when it started to roll it went on and on and on — started to roll it went on and on and on and _ started to roll it went on and on and on and really ruin the reputation of parliament. i think that the — reputation of parliament. i think that the sun has tremendous potential. but it is different. this is about— potential. but it is different. this is about using the state and contracts— is about using the state and contracts to enrich friends of the
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party _ contracts to enrich friends of the party so— contracts to enrich friends of the party. so it's dirty money and politics— party. so it's dirty money and politics and it's about politics doing — politics and it's about politics doing dirty things with state money for private — doing dirty things with state money for private gain. that's really toxic — for private gain. that's really toxic. and, look, if you look at the cobit— toxic. and, look, if you look at the cobit contracts and what we already know. _ cobit contracts and what we already know. i_ cobit contracts and what we already know, i think there is a lot of rich material— know, i think there is a lot of rich material there.— know, i think there is a lot of rich material there. materialthere. isabel, agnes, some brief last words, _ materialthere. isabel, agnes, some brief last words, about _ materialthere. isabel, agnes, some brief last words, about ten _ materialthere. isabel, agnes, some brief last words, about ten seconds, | brief last words, about ten seconds, will this run and run? i brief last words, about ten seconds, will this run and run?— will this run and run? i think that the damage _ will this run and run? i think that the damage is — will this run and run? i think that the damage is really not - will this run and run? i think that the damage is really not so - will this run and run? i think that| the damage is really not so much sleaze. _ the damage is really not so much sleaze. not — the damage is really not so much sleaze. not so _ the damage is really not so much sleaze, not so much _ the damage is really not so much sleaze, not so much reported, i the damage is really not so muchl sleaze, not so much reported, for instance. — sleaze, not so much reported, for instance. but— sleaze, not so much reported, for instance, but breaking _ sleaze, not so much reported, for. instance, but breaking international law instance, but breaking international la . , ., ., instance, but breaking international law agnes, we will have to leave it there. law agnes, we will have to leave it there- you — law agnes, we will have to leave it there. you have _ law agnes, we will have to leave it there. you have made _ law agnes, we will have to leave it there. you have made your - law agnes, we will have to leave it there. you have made your point i law agnes, we will have to leave it i there. you have made your point very well. agnes, damian isabel, thank you all very much. bye—bye.
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good evening. it's been quite a breezy day out there today. outbreaks of rain for many of us, and also still mild for the time of year. but those stronger winds brought some big waves to the coast — this was aberystwyth a little bit earlier on. the winds are now tending to ease, and things look a bit quieter through the course of the weekend as low pressures clears away. still very mild for the time of year and mainly dry on both saturday and sunday, too. here's the low pressure that brought the showery rain at times today, and the breeze, as well, which is clearing off towards the east. as it does so, then higher pressure will start to build in from the west. so still a few splashes of rain overnight for eastern scotland, some central, southern and eastern parts of england, as well. but most places dry, some clearer spells for southwest scotland into northwest england — and it's here that temperatures will fall down into mid—single figures. but most of us remain
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in double figures — so a frost—free, mild, if somewhat cloudy start to your weekend. so saturday then, still quite a breeze around the east coast, perhaps a few spots of rain for the likes of aberdeenshire, east anglia, and the far southeast, too, and we've also got a bit more cloud working in for southwest england, wales, and northern ireland. but, in between these two areas of cloud, some sunshine through central scotland, northwest england, and the midlands right down towards the likes of the isle of wight. temperatures 10—15 celsius — so at least 3—4 degrees above average. so as we move through saturday night now and on into sunday, we've got high pressure not far away sitting both to the southwest and to the east of the uk. so this approaching weather front bumps into all that high pressure that's around. it doesn't make inroads too quickly for remembrance sunday, a lot of dry weather on sunday. a bit of sunshine breaking through the cloud, but generally a fairly cloudy picture for many of us, but light winds and very mild, as well, so quite a pleasant day with temperatures between 10—14 celsius. we have got that rain arriving in the northwest later on. so, as we head through remembrance sunday night and on into monday, that weather front pushes a bit further south, but it fizzles out as it does so.
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could bring a few splashes of rain monday morning to southern scotland, perhaps northern england, as well. a return to some sunshine for northern ireland and scotland, the north of that front stays a bit further cloudier south and east. still reasonably mild, 10—14 celsius as we head through monday afternoon. so certainly mild and settled for the next few days. things do turn a little bit cooler and more unsettled into the middle of this coming week. that's it for now, bye—bye.
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