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what is happening in the you updated. now it's time for a look at the weather with sarah keith—lucas. it has been very mild for much of november so far but through this weekend things are turning colder particularly by the time we get to tomorrow and that is down to the fact we have got whether from slipping south introducing blue colours, cold air mass and chilly northerly winds. the rest of today, there are dry and mild weather for much of england and wales, of drizzle in the south and some patchy rain in northern england and north wales later on the temperature up to 11 and 12 degrees. scotland and northern ireland into the afternoon getting brighter and some scattered blustery showers. some heavy showers overnight and some scattered blustery showers. some heavy showers overnight in northern scotland, following a snow over the highest ground. temperature isjust about remaining above freezing and most of our times and cities but a touch below for some rubble spot on a chilly start tomorrow then we got today were that cold breeze winning further wintry showers the high
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ground of scotland in rain chose to easterly england. top temperatures around about 7—11 . goodbye. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines — anger in the netherlands over new covid restrictions. dutch police have shot and wounded at least two people during rioting, as coronavirus infection rates rise across europe. on several occasions, the police officers had to draw their weapons to defend themselves. some aimed shots were fired, and people got hurt as a result. meanwhile, in australia, rallies and protests against lockdowns and vaccine mandates have taken place across the country. joe biden says he's angry after a teenager who shot two people dead during racial unrest is cleared of murder. protests took place in new york
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following the divisive verdict. the president says it should be respected. i stand by what the jury has concluded. thejury i stand by what the jury has concluded. the jury system works and we have to abide by it. the women's tennis association threatens to pull out of china, as pressure grows over missing tennis star peng shuai. a record number of people died while detained under the mental health act in england during the first year of the pandemic, according to new figures from the health watchdog. now on bbc news, it's time for dateline london with shaun ley. hello, welcome to the programme which brings together leading uk commentators with the international
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correspondents who write, blog and broadcast to audiences at home from the dateline london. this week, the business of people smuggling to europe, russia's gas—powered foreign policy, and is being a british mp a full—timejob? to discuss that, we are joined byjeffrey kofman, who has been a news anchor and foreign correspondent for broadcasters in his native canada and in the united states, mark roche, who writes for the french political and news weekly le point, and british political commentator steve richards, who is here in the studio. welcome to all of you. it's lovely to see you again. exit allowed the uk to take back control of, among other things, its borders. —— brexit. but this government has proved no more successful than its predecessors in stopping illegal migration. the problem even be getting worse. on a single day last week, 1185 people risky pedals crossing in small boats from france to the east coast of england. the mystery is how they get into the schengen zone in the first
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place, eu countries between which you can travel without passport checks. with no effective means of stopping the exploitative trade in people smuggling, an australian style solution is now under consideration, transferring them for processing to albania on the other side of europe, and at no small expense. marc, how are the migrants who end up in and around calais in france are thought to be getting there? it france are thought to be getting there? , , ., _ france are thought to be getting there? , , , , there? it is very easy because reall , there? it is very easy because really. the — there? it is very easy because really, the point _ there? it is very easy because really, the point of _ there? it is very easy because really, the point of the - there? it is very easy because really, the point of the single| really, the point of the single market is free movement of people, so once you go in, you can go anywhere. so you arrive in cali because it is closest to britain, it will want to go to britain because that you have family there, because they speak english, because with brexit and global britain, they think the roads are paved with gold.
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on the problem is not a french problem, it is a british problem, and i think that for britain to solve that problem, they have to welcome them, that is a moral duty. the french cannot do anything. they do their best, but the fact is that the british have not even bid for the british have not even bid for the french policy. you the british have not even bid for the french policy.— the british have not even bid for the french policy. you said once the french policy. you said once the net the french policy. you said once they get into — the french policy. you said once they get into the _ the french policy. you said once they get into the schengen - the french policy. you said once | they get into the schengen zone, the french policy. you said once - they get into the schengen zone, but it doesn't answer the question of how they get in on the first place, because they are not documented to get into any of the schengen countries. get into any of the schengen countries-— get into any of the schengen countries. ., ~' ., , ., countries. you know very well that the schengen _ countries. you know very well that the schengen countries _ countries. you know very well that the schengen countries are - countries. you know very well that the schengen countries are quite l the schengen countries are quite permeable to people coming in. you go through greece or poland or italy, it is very easy for people to get in. the problem is they do not want to stay in the eu, and also there is no country wants to welcome them in the present climate between
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coronavirus and extreme right wing, so it is up to the british government to solve that problem, not the eu. government to solve that problem, not the eu-— not the eu. steve, the people smugglers — not the eu. steve, the people smugglers seem _ not the eu. steve, the people smugglers seem to _ not the eu. steve, the people smugglers seem to have - not the eu. steve, the people - smugglers seem to have outfoxed not just this government but a succession of previous governments. could out of country processing be a game changer? i could out of country processing be a game changer?— game changer? i doubt it. this has alwa s game changer? i doubt it. this has always been _ game changer? i doubt it. this has always been an _ game changer? i doubt it. this has always been an option. _ game changer? i doubt it. this has always been an option. i _ always been an option. i remember when _ always been an option. i remember when michael howard was leader of the conservative party in opposition, he came up with the idea of an— opposition, he came up with the idea of an island _ opposition, he came up with the idea of an island where this process could _ of an island where this process could take place.— could take place. early in the century. _ could take place. early in the century, this? _ could take place. early in the century, this? yes. - could take place. early in the century, this? yes. and - could take place. early in thej century, this? yes. and tony could take place. early in the - century, this? yes. and tony blair, who was pretty _ century, this? yes. and tony blair, who was pretty defensive _ century, this? yes. and tony blair, who was pretty defensive on - century, this? yes. and tony blair, who was pretty defensive on this i century, this? yes. and tony blair, i who was pretty defensive on this and wary of— who was pretty defensive on this and wary of taking on the conservatives over this _ wary of taking on the conservatives over this issue, said, wary of taking on the conservatives overthis issue, said, why wary of taking on the conservatives over this issue, said, why is this island? — over this issue, said, why is this island? and _ over this issue, said, why is this island? and it could not be specified. now we have had about albania. _ specified. now we have had about albania, but we have also heard about _ albania, but we have also heard about senior figures in albania saying — about senior figures in albania saying they are not going to do this, _ saying they are not going to do this, so— saying they are not going to do this, so this has been a kind of constant — this, so this has been a kind of constant thing that there would be a fantastic— constant thing that there would be a fantastic place where they could all gather— fantastic place where they could all gather and be processed, so i doubt
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whether— gather and be processed, so i doubt whether that would be a solution. but when — whether that would be a solution. but when you look at australia, they had about 20,000 people a year coming in. the year after they did this off country on some pretty grim islands, it has to be said, and the pacific, the numbers of people came down to 160. presumably a few people smugglers. being able to deliver their contract, getting you to the coast of britain, then people would stop giving them the money. yeah, but where is _ stop giving them the money. yeah, but where is this _ stop giving them the money. yeah, but where is this equivalent - stop giving them the money. yeah, j but where is this equivalent island? in but where is this equivalent island? in other— but where is this equivalent island? in other words, pointing out albania is still a country connected to europe. is still a country connected to euro e. .. , is still a country connected to euroe. , ., ., , europe. exactly. one of many interesting — europe. exactly. one of many interesting issues _ europe. exactly. one of many interesting issues raised - europe. exactly. one of many interesting issues raised by i europe. exactly. one of many i interesting issues raised by this europe. exactly. one of many - interesting issues raised by this is that the _ interesting issues raised by this is that the key relationship for britain _ that the key relationship for britain is actually not america, it is with— britain is actually not america, it is with france, and it is disastrous at the _ is with france, and it is disastrous at the moment for the relationship, but this— at the moment for the relationship, but this is— at the moment for the relationship, but this is the geographical neighbour to the uk. this is the country— neighbour to the uk. this is the country with many common interests
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in terms _ country with many common interests in terms of— country with many common interests in terms of security, similar size, economy, — in terms of security, similar size, economy, etc. and yet the way through— economy, etc. and yet the way through this is to engage with france — through this is to engage with france. so it is very unfashionable to say— france. so it is very unfashionable to say it. — france. so it is very unfashionable to say it. but _ france. so it is very unfashionable to say it, but just trying to score points _ to say it, but just trying to score points against france, and vice versa, _ points against france, and vice versa. for— points against france, and vice versa, for political, electoral purposes. _ versa, for political, electoral purposes, is crazy. it is in britain's _ purposes, is crazy. it is in britain's interests to have a good relationship with france, and that is not _ relationship with france, and that is not a _ relationship with france, and that is not a specified solution, but i think— is not a specified solution, but i think without that, there will be no solution _ think without that, there will be no solution. , ' , ., solution. jeffrey, priti patel, the home secretary, _ solution. jeffrey, priti patel, the home secretary, she _ solution. jeffrey, priti patel, the home secretary, she is - solution. jeffrey, priti patel, the home secretary, she is in - solution. jeffrey, priti patel, the - home secretary, she is in washington at the moment, she had a meeting with her us opposite number, there is clearly common ground on this concern about migration and border control. whether people are coming from central america to try to get into the united states or they are coming from the middle east and africa to try to get into the uk or
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other parts of europe indeed, it costs them money. there is a real debate about how people are paying for this, debate about how people are paying forthis, is debate about how people are paying for this, is itjust remittances from relatives who already live in the country sending money back home? are they selling everything they have to try to get in? how is this trade being financed? that have to try to get in? how is this trade being financed?— trade being financed? that is a really interesting _ trade being financed? that is a really interesting question, - trade being financed? that is a | really interesting question, and trade being financed? that is a . really interesting question, and so far we _ really interesting question, and so far we do— really interesting question, and so far we do not— really interesting question, and so far we do not have _ really interesting question, and so far we do not have a _ really interesting question, and so far we do not have a clear- really interesting question, and so far we do not have a clear answer. but there — far we do not have a clear answer. but there are _ far we do not have a clear answer. but there are some _ but there are some patterns happening, _ but there are some patterns happening, and _ but there are some patterns happening, and anticipatingl but there are some patterns - happening, and anticipating what i think will— happening, and anticipating what i think will be — happening, and anticipating what i think will be our— happening, and anticipating what i think will be our next _ happening, and anticipating what ll think will be our next conversation, if you _ think will be our next conversation, if you look— think will be our next conversation, if you look at — think will be our next conversation, if you look at what _ think will be our next conversation, if you look at what is _ think will be our next conversation, if you look at what is happening - think will be our next conversation, if you look at what is happening on| if you look at what is happening on the belarus — if you look at what is happening on the belarus poland _ if you look at what is happening on the belarus poland border- if you look at what is happening on the belarus poland border with - the belarus poland border with migrants, _ the belarus poland border with migrants, there— the belarus poland border with migrants, there are _ the belarus poland border with migrants, there are not - the belarus poland border with migrants, there are notjust. migrants, there are notjust fingerprints— migrants, there are notjust fingerprints of— migrants, there are notjust fingerprints of alexander i fingerprints of alexander lukashenko, _ fingerprints of alexander lukashenko, the - fingerprints of alexander lukashenko, the dictator fingerprints of alexander. lukashenko, the dictator of fingerprints of alexander _ lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this— lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this crisis. — lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this crisis, but _ lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this crisis, but also _ lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this crisis, but also a _ lukashenko, the dictator of belarus, on this crisis, but also a direct - on this crisis, but also a direct link— on this crisis, but also a direct link to— on this crisis, but also a direct link to vladimir— on this crisis, but also a direct link to vladimir putin. - on this crisis, but also a direct link to vladimir putin. putin . on this crisis, but also a direct - link to vladimir putin. putin knows how stabilising _ link to vladimir putin. putin knows how stabilising the _ link to vladimir putin. putin knows how stabilising the imagined - link to vladimir putin. putin knows how stabilising the imagined issue| how stabilising the imagined issue is, he _ how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought— how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought in— how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought in 2016, _ how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought in 2016, it— how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought in 2016, it was- how stabilising the imagined issue is, he sought in 2016, it was onlyl is, he sought in 2016, it was only one of— is, he sought in 2016, it was only one of the — is, he sought in 2016, it was only one of the biggest _ is, he sought in 2016, it was only one of the biggest issues- is, he sought in 2016, it was only one of the biggest issues that. one of the biggest issues that led to the _
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one of the biggest issues that led to the vote — one of the biggest issues that led to the vote in _ one of the biggest issues that led to the vote in favour _ one of the biggest issues that led to the vote in favour of _ one of the biggest issues that led to the vote in favour of brexit - to the vote in favour of brexit here — to the vote in favour of brexit here it — to the vote in favour of brexit here it is _ to the vote in favour of brexit here, it is fair— to the vote in favour of brexit here, it is fair to— to the vote in favour of brexit here, it is fair to ask, - to the vote in favour of brexit here, it is fair to ask, is - to the vote in favour of brexit here, it is fair to ask, is this i here, it is fair to ask, is this just— here, it is fair to ask, is this just happening _ here, it is fair to ask, is this just happening randomly, . here, it is fair to ask, is this. just happening randomly, are here, it is fair to ask, is this - just happening randomly, are people 'ust just happening randomly, are people just selling _ just happening randomly, are people just selling their— just happening randomly, are people just selling their homes _ just happening randomly, are people just selling their homes and - just selling their homes and surgeon _ just selling their homes and surgeon or— just selling their homes and surgeon, or is— just selling their homes and surgeon, or is somebody. just selling their homes and - surgeon, or is somebody pulling the strings? _ surgeon, or is somebody pulling the strings? but— surgeon, or is somebody pulling the strings? but also _ surgeon, or is somebody pulling the strings? but also around _ surgeon, or is somebody pulling the strings? but also around brexit, - surgeon, or is somebody pulling thel strings? but also around brexit, how was taking _ strings? but also around brexit, how was taking back _ strings? but also around brexit, how was taking back the _ strings? but also around brexit, how was taking back the border _ strings? but also around brexit, how was taking back the border is - strings? but also around brexit, how was taking back the border is going, | was taking back the border is going, mr farage — was taking back the border is going, mr farage mr— was taking back the border is going, mr farage, mrjohnson? _ was taking back the border is going, mr farage, mrjohnson? the - was taking back the border is going, . mr farage, mrjohnson? the premises were inflated, — mr farage, mrjohnson? the premises were inflated, it— mr farage, mrjohnson? the premises were inflated, it is— mr farage, mrjohnson? the premises were inflated, it is clearly— mr farage, mrjohnson? the premises were inflated, it is clearly not - were inflated, it is clearly not something _ were inflated, it is clearly not something that _ were inflated, it is clearly not something that can _ were inflated, it is clearly not something that can be - were inflated, it is clearly not something that can be solved were inflated, it is clearly not - something that can be solved easily, and frankly, — something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm _ something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm not _ something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm not sure _ something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm not sure it _ something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm not sure it can- something that can be solved easily, and frankly, i'm not sure it can be i and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved _ and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved at— and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved at all— and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved at all until— and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved at all until you _ and frankly, i'm not sure it can be solved at all until you can - solved at all until you can figure out how— solved at all until you can figure out how these _ solved at all until you can figure out how these people _ solved at all until you can figure out how these people are - solved at all until you can figure. out how these people are getting here and — out how these people are getting here and somehow— out how these people are getting here and somehow discourage i out how these people are getting here and somehow discourage it. out how these people are getting - here and somehow discourage it. but somehow— here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that— here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that is— here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that is not _ here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that is not going _ here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that is not going to - here and somehow discourage it. but somehow that is not going to happenj somehow that is not going to happen easily _ somehow that is not going to happen easily look— somehow that is not going to happen easily lookat— somehow that is not going to happen easily. look at the _ somehow that is not going to happen easily. look at the us, _ somehow that is not going to happen easily. look at the us, it _ somehow that is not going to happen easily. look at the us, it is _ somehow that is not going to happen easily. look at the us, it is a - easily. look at the us, it is a constant _ easily. look at the us, it is a constant flow. _ easily. look at the us, it is a constant flow.— constant flow. people will recall that ou constant flow. people will recall that you were — constant flow. people will recall that you were a _ constant flow. people will recall that you were a brexit - constant flow. people will recall that you were a brexit sceptic, l constant flow. people will recall i that you were a brexit sceptic, and steve was as well. marc was that
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very unusual thing, a european anglophile. as somebody who supported brexit, how would you respond to that? i supported brexit, how would you respond to that?— respond to that? i support brexit because i thought _ respond to that? i support brexit because i thought that _ respond to that? i support brexit because i thought that was - respond to that? i support brexit because i thought that was the l because i thought that was the wish of the british people, and i was right in that way, but i never supported the mess that was coming next. it is quite clear that the europeans who left will be replaced by non—europeans, because of the british government does not want non—europeans. so brexit failure is there. the fact that they are not ready to open the frontier to replace the europeans who left, and many of them did, as we see now, and to welcome other people in europe. she was said to welcome non—europeans. but they don't seem to want the non—europeans. one of
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the important things to go with steve, it is essential that the british are working with the french, because for france it is a disaster, the situation. on the one hand, immigration is top of the agenda because of all the calais mess. the presidential election, more than 50%, two candidates of the extreme right and the hard right, more than 50% in the polls is against immigration. the french have their own battle against illegal immigration from a mostly northern and western africa.— immigration from a mostly northern and western africa. marc, thank you very much- — and western africa. marc, thank you very much- it _ and western africa. marc, thank you very much. it would _ and western africa. marc, thank you very much. it would be _ and western africa. marc, thank you very much. it would be a _ very much. it would be a tragic mistake, the british prime minister observed this week, if russia embarked on what it called military adventurism on the borders of poland and ukraine. why would president
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putin take the risk? after all, the use of migrants as pawns on one external border of the european union, poland's, and the threats of gas supplies to bind moldova and ukraine closer, seems to be selling him pretty well. jeffrey, what exactly do you think vladimir putin's strategies?— exactly do you think vladimir putin's strategies? vladimir putin has a habit of— putin's strategies? vladimir putin has a habit of poking _ putin's strategies? vladimir putin has a habit of poking the - putin's strategies? vladimir putin has a habit of poking the west, i has a habit of poking the west, destabilising _ has a habit of poking the west, destabilising at _ has a habit of poking the west, destabilising at every - has a habit of poking the west, i destabilising at every opportunity he can _ destabilising at every opportunity he can we — destabilising at every opportunity he can, we have _ destabilising at every opportunity he can, we have seen _ destabilising at every opportunity he can, we have seen it- destabilising at every opportunity he can, we have seen it with - destabilising at every opportunityl he can, we have seen it with cyber wars: _ he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we — he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we have _ he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we have seen— he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we have seen it _ he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we have seen it with- he can, we have seen it with cyber wars, we have seen it with the - wars, we have seen it with the annexation _ wars, we have seen it with the annexation of _ wars, we have seen it with the annexation of crimea - wars, we have seen it with the annexation of crimea in - wars, we have seen it with the annexation of crimea in 2014,| wars, we have seen it with the i annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion— annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion of— annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion of ukraine, _ annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion of ukraine, this- annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion of ukraine, this is- annexation of crimea in 2014, the invasion of ukraine, this is a - invasion of ukraine, this is a pa rticuia riy _ invasion of ukraine, this is a particularly vulnerable - invasion of ukraine, this is a particularly vulnerable time i invasion of ukraine, this is a i particularly vulnerable time in europe — particularly vulnerable time in europe and _ particularly vulnerable time in europe and the _ particularly vulnerable time in europe and the west. - particularly vulnerable time in europe and the west. angelal particularly vulnerable time in - europe and the west. angela merkel is handing _ europe and the west. angela merkel is handing over— europe and the west. angela merkel is handing over power, _ europe and the west. angela merkel is handing over power, france - europe and the west. angela merkel is handing over power, france is- is handing over power, france is heading — is handing over power, france is heading into— is handing over power, france is heading into an _ is handing over power, france is heading into an election, - is handing over power, france is heading into an election, joe - is handing over power, france is. heading into an election, joe biden is yet _ heading into an election, joe biden is yet to— heading into an election, joe biden is yet to assert _ heading into an election, joe biden is yet to assert a _ heading into an election, joe biden is yet to assert a russia _ heading into an election, joe biden is yet to assert a russia doctrine i is yet to assert a russia doctrine which _ is yet to assert a russia doctrine which shows— is yet to assert a russia doctrine which shows where _ is yet to assert a russia doctrine which shows where he _ is yet to assert a russia doctrine which shows where he stands. i is yet to assert a russia doctrine . which shows where he stands. putin is having _ which shows where he stands. putin is having a _ which shows where he stands. putin is having a lot — which shows where he stands. putin is having a lot of _ which shows where he stands. putin is having a lot of fun— which shows where he stands. putin is having a lot of fun testing - which shows where he stands. putin is having a lot of fun testing and - is having a lot of fun testing and pushing — is having a lot of fun testing and pushing and _ is having a lot of fun testing and pushing and conspiring, - is having a lot of fun testing and pushing and conspiring, and - is having a lot of fun testing and j pushing and conspiring, and this is having a lot of fun testing and i pushing and conspiring, and this is what _ pushing and conspiring, and this is what he _ pushing and conspiring, and this is what he does — pushing and conspiring, and this is what he does well. _
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pushing and conspiring, and this is what he does well. he _ pushing and conspiring, and this is what he does well. he still- pushing and conspiring, and this is what he does well. he still feels, i what he does well. he still feels, as do— what he does well. he still feels, as do a _ what he does well. he still feels, as do a lot — what he does well. he still feels, as do a lot of— what he does well. he still feels, as do a lot of russians _ what he does well. he still feels, as do a lot of russians of- what he does well. he still feels, as do a lot of russians of his - as do a lot of russians of his generation _ as do a lot of russians of his generation a _ as do a lot of russians of his generation, a sense - as do a lot of russians of his generation, a sense of- as do a lot of russians of his - generation, a sense of bitterness about— generation, a sense of bitterness about the — generation, a sense of bitterness about the break—up _ generation, a sense of bitterness about the break—up of _ generation, a sense of bitterness about the break—up of the - generation, a sense of bitterness about the break—up of the sovietl about the break—up of the soviet union _ about the break—up of the soviet union the — about the break—up of the soviet union, the annexation _ about the break—up of the soviet union, the annexation of- about the break—up of the soviet union, the annexation of former| union, the annexation of former soviet— union, the annexation of former soviet states _ union, the annexation of former soviet states into _ union, the annexation of former soviet states into nato, - union, the annexation of former soviet states into nato, and - union, the annexation of formerj soviet states into nato, and this union, the annexation of former. soviet states into nato, and this is 'ust soviet states into nato, and this is just that _ soviet states into nato, and this is just that continued _ soviet states into nato, and this is just that continued poking, - soviet states into nato, and this isj just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking. — just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking, testing _ just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking, testing of— just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking, testing of nato - just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking, testing of nato and - just that continued poking, ribbon, provoking, testing of nato and of. provoking, testing of nato and of the west — provoking, testing of nato and of the west. . provoking, testing of nato and of the west. ,, ., ., the west. steve, we have from president _ the west. steve, we have from president lukashenko - the west. steve, we have from president lukashenko of- the west. steve, we have from i president lukashenko of belarus the west. steve, we have from - president lukashenko of belarus at last on friday, and he basically said i did not invite these migrants, but it is absolutely possible my trips were helping them over the border or trying to get over the border or trying to get over the border into poland. the fact is it is now a humanitarian tragedy that is unfolding, and the poles don't seem to be helping very much because they are banning ngos, banning people from providing health care. they are basically saying you cannot come and see what is going on here. is there a danger that the eu could end up looking like a villain in this? ~ _, ., , .,
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in this? well, the eu, contrary to some of the _ in this? well, the eu, contrary to some of the mythologies, - in this? well, the eu, contrary to some of the mythologies, we - in this? well, the eu, contrary to l some of the mythologies, we won't in this? well, the eu, contrary to - some of the mythologies, we won't go into brexit _ some of the mythologies, we won't go into brexit again, but contrary to some _ into brexit again, but contrary to some of— into brexit again, but contrary to some of the mythologies in the build-up— some of the mythologies in the build—up to that referendum, has fairly— build—up to that referendum, has fairly limited autonomous power. so the eu _ fairly limited autonomous power. so the eu does not have a collective foreign _ the eu does not have a collective foreign policy. that's why britain could _ foreign policy. that's why britain could back— foreign policy. that's why britain could back the war in iraq and france — could back the war in iraq and france and _ could back the war in iraq and france and germany did not. but this is effectively — france and germany did not. but this is effectively ending _ france and germany did not. but this is effectively ending up _ france and germany did not. but this is effectively ending up as _ france and germany did not. but this is effectively ending up as one - is effectively ending up as one of its member states, what it is doing on its border, and it reflects on all europeans.— on its border, and it reflects on all europeans. indeed, they will have to work — all europeans. indeed, they will have to work out _ all europeans. indeed, they will have to work out what - all europeans. indeed, they will have to work out what to - all europeans. indeed, they will have to work out what to do - all europeans. indeed, they will i have to work out what to do about it. have to work out what to do about it but _ have to work out what to do about it but the — have to work out what to do about it. but the point i was making in a way as— it. but the point i was making in a way as the — it. but the point i was making in a way as the mechanisms, when there is an internal— way as the mechanisms, when there is an internal crisis, you see a humanitarian crisis now, in one of its countries, _ humanitarian crisis now, in one of its countries, is not wholly formed. and so, _ its countries, is not wholly formed. and so, yeah, it is a test for them, i and so, yeah, it is a test for them, i would _ and so, yeah, it is a test for them, i would say— and so, yeah, it is a test for them, i would say it— and so, yeah, it is a test for them, i would say it is —— i think to say it is— i would say it is —— i think to say it is a _ i would say it is —— i think to say it is a failure _ i would say it is —— i think to say it is a failure for them at the
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moment— it is a failure for them at the moment is that there are many levers to pull— moment is that there are many levers to pull and _ moment is that there are many levers to pull and they have not pulled them _ to pull and they have not pulled them. they have to get their act together— them. they have to get their act together quickly and try to do something. and you are right, because — something. and you are right, because it _ something. and you are right, because it is one of its members, there _ because it is one of its members, there is— because it is one of its members, there is obligation, but the mechanisms are not really in place. as part— mechanisms are not really in place. as part of— mechanisms are not really in place. as part of this the constant thought in european mines, and the amount of the diplomats and european leaders, what is putin doctor, do we want to provoke? it was interesting that lukashenko said a few weeks ago, the next thing i could do is stop the gas getting to western europe that has to flow through the pipelines that come from russia. whether or not he is going to do that, european response has been compromised. the eu is response has been compromised. tie: eu is really response has been compromised. t'te: eu is really depending response has been compromised. tte: eu is really depending on response has been compromised. t'te: eu is really depending on russian gas, so 35% of the consumption comes from russia, and of course, the three countries that depend the most, more than 50% of their need,
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is germany, france, and italy, and those are very important eu countries. so there is no leveraged there. and there's also the suspension by the german regulator of the line between russia and northern germany, which is not helping the situation, the energy situation in general, it is really bad on the supply side. as steve said, the eu has no defence policy in general. the only thing that could play and the russians might be a bit worried about is that europe has two good armies, a nation with a permanent seat on the security council, britain and france. but of
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course the french bashing by mr johnson does not help. course the french bashing by mr johnson does not help.— course the french bashing by mr johnson does not help. jeffrey, you mentioned this _ johnson does not help. jeffrey, you mentioned this whole _ johnson does not help. jeffrey, you mentioned this whole question - johnson does not help. jeffrey, you mentioned this whole question of. johnson does not help. jeffrey, you i mentioned this whole question of joe mentioned this whole question ofjoe biden policy being unclear, but it is clear that when vladimir putin put troops on the training border, joe biden hastily agreed a summit and had this big theatrical event in geneva, which i'm sure president putin was very pleased about. but i wonder if there's a danger of accidental crisis here, we are pushing the idea of ukraine getting membership of nato, the british said this week they will start selling weapons to ukraine, could putin be any situation where a good sooner rather than later because he fears the consequences of might happen later? he has already gone into part of ukraine, crimea, he went on to moldova, the so—called peacekeepers, and one wonders a bit about the stability here. t and one wonders a bit about the stability here.— and one wonders a bit about the stability here. i think it would be unwise to try _ stability here. i think it would be unwise to try to _
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stability here. i think it would be unwise to try to speculate - stability here. i think it would be unwise to try to speculate on - stability here. i think it would be i unwise to try to speculate on what his reat— unwise to try to speculate on what his real motives _ unwise to try to speculate on what his real motives are. _ unwise to try to speculate on what his real motives are. he _ unwise to try to speculate on what his real motives are. he did - unwise to try to speculate on what his real motives are. he did this i his real motives are. he did this in 2014. _ his real motives are. he did this in 2014. he _ his real motives are. he did this in 2014, he invaded, _ his real motives are. he did this in 2014, he invaded, he— his real motives are. he did this in 2014, he invaded, he annexed - his real motives are. he did this in - 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did _ 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it— 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it in— 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it in the— 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it in the spring, _ 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it in the spring, but _ 2014, he invaded, he annexed crimea. he did it in the spring, but 80,000, i he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000— he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000 trips — he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000 trips on _ he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000 trips on the _ he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000 trips on the border- he did it in the spring, but 80,000, 90,000 trips on the border then - 90,000 trips on the border then pulled _ 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, _ 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, now— 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, now he _ 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, now he is _ 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, now he is do - 90,000 trips on the border then pulled back, now he is do it- 90,000 trips on the border then i pulled back, now he is do it again. is pulled back, now he is do it again. is he _ pulled back, now he is do it again. is he biutfing? _ pulled back, now he is do it again. is he bluffing? is— pulled back, now he is do it again. is he bluffing? is he _ pulled back, now he is do it again. is he bluffing? is he provoking? i pulled back, now he is do it again. i is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing _ is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to _ is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to see — is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to see how _ is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to see how much _ is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to see how much joe - is he bluffing? is he provoking? see testing to see how muchjoe biden. testing to see how muchjoe biden and the _ testing to see how muchjoe biden and the eu — testing to see how muchjoe biden and the eu will— testing to see how muchjoe biden and the eu will tolerate _ testing to see how muchjoe biden and the eu will tolerate of - testing to see how muchjoe biden and the eu will tolerate of this - and the eu will tolerate of this kind of— and the eu will tolerate of this kind of provocation? _ and the eu will tolerate of this kind of provocation? we - and the eu will tolerate of thisl kind of provocation? we simply and the eu will tolerate of this - kind of provocation? we simply don't know, _ kind of provocation? we simply don't know. but— kind of provocation? we simply don't know. but of— kind of provocation? we simply don't know, but of course _ kind of provocation? we simply don't know, but of course there's - kind of provocation? we simply don't know, but of course there's always i know, but of course there's always the danger — know, but of course there's always the danger when _ know, but of course there's always the danger when you're _ know, but of course there's always the danger when you're talking - know, but of course there's always i the danger when you're talking about military— the danger when you're talking about military is— the danger when you're talking about military is an — the danger when you're talking about military is an potential— the danger when you're talking about military is an potential invasion - the danger when you're talking about military is an potential invasion is - military is an potential invasion is that things — military is an potential invasion is that things go _ military is an potential invasion is that things go wrong, _ military is an potential invasion is that things go wrong, that - military is an potential invasion is. that things go wrong, that missiles are fired, _ that things go wrong, that missiles are fired, accidents _ that things go wrong, that missiles are fired, accidents happen, - that things go wrong, that missilesl are fired, accidents happen, people are fired, accidents happen, people are killed. — are fired, accidents happen, people are killed. and _ are fired, accidents happen, people are killed, and it— are fired, accidents happen, people are killed, and it escalates. - are fired, accidents happen, people are killed, and it escalates. this. are killed, and it escalates. this is very— are killed, and it escalates. this is very much— are killed, and it escalates. this is very much on _ are killed, and it escalates. this is very much on both _ are killed, and it escalates. this is very much on both side - are killed, and it escalates. this is very much on both side in - are killed, and it escalates. this is very much on both side in war are killed, and it escalates. this. is very much on both side in war for the hearts— is very much on both side in war for the hearts and _ is very much on both side in war for the hearts and minds— is very much on both side in war for the hearts and minds of— is very much on both side in war for the hearts and minds of their- the hearts and minds of their people — the hearts and minds of their people putin— the hearts and minds of their people. putin wants - the hearts and minds of their people. putin wants his - the hearts and minds of their. people. putin wants his people the hearts and minds of their- people. putin wants his people to believe _ people. putin wants his people to believe he — people. putin wants his people to believe he is _ people. putin wants his people to believe he is a _ people. putin wants his people to believe he is a champion- people. putin wants his people to believe he is a champion for- people. putin wants his people to. believe he is a champion for mother russia _ believe he is a champion for mother russia and — believe he is a champion for mother russia and will— believe he is a champion for mother russia and will reclaim _ believe he is a champion for mother russia and will reclaim its _ believe he is a champion for mother russia and will reclaim its former i russia and will reclaim its former glory, _ russia and will reclaim its former glory, but— russia and will reclaim its former glory, but to _ russia and will reclaim its former glory, but to go _ russia and will reclaim its former glory, but to go back— russia and will reclaim its former glory, but to go back to - russia and will reclaim its former glory, but to go back to the - russia and will reclaim its former i glory, but to go back to the belarus poland _ glory, but to go back to the belarus poland migrant _ glory, but to go back to the belarus poland migrant situation, _ glory, but to go back to the belarus poland migrant situation, there - glory, but to go back to the belarus poland migrant situation, there is. poland migrant situation, there is also a _
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poland migrant situation, there is also a huge. _ poland migrant situation, there is also a huge. huge _ poland migrant situation, there is also a huge, huge public- poland migrant situation, there isj also a huge, huge public relations problem _ also a huge, huge public relations problem because _ also a huge, huge public relations problem because winter— also a huge, huge public relations problem because winter is - also a huge, huge public relations problem because winter is setting in. problem because winter is setting in and _ problem because winter is setting in. and whether— problem because winter is setting in. and whether or— problem because winter is setting in. and whether or not _ problem because winter is setting in. and whether or not putin- problem because winter is setting in. and whether or not putin and. in. and whether or not putin and lukashenko— in. and whether or not putin and lukashenko have _ in. and whether or not putin and lukashenko have provoked - in. and whether or not putin and lukashenko have provoked this, | in. and whether or not putin and i lukashenko have provoked this, it will be _ lukashenko have provoked this, it will be hugeiy— lukashenko have provoked this, it will be hugely problematic - lukashenko have provoked this, it will be hugely problematic to - lukashenko have provoked this, it will be hugely problematic to not. will be hugely problematic to not let people — will be hugely problematic to not let people and _ will be hugely problematic to not let people and if— will be hugely problematic to not let people and if they— will be hugely problematic to not let people and if they are - will be hugely problematic to not| let people and if they are literally freezing — let people and if they are literally freezing to — let people and if they are literally freezing to death _ let people and if they are literally freezing to death on _ let people and if they are literally freezing to death on the - let people and if they are literally freezing to death on the polish i freezing to death on the polish border~ — freezing to death on the polish border~ so— freezing to death on the polish border. so putin _ freezing to death on the polish border. so putin is _ freezing to death on the polish border. so putin is kind - freezing to death on the polish border. so putin is kind of- border. so putin is kind of weaponising _ border. so putin is kind of weaponising of— border. so putin is kind of weaponising of migration, border. so putin is kind of- weaponising of migration, this provocation _ weaponising of migration, this provocation in— weaponising of migration, this provocation in ukraine, - weaponising of migration, this provocation in ukraine, putini weaponising of migration, thisi provocation in ukraine, putin is playing — provocation in ukraine, putin is playing a — provocation in ukraine, putin is playing a really— provocation in ukraine, putin is playing a really hard _ provocation in ukraine, putin is playing a really hard ball - provocation in ukraine, putin is playing a really hard ball right i playing a really hard ball right now. — playing a really hard ball right now. and _ playing a really hard ball right now. and it _ playing a really hard ball right now, and it is _ playing a really hard ball right now, and it is not _ playing a really hard ball right now, and it is not clear- playing a really hard ball right now, and it is not clear wherej playing a really hard ball right - now, and it is not clear where this takes _ now, and it is not clear where this takes us, — now, and it is not clear where this takes us, but _ now, and it is not clear where this takes us, but it— now, and it is not clear where this takes us, but it is— now, and it is not clear where this takes us, but it is a _ now, and it is not clear where this takes us, but it is a very- takes us, but it is a very frightening _ takes us, but it is a very frightening situation, i takes us, but it is a very- frightening situation, particularly when _ frightening situation, particularly when you — frightening situation, particularly when you see _ frightening situation, particularly when you see the _ frightening situation, particularly when you see the real— frightening situation, particularly when you see the real lives - frightening situation, particularly when you see the real lives at. frightening situation, particularly. when you see the real lives at stake here _ when you see the real lives at stake here. , ' , ., ~ when you see the real lives at stake here. ' , ., ~ i. when you see the real lives at stake here. ' , . , when you see the real lives at stake here. ' , ., , . here. jeffrey, thank you very much. a fortniaht here. jeffrey, thank you very much. a fortnight ago. _ here. jeffrey, thank you very much. a fortnight ago, boris _ here. jeffrey, thank you very much. a fortnight ago, boris johnson - a fortnight ago, borisjohnson dragooned as parliamentary colleagues through the lobbies in the house of commons to defend a friend and former minister who had been found to breach the rules and outside interests. last week, mr johnson changed his mind. the megabytes concern, facing likely suspension, quit parliament altogether. this week, the prime minister has described his original position as a total mistake and
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announced a crackdown against mps taking second jobs. in the process, he has united the opposition and many in his own party in contempt of his leadership. he described it as having driven a car in a clear day into a ditch. who have been recast as of that lamentable piece of political steering?— as of that lamentable piece of political steering? have you got about half an _ political steering? have you got about half an hour? _ political steering? have you got about half an hour? what - political steering? have you got l about half an hour? what johnson political steering? have you got - about half an hour? what johnson has about half an hour? whatjohnson has become _ about half an hour? whatjohnson has become a _ about half an hour? whatjohnson has become a cliche, has often got away with things. — become a cliche, has often got away with things, and remained incredibly popuian _ with things, and remained incredibly popular. what we know for sure at the moment is, as you have said, his own mps— the moment is, as you have said, his own mps are — the moment is, as you have said, his own mps are deeply unhappy about the last two— own mps are deeply unhappy about the last two weeks, and that makes a tory prime — last two weeks, and that makes a tory prime minister more fragile. the tory— tory prime minister more fragile. the tory parliamentary party has become — the tory parliamentary party has become as— the tory parliamentary party has become as difficult in government as the labour— become as difficult in government as the labour party used to be when they were — the labour party used to be when they were in government a long time a-o. they were in government a long time ago that _ they were in government a long time ago that is — they were in government a long time ago. that is one consequence. there
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is another— ago. that is one consequence. there is another consequence about whether the polls— is another consequence about whether the polls are shifting, conflicting evidence — the polls are shifting, conflicting evidence about that, but if they do, his great— evidence about that, but if they do, his great ace card, is a source of authority. — his great ace card, is a source of authority. a _ his great ace card, is a source of authority, a poll lead and a perception that he is a good election— perception that he is a good election winner, that goes. but then there _ election winner, that goes. but then there is— election winner, that goes. but then there is a _ election winner, that goes. but then there is a wider issue about what there is a wider issue about what the uk _ there is a wider issue about what the uk wants the westminster parliament to be doing, and already, i parliament to be doing, and already, ithink. _ parliament to be doing, and already, ithink. the _ parliament to be doing, and already, i think, the fashion for electing iocai— i think, the fashion for electing local people based on their contribution to local communities has led _ contribution to local communities has led to — contribution to local communities has led to less weighty representation in the house of commons. and by turning this into an issue _ commons. and by turning this into an issue about _ commons. and by turning this into an issue about second jobs rather than an attempt— issue about second jobs rather than an attempt by boris johnson to help his mate. _ an attempt by boris johnson to help his mate, the tory mp owen paterson, who is— his mate, the tory mp owen paterson, who is now— his mate, the tory mp owen paterson, who is now gone, means there is now a risk— who is now gone, means there is now a risk that— who is now gone, means there is now a risk that you — who is now gone, means there is now a risk that you actually narrowed port further of those who want go into politics. so i do not think second — into politics. so i do not think second jobs are inherently catastrophic for elected
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politicians, but that could be a third _ politicians, but that could be a third consequence, that you narrow those _ third consequence, that you narrow those who— third consequence, that you narrow those who are going the commons, and that could _ those who are going the commons, and that could be _ those who are going the commons, and that could be a bad thing. marc, those who are going the commons, and that could be a bad thing.— that could be a bad thing. marc, it seems to have _ that could be a bad thing. marc, it seems to have become _ that could be a bad thing. marc, it seems to have become almost - that could be a bad thing. marc, it seems to have become almost a i seems to have become almost a theological debate about how many hours and what sort ofjobs are acceptable. as an outsider and an anglophile, somebody who has an affection for the uk, and all the unusual things about its system, what is your take on this? is it a meaningful discussion we are having? well, it is, because one of the things i admire since i arrived here, it is the mps they do. also that link with their constituents, they are almost social workers, and they are almost social workers, and the help they give and the local presence compared to the continent where there is proportional representation and nobody knows your mp in parliament, play very little
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role in checking out the executive. so a very sad situation, i would say that the stop all outside jobs except the ones who are not paid because the urn compared to the continent quite good money, £82,000 compared to 25,000 the median income in this country. so there's no need to do extra work on top of the heavy workload. but on the whole, i am a great defender of the british parliament. it is a marvellous institution.— parliament. it is a marvellous institution. steve, it might be helful, institution. steve, it might be helpful, because _ institution. steve, it might be helpful, because you - institution. steve, it might be helpful, because you talked i institution. steve, it might be - helpful, because you talked about this kind of change in not necessarily the quality of mps, but the range of experiences. give us a kind of taxonomy of tories, is there is the kind of distinction between the pre—johnson tories and the tories that have come in since his big win in 2019?—
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tories that have come in since his big win in 2019? yeah, if you win in areas which — big win in 2019? yeah, if you win in areas which were _ big win in 2019? yeah, if you win in areas which were traditionally - areas which were traditionally labour, — areas which were traditionally labour, you are bound to elect different — labour, you are bound to elect different types of mps, and they on this issue _ different types of mps, and they on this issue are very clear, most of them _ this issue are very clear, most of them are — this issue are very clear, most of them are thrilled to be earning the level of— them are thrilled to be earning the level of income that an mp gets, when _ level of income that an mp gets, when asked some of the older guard think. _ when asked some of the older guard think. on _ when asked some of the older guard think, oh, yeah, we can earn a lot more, _ think, oh, yeah, we can earn a lot more. what — think, oh, yeah, we can earn a lot more, what the heck is going on that this is— more, what the heck is going on that this is all— more, what the heck is going on that this is all being stopped? so this is an— this is all being stopped? so this is an example of quite a significant divide. _ is an example of quite a significant divide. and — is an example of quite a significant divide, and this issue has thrown it up, divide, and this issue has thrown it up. but _ divide, and this issue has thrown it up. but i _ divide, and this issue has thrown it up, but i think other issues will do so and _ up, but i think other issues will do so and would have done so, because this is— so and would have done so, because this is highiy— so and would have done so, because this is highly unusual, what has happened, it has been called the red wall and _ happened, it has been called the red wall and there'sjust happened, it has been called the red wall and there's just sort of acceptance that this has happened, but it— acceptance that this has happened, but it remains remarkable that a party _ but it remains remarkable that a party that — but it remains remarkable that a party that in the 1980s got nowhere near any— party that in the 1980s got nowhere near any of these seats won loads of them _ near any of these seats won loads of them and _ near any of these seats won loads of them and it— near any of these seats won loads of them. and it is still being worked through. — them. and it is still being worked through, actually, what those obligations are. and through, actually, what those obligations are.— obligations are. and the consequences _ obligations are. and the consequences in - obligations are. and the
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consequences in policy | obligations are. and the - consequences in policy terms, jeffrey, because one of the other things about the red the previously labour seats, announced this week on transport and train connections, which might seem very parochial to people watching around the world, but actually seems to be a bit of a litmus test for this government. it's not parochial at all. every country — it's not parochial at all. every country has _ it's not parochial at all. every country has a _ it's not parochial at all. every country has a neck _ it's not parochial at all. every country has a neck contest, i it's not parochial at all. every. country has a neck contest, the economy— country has a neck contest, the economy of— country has a neck contest, the economy of this _ country has a neck contest, the economy of this country - country has a neck contest, the economy of this country is - country has a neck contest, the economy of this country is so i economy of this country is so centralised _ economy of this country is so centralised in _ economy of this country is so centralised in london - economy of this country is so centralised in london and - economy of this country is so| centralised in london and the economy of this country is so - centralised in london and the south, this north—south— centralised in london and the south, this north—south divide _ centralised in london and the south, this north—south divide that - centralised in london and the south, this north—south divide that you - this north—south divide that you hear— this north—south divide that you hear about— this north—south divide that you hear about so— this north—south divide that you hear about so much, _ this north—south divide that you hear about so much, boris- this north—south divide that you i hear about so much, borisjohnson ran on— hear about so much, borisjohnson ran on the — hear about so much, borisjohnson ran on the principle _ hear about so much, borisjohnson ran on the principle of— hear about so much, borisjohnson ran on the principle of levelling - ran on the principle of levelling up, ran on the principle of levelling up. reaching— ran on the principle of levelling up, reaching out— ran on the principle of levelling up, reaching out to _ ran on the principle of levelling up, reaching out to the - ran on the principle of levelling up, reaching out to the north, i up, reaching out to the north, creating — up, reaching out to the north, creating structures— up, reaching out to the north, creating structures so - up, reaching out to the north, creating structures so that. up, reaching out to the north, | creating structures so that the economies— creating structures so that the economies of— creating structures so that the economies of the _ creating structures so that the economies of the north - creating structures so that the economies of the north couldl creating structures so that the - economies of the north could grow in 2021, _ economies of the north could grow in 2021, and _ economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a _ economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a big — economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a big part— economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a big part of— economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a big part of that _ economies of the north could grow in 2021, and a big part of that is - 2021, and a big part of that is high-speed _ 2021, and a big part of that is high—speed rail. _ 2021, and a big part of that is high—speed rail. the - 2021, and a big part of that is high—speed rail. the uk- 2021, and a big part of that is high—speed rail. the uk is . 2021, and a big part of that is high—speed rail. the uk is so| 2021, and a big part of that is i high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind _ high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind much _ high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind much of— high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind much of europe, - high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind much of europe, it - high—speed rail. the uk is so far behind much of europe, it is - behind much of europe, it is laughable. _ behind much of europe, it is laughable, and _ behind much of europe, it is laughable, and h52, - behind much of europe, it is laughable, and h52, the - behind much of europe, it is - laughable, and h52, the project under— laughable, and h52, the project underway. _ laughable, and h52, the project underway. he _ laughable, and h52, the project under way, he cut— laughable, and h52, the project under way, he cut it _ laughable, and h52, the project
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under way, he cut it back- laughable, and h52, the project under way, he cut it back this i laughable, and h52, the project. under way, he cut it back this week to the _ underway, he cut it back this week to the eastern— under way, he cut it back this week to the eastern side _ under way, he cut it back this week to the eastern side of— under way, he cut it back this week to the eastern side of the - under way, he cut it back this week to the eastern side of the country, i to the eastern side of the country, up to the eastern side of the country, up to— to the eastern side of the country, up to leeds — to the eastern side of the country, up to leeds and _ to the eastern side of the country, up to leeds and only— to the eastern side of the country, up to leeds and only way- up to leeds and only way to edinburgh, _ up to leeds and only way to edinburgh, but— up to leeds and only way to edinburgh, but he - up to leeds and only way to edinburgh, but he the - up to leeds and only way to i edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to leeds and only way to - edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to manchester— edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to manchester through— edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to manchester through birmingham - edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to manchester through birmingham ——| edinburgh, but he the ongoing up to i manchester through birmingham —— all the way— manchester through birmingham —— all the way to— manchester through birmingham —— all the way to edinburgh. _ manchester through birmingham —— all the way to edinburgh. he _ manchester through birmingham —— all the way to edinburgh. he has- manchester through birmingham —— all the way to edinburgh. he has now- the way to edinburgh. he has now created _ the way to edinburgh. he has now created an — the way to edinburgh. he has now created an east—west _ the way to edinburgh. he has now created an east—west divide - the way to edinburgh. he has now created an east—west divide in - the way to edinburgh. he has nowj created an east—west divide in the north, _ created an east—west divide in the north, and — created an east—west divide in the north, and it — created an east—west divide in the north, and it has _ created an east—west divide in the north, and it has not _ created an east—west divide in the north, and it has not been - created an east—west divide in the l north, and it has not been received welt _ north, and it has not been received welt the _ north, and it has not been received well. the notion _ north, and it has not been received well. the notion of— north, and it has not been received well. the notion of the _ north, and it has not been received well. the notion of the country- well. the notion of the country cannot — well. the notion of the country cannot afford _ well. the notion of the country cannot afford it _ well. the notion of the country cannot afford it is _ well. the notion of the country cannot afford it is being - well. the notion of the country. cannot afford it is being countered with. _ cannot afford it is being countered with. you — cannot afford it is being countered with. you cannot— cannot afford it is being countered with, you cannot afford _ cannot afford it is being countered with, you cannot afford not- cannot afford it is being countered with, you cannot afford not to - cannot afford it is being countered with, you cannot afford not to do. with, you cannot afford not to do this. _ with, you cannot afford not to do this. you — with, you cannot afford not to do this. you have _ with, you cannot afford not to do this, you have to _ with, you cannot afford not to do this, you have to build _ with, you cannot afford not to do this, you have to build an- this, you have to build an infrastructure _ this, you have to build an infrastructure for- this, you have to build an infrastructure for the - this, you have to build an- infrastructure for the 21st—century, and the _ infrastructure for the 21st—century, and the blue — infrastructure for the 21st—century, and the blue wall— infrastructure for the 21st—century, and the blue wall that _ infrastructure for the 21st—century, and the blue wall that steve - infrastructure for the 21st—century,| and the blue wall that steve talked about _ and the blue wall that steve talked about but _ and the blue wall that steve talked about but not — and the blue wall that steve talked about but not overly— and the blue wall that steve talked about but not overly red _ and the blue wall that steve talked about but not overly red wall, - and the blue wall that steve talked about but not overly red wall, the i about but not overly red wall, the election— about but not overly red wall, the election of— about but not overly red wall, the election of so _ about but not overly red wall, the election of so many— about but not overly red wall, the election of so many tories - about but not overly red wall, the election of so many tories in - election of so many tories in traditional— election of so many tories in traditional labour— election of so many tories in traditional labour seats, - election of so many tories in traditional labour seats, is l election of so many tories in - traditional labour seats, is really now in— traditional labour seats, is really now in question, _ traditional labour seats, is really now in question, certainly- traditional labour seats, is really now in question, certainly in - traditional labour seats, is really now in question, certainly in the i now in question, certainly in the eastern — now in question, certainly in the eastern places— now in question, certainly in the eastern places like _ now in question, certainly in the eastern places like leeds - now in question, certainly in the eastern places like leeds and i eastern places like leeds and newcastle _ eastern places like leeds and newcastle that _ eastern places like leeds and newcastle that have - eastern places like leeds and| newcastle that have expected eastern places like leeds and i newcastle that have expected to eastern places like leeds and - newcastle that have expected to be part of— newcastle that have expected to be part of this — newcastle that have expected to be part of this new_ newcastle that have expected to be part of this new opportunity, - newcastle that have expected to be part of this new opportunity, that i part of this new opportunity, that would _ part of this new opportunity, that would take — part of this new opportunity, that would take years _ part of this new opportunity, that would take years to _ part of this new opportunity, that would take years to build, - part of this new opportunity, that would take years to build, it - part of this new opportunity, that would take years to build, it is i would take years to build, it is under— would take years to build, it is under construction— would take years to build, it is under construction at- would take years to build, it is under construction at now, - would take years to build, it is| under construction at now, and would take years to build, it is - under construction at now, and now he has _ under construction at now, and now he has dialled — under construction at now, and now he has dialled it— under construction at now, and now he has dialled it back. _ under construction at now, and now he has dialled it back. boris- he has dialled it back. boris johnson _ he has dialled it back. boris johnson died _ he has dialled it back. boris johnson died on _ he has dialled it back. boris johnson died on very- he has dialled it back. boris johnson died on very few i johnson died on very few policies, taking _ johnson died on very few policies, taking back— johnson died on very few policies, taking back control— johnson died on very few policies, taking back control of— johnson died on very few policies, taking back control of the - johnson died on very few policies, taking back control of the borders| taking back control of the borders from _ taking back control of the borders from migrants _ taking back control of the borders from migrants and _ taking back control of the borders from migrants and levelling - taking back control of the borders from migrants and levelling up, l taking back control of the borders i from migrants and levelling up, both of those _ from migrants and levelling up, both of those are —
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from migrants and levelling up, both of those are now _ from migrants and levelling up, both of those are now undermined. - of those are now undermined. jeffrey. — of those are now undermined. jeffrey. steve. _ of those are now undermined. jeffrey, steve, marc, - of those are now undermined. jeffrey, steve, marc, thank. of those are now undermined. i jeffrey, steve, marc, thank you of those are now undermined. - jeffrey, steve, marc, thank you very much, lovely to talk to you all again. we are out of time. do join us next week at the same time for dateline, goodbye. hello. the real change over the next 24 hours or so, mild for much of the member so far, but through this weekend things turn significantly colder. particularly by the time we get to tomorrow. that is down to the fact we have this weather front slipping south, introducing the blue colours, the colder air mass and is chilly northerly winds as well. the rest of the day, a fair amount of
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dry and mild weather for much of england and wales, the odd spot of drizzle in the south and some patchy rain to northern end and north wales later on. temperatures up to 11 and 12 celsius, scotland and northern ireland into the afternoon turning brighter with some scattered blustery showers. some heavy showers overnight for north of scotland, snow on the highest ground. temperatures remaining above freezing in most of our towns and cities, but a touch below for some rural spots. cities, but a touch below for some ruralspots. italy cities, but a touch below for some rural spots. italy start to sunday. more sunshine tomorrow than we have today, but further wintry showers going to the high ground of scotland and rain showers from the east of england. top around seven to 11 celsius. —— top temperatures.
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