tv The Papers BBC News December 26, 2021 11:30pm-11:46pm GMT
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this is bbc news. the headlines: tributes pour in for archbishop desmond tutu, nobel laureate and veteran of south africa's struggle against apartheid, who has died at the age of 90. he was a man of unwavering courage, of principled conviction and whose life was spent in the service of others. israel approves plans for a huge expansion of settlements in the golan heights, which most of the world doesn't recognise as israeli territory. new coronavirus restrictions come into force in scotland, wales and northern ireland — to try to limit the spread of the omicron variant. and omicron causes chaos for travellers — 7,000 flights cancelled around the world over the christmas weekend.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are political commentator jo phillips and nigel nelson, political editor of the people and sunday mirror. hello, both. a quick look at the front pages. the daily telegraph front page looks at reported plans for schools to send whole year groups home amid growing concerns of the 0micron variant. the i says borisjohnson�*s poll lead "collapses" as leave supporters abandon the prime minister following what it calls "chaos" at number 10. the guardian says there's widespread concern over the state of the nhs according to a poll. the daily express reports new year's eve parties will be given a cautious green light by the prime minister. meanwhile, the daily mirror says plans for new year's eve celebrations are on a knife edge.
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the times says weddings and funerals are to be spared from "covid curbs" if any tougher measures are brought in. the daily mail leads with the security breach at windsor castle yesterday, when a man entered the grounds with a crossbow. the paper says police are investigating a video on social media thought to be linked with the intruder. 0k, let us begin our chat, jo and nigel. nice to have you back. excuse me, nigel, iwonder nigel. nice to have you back. excuse me, nigel, i wonder if you could take us to the front page of the guardian and the sad death of desmond tutu announced today. yes. desmond tutu announced today. yes, and all different _ desmond tutu announced today. yes, and all different are _ desmond tutu announced today. yes and all different are featuring this, and quite rightly. desmond tutu was a massive figure, small stature but certainly a huge figure, and as far as getting rid of
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apartheid in south africa was concerned, he played one of the biggest if not the biggest part in doing that. there was a nice little anecdote told about him which kind of sums up the man by the former africa correspondent of the new york times today, and he remembers going with him on an internalflight to cape town, and of 400 passengers, desmond tutu was the only one signal out for a body search, and when he came back from that, he said, it must�*ve been my middle cross which set it off! they must�*ve thought it was a weapon, which in a sense it was, because desmond tutu was the leader of black and white christians in south africa, so the greatest thing about him is he was able to speak to both sides and in doing so helps to read the nation of apartheid. helps to read the nation of apartheid-— helps to read the nation of aartheid. . , , , apartheid. criticised both sides as well, he apartheid. criticised both sides as well. he was _ apartheid. criticised both sides as
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well, he was not _ apartheid. criticised both sides as well, he was not shy _ apartheid. criticised both sides as well, he was not shy of— apartheid. criticised both sides as well, he was not shy of doing - apartheid. criticised both sides as| well, he was not shy of doing that, jo? ., . , well, he was not shy of doing that, jo? ., ., , ., ., , jo? no, he was not. the photographs we have seen — jo? no, he was not. the photographs we have seen since _ jo? no, he was not. the photographs we have seen since his _ jo? no, he was not. the photographs we have seen since his death - jo? no, he was not. the photographs we have seen since his death after. we have seen since his death after him laughing, which people will remember, that wonderful giggle, but he was _ remember, that wonderful giggle, but he was resolute and strong in his condemnation of people who we thought— condemnation of people who we thought were not up to it, that included — thought were not up to it, that included the anc, it included jacob zuma, it _ included the anc, it included jacob zuma, it has included the british government, the israeli government, many, _ government, the israeli government, many, many— government, the israeli government, many, many people he was not afraid to say— many, many people he was not afraid to say what _ many, many people he was not afraid to say what he thought about, and as nigel says. _ to say what he thought about, and as nigel says, he was a small man, but he was _ nigel says, he was a small man, but he was an— nigel says, he was a small man, but he was an absolute giant spiritually and morally, and he has been described _ and morally, and he has been described as the moral conscience of south _ described as the moral conscience of south africa. i think it was bigger than that — south africa. i think it was bigger than that. he was a worldwide phenomenon, and an example of that faith that _ phenomenon, and an example of that faith that he had, that gave him hone. _ faith that he had, that gave him hope. that— faith that he had, that gave him hope, that allowed him to carry on, again— hope, that allowed him to carry on, again and _ hope, that allowed him to carry on, again and again and again against
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the odds— again and again and again against the odds during apartheid but also -ive the odds during apartheid but also give him _ the odds during apartheid but also give him the strength to condemn and criticise _ give him the strength to condemn and criticise people he thought were as bad criticise people he thought were as had as— criticise people he thought were as had as the — criticise people he thought were as bad as the things he was trained to -et bad as the things he was trained to get rid _ bad as the things he was trained to get rid of— bad as the things he was trained to get rid of the. we bad as the things he was trained to get rid of the-— bad as the things he was trained to get rid of the. we are going to stay with the guardian _ get rid of the. we are going to stay with the guardian of _ get rid of the. we are going to stay with the guardian of the _ get rid of the. we are going to stay with the guardian of the nigel. - get rid of the. we are going to stay| with the guardian of the nigel. paul revealing concern over nhs —— a paul revealing. revealing concern over nhs -- a paul revealina. , , revealing. this is quite interesting, _ revealing. this is quite interesting, because . revealing. this is quite - interesting, because britain is revealing. this is quite _ interesting, because britain is the incredibly sentimental about the nhs, and with good reason. it is our finest postwar achievement. but what this survey shows is that 26% of people don't have confidence in it. the guardian makes clear a lot of this has got to do with covid, it is the fact that people cannot get appointments with gps, they are on waiting list for operations, a lot of these things going on before covid struck, so it is interesting that people are now thinking about the future of the nhs. 0bviously
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that people are now thinking about the future of the nhs. obviously the question is really about, how you restructure it and what you do, has to be left until after covid, but i think that debate really will have to be held the. jo? yeah, i think, although we know perfectly well that covid has _ although we know perfectly well that covid has overrun the health service and they— covid has overrun the health service and they will do so again, and we have _ and they will do so again, and we have seen— and they will do so again, and we have seen people who have left because — have seen people who have left because of burn—out and the pressures— because of burn—out and the pressures and things, we also know that no— pressures and things, we also know that no government has had the gumption, if you like, to have a look_ gumption, if you like, to have a look and — gumption, if you like, to have a look and have a proper grown—up conversation about what it should do, conversation about what it should do. what — conversation about what it should do. what it — conversation about what it should do, what it can do and how it can improve, and that does include the bil improve, and that does include the big issue _ improve, and that does include the big issue of— improve, and that does include the big issue of social care, it does include — big issue of social care, it does include things like primary health care, _ include things like primary health care, and — include things like primary health care, and in areas where you've got very. _ care, and in areas where you've got very. very— care, and in areas where you've got very, very good coordinated primary care, _ very, very good coordinated primary care, which— very, very good coordinated primary care, which is perhaps a group of doctors _ care, which is perhaps a group of doctors surgeries with a minor and he mac— doctors surgeries with a minor and he mac department but plus community
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services, _ he mac department but plus community services, whether that is district nurses— services, whether that is district nurses or— services, whether that is district nurses or dementia support or that sort of— nurses or dementia support or that sort of thing, there is no... —— a85 — sort of thing, there is no... —— a85 that— sort of thing, there is no... —— a&e. that does not seem to be any common— a&e. that does not seem to be any common sense. while this is going on, common sense. while this is going on. we _ common sense. while this is going on. we need — common sense. while this is going on, we need to be thinking about what _ on, we need to be thinking about what we — on, we need to be thinking about what we do — on, we need to be thinking about what we do next, and the government, which _ what we do next, and the government, which ever— what we do next, and the government, which ever government it is, needs to get— which ever government it is, needs to get on— which ever government it is, needs to get on with it because it is a debate — to get on with it because it is a debate which would have had a long time ago _ debate which would have had a long time auo. , ., debate which would have had a long time ao. ., debate which would have had a long time auo. i. ., ., debate which would have had a long time auo. ,, ., ., ., ., ,, time ago. ok, you are going to take us to the front _ time ago. ok, you are going to take us to the front page _ time ago. ok, you are going to take us to the front page of— time ago. ok, you are going to take us to the front page of the - us to the front page of the times, please, nigel, and weddings and funerals could, if it happens, be spared from covid curbs. could you explain the if? the spared from covid curbs. could you exniain the if?— explain the if? the papers don't really agree _ explain the if? the papers don't really agree with _ explain the if? the papers don't really agree with each _ explain the if? the papers don't really agree with each other, i really agree with each other, exactly what boris johnson will do tomorrow if indeed he does anything, but the times is suggesting that in the event the restrictions are brought in, one thing that we won't get back to his restricting guest and mortars at weddings and funerals, the 30 people, which is
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good —— guests and people morning. another bit which actually sounds very promising was that cruel practice during lockdown of stopping partners being at the birth of their children when the mother went into hospital. so the idea of not doing that again, i'm not sure that ever made any difference at all to covid infection rates, and so it does seem to me that we have had a bit more him entity about this now if assertions come in, how they should be imposed and who should be spared from them. jo. be imposed and who should be spared from them. , ., be imposed and who should be spared from them. g ., ~ ., , , from them. jo, the mirror is 'ust focusing on fl from them. jo, the mirror is 'ust focusing on what i from them. jo, the mirror is 'ust focusing on what could i from them. jo, the mirror isjust focusing on what could happen l from them. jo, the mirror isjust. focusing on what could happen on from them. jo, the mirror isjust - focusing on what could happen on new year's eve. ., ., ., , , year's eve. yeah, and as nigel says, all the papers _ year's eve. yeah, and as nigel says, all the papers have _ year's eve. yeah, and as nigel says, all the papers have got _ year's eve. yeah, and as nigel says, all the papers have got very - all the papers have got very different angles on this and we have had the, _ different angles on this and we have had the, safe christmas! now we have -ot, had the, safe christmas! now we have got, new_ had the, safe christmas! now we have got, new year's eve on a knife edge. for many, _ got, new year's eve on a knife edge. for many, many people, it won't be on a knife _ for many, many people, it won't be on a knife edge because they won't io on a knife edge because they won't go out _ on a knife edge because they won't go out we — on a knife edge because they won't go out. we already know the
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hospitality industry is on its knees and it— hospitality industry is on its knees and it is— hospitality industry is on its knees and it is buckling even further, because — and it is buckling even further, because people, they didn't have to because people, they didn't have to he told _ because people, they didn't have to he told to— because people, they didn't have to be told to stay away, they decided to, at— be told to stay away, they decided to, at christmas. and the problem is this mixed _ to, at christmas. and the problem is this mixed messaging that is coming out of— this mixed messaging that is coming out of downing street now to government —— and out of government. boris _ government —— and out of government. borisjohnson _ government —— and out of government. borisjohnson is going to be with patrick vallance and chris whitty, the medical officers. it is not a cabinet — the medical officers. it is not a cabinet meeting, and he is going to have to _ cabinet meeting, and he is going to have to wait up, with the very limited — have to wait up, with the very limited data — because the data he receives _ limited data — because the data he receives tomorrow morning will not show the _ receives tomorrow morning will not show the hospitalisations as a result— show the hospitalisations as a result of— show the hospitalisations as a result of mixing and niggling over the christmas holiday period. —— mixing and mingling. he has three options _ —— mixing and mingling. he has three options - _ —— mixing and mingling. he has three options - do— —— mixing and mingling. he has three options — do nothing, offer some guidance — options — do nothing, offer some guidance on bringing new rules. the latter— guidance on bringing new rules. the latter what— guidance on bringing new rules. the latter what is going to be really unpopular. does borisjohnson want to appease — unpopular. does borisjohnson want to appease his backbenchers, many of
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whom _ to appease his backbenchers, many of whom don't— to appease his backbenchers, many of whom don't want further restrictions, or is he going to really. — restrictions, or is he going to really, really do what he said he has been — really, really do what he said he has been doing in the past, which is to trust— has been doing in the past, which is to trust the — has been doing in the past, which is to trust the science, even though the science — to trust the science, even though the science might be quite sketchy tomorrow? . ~ the science might be quite sketchy tomorrow? ., ,, ., tomorrow? talking about mixed messaging. _ tomorrow? talking about mixed messaging, nigel, _ tomorrow? talking about mixed messaging, nigel, the - tomorrow? talking about mixed messaging, nigel, the daily - tomorrow? talking about mixed - messaging, nigel, the daily mirror, we have new year's eve and a knife edge, the express isjust saying that parties are on. edge, the express is 'ust saying that parties are on._ that parties are on. yeah, the exress that parties are on. yeah, the express think _ that parties are on. yeah, the express think that _ that parties are on. yeah, the express think that boris - that parties are on. yeah, the i express think that boris johnson express think that borisjohnson will give the go—ahead to new year's parties, albeit with some caution, i am not sure what that means. when people get to new year's parties, the one thing they're not is very cautious... i the one thing they're not is very cautious- - -_ the one thing they're not is very cautious... ~' ., , ., , ., cautious... i think he means a small shelvinu! cautious... i think he means a small shelving! laughter _ shelving! laughter he is genuinely - shelving! laughter he is genuinely in i shelving! laughter he is genuinely in a| shelving! laughter - he is genuinely in a difficult position. 0bviously he is genuinely in a difficult position. obviously the hospitality trade are desperate after dismal december, so to get the new year's celebration off and running to try
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and recoup the money they have lost. each pub is losing an average of £1000 a day. that is an excellent report of —— amount of money. they will be praying for shock gives the go—ahead, but i thinkjo makes the point really well, ijust go—ahead, but i thinkjo makes the point really well, i just wonder go—ahead, but i thinkjo makes the point really well, ijust wonder how many people will grow at a new year's eve anyway.— many people will grow at a new year's eve anyway. talking about auoin year's eve anyway. talking about going out. _ year's eve anyway. talking about going out. if— year's eve anyway. talking about going out. if we _ year's eve anyway. talking about going out, if we turn _ year's eve anyway. talking about going out, if we turn to - year's eve anyway. talking about going out, if we turn to the - year's eve anyway. talking about going out, if we turn to the front| going out, if we turn to the front page of the telegraph, boxing day shopping did not go to well, jo. trio. shopping did not go to well, jo. no, and i rememberas i am sure shopping did not go to well, jo. no, and i remember as i am sure you and nigel— and i remember as i am sure you and nigel post you as well... we and i remember as i am sure you and nigel post you as well. . ._ nigel post you as well... we are old enou~h! nigel post you as well... we are old enough! in — nigel post you as well... we are old enough! in the _ nigel post you as well... we are old enough! in the old _ nigel post you as well... we are old enough! in the old days, _ nigel post you as well... we are old enough! in the old days, people - enough! in the old days, people would no enough! in the old days, people would go out — enough! in the old days, people would go out to _ enough! in the old days, people would go out to do _ enough! in the old days, people would go out to do an _ enough! in the old days, people would go out to do an interview| enough! in the old days, people - would go out to do an interview with people _ would go out to do an interview with people queuing up with a flask and sandwiches to get that sofa on christmas! that has not happened. a lot of— christmas! that has not happened. a lot of the _ christmas! that has not happened. a lot of the big shops were closed
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today, _ lot of the big shops were closed today, partly because some of the supermarkets said that their workers quite rightly deserve a day off, but also i _ quite rightly deserve a day off, but also i think— quite rightly deserve a day off, but also i think a lot of places have not got — also i think a lot of places have not got the staff or had not got the stock _ not got the staff or had not got the stock we — not got the staff or had not got the stock. we have gone to online shopping _ stock. we have gone to online shopping a lot during covid, and there _ shopping a lot during covid, and there is— shopping a lot during covid, and there is a — shopping a lot during covid, and there is a prediction that when the hi-h there is a prediction that when the high street has suffered, the online retailers do very well, but it does throughout bigger question, what happens — throughout bigger question, what happens to our city centres? and if you look— happens to our city centres? and if you look at— somewhere like princes street in edinburgh or oxford street in london. _ edinburgh or oxford street in london, any of the big cities were there _ london, any of the big cities were there put— london, any of the big cities were there put everything into that basket of retail, you now see those tenants _ basket of retail, you now see those tenants go. — basket of retail, you now see those tenants go, debenhams, those sort of bil tenants go, debenhams, those sort of big shops, _ tenants go, debenhams, those sort of big shops, people are going to have to really. _ big shops, people are going to have to really, really thick about how we change _ to really, really thick about how we change town centres, and he lost to the big _ change town centres, and he lost to the big shops may be the benefit of the big shops may be the benefit of the small— the big shops may be the benefit of the small independents.— the big shops may be the benefit of the small independents. nigel, 'ust
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ve cuickl the small independents. nigel, 'ust very quickly you fl the small independents. nigel, 'ust very quickly you have i the small independents. nigel, 'ust very quickly you have the i the small independents. nigel, just very quickly you have the omicron l very quickly you have the omicron variant, dismal weather, very quickly you have the omicron variant, dismalweather, growing variant, dismal weather, growing house variant, dismalweather, growing house bills — it isjust not variant, dismalweather, growing house bills — it is just not the right time to go shopping, is it? there is always that. it is obsolete true we have had to shuck to fairly during lockdown and so online shopping has become a thing —— obviously true. the 45% who did not go out on boxing day sales today, that rising to 6% in london, i do think people are not going up because they worry about overdrawn, so in other words, borisjohnson does not need to bring in a load more restrictions, people already imposing their own on themselves! nigel nelson, jo phillips, as ever, a pleasure. i don't know if i will speak to you before the new year! i do -- if --if|
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i know it's going to be horrific. i know it's going to be really, really tough. but it's supposed to be. he's not going to sleep. and there are serious risks. 100 miles in one day without no sleep?! i you are crazy! people gravitate towards him because he's so decent, humble. it sounds like i've got a massive man crush. i probably do! i want it to be raining and sleeting and windy. i want everything to get thrown at us that can be, because there's people out there doing it really tough with the mnd and people connected with mmd who are fighting a tough fight at the minute, and we're just showing them that we care. probably a bit apprehensive. you want to get started, you want to get going. my wife's idea to run from here to leeds. yeah, my wife suggested, "why don't you run with both clubs? that'd mean a fair bit to you." and you do the maths and you work out the route. it all was inspired by rob, and he'll be in all
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