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to step back from a "military disaster", and accused the kremlin of effectively holding a gun to ukraine's head. during a visit to kyiv, he promised continued support to ukraine. russia's president putin has accused the west of ignoring his demands over security. he warned nato against allowing ukraine to join the alliance. the manchester united footballer mason greenwood has been further arrested on suspicion of sexual assault and threats to kill. british police initially arrested the 20—year—old premier league star on sunday afternoon, on suspicion of the rape and assault of a young woman. the president of guinea bissau says the situation there is calm and under control, after what appears to have been an attempted coup.
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hello and a warm welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are miatta fahnbulleh, who is the chief executive of the new economics foundation, and kate maltby, who is a columnist for the i paper and arts critic. welcome to you both. let's have a flick through what is already in. i think we can start with the metro. the shocking findings of a police watchdog investigation into the met is the lead. the report uncovered discrimination, bullying and misogyny in its ranks. as the government prepares to announce its long—awaited leveling up announce its long—awaited leveling up strategy tomorrow, the guardian puts critics who say the plan lacks
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funding and clarity. it also carries an image of borisjohnson meeting his ukrainian counterpart in kyiv earlier today. his ukrainian counterpart in kyiv earliertoday. despite his ukrainian counterpart in kyiv earlier today. despite the prime minister flying through eastern europe, he hasn't been able to leave his problem behind. senior tories have put the pm on notice. telling the paper the uk's accord de abroad is being damaged. express takes aim at the government's right off of nearly £9 billion of ppe during the pandemic after the shortfall was revealed in the health department. the telegraph leads on plans for homeowner replacement therapy used to treat minimal —— hormone replacement. in the star reports on the supermarket cease—fire reached in the war of the counter pillars,
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—— caterpillars. over there cakes. i'm not sure which one is on the front, but i'm sure we can work that out. let's start. welcome to you both. kate, let's kick off with the metro. some pretty revolting whatsapp messages showing a culture particularly, but have you and i idea how the mets will confront and change this?— change this? well, the met for the last ear change this? well, the met for the last year have _ change this? well, the met for the last year have had _ change this? well, the met for the last year have had a _ change this? well, the met for the last year have had a series - change this? well, the met for the last year have had a series of... i i last year have had a series of... i was going to say horrific headlines, but that suggest it is pr. the problem is these things happened. really terrible incidents uncovered. this is just the latest. my answer
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to your question is the met have a lot to do to win the trust of women and all minorities, people of colour, gay people. if you look at the stephen court story, about a serial killer of gay men, not being properly investigated. so the answer is they need to do an awful lot to win people's trust back. but this is just the latest of a series. it makes it impossible for them to do that. ~ ., , makes it impossible for them to do that. ~ . , ., ., makes it impossible for them to do that. ~ . , ., makes it impossible for them to do that. . . , ., that. what is it the root of this? is it culture. _ that. what is it the root of this? is it culture, diversity, - is it culture, diversity, demographics, the age? what is the root cause of this? i demographics, the age? what is the root cause of this?— root cause of this? i think it comes down to the _ root cause of this? i think it comes down to the culture. _ root cause of this? i think it comes down to the culture. when - root cause of this? i think it comes down to the culture. when you - root cause of this? i think it comes down to the culture. when you see some of— down to the culture. when you see some of those messages, it does take you back_ some of those messages, it does take you back and it's pretty shocking. i think_ you back and it's pretty shocking. i think what's— you back and it's pretty shocking. i think what's most shocking is they were _ think what's most shocking is they were shared and whatsapp groups, so at the _ were shared and whatsapp groups, so at the time _ were shared and whatsapp groups, so at the time of culture that
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normalises misogyny, quite brutal listing _ normalises misogyny, quite brutal listing language. i think that's what — listing language. i think that's what you've got to shake up. this puts quite — what you've got to shake up. this puts quite a — what you've got to shake up. this puts quite a lot of pressure on cressida — puts quite a lot of pressure on cressida dick. she's had a really difficult — cressida dick. she's had a really difficult year where there were questions about her leadership. i think— questions about her leadership. i think this — questions about her leadership. i think this is the kind of final nail in the _ think this is the kind of final nail in the coffin that says that there was a _ in the coffin that says that there was a systemic problem in the met. it was a systemic problem in the met. it doesn't _ was a systemic problem in the met. it doesn't feel like it's being gripped _ it doesn't feel like it's being gripped at the top, and it has to be because _ gripped at the top, and it has to be because it — gripped at the top, and it has to be because it is about public confidence. we have a system of policing — confidence. we have a system of policing by — confidence. we have a system of policing by consents, and there has been _ policing by consents, and there has been erosion in trust that i think is very— been erosion in trust that i think is very damaging to police. these comments _ is very damaging to police. these comments are _ is very damaging to police. these comments are made _ is very damaging to police. these comments are made on _ is very damaging to police. these comments are made on social - is very damaging to police. these i comments are made on social media groups. is there an argument for quite serious scrutiny? a surveillance of police officers and their social media? i surveillance of police officers and their social media?— their social media? i don't think their social media? i don't think the answer _ their social media? i don't think
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the answer is _ their social media? i don't think the answer is ever— their social media? i don't think the answer is ever to _ their social media? i don't think the answer is ever to survey - their social media? i don't think. the answer is ever to survey what people share. there's obviously existing laws covering the creation of hostile environments in the workplace, and there's a discussion of about whether this counts. if you are considering on the private front. none of which is to suggest that i'm not horrified and angry as a feminist myself. i think it's about culture, and the leadership starts at the top. i think we need to see senior police officers thinking very seriously about the environment that they themselves create. but just environment that they themselves create. butjust to talk environment that they themselves create. but just to talk about the language itself, this investigation started after a police loss was found to have raped an unconscious woman to. ., found to have raped an unconscious woman to. . ., , found to have raped an unconscious
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woman to. . .,, ., found to have raped an unconscious woman t0-_ iti woman to. that was unfounded. it hasn't been _ woman to. that was unfounded. it hasn't been proven, _ woman to. that was unfounded. it hasn't been proven, 0k. _ woman to. that was unfounded. it hasn't been proven, 0k. one - woman to. that was unfounded. it hasn't been proven, 0k. one of. woman to. that was unfounded. it | hasn't been proven, ok. one of the thing that shocked me, and there's a lot more detail in the times, which is carrying the story also, is the jokes about police officers' treatment of women that sound very much like the joke we saw made about wayne couzens by his colleagues. he has been convicted of killing sarah everard. he wasjoking in his station, and called the rapist. i read a thing in the times, saying police refer to one colleagues as a rate person. ijust wonder how many more times we will discover that —— raper person. the people were hiding in plain sight, notjust as people who made unsavouryjokes, but who hurts women and gay people and people of colour in exactly the way
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their colleagues think is a joke. this investigation, does it go much wider? i this investigation, does it go much wider? ., this investigation, does it go much wider? ,, , ., , , this investigation, does it go much wider? ,, , , , ., wider? i think it probably needs to. i think it would _ wider? i think it probably needs to. i think it would be _ wider? i think it probably needs to. i think it would be quite _ wider? i think it probably needs to. i think it would be quite unusual. i think it would be quite unusual if it was— i think it would be quite unusual if it was contained to one part of the force _ it was contained to one part of the force 50. — it was contained to one part of the force 50. i— it was contained to one part of the force. so, ithink it was contained to one part of the force. so, i think this needs to go, if it comes — force. so, i think this needs to go, if it comes down to culture, it needs— if it comes down to culture, it needs to _ if it comes down to culture, it needs to go much wider. it is about policing _ needs to go much wider. it is about policing with consent, it is about trust _ policing with consent, it is about trust of — policing with consent, it is about trust of the public, so i think there — trust of the public, so i think there is— trust of the public, so i think there is an _ trust of the public, so i think there is an absolute priority because _ there is an absolute priority because the more this leaks out, i think— because the more this leaks out, i think the _ because the more this leaks out, i think the more damaging it is. let�*s think the more damaging it is. let's to on think the more damaging it is. let's no on to think the more damaging it is. let's go on to the — think the more damaging it is. let's go on to the i- _ tories put p.m. tories put pm. on notice. one more resignation today, one more tory mps calling for the prime minister to quit, but not really the momentum that some might have thought at the moment. well, they
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alwa s ut thought at the moment. well, they always put him _ thought at the moment. well, they always put him on _ thought at the moment. well, they always put him on notice _ thought at the moment. well, they always put him on notice at - thought at the moment. well, they always put him on notice at the - always put him on notice at the moment. ifeelwe've always put him on notice at the moment. ifeel we've seen always put him on notice at the moment. i feel we've seen a version of this headline every day. the i, which is my paper, focus is... i which is my paper, focus is... i haven't got a list. who - which is my paper, focus is... i haven't got a list. who has - haven't got a list. who has spoken to the i directly, _ haven't got a list. who has spoken to the i directly, and _ haven't got a list. who has spoken to the i directly, and i _ haven't got a list. who has spoken to the i directly, and i think- to the i directly, and i think what's really important about the interview he was given, he talks about damaging the uk's authority abroad, damaging the uk's ability to lead and engage with allies on policies like that which we are seeing on the borders of ukraine. and he's absolutely right there. the problem is that these barren for equipment —— these are foreign crises. particularly, those have been brought forward... sorry, that's not fair. have been
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highlighted by borisjohnson as a reason why we need him to stay in post. so, all of these conversations are being kept in check by political dynamics and arguments on both sides without much momentum.— without much momentum. miatta, if ou look at without much momentum. miatta, if you look at the other _ without much momentum. miatta, if you look at the other bullet - without much momentum. miatta, if you look at the other bullet points i you look at the other bullet points in the i, johnson draws outrage from victims over the untrue claims that keir starmer failed to prosecute the predatorjimmy several. what was your response to that in that statement in the comments? i your response to that in that statement in the comments? i think it was pretty — statement in the comments? i think it was pretty shoddy _ statement in the comments? i think it was pretty shoddy -- _ statement in the comments? i think it was pretty shoddy -- in _ statement in the comments? i think it was pretty shoddy -- in the - it was pretty shoddy —— in the commons _ it was pretty shoddy —— in the commons. he knew it was false claims, — commons. he knew it was false claims, it— commons. he knew it was false claims, it was face news —— my fake news _ claims, it was face news —— my fake news i_ claims, it was face news —— my fake news ithink— claims, it was face news —— my fake news. i think he did on purpose to create _ news. i think he did on purpose to create a _ news. i think he did on purpose to create a distraction. they wouldn't talk about the fact that he was being — talk about the fact that he was being raked across the coals by his
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backbenchers. for me, if the prime minister— backbenchers. for me, if the prime minister really wanted to put all of this behind him, he needed to be contrite _ this behind him, he needed to be contrite and serious and throwing in things— contrite and serious and throwing in things like _ contrite and serious and throwing in things like this which his advisers apparently advised him not to do, i think— apparently advised him not to do, i think is just — apparently advised him not to do, i think isjust a apparently advised him not to do, i think is just a little apparently advised him not to do, i think isjust a little reminder that the things— think isjust a little reminder that the things that he keep tripping him up the things that he keep tripping him up our— the things that he keep tripping him up our character flaws that he cannot — up our character flaws that he cannot help himself. so, there is a slow— cannot help himself. so, there is a slow drip, — cannot help himself. so, there is a slow drip, a — cannot help himself. so, there is a slow drip, a lot of people are holding — slow drip, a lot of people are holding their fire to see what the final report looks like. i think you'll— final report looks like. i think you'll see _ final report looks like. i think you'll see a slow drip and erosion of report— you'll see a slow drip and erosion of report because in the end, the bottom _ of report because in the end, the bottom line is these are serious times— bottom line is these are serious times that — bottom line is these are serious times that require serious prime minister— times that require serious prime minister who can times that require serious prime ministerwho can grip times that require serious prime minister who can grip these issues that we _ minister who can grip these issues that we face as we come out of this pandemic — that we face as we come out of this pandemic. time and time again, he has proven— pandemic. time and time again, he has proven himself not to be that person _ has proven himself not to be that person. his has proven himself not to be that erson. , , , , has proven himself not to be that erson. ,, , , ., person. his supporters would say that's the reason _
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person. his supporters would say that's the reason not _ person. his supporters would say that's the reason not to - person. his supporters would say that's the reason not to get - person. his supporters would say that's the reason not to get rid i person. his supporters would sayj that's the reason not to get rid of the prime minister. potentially ukrainian prices and the pandemic as well. let's move on to the guardian. i'm not clearfrom i'm not clear from this, i'm not clearfrom this, i'm not sure if you are, if this is another party which hasn't been listed by sue gray, or whether this is one where there wasn't much information. i should say we've only got the front page, and it may become clearer on the inside. from what i'm looking at, it seems to imply we're talking about the 14th of january, 2021 party. that was a party at which marked the departure of two number ten —— which marked the departure of two numberten —— number which marked the departure of two number ten —— number ten private secretary. but i think one thing that became very clear during the prime minister's statement and the questions yesterday is that there is an awful lot still to come out about
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boris's, where he himself was on all of these days. one thing i found that was striking, was thatjess phillips use her question not to grandstand and speak at length, but simply to say yes or no answer, where you at the party that took place? yes or no question. he refused to answer. that was a party that was highlighted in the sue gray report as happening in his personal flat, into which the police are looking. and that was just a moment at which we saw a labour mp try to get him on record. maybe she's heard some rumours. i think there will be an awful lot more of that kind of stuff and we'll see a lot of efforts to get borisjohnson on record, and he will refuse to do so, about whether he was at these parties. just on the front page we've got. it
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says this was for a couple of his aides, he went in and made a short speech and left after five minutes. that would presumably qualify as a work event. that would presumably qualify as a work event-— work event. well, it was a work event with _ work event. well, it was a work event with prosecco! _ work event. well, it was a work event with prosecco! i- work event. well, it was a work event with prosecco! i think - work event. well, it was a work event with prosecco! i think the more _ event with prosecco! i think the more fundamental point is not whether— more fundamental point is not whether these are parties or not. it's whether these are parties or not. it's the _ whether these are parties or not. it's the fact — whether these are parties or not. it's the fact that these were happening and he claimed he knew nothing _ happening and he claimed he knew nothing about them. he claimed he was absolutely furious that these events, _ was absolutely furious that these events, callthem was absolutely furious that these events, call them what you want, were _ events, call them what you want, were happening in numberten. yet he was attending them. so, it meant he lied to _ was attending them. so, it meant he lied to parliament and he lied to the country, and yes, there is the crime _ the country, and yes, there is the crime of— the country, and yes, there is the crime of the — the country, and yes, there is the crime of the government not abiding by the _ crime of the government not abiding by the rules set for other people who are — by the rules set for other people who are making sacrifices. but there is also _ who are making sacrifices. but there is also a _ who are making sacrifices. but there is also a fundamental principle of integrity— is also a fundamental principle of integrity and standards which means the prime _ integrity and standards which means the prime minister does not stand at
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the prime minister does not stand at the box _ the prime minister does not stand at the box and — the prime minister does not stand at the box and lie. if he was going to events, _ the box and lie. if he was going to events, even if it was for one minute, he _ events, even if it was for one minute, he knew they happened and he told the _ minute, he knew they happened and he told the country something else. that is— told the country something else. that is the — told the country something else. that is the problem, and that's the charter— that is the problem, and that's the charter he — that is the problem, and that's the charter he still needs to answer. let's _ charter he still needs to answer. let's move — charter he still needs to answer. let's move on from party gate. hrt to be sold over the counter. kate, good news. yes, ithink kate, good news. yes, i think so. kate, good news. yes, ithink so. i think this is — kate, good news. yes, ithink so. i think this is about _ kate, good news. yes, ithink so. i think this is about trusting - kate, good news. yes, ithink so. i think this is about trusting women | think this is about trusting women to make their own decisions. and not trying to place for the barriers to them. that trying to place for the barriers to them. �* ., �* , ., them. at the moment, it's a prescription- _ them. at the moment, it's a prescription. yeah, - them. at the moment, it's a prescription. yeah, and - them. at the moment, it's a prescription. yeah, and this| them. at the moment, it's a i prescription. yeah, and this is something _ prescription. yeah, and this is something that _ prescription. yeah, and this is something that a _ prescription. yeah, and this is something that a lot - prescription. yeah, and this is something that a lot of- prescription. yeah, and this is i something that a lot of feminists have worked on for a long time. there's a big documentary by the journalist kate moyer which has come out. i think we having a conversation about this aren't we, that we haven't had previously, and i'm quite ready to see it.—

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