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�* action could sullivan sang that any action could include a rapid assault on the capital kyiv. much more on hello and welcome to dateline london. i'm annita mcveigh. and this week, we assess the diplomatic efforts going on to persuade president putin not to invade ukraine. we also look at the alarming rise in the cost of living and compare what governments are doing to try to ease the pressure. and i'll find out from my guests which stories they think ought to be getting more of our attention. i'm joined by the london correspondent of the sydney morning herald, latika bourke, henry chu of the los angeles times,
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and in the studio with me this evening, the bbc�*s special correspondent clive myrie. welcome to you all. so let's begin with ukraine and that question of whether diplomacy can work even as russia starts large—scale military drills with neighbouring belarus. while the usa and other countries have told their citizens in ukraine to leave the country as soon as possible, all interested parties say there's a will to continue talks and a will to negotiate. russia's main focus, it seems, is still on the us. crucially, russia has yet again emphasised that it feels its security concerns around potential nato expansion have not been answered. after talks involving a number of world leaders, hosted by president biden, nato�*s secretary general jens stoltenberg said they stood united and prepared for any scenario and remained open for dialogue. henry, may i start with you? is this intense diplomacy, henry, getting us
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anywhere? wejust heard intense diplomacy, henry, getting us anywhere? we just heard from the us that it believes we are now, the world is now in the window very much where action by russia could begin, potentially, according to president fighting's national attorney adviser, even before the winter olympics and the —— president biden's national security adviser. to the extent that bullets are not yet flying and no blood has been shed, that's a good thing, and the more talking to can be done, the better, to try to put that prospect far off or prevent it altogether, but we also need to just look at what is happening on the ground during this time that the negotiation have been happening. you have ukraine almost encircled on all four sides of the north, south, eat and east, by russian forces, by land and east, by russian forces, by land and by sea, the forces are in easy striking distance of kyiv was certainly from belarus, where they've been conducting joint military drills, and that's just allowed president putin in russia to keep on piling on the pressure, making this invasion look like it
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could happen at any moment and getting a position for such a thing, and on the other side, to the west, you've got nato and the us deploying more troops, sending more of them to the front line eastern flank areas of the alliance, now the two are locked in this dance where if we're not careful, through its own inexorable logic, it would take us right off the cliff. in terms of what the talking has achieved, lesser member therefore president putin, he could be playing a long game, and when you have set yourself up game, and when you have set yourself up to be leaderfor game, and when you have set yourself up to be leader for life, game, and when you have set yourself up to be leaderfor life, you can take a long view. and what he has already done is have these other countries that he thinks of as antagonists dance in attendance upon him, the flurry of meetings at very high levels with countries that had shut russia out or ignored it to a certain degree staggering, and now russia is receiving the attention moscow things it deserves. you have
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that happening annuals of the allies who, for other professions of unity, as i do a lot of talking to see what measures they are willing to impose and sacrifices they are willing to put up with in case of a russian invasion, and the government in kyiv is being undermined daily by misinformation, by russia, and by morale sapping through all this talk of invasion. so certainly putin has achieved something with dragging this crisis out as much as possible. latika, once aggression has been in all the diplomacy that ukraine adopts a neutral position, and do you think that, ultimately, that is where the diplomacy might be heading, even though that on the face of it seems contradictory with the idea of ukraine determining its future? it has express that desire to at some pointjoin nato. yes. future? it has express that desire to at some point join nata.- to at some point “oin nato. yes, i think that to at some point join nato. yes, i think that ukraine _ to at some point join nato. yes, i think that ukraine is _ to at some point join nato. yes, i think that ukraine is made - to at some point join nato. yes, i think that ukraine is made very . think that ukraine is made very clear— think that ukraine is made very clear where its fortunes lie, and that's_ clear where its fortunes lie, and that's with — clear where its fortunes lie, and that's with nato, not as a neutral state _ that's with nato, not as a neutral state but— that's with nato, not as a neutral state. but either way,
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that's with nato, not as a neutral state. but eitherway, it that's with nato, not as a neutral state. but either way, it does look like diplomacy is running out. there has been _ like diplomacy is running out. there has been a — like diplomacy is running out. there has been a very serious escalation in the _ has been a very serious escalation in the ready— has been a very serious escalation in the ready for both britain and from _ in the ready for both britain and from the — in the ready for both britain and from the united states that we heard there from _ from the united states that we heard there from jake sullivan, just in there from jake sullivan, just in the test— there from jake sullivan, just in the last two hours. or chanson tettihg — the last two hours. or chanson telling his— the last two hours. or chanson telling his counterparts of poland, germany, — telling his counterparts of poland, germany, italy, nato, the european commission, and the united states, that he _ commission, and the united states, that he now— commission, and the united states, that he now fears for your applause security— that he now fears for your applause security -- _ that he now fears for your applause security —— borisjohnson. that that he now fears for your applause security -- boris johnson._ security -- boris johnson. that was not even a — security -- boris johnson. that was not even a message _ security -- boris johnson. that was not even a message we _ security -- boris johnson. that was not even a message we were - security -- boris johnson. that was. not even a message we were hearing from the british government a few hours ago. from the british government a few hours a . o. . from the british government a few hours auo. ., . ., from the british government a few hoursao_ ., . ., from the british government a few hoursauo. ., _, hours ago. that wallace was saying, actuall , hours ago. that wallace was saying, actually, cooperation _ hours ago. that wallace was saying, actually, cooperation had _ hours ago. that wallace was saying, actually, cooperation had gone - hours ago. that wallace was saying, actually, cooperation had gone fromj actually, cooperation had gone from ttelew— actually, cooperation had gone from below 02 _ actually, cooperation had gone from below 02 above zero or about 02 above zero. whether it has been enough. _ 02 above zero. whether it has been enough, next two days will show, but this is— enough, next two days will show, but this is the _ enough, next two days will show, but this is the first time we have seen the united — this is the first time we have seen the united states actually put a timeframe on when they think the invasion— timeframe on when they think the invasion could occur, and we are seeing _ invasion could occur, and we are seeing us— invasion could occur, and we are seeing us media well—informed reports — seeing us media well—informed reports saying that the invasion cody— —— could — — could occur —— could occur in the next few days.
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neutrality— —— could occur in the next few days. neutrality for— —— could occur in the next few days. neutrality for ukraine— i think that time is _ neutrality for ukraine— i think that time is up — neutrality for ukraine- i think that time is u -. , time is up. interesting, clive, latika thinking _ time is up. interesting, clive, latika thinking the _ time is up. interesting, clive, latika thinking the times - time is up. interesting, clive, latika thinking the times of. time is up. interesting, clive, i latika thinking the times of her diplomacy. what is your view on that? the white house warning of what they call false flags and incidents where russia uses, to blame ukraine, trying to blame ukraine for starting military action. but do you think this rhetoric, this brick friendship, if you want to call it that, is part of the natural evolution of the diplomacy in this process? ukraine is a hue diplomacy in this process? ukraine is a huge country _ diplomacy in this process? ukraine is a huge country which, _ diplomacy in this process? ukraine is a huge country which, if - diplomacy in this process? ukraine is a huge country which, if the - is a huge country which, if the russians— is a huge country which, if the russians do— is a huge country which, if the russians do invade, _ is a huge country which, if the russians do invade, they- is a huge country which, if the russians do invade, they are i is a huge country which, if the - russians do invade, they are going have to _ russians do invade, they are going have to subdue. _ russians do invade, they are going have to subdue. and _ russians do invade, they are going have to subdue. and to _ russians do invade, they are going have to subdue. and to do- russians do invade, they are going. have to subdue. and to do that, you need _ have to subdue. and to do that, you need to— have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have — have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have the _ have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have the right— have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have the right assets - have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have the right assets to - have to subdue. and to do that, you need to have the right assets to dol need to have the right assets to do that, _ need to have the right assets to do that, and _ need to have the right assets to do that, and they— need to have the right assets to do that, and they can _ need to have the right assets to do that, and they can move _ need to have the right assets to do that, and they can move weekly i that, and they can move weekly from belarus. _ that, and they can move weekly from belarus, straight _ that, and they can move weekly from belarus, straight down _ that, and they can move weekly from belarus, straight down the _ that, and they can move weekly from belarus, straight down the road, - belarus, straight down the road, straight — belarus, straight down the road, straight into— belarus, straight down the road, straight into kyiv, _ belarus, straight down the road, straight into kyiv, the _ belarus, straight down the road, straight into kyiv, the capital, i straight into kyiv, the capital, would — straight into kyiv, the capital, would not _ straight into kyiv, the capital, would not take _ straight into kyiv, the capital, would not take that _ straight into kyiv, the capital, would not take that long. - straight into kyiv, the capital, would not take that long. but| straight into kyiv, the capital, - would not take that long. but they would _ would not take that long. but they would have — would not take that long. but they would have to _ would not take that long. but they would have to hold _ would not take that long. but they would have to hold the _ would not take that long. but they would have to hold the country- would not take that long. but theyl would have to hold the country and i could _ would have to hold the country and i could result — would have to hold the country and i could result in _ would have to hold the country and i could result in the _ would have to hold the country and i could result in the kind _ would have to hold the country and i could result in the kind of— could result in the kind of counterinsurgency, -
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could result in the kind of counterinsurgency, with. could result in the kind of. counterinsurgency, with the could result in the kind of- counterinsurgency, with the body ba-s counterinsurgency, with the body trags heading _ counterinsurgency, with the body bags heading back— counterinsurgency, with the body bags heading back to _ counterinsurgency, with the body bags heading back to moscow, i counterinsurgency, with the body. bags heading back to moscow, putin does not _ bags heading back to moscow, putin does not want — bags heading back to moscow, putin does not want to _ bags heading back to moscow, putin does not want to see. _ bags heading back to moscow, putin does not want to see. what - bags heading back to moscow, putin does not want to see. what the - bags heading back to moscow, putini does not want to see. what the west has realised — does not want to see. what the west has realised is— does not want to see. what the west has realised is putin's _ does not want to see. what the west has realised is putin's assets - does not want to see. what the west has realised is putin's assets are - has realised is putin's assets are in place — has realised is putin's assets are in place he _ has realised is putin's assets are in place. he has _ has realised is putin's assets are in place. he has been _ has realised is putin's assets are in place. he has been building. has realised is putin's assets are| in place. he has been building up these _ in place. he has been building up these forces _ in place. he has been building up these forces over— in place. he has been building up these forces over the _ in place. he has been building up these forces over the last - in place. he has been building up these forces over the last few- in place. he has been building up. these forces over the last few days and last _ these forces over the last few days and last few — these forces over the last few days and last few weeks. _ these forces over the last few days and last few weeks. the _ these forces over the last few days and last few weeks. the assets - these forces over the last few daysj and last few weeks. the assets are in place _ and last few weeks. the assets are in place in — and last few weeks. the assets are in place in order— and last few weeks. the assets are in place in order to _ and last few weeks. the assets are in place in order to launch- and last few weeks. the assets are in place in order to launch the - and last few weeks. the assets are in place in order to launch the kind| in place in order to launch the kind of invasion— in place in order to launch the kind of invasion that _ in place in order to launch the kind of invasion that could _ in place in order to launch the kind of invasion that could subdue - in place in order to launch the kind of invasion that could subdue the i of invasion that could subdue the country. — of invasion that could subdue the country. but _ of invasion that could subdue the country, but that _ of invasion that could subdue the country, but that does _ of invasion that could subdue the country, but that does not - of invasion that could subdue the country, but that does not meanl country, but that does not mean putin— country, but that does not mean putin has— country, but that does not mean putin has decided _ country, but that does not mean putin has decided he _ country, but that does not mean putin has decided he is- country, but that does not mean putin has decided he is going. country, but that does not mean putin has decided he is going to| putin has decided he is going to invade, — putin has decided he is going to invade, and _ putin has decided he is going to invade, and i_ putin has decided he is going to invade, and i think— putin has decided he is going to invade, and i think it's- putin has decided he is going to invade, and i think it's a - putin has decided he is going to invade, and i think it's a very. invade, and i think it's a very critical— invade, and i think it's a very critical point _ invade, and i think it's a very critical point to _ invade, and i think it's a very critical point to make. - invade, and i think it's a very critical point to make. i- invade, and i think it's a very critical point to make. ijustl invade, and i think it's a very- critical point to make. ijust heard a former— critical point to make. ijust heard a former ambassador— critical point to make. ijust heard a former ambassador to— critical point to make. ijust heard . a former ambassador to washington saying _ a former ambassador to washington saying that — a former ambassador to washington saying that he — a former ambassador to washington saying that he still— a former ambassador to washington saying that he still cannot _ a former ambassador to washington saying that he still cannot believe i saying that he still cannot believe putin _ saying that he still cannot believe putin will— saying that he still cannot believe putin will do _ saying that he still cannot believe putin will do this, _ saying that he still cannot believe putin will do this, because - saying that he still cannot believe putin will do this, because it - saying that he still cannot believe. putin will do this, because it would be the _ putin will do this, because it would be the most — putin will do this, because it would be the most stupid _ putin will do this, because it would be the most stupid thing _ putin will do this, because it would be the most stupid thing to - putin will do this, because it would be the most stupid thing to do. - be the most stupid thing to do. the ukrainians— be the most stupid thing to do. the ukrainians are _ be the most stupid thing to do. the ukrainians are going _ be the most stupid thing to do. the ukrainians are going to _ be the most stupid thing to do. the ukrainians are going to fight, - ukrainians are going to fight, weapons _ ukrainians are going to fight, weapons are _ ukrainians are going to fight, weapons are flooding - ukrainians are going to fight, weapons are flooding in, - ukrainians are going to fight, weapons are flooding in, we. ukrainians are going to fight, - weapons are flooding in, we have nato _ weapons are flooding in, we have nato troops — weapons are flooding in, we have nato troops potion _ weapons are flooding in, we have nato troops potion in _ weapons are flooding in, we have nato troops potion in poland - weapons are flooding in, we have nato troops potion in poland and| nato troops potion in poland and ever near. — nato troops potion in poland and ever near, putin _ nato troops potion in poland and ever near, putin is _ nato troops potion in poland and ever near, putin is still— nato troops potion in poland and ever near, putin is still i - nato troops potion in poland and ever near, putin is still i suspect| ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping _ ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he — ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he can— ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he can get— ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he can get the _ ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he can get the kind - ever near, putin is still i suspect hoping he can get the kind of. hoping he can get the kind of assurances _ hoping he can get the kind of assurances he _ hoping he can get the kind of assurances he has _ hoping he can get the kind of assurances he has been - hoping he can get the kind of. assurances he has been looking hoping he can get the kind of- assurances he has been looking for from _ assurances he has been looking for from the _ assurances he has been looking for from the beginning _ assurances he has been looking for from the beginning by— assurances he has been looking for from the beginning by having - assurances he has been looking for from the beginning by having all. assurances he has been looking for. from the beginning by having all the assets _ from the beginning by having all the assets in _ from the beginning by having all the assets in place _ from the beginning by having all the assets in place. i— from the beginning by having all the assets in place. i don't— from the beginning by having all the assets in place. i don't think- from the beginning by having all the assets in place. i don't think we - assets in place. i don't think we are as _ assets in place. i don't think we are as close _ assets in place. i don't think we are as close to _ assets in place. i don't think we are as close to war— assets in place. i don't think we are as close to war as _ assets in place. i don't think we are as close to war as the - assets in place. i don't think we - are as close to war as the americans are as close to war as the americans are pointing —
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are as close to war as the americans are pointing out, _ are as close to war as the americans are pointing out, or— are as close to war as the americans are pointing out, or the _ are as close to war as the americans are pointing out, or the americans l are pointing out, or the americans are pointing out, or the americans are saying. — are pointing out, or the americans are saying. and _ are pointing out, or the americans are saying, and boris _ are pointing out, or the americans are saying, and borisjohnson - are pointing out, or the americans are saying, and borisjohnson and| are saying, and borisjohnson and the others, — are saying, and borisjohnson and the others, all— are saying, and borisjohnson and the others, all they're _ are saying, and borisjohnson and the others, all they're saying - are saying, and borisjohnson and the others, all they're saying is, i the others, all they're saying is, if you _ the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted _ the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted to _ the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted to do _ the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted to do it _ the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted to do it now, - the others, all they're saying is, if you wanted to do it now, he . the others, all they're saying is, - if you wanted to do it now, he could do it now _ if you wanted to do it now, he could do it now. , ., .,, do it now. interesting to get those different views, _ do it now. interesting to get those different views, and _ do it now. interesting to get those different views, and just _ do it now. interesting to get those different views, and just to - different views, and just to conclude this section of the programme, henry, back to you, someone i spoke to recently about ukraine, an expert on the country, was talking about the job or rather than the war war — the talking— so is that what you think putin is trying to do, extract more concessions?— trying to do, extract more concessions? ~ ,, ., ., , trying to do, extract more concessions? ~ ,, ., ., concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated _ concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, _ concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, and _ concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, and he - concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, and he knows| very calculated leader, and he knows full well that the minute there is an invasion, everything resets, right? some of the concessions he has been hoping for in the talks with us and nato, which he has not gotten yet, their least have been some moves towards saying that there would be a negotiation over the security architecture in europe, it would not exactly be what he wants in terms of complete banishment of
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ukraine and other countries from everjoining nato, but as i said, the minute there are boots on the ground in ukraine, all of that goes off the table, and any of those advantages or gains he would help to of made would completely evaporate and get blown up, so i think he does realise that he needs to have pressure in order to get people to the table and he is willing to keep turning the screws until such time as that at least gets to some point of satisfaction for him. it doesn't mean that there won't be an invasion, but he still has time to let this play out and see if you can rest more concessions from the west. 0k, rest more concessions from the west. ok, well, let's move onto next topic in the dateline. energy costs up, food costs up, taxes up, inflation up. we've been talking about the cost of living crisis in the uk a lot, and this crisis is also global. what are governments around the world doing to help people cope?
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latika, let's begin with you on this, and tell us what the austerely government is doing.— government is doing. inflation in australia is _ government is doing. inflation in australia is around _ government is doing. inflation in australia is around 3.5%. - government is doing. inflation in australia is around 3.5%. that i government is doing. inflation in i australia is around 3.596. that does australia is around 3.5%. that does not sound _ australia is around 3.5%. that does not sound that high compared to the inflation _ not sound that high compared to the inflationjumps we are seeing in the united _ inflationjumps we are seeing in the united states and here in the uk, but for— united states and here in the uk, but for nostril in perspective, it is excellent very high. it is the highest — is excellent very high. it is the highest or— is excellent very high. it is the highest or fastest pace of growth since _ highest or fastest pace of growth since 2014, in australia, the cost of living — since 2014, in australia, the cost of living is— since 2014, in australia, the cost of living is already fairly expensive. salaries are very high, but the cost of living _ salaries are very high, but the cost of living is— salaries are very high, but the cost of living is also very high, so this is a potent — of living is also very high, so this is a potent political issue heading to and _ is a potent political issue heading to and election, but we will see is the government announce some consumer— the government announce some consumer feel—good policies, the trouble _ consumer feel—good policies, the trouble is, — consumer feel—good policies, the trouble is, previous governments have _ trouble is, previous governments have tried — trouble is, previous governments have tried this and they don't really— have tried this and they don't really work. energy prices are one really work. energy prices are one real pressure point in australia. the government has brought in more hydropower— the government has brought in more hydropower trainees the crisis, but with housing and energy prices at record prices in australia, any relief— record prices in australia, any relief there is going to be quickly gobbled — relief there is going to be quickly
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gobbled up. interestingly, on housing, _ gobbled up. interestingly, on housing, new south wales, where sydney— housing, new south wales, where sydney is — housing, new south wales, where sydney is the capital, the state premier— sydney is the capital, the state premier there is starting to announce today this scheme whereby they can _ announce today this scheme whereby they can give equity to the state government and help first—time home—buyers to then acquire their first house. — home—buyers to then acquire their first house, and even a situation where _ first house, and even a situation where parents could get over some of their equity— where parents could get over some of their equity to government and help their equity to government and help their kids _ their equity to government and help their kids get on the housing ladder. — their kids get on the housing ladder, so there are some radical schemes— ladder, so there are some radical schemes in— ladder, so there are some radical schemes in the works, but the cost of living _ schemes in the works, but the cost of living in— schemes in the works, but the cost of living in australia is always an electoral— of living in australia is always an electoral killer, and i think that could _ electoral killer, and i think that could be — electoral killer, and i think that could be a big slippery issue heading _ could be a big slippery issue heading into the election in may. clive, _ heading into the election in may. clive, it — heading into the election in may. clive, it is — heading into the election in may. clive, it is difficult to see how many schemes, whatever government comes up, will do a significant and to ease the immediate pressure on people, and that certainly the case here in the uk. it people, and that certainly the case here in the uk.— here in the uk. it is. you have the scottish government _ here in the uk. it is. you have the scottish government having - here in the uk. it is. you have the l scottish government having one-off scottish government having one—off payments _ scottish government having one—off payments to — scottish government having one—off payments to people _ scottish government having one—off payments to people who _ scottish government having one—off payments to people who are - scottish government having one—off. payments to people who are suffering from fuel— payments to people who are suffering from fuel poverty. _ payments to people who are suffering from fuel poverty, so _ payments to people who are suffering from fuel poverty, so the _ payments to people who are suffering from fuel poverty, so the lowest - from fuel poverty, so the lowest income — from fuel poverty, so the lowest income families— from fuel poverty, so the lowest income families will— from fuel poverty, so the lowest income families will get - from fuel poverty, so the lowest
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income families will get that - from fuel poverty, so the lowestl income families will get that kind of one-off— income families will get that kind of one—off help, _ income families will get that kind of one—off help, £350, _ income families will get that kind of one—off help, £350, again, - income families will get that kind of one—off help, £350, again, tol of one—off help, £350, again, to those _ of one—off help, £350, again, to those in — of one—off help, £350, again, to those in fuel— of one—off help, £350, again, to those in fuel poverty _ of one—off help, £350, again, to those in fuel poverty in - of one—off help, £350, again, to those in fuel poverty in englandl of one—off help, £350, again, to. those in fuel poverty in england as well, _ those in fuel poverty in england as well, but _ those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some _ those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some of— those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some of that _ those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some of that has - those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some of that has to - those in fuel poverty in england as well, but some of that has to be . well, but some of that has to be paid back — well, but some of that has to be paid back to _ well, but some of that has to be paid back. to the _ well, but some of that has to be paid back. to the governmentall well, but some of that has to be - paid back. to the governmental stub you've _ paid back. to the governmental stub you've got _ paid back. to the governmental stub you've got these _ paid back. to the governmental stub you've got these one—off— paid back. to the governmental stub you've got these one—off payments i you've got these one—off payments which _ you've got these one—off payments which will _ you've got these one—off payments which will help _ you've got these one—off payments which will help in _ you've got these one—off payments which will help in the _ you've got these one—off payments which will help in the short—term, i which will help in the short—term, but longer— which will help in the short—term, but longer it — which will help in the short—term, but longer it is— which will help in the short—term, but longer it is about _ which will help in the short—term, but longer it is about getting - which will help in the short—term,| but longer it is about getting down inflation, — but longer it is about getting down inflation, which _ but longer it is about getting down inflation, which is _ but longer it is about getting down inflation, which is heading - but longer it is about getting downj inflation, which is heading towards the 75% _ inflation, which is heading towards the 75% figure _ inflation, which is heading towards the 7.5% figure that _ inflation, which is heading towards the 7.5% figure that the _ inflation, which is heading towards the 7.5% figure that the bank - inflation, which is heading towards the 7.5% figure that the bank of i the 7.5% figure that the bank of england — the 7.5% figure that the bank of england reckons— the 7.5% figure that the bank of england reckons it _ the 7.5% figure that the bank of england reckons it will- the 7.5% figure that the bank of england reckons it will be - the 7.5% figure that the bank of. england reckons it will be around april— england reckons it will be around april time~ — england reckons it will be around april time. you've _ england reckons it will be around april time. you've got— england reckons it will be around april time. you've got an - england reckons it will be around i april time. you've got an increase in taxes _ april time. you've got an increase in taxes in — april time. you've got an increase in taxes in national— april time. you've got an increase in taxes in national insurance - in taxes in national insurance coming, _ in taxes in national insurance coming, you've _ in taxes in national insurance coming, you've got _ in taxes in national insurance coming, you've got the - in taxes in national insurance . coming, you've got the increase in taxes in national insurance - coming, you've got the increase in the fuel— coming, you've got the increase in the fuel cap — coming, you've got the increase in the fuel cap as _ coming, you've got the increase in the fuel cap as well, _ coming, you've got the increase in the fuel cap as well, which - coming, you've got the increase in the fuel cap as well, which had - coming, you've got the increase in. the fuel cap as well, which had kept energy prices — the fuel cap as well, which had kept energy prices down _ the fuel cap as well, which had kept energy prices down for— the fuel cap as well, which had kept energy prices down for ordinary - energy prices down for ordinary people — energy prices down for ordinary people it — energy prices down for ordinary people. it is— energy prices down for ordinary people. it is very, _ energy prices down for ordinary people. it is very, very- energy prices down for ordinary people. it is very, very difficult| people. it is very, very difficult indeed, — people. it is very, very difficult indeed, the _ people. it is very, very difficult indeed, the one _ people. it is very, very difficult indeed, the one suggestion - people. it is very, very difficult| indeed, the one suggestion put forward — indeed, the one suggestion put forward by— indeed, the one suggestion put forward by the _ indeed, the one suggestion put forward by the opposition - indeed, the one suggestion put. forward by the opposition labour party— forward by the opposition labour party is— forward by the opposition labour party is a — forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth _ forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth tax _ forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth tax cut - forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth tax cut a - forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth tax cut a tax . forward by the opposition labour party is a wealth tax cut a tax onj party is a wealth tax cut a tax on those _ party is a wealth tax cut a tax on those companies _ party is a wealth tax cut a tax on those companies that _ party is a wealth tax cut a tax on those companies that have - party is a wealth tax cut a tax on| those companies that have made party is a wealth tax cut a tax on - those companies that have made huge profits— those companies that have made huge profits from _ those companies that have made huge profits from extracting _ those companies that have made huge profits from extracting oil— those companies that have made huge profits from extracting oil and - those companies that have made huge profits from extracting oil and gas. - profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had _ profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had huge — profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had huge profits _ profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had huge profits of—
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profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had huge profits of bp- profits from extracting oil and gas. bp had huge profits of bp had - profits from extracting oil and gas. | bp had huge profits of bp had huge profits, _ bp had huge profits of bp had huge profits. they— bp had huge profits of bp had huge profits, they announced _ bp had huge profits of bp had huge profits, they announced £10 - bp had huge profits of bp had huge profits, they announced £10 billionl profits, they announced £10 billion in profits— profits, they announced £10 billion in profits this — profits, they announced £10 billion in profits this week. _ profits, they announced £10 billion in profits this week. the _ profits, they announced £10 billionl in profits this week. the suggestion is that— in profits this week. the suggestion is that there — in profits this week. the suggestion is that there should _ in profits this week. the suggestion is that there should be _ in profits this week. the suggestion is that there should be one—off - is that there should be one—off tax on these _ is that there should be one—off tax on these companies _ is that there should be one—off tax on these companies to _ is that there should be one—off tax on these companies to help - is that there should be one—off tax on these companies to help with l is that there should be one—off tax i on these companies to help with the national— on these companies to help with the national economic— on these companies to help with the national economic picture. - on these companies to help with the national economic picture. the - national economic picture. the criticism — national economic picture. the criticism of— national economic picture. the criticism of that _ national economic picture. the criticism of that is _ national economic picture. the criticism of that is that - national economic picture. the criticism of that is that it - national economic picture. the criticism of that is that it doesl criticism of that is that it does not really— criticism of that is that it does not really help _ criticism of that is that it does not really help with _ criticism of that is that it does not really help with supply, i criticism of that is that it does i not really help with supply, and criticism of that is that it does - not really help with supply, and is the supply— not really help with supply, and is the supply issues— not really help with supply, and is the supply issues longer- not really help with supply, and is the supply issues longer term - not really help with supply, and is| the supply issues longer term that are causing — the supply issues longer term that are causing energy— the supply issues longer term that are causing energy prices- the supply issues longer term that are causing energy prices to - the supply issues longer term that are causing energy prices to go . are causing energy prices to go through— are causing energy prices to go through the _ are causing energy prices to go through the roof, _ are causing energy prices to go through the roof, and - are causing energy prices to go through the roof, and as- are causing energy prices to go through the roof, and as resultj through the roof, and as result causing — through the roof, and as result causing the _ through the roof, and as result causing the squeeze _ through the roof, and as result causing the squeeze on- through the roof, and as result. causing the squeeze on ordinary families — causing the squeeze on ordinary families. consequently, - causing the squeeze on ordinary families. consequently, how- causing the squeeze on ordinary families. consequently, how do| causing the squeeze on ordinary- families. consequently, how do you do with— families. consequently, how do you do with all— families. consequently, how do you do with all of— families. consequently, how do you do with all of this? _ families. consequently, how do you do with all of this? you've - families. consequently, how do you do with all of this? you've got - families. consequently, how do you do with all of this? you've got to i do with all of this? you've got to hope _ do with all of this? you've got to hope that— do with all of this? you've got to hope that at— do with all of this? you've got to hope that at some _ do with all of this? you've got to hope that at some point, - do with all of this? you've got to hope that at some point, energyj hope that at some point, energy prices _ hope that at some point, energy prices come _ hope that at some point, energy prices come down _ hope that at some point, energy prices come down and _ hope that at some point, energy prices come down and that - hope that at some point, energy prices come down and that will. hope that at some point, energy- prices come down and that will have a leveling _ prices come down and that will have a leveling effect _ prices come down and that will have a leveling effect on _ prices come down and that will have a leveling effect on the _ prices come down and that will have a leveling effect on the overall- a leveling effect on the overall economy— a leveling effect on the overall economy generally. _ a leveling effect on the overall economy generally. of- a leveling effect on the overall economy generally.— a leveling effect on the overall economy generally. of the many exerts economy generally. of the many experts think— economy generally. of the many experts think that _ economy generally. of the many experts think that that _ economy generally. of the many experts think that that won't - experts think that that won't happen, oil prices coming down, for some time, in some countries are imposing that windfall tax on oil giants like france, for example,? henry, talk about that in the states. what is printed and biting doing to help hard—pressed people? i know one of the areas he's been looking at is ramping up infrastructure, to create more jobs and so on, but give us a broader
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sense of what it is like in the states at the moment. i sense of what it is like in the states at the moment.- sense of what it is like in the states at the moment. i was 'ust there a few �* states at the moment. i was 'ust there a few weeks i states at the moment. i was 'ust there a few weeks ago, i states at the moment. i wasjust i there a few weeks ago, indeed the pinch on people's quality is really becoming quite felt now. there was one essman that in the month of january, the average house and was looking at a rise in expenditure of about $275, which is a really hefty punch to the gut for many families, working families particularly who are just getting by. working families particularly who arejust getting by. and now you have asked prices as we are talking buckling up, a totemic amount in the us, $3 per gallon — it is preached that in many places. it has come down in a few areas, but still it is hovering at a cost that many americans find extremely hurtful, and but we saw with inflation, now of 7.5%, we have hit that figure in the us. is the biggestjump in 40 years, and what happened in the last month was notjust because supply disruption. we have talked a lot about supply chains being cut
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because of the pandemic, but this time what was driving inflation were rises in the cost of food, of electricity and also of shelter, apartment rents were going up, for example, and so it is really hitting people where it hurts. this infrastructure package you talked about is something that actually finally was passed by divided in this ration and by congress, and that will hopefully bring jobs in many areas where there's a lot of deprivation and also failing infrastructure, which of course makes a feedback loop with poverty, but a larger package that the government has been trying to put through is what's known as the build back better bill, which is more about social welfare, which would include real relief for these pocketbooks issues, such as more childcare help, bringing down the cost of drugs and medicine, but this package has been legally dumped up in congress and notjust by republicans, who we know to a person will oppose it because it is coming from president biden, but for some
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of his own democrats, including joe manchin in virginia and kristin —— kyrsten sinema. and into that object can be overcome, i think americans will go on hurting, that's fine for the gop, because we have got midterm elections coming up in november and, as latika was saying is the case for australia, cost of living rises and what fuels like a real downside for american purses, it is deadly for any ruling party, and so the republicans was early not be averse to seeing more of this pain go on in terms of electoral advantage. pain go on in terms of electoral advantage-— pain go on in terms of electoral advantage. pain go on in terms of electoral advantaae. . . advantage. and, latika, here in the uk, this cost-of-living _ advantage. and, latika, here in the uk, this cost-of-living crisis - advantage. and, latika, here in the uk, this cost-of-living crisis has . uk, this cost—of—living crisis has often been crystallised with the image of people having to choose between food or fuel, image of people having to choose between food orfuel, and ijust wonder, it is the squeeze as that in australia? in wonder, it is the squeeze as that in australia? ., ., , ~ , ., ., australia? in various. australia does a very _ australia? in various. australia does a very good _ australia? in various. australia does a very good social - australia? in various. australia
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does a very good social safety | australia? in various. australia - does a very good social safety net, so it is _ does a very good social safety net, so it is never— does a very good social safety net, so it is never in my mind as acute as some of— so it is never in my mind as acute as some of the shortages that you do see in— as some of the shortages that you do see in the _ as some of the shortages that you do see in the uk, but certainly housing ithink— see in the uk, but certainly housing i think is— see in the uk, but certainly housing i think is the — see in the uk, but certainly housing i think is the big killer. you have a generation of the just cannot afford — a generation of the just cannot afford to— a generation of the just cannot afford to buy a house, and with that comes— afford to buy a house, and with that comes little hope in their future. your— comes little hope in their future. your investment in capital and the feeling _ your investment in capital and the feeling that they belong to the economy, and they for 20 coming to .row economy, and they for 20 coming to grow and _ economy, and they for 20 coming to grow and drive our thrive, and if you separate these generation from the economy, i think that is the longer—term generational issue that you have _ longer—term generational issue that you have a — longer—term generational issue that you have a. find longer-term generational issue that ou have a. . ., �*, longer-term generational issue that ou have a. . . �*, ., , you have a. and that's a big challenge — you have a. and that's a big challenge here _ you have a. and that's a big challenge here in _ you have a. and that's a big challenge here in the - you have a. and that's a big challenge here in the uk . you have a. and that's a big j challenge here in the uk for you have a. and that's a big - challenge here in the uk for the government — leveling up, we hear the westminster government talking about all the time, and that's the big challenge for them, to deliver on that. . , .., , big challenge for them, to deliver onthat. . ,, �* big challenge for them, to deliver onthat. . , , �* ., ., on that. yeah, because you've got to have money — on that. yeah, because you've got to have money to _ on that. yeah, because you've got to have money to deliver _ on that. yeah, because you've got to have money to deliver on _ on that. yeah, because you've got to have money to deliver on all- have money to deliver on all of that _ have money to deliver on all of that we — have money to deliver on all of that we have _ have money to deliver on all of that. we have already - have money to deliver on all of that. we have already seen - have money to deliver on all of| that. we have already seen the government— that. we have already seen the government cut _ that. we have already seen the government cut back— that. we have already seen the government cut back on - that. we have already seen the government cut back on some. that. we have already seen the. government cut back on some of that. we have already seen the - government cut back on some of the attempts— government cut back on some of the attempts to — government cut back on some of the attempts to approve _ government cut back on some of the attempts to approve the _ attempts to approve the infrastructure _ attempts to approve the infrastructure of - attempts to approve the i infrastructure of particulate attempts to approve the - infrastructure of particulate in rail in— infrastructure of particulate in rail in parts— infrastructure of particulate in rail in parts of— infrastructure of particulate in rail in parts of the _ infrastructure of particulate in rail in parts of the north - infrastructure of particulate in rail in parts of the north of. rail in parts of the north of england. _ rail in parts of the north of england, those _ rail in parts of the north of england, those areas - rail in parts of the north of england, those areas that| rail in parts of the north of- england, those areas that voted for borisjohnson — england, those areas that voted for boris johnson in the _ england, those areas that voted for boris johnson in the last _ england, those areas that voted for boris johnson in the last election i borisjohnson in the last election that were — borisjohnson in the last election that were expecting _ borisjohnson in the last election that were expecting some - borisjohnson in the last election that were expecting some kind i borisjohnson in the last election| that were expecting some kind of dividend — that were expecting some kind of dividend as— that were expecting some kind of dividend as a _ that were expecting some kind of
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dividend as a result _ that were expecting some kind of dividend as a result of _ that were expecting some kind of dividend as a result of that - that were expecting some kind of dividend as a result of that post i dividend as a result of that post you've got — dividend as a result of that post you've got to _ dividend as a result of that post you've got to have _ dividend as a result of that post you've got to have an _ dividend as a result of that post you've got to have an economyl you've got to have an economy that is robust _ you've got to have an economy that is robust and — you've got to have an economy that is robust and strong, _ you've got to have an economy that is robust and strong, and _ you've got to have an economy that is robust and strong, and the - you've got to have an economy that is robust and strong, and the gdp i is robust and strong, and the gdp figures _ is robust and strong, and the gdp figures today— is robust and strong, and the gdp figures today actually— is robust and strong, and the gdp figures today actually suggested i figures today actually suggested that the — figures today actually suggested that the british _ figures today actually suggested that the british economy- figures today actually suggested that the british economy is - that the british economy is rebounding _ that the british economy is rebounding and— that the british economy is rebounding and doing - that the british economy is. rebounding and doing pretty that the british economy is - rebounding and doing pretty well, boris _ rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, _ rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, the _ rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, the trip _ rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, the trip for- rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, the trip for him, i rebounding and doing pretty well, borisjohnson, the trip for him, if| borisjohnson, the trip for him, if he gets— borisjohnson, the trip for him, if he gets over— borisjohnson, the trip for him, if he gets over his— borisjohnson, the trip for him, if he gets over his current - borisjohnson, the trip for him, if| he gets over his current problems concerning — he gets over his current problems concerning investigations - he gets over his current problems concerning investigations into- concerning investigations into lockdown _ concerning investigations into lockdown parties— concerning investigations into lockdown parties in— concerning investigations into lockdown parties in downing. concerning investigations into- lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs — lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs onto— lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs onto power, _ lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs onto power, the - lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs onto power, the trip- lockdown parties in downing street, if he hangs onto power, the trip forl if he hangs onto power, the trip for him is _ if he hangs onto power, the trip for him is somehow— if he hangs onto power, the trip for him is somehow balancing - if he hangs onto power, the trip for him is somehow balancing the - him is somehow balancing the competing _ him is somehow balancing the competing interests _ him is somehow balancing the competing interests of - him is somehow balancing the competing interests of those. him is somehow balancing the - competing interests of those people in the _ competing interests of those people in the north— competing interests of those people in the north of— competing interests of those people in the north of england _ competing interests of those people in the north of england that - competing interests of those people in the north of england that he - in the north of england that he needs— in the north of england that he needs to — in the north of england that he needs to support _ in the north of england that he needs to support as _ in the north of england that he needs to support as well - in the north of england that he needs to support as well as i in the north of england that he - needs to support as well as keeping the economy— needs to support as well as keeping the economy on— needs to support as well as keeping the economy on track, _ needs to support as well as keeping the economy on track, given - needs to support as well as keeping the economy on track, given the i the economy on track, given the amount— the economy on track, given the amount of— the economy on track, given the amount of money— the economy on track, given the amount of money that _ the economy on track, given the amount of money that has - the economy on track, given the amount of money that has been| amount of money that has been borrowed, — amount of money that has been borrowed, in— amount of money that has been borrowed, in order— amount of money that has been borrowed, in order to _ amount of money that has been borrowed, in order to cope - amount of money that has been borrowed, in order to cope with| amount of money that has been - borrowed, in order to cope with the covid _ borrowed, in order to cope with the covid pandemic _ borrowed, in order to cope with the covid pandemic.— covid pandemic. challenges for governments — covid pandemic. challenges for governments ever _ covid pandemic. challenges for governments ever to _ covid pandemic. challenges for governments ever to try - covid pandemic. challenges for governments ever to try to - covid pandemic. challenges for| governments ever to try to help people with the cost—of—living crisis. finally, let me ask all three of you to tell us of a story which we ought to be hearing more about but aren't? latika, i will begin with you? today, antony blinken was in melbourne with the quad afford ministers of australia, india and japan, _ ministers of australia, india and japan, and — ministers of australia, india and japan, and he got lots and lots of attention, —
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japan, and he got lots and lots of attention, the news clubs went everywhere, but there was much more important _ everywhere, but there was much more important or— everywhere, but there was much more important or significant bit that should — important or significant bit that should not go unnoticed that happened in australia this week, and i happened in australia this week, and l was _ happened in australia this week, and l was the _ happened in australia this week, and i was the foreign minister of lithuania, who travelled to canberra. growing up in australia, i don't _ canberra. growing up in australia, i don't think— canberra. growing up in australia, i don't think i— canberra. growing up in australia, i don't think i ever heard everybody in my— don't think i ever heard everybody in my reporting or in my personal life raise — in my reporting or in my personal life raise with the when he is a country that anyone knew anything about _ country that anyone knew anything about or _ country that anyone knew anything about or was remotely interested in or even— about or was remotely interested in or even really had a great relation with in— or even really had a great relation with in any— or even really had a great relation with in any way, but this week, that the its _ with in any way, but this week, that the its first — with in any way, but this week, that the its first embassy in canberra, and the _ the its first embassy in canberra, and the reason for this is china, because — and the reason for this is china, because china has been trying to economically coerce lithuania in the same _ economically coerce lithuania in the same way— economically coerce lithuania in the same way that china has attacked and bullied _ same way that china has attacked and bullied australia, now you see these two countries forging a friendship, a relationship, they are going to work— a relationship, they are going to work on — a relationship, they are going to work on trade, australia is going to set up _ work on trade, australia is going to set up a _ work on trade, australia is going to set up a trade office in lithuania, and try— set up a trade office in lithuania, and try and — set up a trade office in lithuania, and try and help that tiny country maybe _ and try and help that tiny country maybe pick out some is lost markets from china _ maybe pick out some is lost markets from china in australia, so china has this— from china in australia, so china has this knack for pushing people
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together— has this knack for pushing people together and perhaps losing friends along _ together and perhaps losing friends along the _ together and perhaps losing friends along the way. together and perhaps losing friends along the way-— along the way. interesting. i guess that's a story _ along the way. interesting. i guess that's a story as — along the way. interesting. i guess that's a story as old _ along the way. interesting. i guess that's a story as old as _ along the way. interesting. i guess that's a story as old as time, - that's a story as old as time, alliances shift, new alliances form. henry, onto you. what should be looking at in more detail? i henry, onto you. what should be looking at in more detail?- looking at in more detail? i think what's happening _ looking at in more detail? i think what's happening on _ looking at in more detail? i think what's happening on the - looking at in more detail? i think what's happening on the border. what's happening on the border between us and canada is really quite remarkable, we are hearing some about it, and particularly in north america... latte some about it, and particularly in north america. . ._ north america... we have talked about this _ north america... we have talked about this quite _ north america... we have talked about this quite a _ north america... we have talked about this quite a lot, _ north america... we have talked about this quite a lot, tell - north america... we have talked about this quite a lot, tell us - north america... we have talked | about this quite a lot, tell us what you think we ought to be looking at it even more closely! it is you think we ought to be looking at it even more closely!— it even more closely! it is no loner it even more closely! it is no longer some _ it even more closely! it is no longer some thing _ it even more closely! it is no | longer some thing happening it even more closely! it is no i longer some thing happening in it even more closely! it is no - longer some thing happening in the us and canada, right? what is remarkable about it is how the because of the rise of social media, instant access to news and what is happening, this is really something that has been spreading around the world, this kind of idea that, through protest by truckers and blocking key infrastructure, this could really bring governments to their knees, so you had this happening in australia, new zealand, where the parliament in wellington
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was being besieged by a lot of truckers, and attempts at this in france, and is even talk that perhaps in the end of this is happening, so i find really tricky, dissent in a democracy needs to be tolerated. it is important that people who have opposing views can express those views. sometimes even ways that inconvenience others. you have now, though, a state of emergency in the state of ontario, the province of ontario, in canada, which is right across from detroit, and it is now rippling across the border to affect the auto industry on both sides of the border, what willjustin trudeau, the prime minister of canada, do? they are already talking about the possibility of tracking down more forcefully, perhaps bringing more police, maybe even military in, to clear this way, but m or to know himself, when in india, farmers were blocking roads into new delhi, he
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was the one who said, canada would always be the sport of free nonviolent opinion, so he really has something tricky on his hands, as will other governments if other truckers follow suit around the world stop what always interesting to see how governments- world stop what always interesting to see how governments manage those com -aetin to see how governments manage those competing interests. _ to see how governments manage those competing interests. and _ to see how governments manage those competing interests. and because - competing interests. and because i've —— clive, your pick? i competing interests. and because i've -- clive, your pick?— i've -- clive, your pick? i would keep an — i've -- clive, your pick? i would keep an eye _ i've -- clive, your pick? i would keep an eye on _ i've -- clive, your pick? i would keep an eye on dealing - i've -- clive, your pick? i would keep an eye on dealing pick -- | i've -- clive, your pick? i would i keep an eye on dealing pick -- the keep an eye on dealing pick —— the olympic— keep an eye on dealing pick —— the olympic linta _ keep an eye on dealing pick —— the olympic linta committee - keep an eye on dealing pick —— the olympic linta committee figure i olympic linta committee figure skater. — olympic linta committee figure skater. not _ olympic linta committee figure skater, not for— olympic linta committee figure skater, not for sure, _ olympic linta committee figure skater, not for sure, because i olympic linta committee figure i skater, not for sure, because russia is banned _ skater, not for sure, because russia is banned an — skater, not for sure, because russia is banned. an amazing _ skater, not for sure, because russia is banned. an amazing skater- skater, not for sure, because russia is banned. an amazing skater for. is banned. an amazing skater for that age. — is banned. an amazing skater for that age. she _ is banned. an amazing skater for that age, she was _ is banned. an amazing skater for that age, she was part— is banned. an amazing skater for that age, she was part of- is banned. an amazing skater for that age, she was part of the i that age, she was part of the winning — that age, she was part of the winning group— that age, she was part of the winning group team - that age, she was part of the winning group team for- that age, she was part of the winning group team for the l that age, she was part of the - winning group team for the russian 0lympic— winning group team for the russian olympic committee, _ winning group team for the russian olympic committee, earlier- winning group team for the russian olympic committee, earlier this i olympic committee, earlier this week, _ olympic committee, earlier this week, she — olympic committee, earlier this week, she won— olympic committee, earlier this week, she won the _ olympic committee, earlier this week, she won the gold - olympic committee, earlier this week, she won the gold medal, | olympic committee, earlier this i week, she won the gold medal, but that middle — week, she won the gold medal, but that middle has— week, she won the gold medal, but that middle has not— week, she won the gold medal, but that middle has not been— week, she won the gold medal, butj that middle has not been presented because _ that middle has not been presented because she — that middle has not been presented because she was _ that middle has not been presented because she was found _ that middle has not been presented because she was found to _ that middle has not been presented because she was found to have i that middle has not been presented because she was found to have had| that middle has not been presentedl because she was found to have had a banned _ because she was found to have had a banned substance _ because she was found to have had a banned substance in— because she was found to have had a banned substance in her—
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because she was found to have had a banned substance in her sample - because she was found to have had a banned substance in her sample in l banned substance in her sample in december — banned substance in her sample in december the _ banned substance in her sample in december. the result— banned substance in her sample in december. the result of— banned substance in her sample in december. the result of that - banned substance in her sample in december. the result of that have| december. the result of that have onlyiust _ december. the result of that have onlyiust come _ december. the result of that have onlyjust come out. _ december. the result of that have onlyjust come out. the _ december. the result of that have| onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that_ onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given — onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given that _ onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given that she _ onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given that she is _ onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given that she is just - onlyjust come out. the suggestion is that given that she is just 15, - is that given that she is just 15, would she _ is that given that she is just 15, would she have _ is that given that she is just 15, would she have on _ is that given that she is just 15, would she have on her- is that given that she is just 15, would she have on her own- would she have on her own potentially _ would she have on her own potentially taking - would she have on her own potentially taking a - potentially taking a banned substance? _ potentially taking a banned substance? the _ potentially taking a banned substance? the allegationi potentially taking a banned i substance? the allegation is beginning _ substance? the allegation is beginning to _ substance? the allegation is beginning to float _ substance? the allegation is beginning to float out - substance? the allegation is beginning to float out therei substance? the allegation is- beginning to float out there now, none _ beginning to float out there now, none of— beginning to float out there now, none of this— beginning to float out there now, none of this has _ beginning to float out there now, none of this has been— beginning to float out there now, . none of this has been substantiated, but this is— none of this has been substantiated, but this is why — none of this has been substantiated, but this is why am _ none of this has been substantiated, but this is why am say _ none of this has been substantiated, but this is why am say we _ none of this has been substantiated, but this is why am say we should - but this is why am say we should keep an — but this is why am say we should keep an eye _ but this is why am say we should keep an eye on— but this is why am say we should keep an eye on this, _ but this is why am say we should keep an eye on this, the - but this is why am say we should i keep an eye on this, the suggestion is that— keep an eye on this, the suggestion is that russian _ keep an eye on this, the suggestion is that russian authorities - keep an eye on this, the suggestion is that russian authorities are - keep an eye on this, the suggestion is that russian authorities are back| is that russian authorities are back to their— is that russian authorities are back to their old — is that russian authorities are back to their old tricks, _ is that russian authorities are back to their old tricks, in _ is that russian authorities are back to their old tricks, in terms - is that russian authorities are back to their old tricks, in terms of - to their old tricks, in terms of wider— to their old tricks, in terms of wider scale _ to their old tricks, in terms of wider scale use _ to their old tricks, in terms of wider scale use of— to their old tricks, in terms of wider scale use of banned - wider scale use of banned substances _ wider scale use of banned substances. as _ wider scale use of banned substances. as i - wider scale use of banned substances. as i said, - wider scale use of banned substances. as i said, all| substances. as i said, all allegations, _ substances. as i said, all allegations, all— substances. as i said, all- allegations, all suggestions, but the idea — allegations, all suggestions, but the idea she _ allegations, all suggestions, but the idea she has _ allegations, all suggestions, but the idea she has taken _ allegations, all suggestions, but the idea she has taken a - allegations, all suggestions, but the idea she has taken a banned| the idea she has taken a banned substance — the idea she has taken a banned substance of— the idea she has taken a banned substance of her— the idea she has taken a banned substance of her own _ the idea she has taken a banned substance of her own volition i the idea she has taken a banned substance of her own volition or| the idea she has taken a banned i substance of her own volition or on her own. _ substance of her own volition or on her own. without _ substance of her own volition or on her own, without anyone _ substance of her own volition or on her own, without anyone else - substance of her own volition or on| her own, without anyone else being aware _ her own, without anyone else being aware of _ her own, without anyone else being aware of it. — her own, without anyone else being aware of it. is— her own, without anyone else being aware of it, is something _ her own, without anyone else being aware of it, is something that- aware of it, is something that people — aware of it, is something that people are _ aware of it, is something that people are going _ aware of it, is something that people are going to _ aware of it, is something that people are going to start - people are going to start investigating. _ people are going to start investigating. there - people are going to starti investigating. there could people are going to start - investigating. there could be a lot more _ investigating. there could be a lot more to— investigating. there could be a lot more to this _ investigating. there could be a lot more to this— more to this. defined mental ruestion more to this. defined mental question at — more to this. defined mental question at stake _ more to this. defined mental question at stake here - more to this. defined mental question at stake here is, - more to this. defined mental question at stake here is, i i more to this. defined mental - question at stake here is, i guess, clive, whether a child, because she is a child, can be held culpable for something — not talking specifically about this case — because, as you
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were saying, these are all allegations, can a child be held responsible for this was yellow exactly. just a minute. anything else to squeeze in? latika? you put me on the spot! _ else to squeeze in? latika? you put me on the spot! something - else to squeeze in? latika? you put me on the spot! something in - else to squeeze in? latika? you put me on the spot! something in the i me on the spot! something in the sydney— me on the spot! something in the sydney morning herald, a great on the p _ sydney morning herald, a great on the p and — sydney morning herald, a great on the p and has revealed that she stole _ the p and has revealed that she stole not— the p and has revealed that she stole not one but two olympic flags in her— stole not one but two olympic flags in her career, and today she has unveiled — in her career, and today she has unveiled the on the picks like she nick from — unveiled the on the picks like she nick from agains prior to the one we all know— nick from agains prior to the one we all know about, so a bit of ozi thievery— all know about, so a bit of ozi thievery on display there! the athletes — thievery on display there! the athletes in beijing have been advised — athletes in beijing have been advised not to follow that one. henry. — advised not to follow that one. henry. in— advised not to follow that one. henry, in a _ advised not to follow that one. henry, in a line? the olympian, american _ henry, in a line? the olympian, american born _ henry, in a line? the olympian, american born but— henry, in a line? the olympian, american born but skiing - henry, in a line? the olympian, american born but skiing for - henry, in a line? the olympian, i american born but skiing for china, and what that has meant for relations between the two sides.
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really interesting to hear you all finish off on epic stories. thank so much, latika bourke, henry chu and of course clive myrie. that is it for dateline london this week. we are back next week at the same time. goodbye. hello there. friday brought us a dry, sunny, cold day thanks to high pressure. very short—lived, mind you. it is set to turn more unsettled tonight, and for the weekend, low pressure will bring wet and windy weather to our shores, with it turning a little bit milder as well. so that's today's high pressure and cold air moving out of the way, being replaced by low pressure, slightly milder air, lots of isobars and weather fronts, so it'll be going downhill across northern and western areas
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through the course of the night. wet and windy weather here. bit of snow over the high ground of scotland initially as it bumps into the cold air, but then milder air moves in. much of central, southern, eastern parts of england will stay dry under clear spells. in the far southeast, it could be quite chilly again. not as cold as the previous night, but much milder further north and west. so a different—feeling day on saturday, more cloud around, more wind — in fact, strong winds, gusty at times — and outbreaks of rain, some heavy for northern and western england, in towards wales. sunshine and showers following for scotland and northern ireland. it will be windy with gales here. but even blustery across the southeast despite it staying dry, with some sunshine here throughout daylight hours. temperatures creeping up a little bit on saturday, maybe highs of 9 or 10 degrees in the southwest. it might not feel like that because of the strength of the wind and the rain. the wet and windy weather reaches the southeast during saturday night. into sunday, we look to the southwest, to a new area of low pressure moving in. and that will start to feed in some pretty heavy and persistent rain in southwest england, wales, northern and
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western england as well. could see some really high rainfall totals by the end of the day across south wales. wetter as well for the southeast. the rain reaches most areas, apart from the far north of scotland. it will be very windy with gales across the southwest, through the channel. and it'll be very wet and windy through sunday evening, as that low slips away into the north sea. eventually, it will clear away. bit of a hang—back of cloud and wind across northern and eastern parts of the country. skies will be brightening up across the south and the west, but here, there will be some blustery showers, these of a wintry flavour, certainly, across scotland, as the air will be a bit coolerfor all on monday — highs of 4 to 8 or 9 degrees in the south. very little change, then, as we head through the rest of the week. in fact, if anything, it turns more unsettled. a spell of gales, even severe gales at times. some spells of wet weather, too, and it will be very mild, especially across the south.
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