this is bbc news. the headlines at four: a russian invasion of ukraine is "highly likely". that's the assessment of the defence secretary ben wallace — comparing some western diplomatic efforts to the appeasement of nazi germany. but the ukrainian ambassador to the uk said it wasn't the best time to offend partners. you can't trust a word of russians, but at the same time, we have to work with them. there is diplomacy. so, we don't trust, but we have to find where we can actually work together to understand how the situation can be defused. the us evacuates most of its embassy staff in kyiv as it expects that a russian military incursion could come "any day". war can take an unpredictable path and if russia does act in the way that we fear it will it will bring tremendous hardship and greater insecurity into the heart of europe. thirteen people are injured

after a mezzanine floor collapses at a pub in east london. people in switzerland vote in favour of tightening the country's tobacco laws, by banning virtually all advertising of tobacco products anywhere young people might see it. and coming up, an unexpected find in the river thames. we speak to the rower who made the unique discovery. the defence secretary, ben wallace, says it's "highly likely" vladimir putin will order russian forces to attack ukraine. mr wallace says current diplomatic efforts have "a whiff of munich in the air" — a reference to the efforts to make a peace deal with hitler before world war two. he's now returning to the uk from a family holiday in europe

early because of his concerns over "the worsening situation in ukraine". russia has up to 130,000 troops along its border with ukraine. the kremlin has repeatedly denied any plans to invade. here's our political correspondent charlotte rose. visits to moscow this week by the uk defence secretary ben wallace along with phone calls by the prime minister and us presidentjoe biden seem to have done little to change the minds of russian leaders. and scenes of tanks rolling up to a european border have made some western politicians fearful of history repeating itself. in an interview with the times this morning, mr wallace said the current situation had, "a whiff of munich in the air from some in the west." which many had thought was a reference to attempts by european leaders to appease hitler before the second world war. but it's been stressed that he still believes attempts at diplomacy to de—escalate the situation are important.

his cabinet colleague was asked to clarify his remarks. he's not talking about appeasement. i think the comparison ben was drawing, i know the comparison he was drawing, it was around the attempts for a diplomatic outcome that it turned out adversaries at the time were not really interested in. is he directing this at france, germany? no, no, the point he is making is that we are all working on this to find a diplomatic outcome. labour says it shares the government's concerns about the seriousness of the situation. it is immensely serious and nobody should be naive about what russia is up to. and the scale of the troops amassing on the ukraine border. and that's why i think there has to be this extremely strong and swift and severe economic sanctions, financial sanctions, looking at the energy sector. meanwhile, this morning came this warning from an american foreign policy adviser. war can take an unpredictable path and we think if— russia does act in the way we fear it will, it will bring _ tremendous hardship and greaterl insecurity into the heart of europe

and that is a concern to all of us. it's a concern to the - united states as a nato ally. brits living in ukraine have been told to leave the country whilst commercial flights are still available. but that's not an option for ukrainian people and the country's president says talk of an invasion is overblown. with the german chancellor due to visit moscow next week, nato allies hope that talking can stop the march towards war. charlotte rose, bbc news. ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky is due to speak to the us presidentjoe biden later today. 0ur correspondent in kyiv james waterhouse says despite the threat, life is continuing as normal for many ukrainians. the government here has described this information about what could happen as unhelpful, whether it will be a full—scale invasion, an air strike on the capital kyiv, or otherwise.

they have called it less than helpful, but they are striking a defiant tone. the foreign minister says the country's diplomacy, military and economy are all stronger than they were eight years ago when russia first annexed crimea. he also gave an assurance that ukraine would be ready for any scenario. that said, it is a crisp day here. ukrainians are getting on with their sunday as normal, going for a coffee and a walk, completely at odds with the growing urgency in political language by western leaders as well as the growing movement of russian troops along the border as well as to the north, a movement of troops that is getting harder and harder to ignore. earlier my colleaguejoanna gosling spoke to ukraine's ambassador to the united kingdom, vadym prystaiko, about the comparison to nazi germany, and whether he believed moscow could negotiate in good faith.

how can we believe after what has happened to us, after all these years of war, previous promises, like, we will defend you if you give up nuclear weapons and getting out of crimea by 2017, which we signed with them, and still, 2022, and they are still there — so we cannot believe or trust the word of russians but at the same time we have to work with them, there is diplomacy, so we don't trust but we have to find where we can work together to understand how the situation can be defused. what is the scope for that? i think we are unfortunately reaching the moment when all the cards are already on the table, all the leaders made their visits, telephone calls, collectively, personally, individually, the russians act quite unhappy that they haven't received the answers on their demands which they put to nato, that nato will roll back on 1997 line. who even remember where the network, 1997? everything which was done already can be done, maybe something more,

maybe, but we are reaching a point where the decision has to be made. well earlier i spoke to andrey kortunov — director general of the russian international affairs council, a diplomatic think tank that aims to integrate russia into the global community through peaceful means. dr kortunov doesn't believe a russian invasion is likely as putin also has a lot to lose. i think he has some specific goals he wants to achieve. maybe in the kremlin they are concerned about ukraine being tempted to use military means in order to change the situation in the east to the benefits of kyiv, and the idea is to deny the ukrainian leadership such an opportunity, or maybe the idea is to get more attention from the west to really listen to russia's complaints, to what putin described as a military cultivation

of ukrainian territory by select nato members, but definitely if it is the goal, the signal was heard by the west, and we have many western visitors coming to moscow to discuss the russian problems with president putin. i'll come back to the idea of nato expansion in the moment, but how helpful have these various phone calls and diplomacy been, with so many players trying to be heard in the melee? my take is that even if these conversations do not generate practical results, they are still helpful, because the russian side continues to maintain that it has no aggressive aspirations towards ukraine, and i think that might create additional guarantees that a war will not take place. how is this story being reported in russia? what is the russian

public�*s view of this? and any appetite they might have for military action, which of course president putin will be only too keen to placate any concerns. my take is that today russians are much more concerned about domestic social and economic problems rather than anything abroad, and frankly i think that the public in russia is tired of ukraine, they would like to have better relations with ukraine. i think most russians have finally come to understand that ukraine is a different country with a different culture, with a somewhat different political trajectory, and that has to be respected. it is not what it was eight years ago during the crimea events, because there was a perception that most of the population of crimea would like to reunite with russia. i don't think that today

there is a perception that most of ukrainians would welcome the russian army. let's get the latest recorded covid—19 figures. there were 41,270 new recorded cases in the past 2a hours 52 deaths have been recorded in the past 2a hours within 28 days of a positive covid test, and 37 million 729 thousand 821 people have now received a booster jab at least 13 people have been injured after a floor collapsed at a pub in east london. firefighters rescued seven people who became trapped in the bar in hackney. nickjohnson reports. it was just before five o'clock yesterday afternoon when the floor gave way at the two more years bar in hackney wick. firefighters rescued seven people who were trapped, and paramedics said three people were seriously hurt. another ten had minor injuries.

suddenly there was this earthquake like rumble, and before we know it, suddenly the floor gave way, and we all started to sink, and quite fast. describing the rescue, the london fire brigade said crews used a ladder to make a bridge between the floor and the internal staircase to get people safely out of the building. a statement on two more years' instagram account said the venue would remain closed for now, and added, our thoughts are with everyone that's been affected. the local mp rushanara ali also took to social media to say she was very concerned about the collapse. a spokesperson for the metropolitan police says it has not launched an investigation into the incident. it says the local authority is looking at how this pub floor gave way on a busy saturday afternoon. two nhs hospital trusts are working with police after a doctor from the west midlands was arrested on suspicion of sexual assault.

the sunday times reports that staffordshire police are working with the nhs on a major incident review of the doctor's work at hospitals across the midlands. the force says the 34—year—old man was arrested in december and released on bail. voters in switzerland have backed new legislation banning tobacco advertising anywhere young people might see it. with all the votes counted, 56% of those voting said yes to the ban. the decision brings switzerland — which had lagged behind its neighbours in efforts to restrict tobacco promotion and use — into line with the rest of europe. 0ur correspondent, imogen foulkes is in bern. the swiss people have spoken. yes, the have. the swiss people have spoken. yes, they have- they _ the swiss people have spoken. yes, they have. they have _ the swiss people have spoken. 133 they have. they have proven again that in some of these kinds of policy, they are moving a little faster than their government, and their business leaders, who have advised are noted this very sweeping ban, and said, look, why don't you

adopt a more modest restrictions? tobacco remains a legal product, we cannot have a law which says it cannot have a law which says it cannot be promoted at all. the swiss voters said, well, no thanks. we know we have a right high rates of tobacco consumption in this country, we know most smokers stop and they are teenagers, we want to protect those young people and not leave them open to being seduced, if you like, by the tobacco industry, who have been very good here over the years are promoting their products and promoting them particularly young people. so, that's all at an end now. despite this quite intense campaign by opponents who warned that if we do this, maybe we will be banning adverts for sugar or alcohol, or even the kind of sausages that the swiss love so much, anything that somebody might say is bad for your health. voters didn't buy that, they said we know cigarettes are bad for our health,

we have the figures to prove it, we know it can be deadly, so, yes, let's ban it. know it can be deadly, so, yes, let's ban it— know it can be deadly, so, yes, let's ban it. sausage say for now, we think. thank _ let's ban it. sausage say for now, we think. thank you _ let's ban it. sausage say for now, we think. thank you very - let's ban it. sausage say for now, we think. thank you very much. l let's speak to hazel cheeseman, who is deputy chief executive of the uk health charity action on smoking and health. thanks very much forjoining us. how significant is it that the swiss people have voted in this way? i think is very significant. the swiss regulations on tobacco have been a long way behind the rest of europe for many years. in the uk we limited pretty much all forms of advertising from the early part of the 2000s, we have gone much further than that, point of sale and more recently branding on cigarettes, and we have some of the lowest levels of smoking in europe, so that stroke regulation results in things happening in consumption, that's for the swiss

need. 50 consumption, that's for the swiss need, ,, ., ., consumption, that's for the swiss need, ., ., ,, need. so what happened here when britain and advertising _ need. so what happened here when britain and advertising on _ need. so what happened here when britain and advertising on tobacco, | britain and advertising on tobacco, what's the evidence there was an impact? what's the evidence there was an im act? , ~ impact? they think between advertising _ impact? they think between advertising and _ impact? they think between | advertising and consumption impact? they think between i advertising and consumption is clear, companies don't advertise products if it doesn't work, if it doesn't increase consumption, but also the link between advertising on peoples initiations has been key to what's gone so much better this country, when the rules came in which prohibited many to remote forms of advertising in 2003, we saw, did not have an immediate impact, if you are subjected to advertising when you're 15 and grew with it, it has to take time to have an impact, but children who are sort of ten or 11, it is pivoted and when they get older and might start to

have their first cigarette, the whole visual representation of cigarettes has changed over that period of time and far fewer young people are taking up smoking. it has been a really positive story in this country, as regulations of cumin, smoking initiation has dropped time and time again. smoking initiation has dropped time and time again-— and time again. some of the opponents — and time again. some of the opponents in _ and time again. some of the opponents in switzerland - and time again. some of the| opponents in switzerland are and time again. some of the - opponents in switzerland are saying, look, this is too broad and approach. it is, after all, look, this is too broad and approach. it is, afterall, is look, this is too broad and approach. it is, after all, is still approach. it is, after all, is still a legal product. surely there is some scope for attaining some advertising in some places? what some scope for attaining some advertising in some places? what is our advertising in some places? what is your response _ advertising in some places? what is your response to — advertising in some places? what is your response to that? _ advertising in some places? what is your response to that? the - advertising in some places? what is your response to that? the point. your response to that? the point about tobacco _ your response to that? the point about tobacco as _ your response to that? the point about tobacco as it _ your response to that? the point about tobacco as it is _ your response to that? the point about tobacco as it is yellow - your response to that? the point | about tobacco as it is yellow make your ego, there is no other product on the market, and your ego, there is no other product on the market.— on the market, and nothing else in switzerland — on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that _ on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that kills _ on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that kills one - on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that kills one in - on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that kills one in two i on the market, and nothing else in switzerland that kills one in two of| switzerland that kills one in two of its lifetime users. it isn't like other products, therefore we need to regulate according to the home of places in society. it is notjust that it kills many people, which absolutely does, but the financial

burden on households is massive and for every person that is dying from a smoking—related illness, there are many more which are living with smoking—related illness which is preventing them from working, requiring social care and health care, so the impact is massive on society, so it is totally proportionate that we have pretty strict regulations on this product, because it is not like anything else. . ~ because it is not like anything else. ., ~ , ., sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's hugh good afternoon. two first half tries from hooker jamie george have put england in control of their six nations match in italy. marcus smith got the first try of the game. he converted it as england took at 21—nil lead into half time. eliot daly has already crossed over early in the second half. it is 26-0, it is 26—0, they have already secured a bonus point with the

leader, there is 51 minutes the weather in rome is considerably better than it was in london. where saracens dealt with the wind and rain a little better to beat defending premiership champions harlequins. sean maitland scored one of two tries for sarries in the first half... but the scores were level at half time... only for the home side to pull away through three penalties after the break from alex lozowski to seal a 19—10 win and a league double over their london rivals. liverpool have reduced manchester city's lead at the top of the premier league to nine points after winning 1—0 at burnley... who stay bottom. fabinho with the goal. while newcastle have put four points between themselves and the relegation zone after kieran trippier scored for the second match in a row to give them a third straight win. they've only won four games all season. this one finished 1—0 after aston villa had a goal ruled out for offside via var. wolves have gone above spurs after beating them 2—0. both goals in the first half

from rauljiminez and leander dendoncker taking wolves seventh. it's spurs' third straight league defeat. the late game sees leicester city hosting west ham — who have come under fire again for naming kurt zouma in their squad. but the defender looks to have picked up an injury during the warm up and the king power stadium. he had a long discussion with west ham's backroom staff and has walked off. that game starts at 16.30. caroline weir has a habit of doing what she did again in the women's super league manchester derby this afternoon. her superb goal was the difference between her team city and united, as jo currie reports not even the manchester rain could dampen this highly anticipated derby clash. both teams needing points as they chase _ both teams needing points as they chase european football. manchester city is threatened first, lauren hempel unable to control the ball in front of an open goal.

the highlight of an otherwise underwhelming first hand. after the break, just park tried to start the match into to life only to be denied by the woodwork. manchester united's chances were few and far between. the match looked like it was heading for an uninspiring drawer until this. caroline weir known as a second—half substitute with a moment of magic. caroline weir and as manchester united with moments of sheer brilliance. a little look up, and then the audacious chip. in front of a stadium record crowd, city ahead and ten minutes to hang on. with united unable to mount a response, the home side saw out the win. bragging rights in the bag, city edging closer to the top of the table in the champions league spot. elsewhere,

spurs have gone third above manchester united after two late goals gave them a 2—0 win at bottom side birmingham. aston villa. brighton and leicester all had comfortable wins. hibernian beat arbroath 3—1 to become the sixth premiership side into the scottish cup quarterfinals hibs came from 1—0 down to beat the championship leaders with chris mueller the scoring the third. the win ends their five game wait for a victory. and hoping tojoin them in the last eight, are scottish premiership leaders celtic — they're hosting championship side raith rovers — around 15 minutes gone at parkhead. goalless so far. to the winter olympics where heavy snow in beijing has caused havoc to the ski schedule. with a number of events delayed or cancelled on day 9. it means team gb's katie summerhayes and kirsty muir will go tomorrow in the ski slopestyle qualification instead. but things haven't been affected inside the ice cube... where it's been a good day so far for britain's curlers. eve muirhead and her rink beat denmark and are now third in the table having won 3 of their 5

round robin matches. the top four go through to the semi—finals. and things are going even betterfor the men... bruce mouat and his side made light work of the danes as they won 8—2. earlier, they beat hosts china 7—6. they now sit second in the table having won all but one of their 5 matches. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. the prime minister of pakistan, imran khan, has warned that lynchings will be dealt with the full severity of the law after a man accused of blasphemy was beaten to death. the man was killed on saturday after accusations of desecrating the islamic holy book quran. it comes two months after another incident in which a sri lankan man accused of blasphemy was killed in pakistan, sparking protests. 0ur south asia editor anbarasan ethirajan told me more about the latest incident. there were hundreds of people, according to local media reports, in the district of khanewal, and there was an announcement that

one particular individual that desecrated the holy koran, he set fire to some pages, that was the accusation, but his family said that he was having mental health issues, and despite — he was pleading innocent — this group was trying to target him, and then the local police had arrived at the scene and they were trying to arrest, because desecrating the koran or any insult to islam is a crime in pakistan, so they arrested him, but then because the crowd was really calling for his release and they wanted to take him away, and the local media report said the crowd simply snatched him by force from the police and then beat him to death with stones, and that is why the pakistani officials are now calling for an inquiry to find out whether there was any dereliction of duty by the local police officers. there have been other instances of people being killed over comments that are regarded by some as blasphemous in pakistan.

why is this proving such a challenge to get on top of for the authorities? it is a very sensitive issue in the muslim—dominated pakistan. for a number of years, people have been killed, lynched to death by mobs, on accusations of insulting islam, but the various governments have been hesitant to touch this issue, because even though there have been laws from the british colonial period about insulting religion, these laws were strengthened during the regime of general zia—ul—haq, when the islamisation happen, when the death penalty was also included in this blasphemy law, and that triggered a lot of violent incidents, because people were using this to settle personal scores, and also the religious divide — for example, the ahmadi muslim sect, which were not considered as a part of the mainstream muslim, even they were targeted, and the islamist religious parties, they hold a considerable amount of influence in pakistan,

they hold regular protests, and they are stoutly opposed to removing this death penalty or reforming this blasphemy law, and that's why successive pakistan governments, despite promising to have a look at these laws, to review these laws, they were not able to do it. police in canada are clearing the last protesters from ambassador bridge border crossing to the united states. it's a key border crossing between the us and canada, that carries more than half a billion us dollars' worth of trade each day. by early sunday, only two vehicles and a handful of demonstrators remained. a court ordered an end to the demonstration against covid restrictions on friday. the blockade began almost a week ago in protest of canada's covid restrictions. a separate demonstration in the capital, 0ttawa, is continuing. as he went out for a row one morning on the river thames in london, graphic designer simon hunt came across a rather unexpected find. lying on the pebbles and rocks

of the riverbed at low tide, he discovered a human bone. when the police carbon—dated it, it turned out to be more than 5,000 years old. well simon huntjoins me now, and he happens to be a bbc colleague. i know you've got this phone with you, we have got to see it. show us what it looks like.— you, we have got to see it. show us what it looks like._ wow, i what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very — what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very dark— what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very dark in _ what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very dark in colour. - what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very dark in colour. when - what it looks like. here are. wow, it's a very dark in colour. when he| it's a very dark in colour. when he found it, what we are immediate thoughts? found it, what we are immediate thou~hts? ~ , , thoughts? well, i 'ust put the boat in the water. — thoughts? well, i 'ust put the boat in the water, it — thoughts? well, i 'ust put the boat in the water, it is — thoughts? well, ijust put the boat in the water, it is quite _ thoughts? well, ijust put the boat in the water, it is quite low- thoughts? well, ijust put the boat in the water, it is quite low tide . in the water, it is quite low tide in the water, it is quite low tide in the water is very clear, i could see the subject on the river, probably about a foot underneath the water, and my initial thought was, i recognised as a bone, but kind of assumed it might be an animal bone, and i was rowing with friends of mine, ijust be quite funny to pick

out of the water and go, oh, i found a bone, found a bone! when i picked up a bone, found a bone! when i picked up out of the water i was kind of staring at this, which i recognised as a hipjoint, and then i thought, that cannot be... can't think of an animal with a hipjoint like that cannot be... can't think of an animal with a hip joint like that, and then i actually put the bone in the boat with me, carried on my morning row, and when we got back, the few of us that were there, we looked at it and say, this is definitely a human bone, and i'd better do something about it. 50. better do something about it. so, what did you _ better do something about it. so, what did you do, what's the protocol?— what did you do, what's the rotocol? ~ ., , �* , protocol? well, i wasn't sure, so i -honed protocol? well, i wasn't sure, so i phoned the _ protocol? well, i wasn't sure, so i phoned the police _ protocol? well, i wasn't sure, so i phoned the police thinking, - protocol? well, i wasn't sure, so i phoned the police thinking, my i phoned the police thinking, my initial thinking was this is old, it looks really old, and then of course you're thinking, well, what if it isn't? this could be quite sinister or criminal. so, phoned the police, which was sort of amusing because they weren't quite sure what to do

originally either, they won't show up originally either, they won't show up films to fellow know who to but eventually they set to be to officers around in the afternoon who are very excited when they saw it, they recognise as a human bone, but ijy they recognise as a human bone, but by this time the tide has come in, the asthma to show them exactly where a founder, and obviously i couldn't because it's about 20 feet underwater, so they hold a few forms in and took it away in the following day a detective came to the house and she interviewed me, took a full statement, and said they would send it away to be carbon dated. find it it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned _ it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out _ it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out to _ it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out to be _ it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out to be a _ it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out to be a lot - it away to be carbon dated. and it has turned out to be a lot older. has turned out to be a lot older than even you thought. how did you think it wasn't our day is it? i wasn't too sure, when they phoned me up, she said, ok, it's really old. have a guess how old. i was thinking, i don't know, medieval? where i was rowing, used to be a

roman crossing point, so i thought maybe even roman, but she said no, it's between 3000 and 3065... and i was thinking 3000? and she was saying bc, so it's five and half thousand years old, neolithic. what thousand years old, neolithic. what can ou thousand years old, neolithic. what can you tell — thousand years old, neolithic. what can you tell us _ thousand years old, neolithic. what can you tell us about _ thousand years old, neolithic. what can you tell us about the _ thousand years old, neolithic. what can you tell us about the length of it and the height of whoever belong to it would have been? irate it and the height of whoever belong to it would have been?— it and the height of whoever belong to it would have been? we don't know whether it is — to it would have been? we don't know whether it is male _ to it would have been? we don't know whether it is male or _ to it would have been? we don't know whether it is male or female, - to it would have been? we don't know whether it is male or female, that - whether it is male or female, that can only be done by dna testing, and once the police knew it was that there are no longer of interest in it, so they didn't take any further. i'm hoping to give it to the museum of london, who are meeting on tuesday, and then hoping if they'd take it they can do some further testing and dna testing, find out if it is male or female. testing and dna testing, find out if it is male orfemale. a testing and dna testing, find out if it is male or female. a friend who is an archaeologist asked me to measure it, they estimate about 57,

—— five foot seven, five foot that is quite tall for that period, isn't it? ithink is quite tall for that period, isn't it? i think so, is quite tall for that period, isn't it? ithink so, i'm no is quite tall for that period, isn't it? i think so, i'm no expert, is quite tall for that period, isn't it? ithink so, i'm no expert, but i'm hoping the museum of london will be able to throw light on this. in the meantime, when you it? be able to throw light on this. in | the meantime, when you it? yes, be able to throw light on this. in i the meantime, when you it? yes, i was auoin the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to _ the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to say — the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to say is _ the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to say is a _ the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to say is a bone - the meantime, when you it? yes, i was going to say is a bone of - was going to say is a bone of contention in the house, that's terrible! it's wrapped up in bubble wrap in a bag in the house, but it will be leaving very soon. it’s wrap in a bag in the house, but it will be leaving very soon.- will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum _ will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum on _ will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum on the _ will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum on the shelf - will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum on the shelf at - will be leaving very soon. it's not a momentum on the shelf at the | a momentum on the shelf at the moment? ~ , ,., , a momentum on the shelf at the moment? ~ ,,., , ., a momentum on the shelf at the moment? ~ , , ., ., ., , moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, moment? absolutely not, and to be honest. it's — moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, it's kind _ moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, it's kind of— moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, it's kind of odd _ moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, it's kind of odd in _ moment? absolutely not, and to be honest, it's kind of odd in that - honest, it's kind of odd in that respect, because as well as being, 0k, it is a bone, it's very old, but it was a person, and there is a bit of respect about this, as well, because it was a human, they had a life, they had family, they were living not far from where i am now,

in a very different world,