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it is important i am the president. it is important for all our partners and friends not to agree about anything behind our back, and i do believe that this is the case, and i had a very important meetings to date with the leaders of different countries, and still more to go. i would like you to hear, to see, to ask questions and get the answers, to understand the level of resilience of our country. we are not panicking, we are very consistent. we are not responding to any provocations. we have our own vaccine already developed for that. not as good as the covid vaccine, but this vaccine is already eight years old. we all know that things need to be reacting to and there are things that shouldn't. we know when soldiers are being killed, we have to response. we understand who is
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killing us, we understand what these military groups are, but we also understand when they are shooting from the localities surrounded civilians. to provoke us, for us to respond, and to start an escalation on the other side in response to the fire. it is also important for us to be on the same page in terms of information. the fact that the partners are sharing with us the information, we are very grateful for that by the way, for the cooperation of our intelligences. here in this tension from many, many years now. we don't think that we need to panic, we think that these risks are indeed very high, because we have more troops, 150,000 troops, on our borders. yes, that is a big
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risk. but a very big risk if we respond, if we do respond to one publication or the other. on the other hand, i think that the russian federation, and we talked about russia, this is the people. the people of russia. i don't think they will not be able to go to war against ukraine. i don't think they will be able to go to war against ukraine. we have a lot of provocations, and we see them, we see through the mass media and how they are disseminating different provocative information. we need to preserve our stability, we need to keep calm and be adults. at this time, the ukraine army... fix, keep calm and be adults. at this time, the ukraine army... a, bit keep calm and be adults. at this time, the ukraine army... a bit of escalation — time, the ukraine army... a bit of escalation on _ time, the ukraine army... a bit of escalation on the _ time, the ukraine army... a bit of escalation on the false _ time, the ukraine army... a bit of escalation on the false flag - time, the ukraine army... a bit of| escalation on the false flag issues. you havejust escalation on the false flag issues. you have just talked about two ukrainian soldiers being killed. the
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russians say mines have exploded. ukrainian mines on their side of the border. we have seen this rhetoric before, we understand the concept of false flags. but how tense is that? how do you think you can stop it? you know, how do you consider the level of the current provocations? translation: an? level of the current provocations? translation:— level of the current provocations? translation: any provocations are very dangerous. — translation: any provocations are very dangerous, as _ translation: any provocations are very dangerous, as i _ translation: any provocations are very dangerous, as i already - translation: any provocations are very dangerous, as i already said. i l very dangerous, as i already said. i think_ very dangerous, as i already said. i think the _ very dangerous, as i already said. i think the most completed question is that in_ think the most completed question is that in the _ think the most completed question is that in the temporary occupation of the crimea — that in the temporary occupation of the crimea and the donbas, on the borders_ the crimea and the donbas, on the borders of— the crimea and the donbas, on the borders of ukraine and russia, there are 35,000 — borders of ukraine and russia, there are 35,000 on the temporary occupied territories _ are 35,000 on the temporary occupied territories. there are 35,000 on other— territories. there are 35,000 on other borders. provocations are indeed — other borders. provocations are indeed very dangerous if you have this amount of troops. one shilling, one fire, _ this amount of troops. one shilling, one fire, cannon fire, can lead to
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war _ one fire, cannon fire, can lead to war we — one fire, cannon fire, can lead to war. we perfectly understand, as i said, _ war. we perfectly understand, as i said. i_ war. we perfectly understand, as i said. ido— war. we perfectly understand, as i said, i do think so. this is what our partners _ said, i do think so. this is what our partners believe, the partners that are _ borders with us and know the history of the soviet union. they do understand the current risks we are facing _ understand the current risks we are facing. poland, the baltic states, lithuania, — facing. poland, the baltic states, lithuania, estonia, latvia, moldova, they know— lithuania, estonia, latvia, moldova, they know what that could lead to. so we _ they know what that could lead to. so we need to be very careful. i can't _ so we need to be very careful. i can't tell— so we need to be very careful. i can't tell you about what will happen — can't tell you about what will happen now. if you compare it to 2014 _ happen now. if you compare it to 2014 or _ happen now. if you compare it to 2014 or 2015, they were much more casualties, — 2014 or 2015, they were much more casualties, unfortunately. when someone — casualties, unfortunately. when someone in mass media says that now this is_ someone in mass media says that now this is the _ someone in mass media says that now this is the most horrific situation, that is_ this is the most horrific situation, that is not— this is the most horrific situation, that is not true. it is horrible, it is a _ that is not true. it is horrible, it is a tragedy— that is not true. it is horrible, it is a tragedy for our nation and our people. _ is a tragedy for our nation and our people. it — is a tragedy for our nation and our people. it is— is a tragedy for our nation and our people, it is a tragedy. in future, you will_
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people, it is a tragedy. in future, you will see — people, it is a tragedy. in future, you will see that this is the tragedy— you will see that this is the tragedy for russians as well. we used _ tragedy for russians as well. we used to— tragedy for russians as well. we used to have good relationship with ukraine. _ used to have good relationship with ukraine, but how do we stay members and neighbours and live with each other— and neighbours and live with each other from — and neighbours and live with each other from now on? we are at a different— other from now on? we are at a different point of our life. we are not talking about the neighbourhood, we are _ not talking about the neighbourhood, we are talking about the war. and it shouldn't— we are talking about the war. and it shouldn't start. this is why the risk is — shouldn't start. this is why the risk is high _ shouldn't start. this is why the risk is high. what was shown yesterday on the temporary occupied territory. _ yesterday on the temporary occupied territory, they showed some shelling. _ territory, they showed some shelling, allegedly, flying from our side and _ shelling, allegedly, flying from our side and then they have shown something flying all the way to the rostov— something flying all the way to the rostov region of russia. this is to me a _ rostov region of russia. this is to me a blunt — rostov region of russia. this is to me a blunt provocation of these are pure lies _ me a blunt provocation of these are pure lies. there is no one dead or wounded. — pure lies. there is no one dead or wounded, this isjust a cynicism of such— wounded, this isjust a cynicism of such a _ wounded, this isjust a cynicism of such a high— wounded, this isjust a cynicism of such a high level that they are blowing — such a high level that they are blowing up something on their side and shooting, because this is not the first— and shooting, because this is not the first time since 2014 that they are aiming — the first time since 2014 that they are aiming their guns and shooting
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at the— are aiming their guns and shooting at the territory that they themselves control. this is the kind of cynicism — themselves control. this is the kind of cynicism. and we, or we care about— of cynicism. and we, or we care about is— of cynicism. and we, or we care about is peace. and i mentioned this many— about is peace. and i mentioned this many times— about is peace. and i mentioned this many times to the president of the russian _ many times to the president of the russian federation and angela merkel and president macron in 2019. we have _ and president macron in 2019. we have sent — and president macron in 2019. we have sent a — and president macron in 2019. we have sent a massive amount of signals— have sent a massive amount of signals and we have passed them onto a different— signals and we have passed them onto a different world leaders and directly— a different world leaders and directly to the russian federation that we _ directly to the russian federation that we are ready to sit down and speak _ that we are ready to sit down and speak. speak to the platform that you like. — speak. speak to the platform that you like, pick the partners that will be — you like, pick the partners that will be there around the tables with us. will be there around the tables with us we _ will be there around the tables with us we are — will be there around the tables with us. we are ready and prepared for that _ us. we are ready and prepared for that what — us. we are ready and prepared for that. what is the point of us shooting _ that. what is the point of us shooting and proposing diplomacy at the same _ shooting and proposing diplomacy at the same time? speaking! you can stop me _ the same time? speaking! you can stop me when you want! canl
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the same time? speaking! you can stop me when you want!— the same time? speaking! you can stop me when you want! can i ask you how ou stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel— stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel compare _ stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel compare to _ stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel compare to a _ stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel compare to a few - stop me when you want! can i ask you how you feel compare to a few days i how you feel compare to a few days ago? i think has been amazed at the solidarity between the united states and your country and the europe and the united front. and the extraordinary departure that the united states has used intelligence to telegraph exactly what it sees president putin are doing. you have said different things about that, that on the one hand it could sow panic and you will remain disciplined. you just said again, you are not going to panic. how do you are not going to panic. how do you evaluate the us aggressive use of intelligence to try to dissuade president putin? translation: it president putin? translation: , '. ., translation: it is difficult for me to 'udue translation: it is difficult for me to judge how _ translation: it is difficult for me to judge how the — translation: it is difficult for me to judge how the united _ translation: it is difficult for me to judge how the united states - tojudge how the united states should — tojudge how the united states should be using that intelligence. i guess— should be using that intelligence. i guess they are doing it in a professional manner, this is their choice _ professional manner, this is their choice i— professional manner, this is their choice lam _
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professional manner, this is their choice. i am grateful for the work that both — choice. i am grateful for the work that both of our intelligences have been _ that both of our intelligences have been doing. the intelligence i trust is my— been doing. the intelligence i trust is my intelligence stop i trust ukrainian _ is my intelligence stop i trust ukrainian intelligence. and those who understand what is going on along _ who understand what is going on along our— who understand what is going on along our borders will have different intelligence sources and understand different risks based on a different data. we are talking about _ a different data. we are talking about how this information should be used _ about how this information should be used i_ about how this information should be used. i repeat this many times, we are not— used. i repeat this many times, we are not really living in delusion, we understand what can happen and what will _ we understand what can happen and what will happen tomorrow. but maybe the comparison i will make is not good. _ the comparison i will make is not good. but — the comparison i will make is not good, but putting ourselves in coffins — good, but putting ourselves in coffins and waiting for foreign soldiers — coffins and waiting for foreign soldiers to come in is not something we are _ soldiers to come in is not something we are prepared to do. we are not going _ we are prepared to do. we are not going to _ we are prepared to do. we are not going to advance on anyone, but we stand _ going to advance on anyone, but we stand ready— going to advance on anyone, but we stand ready to respond. we cannot remain— stand ready to respond. we cannot remain passive, we cannot say on a daily—
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remain passive, we cannot say on a daily basis— remain passive, we cannot say on a daily basis that what will happen tomorrow. what kind of state, what kind of— tomorrow. what kind of state, what kind of economy will it be? how can people _ kind of economy will it be? how can people live — kind of economy will it be? how can people live in went on a daily basis we are _ people live in went on a daily basis we are being told that tomorrow the what will _ we are being told that tomorrow the what will happen? that's a morally advance _ what will happen? that's a morally advance will happen? it means crashing — advance will happen? it means crashing national currency, business flying _ crashing national currency, business flying out— crashing national currency, business flying out my can you live in that kind of— flying out my can you live in that kind of country? can you have stability— kind of country? can you have stability in _ kind of country? can you have stability in that kind of country? no. stability in that kind of country? no and — stability in that kind of country? no. and those who want to disbalance our country— no. and those who want to disbalance our country from within our multiple _ our country from within our multiple. and everyone wants ukraine to be weak. _ multiple. and everyone wants ukraine to be weak, a weak economy, weak army. _ to be weak, a weak economy, weak army. and _ to be weak, a weak economy, weak army. and if— to be weak, a weak economy, weak army, and if there is a weak army, you can _ army, and if there is a weak army, you caniust— army, and if there is a weak army, you canjust go ahead and invade. and we _ you canjust go ahead and invade. and we will— you canjust go ahead and invade. and we will not be able to protect our people and our children or the economy — our people and our children or the economy. this is why i response is very calm — economy. this is why i response is very calm. we have to assess it, we have _ very calm. we have to assess it, we have to _ very calm. we have to assess it, we have to think— very calm. we have to assess it, we have to think not how to react to what _ have to think not how to react to what i _ have to think not how to react to what ljust— have to think not how to react to what ijust said, but i have to digest— what ijust said, but i have to digest the _ what ijust said, but i have to digest the information and
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understand what will happen in my reaction. _ understand what will happen in my reaction, what will happen to my people. — reaction, what will happen to my people, what will happen after the people _ people, what will happen after the people run to the banks to take money— people run to the banks to take money from their deposit accounts after they— money from their deposit accounts after they start fearing. on the panic— after they start fearing. on the panic will— after they start fearing. on the panic will start. we have the information war, the hybrid war going _ information war, the hybrid war going on — information war, the hybrid war going on. this is why ukrainians are not giving _ going on. this is why ukrainians are not giving up. in different senses of the _ not giving up. in different senses of the word, we want to live day after _ of the word, we want to live day after day — of the word, we want to live day after day and protect our country. if you _ after day and protect our country. if you want — after day and protect our country. if you want to help us, we have lots of examples. apart from this, there is a lot— of examples. apart from this, there is a lot of— of examples. apart from this, there is a lot of very concrete things strengthen our army, give us more armament. — strengthen our army, give us more armament, strengthen our economy, invest— armament, strengthen our economy, invest in— armament, strengthen our economy, invest in our— armament, strengthen our economy, invest in our country, bring your business — invest in our country, bring your business here. if you are afraid, give _ business here. if you are afraid, give us — business here. if you are afraid, give us cheap financing, give us grant _ give us cheap financing, give us grant support. why when we are giving _ grant support. why when we are giving money, why are we always getting _ giving money, why are we always getting these connections? you have
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to do one. _ getting these connections? you have to do one, two, three, four, five and _ to do one, two, three, four, five and other— to do one, two, three, four, five and other reforms. is there any other— and other reforms. is there any other country in the world who would have such _ other country in the world who would have such a — other country in the world who would have such a strong arming on the eastern _ have such a strong arming on the eastern borders with all of these reforms — eastern borders with all of these reforms are polluted at the same time? _ reforms are polluted at the same time? that is not easy. but we are not panicking, want to live as a strong — not panicking, want to live as a strong country, that is it. you talked again _ strong country, that is it. you talked again about _ strong country, that is it. you. talked again about nato. translation: i talked again about nato. translation:— talked again about nato. translation: , ., ., ., translation: i 'ust wanted to add, i'm sor translation: i 'ust wanted to add, m sorry for — translation: ijust wanted to add, i'm sorry for interrupting _ translation: ijust wanted to add, i'm sorry for interrupting you, - translation: ijust wanted to add, i'm sorry for interrupting you, we i i'm sorry for interrupting you, we had a _ i'm sorry for interrupting you, we had a discussion some time ago with one of— had a discussion some time ago with one of the _ had a discussion some time ago with one of the leaders, one of the leading — one of the leaders, one of the leading countries. we were talking about— leading countries. we were talking about the — leading countries. we were talking about the sanction policy. we have a different _ about the sanction policy. we have a different vision on how sanctions should _ different vision on how sanctions should be — different vision on how sanctions should be applied when russian aggression will happen. and we are being _ aggression will happen. and we are being told _ aggression will happen. and we are being told that you have several days and — being told that you have several days and then the war will start, and i_ days and then the war will start, and i said. — days and then the war will start, and i said, "ok, then apply the sanctions — and i said, "ok, then apply the sanctions today." "yes, we apply
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sanctions — sanctions today." "yes, we apply sanctions when the war will happen." i am sanctions when the war will happen." i am saying. — sanctions when the war will happen." i am saying, "fine, sanctions when the war will happen." lam saying, "fine, but sanctions when the war will happen." i am saying, "fine, but you are telling — i am saying, "fine, but you are telling me _ i am saying, "fine, but you are telling me that it is 100% that the war will— telling me that it is 100% that the war will start in telling me that it is 100% that the warwill start in a telling me that it is 100% that the war will start in a couple of days, then— war will start in a couple of days, then what — war will start in a couple of days, then what are you waiting for? we don't _ then what are you waiting for? we don't need — then what are you waiting for? we don't need your sanctions after the bombardment will happen and after our country will be fired at or after— our country will be fired at or after we _ our country will be fired at or after we will have no borders or after _ after we will have no borders or after we — after we will have no borders or after we will have no borders or after we will have no economy or parts _ after we will have no economy or parts of — after we will have no economy or parts of our _ after we will have no economy or parts of our country will be occupied _ parts of our country will be occupied. why do we need those sanctions — occupied. why do we need those sanctions then? what is it about?" when _ sanctions then? what is it about?" when you — sanctions then? what is it about?" when you are asking what needs to be done. _ when you are asking what needs to be done. well. _ when you are asking what needs to be done, well, lots of different things can be _ done, well, lots of different things can be done. we can even provide you with a _ can be done. we can even provide you with a list _ can be done. we can even provide you with a list. most important is willingness. so with a list. most important is willingness.— with a list. most important is willingness. with a list. most important is willinrness. ., ., willingness. so you are calling for sanctions to _ willingness. so you are calling for sanctions to be _ willingness. so you are calling for sanctions to be levelled - willingness. so you are calling for sanctions to be levelled now? - willingness. so you are calling for sanctions to be levelled now? he| sanctions to be levelled now? he also talked about nato now. there is obviously, this is the big sensitive issue in this whole issue. and you have just talked about, again, wanting to be part of nato. yet you said you don't expect any nato
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soldiers in your territory now. you specifically said "we want no foreign soldiers with foreign flags on our territory right now." what is your position and wanting to join nato today? translation: ., ., , translation: to respond to the first art of our translation: to respond to the first part of your question _ translation: to respond to the first part of your question about _ part of your question about sanctions, the question is not about introducing — sanctions, the question is not about introducing them today. the whole world _ introducing them today. the whole world understands that tomorrow there _ world understands that tomorrow there is— world understands that tomorrow there is a — world understands that tomorrow there is a hypermobility of escalation by the russian federation two hypermobility of escalation. if the russian federation pulls up, thatll— the russian federation pulls up, that'll be — the russian federation pulls up, that'll be a big step. and there would — that'll be a big step. and there would be — that'll be a big step. and there would be no question. that is a soft option _ would be no question. that is a soft option i_ would be no question. that is a soft option i am — would be no question. that is a soft option. i am talking about the diplomats who cannot apply sanctions automatically, i am talking about the logic — automatically, i am talking about the logic. if they pull back their troops. — the logic. if they pull back their troops, there will be no sanctions.
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but today. — troops, there will be no sanctions. but today, even the question ofjust making _ but today, even the question ofjust making it _ but today, even the question ofjust making it public preventively, just the list _ making it public preventively, just the list of— making it public preventively, just the list of sanctions, for them, the rush is— the list of sanctions, for them, the rush is what— the list of sanctions, for them, the rush is what will happen if they start— rush is what will happen if they start the — rush is what will happen if they start the war —— from russia to know what _ start the war —— from russia to know what will _ start the war —— from russia to know what will happen, let's be honest. i have a _ what will happen, let's be honest. i have a question, why if you cannot even _ have a question, why if you cannot even disclose what will happen to whom _ even disclose what will happen to whom if— even disclose what will happen to whom if the war starts, then the question— whom if the war starts, then the question is— whom if the war starts, then the question is that it will be, i doubt that it _ question is that it will be, i doubt that it will— question is that it will be, i doubt that it will be triggered after it even _ that it will be triggered after it even happens. in terms of nato, we had a _ even happens. in terms of nato, we had a lot— even happens. in terms of nato, we had a lot of— even happens. in terms of nato, we had a lot of debates regarding this in discussions about the world leaders — in discussions about the world leaders and my friends. meanwhile, i have lots— leaders and my friends. meanwhile, i have lots of— leaders and my friends. meanwhile, i have lots of friends among the world leaders. _ have lots of friends among the world leaders. i_ have lots of friends among the world leaders, i will not name them
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because — leaders, i will not name them because they may get offended, ukraine — because they may get offended, ukraine is being supported. but ukraine — ukraine is being supported. but ukraine needs security guarantees. we are _ ukraine needs security guarantees. we are smart people, we are not narrow—minded. we understand there are lots— narrow—minded. we understand there are lots of— narrow—minded. we understand there are lots of different risks because of nato~ — are lots of different risks because of nato. there is no consensus of their— of nato. there is no consensus of their allies. — of nato. there is no consensus of theirallies, everyone of nato. there is no consensus of their allies, everyone is saying there — their allies, everyone is saying there is— their allies, everyone is saying there is some distance that we need to go— there is some distance that we need to go between ukraine and nato that we need _ to go between ukraine and nato that we need to walk. all we are saying is tell— we need to walk. all we are saying is tell us— we need to walk. all we are saying is tell us much time does it take to complete _ is tell us much time does it take to complete this distance? measure it in years _ complete this distance? measure it in years. you see this is not measured _ in years. you see this is not measured just in hours, you can see with the _ measured just in hours, you can see with the tragedies and lives, this is measured in human life of ukrainians. so tell us, on this distance. _ ukrainians. so tell us, on this distance. is— ukrainians. so tell us, on this distance, is it fair for us to get the guarantees while we are still walking — the guarantees while we are still walking this path? some diplomatic guarantees? isn't itjust simply
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fair. _ guarantees? isn't itjust simply fair. no — guarantees? isn't itjust simply fair, no one is pushing anyone against — fair, no one is pushing anyone against the wall with a question for us to— against the wall with a question for us to be _ against the wall with a question for us to be there in nato? that is not the case. — us to be there in nato? that is not the case. we — us to be there in nato? that is not the case, we do want it, but until we have — the case, we do want it, but until we have that possibility, what we want _ we have that possibility, what we want is _ we have that possibility, what we want is security guarantees. | we have that possibility, what we want is security guarantees. i know ou have want is security guarantees. i know you have to — want is security guarantees. i know you have to go- _ want is security guarantees. i know you have to go. can _ want is security guarantees. i know you have to go. can i— want is security guarantees. i know you have to go. can i ask— want is security guarantees. i know you have to go. can i ask you... . you have to go. can i ask you... speaks english— you have to go. can i ask you... speaks english matt. cyberattack. and i have another _ speaks english matt. cyberattack. and i have another one? - speaks english matt. cyberattack. and i have another one? the - and i have another one? the translation? you see russia is not here _ translation? you see russia is not here but— translation? you see russia is not here but they are here. laughter it doesn't work, i'm sorry. i laughter it doesn't work, i'm sor . it doesn't work, i'm sorry. i will talk to you _ it doesn't work, i'm sorry. i will talk to you and _ it doesn't work, i'm sorry. i will talk to you and you _ it doesn't work, i'm sorry. i will talk to you and you will- it doesn't work, i'm sorry. in ii. talk to you and you will understand me. i talk to you and you will understand me, , ., ., talk to you and you will understand me. , ., ., , ., talk to you and you will understand me. , ., , me. i understood you from the very beginning. — me. i understood you from the very beginning. but— me. i understood you from the very beginning, but you _ me. i understood you from the very beginning, but you know— me. i understood you from the very beginning, but you know there - me. i understood you from the very beginning, but you know there are l beginning, but you know there are some _ beginning, but you know there are some very— beginning, but you know there are some very important things. what i want to ask —
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some very important things. what i want to ask you. — some very important things. what i want to ask you, mr _ some very important things. what i want to ask you, mr president, - some very important things. what i want to ask you, mr president, is i want to ask you, mr president, is the us has its intelligence, you say you have yours, what is your interpretation of putin's intention? not his capability, his intention? do you think he will invade and decide to do that? or he has? translation: i decide to do that? or he has? translation:— decide to do that? or he has? translation: ., �* ~ ., ., translation: i don't know what the resident of translation: i don't know what the president of russia _ translation: i don't know what the president of russia at _ translation: i don't know what the president of russia at once. - translation: i don't know what the president of russia at once. that - translation: i don't know what the president of russia at once. that is l president of russia at once. that is why i— president of russia at once. that is why i proposed to meet. speaking! that is— why i proposed to meet. speaking! that is it _ 0n on that note... sorry? your people are telling me that you need to go. when you at all afraid coming here? translation: ida. when you at all afraid coming here? translation:— translation: no, we are friends
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here. translation: no, we are friends here- leaving _ translation: no, we are friends here. leaving it _ translation: no, we are friends here. leaving it unguarded? - here. leaving it unguarded? translation: _ here. leaving it unguarded? translation: my - here. leaving it unguarded? translation: my response here. leaving it unguarded? - translation: my response will be ve brief, translation: my response will be very brief. i — translation: my response will be very brief. i am _ translation: my response will be very brief, i am sure _ translation: my response will be very brief, i am sure that _ translation: my response will be very brief, i am sure that our- very brief, ! am sure that our country— very brief, i am sure that our country is _ very brief, i am sure that our country is in good hands. this is notjust— country is in good hands. this is notiust my— country is in good hands. this is notjust my hands, these are the hands _ notjust my hands, these are the hands of— notjust my hands, these are the hands of our soldiers and our citizens _ hands of our soldiers and our citizens i— hands of our soldiers and our citizens. i think my visit here is important. _ citizens. i think my visit here is important, and i would like to say that i_ important, and i would like to say that i had — important, and i would like to say that i had breakfast in the morning in ukraine — that i had breakfast in the morning in ukraine and i will have my dinner in ukraine and i will have my dinner in ukraine— in ukraine and i will have my dinner in ukraine as— in ukraine and i will have my dinner in ukraine as well. applause that was present zelenskiy of ukraine there. at the munich security conference amongst other things he was saying that it would be too late for the west, the nato countries to impose sanctions on russia if it is after the invasion, they should do it now. he also said
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that he hopes no one thinks about ukraine as a convenient buffer between the west some people were saying he should not have gone to the munich security conference because his position is a bit tenuous, if there were to be some kind of a russian invasion while he was out of the country. anyway, he has been in munich, and he wasjust saying that he hopes will be able to have supper in ukraine just as he had breakfast in ukraine this morning. the prime minister has warned that any russian invasion of ukraine would see the destruction of a democratic state. speaking in the last hour at the annual munich security conference, borisjohnson said nato and its allies were united
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at "a moment of extreme danger". they could not allow themselves to be blackmailed by russia. ukraine says it is concerned by the worsening situation in the conflict zone on its eastern border. russia has today claimed shells have been fired onto its territory. 0ur chief international correspondent, lyse doucet, has the latest. another day of diplomacy. another day where ukraine could be closer to a war. that's the mood here in munich, the warning to moscow from washington... we have engaged in good faith. russia continues to claim it is ready for talks, while at the same time, it narrows the avenues for diplomacy. the image munich wants to send at this hour. ukraine's president zelenskiy meeting western allies
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like borisjohnson. ukraine's leader was advised not to leave his country now, but this show of support matters to him as the west faces off against russia. if ukraine is invaded, and if ukraine is overwhelmed, we will witness the destruction of a democratic state, a country that has been free for a generation, with a proud history of elections. but even now, they are still talking about finding a way out. i think diplomacy has not spoken its last word. it is of paramount importance that we keep up the diplomatic channels. as far as i'm informed, tomorrow president macron will call president putin. but on the ground in eastern ukraine, tensions mount. residents being told to leave their homes by russian russian—backed separatists to take refuge across the border.
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there are more incidents now shelling with ukrainian forces, the worst in years. the mood here in munich is grim. conferences like this are meant to accelerate diplomacy to resolve major world crises. but there is a growing pessimism that they can stop a conflict that could have massive consequences not just for ukraine, but for all of europe and far beyond. lyse doucet, bbc news, munich. around 190,000 homes are still without power. that is after one of the worst storms to hit the uk in decades. three people died in storm eunice yesterday, as fierce winds toppled trees and sent debris flying. there are still yellow weather warnings in wales and southern england for potentially damaging winds, and in parts of yorkshire, lancashire and the peak district for what could be disruptive falls of snow. 0ur correspondent jenny kumah has more.
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one of the worst storms to hit the uk in decades. now the work begins to repair the damage. how much is it? here on dartmoor in devon, the gray family have been without power since yesterday morning. they have a wood burner to keep warm and means of heating food, but they are having to live a simpler life without electricity. i feel for the guys who are out there doing all the work. it's not an easy life forthem, is it? we're ok, we've got hot water. we've got candles and heating. you know, it's a bit different for us, but sometimes it's nice. a yellow weather warning is in place, and the wind and the rain is hampering efforts to repair storm damage and to restore power to people's homes. across the country, more than 200,000 homes remain without power. passengers at london paddington rushing to get one of the few trains to the west country. the transport secretary said teams
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had been working through the night to get transport links back up and running, but he expects disruption to last for another day or two. trains are in the wrong locations. there is still debris being removed from our roads. airports are expected to be very busy, people catching up with flights, and potentially queues at ports. so expect disruption and check before you travel. we're still on a yellow warning today as well, so it's still windy out there, but things are returning to normal. among the swathes of places wrecked by the ferocity of the wind was dartmoor zoo, where several trees fell down, damaging a perimeter fence. if the wallabies had been in this section, they'd have been through there and probably happily cavorting all across south devon. but luckily, they're on the other side because of the bird flu. we had to keep the birds separate. in london, with more than 8 million residents, the scale of the clean—up became clearer.
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sections of the roof of the 02 arena in london were shredded by high winds. after the fury of yesterday in wales, there are still wind warnings which could hamper clear—up work. jenny kumah, bbc news. 0ur reporter simonjones is at paddington station in central london. what is the situation now? it has been another really difficult day on the railways. yesterday, 61% of all services across the railway network were either delayed or cancelled, largely due to a storm. that pattern has continued into today. many rail operators, like the one running trains from here down to the south west, are urging passengers not to travel at all. despite that, paddington is extremely busy, because i think many people were caught out yesterday
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when services were stopped. they got stranded in london and have been desperately trying to get home. they have not been that many trains, so when a train arrives, people desperately rush on to the platform to try to get on board, sometimes they don't succeed and have to come back onto the concourse. and wait for further trains. back onto the concourse. and wait forfurther trains. that back onto the concourse. and wait for further trains. that can back onto the concourse. and wait forfurther trains. that can be quite a long wait. why is it taking so long to sort things out? i think so many trees came down yesterday in the storm that network rail engineers have had to spend their time checking the tract the debris and also the damage. that is taking time. still some warnings in place for wind for the whole of southern england, the south—west and large parts of wales. once again, the advice is don't travel unless you have to box out to be people here keen to make journeys. have to box out to be people here keen to makejourneys. —— don't travel unless you have to. insurance costs of storm eunice are estimated to be between £200 million to £350 million, according to pwc. with me to discuss
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this is mohammed khan, general insurance leader at pwc uk. thanks for being with us. how did you come up with the insurance cost estimate? .., you come up with the insurance cost estimate? .. , estimate? so, when we came up with it yesterday — estimate? so, when we came up with it yesterday evening, _ estimate? so, when we came up with it yesterday evening, we _ estimate? so, when we came up with it yesterday evening, we had - estimate? so, when we came up with it yesterday evening, we had only - it yesterday evening, we had only just literally had the storm. we looked at the current damage during the day, we look at where the impact was and compared to previous storms. note how we came up with our range. and how does that sort of cost compared to previous storms? storm eunice has so — compared to previous storms? storm eunice has so far _ compared to previous storms? storm eunice has so far been _ compared to previous storms? storm eunice has so far been wind - compared to previous storms? siffrwfl eunice has so far been wind damage are not flooding. if you look at the worst storms we had, one in 1953, the one in 1990, the one in 2018 and 2020. generally, they have been a combination of floods and windstorms. and with storm eunice, we have just had the wind storm. those storms were a lot worse, that
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is because the average insurance windstorm claim is typically about £1500. if you have had a tree falling on your house, it will obviously be more than that, typically over £100,000. but typically, windstorm damages less. when you have a flood, that tends to cause average insurance damages between £35,000 and £40,000 and tends to be a lot worse. in between £35,000 and £40,000 and tends to be a lot worse.— tends to be a lot worse. in terms of --eole tends to be a lot worse. in terms of people making _ tends to be a lot worse. in terms of people making claims, _ tends to be a lot worse. in terms of people making claims, typically, i tends to be a lot worse. in terms of. people making claims, typically, how quickly do they get their money? obviously if you have had your house devastated by a falling tree or something, or even your car and you want to get the money back quite quickly, how long is it take? insurance companies are really alive to the fact that they needed to make payments quickly. if it is going to be a very large claim on what they try to do is get interim payments quickly to you. for example, if you have had a tree fall on your house, you can get some insurers in arranging that for you. if you have
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had damage to your property, please inform your insurance company as quickly as possible. i know it is the weekend, they are waiting for your call. mi the weekend, they are waiting for our call. �* , ., ., your call. all right, very to hear from you. mohammed - your call. all right, very to hear from you. mohammed khan - your call. all right, very to hear from you. mohammed khan atl your call. all right, very to hear i from you. mohammed khan at the your call. all right, very to hear - from you. mohammed khan at the from the pwc uk. if you want to get more of the situation where you live, tune into your local bbc radio station when you can find details. let's get the latest sports news for you. gavin with the latest in the winter olympics. we will update you on the football as well, that first great britain finally have a medal at this year's winter olympics, they had to settle for silver after losing the men's hurling final to sweden. it was a tense contest which sweden. it was a tense contest which sweden won 5—4. laura scott was watching. bittersweet sweden won 5—4. laura scott was watching. bitter sweet smiles, knowing only too well what could have been. if sweden had not been on fire on the ice.
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onto that one, onto the other one... oh, and he's done it. but anything britain could do, sweden could do better. he's done well, very well. splitting these familiar rivals was, at points, to close to call. splitting these familiar rivals was, at points, too close to call. time to bring in the curling compass. a shot for great britain. it was close. but whether in the smash—up job... it's like the demolition derby when he comes to play. ..or the cagey game of chess, the swedes just had the edge. bruce... after nearly three hours of tactics and tension... it's got to hit that red. ..the red stone in the house brought the gold medal home for sweden. sweden have won the gold medal. heartbreak for the british team after the narrowest of defeats. not the golden moment they so badly wanted, but once the obvious disappointment subsides, this team will celebrate the silver medal that finally puts team gb on the medal table on the penultimate day of these games. laura scott, bbc news, beijing.
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