hello, this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. ukraine's president says international rules protecting countries from attack are no longer working, amid fears of a russian invasion. and, as reports emerge of shelling in eastern ukraine, the prime minister issues a new warning about the consquences of any russian invasion. counting the cost of storm eunice — three deaths and more than 155,000 homes across the uk still without power as the big clean—up gets underway.

hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are political commentatorjo phillips and nigel nelson, political editor of the people and sunday mirror. tomorrow's front pages... the observer front page says if russian forces occupy ukraine, the west plans to arm resistance. the sunday telegraph also looks at the russia—ukraine crisis saying there's a cyber attack warning for britain. the home secretary says russia could be preparing a cyber assault. meanwhile, the sunday express looks at covid rules, saying a defiant prime minister will axe coronavirus restrictions in england. the sunday mirror says there's an investigation into whatsapp messages made by staff at a firm

paid by the home office. and the sunday times front page — looks into the wealthy donors, said to have joined a secret advisory board. so, let's begin... joe, and nigel, hello again. joe, let's start off with the front page of the independent, quite a few bits and pieces to get through this covering a lot of the latest developments, why don't you starters. , ., , starters. so, the independent always has a striking — starters. so, the independent always has a striking photograph, _ starters. so, the independent always has a striking photograph, a - has a striking photograph, a photograph of the president meeting with the prime minister boris johnson, and the reason that this is, apart from the pact that everything —— everyone is at the conference and unit apart from russia, is for usjust conference and unit apart from russia, is for us just because the ukrainian leader has come out very

strongly saying that actually now is the time that they need sanctions, don't wait until the fighting starts, if indeed it is going to start. he has called on the west to drop its policy of what he calls the appeasement of russia and putin. and he said we have no weapons, no security, but we have the right to demand a shift from a policy of appeasement to one ensuring security mps. so, quite tough and quite brutal words, mps. so, quite tough and quite brutalwords, i mps. so, quite tough and quite brutal words, i think, from president zelensky. i brutalwords, i think, from president zelensky. i don't know what ou president zelensky. i don't know what you made _ president zelensky. i don't know what you made at _ president zelensky. i don't know what you made at that _ president zelensky. i don't know. what you made at that conference president zelensky. i don't know - what you made at that conference and listening to the president, nigel, there was anger, there was frustration, there was resolve as well, wasn't there? the frustration, there was resolve as well, wasn't there?— frustration, there was resolve as well, wasn't there? the whole thing was actually — well, wasn't there? the whole thing was actually very — well, wasn't there? the whole thing was actually very depressing. - well, wasn't there? the whole thing was actually very depressing. i - was actually very depressing. i mean. — was actually very depressing. i mean, we've got president putin who consistently claims he is not going to invade — consistently claims he is not going to invade ukraine, and we've got president — to invade ukraine, and we've got president biden and borisjohnson who insist — president biden and borisjohnson who insist that he is. obviously, we are not_ who insist that he is. obviously, we are not privy— who insist that he is. obviously, we are not privy to the intelligence to know _ are not privy to the intelligence to know exactly which one of them is

right _ know exactly which one of them is right but — know exactly which one of them is right. but the idea of actually arming — right. but the idea of actually arming the ukrainians, obviously that is— arming the ukrainians, obviously that is something that ukraine wants desperately, they won't be a pushover, they have 215,000 troops so it will_ pushover, they have 215,000 troops so it will he — pushover, they have 215,000 troops so it will be a major conflict if russia — so it will be a major conflict if russia does go in, but we have already— russia does go in, but we have already said quite a lot on the way, that the _ already said quite a lot on the way, that the aircraft carrier prince of wales— that the aircraft carrier prince of wales is— that the aircraft carrier prince of wales is heading to the region, we have sent — wales is heading to the region, we have sent three commando brigade to reinforce _ have sent three commando brigade to reinforce iowa 2000 troops in estonia, — reinforce iowa 2000 troops in estonia, so their forces are building _ estonia, so their forces are building up on either side but we have _ building up on either side but we have no— building up on either side but we have no intention of getting involved _ have no intention of getting involved in the fighting, that will be down — involved in the fighting, that will be down to ukraine, which is why they so— be down to ukraine, which is why they so badly need the arms from the west _ they so badly need the arms from the west. ~ �* ., ., , ., ., west. we'll get onto this idea of the west are _ west. we'll get onto this idea of the west are planning _ west. we'll get onto this idea of the west are planning to - west. we'll get onto this idea of the west are planning to arm . the west are planning to arm resistant in a moment. before we move from the independent, jo, what do you think about his words about

the sanctions? why wait till an actual invasion?— the sanctions? why wait till an actual invasion? the sanctions? why wait till an actualinvasion? ., ., , actual invasion? you can sort of see where he is — actual invasion? you can sort of see where he is coming _ actual invasion? you can sort of see where he is coming from _ actual invasion? you can sort of see where he is coming from because i actual invasion? you can sort of see j where he is coming from because to put this into some sort of context, the ukrainians have been under assorted semi siege if you like for eight years, and it is only the last few months that we have seen sort of the build—up of russian troops along the build—up of russian troops along the borders that everybody else has got interested in such a grand now, you know, only a week or so ago, the ukrainians were saying, hang on a minute, you are talking this up, the west, particularly britain and america, you are talking this up, you are panicking everything, you are not helping us, we need to keep are not helping us, we need to keep a stable economy, this is making it worse. now, this seems to be a slight change of tone, he is saying if you want to do something, do it now, don't wait.— now, don't wait. let's turn to the front page _ now, don't wait. let's turn to the front page of _ now, don't wait. let's turn to the front page of the _ now, don't wait. let's turn to the front page of the observer, - now, don't wait. let's turn to the l front page of the observer, nigel, and you were mentioning the west

possibly arming the resistance within the donbas region, the question, i suppose, within the donbas region, the question, isuppose, is how? within the donbas region, the question, i suppose, is how? well, we have already _ question, i suppose, is how? well, we have already sent _ question, i suppose, is how? well, we have already sent them - question, i suppose, is how? well, we have already sent them 2000 anti tank missiles, which have gone to ukraine — tank missiles, which have gone to ukraine. our special forces have been _ ukraine. our special forces have been training ukrainian troops, so we have _ been training ukrainian troops, so we have been giving some assistance. obviously. _ we have been giving some assistance. obviously. it— we have been giving some assistance. obviously, it wouldn't be enough if there _ obviously, it wouldn't be enough if there was— obviously, it wouldn't be enough if there was a — obviously, it wouldn't be enough if there was a protracted war, and so i think— there was a protracted war, and so i think we _ there was a protracted war, and so i think we really do have to hope that these _ think we really do have to hope that these sort _ think we really do have to hope that these sort of 11th hour diplomatic initiatives — these sort of 11th hour diplomatic initiatives actually work. it did strike — initiatives actually work. it did strike me. _ initiatives actually work. it did strike me, from the munich summit, that there _ strike me, from the munich summit, that there was a slight, of hope in the sense — that there was a slight, of hope in the sense that borisjohnson was talking _ the sense that borisjohnson was talking about trying to sit down with president putin and reassure him that— with president putin and reassure him that nato is a defensive alliance, _ him that nato is a defensive alliance, not an aggressive one. so, that sounded like a bit of olive branch. — that sounded like a bit of olive branch, on the basis that it is really— branch, on the basis that it is really important that both sides

understand where they are coming from _ understand where they are coming from you — understand where they are coming from. you can see from the point of view— from. you can see from the point of view of— from. you can see from the point of view of russia that they are surrounded by nato countries now, which _ surrounded by nato countries now, which they— surrounded by nato countries now, which they were not prior to 1999, and it— which they were not prior to 1999, and it is— which they were not prior to 1999, and it is a — which they were not prior to 1999, and it is a matter of if we can come to some _ and it is a matter of if we can come to some sort — and it is a matter of if we can come to some sort of negotiation, it will be to some sort of negotiation, it will he so _ to some sort of negotiation, it will he so much — to some sort of negotiation, it will be so much better than going to war. on the _ be so much better than going to war. on the subject of nato, jo, that 0n the subject of nato, jo, that also came up, nato membership for ukraine, when the president was speaking. ukraine, when the president was s-ueakin. , ., ukraine, when the president was s-ueakin. , . ., ukraine, when the president was s-ueakin. , ., . ., ukraine, when the president was s-ueakin. , . ., ., , . speaking. they have made no secret ofthe speaking. they have made no secret of the fact that — speaking. they have made no secret of the fact that they _ speaking. they have made no secret of the fact that they do _ speaking. they have made no secret of the fact that they do eventually i of the fact that they do eventually want to become a member of nato. you know, whether or not they will happen, only time will tell. i think there are bigger questions about this because to a large extent, vladimir putin doesn't need to lift a finger. he has created chaos, he has every leader in the world going to his door, he has been central attention, and there has been massive disruption on the stock exchanges around the world. and he

can leave his troops would bear without firing a bullet or doing anything else and create and disrupt, which is of course what he really is known for and what he likes to do. and he can do that for as long as he wants to, if you like. so, it is a question, i think, in some ways, as who blinks first. fits some ways, as who blinks first. as we turn to the sunday telegraph, nigel, we know what he's doing, we have told him, rather the allies, the us, the uk have told him, we know what you are doing, and yet we are still having to perform this diplomatic dance.— are still having to perform this dilomatic dance. , , , diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done _ diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done it _ diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done it yet. _ diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done it yet. and _ diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done it yet. and he - diplomatic dance. basically, because he hasn't done it yet. and he keeps. he hasn't done it yet. and he keeps insisting _ he hasn't done it yet. and he keeps insisting that he is going to. but, i insisting that he is going to. but, i mean. — insisting that he is going to. but, i mean, borisjohnson made quite clear— i mean, borisjohnson made quite clear today— i mean, borisjohnson made quite clear today in munich that we really are in— clear today in munich that we really are in the _ clear today in munich that we really are in the last throes of this and it does— are in the last throes of this and it does seem to me that we are in a kind of— it does seem to me that we are in a kind of international game of

chicken — kind of international game of chicken and at the moment neither side wants— chicken and at the moment neither side wants to swerve at the last minute — side wants to swerve at the last minute. that would be a recipe for disaster— minute. that would be a recipe for disaster so— minute. that would be a recipe for disaster so one hopes that still at this last _ disaster so one hopes that still at this last stage, we will be able to tet this last stage, we will be able to get some — this last stage, we will be able to get some kind of breakthrough. it does _ get some kind of breakthrough. it does seem to me that either way, we are going _ does seem to me that either way, we are going to— does seem to me that either way, we are going to know the outcome of that this — are going to know the outcome of that this coming week. the sunday tele . ra - h, that this coming week. the sunday telegraph, britain _ that this coming week. the sunday telegraph, britain has— that this coming week. the sunday telegraph, britain has been - that this coming week. the sunday| telegraph, britain has been warned that cyber attacks as russia flexes military might. ukraine was the subject of an asset stash massive cyber attack recently, weren't they? yes, and all our security service have _ yes, and all our security service have been— yes, and all our security service have been put on alert for that very thing _ have been put on alert for that very thing it— have been put on alert for that very thing if we — have been put on alert for that very thing. if we start getting into a cyber— thing. if we start getting into a cyber war. _ thing. if we start getting into a cyber war, to really will get very nasty— cyber war, to really will get very nasty because obviously the russians have the _ nasty because obviously the russians have the capability of attacking our utility _ have the capability of attacking our utility companies, hospitals, businesses, banks, there is an awful lot of— businesses, banks, there is an awful lot of damage they can do. but, equally, — lot of damage they can do. but, equally, there is quite a bit of damage — equally, there is quite a bit of damage that we can do to them, so our cyber— damage that we can do to them, so our cyber warriors have also been

put our cyber warriors have also been out on _ our cyber warriors have also been out on alert— our cyber warriors have also been put on alert to actually fight back. but it _ put on alert to actually fight back. but it would become an extremely strange _ but it would become an extremely strange war but it could also be a devastating one.— strange war but it could also be a devastating one. there looks as if it will be forged _ devastating one. there looks as if it will be forged as _ devastating one. there looks as if it will be forged as a _ devastating one. there looks as if it will be forged as a hybrid - devastating one. there looks as if it will be forged as a hybrid wall, l it will be forged as a hybrid wall, jo, not really by the third soldiers. i jo, not really by the third soldiers— jo, not really by the third soldiers. ~ , ., ., ., , , soldiers. i think you are absolutely ritht and soldiers. i think you are absolutely right and that _ soldiers. i think you are absolutely right and that is _ soldiers. i think you are absolutely right and that is what _ soldiers. i think you are absolutely right and that is what makes - soldiers. i think you are absolutely right and that is what makes it - right and that is what makes it completely different and it has been what a lot of defence and military experts have been saying for a long time, it is not about tanks and guns, it is actually about cybersecurity. this is the stuff that really does disrupt. it can close down banks, it can bring infrastructure to a grinding halt. you know, all around the world, and it is almost impossible to contain or to control because the people who are doing it are all automatically, ljy are doing it are all automatically, by the time they have done it, they are one step ahead of you. so it is are one step ahead of you. so it is a different sort of warfare, it is a different battle. i think we have

known for some years now that the way the russians play is not necessarily out of the same playbook that the rest of the world would use. but i think also what is happening is that this has become such a focal point for the whole world at the moment because the impact would be absolutely worldwide. but what is china doing? china is very, very quiet at the moment but they will be watching very, very closely to see what happens and you see, as nigel says, in this game of chicken, does either the west of russia swerve first or do we go into something that isn't a full—scale ground war or a war, if you like, but is something that is conducted in cyberspace.- conducted in cyberspace. sunday ex - ress, conducted in cyberspace. sunday express, bidding _ conducted in cyberspace. sunday express, bidding time _ conducted in cyberspace. sunday express, bidding time for - conducted in cyberspace. sunday express, bidding time for the - conducted in cyberspace. sunday i express, bidding time for the prime minister. b. express, bidding time for the prime minister. �* , , ~ , minister. a busy time. when he gets back from munich, _ minister. a busy time. when he gets back from munich, he _ minister. a busy time. when he gets back from munich, he will _ minister. a busy time. when he gets back from munich, he will meet - minister. a busy time. when he gets back from munich, he will meet his l back from munich, he will meet his cabinet _ back from munich, he will meet his cabinet on — back from munich, he will meet his cabinet on monday to finalise last arrangements for getting rid of all covid _ arrangements for getting rid of all covid restrictions. and that,

according _ covid restrictions. and that, according to the sunday express, is what will— according to the sunday express, is what will happen on monday, that means— what will happen on monday, that means that from thursday, they will be means that from thursday, they will he no _ means that from thursday, they will he no need — means that from thursday, they will be no need to self—isolate even if you test — be no need to self—isolate even if you test positive with covid. it all feels _ you test positive with covid. it all feels to _ you test positive with covid. it all feels to me a bit premature. i have 'ust feels to me a bit premature. i have just recovered from bout of covid even _ just recovered from bout of covid even though i am triple jab, and i'm not sure— even though i am triple jab, and i'm not sure i_ even though i am triple jab, and i'm not sure i would be keen on wandering around the place rather than staying home. you would end up infecting _ than staying home. you would end up infecting other people. so, a lot of the sciences are actually fighting back on— the sciences are actually fighting back on this one, and they are saying — back on this one, and they are saying that it is too early to relax that rule — saying that it is too early to relax that rule around self isolation. and, _ that rule around self isolation. and. also, _ that rule around self isolation. and, also, they are worried about the ending — and, also, they are worried about the ending of three tests. we might also hear— the ending of three tests. we might also hear on monday i eight when that will— also hear on monday i eight when that will happen. and of course that is our— that will happen. and of course that is our only— that will happen. and of course that is our only kind of weapon for dealing — is our only kind of weapon for dealing with new variants. let�*s

dealing with new variants. let's turn back to _ dealing with new variants. let's turn back to the _ dealing with new variants. let's turn back to the sunday - dealing with new variants. let�*s turn back to the sunday telegraph, jo, and also as part of this agreement or possibly what we will hear about some point is nhs trust are to be paid for clearing the pandemic backdrop.— are to be paid for clearing the pandemic backdrop. are to be paid for clearing the andemic backdro -. , ., , pandemic backdrop. yes, i mean, this has been sitting _ pandemic backdrop. yes, i mean, this has been sitting in _ pandemic backdrop. yes, i mean, this has been sitting in the _ pandemic backdrop. yes, i mean, this has been sitting in the government. has been sitting in the government does my entry for a while, and it is not going to go down any time soon before the next election. and it is this massive, massive backlog of patients waiting for operations, you know, some people have been waiting for several years now, they have had operations postponed, postponed, postponed, obviously because of covid and the pressure on the nhs, so the telegraph is reporting that trusts will basically be paid by results. but of course, doesn't come... it comes back, always, two it is not about the equipment, it is not about the hospitals, it is about the staff, and we know there is a massive shortage of staff within the health service, from doctors to pathologists, to radiographers, to

nurses, right across—the—board, and if you haven't got anybody who can operate, you could have a hospital with the most high—tech equipment and you can have it operating 2a hours a day, sweating the assets, as they call it, which makes a lot of sense on paper, but if you haven't got the train staff to operate it, you are not going to be able to do it. and if you start paying five results, the hospitals and the trust who are well staffed will do better than the ones that are struggling. —— paint by results. than the ones that are struggling. -- paint by results.— than the ones that are struggling. -- paint by results. thank you, we are back at — -- paint by results. thank you, we are back at 1130. _ -- paint by results. thank you, we are back at 1130. but _ -- paint by results. thank you, we are back at 1130. but for _ -- paint by results. thank you, we are back at 1130. but for now, - are back at 1130. but for now, cheerio. i actually had guys coming up to me and asking me, how much is it for a night?

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