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tv   Breakfast  BBC News  February 26, 2022 6:00am-10:00am GMT

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good morning. welcome to breakfast, with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. our headlines today: explosions. the battle for kyiv. reports of explosions and gunshots in the ukrainian capital, hours after the country's president warns russian forces are preparing to storm the city. we are all here. our soldiers are here. the citizens are here, and we are here will stop we depend our independence. that is how it will go. as ukrainians arm themselves, the uk government warns people to brace themselves for sickening scenes over the coming days. at the united nations,
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a resolution calling for moscow to stop the attack is blocked by the russians. tens of thousands of fleeing ukrainians cross into neighbouring countries, sparking a call for extra humanitarian support. sport makes a stand as russia is stripped of the champions league final and the grand prix in sochi is axed. we look at how the crisis is affecting other areas of sport. good morning. it's saturday, the 26th of february. our main story. there have been frequent blasts and explosions in kyiv overnight, hours after president volodymyr zelensky warned that russian forces were preparing to storm the capital. heavy gunfire can be heard in the centre of the city, and the ukrainian army said it had repelled an attack along one of the main avenues from the west. the ukrainians also said they had shot down a large russian plane carrying troops, as a battle takes place for control of an airport
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to the south of kyiv. jonah fisher has the latest details. a european capital of 3 million people is under attack. the night has brought reports of strikes on a power station and explosions in western parts of kyiv. russia also appears to be trying to bring in reinforcements from the air. ukraine says it has shot down a military transport plane to the south of kyiv, with perhaps as many as 150 troops on board. as the night began, ukraine's resident posted this outside his offices, proof that he was still with his people in kyiv. president zelensky warned that an assault was planned, predicting a difficult night. this is the man who gave the order. russia's president urged ukrainians to rise up and overthrow their leaders.
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translation: i overthrow their leaders. translation:— overthrow their leaders. translation: ., ., translation: i appeal to the servicemen — translation: i appeal to the servicemen of _ translation: i appeal to the servicemen of the _ translation: i appeal to the servicemen of the armed - translation: | appeal to the | servicemen of the armed forces translation: | appeal to the - servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine. do not let neo—nazis and ukrainian ultranationalist �*s use ukrainian ultra nationalist �*s use your children, ukrainian ultranationalist �*s use your children, wives and the elderly as human shields. take power into your own hands.— your own hands. ukraine is under attack from _ your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the _ your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, _ your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, south - your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, south and| attack from the north, south and east. the russians are not as advancing as fast as they had perhaps hoped. there is a certain inevitability about their progress. in the central ukrainian city of dnipro, people are in the central ukrainian city of ddipfo, people are starting in the central ukrainian city of dnipro, people are starting to consider what had until recently been unthinkable. translation: i don't want to lose my country, i love it so much, you can't imagine that. it love it so much, you can't imagine that. , , ~ ., that. it is quite shocking for me and riaht that. it is quite shocking for me and right now — that. it is quite shocking for me and right now i _ that. it is quite shocking for me and right now i am _ that. it is quite shocking for me and right now i am thinking - that. it is quite shocking for me l and right now i am thinking about taking a _ and right now i am thinking about taking a weapon into my hands, at least, _ taking a weapon into my hands, at least, to— taking a weapon into my hands, at least, to defend my local district. so far_ least, to defend my local district. so far ukraine is resisting. the sad truth is that the tougher they make it for the russian forces, the more
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brutal the instructions from president putin are likely to be. let's speak now to our kyiv correspondent james waterhouse. james, we know you were ordered to stay inside for most of the night. what can you tell us about the situation there this morning? it was another anxious night for most people in this city, to be honest with you. many chose to spend it all were ordered to spend it on the ground, in metro stations, underground car parks, where we were, and throughout the night you could hear the frequent rumbling of artillery fire. this morning there has recently been another air raid siren, but it is eerie calm. there have been 50 reports of explosions and heavy gunfire, ukrainian forces say russian troops were trying to take on electricity generating station, which is part and parcel of
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an assault, it would suggest, to take out the country's infrastructure. there has been heavy fighting to the west. western officials say ukraine seems to be holding firm in key cities across the country, so, they are deliberately conceding in rural areas, as the russian troops move in, but they are sort of holding firm for now. russian forces say they have lodged in an abs assault, a seed to shore landing to the south, nearthe a seed to shore landing to the south, near the city of mariupol to the south—east, where there is also heavy fighting, but as i say, ukrainian forces are holding firm. the worry years, from the west, that if russia does not get a quick victory it wants, which many did predict, we were often told about a lightning strike, won't we, that the worry is russian troops will take to more drastic measures to achieve their goal, and what one official said in his briefing, for president putin, this is no longer a war of choice but one of necessity. sodium
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predict ability and tension and now violence, very much continues. president zelensky yesterday wanting residence in kyiv that last night would be the night the city came under attack and was indeed taken, but it seems as you say that russian forces are facing much more are than they might have first thought? yes. they might have first thought? yes, last niaht, they might have first thought? yes, last night. if— they might have first thought? yes, last night. if you — they might have first thought? yes, last night, if you just _ they might have first thought? ye: last night, if you just walked around the corner, there were queues of hundreds of people, mostly men, queueing outside the ministerial building for the country's territorial defence. they walked in, they showed a bit of identification, they showed a bit of identification, they had a yellow ribbon tied around their arm, they had a yellow ribbon tied around theirarm, and they had a yellow ribbon tied around their arm, and then they were issued with a weapon, and away they went. off to face an enemy not yet off to face an enemy not yet envisioned. colleagues further outside the city have come across many more volunteers with automatic
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weapons, 18,000 were given out yesterday, and the further out you 90, yesterday, and the further out you go, where there has been heavy fighting to the north is welcome you have ukraine's own soldiers, mounting a defence. we saw many prone, pointing down the road, expecting the enemy to come that way. so this is very much a city and a country mounting a defence, president zelensky gave a defiant message yesterday, it was defected by some —— predicted by some that he would leave, but he gave a message outside the presidential quarters, telling everybody that he was still here. there are reports of the us media as well but he has turned down an offer of relation, or help with an offer of relation, or help with an evacuation, by washington. he is quoted as saying, i need ammunition, not a right. so that will be rousing words from the president, who has been trying to galvanise everybody. yes, and just in the last few minutes, word coming from the ukrainian president suggesting local
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people will not put down weapons, and i wonder, given what we are seeing of local people taking up arms and also, as you have touched on, that threat of greater bombardment from russian forces, what are people there telling you? at the moment, people are not thinking beyond the next 15 minutes, possibly an hour, because yes, ukrainians have been used to this, this constant tension, but when you speak to people and you look at expressions on faces, there is still that disbelief, there much bigger neighbour, they much more powerful neighbour, they much more powerful neighbour, with all the cultural ties and history, has chosen to turn on ukraine, turn on a country in such a full—scale, hybrid fashion. it is clear that there are attacks coming from all sides, from c, from the air, we have reports of paratroopers coming down, there has
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been intense fighting at the airport 30 kilometres from here, the chernobyl nuclear power plant has been taken. further north, there have been images of residents confronting russian soldiers that suddenly arrive on the doorstep, calling them occupiers, wondering why they are here. this is still a population and relative disbelief, but there are people who are taking up but there are people who are taking up arms, they have said it for months, they have said, i will fight. many have said, i will fight if the time comes. they sometimes admit they don't quite know what that means. that could just mean staying put, in defiance, drawing the curtains, staying away from the window, refusing to be bullied, and for others, as we have seen, people taking up arms and heading into the night to try to defend their home city and their homeland. it is incredibly moving to see. james, for now, incredibly moving to see. james, for new. thank — incredibly moving to see. james, for now. thank yon _ incredibly moving to see. james, for now, thank you. we _ incredibly moving to see. james, for now, thank you. we will _ incredibly moving to see. james, for now, thank you. we will be - incredibly moving to see. james, for now, thank you. we will be back - incredibly moving to see. james, for| now, thank you. we will be back with you a little later. that was james
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waterhouse, our kyiv correspondence. western nations have taken the rare step of ordering personal sanctions on vladimir putin and his foreign minister sergey lavrov. their assets in the us, eu, uk and canada will be frozen, and in the case of the us, a travel ban imposed. david willis joins us now from washington. david, tough sanctions by the western powers but will they have any practical effect? does president putin have assets in his name in the us, the eu and the uk? ., , ., his name in the us, the eu and the uk? . , ., , , ., uk? that is a very good question. not many peeple _ uk? that is a very good question. not many people know _ uk? that is a very good question. not many people know the - uk? that is a very good question. | not many people know the answer uk? that is a very good question. i not many people know the answer to that. so it is possible that this measure could be more symbolic than actually hitting president putin in his pocketbook, but to implement such sanctions against an acting head of state is of course highly unusual, and it means the name of vladimir putin will be added to that of those such as bashar al—assad, for example, and people like kim
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jong—un of north korea. we don't know if president putin has assets here, but included in these measures is a travel ban, so he will not be able to travel to the united states. that is that the difference between the measures implemented between president putin here and those that were announced earlier by the eu and the uk. all part of this attempt, basically, to target those at the head of the russian operation, those in the kremlin, and to avoid, if possible, spreading the pain to ordinary russians. i possible, spreading the pain to ordinary russians.— possible, spreading the pain to ordinary russians. i mean, was president _ ordinary russians. i mean, was president putin _ ordinary russians. i mean, was president putin ever _ ordinary russians. i mean, was president putin ever going - ordinary russians. i mean, was president putin ever going to i ordinary russians. i mean, was| president putin ever going to be travelling to the us in the short—term, in the medium—term, in the long—term? short-term, in the medium-term, in the long-term?— the long-term? well, no plans but i was aware of. _ the long-term? well, no plans but i was aware of, certainly. _ the long-term? well, no plans but i was aware of, certainly. i— the long-term? well, no plans but i was aware of, certainly. i wouldn't l was aware of, certainly. i wouldn't have thought he would have come in for a very cordial reception, had he chosen to come here. but it is
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symbolic, largely. it is highly unusual, and of course the united states announced over the last few days these punitive sanctions involving leading banks in russia, also a ban on the export of certain technology that seems crucial for russia's upbringing of its economy. all, as i say, to put the pressure on the russian government, and of course vladimir putin, particularly, himself. , ., ., , , ., himself. tell us what happened at the un security _ himself. tell us what happened at the un security council— himself. tell us what happened at the un security council meeting? | the un security council meeting? well, today there was that meeting with a resolution condemning russia for its actions, as far as ukraine is concerned. russia, no surprise, vetoing that declaration, but they were abstentions from india, from the united arab emirates, and significantly, perhaps, from china.
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those in the west are claiming that is a victory in a sense, because they had indicated they might go with russia and veto that declaration, so this is seen by the west is a growing sign of russia's diplomatic isolation in the face of his actions in ukraine.— diplomatic isolation in the face of his actions in ukraine. thank you, david. the prime minister has issued his own appeal to the russian people in a video filmed by downing street and posted on social media last night. switching between english, russian and ukrainian, borisjohnson praised the russian people and said he did not believe this war "was in their name." he also warned that the president's actions are costing countless lives on both sides. putin's actions are leading to complete isolation for russia, shunned by the rest of the international community. hit by immense economic sanctions and facing a needless and bloodied war.
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that is already costing countless lives, from innocent ukrainians to your russian soldiers who will never see their families again. and to your russian soldiers who will never see theirfamilies again. and to my russian friends, speaks russian. this crisis, this tragedy, can and must come to an end. as we know, nato is not sending troops into ukraine, to avoid escalating the conflict. however, it is sending reinforcements to its member nations in eastern europe. at an emergency summit, leaders of the western military alliance warned that moscow would pay a severe political and economic price for its actions. 0ur diplomatic correspondent james landale reports on the global response to the crisis. this is what the defence of kyiv
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looks like. soldiers with guns and armoured vehicles, ready to take on the might of russian tanks and warplanes. but these american fighter jets won't be coming to their aid. they arrived in romania as part of nato poz my decision to beef up its presence in member states close to russia. so to these british forces arriving in the baltic state of estonia. they are there to deter potential russian aggression against nato countries. at the headquarters of the military alliance in brussels, all 30 nato leaders went further, agreeing for the first time in the organisation's history to activate the rapid response force for collective defence, which means potentially thousands more troops headed to eastern europe. we potentially thousands more troops headed to eastern europe.- headed to eastern europe. we are delo in: headed to eastern europe. we are deploying the _ headed to eastern europe. we are deploying the nato _ headed to eastern europe. we are deploying the nato response - headed to eastern europe. we arei deploying the nato response force headed to eastern europe. we are i deploying the nato response force on land and sea and in the air. to
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further strengthen our posture and to respond quickly to and the contingency. there must be for miscalculation or misunderstanding. we will do what it takes to protect and defend every ally. what we will do what it takes to protect and defend every ally.— and defend every ally. what the wests could _ and defend every ally. what the wests could do _ and defend every ally. what the wests could do is _ and defend every ally. what the wests could do is give - and defend every ally. what the wests could do is give ukraine i and defend every ally. what the - wests could do is give ukraine more help like this, these are and try to weapons provided by britain, downing street said more support was planned and nothing was off the table. there is clearly a strong appetite here at westminster and other european capitals to give ukraine more military kit to support an insurgency against russian forces. but ministers are absolutely clear there will be no uk troops on the ground, nora no—fly there will be no uk troops on the ground, nor a no—fly zone involved by nato warplanes. ground, nor a no-fly zone involved by nato warplanes.— ground, nor a no-fly zone involved by nato warplanes. british and nato troo -s by nato warplanes. british and nato troops should _ by nato warplanes. british and nato troops should not, _ by nato warplanes. british and nato troops should not, must _ by nato warplanes. british and nato troops should not, must not - by nato warplanes. british and nato troops should not, must not play an active role in ukraine. we must all be clear what the risks of
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miscalculation could be and how that could very quickly become. bud miscalculation could be and how that could very quickly become.— could very quickly become. and here is wh . could very quickly become. and here is why- ukraine _ could very quickly become. and here is why. ukraine might _ could very quickly become. and here is why. ukraine might have - could very quickly become. and here is why. ukraine might have held - could very quickly become. and here is why. ukraine might have held a i is why. ukraine might have held a parade for nato forces last summer, but it is not yet a member. it wants tojoin, but that but it is not yet a member. it wants to join, but that will not happen while there is a risk of importing conflict into the alliance, and that could take years to resolve. but look at how far and wide nato reaches, and the fear is that if nato forces join the fight in ukraine, and war could spread across the whole continent. than ukraine, and war could spread across the whole continent.— the whole continent. an attack on one member _ the whole continent. an attack on one member of _ the whole continent. an attack on one member of nato _ the whole continent. an attack on one member of nato is _ the whole continent. an attack on one member of nato is an - the whole continent. an attack on one member of nato is an attack| the whole continent. an attack on l one member of nato is an attack on all members of nato. the present is clear we will defend every inch of nato territory. i think that is the most powerful deterrent against president putin going beyond ukraine. �* ., , president putin going beyond ukraine. . , ., ukraine. but that may be of little solace to the _ ukraine. but that may be of little solace to the many _ ukraine. but that may be of little solace to the many thousands - ukraine. but that may be of little solace to the many thousands of| solace to the many thousands of people trying to flee kyiv station. guards fired warning shots to keep back the crowds. crowd choosing to head west rather than rely on the
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west. james landau, bbc news. —— landale. let's take a look at some of today's papers, and most of the front pages carry images of ukrainian troops taking up positions on a bridge to defend their capital. "kyiv, the city of courage," is the daily mail headline. it also highlights a photo of what it reports is a ukrainian citizen "defiantly blocking" a row of russian armoured vehicles. you can just see that individual circle there on the front page. the bridge defences also appear on the front of the daily mirror, with the words, "we are not afraid." the paper reports that 18,000 machine guns have been handed out to civilians who are now volunteering to fight. the guardian says that russian forces have "tightened their grip" on the ukrainian capital, and have also carried out attacks on the black sea coast. and the south wales evening post has a different take on the crisis, reporting that wales is "ready for refugees" as thousands flee the conflict.
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we are actually going to talk to the armed forces minister later and asked him how many ukrainians the uk might be welcoming. but seeing the images and reports from ukraine is really upsetting forany of us, but we are not living it. it's likely to be even worse for the thousands of ukrainians who live here in the uk. simonjones has been hearing from some of those watching from afar, desperately worried about family members and the fate of their homeland. the anxiety on their faces is clear. members of this ukrainian club in luton are desperately trying to get in touch with family and friends back home. when contact is made, the message coming out of the country is grim. it message coming out of the country is rim. , , message coming out of the country is i rim, , , ., y�* , grim. it isjust really's heartbreaking, - grim. it isjust really's heartbreaking, and i grim. it isjust really's| heartbreaking, and we grim. it isjust really's - heartbreaking, and we are grim. it isjust really's _ heartbreaking, and we are fighting for europe. it feels like we are
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fighting for the whole world. we don't have enough people. for this woman it brings _ don't have enough people. for this woman it brings back _ don't have enough people. for this woman it brings back painful- woman it brings back painful memories of when she and her family fled eastern ukraine in 2014 is fighting started in the donbas region. fighting started in the donbas reuion. ~ ., , fighting started in the donbas reuion. ~ .,, ., region. we were under the table at eiuht region. we were under the table at eight years — region. we were under the table at eight years old _ region. we were under the table at eight years old and _ region. we were under the table at eight years old and now _ region. we were under the table at eight years old and now i _ region. we were under the table at eight years old and now i am - region. we were under the table at eight years old and now i am 15 - region. we were under the table at| eight years old and now i am 15 and iam eight years old and now i am 15 and i am already disappointed all this is happening in the world. i don't want it to face it a second time. in nottingham, this man makes contact with his brother who is in ukraine with his brother who is in ukraine with their 86—year—old mother. they can't believe what is happening. mr; can't believe what is happening. m wife make can't believe what is happening. mg wife make me up in the early morning and was crying and said," russia attract ukraine." i was shocked. straightaway, i go to the kitchen, we put the news on an... we see just a crazy situation. the
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we put the news on an... we see “ust a crazy situation.�* a crazy situation. the ukrainian social club _ a crazy situation. the ukrainian social club in _ a crazy situation. the ukrainian social club in manchester, - a crazy situation. the ukrainian i social club in manchester, people are trying to is a strong stopper there is a feeling of helplessness. i feel like i am there is a feeling of helplessness. ifeel like i am useless because i am here, i am ifeel like i am useless because i am here, iam quite ifeel like i am useless because i am here, i am quite safe, ifeel like i am useless because i am here, iam quite safe, so ifeel like i am useless because i am here, i am quite safe, so my son here, yeah, my husband here, but my mother is there, and she said, i am not going anywhere, i am staying here, and she can't go anywhere, she is disabled. ln here, and she can't go anywhere, she is disabled. ,., ., here, and she can't go anywhere, she is disabled. ~ ., ., is disabled. in liverpool, ukrainian catholic priest _ is disabled. in liverpool, ukrainian catholic priest is _ is disabled. in liverpool, ukrainian catholic priest is a _ is disabled. in liverpool, ukrainian catholic priest is a special- is disabled. in liverpool, ukrainian catholic priest is a special prayers| catholic priest is a special prayers for those suffering, with this message. for those suffering, with this message-— for those suffering, with this messare. , ., ., ., ., . message. first of all, not to panic. it is message. first of all, not to panic. it is important _ message. first of all, not to panic. it is important to _ message. first of all, not to panic. it is important to keep _ message. first of all, not to panic. it is important to keep calm. - message. first of all, not to panic. it is important to keep calm. as i it is important to keep calm. as much as it is possible. hi. hello. vladimir has been trying to get his wife 0ksana back to manchester. she had flown out to ukraine to visit her parents and son just before conflict broke out. the flight back was cancelled. she was forced to drive to the polish border. just got
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throu . h drive to the polish border. just got through the _ drive to the polish border. just got through the border, _ drive to the polish border. just got through the border, through i drive to the polish border. just got through the border, through the i through the border, through the night and checking in, where are you? are you through yet? which way are you aiming for? get a flight. where from? which airport? 0ur cameras oui’ cameras were 0ur cameras were there when the couple were finally reunited. l leell couple were finally reunited. i feel at home in — couple were finally reunited. i feel at home in ukraine _ couple were finally reunited. i feel at home in ukraine because i couple were finally reunited. l f--l at home in ukraine because that is my home, and ifeel at home here. so i am glad to be here as well. protest south of the russian embassy in london against the invasion. please help us, please. i do not know what to say. i do not know what they can do. just stop them stop also there, some of london's russian community. this war... sorry. we did
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it, from our man. russians... against war. we don't want it. some ukrainians have _ against war. we don't want it. some ukrainians have decided _ against war. we don't want it. some ukrainians have decided to _ against war. we don't want it. some ukrainians have decided to leave the uk and head back to help in the fight against russian forces. mg brother has decided to go back to ukraine and subscribe to the active army, which is really worrying for all of us. he has got a little daughter and it is really upsetting. thousands of ukrainians live in the uk. their home may now be here, but their thoughts are very much with what is happening in their homeland. simonjones, bbc news. just to bring you a quick line from here, an update is coming through, we are told russian troops are now taking over the kyiv hydroelectric power plant to the north of the capital. that is coming from one,
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there is lots of information coming out about this crisis, but the latest route as we have russian troops taking over the kyiv hydroelectric power plant. we know some of that infrastructure is so crucial in that battle, many of the russian forces tried to take up that crucial valuable infrastructure to help progress their cause, but we just were told russian troops taking over the hydroelectric power plant to the north of the capital city. ukraine gain independence more than 30 years ago, but it has struggled to break free from russian interference. ros atkins looks at the recent history of ukraine's relationship. ukraine's independence came in 1991. the soviet union had collapsed, and as it splintered, a number of new nations emerged. ukraine was one of the largest. it's population was 52 million. it was 1200 kilometres from east to west, and without land came a huge farming sector with over $20 billion now or close to £15 billion.
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as democracy moved east, it was a moment of optimism. in 1991 ukrainians celebrate their first election. us called it momentous. when my —— one voters that it was a flowering of our soul. democracy couldn't change the geography or its history. to the east was russia. to the west with poland, slovakia and hungary, all three had communist pasts. by 2004, all three had joined the european union. being pro— russian or pro— europe became a fundamental dividing line in ukrainian politics, and months later, we saw how. �*s misallocation of electoral fraud, later, we saw how. �*s misallocation of electoralfraud, became known later, we saw how. �*s misallocation of electoral fraud, became known as the orange revolution began and two men wore the focus. 0ne the orange revolution began and two men wore the focus. one man who was pro— russia and had initially been declared the winner, and the man on the right who was pro— europe and would become president after a new vote, and while the outcome of that election was settled, relations with russia were not. in 2010, there was
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a further twist. he was re—elected and in 2013 he would take a decision with huge ramifications. chris morris reported at the time. $5 with huge ramifications. chris morris reported at the time. as eu leaders arrived _ morris reported at the time. as eu leaders arrived for _ morris reported at the time. as eu leaders arrived for the _ morris reported at the time. as eu leaders arrived for the eastern i leaders arrived for the eastern partnership so much, something was missing. the centrepiece was supposed to have been the signing of an association agreement with ukraine. �* �* ., ,, ukraine. but it didn't happen. under ressure ukraine. but it didn't happen. under pressure from _ ukraine. but it didn't happen. under pressure from russia, _ ukraine. but it didn't happen. under pressure from russia, he _ ukraine. but it didn't happen. under pressure from russia, he walked i ukraine. but it didn't happen. under. pressure from russia, he walked away from the deal with the eu and another revolution would begin. there were weeks of protests and crackdowns, and in the end, he would flee his country estate just outside of kyiv and had four russia. watching from moscow was vladimir putin. this was his cue to act. first, shy next crimea from ukraine. it is a peninsula on the back seat. weeks later, pro— russia rebels these two regions in eastern ukraine for already divided ukrainian politics, now putin was dividing the country itself. but the turn towards the west that frustrated him then
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remains now. one recent poll shows 68% of ukrainians in favour of joining the eu. putin, though, sees russians and ukrainians as one people, a single hole. it is ukraine �*s ancient russian soil. that perception i explained this invasion, but perhaps there is something else as well, because the 90s brought a set of democratic optimism to ukraine's current president, this invasion is showing us what putin thinks of that. translation: putin started a war against ukraine, against the whole democratic world. he wants to destroy my country. he wants to destroy my country. he wants to destroy our country, everything we have built. . ' ., destroy our country, everything we have built. ., , ., ., , ., have built. that effort to build a nation began — have built. that effort to build a nation began as _ have built. that effort to build a nation began as ukraine i have built. that effort to build a i nation began as ukraine emerged from the soviet union and the end of the cold war. today, as russia invades, ukrainians are seeing the offender putin public resentment of what happened then and what has happened since. it is just approaching 6:30am. it isjust approaching 6:30am. we will have a full round—up of things
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developing overnight, but we will pause quickly and take a look at the weather. susan has all the details. good morning. good morning. victoria good morning. victoria and good morning. victoria and those good morning. victoria and those of good morning. victoria and those of victoria and ti you good morning. victoria and those of you watching at home. we have had so many storms in the last week or so. this weekend it is quite a contrast. the weather will actually be required, and for the majority, dry with some sunshine. this area is an area of high pressure, some fronts that will try and push their way into the uk, through the course of the weekend, but progress will be very much slowed by this big area of high pressure, and other higher last night with the light winds and clear skies, it did turn quite cold and some spots temperate are down at minus three degrees. a frosty start by clear skies and sunshine for much of england and wales today. northern ireland and scotland will the cloud courtesy of this fun trying to get in, a little bit of drizzly rain and
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some slightly stronger, gusty winds of western scotland. 0vernight, the hide is a good job of hanging on across england and wales. skies will stay clear and looking at a frosty particular down the spine of the uk. more cloud across northern ireland and scotland and that was a temperature sitting at around six or seven degrees into the small hours. for sunday again, surprisingly in contrast to the last weekend, a lot of sunshine across the uk, generally quite light winds as well. every weak weather front here sitting across scotland, thicker cloud and patchy rain. a shade cooler tomorrow, hires of nine or 10 degrees. monday is probably our biggest forecasting headache when we look at the next few days. this fungal system coming into the uk does not quite sure what will happen on its southerly extent. certainly monday looks like a wet day across the uk, gail's forecast for scotland. it isjust the uk, gail's forecast for scotland. it is just how fast this rain will move in, where we will see
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the heaviest of it and indeed how quickly it will pull away east. across england and wales you can anticipate a spell of heavy rain at some stage. by tuesday, it looks like it will be trying to head off into the continent again, little question about how much it will hang back across southern britain, we could see some cloudy and wet conditions of the south—east through tuesday, that in the back of your mind. but for the majority, tuesday will be a day that features high pressure, quite a bit of sunshine around. hopefully it will feel quite springlike, temperatures of nine or 10 degrees.
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hello, this is breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. it is just after 6:30am. lots to bring you up to date with on events of the night, on the crisis in ukraine. we're joined in the studio by our correspondentjonah fisher.
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this is of course the third day since russia invaded ukraine. another busy night, particularly around the capital, kyiv. we can just look at the map here. this is the state of play, you can see, basically how cities all around ukraine have been targeted over the last several days, with the red arrows that you can see the areas where russia has moved troops across the border, from the south in crimea, from the east, down towards kharkiv, and towards kyiv, the capital itself, in particularfrom belarus, a different country from russia, of course, but russia has had a lot of trips based there stop now, in the last half—hour so we have had a new post from ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky. let's have a look and see what he has been saying this morning. speaks ukrainian. he's out and about in kyiv, showing the world that he's still in the city.
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he says there's lots of fake news that he was going to evacuate the city. but he says that's not true. "0ur weapons are our truth," he says. let's now take a look at what happened over night. this is kyiv here. several things have been happening overnight. firstly, there were reports last night of explosions at a power station here on the left bank of kyiv, possibly an attempt to take out power to the city. there appears to have been sustained fighting here to the south west of the city. ukraine's ministry of defence is saying it has shot down a russian transporter plane. one of these an ilyushin 76, which can hold up to 150 paratroopers. we have seen intense fighting around
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vasilkyiv, not far from we have seen intense fighting around vasilkyiv, not farfrom here. they have also been claims from the ukrainians they have shot down to russian transport planes. they are big transport planes, they can take up big transport planes, they can take up to 150 paratroopers on board. that is potentially a very significant development. looking back to kyiv itself, you may remember this road from the news reports on the last couple of days. this is peremogy avenue, heading west from the centre of kyiv. there were huge trafficjams here this week as people tried to flee. 0vernight there were reports of explosions and clashes in this area. this is video from that part of the city which we can't at this point confirm. it's an area which is very near to kyiv zoo, which is really not far at all from the centre of town.
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a real indication ofjust how close the russians are getting. we believe this is a relatively small russian group which was clashing with the ukrainians here, but really, they are getting closer on several fronts to kyiv itself. that is the picture this morning. kyiv is still in the control of the ukrainian government, but it is getting increasingly difficult and of course wretchedly miserable for the 3 million people who live there. so many questions for you, jonah, i know you will answer more at 9:30am. but we have one watcher asking what happens when russia have ukraine? very good question. you can see from the fact so many people are trying to leave, massive queues at the border, lots of people are worried about what that might mean. there has been talk over the last several days that the russians might try to go for people they see as potentially troublesome to them, they have talked about going to ukraine's resident. so we don't
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know. we think there is an expectation those people who have been leading the fight, if you like, who have been prominently anti—russian, and there are plenty of them in ukraine, will be the people who will be looking for them. and people might be confused about why it seems that western allies do not do more. we have heard a lot about sanctions and about the effect those sanctions may or may not have. and they are amassing more troops, more firepower on the borders of nato, but we have to remember, ukraine is not a nato member and therefore we are unlikely to see soldiers on the ground in ukraine from those western allies? lt soldiers on the ground in ukraine from those western allies? it isn't auoin to from those western allies? it isn't going to happen- _ from those western allies? it isn't going to happen. we _ from those western allies? it isn't going to happen. we have - from those western allies? it isn't going to happen. we have heard l from those western allies? it isn't i going to happen. we have heard from western countries they are not going to put troops on the ground, they are not going to fight with ukraine. they have been sending military hardware and military equipment for the ukrainians to use themselves. but no prospect, as we are now, of any western countries sending in forces to fight alongside the ukrainians. very much the ukrainian army is on its own, people feel that
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acutely, and they are deeply frustrated about it. find acutely, and they are deeply frustrated about it. and even if, we were talking _ frustrated about it. and even if, we were talking to _ frustrated about it. and even if, we were talking to our— frustrated about it. and even if, we were talking to our kyiv _ were talking to our kyiv correspondent earlier, there is a threat, a prospect of much more serious and heavy firepower being used from the russian forces. even if that were to happen, we are still unlikely to see soldiers on the ground? unlikely to see soldiers on the round? ., ., ., .,, , unlikely to see soldiers on the round? ., ., ., , ., ground? the rationale as it is now is, in a ground? the rationale as it is now is. in a way. _ ground? the rationale as it is now is. in a way. the _ ground? the rationale as it is now is, in a way, the more _ ground? the rationale as it is now is, in a way, the more that i ground? the rationale as it is now| is, in a way, the more that ukraine exists, the harder they would make it for the russians. it could well push vladimir putin to be more brutal, to attack civilians, because for him, this is almost an existential thing for vladimir putin now. he has to win this war, and if ukraine resists more, one can only imagine there will be more hardware sent in. there is plenty in backup from the russian side. so it could get extremely bloodied, extremely messy.
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get extremely bloodied, extremely mess ., ., ., ., get extremely bloodied, extremely mess ., ., ., ., ~ messy. jonah, for now, thank you. i know ou messy. jonah, for now, thank you. i know you will _ messy. jonah, for now, thank you. i know you will be _ messy. jonah, for now, thank you. i know you will be answering - messy. jonah, for now, thank you. i know you will be answering my i know you will be answering my questions for us later. and in fact defence secretary ben wallace on this programme yesterday was absolutely emphatic you will not be sending british troops to be fighting with russian troops. i think we are going to talk now to hurry leave. he is a teacher, originally from cambridge, but he is now in kharkiv, ukraine's the second largest city. i spoke to yesterday, tell us how it been in the last 24 hours? ,., ., tell us how it been in the last 24 hours? , ., ., ., tell us how it been in the last 24 hours? ,., ., ., .,, hours? good morning. the last 24 hours? good morning. the last 24 hours have — hours? good morning. the last 24 hours have been, _ hours? good morning. the last 24 hours have been, since _ hours? good morning. the last 24 hours have been, since we i hours? good morning. the last 24 hours have been, since we last i hours have been, since we last spoke, not much has really changed. there has still been bombing, there has still been the sounds of four and soldiers nearby, you can only hear it, you can't see smoke, you can't see explosions. you can only hear the sounds echoing. but we decided yesterday evening to go down to the metro to have a look around
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and see what people are doing. we have spoken to some people there, they are probably about 80% of foreigners who have been told by their embassies to stay underground while they wait for a way of getting out of the country. so we want to have a look and i talk to people yesterday, and we just came back home and we were safe during the evening. home and we were safe during the evenina. ., ., ., ., , ._ evening. you are going to stay there? for— evening. you are going to stay there? for now, _ evening. you are going to stay there? for now, yes. - evening. you are going to stay there? for now, yes. until- evening. you are going to stay l there? for now, yes. untilthere evening. you are going to stay i there? for now, yes. untilthere is direct targets _ there? for now, yes. untilthere is direct targets from _ there? for now, yes. untilthere is direct targets from residential i direct targets from residential areas or we do feel that our personal safety is really at risk, we will stay here, yes. we don't have... i mean, we have a plan to go if it gets bad, but at the moment, we don't want to be leaving at this moment. , ., , ., ., ., moment. hurry, we have seen a lot of imaaes of moment. hurry, we have seen a lot of images of what _ moment. hurry, we have seen a lot of images of what those _ moment. hurry, we have seen a lot of images of what those metro _ moment. hurry, we have seen a lot of images of what those metro stations l images of what those metro stations are like, we have seen some interviews with people talking about their fear at being forced underground. what was it like when you went? i know that you just want to have a look around, but what was it like? lt to have a look around, but what was it like? , ., ., ., , , it like? it is hard to really put the words _ it like? it is hard to really put
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the words together. - it like? it is hard to really put| the words together. obviously the words together. 0bviously depressing. not most because you have families, you have got children down there and you have got people who feel they have been forced underground. like i said, 80% of the people were foreigners, mostly indian, african, natives, mostly students who have been told by the embassy to go down there, and spirits were quite high, people were playing cards, talking, cuddled up and, i guess, playing cards, talking, cuddled up and, iguess, in playing cards, talking, cuddled up and, i guess, in that kind of spirits that we all have, making not the most of a situation but coming together, but it was still a very depressing atmosphere, still a very bleak outlook on a really beautiful country and a beautiful city as well. ., , ., , , 0leksandra matviychuk is from the centre for civil liberties in kyiv. 0leksandra, what has it been like overnight? are you going to stay there? your president want
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overnight, he is expecting russian troops to storm the capital in the coming hours. troops to storm the capital in the coming hours-— coming hours. first of all, i want to say that _ coming hours. first of all, i want to say that it _ coming hours. first of all, i want to say that it was _ coming hours. first of all, i want to say that it was a _ coming hours. first of all, i want to say that it was a very - coming hours. first of all, i want to say that it was a very difficult | to say that it was a very difficult night in kyiv, and maybe the worst for the amount of sleep we had. we still try to understand what is going on, but one thing is clearfor me, the screed of russia has failed, because they said when they appeared on the ukrainian borders after three orfour hours they on the ukrainian borders after three or four hours they would occupy kyiv, but kyiv is still resisting. we had shelling, constant shelling, and even now i hear some sounds of it. this night we had street battles and also, in some districts of kyiv,
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the rockets shelling into the house locks, but kyiv fights, we know that we have a lot of injured people, and now the injured people have treatment in lviv, my colleagues from lviv told me that after that night, a lot of injured appeared here. night, a lot of in'ured appeared here. . . night, a lot of in'ured appeared here. ., ., i. night, a lot of in'ured appeared here. ., ., ., here. can i ask you, oleksandra, sor to here. can i ask you, oleksandra, sorry to interrupt, _ here. can i ask you, oleksandra, sorry to interrupt, i _ here. can i ask you, oleksandra, sorry to interrupt, i just - here. can i ask you, oleksandra, sorry to interrupt, i just wanted | here. can i ask you, oleksandra, l sorry to interrupt, i just wanted to sorry to interrupt, ijust wanted to ask how you are feeling about the prospect of russian troops potentially taking over your home city? we potentially taking over your home ci ? ~ �* ., , city? we will fight. but i hope it will not happen. _ city? we will fight. but i hope it will not happen. but _ city? we will fight. but i hope it will not happen. but if - city? we will fight. but i hope it will not happen. but if it i city? we will fight. but i hope it i will not happen. but if it happens, it will be only a temporary occupation, because sooner or later putin will fail.— putin will fail. oleksandra, stay with us, i— putin will fail. oleksandra, stay with us. i just _ putin will fail. oleksandra, stay with us, i just want _ putin will fail. oleksandra, stay with us, i just want to - putin will fail. oleksandra, stay with us, i just want to bring i putin will fail. oleksandra, stay i with us, ijust want to bring harry backin with us, ijust want to bring harry back in at this point. hopefully you are able to hear a little of what
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0leksandra was telling us. i wonder if you can paint a picture of what life is like on the ground right now, because again, we have seen lots of images of people queueing for petrol, to be able to leave, queueing up forfood, difficult for petrol, to be able to leave, queueing up for food, difficult to get cash from cash machines, tell us a bit about what you are experiencing right now? {lil a bit about what you are experiencing right now? of course. firstl , experiencing right now? of course. firstly. like — experiencing right now? of course. firstly, like oleksandra _ experiencing right now? of course. firstly, like oleksandra was i experiencing right now? of course. | firstly, like oleksandra was saying, firstly, like 0leksandra was saying, the ukrainian people will fight, no doubt about that at all. there is not going to be a walkover by putin and the russian soldiers. it is a testament to how strong they are. going back to your question, like you said, underground, you are absolutely spot on, there are or at least their work use, on thursday, the atms. people taking cash out whenever they could, cheers at the banks, desperately trying to get money in a physical form, banks, desperately trying to get money in a physicalform, i know that banks have stopped giving
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credit, some of the applications have gone down. then there are cheers for petrol, i think the petrol around us is now sold out because they were no cheers yesterday, so i am guessing these supplies have gone. supermarkets are kind of running very reduced and very chaotic hours, so one minutes these shops are closed, same with these shops are closed, same with the water pumps, you can be there one minute and they are ten people queueing, an hour later there is nobody queueing. so it is a bit hit and miss, it is about almost timing is right and being lucky, and not having to wait for a long period of time, and being able to arrive when there are things there. l’m time, and being able to arrive when there are things there.— there are things there. i'm “ust auoin there are things there. i'm “ust going back fl there are things there. i'm “ust going back to i there are things there. i'm “ust going back to oleksandra. i there are things there. i'm just going back to oleksandra. just| going back to 0leksandra. just finally, have you considered fighting? will you pick up a weapon? will you prepare a molotov cocktail as your president has asked? abs, lat as your president has asked? a lot of --eole as your president has asked? a lot of people in _ as your president has asked? a lot of people in kyiv — as your president has asked? a lot of people in kyiv have _ as your president has asked? lot of people in kyiv have made molotov cocktails this night. and a lot of
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people joined territorial defence, whole families joined territorial defence. we are all trying to find our own place, how to fight the russians. now i am co—ordinating the initiative and together providing information or logistical and humanitarian support. it is our input into the whole struggle. this work and the work of other people to the common cause, to the common battle, is very important. thank you very much for talking to us and we are sending strength. take care. it is 6:45am. good morning. the repercussions, implications of what happened there is extending to the sports world. good morning to both of you. in the grand scheme of things, it pales in
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comparison. the thing you have to remember is russia has historically played such a huge role in sport. when you think about it, since 2000, they have staged two 0lympics, a world cup, champions league, and sport �*s big it is power. and now, sports governing bodies are responding to that in the only way they can. the biggest in the past 24 hours, news that russia has been stripped of the champions league final this year. it was due to be held in st petersburg, but has been switched to paris at the stade de france. manchester united interim manager ralf rangnick, whose side are in the last 16 of the competition, has backed the decision. the situation itself is desperately sad. i think everybody will think similarly about that. this is just an incredible situation that we have that kind of war within europe, and therefore, i think the decision that
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you overtook was inevitable and it was the right decision —— uefa. chelsea manager thomas tuchel admits uncertainty around the club are clouding his side's preparation for tomorrow's league cup final against liverpool. now, chelsea are owned by russian billionnaire roman abramovich, believed to be close to russian president vladimir putin. tuchel said the situation for chelsea was horrible. this season's russian grand prix has been axed, an f1 statement said it had been agreed at a meeting of stakeholders "that it is impossible "to hold the race in the current circumstances." it had been due to take place in sochi in september. plenty of messages of support for ukraine from across the world of sport over recent days, as well plenty of protests against the military action, including from tennis's russian world number seven. andrey rublev went through to the final of the dubai tennis championship, and immediately after his victory in the semis,
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wrote on a courtside tv camera "no war please," seemingly a message to his own government. let's move away from events in ukraine forjust a moment. the six nations continues this weekend. ireland play italy tomorrow, but two matches today for you today. first up, it's scotland against leaders france at murrayfield. the scots were narrowly beaten by wales last time out, having beaten england in their opening game. they will, however, be without flanker hamish watson who tested positive for covid last night and won't make the game. his captain, though, remains optimistic. the exciting thing for me is i know we can beat them, i truly believe we can beat them, and if we get everything right on the day, easier said than done, everything the moment is massive. every ten minutes to get through is huge. and if we can win the first ten, 15, 20
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minutes, we grow in confidence as the game goes on and get a good foothold in the game, hopefully we can grow through the game and get the result we are more than capable of getting. after that, there's another huge match at twickenham, with england taking on the reigning champions wales. both sides are looking for back—to—back wins after wales saw off scotland. and england's new—look side comfortably beat italy in the last round of matches. it's the first time england's stadium will be packed with fans for a championship in two years. and head coach eddiejones is hoping for the twickenham factor. we wa nt we want to show what new england can do. it is a new team, it has a new mindset about the bay we want to play the game, it has a new leadership group, but these games are there to test you. a really difficult task to test you. a really difficult task to claw england _ to test you. a really difficult task to claw england back _ to test you. a really difficult task to claw england back because i to claw england back because they always _ to claw england back because they always have the ability to pick up points— always have the ability to pick up points and — always have the ability to pick up points and score points well, so it is imperative we start the game really— is imperative we start the game really well and taken to england as opposed _ really well and taken to england as opposed being on the back foot and coughing _ opposed being on the back foot and coughing up a few points.
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norwich city are in relegation trouble right at the bottom of the premier league. they lost 2—0 at southampton last night, goals from che adams and this one from 0riol romeu gave saints three points that lift them to ninth in the table. norwich remain bottom, five points from safety. just before i go, cameron murray has got through to the final of the mexican open, which is huge. he'll have a pretty daunting opponent in the final, none other than 3—time champion rafa nadal. we will have that tomorrow morning. we have the latest on the ukraine coming up. the duchess of cornwall has been speaking exclusively to the bbc about her work supporting victims of domestic abuse, and how she plans to continue it after she becomes queen consort. camilla, and the woman who inspired her to get involved in this area sat down at clarence house for a conversation with radio 4's emma barnett. this took place before the duchess caught covid.
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the duchess of cornwall at the heart of the royal family. the duchess of cornwall at the heart of the royalfamily. it the duchess of cornwall at the heart of the royal family. it wasn't always that way. but we now know that once prince charles becomes king, camilla will be queen. recognition for her loyalty and her work campaigning on a variety of causes, but in particular, that of domestic abuse. this causes, but in particular, that of domestic abuse.— causes, but in particular, that of domestic abuse. this country has been appalled — domestic abuse. this country has been appalled and _ domestic abuse. this country has been appalled and saddened i domestic abuse. this country has been appalled and saddened by l domestic abuse. this country has i been appalled and saddened by the loss of women to violence this year. on average, one woman is killed by a man every three days. lt on average, one woman is killed by a man every three days.— man every three days. it was this meetin: man every three days. it was this meeting in _ man every three days. it was this meeting in 2016 _ man every three days. it was this meeting in 2016 with _ man every three days. it was this meeting in 2016 with diana i man every three days. it was thisl meeting in 2016 with diana parkes that inspire the duchess. diana's daughter, joanna simpson, was battered to death by her husband in 2010 with a deal children within
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earshot. after the killing, diana parkes set up a foundation to help transform the lives of children impacted by domestic violence. hagar impacted by domestic violence. how nice to see you _ impacted by domestic violence. limo nice to see you again. impacted by domestic violence. how nice to see you again. and _ impacted by domestic violence. how nice to see you again. and now i impacted by domestic violence. how nice to see you again. and now she. nice to see you again. and now she has come to _ nice to see you again. and now she has come to clarence _ nice to see you again. and now she has come to clarence house i nice to see you again. and now she has come to clarence house to i nice to see you again. and now she has come to clarence house to be. has come to clarence house to be reunited with camilla and to hear how her story has inspire the work of a future queen. thank you so much for having us. it is a pleasure to be back here again, and also to be with you, diana, as well. �* , , ., if and also to be with you, diana, as well-_ if wei well. absolutely wonderful. if we could no well. absolutely wonderful. if we could go back — well. absolutely wonderful. if we could go back to _ well. absolutely wonderful. if we could go back to when _ well. absolutely wonderful. if we could go back to when you i well. absolutely wonderful. if we could go back to when you very i well. absolutely wonderful. if we i could go back to when you very first met in 2016, which of course was an incredibly powerful moment. i know for both of you. your royal highness, i wonder if i can start with you about what you can remember about meeting. l with you about what you can remember about meeting-— about meeting. i was so deeply shocked, about meeting. i was so deeply shocked. i _ about meeting. i was so deeply shocked, i don't _ about meeting. i was so deeply shocked, i don't think - about meeting. i was so deeply shocked, i don't think in i about meeting. i was so deeply i shocked, i don't think in those days i shocked, idon't think in those days i really— shocked, i don't think in those days i really knew that much about domestic— i really knew that much about domestic abuse, because it was something that we were all brought
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up something that we were all brought up to bow — something that we were all brought up to be... it was very hush—hush subject _ up to be... it was very hush—hush subject it — up to be... it was very hush—hush subject. it was a taboo subject. to actually— subject. it was a taboo subject. to aciually sit — subject. it was a taboo subject. to actually sit there and have somebody talking _ actually sit there and have somebody talking about it, well, i will never forget _ talking about it, well, i will never forget that moment, and i don't think_ forget that moment, and i don't think i_ forget that moment, and i don't think i would be as involved in it now if— think i would be as involved in it now if i— think i would be as involved in it now if i hadn't met you. you are the one that _ now if i hadn't met you. you are the one that started out my passion. and i remember— one that started out my passion. and i remember saying to you at the time, _ i remember saying to you at the time, i— i remember saying to you at the time, i don't know what it is, but i really. _ time, i don't know what it is, but i really. really — time, i don't know what it is, but i really, really want to do something to help _ really, really want to do something to help. that is how it all started. it to help. that is how it all started. it was _ to help. that is how it all started. it was that— to help. that is how it all started. it was that like, i suppose, sitting with his audience? a member of the royalfamily with his audience? a member of the royal family listening to this? because you have tried to make it your life that work, to have some impact in this area. she your life that work, to have some impact in this area.— your life that work, to have some impact in this area. she was killed in 2010, so _ impact in this area. she was killed in 2010, so this _ impact in this area. she was killed in 2010, so this was _ impact in this area. she was killed in 2010, so this was six _ impact in this area. she was killed in 2010, so this was six years i in 2010, so this was six years later. it is still obviously bringing tears, you never get over the grief, but you learn to walk alongside it, really. 0f
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alongside it, really. of course, when you hear all the story again, it brings everything back. you never... and dave doesn't go by that you give it some thought, especially looking after the children, who are my salvation. looking after the children, who are my salvation-— looking after the children, who are my salvation. what do they make of ou my salvation. what do they make of you coming — my salvation. what do they make of you coming here — my salvation. what do they make of you coming here today? _ my salvation. what do they make of you coming here today? they i my salvation. what do they make of you coming here today? they werel you coming here today? they were deliuhted, you coming here today? they were delighted, obviously. _ you coming here today? they were delighted, obviously. they- you coming here today? they were delighted, obviously. they said, i delighted, obviously. they said, good luck, grannie! can delighted, obviously. they said, good luck, grannie!— good luck, grannie! can i i ask diana something? _ good luck, grannie! can i i ask diana something? please. i. good luck, grannie! can i i ask. diana something? please. iwant good luck, grannie! can i i ask- diana something? please. i want to know how it — diana something? please. i want to know how it affected _ diana something? please. i want to know how it affected your _ know how it affected your grandchildren. do you talk to them about— grandchildren. do you talk to them about it? _ grandchildren. do you talk to them about it? ., ., , . ., ., , about it? katie was much more able to seak about it? katie was much more able to speak about _ about it? katie was much more able to speak about it. _ about it? katie was much more able to speak about it. as _ about it? katie was much more able to speak about it. as i _ about it? katie was much more able to speak about it. as i said - about it? katie was much more able to speak about it. as i said to i about it? katie was much more able | to speak about it. as i said to emma earlier, this was... they were just now, they could hear her being hit, and this is not a gunshot, one bullet, you are dead. this was 14 strikes on her head with a claw hammer. and when i had to go and
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identify her, i couldn't believe what he had done to her. if is the children who suffer so much, and the sad thing is you know that when you talk about domestic abuse, if children are in a family where there is domestic abuse, they grow up thinking that that is normal behaviour. l thinking that that is normal behaviour.— thinking that that is normal behaviour. ~ ., .,, behaviour. i think hearing those details are _ behaviour. i think hearing those details are really _ behaviour. i think hearing those details are really important. it | behaviour. i think hearing those | details are really important. it is a testament to you that they are where they are now.— where they are now. well, it is a testament _ where they are now. well, it is a testament to _ where they are now. well, it is a testament to them _ where they are now. well, it is a testament to them as _ where they are now. well, it is a testament to them as well, i where they are now. well, it is a testament to them as well, isn'tl where they are now. well, it is a i testament to them as well, isn't it? joe was a lovely document she had obviously brought them up really well until they were nine and ten. she gave them lots of love. l well until they were nine and ten. she gave them lots of love. i think the discussion _ she gave them lots of love. i think the discussion of— she gave them lots of love. i think the discussion of domestic i she gave them lots of love. i think the discussion of domestic abuse i the discussion of domestic abuse during lockdown, it did shine a new light on it of course. do you feel that lockdown did change perceptions? how do you feel it is at the moment? l perceptions? how do you feel it is at the moment?— perceptions? how do you feel it is at the moment? i don't think it has not an at the moment? i don't think it has got any better- _ at the moment? i don't think it has got any better- i — at the moment? i don't think it has got any better. i think— at the moment? i don't think it has got any better. i think in _ at the moment? i don't think it hasi got any better. i think in lockdown, it was— got any better. i think in lockdown, it was terrible because people actually — it was terrible because people actually couldn't escape. you see
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the numbers have gone up. but on the other— the numbers have gone up. but on the other hand. _ the numbers have gone up. but on the other hand. i_ the numbers have gone up. but on the other hand, i think it has drawn a lot of— other hand, i think it has drawn a lot of people's attention to it. i think— lot of people's attention to it. i think it — lot of people's attention to it. i think it is — lot of people's attention to it. i think it is talked about much more now _ think it is talked about much more now. , ~' ii' ii . ., now. yes, i think in 2010 when joe was killed. — now. yes, i think in 2010 when joe was killed, everything _ now. yes, i think in 2010 when joe was killed, everything was - now. yes, i think in 2010 when joe was killed, everything was swept l was killed, everything was swept under the carpet. hoar was killed, everything was swept under the carpet.— was killed, everything was swept under the carpet. how powerful is it to have somebody _ under the carpet. how powerful is it to have somebody in _ under the carpet. how powerful is it to have somebody in her royal- to have somebody in her royal highness's position talk about this, because it has been so taboo. marvellous. itjust gives it such headlines. d0 marvellous. it 'ust gives it such headlines.— marvellous. it 'ust gives it such headlines. ., headlines. do you feel that it has shifted, headlines. do you feel that it has shifted. or— headlines. do you feel that it has shifted. or do _ headlines. do you feel that it has shifted, or do you _ headlines. do you feel that it has shifted, or do you feel there - headlines. do you feel that it has shifted, or do you feel there is i shifted, or do you feel there is still that feeling around it? you have been talking about... if still that feeling around it? you have been talking about... if you can speak _ have been talking about... if you can speak out. — have been talking about... if you can speak out, talk _ have been talking about... if you can speak out, talk to _ have been talking about... if you can speak out, talk to your - have been talking about... if you i can speak out, talk to your friends, talk to— can speak out, talk to your friends, talk to anybody who wants to listen, because _ talk to anybody who wants to listen, because the more you talk about it, the more _ because the more you talk about it, the more people are going to be able to burden _ the more people are going to be able to burden themselves. i think what happens. _ to burden themselves. i think what happens, they feel guilty, they feel the same. — happens, they feel guilty, they feel the same, they feel it is their fault — the same, they feel it is their fault |f— the same, they feel it is their fault. , . , ., the same, they feel it is their fault. , . ., the same, they feel it is their fault. , . . , . fault. it is nearly a year since sarah everard _ fault. it is nearly a year since sarah everard was _ fault. it is nearly a year since sarah everard was kidnappedi fault. it is nearly a year since -
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sarah everard was kidnapped and murdered, a serving police officer, there have been others, and you actually spoke in october of last year where you said, we need to get men involved in this movement, do not in any way hold all men for sexual violence, not in any way hold all men for sexualviolence, but not in any way hold all men for sexual violence, but we do need them to tackle it. how important do you think it is to get that message out there that we need a whole culture change? we there that we need a whole culture chance? ~ .. there that we need a whole culture chance? ~ ., . there that we need a whole culture chance? ~ .. . ., change? we do need a whole culture chance, change? we do need a whole culture change. and — change? we do need a whole culture change. and we _ change? we do need a whole culture change, and we have _ change? we do need a whole culture change, and we have to _ change? we do need a whole culture change, and we have to start - change? we do need a whole culture change, and we have to start at the l change, and we have to start at the beginning — change, and we have to start at the beginning i— change, and we have to start at the beginning. i think children, school have _ beginning. i think children, school have got— beginning. i think children, school have got to — beginning. i think children, school have got to be taught respect, and i think if_ have got to be taught respect, and i think if you — have got to be taught respect, and i think if you can teach boys respect for girls— think if you can teach boys respect for girls and vice—versa, we would be at _ for girls and vice—versa, we would be at the — for girls and vice—versa, we would be at the beginning of trying to solve _ be at the beginning of trying to solve this— be at the beginning of trying to solve this problem. how it is going to happen. — solve this problem. how it is going to happen, i am solve this problem. how it is going to happen, lam not solve this problem. how it is going to happen, i am not quite sure. how lon- to happen, i am not quite sure. how long is_ to happen, i am not quite sure. how long isa_ to happen, i am not quite sure. how long is a piece of string? i think we have — long is a piece of string? i think we have got to go back to the beginning and start with the smallest, and just build up this idea that — smallest, and just build up this idea that you have to have respect
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for human — idea that you have to have respect for human beings. it is lack of respect — for human beings. it is lack of respect and treating women, and people _ respect and treating women, and people thinking they can get away with it _ people thinking they can get away with it i_ people thinking they can get away with it. i am sure a lot of people do it— with it. i am sure a lot of people do it and — with it. i am sure a lot of people do it and think there is nothing wi°ii9~ — do it and think there is nothing wronu. . . , , , do it and think there is nothing wronu. . . , ,, _ do it and think there is nothing wronu. ,, . , ,, _ . wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes, wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes. camilla _ wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes, camilla has— wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes, camilla has used _ wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes, camilla has used her- wrong. since being inspired by diana parkes, camilla has used her profile| parkes, camilla has used her profile to champion women's causes. but at some point, her role will change. this was the queen's message to the nation in which it was revealed that camilla will eventually herself be known as queen. but with a change of role, will there be a change of focus? with your ability to shine the light, and you have many causes that are close to your heart, but this seems to have been particularly something you have really zoned in on, is that correct? that something you have really zoned in on, is that correct?— on, is that correct? that is quite correct, on, is that correct? that is quite correct. and _ on, is that correct? that is quite correct. and i — on, is that correct? that is quite correct, and i think— on, is that correct? that is quite correct, and i think hopefully - on, is that correct? that is quite correct, and i think hopefully i i correct, and i think hopefully i shatt— correct, and i think hopefully i shall do — correct, and i think hopefully i shall do it— correct, and i think hopefully i shall do it forever.— correct, and i think hopefully i shall do it forever. yes, you said ou will shall do it forever. yes, you said you will keep — shall do it forever. yes, you said you will keep banging _ shall do it forever. yes, you said you will keep banging the -
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shall do it forever. yes, you saidj you will keep banging the drum. shall do it forever. yes, you said l you will keep banging the drum. i should not let go now. i have got to a point _ should not let go now. i have got to a point where things are beginning to move _ a point where things are beginning to move just a tiny bit. but if they can move — to move just a tiny bit. but if they can move that tiny bit, they are going _ can move that tiny bit, they are going to — can move that tiny bit, they are going to be able to move that much further~ _ going to be able to move that much further~ i_ going to be able to move that much further. i will probably be so old by the _ further. i will probably be so old by the time something really wonderful happens, but i better keep on. �* wonderful happens, but i better keep on. ~ .. wonderful happens, but i better keep on. .. , wonderful happens, but i better keep on. ., , . on. and of course there will come a time when — on. and of course there will come a time when your— on. and of course there will come a time when your role _ on. and of course there will come a time when your role changes, - on. and of course there will come a time when your role changes, the l time when your role changes, the queen with her recent announcement about your role is endorsing the role you do in the difficult areas. how important is that for you and your causes? {iii how important is that for you and your causes?— your causes? of course it is a great honour, your causes? of course it is a great honour. it — your causes? of course it is a great honour, it couldn't _ your causes? of course it is a great honour, it couldn't be _ your causes? of course it is a great honour, it couldn't be anything - honour, it couldn't be anything else, _ honour, it couldn't be anything else, irut— honour, it couldn't be anything else, but it does help it, i am going — else, but it does help it, i am going to — else, but it does help it, i am going to keep on with these causes. if i going to keep on with these causes. it i start _ going to keep on with these causes. if i start something like this, i am not going — if i start something like this, i am not going to give up, i am just going— not going to give up, i am just going to— not going to give up, i am just going to keep going to try and help the iii
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that— hope i should do it for a lifetime. that is— hope i should do it for a lifetime. that is commitment, diana. | rdrill that is commitment, diana. iwill hold ou that is commitment, diana. iwill hold you to _ that is commitment, diana. iwill hold you to that. _ that is commitment, diana. iwill hold you to that. we _ that is commitment, diana. iwill hold you to that. we talked - that is commitment, diana. iwill| hold you to that. we talked about the platinum _ hold you to that. we talked about the platinum aaa, _ hold you to that. we talked about the platinum am, we _ hold you to that. we talked about the platinum am, we are - hold you to that. we talked about the platinum am, we are coming hold you to that. we talked about - the platinum am, we are coming out the platinum aaa, we are coming out of strange times. what is that like for the country at the moment? to have that to look forward to. it have that to look forward to. it is lovel to have that to look forward to. it is lovely to have — have that to look forward to. it is lovely to have something happy to look forward to. we have all been through— look forward to. we have all been through hard times, we have all been locked _ through hard times, we have all been locked away— through hard times, we have all been locked away from our family and friends, — locked away from our family and friends, and now we can all get together— friends, and now we can all get together again and celebrate. yes, well, together again and celebrate. yes, well. thank — together again and celebrate. yes, well. thank you — together again and celebrate. yes, well, thank you very _ together again and celebrate. mei: well, thank you very much for having us today. well, thank you very much for having us toda . ., ~ well, thank you very much for having us toda . . ,, i. .. well, thank you very much for having ustoda . . ~' ., ,, us today. thank you for inspiring me. i wouldn't _ us today. thank you for inspiring me. i wouldn't be _ us today. thank you for inspiring me. i wouldn't be here - us today. thank you for inspiring me. i wouldn't be here if- us today. thank you for inspiring me. i wouldn't be here if it - us today. thank you for inspiring l me. i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you _ me. i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for ou. ., ., , me. i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for ou. . ., me. i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for ou. . ,. ,, me. i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for ou. . ,. for you. that was a duchess of cornwall speaking _ for you. that was a duchess of cornwall speaking to - for you. that was a duchess of cornwall speaking to emma i for you. that was a duchess of - cornwall speaking to emma barnett alongside domestic violence campaigner diana parkes. and you can hear more of that interview on radio 4's woman's hour, which is available on bbc sounds.
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. our headlines today: the battle for kyiv — reports that russian forces are targeting a military base and an electricity station in the capital, hours after ukraine's president warns russian forces are preparing
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to storm the city. annie to storm the city. and president zelensky posts a new annie and president zelensky posts a new video and social media telling people not to believe they news that he has left the country, and he vows to fight on. —— ukrainian president zelensky. as ukranians arm themselves, the uk government warns people to brace for sickening scenes over the coming days. at the united nations a resolution calling for moscow to stop the attack is blocked by the russians. tens of thousands of fleeing ukrainians cross into neighbouring countries, sparking a call for extra humanitarian support. good morning. we have a lot of fine weather on the way for the uk this weekend, and it will be breezy at times, but nothing like the strong winds that our recent storms have brought us. i'll have all the details for your coming up. it's saturday, the 26th of february. our main story: there have been frequent blasts and bursts of gunfire in kyiv overnight, hours after president volodymyr zelensky
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warned that russian forces were preparing to storm the capital. the ukrainians said they had shot down a large russian plane carrying troops, as a battle takes place for control of an airport to the south of kiev. and the moscow—based news agency interfax is reporting kremlin claims, yet to be verified by the bbc, that russian troops have taken control of the city of melitopol, in the south—east of ukraine. jonah fisher reports. explosions. a european capital of 3 million people is under attack. the night has brought reports of strikes on a power station and explosions in western parts of kyiv. russia also appears to be trying
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to bring in reinforcements from the air. ukraine says it has shot down a military transport plane to the south of kyiv, with perhaps as many as 150 troops on board. as the night began, ukraine's president posted this outside his offices — proof that he was still with his people in kyiv. rumours ofan rumours of an evacuation and of him telling the army to lay down its weapons were fake news, he said. our weapons were fake news, he said. our weapon is our truce. russia's president urged ukrainians to rise up and overthrow their leaders. translation: | appeal- to the servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine. do not let neo—nazis and ukrainian ultranationalists use your children, wives and the elderly as human shields. take power into your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, south and east. the russians are not advancing as fast as they had perhaps hoped, but there is a certain inevitability about their progress.
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in the central ukrainian city of dnipro, people are starting to consider what had until recently been unthinkable. translation: idon't. want to lose my country. i love it so much, you can't even imagine that. it is quite shocking for me and right now i'm thinking about taking a weapon into my hands, at least, to defend my local district. so far ukraine is resisting. the sad truth is that the tougher they make it for the russian forces, the more brutal the instructions from president putin are likely to be. jonah fisher, bbc news. in a few minutes, we'll catch up with our kyiv correspondent, james waterhouse. western nations have taken the rare step of ordering personal sanctions on vladimir putin and his foreign minister sergey lavrov. their assets in the us, eu, uk and canada will be frozen, and in the case of the us, a travel ban imposed. however, it's unclear what practical effect the sanctions will have.
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david willis sent this report from washington. repudiation of russia's actions is growing. this the scene in georgia, where 30,000 people took to the capital, tbilisi, on a show of support forfellow capital, tbilisi, on a show of support for fellow former soviet nation ukraine. the boulevards of one is out as to the streets of san francisco, people are marching. —— from the boulevards of buonos aires. as he left the white house on the weekend, it was announced president biden is taking the extraordinary step of broadening a punitive package of economic sanctions to include both russian president vladimir putin and his loyal lieutenant, sergei lavrov. following a telephone — lieutenant, sergei lavrov. following a telephone conversation _ lieutenant, sergei lavrov. following a telephone conversation president| a telephone conversation president biden held with european commission president ursula von der leyen, and in alignment with a decision by our european allies, the us willjoin
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them in sanctioning president putin and foreign minister sergei lavrov and foreign minister sergei lavrov and members of the russian national security team. i expect we will have more specific details later this afternoon. more specific details later this afternoon-— afternoon. more significant, perhaps. — afternoon. more significant, perhaps. than _ afternoon. more significant, perhaps, than a _ afternoon. more significant, perhaps, than a freeze - afternoon. more significant, perhaps, than a freeze on i afternoon. more significant, i perhaps, than a freeze on their personal assets, the measured bands both men from travelling to the united states. russia's diplomatic isolation is growing as well. members of the united nations security council gathered in new york to consider a us resolution condemning moscow's actions in ukraine. the discomfiture of its ambassador, the current chairman of the council, apparent as he read a list of more than 60 countries that supported the draft declaration. australia, albania, andorra, antigua and barbuda...— and barbuda... although it has yet to ublicl and barbuda... although it has yet to publicly condemn _ and barbuda... although it has yet to publicly condemn russia's - and barbuda... although it has yet i to publicly condemn russia's action, china's abstention was taken as a sign of moscow's growing international isolation. the motion was defeated when russia, predictably, exercised its veto. you
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can veto this _ predictably, exercised its veto. ti’f7l. can veto this resolution but you cannot veto our voices. you cannot veto the truth. you cannot veto our principles. you cannot veto the ukrainian people. you cannot veto the un charter. and you will not veto accountability.— veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions _ veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that _ veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that it _ veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that it is _ veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that it is standing l veto accountability. sensitive to l suggestions that it is standing by as the suffering in ukraine continues, the us is promising to send more arms and ammunition. but officials concede that other than that, sanctions are all it has to offer. this conflict is testing the limits of american power. david joins us now from washington. what, in reality, kind of effect do you think the sanctions will have? well, victoria, ithink you think the sanctions will have? well, victoria, i think as far as the sanctions on vladimir putin are they carry more symbolic than
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economic weight, if you like. it is very unusual, of course, for an acting head of state to be sanctioned in this way. the name of vladimir putin now lines up alongside that of bashar al—assad and kimjong—un of north korea, amongst a small collection of other former leaders and despots. as far as mr putin's financial assets are concerned it is not really known where they are, whether they are here in the united states or where, so it is unlikely to hit him where it really hurts. although this sanction package by the united states does include a travel ban on mr putin and some of his acolytes within the russian federation. now, the united states may be pointed today that it was looking to basically send a clear message to the russian leadership that its actions in ukraine not be tolerated. —— made the point today. it is the
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latest move either to try to target the inner circle, if you like, of the inner circle, if you like, of the russian federation, mr putin the latest member, rather than the russian people themselves. thank you ve much, russian people themselves. thank you very much. david- _ russian people themselves. thank you very much, david. thank _ russian people themselves. thank you very much, david. thank you. - russian people themselves. thank you very much, david. thank you. let's - very much, david. thank you. let's look at some of the political reaction a little closer to home. let's speak to our political correspondent, lone wells. lone, the prime minister has issued his own appeal to the russian people? that's right. this comes after the prime minister yesterday spoke to president zelensky of ukraine, who asked for both more support with military equipment but also more support encouraging russians to see what is being done in their name. in response to that point, boris johnson last night put out this video, addressing both russians and ukrainians in their own language.
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now, in response to president zelensky�*s second request for more military equipment support, government officials you have been pretty tightlipped about what exactly that might look like for security reasons, but i do understand more military support of that kind is on its way from the uk, and of course as well there are continued efforts to try and hit russia's economy through economic sanctions, including now freezing the assets of president putin himself, but also efforts to try and make russia feel like a pariah state, a phrase which the foreign secretary liz truss used after russia was the only country to vote against a un security council resolution which would have condemned russia's actions and forced russia to withdraw troops from ukraine. there are still some mps here who fear that the uk and other western allies are not doing
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enough to support the ukrainians at this time, and be pretty grim assessment i received last night from western officials from their intelligence is that at the moment, while ukrainians are putting up a tough fight, the more resistance but those russian forces made, the more that they do not meet their objectives, the more brutal and indiscriminately violent those russian forces may become. ione, for now, russian forces may become. ione, for now. thank — russian forces may become. ione, for now. thank you- _ russian forces may become. ione, for now, thank you. we _ russian forces may become. ione, for now, thank you. we are _ russian forces may become. ione, for now, thank you. we are hoping - russian forces may become. ione, for now, thank you. we are hoping to - now, thank you. we are hoping to speak to james waterhouse and cute in just a speak to james waterhouse and cute injust a moment speak to james waterhouse and cute in just a moment or two. let's speak to james waterhouse and cute injust a moment or two. let's bring you these pictures. in the last few minutes we have seen these images from the city of melissa pohl, in the south—east of ukraine. —— meliotopol. these have been verified by the bbc, and what they show our residential building which been struck by a missile. the moscow based news agency interfax has reported kremlin claims the city has
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been taken by russian troops. now, thatis been taken by russian troops. now, that is a claim that hasn't been verified. but we havejust that is a claim that hasn't been verified. but we have just seen the devastation, we havejust heard verified. but we have just seen the devastation, we have just heard the devastation, we have just heard the devastation there, haven't we, from one missile strike in a city called melitopol. we will keep you right up to date, and as victoria says, we are hoping to speak to our correspondents in kyivjust a bit later. but before vladimir putin stepped up the russian attack on kyiv overnight he called on ukraine's military to abandon the government, describing them as terrorists, drug addicts and neo—nazis stop the european union and the uk have announced personal sanctions against president putin and his foreign minister, sergei lavrov. from moscow, steve rosenberg reports. as the kremlin's plan any clearer? four months, putin kept the world in suspense. —— for. then invasion of ukraine. now an appeal to ukrainian soldiers to topple the government.
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translation:— soldiers to topple the government. translation: state power into your own hands. translation: state power into your own hands- -- _ translation: state power into your own hands. -- takes _ translation: state power into your own hands. -- takes power. - translation: state power into your own hands. -- takes power. i- translation: state power into your own hands. -- takes power. i think. own hands. —— takes power. i think it will be easier for us to deal with you, then with the drug addicts and neo—nazis that have installed themselves in kyiv. the and neo-nazis that have installed themselves in kyiv.— and neo-nazis that have installed themselves in kyiv. the state media is backin: themselves in kyiv. the state media is backing the _ themselves in kyiv. the state media is backing the kremlin's _ themselves in kyiv. the state media is backing the kremlin's war. - is backing the kremlin's war. russia's foreign minister tried to justify it. mr lovegrove, let's put euphemisms aside. —— mr lavrov. this is not a special military operation, is not a special military operation, is it? it is a full—scale russian invasion of ukraine. how can you possiblyjustify invading a sovereign nation, your neighbour? translation: in sovereign nation, your neighbour? translation:— sovereign nation, your neighbour? translation: , ., , , , translation: in terms of euphemisms, we have a lot _ translation: in terms of euphemisms, we have a lot to — translation: in terms of euphemisms, we have a lot to learn _ translation: in terms of euphemisms, we have a lot to learn from _ translation: in terms of euphemisms, we have a lot to learn from you - we have a lot to learn from you anglo—saxons. you called the destruction of their arc a battle for democracy. —— destruction of iraq. russia will ensure the demilitarisation of ukraine. it is
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demilitarisation of ukraine. it is time, the west _ demilitarisation of ukraine. it is time, the west thinks, for sanctions against sergei lavrov and vladimir putin, theirforeign against sergei lavrov and vladimir putin, their foreign assets are being frozen by britain and the eu. personal sanctions against vladimir putin sends a strong message. it shows that western leaders view him increasingly as a pariah. but would it make the kremlin leader change course? almost certainly not. because president putin seems determined to continue with his military plan. and here's part of it. this is belgorod, western russia, nearthe it. this is belgorod, western russia, near the border with ukraine. a lot of military hardware and activity. and different views on russia's offensive over the border. translation: the russia's offensive over the border. translation:— russia's offensive over the border. translation: , , , ., translation: the president explained it all, that translation: the president explained it all. that they — translation: the president explained it all, that they will _ translation: the president explained it all, that they will target _ it all, that they will target military objects only. of course it is unpleasant, but there was no other way out. is unpleasant, but there was no other way out-— is unpleasant, but there was no other wa out. . .. .. .. other way out. there is nothing good in it. other way out. there is nothing good in it- everyone _ other way out. there is nothing good in it. everyone has— other way out. there is nothing good in it. everyone has friends _ other way out. there is nothing good in it. everyone has friends and - in it. everyone has friends and relatives— in it. everyone has friends and
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relatives there. i can't find words to express — relatives there. i can't find words to express it. relatives there. i can't find words to express it— to express it. the longer the war continues. _ to express it. the longer the war continues, the _ to express it. the longer the war continues, the harder _ to express it. the longer the war continues, the harder it - to express it. the longer the war continues, the harder it will- to express it. the longer the war continues, the harder it will be l to express it. the longer the war| continues, the harder it will be to convince russians that our president took the right decision. —— their president. steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. we are going to talk to a former uk ambassador about the sanctions with president putin. bearing in mind he doesn't really have assets in his name in the uk, the us, the eu, and nor would he have any plans to travel to the us in the short term. it is also worth saying at this point in the morning lots of speculation and claim and counterclaim, we will try and make it really clear for you exactly what is happening. we have also heard overnight from the ukrainian president saying he will not down weapons. there have been a lot of reports he may left the city. he is absolutely clear he is still there. he issued a video this morning,
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identifying himself in front of buildings of our saying he will not put down weapons. he called citizens and residents to take up arms and defeat the invaders in his words. we will keep you right up—to—date with that. let's get the latest from moscow. our correspondent jenny hill is in moscow. a very good morning to you. jenny, as the fighting intensifies and russian casualties increase, how much support is vladimir putin getting at home? what is a picture where you are? it is difficult to quantify. as you know. — is difficult to quantify. as you know, there were protests the night before last, against the war, but of course _ before last, against the war, but of course here — before last, against the war, but of course here in moscow, here in russia. — course here in moscow, here in russia. if— course here in moscow, here in russia, if you turn on the television or look at the newspapers -et television or look at the newspapers get a _ television or look at the newspapers get a very— television or look at the newspapers get a very special kind of narrative about _ get a very special kind of narrative about what — get a very special kind of narrative about what is happening in ukraine, and the _ about what is happening in ukraine, and the defence ministry overnight has given— and the defence ministry overnight has given an update saying that it is used _ has given an update saying that it is used air— has given an update saying that it is used airand has given an update saying that it is used air and sea cruise missiles to target—
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is used air and sea cruise missiles to target military installations, military— to target military installations, military targets only in ukraine. they— military targets only in ukraine. they say— military targets only in ukraine. they say they have entered a southern _ they say they have entered a southern city, they say they entered the city _ southern city, they say they entered the city with no resistance. in fact. — the city with no resistance. in fact. the _ the city with no resistance. in fact, the defence ministry claim, elderly— fact, the defence ministry claim, elderly residents of that city waived — elderly residents of that city waived red flags to welcome the soldiers — waived red flags to welcome the soldiers as they lept in. what is also _ soldiers as they lept in. what is also striking is that we have heard no russian — also striking is that we have heard no russian casualty figures. at the beginning — no russian casualty figures. at the beginning of this invasion, and i suspect we are very unlikely to hear about— suspect we are very unlikely to hear about russian soldiers being killed from official sources. the kremlin of course — from official sources. the kremlin of course has sought to cast the invasion— of course has sought to cast the invasion of— of course has sought to cast the invasion of ukraine as a necessary attempt _ invasion of ukraine as a necessary attempt to. — invasion of ukraine as a necessary attempt to, in its words, de—nazify ukraine _ attempt to, in its words, de—nazify ukraine. you can see how strict the narrative _ ukraine. you can see how strict the narrative is — ukraine. you can see how strict the narrative is. one thing we can say with certainty of course is at least one of— with certainty of course is at least one of vladimir putin's aids in
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ukraine— one of vladimir putin's aids in ukraine is— one of vladimir putin's aids in ukraine is to affect regime change there _ ukraine is to affect regime change there. yesterday urged ukrainian soldiers — there. yesterday urged ukrainian soldiers to rise up. it was extraordinary what he said, to rise up extraordinary what he said, to rise up against — extraordinary what he said, to rise up against the government there, and to take _ up against the government there, and to take power into their own hands. and, _ to take power into their own hands. and. jenny. — to take power into their own hands. and. jenny. i— to take power into their own hands. and, jenny, i wonder how much boris johnson's speech has been seen there? we know overnight he issued an appeal to the russian people, he spokein an appeal to the russian people, he spoke in english, russian and ukrainian. i wonder if that has had any airtime? j ukrainian. i wonder if that has had any airtime?— any airtime? i haven't seen it on state television, _ any airtime? i haven't seen it on | state television, state-controlled state television, state—controlled television — state television, state—controlled television this morning. of course some _ television this morning. of course some of— television this morning. of course some of that market through on social— some of that market through on social media. one of interesting things— social media. one of interesting things happens is many of the people who have _ things happens is many of the people who have taken to the streets a coupte — who have taken to the streets a coupte of — who have taken to the streets a couple of nights ago where young russians — couple of nights ago where young russians. they look at social media platforms. — russians. they look at social media platforms, they get their news from different _ platforms, they get their news from different sources. a lot of the older— different sources. a lot of the older people, their parents, grandparents, that is a generalisation of course, but many are reliant — generalisation of course, but many are reliant on state—controlled media — are reliant on state—controlled media for— are reliant on state—controlled media for the information. it is a
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difficult — media for the information. it is a difficult situation. people here described to me the distress that causes _ described to me the distress that causes within families, younger generations and older generations accusing _ generations and older generations accusing one another of being brainwashed by either the west on moscow. _ brainwashed by either the west on moscow, depending on which side you are talking _ moscow, depending on which side you are talking about. it is an extremely difficult situation. i will extremely difficult situation. i wiii say— extremely difficult situation. i will say that we will look very carefully _ will say that we will look very carefully to see whether vladimir putin— carefully to see whether vladimir putin responds to any of the latest threats— putin responds to any of the latest threats and sanctions against him personally, and so far, the west sanctions — personally, and so far, the west sanctions have failed to deter him in his— sanctions have failed to deter him in his quest in ukraine. yes, sanctions have failed to deter him in his quest in ukraine.— sanctions have failed to deter him in his quest in ukraine. yes, i know ou will in his quest in ukraine. yes, i know you will keep _ in his quest in ukraine. yes, i know you will keep us — in his quest in ukraine. yes, i know you will keep us up-to-date. - in his quest in ukraine. yes, i know you will keep us up-to-date. it is i you will keep us up—to—date. it is good to talk to you. thank you very much, jenny, in moscow.— good to talk to you. thank you very much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in — much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in kyiv. _ much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in kyiv. feel— much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in kyiv. feel like _ much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in kyiv. feel like a - much, jenny, in moscow. doctorjames waterhouse in kyiv. feel like a city - waterhouse in kyiv. feel like a city thatis waterhouse in kyiv. feel like a city that is about to become as president zelensky put it, stormed by russian troops in the coming hours? it is troops in the coming hours? it is really hard _ troops in the coming hours? it is really hard to — troops in the coming hours? it is really hard to say, _ troops in the coming hours? it is really hard to say, victoria. it is 'ust really hard to say, victoria. it is
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just a _ really hard to say, victoria. it is just a really— really hard to say, victoria. it is just a really eerie feeling, this morning _ just a really eerie feeling, this morning i_ just a really eerie feeling, this morning. i say it again. it is a quiet — morning. i say it again. it is a quiet you _ morning. i say it again. it is a quiet you have ever seen the city, the city— quiet you have ever seen the city, the city that it isjust so normally alive _ the city that it isjust so normally alive and — the city that it isjust so normally alive and really happening place. there _ alive and really happening place. there is— alive and really happening place. there is no—one, no vehicle that i can see. — there is no—one, no vehicle that i can see. but _ there is no—one, no vehicle that i can see, but there has been another night _ can see, but there has been another night for— can see, but there has been another night for people here of regular rumblings of artillery fire, so many in the _ rumblings of artillery fire, so many in the city— rumblings of artillery fire, so many in the city have spent it on the ground — in the city have spent it on the ground in— in the city have spent it on the ground in metro stations, we were in an underground car park. we heard some _ an underground car park. we heard some automatic fire and the distance a coupte _ some automatic fire and the distance a coupte of— some automatic fire and the distance a couple of times this morning, but what this— a couple of times this morning, but what this picture tells us is that ukraine — what this picture tells us is that ukraine is— what this picture tells us is that ukraine is defending itself. there has been — ukraine is defending itself. there has been heavy fighting to the west of the _ has been heavy fighting to the west of the city. — has been heavy fighting to the west of the city, the city has shared an image _ of the city, the city has shared an image along with emergency services of a tail— image along with emergency services of a tall tower block that has been hit by— of a tall tower block that has been hit by a _ of a tall tower block that has been hit by a missile near the international airport, which is quite — international airport, which is quite a — international airport, which is quite a central location, and that serves— quite a central location, and that serves as — quite a central location, and that serves as a — quite a central location, and that serves as a reminder that this is
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what _ serves as a reminder that this is what a _ serves as a reminder that this is what a conflict looks like. despite claims _ what a conflict looks like. despite claims from president putin that this is— claims from president putin that this is about targeting military and strategic— this is about targeting military and strategic sites, in his mind, you can't _ strategic sites, in his mind, you can't rule — strategic sites, in his mind, you can't rule out ordinary people being affected _ can't rule out ordinary people being affected and losing loved ones, being _ affected and losing loved ones, being killed, it is a grim reality. the broader picture seems to be that ukraine _ the broader picture seems to be that ukraine is— the broader picture seems to be that ukraine is holding key cities and conceding — ukraine is holding key cities and conceding very deliberately more rural territories against this sizeabie _ rural territories against this sizeable russian advance. the russian — sizeable russian advance. the russian bosses have said they have taken _ russian bosses have said they have taken a _ russian bosses have said they have taken a key— russian bosses have said they have taken a key city to the south—east, they say. _ taken a key city to the south—east, they say, with little defence after they say, with little defence after they mounted an amphibious assault of troops _ they mounted an amphibious assault of troops coming from c to shore. there _ of troops coming from c to shore. there is— of troops coming from c to shore. there is also _ of troops coming from c to shore. there is also fighting in mariupol, close _ there is also fighting in mariupol, close by. — there is also fighting in mariupol, close by, but for now, ukraine is holding — close by, but for now, ukraine is holding firm, the country's president has posted another video urging _ president has posted another video urging ukrainians to fight, and whether— urging ukrainians to fight, and whether they are professional soldiers — whether they are professional soldiers orjust citizens, they seem
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to be _ soldiers orjust citizens, they seem to be heeding that message. all those to be heeding that message. jill those people who are essentially living underground at the moment in basements, cellars, in the metro for safety, and they emerge, i mean, there city could be overrun with russian troops. they have no idea what will happen. when they leave those underground shelters. exactly, and we saw images _ those underground shelters. exactly, and we saw images yesterday - those underground shelters. exactly, and we saw images yesterday mid i those underground shelters. exactly, and we saw images yesterday mid of| and we saw images yesterday mid of armoured _ and we saw images yesterday mid of armoured russian convoys tearing into the _ armoured russian convoys tearing into the city, we have seen footage of residents, elderly residents, one woman— of residents, elderly residents, one woman confronted a russian soldier, speaking _ woman confronted a russian soldier, speaking the same language as her, most ukrainian speak russian as well, _ most ukrainian speak russian as well, some use it as their first choice — well, some use it as their first choice dialects. he said, what are you doing — choice dialects. he said, what are you doing here? you are occupying my country _ you doing here? you are occupying my country. what we have started to see is how _ country. what we have started to see is how quickly this can change, where — is how quickly this can change, where yesterday we saw ukrainian people. _ where yesterday we saw ukrainian people, personnel in military uniform. _ people, personnel in military uniform, police officers outside ministerial buildings, ukrainian
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armoured — ministerial buildings, ukrainian armoured vehicles going. we have to be realistic — armoured vehicles going. we have to be realistic. ukraine in a military sense _ be realistic. ukraine in a military sense is— be realistic. ukraine in a military sense is very much the underdog. it is putting _ sense is very much the underdog. it is putting up— sense is very much the underdog. it is putting up some fierce resistance, this is a city taken damage _ resistance, this is a city taken damage. it is a city on its knees because — damage. it is a city on its knees because of— damage. it is a city on its knees because of this onslaught that has been _ because of this onslaught that has been created by sizeable russian force. _ been created by sizeable russian force, sizeable russian forces, on paper _ force, sizeable russian forces, on paper. there is fierce fighting an incredible — paper. there is fierce fighting an incredible bravery being shown as ukrainians— incredible bravery being shown as ukrainians take up arms, at the defence — ukrainians take up arms, at the defence office, they show a bit of id, citizens, and they get a bit of yellow— id, citizens, and they get a bit of yellow tape, issued with a weapon and out _ yellow tape, issued with a weapon and out they go. they have often said four — and out they go. they have often said four weeks leading up to this they tell you, i will fight. for some. — they tell you, i will fight. for some, that means staying put in their— some, that means staying put in their home, in their home country, in defiance — their home, in their home country, in defiance of their much bigger powerful— in defiance of their much bigger powerful neighbour trying to make a point. for others it literally is going — point. for others it literally is going out— point. for others it literally is going out and fighting and risking their lives, and it is quite tough
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to say — their lives, and it is quite tough to sa . ., ~ their lives, and it is quite tough tosa. . , . , to say. thank you very much, james. james waterhouse _ to say. thank you very much, james. james waterhouse in _ to say. thank you very much, james. james waterhouse in here. _ sir tony brenton is a former uk ambassador to moscow. thank you for talking to us. it appears, according to president zelensky, that we are on the verge of seeing a european capital city being taken by an invading force. how do you feel about that? yes. being taken by an invading force. how do you feel about that? yes, it is obviously — how do you feel about that? yes, it is obviously very — how do you feel about that? yes, it| is obviously very bad news. this war is obviously very bad news. this war is indefensible, and the russians seem to have made reasonably fast progress and i suspect not as fast as i hoped for. i suspect also however that they will not want to launch a street street assault on central kyiv and they are rather hoping that either there is a surrender offer, i might mention something else in a minute, or zelenskyy wines away of moving out. it will be interesting to see. they don't want to be responsible for
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flattening the centre of kyiv if they can avoid it. h flattening the centre of kyiv if they can avoid it.— flattening the centre of kyiv if they can avoid it. if they do take over kyiv. _ they can avoid it. if they do take over kyiv, then _ they can avoid it. if they do take over kyiv, then what? _ they can avoid it. if they do take over kyiv, then what? what - they can avoid it. if they do take over kyiv, then what? what do i they can avoid it. if they do take i over kyiv, then what? what do you think president putin's grand ambition is? it think president putin's grand ambition is?— think president putin's grand ambition is? it is very hard to tell, ambition is? it is very hard to tell. and _ ambition is? it is very hard to tell, and increasingly - ambition is? it is very hard to tell, and increasingly hard i ambition is? it is very hard to tell, and increasingly hard to | ambition is? it is very hard to i tell, and increasingly hard to tell if britain is behaving rationally. very emotionally and several times, the emotional reaction, the various messages yesterday suggest he is driven by anger and determined to occupy all of ukraine to displace the zelenskyy regime and replace it with something much friendlier to russia. that is a very big agenda. i suspect you can win the war, although i suspect it is going rather more slowly than they anticipated, but winning the pieces going to be much harder, setting up an acceptable puppet regime in a country of 44 million people, most of whom are deeply opposed of what the russians want them to do, is and is ordinarily difficult thing to do,
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and would lead us then into domestic insurgencies, could lead russia back to the quagmire was they found themselves in in afghanistan a0 years ago. which brought about, helps to bring about the end of communism in russia which they remember with horror, and if things move in that direction, then putin has real reasons to fear the reaction amongst his own population. would that be the key to this actually? the key to stopping president putin might be the pressure from russian citizens? j pressure from russian citizens? i don't think that is going to become apparent very early. there is a russian tradition of backing their leaders in international crises, they backed alexander the first against napoleon, they backed stalin for goodness sake against hitler, i am not making any comparisons but i think putin can be reasonably comfortable in at least the acquiescence of his people until the things begin to go wrong. if things
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go wrong then that acquiescence could rapidly evaporate and indeed support his immediate elite which looks pretty shaky if you watch the television recording of his meeting of his security council a few days ago. already looks pretty shaky, could again evaporate and he would find himself in serious trouble. abs, find himself in serious trouble. a moment ago you talk about, you used the word is a surrender offer. what does that mean? do you think that is plausible? does that mean? do you think that is lausible? ~ . . , ., does that mean? do you think that is lausible? ~ . . , . , plausible? ukrainians have been in touch with the _ plausible? ukrainians have been in touch with the russians, _ plausible? ukrainians have been in touch with the russians, they - plausible? ukrainians have been in touch with the russians, they have suggested talks on the basis of ukraine becoming neutral, and that ostensibly was the original course of the war, so if you are dealing with a rational putin, than the russians would be interested in those talks and they have responded and i think the true size and are looking for somewhere to meet. that is a very encouraging sign if they can agree that ukraine will become neutral and therefore invasion will end or at least stop, and that is a
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big stop towards getting things back to normal, because things are profoundly over the last three days. getting the guns to go silent and fast all to look at clearing up this mess. ., , fast all to look at clearing up this mess. . , . ,~ fast all to look at clearing up this mess. . , . a i. fast all to look at clearing up this mess. . , . a , ., . mess. finally, let me ask you, what is the point — mess. finally, let me ask you, what is the point of— mess. finally, let me ask you, what is the point of personal— mess. finally, let me ask you, what is the point of personal sanctions i is the point of personal sanctions against president putin? as we have seen imposed by the uk, the us, the eu, freezing assets around the world, his assets around the world, and stopping him travelling to the united states?— united states? yes, this is very symbolic- _ united states? yes, this is very symbolic- it _ united states? yes, this is very symbolic. it is _ united states? yes, this is very symbolic. it is a _ united states? yes, this is very symbolic. it is a powerful- united states? yes, this is very i symbolic. it is a powerful symbol, it is very, very rare for heads of state to be sanctioned, kind of the ultimate statement of detestation... you think people of ukraine need symbolism right now? hie. you think people of ukraine need symbolism right now?— you think people of ukraine need symbolism right now? no, i was going to to and symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and — symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and say. _ symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and say, first _ symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and say, first of _ symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and say, first of all, - symbolism right now? no, i was going to go and and say, first of all, it - to go and and say, first of all, it is powerful, but in practical terms, this deeply ineffective sanction, he
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has no intention of travelling to the west, and i suspect he has no assets there either, in practical terms it is zero, and the same is true unfortunately of all the other sanctions. the fact is that, yes, over time, they will have an economic effect on russia, but over the timeframe of this invasion and whatever political outcome it produces, there is an irrelevance from the russian point of view. thank you for talking to us. pleasure. we have a full round—up of all you need to know with the latest of elements coming up in a moment, but that's on what the weather is doing this this morning. good morning, susan. good morning. it is behaving quite nicely this weekend after the three storms in quick succession. high pressure extending across from western europe, which will bring sunshine for many of this weekend. the images behind me was from weather watch at jackie clover in norfolk, where there is frost on the
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glass —— grass after the clear skies overnight. it has turned pretty cold in central and eastern areas of the uk. lots of sunshine to come here through the day. to the north—west, this weather front trying to squeeze in, already pushing more cloud into scotland and northern ireland. right orsunny scotland and northern ireland. right or sunny spells probably best describes the conditions here through the day. —— bright. a bit of cloud coming and going across northern england. eastern scotland could see a lot of sunshine this afternoon, especially around the moray firth, and temperatures up to 12, similar moray firth, and temperatures up to 12,similarto moray firth, and temperatures up to 12, similar to those in england and wales. the breeze lifting all the while across the weekend, as this weather front tries to squeeze into that area of high pressure. overnight, still light across england and wales with clear skies, which will see many areas getting temperatures down to freezing or slightly below. these other temperatures in the towns and cities, little warmer than stop milderfor cities, little warmer than stop milder for western scotland and northern ireland underneath the cover of cloud. sunday, again, for many it will be much like today,
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fine with lots of sunshine. a bit breezy perhaps across england and wales. we will see a little more rain across western scotland, but maybe if anything more in the way of sunshine further east. a bit cooler across the board on sunday. monday is, what shall i say, forecasting headache for the next few days. this weather system coming in is not straightforward. you can see it goes blue triangle, red circle. that means the front is developing a wave, which can mean putting down the timing of where it drops rain and weather heaviest rain goes is bit more complicated. i think we can best summed it up that england and wales will see rain through monday. at the moment it is favouring the rain towards the west, through the course of the day, and then shifting east through the evening and overnight. that could be subject to some change. the same goes for when we see this front trying to pull away on tuesday. just the chance it could hang back a bit further into the south—east of england through the south—east of england through the day on tuesday. but actually, for tuesday, the day on tuesday. but actually, fortuesday, high the day on tuesday. but actually, for tuesday, high pressure will come to dominate the weather for much of the uk once again. they will be a
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lot of sunshine, temperatures nine or ten, just that chance of some wetter weather sticking around towards the far south—east. as ever, we will keep you posted. hate towards the far south-east. as ever, we will keep you posted.— we will keep you posted. we look forward to it. _ we will keep you posted. we look forward to it. for _ we will keep you posted. we look forward to it. for now, _ we will keep you posted. we look forward to it. for now, thank- we will keep you posted. we look| forward to it. for now, thank you. let's get the latest updates on the crisis in ukraine. we're joined in the studio by our correspondentjonah fisher. we have seen more images of disruption? yes, in the last hour or so, this picture behind me, that is an apartment block right in the central part of kyiv, not far from the second airport. it has clearly been struck with something, there is social media footage that we are trying to verify at the moment which shows it being struck with a rocket, clearly you can see a residential area which has been targeted or at least hit this morning. let's have a quick recap of where we are. this is the third day since russia invaded ukraine. in fact, that is volodymyr
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zelensky, the ukrainian president, i wasn't expecting him to show up but he has been out and about on the streets of kyiv this morning trying to demonstrate to everybody he is still very much present in kyiv, but he has not fled. in this address, he was saying that it is fake news, that there were plans to evacuate or put down their weapons. "our weapons are our truth", is what he said in this post on social media. let's have a quick look back, here is the map. kyiv has seen a lot of the pretty intense fighting in some of its areas overnight. yesterday evening, a power station on what we cold the left bank, the left bank of the nippo river was targeted, we believe unsuccessfully. —— dnieper river. electricity still seems to be working in most of the capital. there was intense fighting in the southern reaches of kyiv here, one theme of the early part of this
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conflict has been russia's attempts to try to secure an airstrip, somewhere that it can bring in its forces with planes. there has been fighting around vasilkyiv, we believe there is an airstrip there, and ukrainian shea they have shut down a couple of planes, two ilyushin 76 planes. those could potentially be carrying 150 troops, if it turns out to be true and we could verify that, to be a significant number of casualties on the russian side. you might remember this road, this is peromogy avenue which leads out of the centre of kyiv to the west, and the immediate aftermath of the russian invasion, it was absolutely full of cars, as you can see, trafficjams all the way out. overnight have been clashes, you can see the explosions here. this is probably 5—10 kilometres outside the central part
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of kyiv, not far from kyiv zoo, clashes between what we believe a relatively small groups of russian saboteurs, advance parties from the russian side clashing with ukrainian forces. we believe the ukrainians have successfully dealt with that. you get a sense, from that and the various things going on, kyiv is very much a city under attack from all sides today. 3 million people live there, they are being attacked from the air and on the ground. jonah, as you said, those pictures, especially about destruction in parts of kyiv, coming in in the last hour, how difficult is it to work out exactly what is happening on the ground? there is claim and counterclaim, isn't there? i suppose what you have to do is make sure we know what is what.— know what is what. exactly, from here one cannot _ know what is what. exactly, from here one cannot be _ know what is what. exactly, from here one cannot be entirely - know what is what. exactly, from j here one cannot be entirely sure. all we know is that building has been struck and there is footage we hope to bring to people later which seems to show a missile striking what looks like these buildings. but
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i am sure that they will be journalists heading there on the ground and people looking on the ground, because usually in these situations there is debris, they may even be able to find parts of whatever rocket or missile looks like it's struck that building. we will probably find out in the next few hours. j will probably find out in the next few hours-— will probably find out in the next few hours. ~ ., ~ , , few hours. i know you will keep us u dated. few hours. i know you will keep us updated- for— few hours. i know you will keep us updated. for now, _ few hours. i know you will keep us updated. for now, jonah, - few hours. i know you will keep us updated. for now, jonah, thanki few hours. i know you will keep us i updated. for now, jonah, thank you. without putting troops into ukraine, one of the hardest ways for the west to hit russia would be to ban it from the swift payment network. the uk has already called for that to happen but so far failed to get the agreement of other countries, including germany. here's our business correspondent katie prescott to explain why the swift system is so important. swift ca n swift can be described as an artery of global finance. swift can be described as an artery of globalfinance. it swift can be described as an artery of global finance. it allows the smooth and quick transfer of money across borders. it stands for the society of worldwide interbank financial telecommunication, and it is co— owned by more than 2000 financial institutions around the world. created in 1973, it links
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11,000 banks in more than 200 countries. it sounds more than a0 million messages a day. over 1% of those i thought to involve russian payments. those i thought to involve russian -a ments. . ., ,, those i thought to involve russian -a ments. ,, ., ,, ,, . those i thought to involve russian -a ments. ,, ,, . , payments. stopping russia using the swift system — payments. stopping russia using the swift system from _ payments. stopping russia using the swift system from financial _ swift system from financial transactions could have painful consequences for both sides. you could make life very difficult for russian banks and for businesses who are trying to get paid for their goods stop but that of course works both ways. 50 goods stop but that of course works both wa s. .. goods stop but that of course works both wa s. ., . , both ways. so for example, the western companies _ both ways. so for example, the western companies trying - both ways. so for example, the western companies trying to i both ways. so for example, the | western companies trying to buy russian oil and gas, they could find it very disruptive. you russian oil and gas, they could find it very disruptive.— russian oil and gas, they could find it very disruptive. you have germany which is very — it very disruptive. you have germany which is very dependent _ it very disruptive. you have germany which is very dependent on - it very disruptive. you have germany which is very dependent on russian i which is very dependent on russian gas, you've also got italy, very dependent, but you have france for example which has nuclear and is dependent a lot less on russian gas, and the same with the uk. so there is a bit of a split in terms of whether one really wants to stop that flow from taking place, and obviously if you get the russians out of swift, than that flow stops, because they won't get paid, and
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thatis because they won't get paid, and that is a big, big issue which i don't think the europeans are quite ready to move to. so don't think the europeans are quite ready to move to.— ready to move to. so many world leaders, ready to move to. so many world leaders. like _ ready to move to. so many world leaders, like us— ready to move to. so many world leaders, like us presidents - ready to move to. so many world leaders, like us presidents joe i leaders, like us presidentsjoe biden, say that preferences for sanctions because of the other countries propose economies of banning russia from swift. katie prescott, bbc news. as we have been —— reporting this morning, president putin and his foreign minister sergei lavrov have been targeted by personal sanctions overnight. their assets in the eu, us, uk and canada be frozen, and in the case of the us, a travel ban will be imposed on both of them. labour's stephen kinnock has been one of those calling for tougher sanctions. he joins us now from port talbot. good morning. let's begin with sanctions, lots of concern and lots of criticism they do very little, they were not enough to stop president putin. do you agree? weill. president putin. do you agree? well, sanctions always _ president putin. do you agree? well, sanctions always take _
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president putin. do you agree? well, sanctions always take time _ president putin. do you agree? well, sanctions always take time to - president putin. do you agree? h sanctions always take time to bite. there is always more that we can and should do. i think every effort should do. i think every effort should be made to expel russia from the swift system, that has just been mentioned, and fundamentally, we need those countries in europe that are more reliant on russian oil and gas than we are to really find ways of weaning themselves off it, find alternative suppliers, and really start to cut off their oil and gas imports from russia. that is where we will really start to hurt the russian economy which is massively over reliant on russian oil and gas, doesn't really have anything else to offer. there is much more that can and should be done. it is of course frustrating in many ways, because sanctions take time, but we are seeing tremendous resistance by the braid ukrainian forces and i think mr putin is realising that if he thinks he can occupy ukraine, he will have a population that gives his consent to that, he has got another thing coming. you his consent to that, he has got another thing coming. you have set
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sanctions take _ another thing coming. you have set sanctions take time. _ another thing coming. you have set sanctions take time. if _ another thing coming. you have set sanctions take time. if what - another thing coming. you have set sanctions take time. if what we - another thing coming. you have set| sanctions take time. if what we have seen from kyiv overnight is anything to go by, ukrainians do not have time. looking for alternative sources of energy is a long—term solution. it will not help ukrainians in the short term. well, we can do more — ukrainians in the short term. well, we can do more to _ ukrainians in the short term. well, we can do more to sanction - ukrainians in the short term. well, we can do more to sanction more i ukrainians in the short term. h we can do more to sanction more for people that are around vladimir putin, more of the cronies, of the oligarchs, it is absolutely right now to see these sporting events and other events being taken away from russia. let's not forget that in the end, that is what brought down the apartheid regime in south africa, the sanctions were important in terms of the economy, but it was a sense of isolation that the people felt. i lived and worked in russia for three years, in saint petersburg, and the people there, they want to be part of the international community. they don't want to be a pariah state. i don't want to be a pariah state. i don't want to be isolated. they want to engage with the rest of the world. so we have to keep ratcheting up the
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pressure on mr putin and we have to do more to support the ukrainian armed forces. every request for alms that they make, we should meet it, nato should be putting every single piece of defensive weaponry that it can into ukraine, and we've got to be ready to be in this for the long haul. it will be a long insurgency against russia if it does seek to occupy ukraine, and in the end, russia will lose that insurgency, mr putin has made a tremendous and terrible and deeply damaging strategic miscalculation here. he cannot win in this situation. the international community has to stand firm against him. j international community has to stand firm against him.— firm against him. i want to talk about some — firm against him. i want to talk about some of _ firm against him. i want to talk about some of the _ firm against him. i want to talk| about some of the humanitarian applications is —— in a moment, but theissue applications is —— in a moment, but the issue of sanctions is important, and i want to talk about why it seems there is reluctance to impose tougher sanctions, particularly about the swift international payment system. that is because many
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of the countries who might be imposing those tougher sanctions would actually be harmed by them. i'm thinking particularly of germany, because it trades oil and gas with russia, as if set, and it relies on the payment system to be able to get access to energy. the truth is that if we impose tougher sanctions, we all in europe would pay the price. sanctions, we all in europe would pay the price-— pay the price. well, what i would centl pay the price. well, what i would gently say _ pay the price. well, what i would gently say to _ pay the price. well, what i would gently say to our— pay the price. well, what i would gently say to our friends - pay the price. well, what i would gently say to our friends and - gently say to our friends and partners in europe, who rely more on russian gas and oil than we do, is that they may well feel they are harmed by this action on swift that is required. but they would be far more harmed if we allowed a reckless tyrant, as mr putin is, to run his writ across europe. that cannot be allowed to happen. so it is time to put our national security and our values, as europe, ahead of some of these considerations. that will be
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tough. it will be up to political leaders across europe to make the case clearly to the people that they will be some costs, but this is democracy that we are fighting for. this is our values and ourfreedoms, to stand up against the deeply corrupt regime that is doing what it is doing because it is frightened of democracy. mr putin isn't doing this because of nato or any ground geopolitical calculations. he is doing this because he is terrified of having a successful, prosperous, vibrant democracy on his doorstep. he has seen what has happened in belarus, he has seen what has happened in kazakhstan, and he is frightened about stop that is why he is doing what he is doing. we cannot allow his intimidation and bullying to win, and of course sometimes you have to pay a price, but it is a price worth paying.— have to pay a price, but it is a price worth paying. let's talk about the human cost _ price worth paying. let's talk about the human cost of— price worth paying. let's talk about the human cost of this _ price worth paying. let's talk about the human cost of this tragedy - the human cost of this tragedy already. what help should the uk be offering in terms of humanitarian assistance?
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many people are fleeing ukraine in order to remain on the bordering countries, poland, slovakia, romania, etc. have to sit down with the governments of all those countries and ask what humanitarian assistance they require. i hope that our government is already reaching out to those governments and working out to those governments and working out what they need so that we made sure we are co—ordinating, providing all the humanitarian assistance that we possibly can so that when people arrive on the borders, they are taken in and they are supported. i have seen the extremely generous offer that poland has made, for example, just saying our borders are open to the ukrainian people, please come and we will support you, we will be a safe haven. they are leading by example, and i really hope that our government will follow and offer to those bordering governments whatever assistance they require. stand governments whatever assistance they re . uire. �* . governments whatever assistance they reauire. . , . . , require. and there is quite clearly an issue on _ require. and there is quite clearly an issue on those _ require. and there is quite clearly an issue on those borders, - require. and there is quite clearly
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an issue on those borders, but i i an issue on those borders, but i wonder about the uk, and briefly if you would, uk government not yet set out any formal plan to welcome ukrainian refugees. when should that happen? j ukrainian refugees. when should that ha--en? ~ ukrainian refugees. when should that ha en? ~ ., ukrainian refugees. when should that ha . en? ~ ., .. ukrainian refugees. when should that ha--en? ~ ., . . happen? i think we need to do far more to offer— happen? i think we need to do far more to offer ukrainians - happen? i think we need to do far more to offer ukrainians who - happen? i think we need to do far more to offer ukrainians who are | happen? i think we need to do far. more to offer ukrainians who are in our country already much faster routes for family reunification for those are in ukraine can be unified very quickly with their families, and i think we need to really sit down and understand the needs, be talking to those bordering countries. my understanding is the vast majority of ukrainians have absolutely every intention of going back into the country as soon as russia has been defeated, so i think the priority has to be on supporting those bordering countries, but that is where the vast majority of pressure is going to come from in terms of movements of people. let's get that priority sorted out, then we can see where we are and what needs to be done in terms of
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follow—up and where the uk can support in a pragmatic and useful way, co—ordinating that international partners and allies. it is good to have your thoughts this morning, shadow immigration minister, thank you. and we will talk to the armed forces minister at around 8:30am. it's time now for this week's newswatch. hello and welcome to news watch. russia attacks ukraine, but something viewers ask if the bbc with a first slow to respond and then sent to manyjournalists. why did the bbc�*s ben reported into storms to tell the viewers not to go out into storms? this where there has been a theme to your comments. many wrote in about the way the bbc deploys its correspondence and grooves. russia movies you'd attack
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on ukraine, another asked why bbc felt it was necessary to send a presenter to care in addition to the journalists who were already there. today at six o'clock here in ukraine, the government prepares to impose a state of emergency stop war looms and tells of citizens in russia to leave.— russia to leave. absolutely exceptional _ russia to leave. absolutely exceptional times. .. - russia to leave. absolutely exceptional times. .. chris | exceptional times. .. chris e-mailed... _ phil told us... brian lawrence was concerned about the cost.
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michael agreed. and he predicted... not so, i am pleased to say. i am joined by richard burgess. let's start with why send presenters from london and there are local experts on the ground. j london and there are local experts on the ground-— on the ground. i would say that clive is far _ on the ground. i would say that clive is far from _ on the ground. i would say that clive is far from just _ on the ground. i would say that clive is far from just a - on the ground. i would say that i clive is far from just a presenter, he is an outstanding journalist and he is an outstanding journalist and he hasn'tjust been presenting when he hasn'tjust been presenting when he hasn'tjust been presenting when he has been out there. he has also been getting out into care of, speaking to local residents, understanding the story, providing reports. i think having a presenter there adds to the texture of our broadcasting and ensures clive is really understanding story and able to the right actions and convey to the audience what it is like they're in the heart of this really
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important story.- in the heart of this really imortant sto . ., . ,, ., important story. you are knowing news watch _ important story. you are knowing news watch there _ important story. you are knowing news watch there was _ important story. you are knowing news watch there was complain l important story. you are knowing i news watch there was complain and have deployment of correspondence, so how do you calculate how many staff to send, and is ever going to be a time when you reconsider sending a presenter? j be a time when you reconsider sending a presenter?— be a time when you reconsider sending a presenter? i think we do sends ou sending a presenter? i think we do sends you a _ sending a presenter? i think we do sends you a presenter _ sending a presenter? i think we do sends you a presenter is _ sending a presenter? i think we do sends you a presenter is now- sending a presenter? i think we do sends you a presenter is now into i sends you a presenter is now into the field, and we are very careful about it. i think it depends on the story, it depends on the level of interest. this is an extraordinary story that is developing at a really fast pace over kind of 2a hours. we know there is a great deal of interest for the audience, and by having a presenter there, we feel it at to their understanding, the audience's understanding of the story. audience's understanding of the sto . ~ ., audience's understanding of the sto .~ . . audience's understanding of the sto .~ . audience's understanding of the sto . . ., story. what about the risks? how does the bbc _ story. what about the risks? how does the bbc address _ story. what about the risks? how does the bbc address that - story. what about the risks? how does the bbc address that in this| does the bbc address that in this deployment, which has happened very quickly. deployment, which has happened very cuickl . . deployment, which has happened very cuickl . , ., , quickly. yes, we do sometimes delo ed quickly. yes, we do sometimes deployed to — quickly. yes, we do sometimes deployed to hostile _
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quickly. yes, we do sometimes i deployed to hostile environments, quickly. yes, we do sometimes - deployed to hostile environments, we think it is important to cover the story and see in their own eyes what is happening on the ground. there are a number of things we do. number one, all our staff to go there are very experienced and have undergone hostile environment training, we carry out regular dynamic risk assessments all the time, assessing the risks, assessing where we should be and what precautionary measures we should try, and we support in kyiv in a team of advisers, safety advisors, safety advisors back in london who assess the situation and oversee the situation so we taken very seriously. oversee the situation so we taken very seriously-— very seriously. one of the few comments — very seriously. one of the few comments says _ very seriously. one of the few comments says the _ very seriously. one of the few comments says the bbc - very seriously. one of the few comments says the bbc is - very seriously. one of the few. comments says the bbc is under very seriously. one of the few- comments says the bbc is under a lot of financial pressure. our budgets are cut. this deployment must be very expensive. again, we need to go back to if it is a good license use of your money. we back to if it is a good license use of your money-— back to if it is a good license use of your money. we take that into account. of your money. we take that into account- we _ of your money. we take that into account. we regularly _ of your money. we take that into account. we regularly set - of your money. we take that into account. we regularly set the - of your money. we take that into i account. we regularly set the scale of our deployment. i think it is
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particularly important in this story because in war, and in modern day war, there is a lot of propaganda, a lot of disinformation on social media, it also on state broadcasts. we need to have our very variance, our very bestjournalist we need to have our very variance, our very best journalist there we need to have our very variance, our very bestjournalist there on the ground messing with our own eyes and reporting what is going on. i think it is vitally important, and important that we hear from the people of ukraine and the people of russia. i have been really proud of what what our teams have done in the coverage. what what our teams have done in the coveraue. . ._ what what our teams have done in the coveraue. . ., , what what our teams have done in the coveraue. ,, , , , coverage. stay with us because while ou are coverage. stay with us because while you are here — coverage. stay with us because while you are here i— coverage. stay with us because while you are here i should _ coverage. stay with us because while you are here i should report- coverage. stay with us because while you are here i should report some i you are here i should report some viewers have also written into safe we have underplayed developments in the ukraine this week. on monday night president putin announced he was recognising two breakaway regions of ukraine and would be sending in troops, but the news at ten did not lead on it. tonight at ten o'clock, all covid restrictions in england will end in three days time despite the concerns of some experts. change... the three days time despite the concerns of some experts. change. . ._ of some experts. change... the end of some experts. change... the end
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of covid restrictions _ of some experts. change... the end of covid restrictions was _ of some experts. change... the end of covid restrictions was clearly - of covid restrictions was clearly important, but widely anticipated. some viewers were annoyed ukraine was so far down the bulletin. alexander wrote in... so, did the ten have its priorities wrong? fish so, did the ten have its priorities wron: ? �* . so, did the ten have its priorities wronu? �* . , ., . wrong? an individual programme editor makes _ wrong? an individual programme editor makes decisions _ wrong? an individual programme editor makes decisions about - wrong? an individual programme editor makes decisions about the j editor makes decisions about the programme, and there can be a debate about what you should lead with. i think it was a significant story around covid on that day, but no question, ukraine has been the story of this week and i don't think anybody would look at our coverage as a whole and not say that we have committed to the coverage of that story and delivered expertise, analysis and on the ground reporting, that i think has been of outstanding quality.— outstanding quality. thank you, richard. ukraine _
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outstanding quality. thank you, richard. ukraine was _ outstanding quality. thank you, richard. ukraine was of - outstanding quality. thank you, richard. ukraine was of course | outstanding quality. thank you, i richard. ukraine was of course one of the main topics of discussion. sophie interviewed the prime ministerfor sophie interviewed the prime minister for last weekend's sunday morning programme. what he spent ten minutes of the interview trying to get an answer from him on another subject. hf get an answer from him on another sub'ect. ,., . . , ., subject. if the police find that you have broken _ subject. if the police find that you have broken the _ subject. if the police find that you have broken the law, _ subject. if the police find that you have broken the law, broken - subject. if the police find that you - have broken the law, broken your own laws that you wrote, will you resign? laws that you wrote, will you resi . n? .. laws that you wrote, will you resin? ., . ,, , . ., resign? i... to make sure that as i have something _ resign? i. .. to make sure that as i have something meaningful- resign? i... to make sure that as i have something meaningful to - resign? i... to make sure that as i have something meaningful to sayj have something meaningful to say about— have something meaningful to say about this, which will be at the end of the _ about this, which will be at the end of the process, i will make sure i do. of the process, i will make sure i do if— of the process, i will make sure i do. , .. . ., of the process, i will make sure i do. . ., ., . do. if you are found to have broken our own do. if you are found to have broken your own rules... _ do. if you are found to have broken your own rules... will _ do. if you are found to have broken your own rules... will you - do. if you are found to have broken your own rules... will you stay - do. if you are found to have broken your own rules... will you stay in i your own rules... will you stay in your own rules... will you stay in yourjob? j your own rules. .. will you stay in yourjob?— your own rules... will you stay in our 'ob? , . , ., your 'ob? i understand the question, but yourjob? i understand the question, but any answer _ yourjob? i understand the question, but any answer would _ yourjob? i understand the question, but any answer would be interpreted | but any answer would be interpreted as am _ but any answer would be interpreted as am a_ but any answer would be interpreted as a... a point of commentary about the process — as a... a point of commentary about the process-— the process. margaret adams and 'oined the the process. margaret adams and joined the encounter. _ the process. margaret adams and joined the encounter. what - the process. margaret adams and joined the encounter. what i - the process. margaret adams and | joined the encounter. what i really interview conducted _ joined the encounter. what i really interview conducted on _ joined the encounter. what i really interview conducted on sunday - interview conducted on sunday morning. but that persistent lessening infuriated viewers like cheryl.
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graham g ra ha m stagette graham stagette jones graham stagettejones was graham stagette jones was full of praise for the interview. —— spickett—jones. this week brought the news that the queen had caught covid. there was a lot of interest in how she was doing, but as is often the case with royal health stories, details within on the ground. stories, details within on the round. ,., ., stories, details within on the round. . �* . ground. good afternoon. buckingham palace has announced _ ground. good afternoon. buckingham palace has announced that _ ground. good afternoon. buckingham palace has announced that the - ground. good afternoon. buckinghaml palace has announced that the queen, who is 95, has tested positive for covid—19. in a statement, she was said to be experience mild cold like symptoms but expecting to continue with light duty at windsor castle. in a statement, buckingham palace saidm _
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she expects, as a palace has said, to continue with light duties, paperwork and virtual audiences. flan paperwork and virtual audiences. can e—mailed, making this point... there then i really don't understand how so much time was given as at the same thing about the queen three times. the past week has seen three big storms. dudley, eunice and franklin. that is the most in a single week since storm naomi was introduced seven years ago. everything you sent teams to cover some of the worst affected areas. here wasjenny reporting from st ives in cornwall. there is concern about potential damage to robert dear, flying
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debris, we have seen a number of trees come down in cornwall already, so, yes, this is expected to be quite significant. people are being urged to take precautions. yesterday, businesses were... dramatic coverage certainly prompting a familiar news watch complaint. many viewers told up doubted whether crews out onto the seafront was a sensible thing to do. why does bbc news insist on sending reporters out in gail's, they can barely stand up in front of the seafront. , , , . , ., seafront. despite warnings from the met office of— seafront. despite warnings from the met office of danger _ seafront. despite warnings from the met office of danger to _ seafront. despite warnings from the met office of danger to life, - seafront. despite warnings from the met office of danger to life, we - met office of danger to life, we next _ met office of danger to life, we next saw — met office of danger to life, we next saw a reporter from the bbc barely— next saw a reporter from the bbc barely able to stand up on the promenade. i thought what part of danger— promenade. i thought what part of danger to— promenade. i thought what part of danger to life to the bbc produces not understand? the danger to life to the bbc produces not understand?— not understand? the bbc are currently giving _ not understand? the bbc are currently giving huge - not understand? the bbc arej
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currently giving huge courage not understand? the bbc are i currently giving huge courage to not understand? the bbc are - currently giving huge courage to the weather _ currently giving huge courage to the weather warning _ currently giving huge courage to the weather warning telling _ currently giving huge courage to the weather warning telling everyone i currently giving huge courage to the weather warning telling everyone toj weather warning telling everyone to stay indoors — weather warning telling everyone to stay indoors. while _ weather warning telling everyone to stay indoors. while watching - weather warning telling everyone to stay indoors. while watching live i stay indoors. while watching live interviews — stay indoors. while watching live interviews of _ stay indoors. while watching live interviews of correspondence - interviews of correspondence standing _ interviews of correspondence standing on _ interviews of correspondence standing on seafront - interviews of correspondence standing on seafront to - interviews of correspondence i standing on seafront to deliver their— standing on seafront to deliver their reports~ _ standing on seafront to deliver their reports-— standing on seafront to deliver their re orts. ~ i. , . ., their reports. when you switch on our tv their reports. when you switch on your tv and _ their reports. when you switch on your tv and see _ their reports. when you switch on your tv and see television - their reports. when you switch on your tv and see television crews l your tv and see television crews reporters standing feet away from crashing waves, you have to think, why are they doing that? j crashing waves, you have to think, why are they doing that? h was why are they doing that? i was concerned _ why are they doing that? i was concerned to _ why are they doing that? i was concerned to see _ why are they doing that? i was concerned to see a _ why are they doing that? i was concerned to see a series - why are they doing that? i was concerned to see a series of. why are they doing that? i was i concerned to see a series of bbc reporters— concerned to see a series of bbc reporters broadcasting live from the same _ reporters broadcasting live from the same front— reporters broadcasting live from the same front during storm yunus. this undermines — same front during storm yunus. this undermines the message givenjust same front during storm yunus. this undermines the message given just a few moments ago by the studio team to stay— few moments ago by the studio team to stay indoors —— eunice. few moments ago by the studio team to stay indoors -- eunice.— to stay indoors -- eunice. thank you to stay indoors -- eunice. thank you to those viewers. _ to stay indoors -- eunice. thank you to those viewers. for— to stay indoors -- eunice. thank you to those viewers. for sending - to stay indoors -- eunice. thank you to those viewers. for sending us - to those viewers. for sending us their feedback on to those viewers. for sending us theirfeedback on video. to those viewers. for sending us their feedback on video. you saw our intrepid correspondence, morgan, craig duggan and andrew plante braving the weather there. and thank you for all your comments this week. if you want to draw your opinions about what you have seen, read or
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. our headlines today... the battle for kyiv — reports that missiles have hit flats in southwest kyiv as russian forces target key locations around the capital. ukrainian president zelensky posts
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a new video on social media telling people not to believe "fake news" that he's left the country, and vowing to fight on. as ukranians arm themselves, the uk government warns people to brace for sickening scenes over the coming days. at the united nations, a resolution calling for moscow to stop the attack is blocked by the russians. tens of thousands of fleeing ukrainians cross into neighbouring countries sparking a call for extra humanitarian support. sport makes a stand. as russia is stripped of the champions league final and the grand prix in sochi is axed, we look at how the crisis is affecting other areas of sport. we have a lot of fine weather on the way for the uk this weekend and, yes, it will be breezy at times but nothing like the strong winds that recent storms have brought us. all
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the details coming up. it's saturday the 26th of february. our main story. a block of flats in kyiv has been struck by a missile during a night of frequent blasts and gunfire — as russian forces assault the capital. a hospital building in melitopol, in the south—east of ukraine, was also struck and the kremlin says russian troops have taken that city — a claim denied by the uk government. the ukrainians say they've shot down a large russian plane carrying troops, as a battle takes place for control of an airport to the south of kyiv. jonah fisher has the latest. a european capital of 3 million people is under attack. the night has brought reports of strikes on a power station and explosions in western parts of kyiv. russia also appears to be trying to bring in reinforcements from the air.
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ukraine says it shot down a military transport plane to the south of kyiv with perhaps as many as 150 troops on board. this morning ukraine's president posted this, from the streets of the capital. rumours of an evacuation and of him telling the army to lay down its weapons was fake news, he said — our weapon is our truth. and the missiles are still flying. this video, tweeted by ukraine's ministry of defence, shows a residential building in central kyiv are being hit this morning. it is not clear if there are any casualties. the man who ordered all of this seems to be hoping that waging war on ukrainians will lead to them overthrowing their leaders.
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translation: i appeal to the service men of the armed forces of ukraine. | do not let neo—nazis and ukrainian ultranationalists use your children, wives and the elderly as human shields. take power into your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, south and east. the russians aren't advancing as fast as they perhaps hoped. there is a certain inevitability about their progress. in the central ukrainian city of dnipro, people are starting to consider what had until recently been unthinkable. i don't want to lose my country. i love it so much, you can't even imagine that. it's quite shocking for me and right now i'm thinking about taking a weapon to my hands at least to defend my local district. so far ukraine is resisting. the sad truth is the tougher they make it for the russian forces, the more brutal the instructions from president putin are likely to be.
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let's speak now to our correspondent james waterhouse in kyiv. james, another terrifying and dangerous night for the people there. the images appear to show a missile hitting a block of flats. what more do we know about anyone who was inside? j do we know about anyone who was inside? ~ . do we know about anyone who was inside? ~ , ,. ., do we know about anyone who was inside? ~ , ., . ,, inside? i think it is safe to assume some people _ inside? i think it is safe to assume some people would _ inside? i think it is safe to assume some people would have - inside? i think it is safe to assume some people would have been - inside? i think it is safe to assume i some people would have been inside although the orders from the authorities are for those who hear an air raid siren to get underground. most of the city has been spending the night in metro stations, underground restaurants and arcades and car parks, but there has been heavy fighting around the airport in the outskirts of the city to the south—west as russian troops try to take control. as you can see by those issues of that burning tower block, ordinary people cannot
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be shielded from the reality of this large invasion, and this is a city which is very much being affected by this onslaught coming from the outside and from within with russian saboteurs looking to target electricity power stations for example overnight, there have been rumblings of artillery fire, we have heard automatic weapons fired in the distance. this city is for now holding its ground. ukraine is very much the underdog against the military might of russia. it is holding its ground along with other key cities across the country. russian forces have claimed to have taken melitopol to the south—east, is significant because it is next to the keep port of mariupol. the ukrainian government has dismissed that saying that troops are holding their ground. the worry is that as
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long as ukrainians dig in and the longer russia has denied its predicted quick victory, the worry is that more drastic measures will come. ., , is that more drastic measures will come. . , . , is that more drastic measures will come. . _, . come. that is always the concern. it does appear. _ come. that is always the concern. it does appear. given _ come. that is always the concern. it does appear, given what _ come. that is always the concern. it does appear, given what you - come. that is always the concern. it does appear, given what you have i does appear, given what you have said about claims on both sides, that the russian forces are facing much more opposition than they might have first thought. if} much more opposition than they might have first thought.— have first thought. is that your assessment? _ have first thought. is that your assessment? absolutely. - have first thought. is that your - assessment? absolutely. ukraine's armed forces are much better trained than they were eight years ago when russian troops first moved in to annex crimea and back the militants in the east. there are as intense fighting in central and south ukraine and has been for some time. ukrainians have long said prior to this crisis peaking in such a terrible way, they have long said they will fight. it is clear people have been signing up for territorial
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defence. thousands of weapons have been issued across the country by officials to people that want to defend. there have been online tutorials on how to make petrol bombs to slow the advance. there is no way of checking these numbers in such short notice but ukrainian officials say thousands of russian troops, more than 3000 have been killed so far in fighting. moscow will not comment on that. but this is a war of words as well, truth is hard to come by in moments of intense fighting. but when you take these things together, what we have seen of citizens, ordinary people as they are city is shut down as war descends, bearing arms and heading out our remaining where they are in the defiance of the pressure they are under, taking shelter underground, trying to calm their kids, what we have seen overnight, kids, what we have seen overnight, kids unaware of what is happening above them, these are ordinary people very much impacted in what is the military might of russia closing
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in. ., ~' , .. the military might of russia closing in. . ~' i., ., the military might of russia closing in. thank you for your updates this morninu. tens of thousands of ukrainian civilians are on the move, in search of safety and shelter. the un puts the figure at 100,000 to have left their homes so far. many are heading to the neighbouring countries of poland, romania and hungary. our correspondent, nick thorpe, is in eastern hungary, near the border. tell us about the people you have been meeting. it isa it is a mixture this morning, some travelling on foot over the border, they say it was relatively easy for them to cross the border. they would be coming from small villages on the
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border, many of them ethnic hungarians, but they say there are many more people converging from all over ukraine on the border, who have driven long distances. this particular border crossing is not one of the bigger ones, and that is why they are choosing this one, hoping there are shorter queues. quite a mixed bag, i'd say most of the local people who have wanted to leave, a lot of them have already left in the last a8 hours, and we are getting more and more ukrainians from deeper inside the country, people who have been displaced from the bombing in kyiv and even further east in cities like kharkiv. iis the bombing in kyiv and even further east in cities like kharkiv. if} it east in cities like kharkiv. is it true that men _ east in cities like kharkiv. is it true that men are _ east in cities like kharkiv. is it true that men are fighting age are not being able to leave ukraine? yes, i spoke to many women here yesterday and today who have been
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trying to make phone calls to ring back to see how they are some of those men would have liked to leave but have now been conscripted orforbidden to leave but have now been conscripted or forbidden to leave, some are volunteering of course. i spoke to some ukrainian girls yesterday, one was 19, her 23—year—old boyfriend volunteered to take up arms and is now probably fighting in the streets of kyiv as we speak. as in any war, a situation with many people trying to leave and certainly men between 18 and 60 not allowed to leave the country, and some volunteering, others not allowed to leave, and presumably taking part in other defensive activities. some of the international response has involved sanctions.
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western nations have taken the rare step of ordering personal sanctions on vladimir putin and his foreign minister sergei lavrov. their assets in the us, eu, uk and canada will be frozen and — in the case of the us — a travel ban imposed. however it's unclear what practical effect the sanctions will have. david willis sent this report from washington. protesters chant. repudiation of russia's actions is growing. this the scene in georgia, where 30,000 people took to the capital, tbilisi, in a show of support for fellow former soviet nation ukraine. from the boulevards of buenos aires to the streets of san francisco, people are marching. as he left the white house for the weekend, it was announced president biden is taking the extraordinary step of broadening a punitive package of economic sanctions to include both the russian president, vladimir putin, and his loyal lieutenant, sergei lavrov. following a telephone conversation president biden held with european commission president ursula von der leyen,
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and in alignment with the decision by our european allies, the united states willjoin them in sanctioning president putin and foreign minister lavrov and other members of the russian national security team. i expect we will have more specific details later this afternoon. more significant, perhaps, than a freeze on their personal assets, the measure bans both men from travelling to the united states. russia's diplomatic isolation is growing as well. members of the united nations security council gathered in new york to consider a us resolution condemning moscow's actions in ukraine. the discomfiture of its ambassador, the current chairman of the council, apparent as he read a list of more than 60 countries that supported the draft declaration. australia, austria, albania, andorra, antigua and barbuda... although it has yet to publicly condemn russia's action, china's abstention was taken as a sign of moscow's growing international isolation.
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the motion was defeated when russia, predictably, exercised its veto. you can veto this resolution, but you cannot veto our voices. you cannot veto the truth. you cannot veto our principles. you cannot veto the ukrainian people. you cannot veto the un charter. and you will not veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that it is standing by as the suffering in ukraine continues, the us is promising to send more arms and ammunition. but officials concede that other than that, sanctions are all it has to offer. this conflict is testing the limits of american power. david willis, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, lone wells.
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lone, the prime minister has issued his own appeal to the russian people? yes, and this came after the prime minister spoke yesterday to the ukrainian president zelensky who asked him both for more military support with equipment for ukrainian troops but also more support encouraging russians to see what is being done in their name in the country. in response, borisjohnson last night issued this video where he addressed both russians and ukrainians in their own language. in response to that second refs
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quest —— request for more equipment, ben wallace chaired a virtual donor conference with 25 international partners and said he was pleased to see willingness from those partners to agree to more humanitarian aid but also more military aid for ukraine. this is accompanied by ongoing attempts to try to hit russia's economy with more sanctions including freezing the assets of president putin himself, and also attempts to make russia feel like a global pariah, which was a term used by foreign secretary liz truss after russia vetoed a moved by the un security council to try to condemn russia's actions and force them to withdraw troops from ukraine. she said they were now voting alone, no one votes with russia. there are still some mps calling on the uk and western allies to do more but there is a pretty grim assessment we received last night from western
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officials that is while ukrainians are putting up a tough fight, the more resistance the russian forces meet, the more that they don't meet some of the objectives they are hoping for, the more brutal their attempts to become and more indiscriminate their use of violence as well in ukraine. ukraine gained independence from the soviet union more than 30 years ago but it has struggled to break free from russian interference. ros atkins looks at the recent history of ukraine's relationship with its neighbour. ukraine's independence came in 1991. the soviet union had collapsed and as it splintered a number of new nations emerged. ukraine was one of the largest. its population was 52 million. it was 1200 kilometres from east to west and with that land came a huge farming sector, worth over $20 billion now, or close to £15 billion. as democracy moved east, it was a moment of optimism. in 1991 ukrainians celebrated their first election.
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the us called it momentous. one voters that it was a flowering of our soul. democracy couldn't change the geography or its history. to the east was russia. to the west with poland, slovakia and hungary, all three had communist pasts. by 200a, all three had joined the european union. being pro—russian or pro—europe became a fundamental dividing line in ukrainian politics, and months later, we saw how. 's misallocation of electoral fraud, became known as the orange revolution began and two men wore the focus. one man who was pro—russia and had
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initially been declared the winner, and the man on the right who was pro—europe and would become president after a new vote, and while the outcome of that election was settled, relations with russia were not. in 2010, there was a further twist. he was re—elected and in 2013 he would take a decision with huge ramifications. chris morris reported at the time. as eu leaders arrived for the eastern partnership so much, something was missing. the centrepiece was supposed to have been the signing of an association agreement with ukraine. but it didn't happen. under pressure from russia, yanukovych walked away from the deal with the eu and another revolution would begin. there were weeks of protests and crackdowns, and in the end, yanukovych would flee his country estate just outside of kyiv and head for russia. watching from moscow was vladimir putin. this was his cue to act. first, russia annexed crimea from ukraine. it is a peninsula on the black sea. weeks later, pro—russia rebels seized two regions in eastern ukraine. russia already divided ukrainian politics, now putin was dividing the country itself. but the turn towards the west that frustrated him then remains now. one recent poll shows 68% of ukrainians in favour ofjoining the eu. putin, though, sees russians and ukrainians as one people, a single whole. he says ukraine is
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ancient russian soil. that perception may explained this invasion, but perhaps there is something else as well, because the 90s brought a surge of democratic optimism. to ukraine's current president, this invasion is showing us what putin thinks of that. translation: putin started a war against ukraine, - against the whole democratic world. he wants to destroy my country. he wants to destroy our country, everything we have built. that effort to build a nation began as ukraine emerged from the soviet union and the end of the cold war. today, as russia invades, ukrainians are seeing the extent of putin's resentment of what happened then and what has happened since. general sir richard shirreff was nato's deputy supreme commander in europe and the author of a book which warned that the uk and other western powers were not ready to deal with russian aggression.
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he joins us from wiltshire. i suppose a very simple question given what we said there. why was the west not ready? in given what we said there. why was the west not ready?— given what we said there. why was the west not ready? in simple terms the west not ready? in simple terms the west not ready? in simple terms the west has — the west not ready? in simple terms the west has not _ the west not ready? in simple terms the west has not been _ the west not ready? in simple terms the west has not been ready - the west not ready? in simple terms the west has not been ready for - the west not ready? in simple terms the west has not been ready for this| the west has not been ready for this because there has not been the political will to invest in the capabilities required and there is a direct result of the politics of the west, the fact that constituencies are not are prepared to prioritise defence over other aspects of national spending. defence over other aspects of nationalspending. iis defence over other aspects of national spending. if} it defence over other aspects of national spending.— defence over other aspects of national spending. is it true to say we never thought _ national spending. is it true to say we never thought we _ national spending. is it true to say we never thought we could - national spending. is it true to say we never thought we could ever i national spending. is it true to say| we never thought we could ever be national spending. is it true to say i we never thought we could ever be at this stage? a common question many of us have is how is this allowed to be happening in europe in 2022? islam; be happening in europe in 2022? many of us did think — be happening in europe in 2022? many of us did think it _ be happening in europe in 2022? many of us did think it could _ be happening in europe in 2022? many of us did think it could happen which is why i wrote the book, war
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with russia, to highlight the perils we were stepping into. crimea in 201a was a serious watershed because that was a strategic shock for the nato alliance, it was an annexation of part of a european country, it was changing the borders of europe by force, and if you look and listen to what putin said at the time, the language is consistent with his recent utterings as well. "we are one nation. it is the will of russian people to unite all russians under the banner of mother russia." there should be no surprises here. there should be no surprises here. the nightmare was there for us to see and to be ready and to touch if we had listened to what was going
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on. hf we had listened to what was going on. . , ., , ., we had listened to what was going on. . ., .. we had listened to what was going on. . ., .,, on. if we were in a position to be better prepared. _ on. if we were in a position to be better prepared, to _ on. if we were in a position to be better prepared, to have - on. if we were in a position to be better prepared, to have seen i on. if we were in a position to be. better prepared, to have seen this coming, perhaps, what with those preparations have looked like and how might have changed the outcome? two things, one is support for ukraine. the support for ukraine has been extensive over the last eight years. the uk has spent a lot of time and effort training and supporting the ukrainian armed forces and perhaps, just perhaps some of the consequences of that have been played out in the battles of ukraine at the moment, because indications are that the ukrainians are fighting seriously hard and making life very difficult for the russians, and the more difficult they make it for the russians, the better. the other aspect is the nato alliance. our security and defence
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in western europe and the broader trans— atlantic region to include america and canada, it rests on nato, it is the foundation stone of our defence. that requires commitment, recognition that defence is a priority, that peace is precious and must be paid for. we could have done much more. the reality is for the last decade and a half successive governments, particularly in this country but right across europe, have cut defence to the bone. we have seen cumulative effect of disarmament, we have lost capabilities that we had, and we are now in the position where we are facing a perilous threat on the borders of nato which could easily overspill and so we need now to really recognise the and in a sense gird our loins to an existential danger and come out of a
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long sleep and, of an assumption that the world is a nice cosy place and we really need to take stock. this and we really need to take stock. as this fundamental research of how we view security across the continent? we know that you project, we know nato was designed to bring stability and peace —— the eu project. is that now over? hie and peace -- the eu pro'ect. is that now over?— and peace -- the eu pro'ect. is that now over? ., . . ., now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not — now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not over— now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not over but _ now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not over but you _ now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not over but you are _ now over? no mac. the importance of nato is not over but you are quite - nato is not over but you are quite right we are living in a new world, since the 2ath of february life has utterly changed. clearly for ukraine this is a total catastrophe. but for the rest of europe it is a catastrophe as well. what this means now as we are living in a world where international sovereign nations cannot live in peace under international law without the threat of being subjected to invasion by
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their neighbours. as i said elsewhere, the politics of iron and blood, to quote bismarck who is rather chilling words have returned to europe with a vengeance. the sum of this is rearmament, defence spending, rebuilding of capabilities that have long since been lost, reconstitution of armed forces, because our peace, our freedom our way of life depends on being able to demonstrate unequivocally that we can defend nato. it requires effective deterrence, the only way to preserve peace is through effective deterrence and that means conventional strength and i'm afraid it also means recognising the importance of nuclear deterrence, because nuclear was put in a box in the west after the end of the cold war and is now back on the scene in a big way. war and is now back on the scene in a bi wa . .. war and is now back on the scene in a bi wa. .. . ~' war and is now back on the scene in abiawa. ., . ,, a big way. you talked about the ossibili a big way. you talked about the possibility of — a big way. you talked about the possibility of this _ a big way. you talked about the possibility of this crisis - a big way. you talked about the possibility of this crisis spilling | possibility of this crisis spilling over into the rest of europe. i know
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you have written this week saying if we don't respond robustly and convincingly the continent of europe could be doomed to total war again. i wonder what that robust and convincing response would look like? it means manning the ramparts of nato, reinforcing the eastern flank countries of nato from the baltic states down to romania and bulgaria. it means demonstrating that nato can mobilise, reinforce, and that it has a genuine warfighting capability and is prepared to defend every inch of nato territory, every bit of nato air space and our lines of communications.- air space and our lines of communications. thank you for talkin: communications. thank you for talking us _ communications. thank you for talking us through _ communications. thank you for talking us through there - communications. thank you for talking us through there and i communications. thank you for - talking us through there and giving is your perspective. we will talk to the armed forces
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minister in the next few minister. —— next few minutes. here's susan with a look at the weather. clear skies over and light winds. blue skies but a touch of frost. a chilly star across many central and eastern areas of england at the moment. the clearest skies, this whole area of clear sky marks a big area of high pressure pushing back into the uk from western europe. for the weekend we will see these fronts trying to come into play. across scotland and northern ireland. mild here perhaps some rain for a time. the sun coming and going rather than the blue skies we will see across much of england and wales. north—east scotland, some shelter around the moray firth, we could get some sunshine. this evening and
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overnight, more of a breeze but clear skies across much of england and wales and into southern scotland where i think we are likely to catch a frost once again. these temperatures are for towns and cities, it is always a little warmer there. western scotland and northern ireland, a milder night underneath cloud as this week whether front pushes in with some patchy rain possible across western scotland on and off through sunday. eastern scotland with more widespread sunshine. northern ireland, sunny spells, england and wales fine with a lot of sunshine. cooler for all of us tomorrow, 8—11. this front looks more meaningfulfor us tomorrow, 8—11. this front looks more meaningful for monday. us tomorrow, 8—11. this front looks more meaningfulfor monday. this is the forecasting headache for the next few days because exactly what happens on the tail end of this whether front could make a difference to when we see the wettest weather across england and wales on monday and exactly where we get the heaviest downpours. at the
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moment it looks to be towards the west on monday daytime and the east in the evening. it looks like that little bump on the frontal system could hold the rain back into the south—east of england later on into tuesday. by tuesday the frontal system trying to get off towards the continent, high pressure building and once again, for the majority tuesday looks very springlike. widespread sunshine. top temperatures 9—10.
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hello, this is breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. let's get the latest updates on the crisis in ukraine. we're joined in the studio by our correspondentjonah fisher. good morning, lots changing already just this morning. yes. good morning, lots changing already just this morning.— just this morning. yes, a lot changing. — just this morning. yes, a lot changing. kyiv _ just this morning. yes, a lot changing, kyiv has - just this morning. yes, a lot changing, kyiv has been - just this morning. yes, a lot i changing, kyiv has been under just this morning. yes, a lot - changing, kyiv has been under attack overnight. yes, in the last few minutes we've seen these pictures of an apartment block in kyiv. this is near the airport, being struck by what looks like a missile.
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extremely graphic, this has been caught on cctv, tweeted by the ministry of defence and the mayor of the key have. it is still unclear how many people were in the building when that missile struck but you can see some people were being taken out to hospital. the real sense of what has been happening around kyiv is a city that is under attack from all sides. this is president zelensky who came out on the street to show his face and speak to the ukrainian people. his face and speak to the ukrainian --eole. . ., his face and speak to the ukrainian --eole. . . .. his face and speak to the ukrainian --eole. , . ., ., .~ people. there is a lot of fake information _ people. there is a lot of fake information that _ people. there is a lot of fake information that we - people. there is a lot of fake information that we are - people. there is a lot of fake - information that we are evacuating and i'm _ information that we are evacuating and i'm telling the army to lay down its weapons. i'm here, not laying down _ its weapons. i'm here, not laying down any— its weapons. i'm here, not laying down any weapons. our weapon is our truth~ _ down any weapons. our weapon is our truth. tate— down any weapons. our weapon is our truth. ~ . down any weapons. our weapon is our truth. ~ , . , truth. we believe that president zelensky was — truth. we believe that president zelensky was offered _ truth. we believe that president zelensky was offered the - truth. we believe that president - zelensky was offered the opportunity to leave kyiv yesterday and decided to leave kyiv yesterday and decided to stay and as you can see, he is there this morning. this is a map of
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kyiv itself and let me just take you through some of the development overnight. there was an attempt made to take a power station on the left bank, there was fighting around there last night. we believe the ukrainians are back in control of it. the most important battles overnight took place at vasil kyiv. a theme of the last few days have been russia's attempts to try and get an airstrip, somewhere it can put big planes on the ground and get large numbers of people in close to kyiv for an attack on the city. we understand from the ukrainian side that they are claiming to have shot down two transporter planes, this is the type of plane the ukrainian ministry of defence have said they have shot down, a plane that can take 150 paratroopers, but we have not been able to independently
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verify that information. the ukrainians are saying they have been successful in doing this. if we just look back at kyiv itself, this is the main road from the centre of kyiv leading to the west and you may remember the pictures from a day or so ago of people trying to flee kyiv to head west to the border with the european union. overnight, along that road, probably in the region of five to ten kilometres outside the centre of kyiv, there were explosions, clashes. the ukrainian military is saying they were fighting with a small group of russians, perhaps some advanced party or saboteurs. this part of kyiv is pretty central, quite near kyiv is pretty central, quite near kyiv zoo, so you really get a sense from this and what has been going on all around the city that it is a city under attack, 3 million people in kyiv and very much being targeted on all sides. bird in kyiv and very much being targeted on all sides-— on all sides. and i know you will
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kee as on all sides. and i know you will keep as right — on all sides. and i know you will keep as right up _ on all sides. and i know you will keep as right up to _ on all sides. and i know you will keep as right up to date - on all sides. and i know you will keep as right up to date on - on all sides. and i know you will. keep as right up to date on events on a fast—moving situation. thank you. james heappey is the minister for the armed forces. thank you for talking to us, good morning. president zelensky of ukraine said last night that he expected russian troops to storm at the capitol in the coming hours, is that your information?— the capitol in the coming hours, is that your information? certainly we are aware of— that your information? certainly we are aware of a _ that your information? certainly we are aware of a russian _ that your information? certainly we are aware of a russian plan - that your information? certainly we are aware of a russian plan that. are aware of a russian plan that would have seen them take a whole raft of ukrainian cities on day one, encircle kyiv on day two and be dodging an assault into kyiv pretty soon thereafter. —— running an assault. they are not near that, melitopol is claimed to have been taken but we have been seeing nothing to substantiate that, they are still in ukrainian hands and
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fighting that your correspondence have been reporting overnight, as far as we can tell, it is very isolated pockets of russians, special forces and paratroopers. isolated pockets of russians, specialforces and paratroopers. the main arm of columns that were coming down from the north are still somewhat further north and that is because of the heroism of the ukrainian armed forces and the way they have stood their ground and delayed these. pare they have stood their ground and delayed these-— they have stood their ground and delayed these. they have stood their ground and dela ed these. �* ,. . . delayed these. are you expecting the ca - ital to delayed these. are you expecting the capital to fall — delayed these. are you expecting the capital to fall to _ delayed these. are you expecting the capital to fall to russian _ delayed these. are you expecting the capital to fall to russian troops - delayed these. are you expecting the capital to fall to russian troops at - capital to fall to russian troops at some point?— capital to fall to russian troops at some point? obviously, i sincerely hoe not. some point? obviously, i sincerely hope not. everything _ some point? obviously, i sincerely hope not. everything that - some point? obviously, i sincerely hope not. everything that i - some point? obviously, i sincerely hope not. everything that i can - some point? obviously, i sincerely hope not. everything that i can do| hope not. everything that i can do from the ministry of defence, everything that ben wallace and the prime minister can do, we are doing to support the ukrainian armed forces but they are up against it. they are fighting tremendously. the russian plan, because it is not going to the schedule we understood that they wanted to, will now have to include challenges to their logistics chain which i suspect they
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had not envisaged. that is an opportunity for the ukrainians as well, but nobody should think that this is anywhere near to over. i am afraid that what stands in front of ukraine, its forces, and very tragically its people, it is days, weeks, months or more of what we have seen of the last 2a hours. you have seen of the last 24 hours. you sa ou have seen of the last 24 hours. you say you are — have seen of the last 24 hours. you say you are doing — have seen of the last 24 hours. you say you are doing all that you can, but to some of the citizens in ukraine, it feels as though we in the west are simply watching their capital city under siege waiting for it to fall to an invading force. j it to fall to an invading force. i can understand how they feel like that. ms can understand how they feel like that. . can understand how they feel like that-_ there _ can understand how they feel like that._ there is - can understand how they feel like that._ there is a - can understand how they feel like that._ there is a sense l that. is it true? there is a sense of natural _ that. is it true? there is a sense of naturaljustice _ that. is it true? there is a sense of naturaljustice in _ that. is it true? there is a sense of naturaljustice in me - that. is it true? there is a sense of naturaljustice in me that - that. is it true? there is a sense of naturaljustice in me that you | of naturaljustice in me that you want to be able to do everything you actively can, but the reality is that what you are effectively asking me is is the uk going to declare war
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on russia and very obviously we are not. so what we can do, what we have been doing, what we will continue to do, is to make sure that we get to the ukrainians everything we possibly can. last night, ben wallace was on a conference with other donor nations so we can understand what other countries are willing to give. we will now coordinate with the americans how that can be delivered into ukraine over the coming days. that lethal aid is proving to be of use. the ukrainian armed forces have got a lot of content on social media showing how much they have valued the british anti—tank missiles we provided three or four weeks ago. the uk has been second only to the united states in the aid we have provided. ben wallace last night
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convened 25, 26 other defence ministers to pull together on why their international effort for humanitarian and lethal aid, the uk is doing everything it can short of declaring war, and i don't think any of our viewers would want to be doing that. of our viewers would want to be doing that-— of our viewers would want to be doinu that. ~ ., ., ,. , . doing that. what are you expecting over the coming _ doing that. what are you expecting over the coming days? _ doing that. what are you expecting over the coming days? that - doing that. what are you expecting over the coming days? that is - doing that. what are you expecting over the coming days? that is the l over the coming days? that is the trauic over the coming days? that is the tragic thing. _ over the coming days? that is the tragic thing. i _ over the coming days? that is the tragic thing, i think _ over the coming days? that is the tragic thing, i think people - over the coming days? that is the tragic thing, i think people are i over the coming days? that is the tragic thing, i think people are far too often see these pictures and think it ends in a few days' time, we are on to the next issue. this is not the case. president putin, if you listen to his speeches, look at his press conference over the last two or three days, has been fanaticism in the language he has used, further in the tone of his voice, that he has gone all in on
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this and i'm afraid that means the matter with ukraine is bloody, brutal. we have done everything we can to help them resist, but people should not think a happy ending is just round the corner, this will be a long slog, it will be brutal, we will see horrendous things on our tv screens. we should all stand with ukraine, pay for their screens. we should all stand with ukraine, pay fortheirarmed screens. we should all stand with ukraine, pay for their armed forces and to do everything realistically we can to support them. —— pray for their armed forces. we can to support them. -- pray for their armed forces.— their armed forces. there are thousands _ their armed forces. there are thousands of _ their armed forces. there are thousands of people - their armed forces. there are thousands of people on - their armed forces. there are thousands of people on the i their armed forces. there are - thousands of people on the move, thousands of people on the move, thousands of people on the move, thousands of ukrainians wanting to get out of the country. you will note that wales has said it wants to be a nation of sanctuary to ukrainians, does england want to be a nation of sanctuary to ukrainians fleeing the violence? that a nation of sanctuary to ukrainians fleeing the violence?— fleeing the violence? that is something _ fleeing the violence? that is something that _ fleeing the violence? that is something that i _ fleeing the violence? that is something that i know - fleeing the violence? that is something that i know the i fleeing the violence? that is - something that i know the home secretary is looking at with colleagues. the immediate concern, to be honest, is helping poland,
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hungary, slovakia, romania, deal with the anticipated flow of refugees across the ukrainian border. we have thousands of troops pretty much sat on the runway ready to those countries if they ask for them in order to help deal with the humanitarian challenge. where people are then resettled to thereafter is something we will need to work with countries around europe to understand.— countries around europe to understand. �* �* understand. but i'm asking you, will enaland understand. but i'm asking you, will england accept _ understand. but i'm asking you, will england accept ukrainians _ understand. but i'm asking you, will england accept ukrainians wanting i understand. but i'm asking you, will| england accept ukrainians wanting to flee to safety, and if so, how many ukrainians?— ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear. _ ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear. i— ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear, i do _ ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear, i do not _ ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear, i do not know - ukrainians? sorry, i thought i had been clear, i do not know the - ukrainians? sorry, ithought i had i been clear, i do not know the answer to that question, it is work in progress for the home secretary. that we would accept some, you would have thought? j that we would accept some, you would have thought?— have thought? i cannot be any clearer, have thought? i cannot be any clearer. i _ have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do _ have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do not _ have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do not know. - have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do not know. it - have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do not know. it is i have thought? i cannot be any clearer, i do not know. it is a l have thought? i cannot be any - clearer, i do not know. it is a work in progress for the home secretary. it is not in my gift to make any announcement or even make any sort of suggestion of an announcement in
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this interview today. i have the detail at my disposal around what is going on at militarily in ukraine and everything we are doing to help, ijust cannot make immigration policy. ijust cannot make immigration oli . ~ ., ijust cannot make immigration oli . ., ijust cannot make immigration oli .~ . ijust cannot make immigration policy. what about you personally, would ou policy. what about you personally, would you like _ policy. what about you personally, would you like to _ policy. what about you personally, would you like to see _ policy. what about you personally, would you like to see is _ policy. what about you personally, would you like to see is welcome i would you like to see is welcome some ukrainians to england? we have a fine tradition _ some ukrainians to england? we have a fine tradition of— some ukrainians to england? we have a fine tradition of doing _ some ukrainians to england? we have a fine tradition of doing exactly - a fine tradition of doing exactly that sort of thing. one of the things i do still every day in the minutes when i am not looking at maps of ukraine and the intelligence that we are receiving is work to get people out of afghanistan, through pakistan and other neighbouring countries and back to the uk and we are bringing out still, months after the media have moved on, 200 people are coming out every week or so from afghanistan, so the uk has a fine tradition in doing what it should in these circumstances, but he will just excuse me, and i hope your viewers will, if i am just unable to
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make immigration policy here on your show and i apologise for that. ihio show and i apologise for that. no need to apologise, i do not think i was asking you to make immigration policy on the hoof, but fair enough. if the russians do overthrow the democratic government of ukraine, what with the west do to try and reverse that, if anything? or would it accept it?— it accept it? that, i think, is the other part _ it accept it? that, i think, is the other part of — it accept it? that, i think, is the other part of the _ it accept it? that, i think, is the other part of the equation. - it accept it? that, i think, is the | other part of the equation. there it accept it? that, i think, is the i other part of the equation. there is the urgent are supported to the ukrainian armed forces and their effort to resist as best they can brush in advance, and then there is what is next in terms of competition with russia, however it goes with ukraine. —— the russian advance. we need to give it some pretty strong thought to what this new period of competition with russia looks like and that is notjust a military competition, it is a diplomatic and
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economic and even a cultural competition. if you think back to the 70s and 805, the competition. if you think back to the 705 and 805, the work the bbc did in communicating the values of freedom and liberal democracy into russia it was a key part of what led to the downfall of the soviet union, so there is a competition that follows with russia over years, perhaps decades, in which we need to bring about the failure of vladimir putin personally, his failure to anoint an successor, the failure of those who surround him and the failure of this awful leadership which is sacrificing so much of their bravest and best. he is not doing this in the name of russia.
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let's speak to some people in the south of ukraine. colin wood — who is originally from the uk — and his wife olga are in the port city of odesa. talk to me about what you are seeing outside right now, i know you are living through a pretty harrowing experience. living through a pretty harrowing experience-_ living through a pretty harrowing exerience. ~ . , . experience. what we were expecting at about eight _ experience. what we were expecting at about eight o'clock _ experience. what we were expecting at about eight o'clock last _ experience. what we were expecting at about eight o'clock last night - at about eight o'clock last night our time, we were advised by a friend who is in the police here, that all police officers had been called back to work because airborne troops were on their way to land in edessa. this morning, we saw nothing this morning and i've heard since that two troop carriers, which were probably carrying those paratroopers, where shot down by ukrainian aircraft last night, so the landing does not seem to have happened. we have not heard anything this morning. although our clothes
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were laid down next to the bed, we are ready to run to the shelters if anything happened. that underlines m next anything happened. that underlines my next question, _ anything happened. that underlines my next question, how— anything happened. that underlines my next question, how difficult - anything happened. that underlines my next question, how difficult is i my next question, how difficult is it to find out what is going on? how difficult is it to get access to the information you need to make some pretty crucial decisions?— pretty crucial decisions? social media is making _ pretty crucial decisions? social media is making it _ pretty crucial decisions? social media is making it a _ pretty crucial decisions? social media is making it a lot - pretty crucial decisions? social| media is making it a lot easier, because i have friends all over ukraine, in most of the cities of ukraine, in most of the cities of ukraine i have friends, and they are talking directly to me and advising me what their eyewitness accounts are. ., , ~' me what their eyewitness accounts are. . , ~ , .. me what their eyewitness accounts are. . . me what their eyewitness accounts are. let me ask you about your decision to _ are. let me ask you about your decision to stay, _ are. let me ask you about your decision to stay, a _ are. let me ask you about your decision to stay, a lot - are. let me ask you about your decision to stay, a lot of- decision to stay, a lot of neighbours i assume have moved as well but you have both made the decision to stay where you are, how did you come to that decision? mr; did you come to that decision? my english is only little. my mother
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lives _ english is only little. my mother lives in — english is only little. my mother lives in ukraine in odesa, my grandma _ lives in ukraine in odesa, my grandma. lived in ukraine always. and that _ grandma. lived in ukraine always. and that is — grandma. lived in ukraine always. and that is the problem, it is very difficult to leave with sony connections. colin, i know you run a business, talk about how you have managed that and the difficulty of leaving your home, business and investments there? —— leave with so many connections. this investments there? -- leave with so many connections.— many connections. this is the hardest thing. _ many connections. this is the hardest thing. family - many connections. this is the hardest thing. family is - many connections. this is the hardest thing. family is the i many connections. this is the - hardest thing. family is the most important thing, overnight, family
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with some friends have made it to the border overnight, but olga has other relations still here and as you say, our business is still here. we purchased a house about a month ago and everything we have we are spending on this house, so if we did run it we would be running with absolutely nothing. olga does not have a v2 so we would be relying on getting into a country without her having a visa and her and myself for that matter having refugee status. yes, and faced with such a tough decision, i wonder what might happen that would convince you now is the time to leave? what would convince you that you need to go? the time to leave? what would convince you that you need to go?— you that you need to go? the sad thin is, you that you need to go? the sad thing is. what _ you that you need to go? the sad thing is, what would _ you that you need to go? the sad thing is, what would convince - you that you need to go? the sad thing is, what would convince us| you that you need to go? the sad l thing is, what would convince us is seeing troops in the street and by thenit seeing troops in the street and by then it would be too late. i have
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seen videos from kyiv, from people i know living there, who have taken videos themselves and put them on social media, showing people in the streets throwing molotov cocktails at russian tanks. i hope it does not come to that in odesa. we live in a residential area so perhaps the troops will not come he acts will go to the centre and we will escape fairly likely damage and injuries. however, having to be forced to be under the russian government does not sit comfortably with any of us. i wonder what preparations you may have made if that does come to pass you need to leave? what will happen? where will you go and how will you get out? where will you go and how will you aet out? . . ., where will you go and how will you aet out? , ,. , .,, where will you go and how will you tetout? , , ,, get out? this is a problem, because we do not have _ get out? this is a problem, because we do not have a _ get out? this is a problem, because we do not have a car— get out? this is a problem, because we do not have a car at _ get out? this is a problem, because we do not have a car at the - get out? this is a problem, because |
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we do not have a car at the moment, because we live in a residential area so we have everything we need around us. we have not purchased a car, the house was the big priority. city getaway, we did need to hitch a ride with someone else leaving. from here, the only way to go really is moldova and romania and then into europe that way. we cannot go up country and across the polish border, because that is 800 kilometres or even thousand kilometres or even thousand kilometres away. we kilometres or even thousand kilometres away.— kilometres or even thousand kilometres away. we send you our very best, wishing you well, thank you for talking to us this morning. thank you, stay safe. u efa uefa have taken a stand because of what russia have done to ukraine. exactly, russia has historically played a huge role in sport, we note that since 2000 they have hosted a world cup, two olympics, but another is huge pressure on many governing
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in sport to remove all these events from russia altogether and uefa in the past 2a hours has decided to strip russia of the champions league final this year. it was due to be held in st petersburg, but has been switched to paris at the stade de france. manchester united interim manager, ralf rangnick, whose side are in the last 16 of the competition, has backed the decision. the situation itself is desperately sad. i think everybody will think similarly about that, this is just an incredible situation that we have that kind of war within europe and therefore i think the decision that uefa took was inevitable and it was the right decision. united have themselves terminated their sponsorship deal with the russian national airline aeroflot one year early. it follows the government's ban on the airline operating in the uk. chelsea manager thomas tuchel admits
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uncertainty around the club is clouding his side's preparation for tomorrow's league cup final against liverpool. chelsea are owned by russian billionaire roman abramovich, believed to be close to russian president vladimir putin. tuchel said the situation for chelsea was horrible. meanwhile, uefa say that spartak moscow will not be allowed to play at home in their europa league last 16 tie. they've ruled that all home games involving russian or ukrainian teams must be played at neutral venues. this season's russian grand prix has been axed. an f1 statement said it had been agreed at a meeting of stakeholders "that it is impossible to hold the race in the current circumstances". it had been due to take place in sochi in september. plenty of messages of support for ukraine from across the world of sport over recent days, as well plenty of protests against the military action, including from tennis's russian world number seven.
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andrey rublev went through to the final of the dubai tennis championship and immediately after his victory in the semis wrote on a courtside tv camera "no war please", seemingly a message to his own government. fans and players are expected to show their support for ukraine at premier league games this weekend. the game involving everton and manchester city later is likely to feature a ukrainian international on both sides, while west ham face wolves tomorrow, but west ham have given winger andriy yarmolenko time off. yarmolenko was born in russia to ukrainian parents, who moved back to their homeland when he was a child. i spoke with him yesterday when he was at the training ground, i spoke with him and he was upset, which you can imagine, and rightly so, so we just hope that everything goes well and that all his family members and close
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family members all keep safe. let's move away from events in ukraine forjust a moment. the six nations continues this weekend. ireland play italy tomorrow, but two matches today for you today. first up it's scotland against leaders france at murrayfield. the scots were narrowly beaten by wales last time out, having beaten england in their opening game. they will however be without flanker hamish watson who tested positive for covid last night and won't make the game. his captain, though, remains optimistic. the exciting thing for me is i know we can beat them, i truly believe we can beat them, and if we get everything right on the day, easier said than done, but every single moment is massive. every ten minutes youi get through is huge. and if we can win the first ten, 15, 20 minutes, we grow in confidence as the game goes on and get a good foothold in the game, hopefully we can grow through the game and get the result we are more than capable of getting.
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after that, there's another huge match at twickenham with england taking on the reigning champions wales. both sides are looking for back—to—back wins after wales saw off scotland and england's new—look side comfortably beat italy in the last round of matches. it's the first time england's stadium will be packed with fans for a championship in two years. and head coach eddiejones is hoping for the twickenham factor. we want to show what new england can do. it is a new team, it has a new mindset about the bay we want to play the game, it has a new leadership group, but these games are there to test you. a really difficult task to claw england back because they always have the ability to pick up points and score points well, so it is imperative we start the game really well and take to england as opposed to being on the back foot and coughing up a few points. norwich city are in relegation trouble, right at the bottom of the premier league. they lost 2—0 at southampton last
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night — goals from che adams and this one from 0riol romeu gave saints three points to lift them to ninth in the table. norwich remain bottom, five points from safety. brentford's manager has confirmed christian eriksen will make his debut in today's crucial match against newcastle. this comes eight months after the danish midfielder suffered a cardiac arrest at the euros last year and has had an internal defibrilator fitted to allow him to continue playing. it's likely he'll come off the bench with manager thomas frank saying, "it's a big day for all of us, but especially chris and his family." british number one cameron norrie has pulled off one of the biggest wins of his career to reach the final of the mexican open. he beat world numberfour stefanos tsitsipas in straight sets. 6-a, 6-a. what a year he's having. he'll have a pretty daunting opponent in the final. none other than three—time champion rafa nadal.
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that one is starting early in the morning but norrie is having an incredible yeah, he's number 12 at the minute but depending on what happens he could break into the top ten. we have one other developing news story to bring you this morning. british airways has been forced to cancel a number of flights at heathrow airport due to what it calls "significant technical issues" the airline's website and app were inaccessible flights or check—in online and there's more disruption today. passengers are advised to check before they travel. it is understood the system issues are not a result of any cyber attack. they say that is not the case. here's susan with the weather. good morning, once again at some beautiful skies as we start the day
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across the uk. behind me, ponte preece, and many of us will see plenty more sunshine at this weekend. cloud will turn to thin and bake in the next few hours, but there is more solid than he is heading towards the north—west is a weather front that will keep the cloud rather more persistent across scotland and northern ireland. it is trying to squash into this area of high pressure and that holds things very steady generally across the uk, so much lighter winds than last weekend, although the winds will stiffen up a bit but for england and wales, it stays fine, temperatures ten to 12. around the moray firth we should get good breaks of cloud and “p should get good breaks of cloud and up to 12 degrees this afternoon. through this evening and overnight, we continue with clear skies across england and wales. also into southern and central scotland and we
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will once again, rather like this morning, see a fast developing down the spine of the country. look towards the north—west, under the cloud, a little milder, temperatures four to 6 degrees. there is the cloud first thing sunday and the rain, but better day across western scotland on sunday, but in the east, perhaps the sunshine more extensive. just a slightly cooler feel for all of us on sunday, temperatures eight to 11 degrees. then we looked at the start of the new week and all of that fine, quiet weather moves away eastwards, offer ghostly high and incomes this. nowhere near as stormy as the deep lows we have had of late, but could be a bit of a headache, predicting where we will see the wettest weather. harder to pinpoint the timing, at the moment it looks like the wettest weather will be in the west across england and wales through the early part of the day and then shift eastwards for the day and then shift eastwards for the evening and overnight, but it will be worth keeping up—to—date with monday's forecast if you have me whether critical plans. same
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story for that same system with exactly how quickly this area of rain will get out the way for the south—east of england on tuesday, but you can see their high pressure intent on building across the uk once again on tuesday, actually, for the majority of the uk, tuesday is going to offer up a day of light winds, blue skies and sunshine, with temperatures of nine to 10 degrees. just that chance of thicker cloud and are breaks of rain clinging on close to southern coasts and perhaps across the south—east of england through the day.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. our headlines today. the battle for kyiv — missiles hit residential flats in southwest kyiv, as russian forces target key locations around the capital. ukrainian president zelensky posts a new video on social media telling people not to believe "fake news" that he's left the country, and vowing to fight on. a5 ukrainians arm themselves, the uk government warns people to brace for sickening scenes over the coming days. at the united nations a resolution calling for moscow to stop the attack is blocked — by the russians. tens of thousands of fleeing ukrainians cross into neighbouring countries sparking a call for extra humanitarian support.
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it's saturday the 26th of february. our main story. 35 people — including two children — have been wounded in kyiv overnight as russian forces assault the capital. that's according to the city mayor vitali klitschko. a block of flats in the capital was struck by a missile, although it's believed nobody was hurt in that incident. a hospital building in melitopol, in the south—east of ukraine, was also struck. the ukrainians say they've shot down a large russian plane carrying troops, as a battle takes place for control of an airport to the south of kyiv. jonah fisher has the latest. a european capital of 3 million people is under attack. the night has brought reports of strikes on a power station and explosions in western
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parts of kyiv. russia also appears to be trying to bring in reinforcements from the air. ukraine says it shot down a military transport plane to the south of kyiv with perhaps as many as 150 troops on board. this morning ukraine's president posted this, from the streets of the capital. rumours of an evacuation and of him telling the army to lay down its weapons was fake news, he said — our weapon is our truth. and the missiles are still flying. this video, tweeted by ukraine's ministry of defence, shows a residential building in central kyiv being hit this morning. it is not clear if there are any casualties. it is not yet clear how many were
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inside at the time. the man who ordered all of this seems to be hoping that waging war on ukrainians will lead to them overthrowing their leaders. translation: i appeal to the service men of the armed forces of ukraine. | do not let neo—nazis and ukrainian ultranationalists use your children, wives and the elderly as human shields. take power into your own hands. ukraine is under attack from the north, south and east. the russians aren't advancing as fast as they perhaps hoped. but there is a certain inevitability about their progress. in the central ukrainian city of dnipro, people are starting to consider what had until recently been unthinkable. i don't want to lose my country. i love it so much, you can't even imagine that. it's quite shocking for me and right now i'm thinking about taking a weapon to my hands at least to defend my local district. so far ukraine is resisting.
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the sad truth is the tougher they make it for the russian forces, the more brutal the instructions from president putin are likely to be. in a few minutes we'll catch up with our kyiv correspondent, james waterhouse. we will get all the latest. in the meantime... western nations have taken the rare step of ordering personal sanctions on vladimir putin and his foreign minister sergey lavrov. their assets in the us, eu, uk and canada will be frozen and — in the case of the us — a travel ban imposed. however it's unclear what practical effect the sanctions will have. david willis sent this report from washington. protesters chant. repudiation of russia's actions is growing. this the scene in georgia, where 30,000 people took to the capital, tbilisi, in a show of support for fellow former soviet nation ukraine. from the boulevards of buenos aires
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to the streets of san francisco, people are marching. as he left the white house for the weekend, it was announced president biden is taking the extraordinary step of broadening a punitive package of economic sanctions to include both the russian president, vladimir putin, and his loyal lieutenant, sergei lavrov. following a telephone conversation president biden held with european commission president ursula von der leyen, and in alignment with the decision by our european allies, the united states willjoin them in sanctioning president putin and foreign minister lavrov and other members of the russian national security team. i expect we will have more specific details later this afternoon. more significant, perhaps, than a freeze on their personal assets, the measure bans both men from travelling to the united states. russia's diplomatic isolation is growing as well. members of the united nations security council gathered in new york to consider a us resolution condemning
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moscow's actions in ukraine. the discomfiture of its ambassador, the current chairman of the council, apparent as he read a list of more than 60 countries that supported the draft declaration. australia, austria, albania, andorra, antigua and barbuda... although it has yet to publicly condemn russia's action, china's abstention was taken as a sign of moscow's growing international isolation. the motion was defeated when russia, predictably, exercised its veto. you can veto this resolution, but you cannot veto our voices. you cannot veto the truth. you cannot veto our principles. you cannot veto the ukrainian people. you cannot veto the un charter. and you will not veto accountability. sensitive to suggestions that it is standing by as the suffering in ukraine
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continues, the us is promising to send more arms and ammunition. but officials concede that, other than that, sanctions are all it has to offer. this conflict is testing the limits of american power. david willis, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, lone wells. we have the armed forces minister live on the programme earlier, what is the government saying today when it comes to support for ukraine? last night the defence secretary ben wallace and a virtual donor conference with more than 25 other countries including most of nato but also countries like sweden and finland, is welcome and at that meeting it was agreed that countries would come forward with more humanitarian but also military support including legal aid, as well, sent to ukrainian troops. the armed forces ministerjames heappey
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told this programme earlier that they would now be working with the us, as well, to coordinate and help deliver those donations that have been agreed. we will now coordinate with the americans how that can be delivered into ukraine over the coming days. and that _ into ukraine over the coming days. and that lethal aid is proving to be of use _ and that lethal aid is proving to be of use you — and that lethal aid is proving to be of use. you know, the ukrainian armed _ of use. you know, the ukrainian armed forces have got a lot of content — armed forces have got a lot of content on _ armed forces have got a lot of content on social media showing how much _ content on social media showing how much they— content on social media showing how much they have valued the british anti-tank— much they have valued the british anti—tank missiles we have provided. a ministry of defence source has said some of this military support agreed include things like weapons, more ammunition, but also anti—tank weapons, as well, and i think the help from the uk perspective is that by offering to support the logistics of this, the delivery of some of these donations, other nations will be encouraged to come forward with more donations and of course military support is accompanied by economic sanctions aimed at
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targeting the russian economy, including freezing the assets of president putin. the help of the uk is to remove russia from the swift international payment system, broadly seen as the toughest economic sanction out there which has so far been met with some resistance by some other nations, and they armed forces ministerjames heappey said there was more diplomacy needed before this would be possible because it is not a decision the uk can take unilateral, but all of this, the sanctions and further literary legal aid now announced, is all really a response to the quite grim assessment that officials have made here, which is that while the ukrainians are putting up a tough fight and while the russians have not yet met their military objectives, the fear is that the more that they don't, the more brutal and indiscriminate the russian violence could become. thahk russian violence could become. thank ou, ione. seeing the images and reports from ukraine is disturbing and upsetting for any of us — but it's likely to be even worse for the thousands of ukrainians who live here in the uk. simonjones has been hearing
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from some of those watching from afar, desperately worried about family members and the fate of their homeland. the anxiety on their faces is clear. members of this ukrainian club in luton are desperately trying of the country is grim. it feels like we are fighting for the whole world. for oleksandra, it brings back painful memories of when she and her family fled eastern ukraine in 201a as fighting started in the donbas region. we were under the table at eight years old, and now i am 15 and i'm already disappointed that all this is happening in the world. i don't want it to face it a second time. in nottingham, roman yuriychuk makes contact with his
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brother who is in ukraine with their 86—year—old mother. they can't believe what's happening. my wife make me up in the early morning and she was crying and said, " russia attack ukraine. " i was shocked, and straight away, i go to the kitchen, we put the news on... ..and we see this crazy situation. at the ukrainian social club in manchester, people are trying to stay strong, but there's a feeling of helplessness. ifeel like i'm useless because i'm here, i'm quite safe, so my son here, yeah, my husband here, but my mother is there, and she said, "i am not going anywhere, i am staying here," and she's disabled, she even can't go anywhere. in liverpool, a ukrainian catholic priest is saying special prayers for those who are suffering,
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with this message. first of all, not to panic. it's important to keep calm...as much as it's possible. hi, 0ksana. hello. wolodymyr has been trying to get his wife 0ksana back to manchester. she had flown out to ukraine to visit her parents and son just before conflict broke out. her flight back was cancelled. she was forced to drive to the polish border. she's got through the border, through the night and check in with her, "where are you? are you through yet? which... where are you aiming for? get a flight. where from? which airport?" our cameras were there when the couple were finally reunited. i feel at home in ukraine. because that is my home, and i feel at home here.
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so i'm glad to be here, as well. chanting. protests outside the russian embassy in london against the invasion. please help us, please. i don't know what to say. i don't know what they can do. just stop him. also there, some of london's russian community. this war... sorry. they did it, from our name. and russians... ..are against war. we don't want it. chanting. some ukrainians have decided to leave the uk and head back to help in the fight against russian forces. chanting. my brother's decided to go back to ukraine and subscribe to the active army, which is really, really worrying for all of us. he's got a little daughter and it's
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really, really upsetting. thousands of ukrainians live in the uk. their home may now be here, but their thoughts are very much with what's happening in their homeland. simon jones, bbc news. let's speak now to our correspondent james waterhouse in kyiv. good morning to you. this morning we have seen images of a missile striking a residential building. we are told no one was hurt in the attack but it really underlines that that salt is getting closer to where you are. t that salt is getting closer to where ou are. ~' , ., , you are. i think it is the reality of an assault _ you are. i think it is the reality of an assault that _ you are. i think it is the reality of an assault that we - you are. i think it is the reality of an assault that we are - you are. i think it is the reality i of an assault that we are seeing, and assault that has taken so many by surprise. an empty assurance by vladimir putin, to be frank, that cities and citizens will not be targeted. in the last few minutes we have heard a number of explosions a few kilometres in that direction, i
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reckon, across the river. we have heard automatic gunfire in the other direction. i will be honest, over the last 12 hours we thought we might see or hear russian troops start to filter in to the central streets here. we did see some troops moving on saint michael's cathedral, not clear what side they were on, but what this shows us his ukrainians here along with other cities across the country are mounting a defence. they are putting up mounting a defence. they are putting up some serious resistance. in the 2a hours when people have been urged to take up arms we have seen hundreds of people queueing to join the country's national defence. and moving scenes of citizens and ordinary people with dayjobs that have stopped overnight, taking a weapon and moving out to the outskirts of the city to face an enemy, and much more powerful enemy, thatis enemy, and much more powerful enemy, that is gradually moving in. the question is frankly whether they can
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delay the inevitable and at what cost. �* ., . delay the inevitable and at what cost. �* .. ,. delay the inevitable and at what cost. . ., . ., cost. and as you touch on there it a- ears cost. and as you touch on there it appears that _ cost. and as you touch on there it appears that the _ cost. and as you touch on there it appears that the resistance - cost. and as you touch on there it appears that the resistance has i cost. and as you touch on there it i appears that the resistance has been much greater that may be the russian forces were first expecting but we are hearing them this that that in itself raises concern, that the response from moscow could be greater firepower, response from moscow could be greaterfirepower, indiscriminate attacks, and using a much larger weapons. what do you know about that? i weapons. what do you know about that? “ weapons. what do you know about that? ~ , .. weapons. what do you know about that? ~ , ., ., , ., ., that? i think you have illustrated a list of possibilities. _ that? i think you have illustrated a list of possibilities. as _ that? i think you have illustrated a list of possibilities. as ever - that? i think you have illustrated a list of possibilities. as ever with i list of possibilities. as ever with this crisis, ukraine is in reaction mode. you can prepare for so much, you can have an army that receives a western funding, training, equipment, but what is clear is that it is ukraine and ukraine alone mounting this defence and that is the concern. vladimir putin is using a fraction of his military might here. he is describing a so—called special military operation, the west thinks he wants to topple the government. the streets for now, in this very specific area, this very
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central area, are quiet but we still have a president, president zelensky, wandering the streets, posting videos, urging people to fight, but he is describing an onslaught that will encroach on this city. we already know that people are losing their lives. we are already seeing citizens as ever at the heart of what is happening. we have already seen a steepness in escalation that even with the most sceptical ukrainian has learned to live with the tension created by russian aggression for all these years, it has taken a lot of people by surprise and the ways we keep hearing over and over is "i cannot believe it, i cannot believe our neighbour has done this". slavic people, cultural connection, shared language, and it finds itself at the heart of such a sizeable military operation and it can only be the start. t operation and it can only be the start. ~ .. operation and it can only be the start. ~ ., i. ., . ., start. i know you were forced to take shelter— start. i know you were forced to take shelter overnight - start. i know you were forced to take shelter overnight with - start. i know you were forced to take shelter overnight with that | take shelter overnight with that threat is growing overnight. i
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wonder what people there are telling you about their options now, as that fighting gets closer. if they decide that now is the time they want to leave, can they get out? mo. that now is the time they want to leave, can they get out?- that now is the time they want to leave, can they get out? no. to be honest with — leave, can they get out? no. to be honest with you. _ leave, can they get out? no. to be honest with you. we _ leave, can they get out? no. to be honest with you. we have - leave, can they get out? no. to be honest with you. we have had - leave, can they get out? no. to be i honest with you. we have had reports of people meeting checkpoints on the outskirts of the city. ukrainian officials are warning them of bombings in certain areas. once again the air raid siren is going off but it is very difficult. the people underground, where we are about to go, are waiting. they wait for things to pass but what are they waiting for? to come up to rubble? we don't know. are we waiting to see streets filled with russian troops? what will that reception be like? these are the people who have opted to stay, thousands have managed to get out and thousands more have chosen to fight and head out with weapons. chosen to fight and head out with wea ons. , ,. chosen to fight and head out with weapons-_ we - chosen to fight and head out with weapons._ we had i chosen to fight and head out with - weapons._ we had better weapons. loud siren. we had better to, it is a
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weapons. loud siren. we had better go. it is a dark— weapons. loud siren. we had better go. it is a dark day — weapons. loud siren. we had better go, it is a dark day for _ weapons. loud siren. we had better go, it is a dark day for the _ weapons. loud siren. we had better go, it is a dark day for the city. - go, it is a dark day for the city. thank you, james, stay safe. we're joined now by chairman of the association of ukrainians in great britain, petro rewko. and member tanya klymenko, who still has family in the ukraine. when you hear those air raid sirens in your capital city, what do you feel? ., ., . , , ,, in your capital city, what do you feel? ., ., . , , ,, . . feel? emotionally distress and fear for the ukrainian _ feel? emotionally distress and fear for the ukrainian people _ feel? emotionally distress and fear for the ukrainian people having - feel? emotionally distress and fear for the ukrainian people having to| for the ukrainian people having to live through this and we are sat here _ live through this and we are sat here in— live through this and we are sat here in the _ live through this and we are sat here in the uk and it is very traumatic— here in the uk and it is very traumatic for all ukrainians in the uk at _ traumatic for all ukrainians in the uk at the — traumatic for all ukrainians in the uk at the moment.— traumatic for all ukrainians in the uk at the moment. what about when ou hear uk at the moment. what about when you hear them? _ uk at the moment. what about when you hear them? it _ uk at the moment. what about when you hear them? it is _ uk at the moment. what about when you hear them? it is chilling. - uk at the moment. what about when you hear them? it is chilling. yes, i you hear them? it is chilling. yes, and i you hear them? it is chilling. yes, and i totally _ you hear them? it is chilling. yes, and i totally relate _ you hear them? it is chilling. yes, and i totally relate to _ you hear them? it is chilling. yes, and i totally relate to that - and i totally relate to that sentiment~ _ and i totally relate to that sentiment. i— and i totally relate to that sentiment. i cannot - and i totally relate to that i sentiment. i cannot believe and i totally relate to that - sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew— sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew up— sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew up in— sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew up in the— sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew up in the soviet _ sentiment. i cannot believe it. i grew up in the soviet union. - sentiment. i cannot believe it. i- grew up in the soviet union. russian was the _ grew up in the soviet union. russian was the language _ grew up in the soviet union. russian was the language we _ grew up in the soviet union. russian was the language we learnt - grew up in the soviet union. russian was the language we learnt at - was the language we learnt at schooi~ — was the language we learnt at school. these _ was the language we learnt at school. these are _ was the language we learnt at school. these are our- was the language we learnt at - school. these are our neighbours. i did my— school. these are our neighbours. i did my final— school. these are our neighbours. i did my finalyear— school. these are our neighbours. i did my final year project _ school. these are our neighbours. i did my final year project at - did my final year project at university— did my final year project at university at— did my final year project at university at russian - did my final year project at - university at russian university. i cannot— university at russian university. i cannot believe _ university at russian university. i cannot believe it _ university at russian university. i cannot believe it is _ university at russian university. i
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cannot believe it is happening. i cannot believe it is happening. petro. — cannot believe it is happening. petro. when _ cannot believe it is happening. petro, when you _ cannot believe it is happening. petro, when you are _ cannot believe it is happening. petro, when you are here - cannot believe it is happening. petro, when you are here and| cannot believe it is happening. - petro, when you are here and looking at what is happening there, i would imagine lots of conflicting emotions about the difficulty. you want to be able to help but it is difficult to help from afar. what support are you able to offer from here? the ukrainian — able to offer from here? the ukrainian community has launched a help ukraine appeal fund just over a week ago— help ukraine appeal fund just over a week ago and that, we have linked up with world _ week ago and that, we have linked up with world health organization, aid charities— with world health organization, aid charities based in ukraine, and we are currently sending money to those aid charities— are currently sending money to those aid charities to purchase and distribute medical supplies, much—needed, food and clothing on the ground — much—needed, food and clothing on the ground where it is needed in ukraine — the ground where it is needed in ukraine and we will continue to do that _ ukraine and we will continue to do that we _ ukraine and we will continue to do that. we are also today holding protests — that. we are also today holding protests in bolton and manchester and london. peaceful protests to emphasise that the ukrainian people have not— emphasise that the ukrainian people have not started this war, the ukrainian _ have not started this war, the ukrainian people do not want this
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war _ ukrainian people do not want this war. �* ., , .. ukrainian people do not want this war. �* ., , ., , war. i'm getting lots of messages from people _ war. i'm getting lots of messages from people in — war. i'm getting lots of messages from people in this _ war. i'm getting lots of messages from people in this country - war. i'm getting lots of messages | from people in this country saying, how can we help? how can they donate to that and would you encourage them to that and would you encourage them tojoin to that and would you encourage them to join these peaceful protests? j tojoin these peaceful protests? i am glad you brought that up because i am glad you brought that up because i have _ am glad you brought that up because i have been— am glad you brought that up because i have been inundated with text messages and e—mails and so have my colleagues _ messages and e—mails and so have my colleagues. we would like to sincerely thank the uk public for their— sincerely thank the uk public for their support. their messages of support — their support. their messages of support. their offers of help. even to the _ support. their offers of help. even to the point— support. their offers of help. even to the point of offering their homes for ukrainian refugees, should they be allowed to come to the uk. if peopie _ be allowed to come to the uk. if people want to donate to our help ukraine _ people want to donate to our help ukraine appeal, they can go to our gofundme — ukraine appeal, they can go to our gofundme page and make a donation. from the _ gofundme page and make a donation. from the ukrainian community, from the bottom _ from the ukrainian community, from the bottom of our hearts, we thank the bottom of our hearts, we thank the uk _ the bottom of our hearts, we thank the uk tremendously for all their help the uk tremendously for all their heip and — the uk tremendously for all their help and support. the uk tremendously for all their help and support-— help and support. tanya, tell us about your _ help and support. tanya, tell us about your family. _ help and support. tanya, tell us about your family. whereabouts help and support. tanya, tell us - about your family. whereabouts are they and what do you know of their situation right now? j
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they and what do you know of their situation right now?— situation right now? i have a large ical situation right now? i have a large typical ukrainian _ situation right now? i have a large typical ukrainian family, _ situation right now? i have a large typical ukrainian family, so - situation right now? i have a large typical ukrainian family, so we - situation right now? i have a largej typical ukrainian family, so we are talking _ typical ukrainian family, so we are talking about _ typical ukrainian family, so we are talking about 20 _ typical ukrainian family, so we are talking about 20 people _ typical ukrainian family, so we are talking about 20 people perhaps. i talking about 20 people perhaps. that is _ talking about 20 people perhaps. that is a — talking about 20 people perhaps. that is a beautiful— talking about 20 people perhaps. that is a beautiful picture. - talking about 20 people perhaps. that is a beautiful picture. they. that is a beautiful picture. they are in central— that is a beautiful picture. they are in central ukraine _ that is a beautiful picture. they are in central ukraine and - that is a beautiful picture. they are in central ukraine and in eastern— are in central ukraine and in eastern ukraine. _ are in central ukraine and in eastern ukraine. they- are in central ukraine and in eastern ukraine. they are i are in central ukraine and inj eastern ukraine. they are in kharkiv~ _ eastern ukraine. they are in kharkiv~ in— eastern ukraine. they are in kharkiv. in central— eastern ukraine. they are in kharkiv. in central ukraine, i eastern ukraine. they are in . kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning — kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning i— kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning i texted _ kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning i texted them - kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning i texted them and - kharkiv. in central ukraine, this morning i texted them and my. kharkiv. in central ukraine, this- morning i texted them and my mum said she _ morning i texted them and my mum said she has — morning i texted them and my mum said she has gone _ morning i texted them and my mum said she has gone to— morning i texted them and my mum said she has gone to church - morning i texted them and my mum said she has gone to church and - morning i texted them and my mum said she has gone to church and dad is in the _ said she has gone to church and dad is in the basement _ said she has gone to church and dad is in the basement because - said she has gone to church and dad is in the basement because they- said she has gone to church and dadj is in the basement because they had a drill— is in the basement because they had a drill yesterday. _ is in the basement because they had a drill yesterday, this— is in the basement because they had a drill yesterday, this air— is in the basement because they had a drill yesterday, this air siren - a drill yesterday, this air siren and _ a drill yesterday, this air siren and they— a drill yesterday, this air siren and they realised _ a drill yesterday, this air siren and they realised they- a drill yesterday, this air siren and they realised they have i a drill yesterday, this air sireni and they realised they have the biggest — and they realised they have the biggest basement— and they realised they have the biggest basement so— and they realised they have the biggest basement so he - and they realised they have the biggest basement so he is- and they realised they have the i biggest basement so he is clearing it to have — biggest basement so he is clearing it to have a — biggest basement so he is clearing it to have a bomb _ biggest basement so he is clearing it to have a bomb shelter- biggest basement so he is clearing it to have a bomb shelter for- it to have a bomb shelter for neighbours _ it to have a bomb shelter for neighbours. so _ it to have a bomb shelter for neighbours— it to have a bomb shelter for neighbours. it to have a bomb shelter for neiuhbours. , , neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come _ neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come and _ neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come and use _ neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come and use it, - neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come and use it, as - neighbours. so neighbours will be able to come and use it, as well. | able to come and use it, as well. yes, because they don't have a large enough _ yes, because they don't have a large enough basement. _ yes, because they don't have a large enough basement. they— yes, because they don't have a large enough basement. they have - yes, because they don't have a large enough basement. they have youngl enough basement. they have young children— enough basement. they have young children and — enough basement. they have young children and one _ enough basement. they have young children and one of _ enough basement. they have young children and one of them _ enough basement. they have young children and one of them is - enough basement. they have young children and one of them is in - enough basement. they have young children and one of them is in a - children and one of them is in a wheelchair— children and one of them is in a wheelchair so _ children and one of them is in a wheelchair so they— children and one of them is in a wheelchair so they need - children and one of them is in a wheelchair so they need a - children and one of them is in a i wheelchair so they need a bigger space~ _ wheelchair so they need a bigger space~ so — wheelchair so they need a bigger sace. y wheelchair so they need a bigger sace. , ., ., wheelchair so they need a bigger sace. , . ., .. wheelchair so they need a bigger sace. , . ., ., , space. so they are going to stay. the are space. so they are going to stay. they are going — space. so they are going to stay. they are going to _ space. so they are going to stay. they are going to stay _ space. so they are going to stay. they are going to stay in - space. so they are going to stay.
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they are going to stay in my - they are going to stay in my parents' _ they are going to stay in my parents' basement - they are going to stay in my parents' basement if- they are going to stay in my parents' basement if the - they are going to stay in my. parents' basement if the siren they are going to stay in my- parents' basement if the siren goes. have they— parents' basement if the siren goes. have they had — parents' basement if the siren goes. have they had any— parents' basement if the siren goes. have they had any conversations - have they had any conversations about leaving? mr; have they had any conversations about leaving?— have they had any conversations about leaving? my parents want to leave -- at — about leaving? my parents want to leave -- at my _ about leaving? my parents want to leave -- at my parents _ about leaving? my parents want to leave -- at my parents do - about leaving? my parents want to leave -- at my parents do not - about leaving? my parents want to | leave -- at my parents do not want leave —— at my parents do not want to leave _ leave —— at my parents do not want to leave 00 — leave -- at my parents do not want to leave. ,, leave -- at my parents do not want to leave. i. . ., leave -- at my parents do not want to leave. , ., . ., . to leave. do you want them to leave? it is to leave. do you want them to leave? it is difficult- — to leave. do you want them to leave? it is difficult. i — to leave. do you want them to leave? it is difficult. i am _ to leave. do you want them to leave? it is difficult. i am extremely - it is difficult. i am extremely stressed _ it is difficult. i am extremely stressed by— it is difficult. i am extremely stressed by the _ it is difficult. i am extremely stressed by the situation - it is difficult. i am extremelyj stressed by the situation and it is difficult. i am extremely. stressed by the situation and as it is difficult. i am extremely- stressed by the situation and as you said it _ stressed by the situation and as you said it is _ stressed by the situation and as you said it is so — stressed by the situation and as you said it is so painful— stressed by the situation and as you said it is so painful not— stressed by the situation and as you said it is so painful not being - stressed by the situation and as you said it is so painful not being able i said it is so painful not being able to heip _ said it is so painful not being able to heip from _ said it is so painful not being able to help from afar— said it is so painful not being able to help from afar but _ said it is so painful not being able to help from afar but they - said it is so painful not being able to help from afar but they have i to help from afar but they have lived _ to help from afar but they have lived their— to help from afar but they have lived their lives _ to help from afar but they have lived their lives there, - to help from afar but they have lived their lives there, they- to help from afar but they have lived their lives there, they say who is— lived their lives there, they say who is going _ lived their lives there, they say who is going to— lived their lives there, they say who is going to attend - lived their lives there, they say who is going to attend those i lived their lives there, they say- who is going to attend those graves we are _ who is going to attend those graves we are attending? _ who is going to attend those graves we are attending? it— who is going to attend those graves we are attending? it is— who is going to attend those graves we are attending? it is like - who is going to attend those graves we are attending? it is like they. we are attending? it is like they would _ we are attending? it is like they would like — we are attending? it is like they would like their— we are attending? it is like they would like their country- we are attending? it is like they would like their country to - we are attending? it is like they would like their country to go i we are attending? it is like they. would like their country to go back to normal — would like their country to go back to normal they— would like their country to go back to normal. they are _ would like their country to go back to normal. they are not _ would like their country to go back to normal. they are not looking i would like their country to go back to normal. they are not looking to fleei _ to normal. they are not looking to flee. they — to normal. they are not looking to flee. they are _ to normal. they are not looking to flee, they are looking _ to normal. they are not looking to flee, they are looking to _ to normal. they are not looking to flee, they are looking to see - flee, they are looking to see ukraine _ flee, they are looking to see ukraine going _ flee, they are looking to see ukraine going back- flee, they are looking to see ukraine going back to - flee, they are looking to see i ukraine going back to normal flee, they are looking to see - ukraine going back to normal and this situation— ukraine going back to normal and this situation resolving. _ ukraine going back to normal and this situation resolving.— ukraine going back to normal and this situation resolving. petro, we s-oke this situation resolving. petro, we spoke earlier— this situation resolving. petro, we spoke earlier to _ this situation resolving. petro, we spoke earlier to two _ this situation resolving. petro, we spoke earlier to two residents - this situation resolving. petro, we spoke earlier to two residents of. spoke earlier to two residents of odesa and they were telling us about the practical realities. forgive me if it sounds flippant but it seems easy to leave when there is a danger like that, threat to your life, but
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they said there are so many reasons they said there are so many reasons they can't, not least because they have family, friends, business, jobs, home, lives there. what are you hearing from people about that debate they are having to have with themselves about leaving all that behind? and finding somewhere safe. the ukrainian people are very hard and resolute. rememberthey the ukrainian people are very hard and resolute. remember they came through— and resolute. remember they came through the soviet era, survived, they survived the forced famine of 1932. _ they survived the forced famine of 1932, 1933, when millions were starved — 1932, 1933, when millions were starved to— 1932, 1933, when millions were starved to death. ukrainians want to live in— starved to death. ukrainians want to live in ukraine, it is their country _ live in ukraine, it is their country. my cousins and the cousins of my— country. my cousins and the cousins of my wife. — country. my cousins and the cousins of my wife, they do not want to leave. — of my wife, they do not want to leave, they want to live in the country — leave, they want to live in the country where they were born and let's remember this is a crime against — let's remember this is a crime against ukraine, against peace in europe _ against ukraine, against peace in europe and against democracy. and ukrainians— europe and against democracy. and ukrainiansjust want to europe and against democracy. and ukrainians just want to live a peaceful— ukrainians just want to live a peaceful life in their own country and i_ peaceful life in their own country and i have — peaceful life in their own country and i have to endorse what tanya
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says. _ and i have to endorse what tanya says. it _ and i have to endorse what tanya says. it is — and i have to endorse what tanya says, it is very difficult to convince _ says, it is very difficult to convince them to leave because that is their— convince them to leave because that is their home and where their home has been _ is their home and where their home has been. ~ , . .. is their home and where their home has been. ~ , , ., , . has been. why should they leave? on the other hand, _ has been. why should they leave? on the other hand, your— has been. why should they leave? on the other hand, your parents, - has been. why should they leave? on the other hand, your parents, if- the other hand, your parents, if russia prevails, how will your mum and dad feel about living in their country under a leader potentially installed by president putin? it is installed by president putin? it is auoin to installed by president putin? it is going to be _ installed by president putin? it is going to be awful. my mum comes from a family— going to be awful. my mum comes from a family of— going to be awful. my mum comes from a family of survivors, _ going to be awful. my mum comes from a family of survivors, their— going to be awful. my mum comes from a family of survivors, their parents - a family of survivors, their parents were _ a family of survivors, their parents were starved — a family of survivors, their parents were starved as _ a family of survivors, their parents were starved as children, - a family of survivors, their parents were starved as children, they- a family of survivors, their parents i were starved as children, they dived but their— were starved as children, they dived but their siblings _ were starved as children, they dived but their siblings died. _ were starved as children, they dived but their siblings died. these - but their siblings died. these tragedies. _ but their siblings died. these tragedies, they— but their siblings died. these tragedies, they stay- but their siblings died. these tragedies, they stay in - but their siblings died. these - tragedies, they stay in generational memory _ tragedies, they stay in generational memory my— tragedies, they stay in generational memory. my parents _ tragedies, they stay in generational memory. my parents would - tragedies, they stay in generational memory. my parents would not - tragedies, they stay in generationall memory. my parents would not like, of course. _ memory. my parents would not like, of course. any — memory. my parents would not like, of course, any sort _ memory. my parents would not like, of course, any sort of _ memory. my parents would not like, of course, any sort of oppression - memory. my parents would not like, of course, any sort of oppression ori of course, any sort of oppression or tyranny. _ of course, any sort of oppression or tyranny. but — of course, any sort of oppression or tyranny, but particularly— of course, any sort of oppression or tyranny, but particularly the - of course, any sort of oppression or tyranny, but particularly the sort. tyranny, but particularly the sort which _ tyranny, but particularly the sort which we — tyranny, but particularly the sort which we know— tyranny, but particularly the sort which we know the _ tyranny, but particularly the sort which we know the kremlin - tyranny, but particularly the sort which we know the kremlin can i which we know the kremlin can impose — which we know the kremlin can im-ose. ~ ., which we know the kremlin can im-ose. ~ . .. which we know the kremlin can im-ose. ~ . ., , impose. what sort of help your -arents impose. what sort of help your parents have — impose. what sort of help your
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parents have there? _ impose. what sort of help your. parents have there? i know your cousins are relatively nearby but it is not easy to get around, is it, right now? it is not easy to get around, is it, right now?— is not easy to get around, is it, right now? it is not. my cousins live in kharkiv, _ right now? it is not. my cousins live in kharkiv, which _ right now? it is not. my cousins live in kharkiv, which is - right now? it is not. my cousins live in kharkiv, which is under i live in kharkiv, which is under siege — live in kharkiv, which is under siege for— live in kharkiv, which is under siege for the _ live in kharkiv, which is under siege for the last _ live in kharkiv, which is under siege for the last two - live in kharkiv, which is under siege for the last two days, i siege for the last two days, basically _ siege for the last two days, basically. ukraine - siege for the last two days, basically. ukraine is - siege for the last two days, basically. ukraine is a - siege for the last two days, j basically. ukraine is a large country. _ basically. ukraine is a large country. so _ basically. ukraine is a large country, so it— basically. ukraine is a large country, so it is— basically. ukraine is a large country, so it is about - basically. ukraine is a large country, so it is about 400| basically. ukraine is a large - country, so it is about 400 miles, the nearest. — country, so it is about 400 miles, the nearest, and _ country, so it is about 400 miles, the nearest, and they— country, so it is about 400 miles, the nearest, and they are - country, so it is about 400 miles, the nearest, and they are very- the nearest, and they are very self-reliant. _ the nearest, and they are very self—reliant, they— the nearest, and they are very self—reliant, they grow- the nearest, and they are very- self—reliant, they grow vegetables, they pick— self—reliant, they grow vegetables, they pick mushrooms. _ self—reliant, they grow vegetables, they pick mushrooms. they- self—reliant, they grow vegetables, they pick mushrooms. they are - self—reliant, they grow vegetables, they pick mushrooms. they are not requiring _ they pick mushrooms. they are not requiring help. _ they pick mushrooms. they are not requiring help. they— they pick mushrooms. they are not requiring help, theyjust _ they pick mushrooms. they are not requiring help, theyjust require - requiring help, theyjust require peace — requiring help, they 'ust require eace. .. requiring help, they 'ust require eace. ., ~' ., requiring help, they 'ust require eace. ., ~ ., . peace. you will know that your president _ peace. you will know that your president has _ peace. you will know that your president has encouraged - peace. you will know that your i president has encouraged people peace. you will know that your - president has encouraged people to prepare molotov cocktails, wants people to fight. thousands of automatic weapons have been handed out. i mean... and we have interviewed people, ukrainians, saying "i will fight, i have never picked up a gun that i will fight".
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that is the definition of courage, isn't it? ~ ,,.. that is the definition of courage, isn't it? ~ ,,., _, . that is the definition of courage, isn't it? ~ , . . that is the definition of courage, isn't it? ~ . . isn't it? absolute courage and as the ukrainian _ isn't it? absolute courage and as the ukrainian national— isn't it? absolute courage and as the ukrainian national anthem i isn't it? absolute courage and as i the ukrainian national anthem says, i will the ukrainian national anthem says, i will give _ the ukrainian national anthem says, i will give my body and my soul for my freedom. 50 i will give my body and my soul for my freedom-— i will give my body and my soul for my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh. it my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh- it is— my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh. it is difficult _ my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh. it is difficult for _ my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh. it is difficult for us _ my freedom. so moving, honestly. gosh. it is difficult for us and - gosh. it is difficult for us and this is becoming _ gosh. it is difficult for us and this is becoming quite - gosh. it is difficult for us and - this is becoming quite emotional, i am sorry — this is becoming quite emotional, i am sorry. do this is becoming quite emotional, i am sor . .. this is becoming quite emotional, i amsor . ., . ., , this is becoming quite emotional, i am sorry-— it - this is becoming quite emotional, i am sorry-— it is i am sorry. do not apologise. it is heart-wrenching _ am sorry. do not apologise. it is heart-wrenching to _ am sorry. do not apologise. it is heart-wrenching to watch - am sorry. do not apologise. it is heart-wrenching to watch this i am sorry. do not apologise. it is i heart-wrenching to watch this war heart—wrenching to watch this war unfold _ heart—wrenching to watch this war unfold over — heart—wrenching to watch this war unfold over the last few days. when i unfold over the last few days. when i awoke _ unfold over the last few days. when i awoke to _ unfold over the last few days. when i awoke to a — unfold over the last few days. when i awoke to a text message from my son in— i awoke to a text message from my son in canada and he said, i don't believe _ son in canada and he said, i don't believe this — son in canada and he said, i don't believe this could happen in my lifetime" — believe this could happen in my lifetime." i awoke to that text and from _ lifetime." i awoke to that text and from then— lifetime." i awoke to that text and from then on it has been this roller—coaster of days merging together, meetings of the community and the _ together, meetings of the community and the association, how we can continue — and the association, how we can continue to— and the association, how we can continue to help, massive interviews with yourself and other media and everything this week seems to have merged _ everything this week seems to have merged into one and i cannot remember when merged into one and i cannot rememberwhen i did merged into one and i cannot remember when i did the last interview— remember when i did the last interview with someone else. it is
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all in _ interview with someone else. it is all in the — interview with someone else. it is all in the head now and it is becoming more and more difficult because _ becoming more and more difficult because we are seeing how it is unfolding — because we are seeing how it is unfolding and the verge of the russian — unfolding and the verge of the russian army taking over kyiv. thank ou to ou russian army taking over kyiv. thank you to you both _ russian army taking over kyiv. thank you to you both for _ russian army taking over kyiv. thank you to you both for coming _ russian army taking over kyiv. thank you to you both for coming in. - russian army taking over kyiv. thank you to you both for coming in. we i you to you both for coming in. we wish you and your family all the best and thank you for sharing those stories, thank you both, petro and tanya. stories, thank you both, petro and tan a. ., ~ stories, thank you both, petro and tan a. . ,, stories, thank you both, petro and tanya-_ thank- stories, thank you both, petro and tanya._ thank you. - stories, thank you both, petro and| tanya._ thank you. let's tanya. thank you. thank you. let's brina you the weather. a big area of high ressure you the weather. a big area of high pressure stretching _ you the weather. a big area of high pressure stretching across - you the weather. a big area of high pressure stretching across from - pressure stretching across from western europe into the uk has put the brakes on the stormy conditions heading into our shores. this weekend it will be sunny for many, that was beautiful or castle in cornwall a short time ago. here is the high on the pressure quite, bitter competition from the weather front trying to squeeze into the north—west and we could take a good look at that on our satellite picture. the front is a bit broken up picture. the front is a bit broken up so they will be sunny spells across scotland and northern ireland but not the faultless blue skies we have a further south across england
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and wales. england and wales, lots more sunshine to come through the day to scotland and northern ireland essentially dry, perhaps a bit of thick cloud bringing drizzly rain to the hills and mountains of the west of scotland, pretty good around the moray firth rates in up to 12 degrees, similar across england and wales. through the evening and overnight, clearskies wales. through the evening and overnight, clear skies becoming a little more widespread, stretching into southern and central scotland and the wind relatively light, a fairly widespread frost. these are the temperatures in towns and cities, in rural areas definitely closer to freezing. aside from western scotland and northern ireland, the blanket of cloud keeps things milder. the cloud in play again on sunday, brighter sunny spells for it northern ireland, drizzly rain. but across scotland, particularly western isles, windy with gusts up to a0 mph. if anything, so chinese and widespread. temperatures tomorrow for all down to a degree or so am today. sunday
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into monday the hi slips away and we will see low pressure returning to our shows. will see low pressure returning to ourshows. risk will see low pressure returning to our shows. risk of gates for scotland but the wind should not be anywhere near as destructive as some of the systems we have seen recently. the biggest question, where will the rain we have used and during which part of the day? at the moment it looks like this will be across western england and wales and transfer feather eastwards as we head into the evening and overnight. when you see the weather fronts that buckles like that, it makes placing the timings, predicting behaviour, somewhat more difficult. on tuesday, looks like it is pushing off to the low countries but a chance we can see why cloud and a bit more rain hanging back across the south—east of england. for tuesday, for the majority, it looks like high pressure will build in and we should see a day bringing some widespread sunshine, highs of 9 or 10.
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hello, this is breakfast with ben thompson and victoria derbyshire. very good morning to you, it is just after 9:30am. we will bring you up—to—date with all the latest events from ukraine overnight. without putting troops into ukraine, one of the hardest ways for the west to hit russia would be to ban it from the swift payment network. the uk has already called for that to happen, but so far failed to get the agreement of other countries, including germany. but what exactly is swift? here's our business correspondent katie prescott to explain. swift can be described as an artery of global finance. it allows the smooth and quick transfer of money across borders. it stands for the society for worldwide interbank swift can be described as an artery of global finance. it allows the smooth and quick transfer of money across borders.
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it stands for the society for worldwide interbank financial telecommunication, and it is co—owned by more than 2000 financial institutions around the world. created in 1973, it links 11,000 banks in more than 200 countries. it sends more than a0 million messages a day. over 1% of those are thought to involve russian payments. stopping russia using the swift system for financial transactions could have painful consequences for both sides. it could make life very difficult for russian banks and for businesses who are trying to get paid for their goods. but that, of course, works both ways. so, for example, for western companies trying to buy russian oil and gas, they could find it very disruptive. you have germany, which is very dependent on russian gas. you've also got italy, very dependent. but you have got france, for example, which has nuclear and is dependent a lot less on russian gas, and the same with the uk. so there is a bit of a split in terms of whether one really wants to stop that flow from taking place, and obviously if you get the russians out of swift, then that flow stops, because they won't get paid, and that is a big, big issue which i don't think the europeans are quite ready to move to.
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so, many world leaders, like the us presidentjoe biden, say their preference is for different sanctions, because of the hit to other countries' economies of banning russia from swift. katie prescott, bbc news. our correspondentjonah fisherjoins us now. he spent four years in ukraine until october last year, so we thought it would be a good idea to ask him to answer some of the questions you've been sending in. let's go through some of the questions now. this first was sent in to us by martyn on twitter. good question, i do not think many people _ good question, i do not think many people expected it to happen in the first place, even when we saw that hi i first place, even when we saw that big military— first place, even when we saw that big military build—up on the border, people _ big military build—up on the border, people did — big military build—up on the border, people did not expect vladimir putin to -o people did not expect vladimir putin to go through with this. so we are not very— to go through with this. so we are not very good at predicting what president putin will do next. who knows _ president putin will do next. who knows what might happen? bit at the
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moment. _ knows what might happen? bit at the moment, there seems to be a ukraine issuei _ moment, there seems to be a ukraine issue, long—standing issue, related to vladimir— issue, long—standing issue, related to vladimir putin's belief that basically— to vladimir putin's belief that basically ukraine should still be under— basically ukraine should still be under the orbit controlled by russia and he _ under the orbit controlled by russia and he is _ under the orbit controlled by russia and he is rectifying what he sees as and he is rectifying what he sees as a historical— and he is rectifying what he sees as a historical mistake. so and he is rectifying what he sees as a historical mistake.— and he is rectifying what he sees as a historical mistake. so the west so the are a historical mistake. so the west so they are imposing — a historical mistake. so the west so they are imposing sanctions - a historical mistake. so the west so they are imposing sanctions and - a historical mistake. so the west so | they are imposing sanctions and that should put pressure on moscow to change its course of action, this next question was given to us by paul. t next question was given to us by paul ~ next question was given to us by paul. ~ . next question was given to us by paul. ~' , . . .. , . . paul. i think there is an acceptance that even the _ paul. i think there is an acceptance that even the most _ paul. i think there is an acceptance that even the most severe - paul. i think there is an acceptancej that even the most severe sections that even the most severe sections that are _ that even the most severe sections that are in — that even the most severe sections that are in place will not have an immediate — that are in place will not have an immediate effect, they will not change — immediate effect, they will not change what happens today, tomorrow, next week— change what happens today, tomorrow, next week in _ change what happens today, tomorrow, next week in ukraine, but vladimir putin— next week in ukraine, but vladimir putin having made this decision, he will not _ putin having made this decision, he will not be — putin having made this decision, he will not be swayed by such economic considerations. i think we can move that to _ considerations. i think we can move that to one — considerations. i think we can move that to one side, the pain of that will only— that to one side, the pain of that will only be felt in a period of time — will only be felt in a period of time as— will only be felt in a period of time. as to whether there might be boots _ time. as to whether there might be boots on _ time. as to whether there might be boots on the ground from other countries — boots on the ground from other countries commit it appears a
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complete _ countries commit it appears a complete nonstarter. nato, britain, everyone— complete nonstarter. nato, britain, everyone has made it clear there is no prospect— everyone has made it clear there is no prospect of them sending troops. military— no prospect of them sending troops. military equipment, yes, we hear about— military equipment, yes, we hear about more military equipment promised to ukraine and if ukraine lost there — promised to ukraine and if ukraine lost there would probably be equipment provided to support a resistance, but the idea of britain, anyone _ resistance, but the idea of britain, anyone sending forces to fight in ukraine. — anyone sending forces to fight in ukraine, that does not seem to be even _ ukraine, that does not seem to be even a _ ukraine, that does not seem to be even a remote prospect. is ukraine, that does not seem to be even a remote prospect.— ukraine, that does not seem to be even a remote prospect. is going to sa , that even a remote prospect. is going to say. that is _ even a remote prospect. is going to say. that is the — even a remote prospect. is going to say, that is the idea _ even a remote prospect. is going to say, that is the idea that _ even a remote prospect. is going to say, that is the idea that military i say, that is the idea that military equipment into ukraine, but maybe some troops on the order of nato? absolutely, the line has been drawn and that— absolutely, the line has been drawn and that line unluckily for ukraine is to the _ and that line unluckily for ukraine is to the west. that is why we have seen _ is to the west. that is why we have seen reinforcements being made a lot in nato _ seen reinforcements being made a lot in nato over— seen reinforcements being made a lot in nato over the last several days and weeks — in nato over the last several days and weeks. they are reinforcing eastern — and weeks. they are reinforcing eastern europe, not reinforcing ukraine — eastern europe, not reinforcing ukraine. �* . eastern europe, not reinforcing ukraine. �* , . ., , ukraine. because if nato put troops from member— ukraine. because if nato put troops from member nations _ ukraine. because if nato put troops
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from member nations into - ukraine. because if nato put troops from member nations into ukraine, j from member nations into ukraine, and that is essentially, as heappey the armed forces minister was telling us, that is like as declaring war on russia and no one wants that?— wants that? absolutely and it is far too bi a wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step- _ wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step. that _ wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step. that is _ wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step. that is why - wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step. that is why we - wants that? absolutely and it is far too big a step. that is why we are l too big a step. that is why we are not trying — too big a step. that is why we are not trying to — too big a step. that is why we are not trying to introduce a no fly zone. — not trying to introduce a no fly zone. that _ not trying to introduce a no fly zone, that has been mentioned a lot. the answer— zone, that has been mentioned a lot. the answer why not is the minute you shoot _ the answer why not is the minute you shoot down _ the answer why not is the minute you shoot down a — the answer why not is the minute you shoot down a russian plane that you are at _ shoot down a russian plane that you are at war— shoot down a russian plane that you are at war with russia and that is not something people want to contemplate. not something people want to contemplate-— not something people want to contemplate. not something people want to contem-late. .. . ., . .. contemplate. you have touched on this already. _ contemplate. you have touched on this already, but _ contemplate. you have touched on this already, but i _ contemplate. you have touched on this already, but i want _ contemplate. you have touched on this already, but i want to - contemplate. you have touched on this already, but i want to put - contemplate. you have touched on this already, but i want to put it i this already, but i want to put it to use simply,...j this already, but i want to put it to use simply,...— to use simply,... i think realistically, _ to use simply,... i think realistically, once - to use simply,... i think- realistically, once president putin has decided to do something and what he has _ has decided to do something and what he has decided to do in relation to ukraine _ he has decided to do in relation to ukraine is— he has decided to do in relation to ukraine is a — he has decided to do in relation to ukraine is a very big call, brave seems — ukraine is a very big call, brave seems too _ ukraine is a very big call, brave seems too positive a word, but a massive — seems too positive a word, but a massive call to have made this decision — massive call to have made this decision. whatever the west does, i think most— decision. whatever the west does, i think most people think he will follow— think most people think he will follow through on that. the tragic thing _ follow through on that. the tragic
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thing for— follow through on that. the tragic thing for ukraine as they seem to be resisting _ thing for ukraine as they seem to be resisting well, fighting back strongly, but once president putin has decided to do something, history shows— has decided to do something, history shows us— has decided to do something, history shows us once he sets his mind on something. — shows us once he sets his mind on something, he will simply push harder— something, he will simply push harder and it will be more brutal, more _ harder and it will be more brutal, more bloody, he will not stop until he reaches — more bloody, he will not stop until he reaches his goal. whatever the cost _ he reaches his goal. whatever the cost. . . . he reaches his goal. whatever the cost. , , , ., cost. experts seem to say the most effective way — cost. experts seem to say the most effective way of — cost. experts seem to say the most effective way of putting _ cost. experts seem to say the most effective way of putting pressure i cost. experts seem to say the most| effective way of putting pressure on putin as if europe could stop taking its gas and oil from russia putin as if europe could stop taking its gas and oilfrom russia because a0% of our suppliers come to europe from russia, although in the uk we are much lower than that. if we could wean ourselves off that, that would hurt them financially. that is the awkward _ would hurt them financially. that is the awkward situation _ would hurt them financially. that is the awkward situation that - would hurt them financially. that is the awkward situation that europe. would hurt them financially. that is | the awkward situation that europe is in, germany is in, that it is to a large— in, germany is in, that it is to a large part— in, germany is in, that it is to a large part of— in, germany is in, that it is to a large part of russian gas keeping everyone — large part of russian gas keeping everyone warm this winter. it is a massive _ everyone warm this winter. it is a massive decision to decide to cut that off. — massive decision to decide to cut that off, and the price is notjust
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in the _ that off, and the price is notjust in the eu — that off, and the price is notjust in the eu that takes 40% of gas, but in the eu that takes 40% of gas, but in the _ in the eu that takes 40% of gas, but inthe uk— in the eu that takes 40% of gas, but inthe ukwe— in the eu that takes 40% of gas, but in the uk we would see it as well, -as in the uk we would see it as well, gas prices — in the uk we would see it as well, gas prices suddenly spike. we are in this rather— gas prices suddenly spike. we are in this rather horrible position that we are _ this rather horrible position that we are effectively paying for this war due — we are effectively paying for this war due to our purchase of gas. that is the irony. — war due to our purchase of gas. that is the irony, because _ war due to our purchase of gas. trust is the irony, because of the crisis, the prices have shot up, we pay russia for their oil and gas and that helps him continue to fund the war. although he has $600 billion of reserves, we are told. taste war. although he has $600 billion of reserves, we are told.— reserves, we are told. we are also told that the _ reserves, we are told. we are also told that the countries _ reserves, we are told. we are also told that the countries will - reserves, we are told. we are also told that the countries will look i reserves, we are told. we are also told that the countries will look to | told that the countries will look to diversify resources of energy but we know that takes time. however much we may want to wean ourselves off russian oil and gas, there is not a viable alternative source immediately.— viable alternative source immediately. viable alternative source immediatel. ., ., , immediately. you cannot 'ust start these things— immediately. you cannot 'ust start these things and h immediately. you cannot 'ust start these things and create _ immediately. you cannotjust start these things and create this - immediately. you cannotjust start i these things and create this amount of energy— these things and create this amount of energyjust overnight. anything, there _ of energyjust overnight. anything, there is— of energyjust overnight. anything, there is a _ of energyjust overnight. anything, there is a debate that goes on of whether— there is a debate that goes on of whether we should restart fracking or be _ whether we should restart fracking or be investing much more in renewables at this point, anything does not _
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renewables at this point, anything does not solve the problem for this yeari _ does not solve the problem for this year. it— does not solve the problem for this year, it would be several years until— year, it would be several years until anything like that, but i think— until anything like that, but i think this _ until anything like that, but i think this whole experience has reinforced to people that we do have start looking at ways to not be so dependent on russian gas and look at other options. dependent on russian gas and look at other options-— other options. another question is. . . as other options. another question is... as i said _ other options. another question is... as i said before, _ other options. another question is... as i said before, it - other options. another question is... as i said before, it is - other options. another question is... as i said before, it is hard| is... as i said before, it is hard to see how— is... as i said before, it is hard to see how this _ is... as i said before, it is hard to see how this ends _ is... as i said before, it is hard to see how this ends in - is... as i said before, it is hard to see how this ends in a - is... as i said before, it is hard to see how this ends in a way i to see how this ends in a way which _ to see how this ends in a way which... president putin kelly wants is to be _ which... president putin kelly wants is to be a _ which... president putin kelly wants is to be a military victory and will not stop— is to be a military victory and will not stop until he has decided in what _ not stop until he has decided in what he — not stop until he has decided in what he sees as an end goal. —— putin— what he sees as an end goal. —— putin clearly— what he sees as an end goal. —— putin clearly wanted to be a military— putin clearly wanted to be a military victory. this could be a pivotal — military victory. this could be a pivotal moment in president putin's korea. _ pivotal moment in president putin's korea. a _ pivotal moment in president putin's korea, a decision he may end up regretting — korea, a decision he may end up regretting it because it is a huge call and — regretting it because it is a huge
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call and could go disastrously really — call and could go disastrously really wrong. —— putin's career. tiktok. — really wrong. —— putin's career. tiktok, people are changing to the flags of the ukrainian flag. cut colours. t flags of the ukrainian flag. cut colours. ~ .,, flags of the ukrainian flag. cut colours. ~ . ., . colours. i think most rational --eole, colours. i think most rational people. having _ colours. i think most rational people, having seen - colours. i think most rational people, having seen what. colours. i think most rational| people, having seen what has happened now, would see there was diplomatic— happened now, would see there was diplomatic manoeuvring and this is about— diplomatic manoeuvring and this is about something much more fundamental which putin has talked about— fundamental which putin has talked about for— fundamental which putin has talked about for a very long time, he does not believe — about for a very long time, he does not believe ukraine should exist as in independent country, that it is a historic— in independent country, that it is a historic mistake. he sees them as being _ historic mistake. he sees them as being effectively they should be part of—
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being effectively they should be part of russia or part of a rebuilt russian — part of russia or part of a rebuilt russian empire and that does appear to quite _ russian empire and that does appear to quite possibly hit his end goal, to quite possibly hit his end goal, to pull— to quite possibly hit his end goal, to pull ukraine right back into russia's— to pull ukraine right back into russia's orbit. we to pull ukraine right back into russia's orbit.— to pull ukraine right back into russia's orbit. ~ . , . , russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning — russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning of _ russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning of a _ russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning of a block _ russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning of a block of _ russia's orbit. we have seen images this morning of a block of flats - this morning of a block of flats being attacked, we know no one was killed and we do not know much about how it was attacked what it was that struck the building, but the question that has come from my court this morning, he says why have they not put a no—fly zone over ukraine? they have done it before, why not now? what we know about any of the strategy around this?— strategy around this? when they say wh have strategy around this? when they say why have they. _ strategy around this? when they say why have they. l— strategy around this? when they say why have they, i think _ strategy around this? when they say why have they, i think he _ strategy around this? when they say why have they, i think he means - why have they, i think he means nato. _ why have they, i think he means nato, britain? the simple reason is, if you _ nato, britain? the simple reason is, if you try— nato, britain? the simple reason is, if you try and — nato, britain? the simple reason is, if you try and enforce a no—fly zone. — if you try and enforce a no—fly zone. you _ if you try and enforce a no—fly zone, you have to be willing to shoot — zone, you have to be willing to shoot down planes that are flying in that no-fly — shoot down planes that are flying in that no—fly zone and the minute you shoot _ that no—fly zone and the minute you shoot down — that no—fly zone and the minute you shoot down russian plane, you are at war with _ shoot down russian plane, you are at war with russia, so that is the
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reason — war with russia, so that is the reason why people are holding back from what _ reason why people are holding back from what would be massive. do we know how many _ from what would be massive. do we know how many ukrainians - from what would be massive. do we know how many ukrainians are - from what would be massive. do we know how many ukrainians are still| know how many ukrainians are still in ukraine, asks one tiktok user and how many are leaving? it is estimated millions will be displaced with no home, no country.— estimated millions will be displaced with no home, no country. there have been hue with no home, no country. there have been huge queues _ with no home, no country. there have been huge queues at _ with no home, no country. there have been huge queues at the _ with no home, no country. there have been huge queues at the border, - been huge queues at the border, people _ been huge queues at the border, people trying to cross into poland, 150.000 _ people trying to cross into poland, 150,000 being mentioned, people having _ 150,000 being mentioned, people having to — 150,000 being mentioned, people having to queue for hour after hour after— having to queue for hour after hour after hour. — having to queue for hour after hour after hour, so there is a limit to how— after hour, so there is a limit to how many— after hour, so there is a limit to how many people can cross at any one time _ how many people can cross at any one time at _ how many people can cross at any one time at the _ how many people can cross at any one time. at the moment, we have not seen _ time. at the moment, we have not seen a _ time. at the moment, we have not seen a city— time. at the moment, we have not seen a city is — time. at the moment, we have not seen a city is being taken, we have seen _ seen a city is being taken, we have seen gf_ seen a city is being taken, we have seen gf being slowly encroached upon. _ seen gf being slowly encroached upon. but — seen gf being slowly encroached upon, but the main cities are still in ukrainian— upon, but the main cities are still in ukrainian control. —— cities slowly— in ukrainian control. —— cities slowly encroached upon. potentially this could _ slowly encroached upon. potentially this could run into millions if
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there — this could run into millions if there cities are taken.- this could run into millions if there cities are taken. thank you very much- _ tens of thousands of ukrainian people are on the move in search of safety and shelter. the un puts the figure at 100,000 to have left their homes so far. many are heading to the neighbouring countries of poland, romania and hungary. our correspondent nick thorpe is in eastern hungary, near the border. when you are with us a little earlier we saw lots of people on the move, pulling bags behind them. tell us may be some of the stories that you have been meeting this morning. yes, these have been people who are coming across this board are behind me. you can seejust in coming across this board are behind me. you can see just in the far background there. people are saying some of them are crossing from the largely hungarian speaking areas on
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the far side, but today increasingly we are hearing more and more people that have driven large distances across ukraine, often by menfolk who are not allowed to cross the border. it is still very difficult to get across it by vehicle, very few are travelling across. once they get here, they are standing at the roadside, i have seen families waiting for hours here waiting for relatives to come, or friends from different parts of europe. just this morning i have seen cars are stopping here to pick up families with creation, italian, slovak, slovenian registration plates and many hungarians here, local people handing out bags of chocolates and fruit to children as they cross this border behind me. it is
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fruit to children as they cross this border behind me. it is sometimes hard to hear— border behind me. it is sometimes hard to hear you, _ border behind me. it is sometimes hard to hear you, so _ border behind me. it is sometimes hard to hear you, so apologies - border behind me. it is sometimes hard to hear you, so apologies if. hard to hear you, so apologies if you have touched on this already, but what are they telling you about what they are leaving behind, but crucially what they have or where they are hoping to get to?- they are hoping to get to? about what they are — they are hoping to get to? about what they are leaving _ they are hoping to get to? about what they are leaving behind, i they are hoping to get to? aboutj what they are leaving behind, for example young women was talking last night said in kyiv they had heard and seen exposures there, one of the girls, 19—year—old girl, said she left behind her boyfriend who had never held a gun in his life but was now volunteering to take up arms to try to defend his city, his capital, his country is only people, once they get here, they are frantically, if there is any charge it left on their phones, they are either ringing back to see how friends and relatives are back on ukraine or they are ringing ahead to try to find out if and if so who might come and pick them up at the roadside here. so quite emotional tales from
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people really as they try and work out firstly where they are going bust up there is a large ukrainian day our spirit in western europe, many in poland alone and perhaps as many in poland alone and perhaps as many as a million might try to cross into poland, but hearing stories from people crossing this border of others fleeing the worst fighting around kyiv and in the east and the south who are concentrating in central ukraine, or other western ukraine, to wait and see in places within the country, so these are the now internally displaced people. what we would see, if this war goes on much longer, as those people who fled to safety, comparative safety within ukraine, probably trying to reach borders like this one. ok, for now, thank you. we will— reach borders like this one. ok, for now, thank you. we will talk - reach borders like this one. ok, for now, thank you. we will talk some | now, thank you. we will talk some more about that right now, but for the time being, thank you. poland has also opened its doors to ukrainian refugees.
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helena krajewska is from polish humanitarian action. she joins us from warsaw. tell us about the ukrainians who are crossing the border to poland to seek safety. crossing the border to poland to seek safety-— seek safety. there are a lot of --eole seek safety. there are a lot of people coming _ seek safety. there are a lot of people coming through - seek safety. there are a lot of people coming through the i seek safety. there are a lot of- people coming through the border. right now there are nine at reception centres set up by the polish government, by the border, one is on a train station, so everyone gets some help with documents, permission to stay, also places to stay in some cities nearby or in bigger cities. also, there are a lot of local people and people from all around poland are coming to the border, just wanting to help, just bringing food, bringing blankets, bringing also hygiene products and just coming and trying to pick up people from the border to
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the bigger cities. so there is a national movement and solidarity of help. we national movement and solidarity of hel. _ . ., ., national movement and solidarity of hel-. ~ . ., . , national movement and solidarity of help. we are told that this could be a very long — help. we are told that this could be a very long and _ help. we are told that this could be a very long and protracted - help. we are told that this could be a very long and protracted war. - a very long and protracted war. these are very early days. how much worse are you expecting this humanitarian situation to get? taste humanitarian situation to get? we are a humanitarian situation to get? - are a humanitarian organisation, we have eight years of experience working in ukraine and we have not seen anything like this. we have not seen anything like this. we have not seen such a protracted crisis is right now. the un estimates that to help assist humanitarian needs in the next few months, he would need more than $1 billion. we know about even 150,000 people who already moved out of ukraine, but we know there will be much more people coming into poland, slovakia, of
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course hungary, romania, moldova, so i know that needs on the border in our countries will be big, but the needs in ukraine for the people who cannot leave the country will be much, much bigger. ispoke cannot leave the country will be much, much bigger. i spoke to my fellow colleagues in the east of ukraine today in the morning and they said that in the east of ukraine there is in many cities no water, no electricity, no gas and soon there will be no mobile connection if the conflict goes on and more shelling is coming, so the situation will be much worse than last week. which was already had when almost 3 million people needed humanitarian assistance to go on with their everyday life.- humanitarian assistance to go on with their everyday life. thank you for bein: with their everyday life. thank you for being with _ with their everyday life. thank you for being with us _ with their everyday life. thank you for being with us this _ with their everyday life. thank you for being with us this morning. - with their everyday life. thank you j for being with us this morning. we wish you well with your work, it is onlyjust beginning, it feels, but
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thank you for being with us this morning. holly is back with the sport. people say, absurdly sometimes, politics and sport should not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows — not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how _ not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how much _ not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how much it _ not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how much it can - not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how much it can do. - not mix, but in this case, yes. yes, and shows how much it can do. we know russia has been heavily involved in sport in the years but in the last few days there has been huge pressure on fifa in particularjust around russia's particular just around russia's government particularjust around russia's government in the upcoming world cup and sweden, the czech republic and poland came together seeking clarity on this very issue, saying they did not want to play in russia, but this morning, injust they did not want to play in russia, but this morning, in just the last hour or so, the polish fa has gone a step further and said they will be boycotting the qualifiers in russia next month. the current president of the polish football association, cezary kulesza, tweeted this morning to say...
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he says, "this is only the right decision". they seem to have the support of the swedish and czech fa's too — he says they're in talks with their federations to present a common position to fifa. the decision has had the backing of their captain and star striker robert lewandowski. he tweeted his support saying, "i can't imagine playing a match with the russian national team in a situation when armed aggression in ukraine continues. russian footballers and fans are not responsible for this, but we can't pretend that nothing is happening." pressure is mounting on fifa to remove russia from the tournament altogether. the country has already been stripped of the champions league final later this year. it was due to be held in st petersburg, but has been switched to paris at the stade de france. manchester united interim manager ralf rangnick, whose
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side are in the last 16 of the competition, has backed the decision. the situation itself is desperately sad. i think everybody will think similarly about that, this is just an incredible situation that we have that kind of war within europe and therefore i think the decision that uefa took was inevitable and it was the right decision. chelsea manager thomas tuchel admits the situation is distracting his side from their preparation for tomorrow's league cup final against liverpool. chelsea are owned by russian billionnaire roman abramovich, believed to be close to the russian president. tuchel said the situation for chelsea was horrible. this season's russian grand prix has been axed. an f1 statement said it had been agreed at a meeting of stakeholders "that it is impossible to hold the race in the current circumstances". it had been due to take place
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in sochi in september. clearly as you can see, not the end of many more decisions coming in the next few days. sport, as you say, it is intrinsic to russia so expect big decisions in the next couple of days. thank you. let's go back to kyiv now. inna sovsun is an opposition politican in ukraine — she's deputy head of the golos party. thank you for talking to us, how are you today? thank you for talking to us, how are ou toda ? ~ ., thank you for talking to us, how are you today?— thank you for talking to us, how are ou toda ? ~ . , you today? well, we are getting used to this new reality _ you today? well, we are getting used to this new reality of _ you today? well, we are getting used to this new reality of sirens, - you today? well, we are getting used to this new reality of sirens, going i to this new reality of sirens, going down to the shelter, of reading the news constantly, following up on the situation, but i think that at this point through the day in the russian invasion, we are not getting used, we are getting better organised. people have found a job for
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themselves, they are doing what they can, some people are volunteering, some are talking to the journalists, media, some providing humanitarian support, some providing weapons and lots of people are just doing the mainjob that lots of people are just doing the main job that needs to be done, which is to enlist into the army. i would tell you the truth, the only time i actually cried in the last three days was when i saw the lines into the army recruitment centres. the lines are there, they are growing, more and more people are getting ready to enlist and a personal note again, today, in the morning, i spoke to my dad, he is a 61—year—old afghan war veteran and the day before he took my mum to the family and today he is going back to kyiv and i him and said why are coming back? he said i am coming
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back to defend kyiv. i said dad, you have weak knees, you hardly walk, and he told me something that made me cry, he said i can crawl. flan and he told me something that made me cry, he said i can crawl. cant me cry, he said i can crawl. can i ask you- -- _ me cry, he said i can crawl. can i ask you... what _ me cry, he said i can crawl. can i ask you... what amount - me cry, he said i can crawl. can i ask you... what amount your - me cry, he said i can crawl. can i | ask you... what amount your dad sounds, seriously, what a man. —— what a man. you received a gun to protect yourself, i don't know if you know how to use it, but do you feel the moment is approaching where you may pick it up to use it? l did you may pick it up to use it? i did receive a weapon. _ you may pick it up to use it? i did receive a weapon. i _ you may pick it up to use it? i did receive a weapon. i am _ you may pick it up to use it? i c c receive a weapon. i am not trained to use it, i am a political scientist in my background, i was teaching at the university before being elected to the parliament, so thatis being elected to the parliament, so that is not my initial training, trust me, but i do have a gun. a5 weird as it sounds, trust me, if someone told me i would be having
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this sentence three days ago i would not believe them, but i do have a gun and if the situation comes to that, i will have to use it. i'm not surrendering, not sleeping kirov, —— leaving kyiv, not surrendering. thank you. talking about her 61—year—old dad saying i will fight, and when she said you have weak knees, he said i will crawl. you can follow all the latest developments of the war in ukraine by going to our online live coverage. follow it on bbc.co.uk/news or on the bbc news app.
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that's all from breakfast today. we're back at six tomorrow. have a good day.
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this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. the moment a rocket hit an apartment building in ukraine's capital, as explosions are reported across the city. the number of casualties are still unknown as an evacuation is under way. one eyewitness narrowly escapes the blast. we managed to escape. we were in the kitchen. we were lucky. there was a direct hit into the living room. my wife and younger child had their legs broken open. the older was taken by rescuers.— taken by rescuers. president zelensky appears _ taken by rescuers. president zelensky appears in - taken by rescuers. president zelensky appears in another| taken by rescuers. president - zelensky appears in another video in the centre of the capital and vows to keep fighting to defend his
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