this is bbc news broadcasting in the uk and around the globe. our top stories... fears of toxic fumes rise over ukraine — as russian missiles strike an oil terminal. reports russian troops have entered the country's second—largest city, kharkiv. russian vehicles have been seen driving through residential areas. this is the scene in the capital as the country enters the fourth day of its invasion. president zelensky has rejected negotiations with moscow in minsk and gave this update. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again, _ translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again, the _ translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again, the shelling, - in ukraine. again, the shelling, again the bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure.

western allies agree more sanctions against moscow banning russian banks from the financial system, swift. i’m banning russian banks from the financial system, swift.- financial system, swift. i'm in medika on — financial system, swift. i'm in medika on the _ financial system, swift. i'm in medika on the poland - - financial system, swift. i'm in - medika on the poland - ukrainian medika on the poland — ukrainian border_ medika on the poland — ukrainian border where thousands of people are continuing _ border where thousands of people are continuing to cross over to safety. hello and welcome to bbc news. the russian assault on ukraine is continuing on several fronts, as the invasion enters its fourth day. mr zelensky accused russian troops of deliberately bombarding civilian residential areas, in what he called a "brutal" overnight shelling campaign. speaking this morning,

ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskiy has said he is open to "honest" talks with moscow, but ruled out negotiations being held in the belarusian capital of minsk, saying the neighbouring country is being used to launch attacks. there has been heavy fighting in ukraine's second—largest city, kharkiv, where tanks have been seen driving through residential areas. earlier, local officials confirmed russian troops had entered the city. a large blast was heard to the west of the capital kyiv earlier. an oil depot was also blown up close to the city last night. and ukranian media is reporting that russian forces occupy nova kakhovka, to the south of the country. it's been reported that around 200,000 thousand people have crossed into poland. thousands have crossed into hungary and moldova. this is the fourth night of russia's

attack. signs of fierce defence but russian forces come. ukraine's president are again addressed his people. translation: last president are again addressed his people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. _ people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. the _ people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. the shelling - people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. the shelling and - brutal in ukraine. the shelling and bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure. find bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure.— civilian infrastructure. and he re'ected civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers _ civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers of _ civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers of peace - civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers of peace talks | civilian infrastructure. and he l rejected offers of peace talks in neighbouring belarus. a direct hit on an oil depot this time close to an airstrip south of kyiv with toxic smoke filling the air. people told to close their windows and stay indoors. the enemy wants to destroy everything, says the local mayor. but it seems this was not the decisive night for ukraine's capital that some had feared. a curfew still in force, the city's residents were told to stay off the streets until monday. with the city's mayor and

former heavyweight boxer warning of russian infiltrators. the situation in the capital is complex and tense, he said, the enemy has not broken into the city but saboteurs are operating. to the west, desperate are still trying to escape with long queues at border crossings are leaving the country and with chaos at train stations. he leaving the country and with chaos at train stations.— at train stations. he we thought it was 'ust at train stations. he we thought it was just informational _ at train stations. he we thought it was just informational war. - at train stations. he we thought it was just informational war. but i at train stations. he we thought it| was just informational war. but we wasjust informational war. but we see what_ wasjust informational war. but we see what happened. _ wasjust informational war. but we see what happened. we _ wasjust informational war. but we see what happened. we don't- see what happened. we don't understand _ see what happened. we don't understand why— see what happened. we don't understand why putin - see what happened. we don't understand why putin does i see what happened. we don'tj understand why putin does it. see what happened. we don't- understand why putin does it. we need _ understand why putin does it. we need help— understand why putin does it. we need help from _ understand why putin does it. we need help from world. _ understand why putin does it. we need help from world. we - understand why putin does it. we need help from world. we say, i understand why putin does it. we . need help from world. we say, help, help. _ need help from world. we say, help, help. help. _ need help from world. we say, help, help. help. help— need help from world. we say, help, help. help. help us _ need help from world. we say, help, help, help, help us. because- need help from world. we say, help, help, help, help us. because we - help, help, help us. because we heat _ help, help, help us. because we heat we— help, help, help us. because we heat we heat _ help, help, help us. because we hear. we hear. we _ help, help, help us. because we hear. we hear. we were - help, help, help us. because we hear. we hear. we were alone l help, help, help us. because we - hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia _ hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia has— hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia has not— hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia has not achieved _ hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia has not achieved the - hear. we hear. we were alone here. russia has not achieved the quick. russia has not achieved the quick victory it wanted and kyiv has not

fallen. translation president putin paid tribute to what he called troops heroically fulfilling their military duty. and, in truth, on the southern front, the russian forces have gained ground. with more troops and armour waiting in reserve. angus crawford, bbc news. let's go straight to kyiv and speak to our correspondent james waterhouse. what's the latest? we have had a number of closer explosions, loud explosions, the type that make the walls vibrate a little bit. 0ver type that make the walls vibrate a little bit. over the past couple of hours, in between that, it is relatively quiet. but we heard them from the east bank of the riverjust over my shoulder. it is where ukrainian forces have taken up defensive positions on some of the bridges that cross. but in terms of the centre, it is still quiet. the

streets are filled with the occasional soldier or volunteer that may have signed up and taken a weapon and hit the streets, trying to defend an enemy. they have a yellow armband on their arm. but, otherwise, as you say, there is a curfew here and will be until tomorrow morning. there was quite an intensity of fighting in a suburb of kyiv in the north—west. the past few days have seen a nearby airfield... an exchange of fire between both russian and ukrainian forces. that has included artillery fire. ukrainians have been sharing footage online of what looks like an armoured column of vehicles and russian troops moving their way through residential areas, tearing up through residential areas, tearing up grass beneath them. it is a very worrying site. people are filming it, peering through curtains. that is a scene replicated hundreds of miles away in the north—eastern city in the second biggest city in

kharkiv where russian troops are inside and fighting with ukrainian forces. they have destroyed a gas pipeline. that will be the concern here. that will be replicated in the central streets. they said everyone doubted us but we have put up a stern defence. now, in this row, this ongoing demand by russia that ukraine couldn'tjoin nato, ukraine has been trying to build an alliance of its own, urging volunteers not just here in the country, notjust 18 to 60—year—olds as they requested to sign up and join the armed forces, but they are asking people from other countries to come. the uk's foreign secretary, liz truss, has endorsed that message. so the seriousness and possible desperation of tone continues from politicians here. for now, in the centre of kyiv, it is quiet but the military presence, this sizeable force, this russian force, is very much closing

in. i russian force, is very much closing in. ~' ., �* , russian force, is very much closing in. ~' ., h ' . russian force, is very much closing in. w, �*, '. ., in. i know it's difficult to predict. _ in. i know it's difficult to predict, but _ in. i know it's difficult to predict, but is _ in. i know it's difficult to predict, but is the - in. i know it's difficult to predict, but is the worry| in. i know it's difficult to _ predict, but is the worry ultimately that ukraine will not be able to hold out in the capital? 0r that ukraine will not be able to hold out in the capital? or is that still in the balance? i hold out in the capital? or is that still in the balance?— still in the balance? i think it is a very real— still in the balance? i think it is a very real worry. _ still in the balance? i think it is a very real worry. it _ still in the balance? i think it is a very real worry. it always - still in the balance? i think it is a very real worry. it always hasj a very real worry. it always has been. it has only been ukraine to mount this defence against one of the most powerful armies in the world. it is outnumbered. it is better equipped and has received billions of dollars of western help, training, equipment, and economic packages and the like. but we've got to be realistic. this is a government that has called on anyone that was a gun. anyone that wants a weapon, they will get one. 18,000 were handed out across the country in one day. the streets are quite nervous. those volunteers we mentioned, they are patrolling, they are setting up checkpoints. they are not professional soldiers. it is an emotive reasoning from them, as to why they are out, bearing arms to

defend their home. for other ukrainians, it is a case of sitting and waiting. with no natural light, underground in metro stations, restaurants, car parks and are waiting to see what will happen. but it comes down to those haunting images for some of alien soldiers, russian soldiers, in this country, moving through the streets. soldiers with yes, shared language, shared cultural ties, with yes, shared language, shared culturalties, but with yes, shared language, shared cultural ties, but they are very much here that they are here taking over. , . , , much here that they are here taking over. , . ., ., over. james, there is speculation, briefinu over. james, there is speculation, briefing by — over. james, there is speculation, briefing by both _ over. james, there is speculation, briefing by both sides _ over. james, there is speculation, briefing by both sides and - over. james, there is speculation, briefing by both sides and one - over. james, there is speculation, l briefing by both sides and one never knows the accuracy from london. but what is your sense about the reports of would russia be so desperate if it doesn't move as fast as it wants to, to use other, more damaging weaponry, more damaging tactics, which would hit civilians further? i think we can't be in any doubt the

lengths president vladimir putin of russia is willing to go to boston notjust russia is willing to go to boston not just to exert russia is willing to go to boston notjust to exert his now very much covert over ukraine —— willing to go to, notjust two. to make a broader point to the west to make a point about the traditional security audit in the world. he's made it clear through the annexation of crimea and backing separatist rebels, notjust a one up —— one off operation but for sustaining that for eight years, cyberattacks and misinformation campaigns, three days ago, we are in a fourth day of a full—scale invasion. yes, is the worry he will go to more drastic efforts if he doesn't get the victory he wants? if he is frustrated in any way? that is a real concern. could that involve indiscriminate fire? 0ne dreads to predict, to be honest with you. or is this a deliberate underplaying of his hand? there is talk of talks where president zelensky has said he has turned down an invitation to meet the russian delegation to the north in belarus. his reasons are that belarus has enabled russia to

mount such a sizeable invasion, especially from the north. he also said he could travel in that direction because that is where missiles are being launched from. —— he can't travel. but he said he is still open to talks. if you talk to people in the bomb shelters here, they can't fathom this as an opening gambit for any kind of negotiation. having a city turned to darkness overnight, to have periodic explosions going off in the distance, to have that as a meaningful opening for any kind of negotiation is an incredibly difficult idea to swallow. for those --eole difficult idea to swallow. for those peeple that _ difficult idea to swallow. for those peeple that we _ difficult idea to swallow. for those people that we have _ difficult idea to swallow. for those people that we have seen - difficult idea to swallow. for those people that we have seen a - people that we have seen a sheltering underground in bomb shelters, you know, bbc colleagues, young families with children in the surrounding areas and underground in train stations, if there is a real assault, are they protected on the ground or not necessarily?- ground or not necessarily? there will be some _ ground or not necessarily? there will be some protection - ground or not necessarily? there will be some protection from - will be some protection from shellfire. the subways here are

specifically designed for that purpose, sadly. but, you're right, we've had colleagues who live across dnieper the river, they live over there and have seen smoke funnelling out from the view from their flat that they have enjoyed for most of that they have enjoyed for most of that adult lives. there are people that adult lives. there are people that are some of the 160,000 estimated by the un who have just upped and left. they queued up to be back on roads for miles and miles, reached borders, queueing for a day and a half and counting to get across those borders, who are taking their children with them, who have had their lives completely upside turned upside down. whether or not the subway will protect them is one thing. whether or not they can protect themselves is another. people are trying to take what they can into their own control. that is what we are seeing across the country, alongside, frankly, noble resistance inside key cities across the country, against a much greater force. the question is, whether they can hold out and, if so, for how

long. can hold out and, if so, for how lon. _ g ., , can hold out and, if so, for how lon. . g ., , . ., can hold out and, if so, for how long. james ward house in kyiv, thank you _ long. james ward house in kyiv, thank you very — long. james ward house in kyiv, thank you very much _ long. james ward house in kyiv, thank you very much indeed. - i'm joined by the ambassador. what has been described _ i'm joined by the ambassador. what has been described as _ i'm joined by the ambassador. twist has been described as more i'm joined by the ambassador. tiemsgt has been described as more or i'm joined by the ambassador. tiermsgt has been described as more or less accurate, the importance of a particular small town in the south, nova kakhovka. it used to supply water to crimea, it comes to our major river. the russians have already taken it. it is distilling water. they come notjust to make a point but they are doing economic damage. the two major cities are symbolic, to take kyiv as a capital notjust symbolic, to take kyiv as a capital not just of symbolic, to take kyiv as a capital notjust of ukraine but capital of all people of slavic dissent. the word russia came from kyiv, they even stole the name from us and now they are coming again. in even stole the name from us and now they are coming again.—

they are coming again. in terms of casualties. — they are coming again. in terms of casualties, what _ they are coming again. in terms of casualties, what are _ they are coming again. in terms of casualties, what are the _ they are coming again. in terms of casualties, what are the numbersl casualties, what are the numbers that you've got both of civilians and military on both sides? taste that you've got both of civilians and military on both sides? we know, i 'ust read and military on both sides? we know, i just read the — and military on both sides? we know, ijust read the numbers _ and military on both sides? we know, ijust read the numbers from - and military on both sides? we know, ijust read the numbers from my - ijust read the numbers from my ministry of health of the civilians, the casualties are in the hundreds. thousands of people are wounded, kids, as well. we know that we are trying not to disclose the losses for obvious reasons on the military side. we know we inflicted at least 3000 people dead on the russian side. wounded taken. we want to establish a hotline for russians to establish a hotline for russians to establish the loved ones. are they alive or dead, so they might reach out to theirfamily. alive or dead, so they might reach out to their family. we are doing this as well. out to their family. we are doing this as well-— this as well. you are busily good watch to give — this as well. you are busily good watch to give away _ this as well. you are busily good watch to give away your - this as well. you are busily good watch to give away your own - this as well. you are busily good - watch to give away your own military casualties, can you give us any sense of the losses —— you are obviously. it sense of the losses -- you are obviously-— sense of the losses -- you are obviousl. , ., ., , , , ., obviously. it is enormous because of the rockets — obviously. it is enormous because of the rockets being _ obviously. it is enormous because of the rockets being used _ obviously. it is enormous because of the rockets being used and - obviously. it is enormous because of the rockets being used and shelling l the rockets being used and shelling from the black sea, the missiles on

residential houses, you can imagine how the military installations were suffering. that is what they tried to do in the first wave. ammunition depots. the losses of these people are great, but we have enough people to survive, we are a big nation. everybody in ukraine is a noble effort. many people in ukraine can hold arms. we have been through army and conscription, myself, for example. it and conscription, myself, for example-— and conscription, myself, for examle. , , ., .,, and conscription, myself, for examle. , , . ., , ., example. it is understandable that ou are example. it is understandable that you are rrot — example. it is understandable that you are not allowing _ example. it is understandable that you are not allowing men - example. it is understandable that you are not allowing men to - example. it is understandable that you are not allowing men to leave| you are not allowing men to leave the country but it is distressing to witness that, because if a man doesn't want to fight and feels he wants to leave with his, you know, wife, children, mother, sisters, should he not be free to leave if he wants to? taste should he not be free to leave if he wants to? ~ ., should he not be free to leave if he wants to? ~ . ., ,, wants to? we are taking case-by-case. _ wants to? we are taking case-by-case. we - wants to? we are taking - case-by-case. we understand wants to? we are taking _ case-by-case. we understand that case—by—case. we understand that sometimes these men are needed to support the family. we are also trying to create the possibility for the families to be safe, at least a couple of days. the neighbouring nations are coming to help. the smaller nations, we need financial support, bigger nations, to be able

to open up whatever the places are. at the same time, this is a critical time for some nobody wanted to fight. not even those soldiers wanted to fight but we are fighting and we need resources, sorry. germany has said that it is breaking with its post—war policy and going to supply military help. it with its post-war policy and going to supply military help.— to supply military help. it will be too late. to supply military help. it will be too late- we _ to supply military help. it will be too late. we asked _ to supply military help. it will be too late. we asked them - to supply military help. it will be too late. we asked them for- to supply military help. it will be too late. we asked them for so i to supply military help. it will be - too late. we asked them for so many years. they were notjust not providing but blocking the support from other nations, nato nations, using their right of veto on nato decisions. they came to change their minds butjust a bit too late. you minds but 'ust a bit too late. you are minds but 'ust a bit too late. you saying— minds butjust a bit too late. you are saying you — minds butjust a bit too late. you are saying you don't want the weapons?— are saying you don't want the wea ons? ., , weapons? no, we need them, but we now have to — weapons? no, we need them, but we now have to get _ weapons? no, we need them, but we now have to get them _ weapons? no, we need them, but we now have to get them somewhere - weapons? no, we need them, but we now have to get them somewhere in l now have to get them somewhere in the territory of european nations because the flights are cancelled. all the flights, even military flights can't go. it is not safe or military planes to arrive. we can use the seas —— we can't use. we can only use routes from the west and civilians are fleeing through this route. i had a friend driving 28

hours without sleep for 400 kilometres with his family to reach out to leave them and get back to kyiv. that is too late. but we need to receive most of the help coming, like the uk's assistance, we now have to bring back by trucks. bur; have to bring back by trucks. buy trucks through the west? yes. i have to bring back by trucks. buy i trucks through the west? yes. can ou aet trucks through the west? yes. can you get the — trucks through the west? yes can you get the german assistance trucks through the west? 19:3 can you get the german assistance that way? you get the german assistance that wa ? , :, , , , you get the german assistance that wa? , ,: way? yes, and everybody else, dutch came with a — way? yes, and everybody else, dutch came with a package _ way? yes, and everybody else, dutch came with a package was _ way? yes, and everybody else, dutch came with a package was to - way? yes, and everybody else, dutch came with a package was to even - came with a package was to even smaller nations like estonia, 1.2 million people and they came with anti—tank rockets, missiles. these people can share everything they have with us. find people can share everything they have with us.— people can share everything they have with us. : , :, :, m have with us. and you need more? we need much more _ have with us. and you need more? we need much more because _ have with us. and you need more? we need much more because russians - have with us. and you need more? we i need much more because russians came in huge numbers. i need much more because russians came in huge numbers— in huge numbers. i don't know whether you — in huge numbers. i don't know whether you can _ in huge numbers. i don't know whether you can answer - in huge numbers. i don't know whether you can answer this, | in huge numbers. i don't know. whether you can answer this, but nato is not able to support militarily on the ground. figs nato is not able to support militarily on the ground. as of now. are there any _ militarily on the ground. as of now. are there any other _ militarily on the ground. as of now. are there any other nations - militarily on the ground. as of now. are there any other nations and - are there any other nations and special forces or advisors in ukraine helping? taste special forces or advisors in ukraine helping?— special forces or advisors in ukraine helping? special forces or advisors in ukraine helina? :, , :, ukraine helping? we had people who were helping — ukraine helping? we had people who were helping us—

ukraine helping? we had people who were helping us with _ ukraine helping? we had people who were helping us with the _ were helping us with the preparation. we had trainers including uk, canada and united states and some other nations were coming to help us. 0ver states and some other nations were coming to help us. over this year, they prepared our soldiers. and the uk prepared 21,000 of our soldiers, how to use rep weapons we receive. while they still there? thea;r how to use rep weapons we receive. while they still there?— while they still there? they have been withdrawn. _ while they still there? they have been withdrawn. most _ while they still there? they have been withdrawn. most of - while they still there? they have been withdrawn. most of the - been withdrawn. most of the embassies and everybody and even the government in western part of ukraine. , :, :, :, :, ukraine. there is no international assistance? _ ukraine. there is no international assistance? as _ ukraine. there is no international assistance? as of _ ukraine. there is no international assistance? as of now, _ ukraine. there is no international assistance? as of now, there - ukraine. there is no international assistance? as of now, there is i ukraine. there is no international. assistance? as of now, there is no. but when people — assistance? as of now, there is no. but when people say _ assistance? as of now, there is no. but when people say they - assistance? as of now, there is no. but when people say they will - assistance? as of now, there is no. but when people say they will not l but when people say they will not come, i don't believe it. they might change. they could change their mind as the germans did to see what is going on right now. we need to support right now. it is not something theoretical we will discuss later.— something theoretical we will discuss later. :, :, :, discuss later. there are talks about eace discuss later. there are talks about peace talks- _ discuss later. there are talks about peace talks. your _ discuss later. there are talks about peace talks. your president, - discuss later. there are talks about peace talks. your president, mr- peace talks. your president, mr zelensky, said he cannot go to belarus to hold those talks, but is your government open to negotiations of some kind?— of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on _ of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on the _ of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on the first _ of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on the first day - of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on the first day of -

of some kind? zelensky called for the talks on the first day of the i the talks on the first day of the all—out attack. it got lost. putin has much greater authority to appeal. his message is getting over. we are ready to sit. we don't want to discuss capitulation. as were the terms they gave already, capitulation rather than discussion. 0bviously, capitulation rather than discussion. obviously, it is not belarus, they do it on purpose, they are humiliating us on purpose. 0ffering us belarus, where they came from. there was reports of potentially azerbaijan or turkey being able to host talks, would that be a possibility in your view? israel, any neutral _ possibility in your view? israel, any neutral european _ possibility in your view? israel, any neutral european nation i possibility in your view? israel, | any neutral european nation will possibility in your view? israel, - any neutral european nation will do. i don't know, austria. i am thinking aloud. we will take any offer. i know some leaders came with the idea to beat... we will be happy... london will step up. as a guarantor. three of them, russia, united states and uk. these nations offered their assistance for nuclear weapons. each and every nation of those can take a

part, a leading role in negotiations.- part, a leading role in neuotiations. :, :, :, :, negotiations. you are holding out k iv and negotiations. you are holding out kyiv and kharkiv _ negotiations. you are holding out kyiv and kharkiv at _ negotiations. you are holding out kyiv and kharkiv at the _ negotiations. you are holding out kyiv and kharkiv at the moment. | negotiations. you are holding out i kyiv and kharkiv at the moment. but is itjust kyiv and kharkiv at the moment. but is it just a kyiv and kharkiv at the moment. but is itjust a matter of days, now, really? is itjust a matter of days, now, reall ? :, :, , , :, really? not only this, the whole western ukraine _ really? not only this, the whole western ukraine is _ really? not only this, the whole western ukraine is more - really? not only this, the whole western ukraine is more or- really? not only this, the whole western ukraine is more or lessj really? not only this, the whole - western ukraine is more or less free from russians. russia knows the resistance is fearsome. but from russians. russia knows the resistance is fearsome.— from russians. russia knows the resistance is fearsome. but how long can ou resistance is fearsome. but how long can you hold — resistance is fearsome. but how long can you hold out. _ resistance is fearsome. but how long can you hold out, realistically? - resistance is fearsome. but how long can you hold out, realistically? howl can you hold out, realistically? how frightened are you that you will lose the capital? taste frightened are you that you will lose the capital?— frightened are you that you will lose the capital? we are frightened but we don't _ lose the capital? we are frightened but we don't have _ lose the capital? we are frightened but we don't have days... - lose the capital? we are frightened but we don't have days... we - lose the capital? we are frightened but we don't have days... we don't| but we don't have days... we don't know. present zelensky addressed yesterday and reminded the nation we will fight. that is our version we will fight. that is our version we will fight. that is our version we will fight is on the beaches and the hills, his speech was about this, we will fight as long as needed. in will fight as long as needed. in terms of people leaving, there has been a bit of a political row in this country, as you well know, between the conservatives at the labour party about whether people should be allowed to come here, regardless... whether they need to go through some potential application to come here, what is

your view? application to come here, what is yourview? i application to come here, what is your view?— your view? i discussed yesterday with the secretary _ your view? i discussed yesterday with the secretary patel. - your view? i discussed yesterday with the secretary patel. and - your view? i discussed yesterday| with the secretary patel. and she talked with the ministry of interior in ukraine. we are talking. we have seen some ease of these applications being done but mostly for those ukrainians who are still there and the visa surround somewhere at the end. this visas will be easily extended. forthose end. this visas will be easily extended. for those who want to come right now, we're still working your people on british citizens. 0bviously, your government is preoccupied with what is happening to their own citizens. ukraine is trying to help. fighting at the same time we are trying to help your citizens to get safely back with their families, citizens to get safely back with theirfamilies, some of citizens to get safely back with their families, some of them ukrainian citizens and family members. we have not been talking much about ukrainians to be invited here or aloud here.— here or aloud here. should they be, thou~h? here or aloud here. should they be, though? its — here or aloud here. should they be, though? as of— here or aloud here. should they be, though? as of now, _ here or aloud here. should they be, though? as of now, because - here or aloud here. should they be, though? as of now, because it - here or aloud here. should they be, though? as of now, because it is i though? as of now, because it is 'ust the though? as of now, because it is just the fourth — though? as of now, because it is just the fourth day _ though? as of now, because it is just the fourth day of— though? as of now, because it is just the fourth day of war, i though? as of now, because it is just the fourth day of war, we i though? as of now, because it is| just the fourth day of war, we are much more occupied with the immediate relief. but much more occupied with the immediate relief.— much more occupied with the immediate relief. �* :, immediate relief. but if there are 4 million people. _ immediate relief. but if there are 4 million people, as _ immediate relief. but if there are 4 million people, as some _ immediate relief. but if there are 4 million people, as some un - immediate relief. but if there are 4 l million people, as some un agencies

are saying, that might leave your country, it is not that they would necessarily want to stay here indefinitely, i am sure they would all want to go home...— indefinitely, i am sure they would all want to go home... sure. but they won't _ all want to go home... sure. but they won't all— all want to go home... sure. but they won't all necessarily - all want to go home... sure. but they won't all necessarily be i all want to go home... (is but they won't all necessarily be able to stay in the country that immediately border ukraine. if they want to come to the uk, should they be allowed to? with an open border permission route? i be allowed to? with an open border permission route?— permission route? i believe so. if it is possible _ permission route? i believe so. if it is possible here, _ permission route? i believe so. if it is possible here, we _ permission route? i believe so. if it is possible here, we would i permission route? i believe so. ifj it is possible here, we would love to do it. as of now, we would rather ask people to help those nations who immediately given relief, to help financially established homes and everything they need right now. we might not need it. if we manage to finish out the war now, we don't even have to go. we already have 1.8 million displaced over eight years but most of them have found new homes in ukraine. it was not like the syrian immigration crisis in europe. people are doing well in other homes. we europe. people are doing well in other homes.— europe. people are doing well in other homes. we are 'ust hearing that the ux * other homes. we are 'ust hearing that the uk foreign i other homes. we are just hearing that the uk foreign minister, i other homes. we are just hearing that the uk foreign minister, liz| that the uk foreign minister, liz truss, is going to be meeting g7 counterparts later today. pressing for tougher sanctions on russia.

what sanctions do you now want to see, what further measures? what what sanctions do you now want to see, what further measures? what has already been — see, what further measures? what has already been done _ see, what further measures? what has already been done is _ see, what further measures? what has already been done is normal— see, what further measures? what has already been done is normal -- - already been done is normal —— enormous help. the central bank, russia, the major banks have been hit. this is something the russians will feel. 0n hit. this is something the russians will feel. on top of it, we will need notjust sanctions in russia, we also want ukraine to be supported. that is also in the package, to support ukraine to survive this. who knows how long it will go? survive this. who knows how long it will to? :, :, :, :, survive this. who knows how long it willto? :, :, :, :, :, survive this. who knows how long it willto? :, :, :, :, will go? you want nato to support militaril , will go? you want nato to support militarily, close _ will go? you want nato to support militarily, close the _ will go? you want nato to support militarily, close the skies? - militarily, close the skies? financial support right now to survive physically. who knows how soon just the food will run out and water. they are shelling everything on pipelines, fuel. fuel is critical right now and it is the middle of winter. ukraine is not as warm as here. :, , :, , here. finally, there have been speculatively _ here. finally, there have been speculatively reports, - here. finally, there have been speculatively reports, you i here. finally, there have been i speculatively reports, you know, fog of war, misinformation on all sides, would russia, if they are prevented from moving as quickly as they want, use the worst kind of weapons. we have seen reports of chemical

weapons being used in the middle east. how worried are you about how far this could go?— far this could go? ukrainian metro subway system — far this could go? ukrainian metro subway system is _ far this could go? ukrainian metro subway system is nuclear - far this could go? ukrainian metro subway system is nuclear proof. i far this could go? ukrainian metro i subway system is nuclear proof. and people are there right now. we hope they are not crazy enough to use something like nuclear and chemical or to do bombardment with ballistic missiles. but they are already shelling our cities. everywhere. they are not picking up the targets. ukraine ambassador, thank you. thank ou. it's been reported that around 150,000 thousand people have crossed into poland. we're going to the polish border with ukraine now, kasia madera is there for us. kasia we have been seeing many people flow out of ukraine for very understandable reasons. the people that you are discussing with the ambassador, the refugees that are coming into poland, this is

one of the first ports of call that they will see. this is medika on a border town, crossing point, and it has been turned into a makeshift welcome reception area. there is so much stuff being brought here by local people, from people further afield, in order to help those people that have spent hours, absolute hours, trying to get across this border into the safety of poland and eu country and nato member country. people are rallying around. we have noticed a lot of people, like this gentleman, who has been waiting with us, who have signs like this in ukrainian and in polish, explaining that... explained to us. basically, if ijust expend what he

is saying, it is a board that is saying that they want to help. they've got accommodation for four people. he will provide transport to the place. not very far from people. he will provide transport to the place. not very farfrom here. and the person there will then welcome these people, these four people in. we are noticing that the people in. we are noticing that the people that are arriving here, they are so shattered and shell—shocked. this is the first place that they've entered and poles want to help. potentially you are going to meet up with a group of people? he speaks polish i'm just going to translate. while we were waiting, there is a family that i think they are going to take

up that i think they are going to take up this particular offer. but you wanted to say, in english... don't kill. sto wanted to say, in english... don't kill- stop the _ wanted to say, in english... don't kill. stop the war. _ wanted to say, in english... don't kill. stop the war. too _ wanted to say, in english... don't kill. stop the war. too many i kill. stop the war. too many children die.— kill. stop the war. too many children die. :, ,, : :, children die. thank you so much for talkint to children die. thank you so much for talking to us _ children die. thank you so much for talking to us so _ children die. thank you so much for talking to us so you _ children die. thank you so much for talking to us so you can _ children die. thank you so much for talking to us so you can talk - children die. thank you so much for talking to us so you can talk to i children die. thank you so much for talking to us so you can talk to the l talking to us so you can talk to the family to see if they needed. thank you. this is happening all over this area. he will now go to one of the organisers. he is going to speak to the family. he is going to explain that he has potentially got a person and 15 kilometres away from here that can offer accommodation, that can offer a change of clothes, warm food. because it is cold here, we are in eastern europe, the temperatures do drop down. and what this particular person was saying is that they will give unlimited accommodation. it is difficult to know exactly how long people will need to be away from their homes,

away from ukraine. notjust poles but from further afield, we have these people who have come all the way from the czech republic, offering accommodation. what has motivated you to come all this way? well, the main motivation isjust seeing the news. we are in our warm, cosy homes and seeing this happening not so far away, approximately ten hours ride, we took a bus, filled it with suppliers, came here, reserved accommodation in the czech republic and now we have a place for 50 people which we can take from the border is here to czech republic and provide for them.— provide for them. when you are talkint to provide for them. when you are talking to the _ provide for them. when you are talking to the people _ provide for them. when you are talking to the people who i provide for them. when you are talking to the people who have | talking to the people who have literallyjust talking to the people who have literally just walked across the border, how are you finding them? it's very hard, actually. we hope that we — it's very hard, actually. we hope that we just come here and they will be gathering some people and we just take them, _ be gathering some people and we just take them, ask them if they want to 'oin

take them, ask them if they want to join us _ take them, ask them if they want to join us to— take them, ask them if they want to join us to prague. we also have accommodation for them, everything for free _ accommodation for them, everything for free. the drive is for free. sometimes they don't believe it. but it isjust _ sometimes they don't believe it. but it isjust like that. yeah, we have this sign— it isjust like that. yeah, we have this sign with us. we try to show to the people — this sign with us. we try to show to the people and approach them personally. and we ask them, do you want to— personally. and we ask them, do you want tojoin— personally. and we ask them, do you want tojoin us personally. and we ask them, do you want to join us to prague personally. and we ask them, do you want tojoin us to prague but most of them _ want tojoin us to prague but most of them already have families somewhere around. so this is not the best place _ somewhere around. so this is not the best place for us. we hope for more people _ best place for us. we hope for more people we — best place for us. we hope for more people. we are trying still. ifi people. we are trying still. if i can sa people. we are trying still. iti can say something but the people. we are trying still. iii can say something but the problem is there are people queueing on the ukrainian side. they have spent the whole night there, the whole day there. they are freezing. here, after a few hours, they have been that the whole night and it is all ladies, children, they have problems getting across. because border is stuck to some degree. so... if i may say something, that is something that should be dealt with by

responsible authorities. schroder thank you very much for speaking to us and we wish you the best of luck, we hope you get people taking up your offer —— thank you very much. as these guys were saying, there is a very real backlog on the border, just an overwhelming number of people on the ukrainian side that are trying to get through and we have been hearing about people waiting up to 60 hours in vehicles, those who abandon their cars and just walk across, again, for 20 hours. cars and just walk across, again, for20 hours. it cars and just walk across, again, for 20 hours. it is a difficult situation that, when they finally do come here, the people are hoping they get some kind of reception, at least a warm drink to warm them up so they can next start —— then start the nextjourney in a rather uncertain time. a lot of people, from ukraine especially, do have family members or friends from ukraine especially, do have family members orfriends in poland, there are a lot of strong relations

between the countries and so there are a million ukrainians who work in poland, so there are contacts but it is the initial kind of shell—shocked image of people who had literally just crossed over the border and that overwhelming sense of what do they do next? and authorities here, especially local organisations, are bringing buses over and when the bus comes, they swarm, they walk towards them and move towards the buses and try and get on and then move onto the next part of theirjourney further inland, where school halls, stadium halls, venues have been transformed into places where they can at least get some sleep and some rest, because, as that gentleman was saying, people have been waiting for hours and hours and hours on the ukrainian side of this border. the very real human toll of this. thank you very much indeed. ijust want to let you know the german

chancellor 0laf scholz is speaking at the moment and he has announced that germany is going to be investing more than 2% of gdp in defence every yearfrom investing more than 2% of gdp in defence every year from now on. they will invest more in their national security, they will defend every square metre of nato territory, he says and reserve the right for further sanctions without taboos and says putin will not change course overnight. he says the sanctions package against russia is unprecedented and says they believe putin wants to create a russian empire. also saying that germany needs to expand their renewable energy and be less dependent on individual suppliers. we did hear the ukrainian ambassador to the uk saying that if the offer of weapons from germany, a huge, radical new policy departure for germany since world war ii and, whilst welcome, is

coming too late, possibly too late because it is difficult for them to get weapons into ukraine, although they are still trying now. but you can see here, 0laf scholz speaking live in berlin and really being forced, it seems, to announce a very different political position, after facing a lot of criticism, i have to say, for not moving fast enough and far enough against moscow. let's go to moscow and speak tojenny hill, who, of course, has normally been based in berlin for us. if i can just ask you, on the german changing position festival, what you make of it? it position festival, what you make of it? , :, :, :, , position festival, what you make of it? , :,:, :, , :, position festival, what you make of it? , :, , :, ~ :, it? it is extraordinary. you know, if ou it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had — it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had told — it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had told me _ it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had told me just _ it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had told me just a - it? it is extraordinary. you know, if you had told me just a few i it? it is extraordinary. you know, i if you had told me just a few weeks ago that all of schultz would have said this, i would have thought you werejoking. you know, this is such a complete shift in tone, in policy, from germany. this is a government

which came to power vowing that it wanted a values —based foreign policy. little did it now, it would be tested so soon as to exactly what it meant by that and exactly as to what it was going to do about it. this is a coalition government. the green party were particularly keen, they had pledged as a government that they were going to further restrict arms exports first of all and now we have seen they are going to send weapons to ukraine and they are going to take away some of the restrictions on exporting arms to conflict zones, which has been one of the reasons why they said they couldn't send weapons to ukraine. we are also seeing the extraordinary talk about spending on defence, something germany has resisted for largely historical reasons but this government does have an ideology which says we prefer to use diplomacy, ratherthan which says we prefer to use diplomacy, rather than engage in war but a lot of people in germany, political, other walks of life, but a lot of people in germany, political, otherwalks of life, have been saying they were really shocked

by the invasion, they did not see it coming and i think they have said we have to shift our position. they have to shift our position. they have always said, you know, we are prepared to adapt to events but no one expected this and it is quite surprising, i think, one expected this and it is quite surprising, ithink, that one expected this and it is quite surprising, i think, that they are so fast on their feet in turning around. we are seeing the german chancellor talking about very quickly trying to build some liquid natural gas terminals, that means germany won't be so reliant on gas from russia in the future. this is a completely new world for all of us, but, for germany in particular, i think. : : , :, , think. and it reflects the gravity ofthe think. and it reflects the gravity of the situation, _ think. and it reflects the gravity of the situation, the _ think. and it reflects the gravity of the situation, the fact - think. and it reflects the gravity of the situation, the fact that, l of the situation, the fact that, around the globe, it seems people view this move by moscow is not something that is going to be fixed quickly. what are you hearing from the kremlin at the moment on their plans, if any? the kremlin at the moment on their plans, ifany? i don't the kremlin at the moment on their plans, if any? i don't know what level of briefing you are getting but obviously there is some expectation, fears, that they would

be able to take the capital overnight and that hasn't happened. well, we have had a briefing from the defence ministry here overnight and they don't talk about kyiv particularly, they say they have made some gains, captured a couple of southern cities, they claim and they talk very specifically about fighting going on in the east of the country. remember, moscow casts this invasion, not that you are allowed to call it an invasion, a war or an attack if you are russian media, they cast this invasion is a necessary rescue, if you like, of the russian speaking populations in eastern ukraine against what they would describe as the aggression from the ukrainian government. so we heard a lot about fighting in eastern ukraine, accusations that ukrainian forces have been targeting residential areas, ukrainian forces have been targeting residentialareas, injuring civilians, while we are hearing from the ukrainians that actually the reverse is happening and it is russian troops who are causing

injury among civilians and damaged to residential areas. vladimir putin has given a statement thanking his russian soldiers and telling them what they are doing in ukraine is courageous. what they are doing in ukraine is courageous-— what they are doing in ukraine is courateous, , a, , : :, courageous. jenny hill in moscow, thank ou courageous. jenny hill in moscow, thank you very _ courageous. jenny hill in moscow, thank you very much _ courageous. jenny hill in moscow, thank you very much indeed i courageous. jenny hill in moscow, thank you very much indeed for i courageous. jenny hill in moscow, i thank you very much indeed for that for now. and ijust want to let you know that it has been reported that belgium is going to close its airspace to all russian airlines, and also germany, from 2pm today, i am being told and we know they are g7 meeting and there has been speculation that europe as a whole could possibly come together to close airspace to all russian flights. let's speak tojohn strickland, director of flights. let's speak tojohn strickland, director oijs consulting. what impact will it have if europe does refuse to allow russian flights? fin if europe does refuse to allow russian flights?— if europe does refuse to allow russian flights? on the face of it, the impact _ russian flights? on the face of it, the impact will — russian flights? on the face of it, the impact will be _ russian flights? on the face of it, the impact will be that _ russian flights? on the face of it, the impact will be that russian i the impact will be that russian airlines will not be able to fly into europe. of course, the uk

already put such a ban in place last week and aeroflot, than principal operator in europe but the bigger implication as possible retaliation. we saw that with the uk, russia immediately putting a ban on british carriers, not only flying into russia, which is one issue, but flying into russian airspace. the more we see countries around the west of europe and the eu in particular putting bans in place, we are likely to see a similar retaliation and, at the moment, it is not only a case of flying into russian cities, the bigger issue is that russian airspace is critical for over flights to many parts of asia from europe, it is the fastest geographic routine and naturally thatis geographic routine and naturally that is the one airlines take. if that is the one airlines take. if thatis that is the one airlines take. if that is not available, it gives massive headaches to airlines having to recalibrate routes and even having to stop for fuel because of those longer flights and of course adding a lot more cost in fuel as

well. : , :, i. �*, adding a lot more cost in fuel as well. : , :, �*, :, well. and in terms of everyone's own tlobal well. and in terms of everyone's own global travel. — well. and in terms of everyone's own globaltravel, normal— well. and in terms of everyone's own global travel, normal civilian - global travel, normal civilian travel, if this war is protracted, what impact is it going to have, you know, going into the summer even potentially?— potentially? well, the stranger savint potentially? well, the stranger saving grace — potentially? well, the stranger saving grace right _ potentially? well, the stranger saving grace right now- potentially? well, the stranger saving grace right now is, i potentially? well, the stranger i saving grace right now is, because of the ongoing challenge of coming out of the coronavirus pandemic, a lot of asia is closed off, china in particular is still effectively closed to international travel. those routes that i talk about that over fly normally in siberia are pretty well nonexistent from a passenger point of view right now, so the airlines already were not gaining revenues from that normally important source. it is different for many cargo flows between asia and europe and so there is an implication therefore airlines on those services, but, more widely, airlines were just looking, as we

get through the 0micron variant, to perhaps a more optimistic summer with regards to travel and, at the moment, they will probably still be cautiously hopeful, airlines were looking to open up primarily some destinations into europe and across the north atlantic from europe, these are very big airlines for this part of the world but more progressively, if they were to open up progressively, if they were to open up later in the year and the situation we are in no is an evolving one, it's not going to change, it will become a big match —— much bigger issue and customer confidence over willingness to travel, even if it is not a question of confidence regards to the conflict, willingness to take flights which will be more expensive and longer are from an operating point of view and a customer point of view. , :, , ,:, point of view and a customer point of view. , :_ :, :, of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, not linked of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, rrot linked to — of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, not linked to this, _ of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, not linked to this, i _ of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, not linked to this, i should _ of view. yesterday, we saw heathrow, not linked to this, i should say, - not linked to this, i should say, unable to get flights out in the

morning and they said there wasn't any cyber attack and they did obviously raise the possibility in future, we don't know what kind of cyber destruction we could see as well. i guess everyone is prepared for that. i well. i guess everyone is prepared for that. ., :, well. i guess everyone is prepared for that. ,, :, , , for that. i think that will be very much in the _ for that. i think that will be very much in the minds _ for that. i think that will be very much in the minds of _ for that. i think that will be very much in the minds of airline i much in the minds of airline management. the problem yesterday was related to the british airways it system. there had been speculation about whether it might have been a cyber attack and the airline has clearly denied that and described it as a multitude of problems coalescing at once, giving them that particular challenge and resulting in cancellations but certainly airlines, like many industries, are it reliant in every respect and not simply from the point of view of customer service but in terms of navigation systems, operating systems, everything so there is a high degree of sensitivity about that. john strickland. _ sensitivity about that. john strickland, thank - sensitivity about that. john strickland, thank you i sensitivity about that. john strickland, thank you very | sensitivity about that. john strickland, thank you very much indeed. we are just getting some casualty numbers reported from ukraine. we are being told that the

number of civilians from the ombudsman in ukraine killed is more than 210 ukrainian civilians, with more than 1100 wounded in the russian invasion. they say," targeting of residential buildings, hospitals, kindergartens and schools" and they are saying russia is violating international law. the instances of people killed, this is from the ukrainians, are one child killed, two children and two adults wounded in the shelling of a hospital in kyiv. they talk about a car being attacked by a russian reconnaissance team leaving children and adults wounded and a bus with

civilians has been attacked by russian tanks, denying access to ambulances in 0khtyrka. we have seen an apartment block attacks, one woman was killed when an apartment block in kharkiv was held by a missile and they say an orphanage has also been shelled and a boss has been attacked. we can't obviously independently verify any of that information, but that is what we are being told by our colleagues and thatis being told by our colleagues and that is what is being reported and claimed by the ukrainian ombudsman, so they are saying more than 200 ukrainian civilians killed and more than 1,000 wounded. we cannot verify any of that but that is what is

being reported at present. we know, of course, that the toll on civilians is enormous in so many regards and part of the fallout of all of this is going to be people leaving ukraine and needing somewhere safe to come. here in the uk, the foreign secretary has urged the russians not to escalate the conflict and said the uk is looking at what more it can do to support ukraine. let's speak to our political correspondent ione wells. just first of all, on military support, financial support, sanctions, where is the uk government?— sanctions, where is the uk government? , :, ., sanctions, where is the uk government? , :, :, ., government? the update we have had this weekend — government? the update we have had this weekend is _ government? the update we have had this weekend is the _ government? the update we have had this weekend is the uk _ government? the update we have had this weekend is the uk government, l this weekend is the uk government, at chairing a sort of virtual donor conference with 25 other nations, did agree along with those nations to a new big package of lethal aid, military aid and humanitarian support and this includes things like anti—tank weapons, artillery, fire that can be used by the

ukrainian military as well. yesterday, we heard from the armed forces minister who said we are seeing evidence and footage of that equipment being put to use by ukrainian forces fighting off the russian invasion. i understand that kind of military support is going to be ongoing. the uk hopes that, by offering to facilitate the coordination of some of the support and delivery of this support, they will encourage further donations from other nations as well. fin will encourage further donations from other nations as well. on the tuestions from other nations as well. on the questions of _ from other nations as well. on the questions of refugees _ from other nations as well. on the questions of refugees who - from other nations as well. on the questions of refugees who might l from other nations as well. on the i questions of refugees who might need to come to the uk, we haven't seen that in vast numbers yet but obviously could happen in 4 million people need to leave ukraine, as some of the un figures estimate. there has been a war of words between the conservatives and the labour party. tell us where we are on that. fit labour party. tell us where we are on that. : :, :, on that. at the moment, the home office have — on that. at the moment, the home office have said _ on that. at the moment, the home office have said they _ on that. at the moment, the home office have said they are _ 0ffice have said they are prioritising british nationals and their dependents in the ukraine who want to come to the uk. at the moment, these are services in ukraine are suspended for everybody apart from those british nationals and dependents trying to get out but

they have said other ukrainians trying to flee, if they do make it to a neighbouring country or indeed any other state country, they can apply for a visa to study or work in the uk under the current points—based immigration system. that is something which has received some criticism, because there are still questions about what support and schemes may be put in place for those who just want to seek refuge as refugees and earlier, we heard from the labour shadow foreign secretary david lammy who said, at the moment, there was too much bureaucracy getting in a way of supporting some of these people. we have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to the scheme that we offered _ is equivalent to the scheme that we offered people after balkans crisis. 0ur offered people after balkans crisis. our country has a generous history, look at _ our country has a generous history, look at those who were fleeing edm in, look at those who were fleeing edm in. the _ look at those who were fleeing edm in, the ugandan asians —— idi amin. instead, _ in, the ugandan asians —— idi amin. instead, we— in, the ugandan asians —— idi amin. instead, we have a scheme where we are asking _ instead, we have a scheme where we are asking people tojump through hoops _ are asking people tojump through hoops. there is bureaucracy, red

tape _ hoops. there is bureaucracy, red tape. why— hoops. there is bureaucracy, red tape. why would we ask people what their salary— tape. why would we ask people what their salary levels are when they are fleeing war? that is immoral. so are fleeing war? that is immoral. accusations are fleeing war? that is immoral. ’sr accusations that are fleeing war? that is immoral. 5r accusations that the government is being immoral by making people apply for these sorts of schemes. we are hearing from the un that the refugee tally tops 368000 and rising. that’s tally tops 368000 and rising. that's ri . ht, tally tops 368000 and rising. that's right, hundreds _ tally tops 368000 and rising. that's right, hundreds of _ tally tops 368000 and rising. that's right, hundreds of thousands - tally tops 368000 and rising. “t"isgt�*s right, hundreds of thousands of people have fled to neighbouring countries, thousands of people certainly trying to flee ukraine. some may want to settle in neighbouring countries, others may want to come to the uk and this is why we have heard from the foreign secretary liz truss this morning as well. she said earlier today to the bbc that they were looking at everything they could possibly do to try to see how we can accommodate more of these refugees. it is try to see how we can accommodate more of these refugees.— more of these refugees. it is a desperate _ more of these refugees. it is a desperate situation. _ more of these refugees. it is a desperate situation. we i more of these refugees. it is a desperate situation. we are i more of these refugees. it is a i desperate situation. we are working with the _ desperate situation. we are working with the united _ desperate situation. we are working with the united nations, _ desperate situation. we are working with the united nations, with- desperate situation. we are working with the united nations, with the i with the united nations, with the red cross, — with the united nations, with the red cross, to— with the united nations, with the red cross, to keep _ with the united nations, with the red cross, to keep humanitarian| red cross, to keep humanitarian corridors— red cross, to keep humanitarian corridors open _ red cross, to keep humanitarian corridors open. we _ red cross, to keep humanitarian corridors open. we have - red cross, to keep humanitarian corridors open. we have put- red cross, to keep humanitarian i corridors open. we have put support into the _ corridors open. we have put support into the neighbouring _ corridors open. we have put support into the neighbouring countries - corridors open. we have put support into the neighbouring countries like i into the neighbouring countries like slovakia _ into the neighbouring countries like slovakia and — into the neighbouring countries like slovakia and poland _ into the neighbouring countries like slovakia and poland to _ into the neighbouring countries like slovakia and poland to help - into the neighbouring countries like slovakia and poland to help with i into the neighbouring countries like i slovakia and poland to help with the refugee _ slovakia and poland to help with the refugee crisis — slovakia and poland to help with the refugee crisis and, _ slovakia and poland to help with the refugee crisis and, of _ slovakia and poland to help with the refugee crisis and, of course, - refugee crisis and, of course, britain — refugee crisis and, of course, britain has _ refugee crisis and, of course, britain has always _ refugee crisis and, of course,

britain has always welcomed i refugee crisis and, of course, i britain has always welcomed the refugees— britain has always welcomed the refugees fleeing _ britain has always welcomed the refugees fleeing from _ britain has always welcomed the refugees fleeing from war - britain has always welcomed the refugees fleeing from war and l britain has always welcomed the l refugees fleeing from war and we britain has always welcomed the - refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently— refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently looking _ refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently looking at _ refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently looking at what _ refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently looking at what more - refugees fleeing from war and we are urgently looking at what more we - refugees fleeing from war and we arei urgently looking at what more we can do to facilitate — urgently looking at what more we can do to facilitate that, _ urgently looking at what more we can do to facilitate that, but, _ do to facilitate that, but, ultimately. _ do to facilitate that, but, ultimately, what - do to facilitate that, but, ultimately, what we - do to facilitate that, but, | ultimately, what we need do to facilitate that, but, i ultimately, what we need to do to facilitate that, but, - ultimately, what we need to make sure is— ultimately, what we need to make sure is that — ultimately, what we need to make sure is that we _ ultimately, what we need to make sure is that we protect _ ultimately, what we need to make sure is that we protect ukraine - ultimately, what we need to make sure is that we protect ukraine as| ultimately, what we need to makel sure is that we protect ukraine as a sovereign _ sure is that we protect ukraine as a sovereign democracy. _ sure is that we protect ukraine as a sovereign democracy. ultimately, i sure is that we protect ukraine as a . sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people _ sovereign democracy. ultimately, the peopte of— sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people of ukraine _ sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people of ukraine want _ sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people of ukraine want to _ sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people of ukraine want to live - sovereign democracy. ultimately, the people of ukraine want to live in - people of ukraine want to live in ukraine — people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and _ people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and that _ people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and that is _ people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and that is why- people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and that is why they - people of ukraine want to live in ukraine and that is why they are| ukraine and that is why they are fighting — ukraine and that is why they are fi . htinu. . ukraine and that is why they are fiuuhtin. . ., fighting. that was the foreign secretary liz _ fighting. that was the foreign secretary liz truss _ fighting. that was the foreign secretary liz truss saying - fighting. that was the foreign secretary liz truss saying the | fighting. that was the foreign i secretary liz truss saying the uk government is looking at what more they can do. i think it is likely we can probably expect something announced shortly. there are people calling for similar schemes to be set up to the one set up after the taliban takeover in afghanistan last summer. at the moment, the official line from the home office is they are working with their european counterparts to find an agreed solution that would be both practical but also one that serves the interests of the ukrainian people. the interests of the ukrainian --eole. . ~' ,, the interests of the ukrainian --eole. . ~' , the interests of the ukrainian --eole. . ~ , . people. thank you very much indeed. just let me remind _ people. thank you very much indeed. just let me remind you _ people. thank you very much indeed. just let me remind you of— people. thank you very much indeed. just let me remind you of the - people. thank you very much indeed. just let me remind you of the latest l just let me remind you of the latest figure we are getting from the un, who say the refugee number is over 368,000 people who have left and

rising. we heard, of course, from the un that there is a great deal of internal displacement of people within ukraine, but also, at the moment, as you can see, 368,000 people have fled the borders, it is day four after the invasion and, despite the fact that many were surprised and shocked that the invasion actually happened and despite the fact that men have not been allowed in many cases to leave the country, mostly women and children leaving, that number already in the hundreds of thousands and those people are going to need support. they are leaving to their neighbouring countries, some to friends, to family but some, of course, will end up needing assistance and help for an unknown period of time and that is the question that is facing the international community who are working on this whole refugee

question. let's look at the military strategy side of this. i am joined by professor michael clarke, former director—general of the royal united services institute. can you tell me what your assessment of the military picture is on the ground at present at the moment?— picture is on the ground at present at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four — at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four of _ at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four of this _ at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four of this war _ at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four of this war and - at the moment? well, so far, we are into day four of this war and the - into day four of this war and the general view amongst military analysts was that if the russians don't do this quickly, within two or three days, then they start to pay a very heavy political cost, which i think we are seeing today. the announcement by all of shows that germany will spend 2% on gdp on defence is the biggest change in nato for a generation so already the costs are mounting and, militarily, the russian push on several fronts seems to have stalled for the time being, so they have not surrounded kyiv yet, although they will. they have not taken the whole of luhansk

and donetsk, they have moved out of separatist areas which were only occupied by a third of those regions and i am sure they are expected to just walk into the rest of the regions because they are russian speakers and they have gone from occupying a third to a half. they haven't made up the land corridor between crimea and the donbas region and there is a big discussion over whether they have actually taken the little poll, which they claim to have done, which would link up melitopol and mariupol. so it looks like, in all areas, melitopol and mariupol. so it looks like, in allareas, although melitopol and mariupol. so it looks like, in all areas, although they can prevail, they haven't so far and they're all sorts of stories that russians are, astonishingly, after three days, are running out of some quite important supplies. if they want to reinforce, which they will, they have only committed just over half of their troops available the operation so far and they are

obviously trying to do this with a, comparatively in warfare, a light touch, which is to use relatively light forces to rush into key cities in ukraine, assuming, ithink, that they would be at least kind of welcomed or at least that the population stayed indoors and would accept what is happening and they are now faced with the dilemma of how rough are they going to be? the russians have shown elsewhere, certainly in chechnya and in syria, that they are prepared to be completely and utterly ruthless and brutal and target civilian areas and what they are facing now is the question of do they bring their big artillery forward, their big rockets forward and start to reap and the suburbs of the cities they have to take? and, of course, that question really arises in kyiv and they are facing that dilemma now as we speak. how much fighting are they prepared to take or will they fall into the

dilemma of, as it were, destroying kyiv to liberate it, which is the great problem for military forces. obviously, the civilian casualty toll, the military casualty toll, would potentially be enormous and there would presumably be some resistance even within russian forces to that, within russian political leadership to that. there does seem _ political leadership to that. there does seem to _ political leadership to that. there does seem to be _ political leadership to that. there does seem to be a _ political leadership to that. there does seem to be a lack _ political leadership to that. there does seem to be a lack of - political leadership to that. there does seem to be a lack of tactical awareness within russian forces. the fragmentary reports that have been coming in overnight speak of a sort of lacklustre force, russian soldiers who are not entirely sure what they are doing and the more ukrainians call out to them in russian and sand, as it were, rather friendly or mocking, the more confused they may turn out to be and if russian forces had to start to work their way through, god help us, though suburbs of kyiv, it would be

dreadful. a city of 3 million people, with all of the modern buildings of a vibrant city, the destruction would be awful and, for the attackers, working your way through a city or suburbs, is the most difficult military task of all to perform, it is the most dangerous, the nastiest and the one that creates the greatest brutality and ordinary russian soldiers, particularly some of the conscripts, must wonder what on earth they may be doing if they start to embark on that. the russians are facing the issue now, today and tomorrow, as to whether they are prepared to start that process or whether president putin might begin to look for a way out. . . putin might begin to look for a way out. . , . ., _, putin might begin to look for a way out. ., , ., ., y., ., out. can i 'ust read to you a tweet that out. can ijust read to you a tweet that president _ out. can ijust read to you a tweet that president zelenskyy, - out. can ijust read to you a tweet that president zelenskyy, the - that president zelenskyy, the ukrainian leader, has put out, saying that ukraine has admitted its application against russia to the icj, the international court for justice.

when you use the word genocide, obviously, that is a very strong, striking term, what do you make of that statement? he striking term, what do you make of that statement?— that statement? he would have trouble making _ that statement? he would have trouble making the _ that statement? he would have trouble making the word - that statement? he would have i trouble making the word genocide stick in an international court, but deliberately targeting civilian areas or facilities or deliberately targeting civilians is absolutely a war crime and if the russians start to do that, at the moment, they are claiming there have been a few accidents where they have rocketed blocks of flats and so on and they will keep on claiming there have been a few accidents, but if it is testable that they have been targeting civilian areas, which is exactly what they did in chechnya and what they did like there was no tomorrow in aleppo and other syrian cities they were involved in, then thatis cities they were involved in, then that is a war crime.—

that is a war crime. thank you, professor _ that is a war crime. thank you, professor michael _ that is a war crime. thank you, professor michael clark, - that is a war crime. thank you, professor michael clark, thank| that is a war crime. thank you, - professor michael clark, thank you very much. the city governor of kharkiv is fully controlled by ukraine. this is the live shot in ukraine. hello. a lot of sunshine on the way for the uk today, perhaps, if anything, the sunshine more widespread than yesterday. yesterday, we had a weather front draped across scotland and northern ireland. today, that front will still be close by, but this big area of high pressure sitting across the continent, well, if anything, it will tend to push back on it somewhat. so i think across eastern scotland, for example, and perhaps to the east of northern ireland, there will be more brightness around, particularly through the afternoon, and we'll see the cloud eventually, hopefully shifting offshore, allowing some brightness into the western isles for a time. winds picking up across the northwest of scotland, we could see gusts up to a0 miles per hour through the second half of the day. in terms of the temperatures,

perhaps a shade down on yesterday highs of nine to ii, the odd spot could get up to 12 degrees. through the evening and overnight, however, we will see some thicker, more meaningful cloud approaching from the west as another area of low pressure starts to take influence on our weather. it will mean a milder night for the majority of the uk. just a chance, i think, of a few spots in easternmost england catching a frost as we look at the start of monday. generally, though, under the cloud, lows of five to eight and obviously under the cloud, a much greyer start to monday and much wetter start as well. and this front is going to be waving away as it comes in from the atlantic. what does that mean? well, itjust means it's not very easy to plot its progress with high confidence. it looks like wet weather, certainly for northern england, wales and the south—west of england through the daylight hours on monday. southern scotland catching some rain as well. northern scotland, northern ireland hopefully seeing something a little bit brighter, though the rain could bother the east of northern ireland through the day, the wetter conditions at the moment, our forecast has them making their way

through eastern england overnight into the small hours of tuesday, with the weather front then draping down towards the continent through the day on tuesday. but that position is subject to some question. if anything, it looks like there could be some heavier rain running in towards the south west of england, perhaps as far north as south wales and the south midlands later on in the day on tuesday. generally, as a rule of thumb for tuesday, the further north you are, the better your chances will be of being dry and bright. a more mixed story, though for wednesday and thursday generally more cloud for all parts of the uk and some outbreaks of rain at times too.

this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. russia steps up its attack on ukraine — a missile strike on an oil terminal just outside kyiv — fears now of toxic fumes. there's been heavy fighting in ukraine's second—largest city, kharkiv, where russian infantry vehicles have been seen driving through residential areas. this is the scene in the capital as the country enters the fourth day of its invasion. president zelensky has rejected negotiations with moscow in minsk and gave this update. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. - again, the shelling, again the bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure.

western allies banks from the financial system swift. and i and on the polish ukrainian border where thousands of people are continuing to crossover. welcome to bbc news. the russian assault on ukraine is continuing on several fronts, as the invasion enters its fourth day. every street fighting is under way in the second city of kharkiv in the north—east of the country. there are

reports of ukrainian fighters firing rocket propelled grenades on street corners and russian troops on foot leaving behind armoured vehicles. in the last few minutes the mayor of kharkiv said ukraine is still in control of the city. today president volodymyr zelensky accused russian troops of deliberately bombarding civilian residential areas in what he called a brittle night of attacks. he said he is open to honest dogs with moscow but ruled out negotiations being held in the belarusian capital of minsk, saying the neighbouring country is being used to launch attacks. a large blast has been heard to the west of the capital kyiv and an oil depot was also blown up because thursday was also blown up because thursday was night. ukrainian media is reporting russian forces occupy a city desert of the country. it is estimated 368,000 people have now

fled ukraine to escape the conflict. our correspondence angers crawford his latest. this is the fourth night of russia's attack. an oil pipeline hit near kharkiv. in the city itself signs of a fierce defence, but still be russian forces come. ukraine's president again addressed his people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. - the shelling and bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers of peace talks in neighbouring belarus. a direct hit on an oil depot this time close to an airstrip south of kyiv with toxic smoke filling the air. people told to close their windows and stay indoors. the enemy wants to destroy

everything, says the local mayor. but it seems this was not the decisive night for ukraine's capital that some had feared. a curfew still in force, the city's residents were told to stay off the streets until monday. with the city's mayor and former heavyweight boxer warning of russian infiltrators. the situation in the capital is complex and tense, he said, the enemy has not broken into the city but saboteurs are operating. kyiv�*s people remained defiant. these women singing the national anson as they pack supplies with the front line. to the west, desperate are still trying to escape with long queues at border crossings are leaving the country

we thought it was just informational war. - but we see what happened. we don't understand why putin does it. i we need help from world. we say, help, help, help, help us. we are here. we are alone here. russia has not achieved the quick victory it wanted and kyiv has not fallen. president putin paid tribute to what he called troops heroically fulfilling their military duty. and, in truth, on the southern front, the russian forces have gained ground. with more troops and armour waiting in reserve. angus crawford, bbc news. lyse doucet is in the capital kyiv for us. how has it been overnight?

in the last few minutes there has been two explosions in the distance. you hear it like rolling thunder hearin you hear it like rolling thunder hear in the centre. we have been told the russian forces are as close as ten miles in some area, others 20 miles. we have seen images this morning, reports from areas like, which is not farfrom morning, reports from areas like, which is not far from the capital kyiv, 15—20 kilometres but intense fighting on the streets. russian armoured vehicles going in, also warplanes in the skies but the of kyiv is still eerily quiet. last night when the air raid sirens sounded, when there were warnings to residents of the city to go underground, to stay underground, this was going to be a hard night, we heard from russian mps that one of the phrases used as exploding

russians, they will throw everything they have at us, the night was not as intense as people had feared but there is a feeling of dread here, of waiting, this is day four. the russian advance seems to have stalled on the edges of the city and the main focus right now seems to be the main focus right now seems to be the second largest city, car cave, which is closer to the russian border. in which is closer to the russian border. . which is closer to the russian border. , ., ., . , , . border. in terms of how that russian assault is being _ border. in terms of how that russian assault is being carried _ border. in terms of how that russian assault is being carried out, - border. in terms of how that russian assault is being carried out, is - border. in terms of how that russian assault is being carried out, is it - assault is being carried out, is it possible tojudge assault is being carried out, is it possible to judge the risk to civilians of getting some casualties figures giving to us. the civilians of getting some casualties figures giving to us.— figures giving to us. the casualties fiuures figures giving to us. the casualties figures mounted _ figures giving to us. the casualties figures mounted by _ figures giving to us. the casualties figures mounted by the _ figures giving to us. the casualties figures mounted by the day. - figures giving to us. the casualties figures mounted by the day. we i figures giving to us. the casualtiesl figures mounted by the day. we are still waiting for an updated figure, i don't know whether you can hear the rumble, it is distant from where we are now. at different points around the capital, but yesterday

the ministry of health said there were almost 200 civilian deaths, including children. more than 1000 injuries. of course there is the trauma as well, you see children in the bomb shelters trying to make sense of having to live underground, how do parents explain to children you can't go outside today, you have to stay in the dark and they had to do that from five last night. ukrainian time. to eight o'clock on monday ukrainian time. war is not just troops in trenches of the we are getting all the images of war planes and armoured vehicles but the suffering of civilians is immense but they should also say we are getting reports of extraordinary defiance by, and courage by civilians, reports coming this morning where an entire village is don't think the russian soldiers as

they advance. yesterday there was another video from northern ukraine about villagers coming out in the streets trying to stop russian tanks. there is a really intense patriotism now and a disbelief that neighbouring russians can actually be coming into ukraine to fight. is be coming into ukraine to fight. is itjust a matter of be coming into ukraine to fight. is it just a matter of time before itjust a matter of time before russian forces overwhelm kyiv where you are at the other major cities, or is it at all possible that with some outside support that ukraine can resist? this some outside support that ukraine can resist? �* . . , some outside support that ukraine can resist? . , . , . , , ., can resist? as any military planner will tell you _ can resist? as any military planner will tell you they _ can resist? as any military planner will tell you they have _ can resist? as any military planner will tell you they have this - can resist? as any military planner will tell you they have this phrase l will tell you they have this phrase were plans never survive contact with the enemy. if you look at the numbers, the ukrainian army is certainly outgunned and out manned ijy certainly outgunned and out manned by the russian army it is on land or sea and the naval fleet or in the air, russian warplanes, but war doesn'tjust come down to that, it

is about planning and logistics, strategy and time and time again in asymmetric warfare we have seen what smaller less mighty rivals have been able to defeat much more powerful military forces. obviously the stories are different. history is different but in afghanistan six month ago we saw the taliban returning 20 years after they had been ousted from power by the world's most powerful army, so war is unpredictable. there was an expectation at the start of this invasion that the russian tanks and armoured vehicles would sweep into kyiv and it would just be a matter of a very short time and they would overwhelm, but ukrainians are putting up to to use were surprising, they would say you should have expected that from us, they have put up resistance, the ukrainian army is a better army that in 2014 when roger basically swept

into crimea and into eastern ukraine and also civilians are better prepared this time. they have been signing up for prepared this time. they have been signing upfortraining, prepared this time. they have been signing up for training, signing up to pick up guns and patriotism that should have —— sort of role sense of patriotism and pride and courage that we are seeing on streets across this country is absolutely extraordinary. the risk is still there and the danger is still ever present. there and the danger is still ever resent. , . there and the danger is still ever resent. , , ., there and the danger is still ever resenth , ., ., ., present. just for the normal civilians who _ present. just for the normal civilians who are _ present. just for the normal civilians who are still - present. just for the normal civilians who are still in - present. just for the normal. civilians who are still in these cities including where you are now, what has it been like in the last few days, because it must be utterly terrifying, i am sure possible to sleep properly, people worried about food and shelter and they must be being worried about injured and hurt and worse. life being worried about in'ured and hurt and worse. . , ., and worse. life has moved underground _ and worse. life has moved underground for _ and worse. life has moved underground for the - and worse. life has moved underground for the vast l and worse. life has moved - underground for the vast majority of this country, more than 4 million, it is a subterranean world now, when we talk to people on the day since

they are often on their phones trying to contact any members and other parts of the country or the relatives abroad were contacting them, it was interesting that we did, one of our live broadcast from a basement and someone in the united states, someone in canada and some in europe saw two people in the distance behind us and those to be putting up was inside my relatives saw us on tv, they know we are safe, this is an anxiety which seems to be going right around the world. the anxiety is deepest here but also there is the anxiety of people who stay at the anxiety of people who leave. we had ukrainian colleagues who have left kyiv with really heavy heart. they wanted to stay to tell the story but they had to think of the story but they had to think of the children, the parents, obviously family comes first but these are professional journalists who family comes first but these are professionaljournalists who know their country is now under attack and they wanted to be who they are

journalists, but now they have to be ukrainians, fighting for their lives and to protect their families. obviously we know people have been living underground but how protected are you and everyone there? in these shelters or in tube stations because it depends on the nature of the attacks, the frosty of the attacks represent. h attacks, the frosty of the attacks re - resent. ~ attacks, the frosty of the attacks reresent. ~ , , represent. i think in shelters across ukraine _ represent. i think in shelters across ukraine the _ represent. i think in shelters across ukraine the concern l represent. i think in shelters i across ukraine the concern will represent. i think in shelters - across ukraine the concern will be how long will this go on? when will food run out, when the water run out? will the water be cut off, will be alexis to be cut off? what about the internet, so for now most people seem to be, there is still electricity and water but for example afghan friends are contacting me saying my family is in this hotel and the basement, they have run out of food, others are saying we can't get out, frankly, we can get out, it is really hard to find cars, fuel, so make no mistake

this is an increasingly dangerous and painful time for tens of millions of people across this country. millions of people across this count . . ~ millions of people across this count . . ,, i. millions of people across this count . . ~' ,, , millions of people across this count . . ,, , . country. thank you very much. it has been reported _ country. thank you very much. it has been reported around _ country. thank you very much. it has been reported around 150,000 - country. thank you very much. it has. been reported around 150,000 people have crossed into poland. we will go to the polish border now with ukraine was to my colleague as they are. we have seen people absolutely terrified and wanting to get out to a safe neighbour. this terrified and wanting to get out to a safe neighbour.— terrified and wanting to get out to a safe neighbour. this is the border crossin: a safe neighbour. this is the border crossing at — a safe neighbour. this is the border crossing at medicare, _ a safe neighbour. this is the border crossing at medicare, one - a safe neighbour. this is the border crossing at medicare, one of - a safe neighbour. this is the border crossing at medicare, one of a - crossing at medicare, one of a number of crossings on the border and this is the worst port of call the people who have managed to get across the border, this is where they come to, an emergency reception area where you have people ringing close, it gets very cold overnight

this crossing is open all night and we believe around 150,000 people have left the rangers to enter into poland, figures are higher of much people in total who have left ukraine at the moment and predominately women and children are leaving because ukrainians men between the ages of 15 and 60 have been conscripted to stay and support the ukrainian army. the situation here is you have so may people going through and this is their first port of call. there are lots and lots of volunteers who have come, hundreds of people from around the area have come to provide support and provide aid. one of them is svetlana, who we have grabbed very quickly. i know you have been serving strings to people, making sandwiches. you actually originally from ukraine and you have been in poland for around two years. you have been here since

the very beginning of people coming through. you have been here since friday and a mixture of ukrainian and polish adding a share, but how has it been so far out other people coming across, how do you find them?

let me trust it with planner and some of her colleagues have been here for days now since friday, basically just here for days now since friday, basicallyjust made sandwiches, world rinks, because the people coming over, especially the women and children, predominantly who were initially coming over we just absolutely exhausted because of the tailbacks on the other side and svetlana, i have to ask, of course you are originally ukrainian, how do you are originally ukrainian, how do you feel about what is going on over the borderjust there? wow, svetla na wow, svetlana is saying, she is absolutely lost for words when it comes to what is happening, her friends called her saying that work

has started so originally svetlana's home is in a town which is near an army base which is one of those first hit and one of those that felt the first shock of war initially. thank you so much for speaking to us. we really appreciate your time and i know it is an emotive subject but we really value your words and wish you the best of luck with what you're doing. there so many people here that have been galvanised and are rallying together to try and help the people that have come over. a lot of them have been walking over by foot and you continuously see people just bringing their little wheelie cases of items that i think that can drop with them to come over and there are children, it is not just people ukraine as well, there

are various different nationalities coming over who were in ukraine and managed to get across the border but like i say, it is predominately women and children at the moment. a huge effort that is taking place. we willjust panic across, the amount of clothes that have been let, water bottles, so when people come here they can just choose what they need and then carry on with their journeys. buses have been organised by the local community to move them on into more organised places, but this is the first port of call of those people that have managed to get across initially from ukraine. thousands of people. as you are saying, around 150,000 people already known to have crossed just into poland. the un saying that the number of people who have left ukraine much, much higher and again it is difficult to say how long people will be here for because of

the fast—moving changing situation backin the fast—moving changing situation back in ukraine. the fast-moving changing situation back in ukraine.— the fast-moving changing situation back in ukraine. thank you very much indeed for that _ back in ukraine. thank you very much indeed for that update. _ back in ukraine. thank you very much indeed for that update. we _ back in ukraine. thank you very much indeed for that update. we are - indeed for that update. we are seeing projections of about forming people potentially leaving ukraine in the coming days and weeks. just to let you know, on the prospect of talks, a russian delegation has arrived in belarus and has said it will give ukrainian government until three o'clock local time to confirm its participation in peace talks. the ukrainian leader presidents lenski has repeatedly said he will negotiate. he has called for talks but not in belarus because of its facilitation of the russian invasion. our correspondence in moscowjenny hill is saying at all and there is little hope of the mattek way out of hostilities and moscow knows the ukrainian might not agree to talks in a country that is

not neutral. ukraine has welcomed talks with turkey and as wet and to hold peace talks. the canon said this morning that larry putin has spoken to the azerbaijan leader, but there is little suggest he is going to get any further. moscow still accusing kyiv of refusing to negotiate. we know international pressure continues on moscow. the internationaljudo confederation suspended the russian leader, who is a black belt, from his role as its honorary president, just one move of any. we are hearing a number of european countries, italy's latest, but we have heard from iceland, germany, many others, belgium, saying that i and are going to close their airspace to russian aircraft. they are seeing germany saying it is now about to be ramping up its defence spending also. a number of pressure points being announced today. on moscow to try and exert pressure on them. as we have been hearing russian troops are now

inside ukraine's second largest city of kharkiv. sitting so close to the border with russia it was always likely to be one of the first major cities to be injeopardy. having a look at the wider picture of the fighting in ukraine this is how it looks on day four after the russian invasion. these areas on the map are parts of ukraine that the russians now occupy. you can see how the advances have come from the south from crimea and the east and from belarus. i'mjoined now from crimea and the east and from belarus. i'm joined now by someone who has escaped from kharkiv, dennis, from the ukrainian youth delegate to the un, who is now despised within ukraine. they keep joining us. tell us what has happened to you in the last few hours and days.— hours and days. thank you for invitin: hours and days. thank you for inviting me- — hours and days. thank you for inviting me. i— hours and days. thank you for inviting me. ijust _ hours and days. thank you for inviting me. ijust left - hours and days. thank you for inviting me. ijust left kharkiv| inviting me. ijust left kharkiv yesterday and jumped on the last evacuation train from kharkiv and i am staying just near the oil station which was bombed out by russians

yesterday, but i am staying safe and working constantly because we need everyone to fight on this war, digital warriors, everyone to fight on this war, digitalwarriors, europeans everyone to fight on this war, digital warriors, europeans to come to our country to help. in terms of getting out of kharkiv how did you manage to leave and how difficult was italy, have written for you as you are there? i difficult was italy, have written for you as you are there? i wasn't really frightened. _ for you as you are there? i wasn't really frightened. i _ for you as you are there? i wasn't really frightened. i was _ for you as you are there? i wasn't| really frightened. i was frightened just in the first hours of invasion, i have said they need to act so there were lots of people and we told everyone that there is a train the next day that we can go and it was free to use, if you just come to it. we went to kyiv, i slept one night under severe bombarding, so it is hard but we are really resistant and we are protecting the whole western civilisation from russia. in western civilisation from russia. in terms of what you are now focused on doing, are you preferring to fight

yourself? i doing, are you preferring to fight ourself? . , ., ., ~' doing, are you preferring to fight ourself? . , ., ., ,, ., yourself? i am trying to work out in the differ mattek _ yourself? i am trying to work out in the differ mattek and _ yourself? i am trying to work out in the differ mattek and digital- yourself? i am trying to work out in the differ mattek and digital front. | the differ mattek and digital front. we are gathering everyone from your. these are thousands of people to send help you to ukraine to join us to attack russian websites, to demand sanctions from governments in europe and also we are now working in a massive campaign because the ukraine —— ukraine needs to be provided with the fast track to the european union with this work, we are working 20 47 with the government with a community, with everyone, every forces needed, every small action is a big step towards our common win.— small action is a big step towards our common win. when you say you need digital — our common win. when you say you need digital warriors _ our common win. when you say you need digital warriors and _ our common win. when you say you need digital warriors and you - our common win. when you say you need digital warriors and you want l need digital warriors and you want people to come in to help you, just give me a sense of what exactly you're doing and what you need? it you're doing and what you need? it is what we need that you can't reallyjoin us to attack russian websites so they don't get the right information, lies from the government, we also need you to send

money to our army. you can also help by banning every russian channel on youtube, facebook, you should ban bloggers, which are tellingly words of kremlin because there is not even one word of truth in what are saying. in one word of truth in what are sa inc. . one word of truth in what are sa inc. , ., , ., one word of truth in what are sa inc. ,., ., one word of truth in what are sa in. ., , saying. in terms of your own safety and our saying. in terms of your own safety and your own _ saying. in terms of your own safety and your own family _ saying. in terms of your own safety and your own family mums - saying. in terms of your own safety and your own family mums safety | and your own family mums safety while you raise this battle, you say you're not frightened but there must be a great deal of fear in the background. be a great deal of fear in the background-— be a great deal of fear in the back round. , . , background. yes. there are different emotions at — background. yes. there are different emotions at work. _ background. yes. there are different emotions at work. one _ background. yes. there are different emotions at work. one time - background. yes. there are different emotions at work. one time you - background. yes. there are differentl emotions at work. one time you think you are afraid for your family, fortunately my is staying safe my girlfriend is staying in kharkiv, in 48 hours in the shelter because it is they are still looking for russian in the city. founded safe

place not suffer from this oil facility, it is still safe here. fortunately there is not a lot of oil left, so there is no safe place in ukraine, but the main important thing, we are resistant and protecting. in thing, we are resistant and protecting-— thing, we are resistant and protecting. thing, we are resistant and rotectinu. , ., ., i. thing, we are resistant and rotectinu. , ., ., . protecting. in terms of how you have all been trained _ protecting. in terms of how you have all been trained and _ protecting. in terms of how you have all been trained and prepared - protecting. in terms of how you have all been trained and prepared for- all been trained and prepared for this, has that been, it was never going to be enough, but we are very, it is astonishing to see ordinary civilians rise up like this in resistance, military resistance, it is beyond something most of us can understand. is beyond something most of us can understand-— understand. everybody is 'ust learnina understand. everybody is 'ust learning on i understand. everybody is 'ust learning on the i understand. everybody is 'ust learning on the way. i understand. everybody is 'ust learning on the way. it is h understand. everybody is just| learning on the way. it is hard understand. everybody is just i learning on the way. it is hard to say, we weren't prepared for this. the word is here for eight years. many ukrainians, they were, we were

fighting this warfor many ukrainians, they were, we were fighting this war for eight years already. the full—scale war started four days ago but ukrainians, they are prepared for everything. millions of people are now working on our territorial defence who were gathering equipment. this is really important. pleasejoin us. you can send us the equipment, send us the medicines. give your cars to ukraine so we can transport something. there are many fronts which you can fight with us, even you can come to ukraine andjoin our with us, even you can come to ukraine and join our territorial defence. presidents lenski hasjust announced this. == defence. presidents lenski has 'ust announced this.i announced this. -- president zelensky- — announced this. -- president zelensky- it _ announced this. -- president zelensky. it is _ announced this. -- president zelensky. it is an _ announced this. -- president i zelensky. it is an extraordinary plea to here. there is a risk in that as well, isn't there, for anyone who wants to go into ukraine but also this becoming incredibly complex and perhaps leaving more

people open to being victims of this violent complex assault. molar people open to being victims of this violent complex assault.— violent complex assault. now the whole of europe _ violent complex assault. now the whole of europe is _ violent complex assault. now the whole of europe is at _ violent complex assault. now the whole of europe is at risk- violent complex assault. now the | whole of europe is at risk because of freedom stop russia here, unfortunately it can be the next countries to come in the coming weeks, we don't know this, we don't know what planners, but we need to stop them now in ukraine. irate stop them now in ukraine. we understand — stop them now in ukraine. we understand that the message and that plea of course. thank you very much indeed. i am joined plea of course. thank you very much indeed. iamjoined now plea of course. thank you very much indeed. i am joined now by the ceo of the refugee council. thank you forjoining us today. what are you seeing and hearing in terms of the numbers of internally displaced people within the country at moment? we understand as was reported earlier, tens of thousands heading to the border with poland but we are looking at the situation where

hundreds of thousands of people are on the move, desperate women and children who need to get out of ukraine and want to desperately get to safety in neighbouring countries. when they get there the reality of refugee crises like this is the vast majority of people want to stay in neighbouring countries because they want to get back to their homes as soon as possible but there will be some who want to get to safety in europe and so the uk because they will have a connection to the uk, might have relatives or family or friends in the uk and it is imperative the government brings forward a mechanism to enable them to do that. there are two things i could do very quickly. they could firstly change immigration rules so that any ukrainian who is in the uk at the moment has written to be in the uk could bring theirfamily members over and that could be done at the stroke of a pen, but secondly and critically they need to create something called humanitarian visas which would allow any ukrainian who

wants to come to the uk on the grounds of humanitarian need, which is a result of the current crisis, they are able to do so. it is critical the government moves to announce that and doesn't delay. what do you think of the government's the response so far? we have david lammy of the labour party, the opposition party year, saying their position at the moment is an immoral one. i saying their position at the moment is an immoral one.— is an immoral one. i think it is difficult for _ is an immoral one. i think it is difficult for the _ is an immoral one. i think it is difficult for the government i is an immoral one. i think it is difficult for the government if| is an immoral one. i think it is. difficult for the government if it is saying if it wants to provide a welcome to ukrainians, if it wants to show we are a nation that stands together with ukrainians and we want together with ukrainians and we want to honour our proud tradition of welcoming refugees, which stretches back over generations, then if it is going to delay and prevaricate and not announce something, it does suggest that the government is not making a commitment and can be

accused of acting in a way that is immoral. it is imperative that we act and we quickly act and we do something in the same way we did for afghans. rememberjust back in the summer last year, operation warm welcome for afghans it was announced. we need an equivalent for ukrainians and it is imperative we gave the roots of safety to ukrainians who want to come to the uk. iii ukrainians who want to come to the uk. , ., , , ., , uk. if people understand the desire of everyone — uk. if people understand the desire of everyone watching _ uk. if people understand the desire of everyone watching to _ uk. if people understand the desire of everyone watching to help - uk. if people understand the desire of everyone watching to help those | of everyone watching to help those who are vulnerable, some people might then worry that if you just open the borders completely, and if this conflict goes on for some time, could you get very big numbers of people coming, wanting to come to the uk at some point and therefore is the government not right to actuallyjust be a bit careful about how they manage this crisis? ilike how they manage this crisis? like with any crisis, _ how they manage this crisis? l age: with any crisis, and looking how they manage this crisis? l ate: with any crisis, and looking back to the balkans crisis a generation ago,

we played our part alongside our european nations and it is about the same today, it is about us taking ourfair share, same today, it is about us taking ourfairshare, it is same today, it is about us taking ourfair share, it is about responsibility sharing, which means that the uk takes the lead with western nations and steps up and says, this is what we must do and you must do it together with us. it is notjust about you must do it together with us. it is not just about the you must do it together with us. it is notjust about the uk taking every ukrainian who wants to get to safety in western european nations or other west appearing —— western european nations. it is about the uk offering a safe route and getting around the table with other european and western nations so that they do the same. we can take the lead in doing that in a way we have done in calling for sanctions and we can ensure that european nations step up, as well, and i have no doubt they would in the same way that they did a generation ago during the crisis in the balkans. taste did a generation ago during the crisis in the balkans.— did a generation ago during the crisis in the balkans. we are seeing ictures of crisis in the balkans. we are seeing pictures of the _ crisis in the balkans. we are seeing pictures of the polish _

crisis in the balkans. we are seeing pictures of the polish ukraine - pictures of the polish ukraine border, with people in cars and some walking along the road. we are going to beef up there thank you very much, enver solomon from the refugee council. we can speak to damian mcguinness in berlin. we have seen this incredibly big change, this speech from a lot of shots today, announcing a number of policy changes —— olaf schultz. this announcing a number of policy changes -- olaf schultz. this is bein: changes -- olaf schultz. this is being seen _ changes -- olaf schultz. this is being seen as _ changes -- olaf schultz. this is being seen as an _ changes -- olaf schultz. this is being seen as an historic - changes -- olaf schultz. this is| being seen as an historic speech because not only have we seen a shift over the past 24 hours in germany agreeing to provide arms to ukraine and also to agree to some sort of restrictions on swift banking payments, pressure's access to the system, now in this speech the chancellor got very concrete about the money needed to do that.

he pledged that generally would this year, 2022, —— up germany it would allocate an additional 100 billion euros to the military. this is a controversial thing, traditionally, to do in germany. any military spending is seen as something which is difficult here, it is not a popular measure generally with voters but what we are seeing right now in germany, and this has happened, over the past two days, we have seen a complete shift in thinking on what germany need to do. in this speech, which was pretty emotionalfor his in this speech, which was pretty emotional for his standards, and was very decisive, he said that this is not only about ukraine's security and freedom but also about europe's security and freedom and he pledged not only to drastically increase military spending by the stroke of a pen. he is also going to pledge to reach that 2% of gdp spending nato

has called for four years which germany has notjust to has called for four years which germany has not just to for various reasons and has been reluctant to pledge to members of this government have until this week still really said, well, the 2% is a bit arbitrary, we don't think it is correct. we can do other things, humanitarian support. that has all been thrown out of the window. chancellor scholz said he has a strong government support and has the support from the main opposition, conservative cdu party, that he will not only reach that 2% target but those military spending targets he will ensure iron in the german constitution. those is a strong, decisive word that enshrined in the constitution. it looks like he has support from parliament, during the debate there were a couple of standing ovations. one was for the ukrainian ambassador to berlin was sitting the parliament, former german president gave him a hug at the beginning of the session.

there was also a standing ovation, the minutes of applause when chancellor scholz praised mission protesters who had gone to the streets to protest against this war in support of peace, saying they were incredibly brave. the whole parliament stood up again for a couple of minutes and applauded. it was a very moving standing ovation and this was a sign of decisiveness and this was a sign of decisiveness and unity from most people in that parliament. the afd party, the far—right party, did not agree with many of those things but they are politically not very influential at the moment. they are at one extreme of parliament, they will not support many of these measures but their votes will not swing anything and there were some members of the radical left party who will probably do object to some of these spending measures and traditionally not favour such a big increase of power. the overall consensus in the

parliament, and polls in the general population, is that decisive and military action, as well, to help ukraine is what germany is now going to do. . .. ukraine is what germany is now going to do. . ,, ,:, ukraine is what germany is now going to do. :, ~' , ukraine is what germany is now going todo. . , : to do. thank you very much indeed for that. damian _ to do. thank you very much indeed for that. damian mcguinness - to do. thank you very much indeed for that. damian mcguinness in i for that. damian mcguinness in berlin. germany, one of many european countries, italy, iceland, many countries now saying they are closing their airspace to russian flights. many of those moves coming in very quickly indeed in the next few hours. let's return now to the subject of refugees and how much help people will need in the coming hours and days. live now to brussels — harlem desir is senior vice president for the international rescue committee in europe. how concerned how concerned are how concerned are you about the numbers of people needing help both within ukraine, who are displaced, and also those leaving the country?

the unhcr says there are more than 370,000 people who have left their home and there is an escalation, we are seeing more and more people trying to move to the west of ukraine and moldova and we fear it could soon become more than1 million. berlin has said they were ready to welcome refugees but probably they will not be ready to receive more. there is many agency here, we are in front of a huge humanitarian catastrophe. i very much support the call of the un secretary—general for a ceasefire. there must be full respect of civilian and humanitarian law. but also european countries must be ready to support those neighbouring

countries who are already welcoming a lot of refugees and we are working with organisations in poland and in contact with those in ukraine to bring support to the refugees. other european member states and all the other european democracies must be ready to welcome these refugees, to give them, as human rights, to provide all the necessary life—saving support for these families. life-saving support for these families. : , :, life-saving support for these families. : :, , families. are you looking at setting u . families. are you looking at setting u- refu~ee families. are you looking at setting on refugee camps _ families. are you looking at setting up refugee camps along _ families. are you looking at setting up refugee camps along the - families. are you looking at setting | up refugee camps along the border? so far poland has established reception centres but this means train stations, places to give a roof, but we already see in romania and moldova. there is a need to build, so we will get help for this but you know refugees will very soon need much more thanjust but you know refugees will very soon need much more than just a but you know refugees will very soon need much more thanjust a roof, they need access to food, health support. there are children who will

need access to education. i think it is really a time where europe must scale up its preparedness for this humanitarian situation and there is a test of unity you have been speaking about in the last hours and days, there is a test of solidarity of the europeans. these people have been attacked because they choose liberty, freedom, because they choose democracy, because they want to be closer to the west and democracies, it is our duty now to be prepared to help them, to support them and to grant them the resilience protections they deserve. we are seeing a report that the hungarian foreign minister has said 66,000 people have fled to hungary from ukraine in the last few days, he says we are seeing one of the biggest humanitarian atrophy is that we have experience, the work must

end and they want to see russia and ukraine sit down for talks as soon as possible. that is from reuters, i cannot independently verify it. are you concerned that even if people are able to get immediate short—term temporary help, either with friends or family temporary help, either with friends orfamily in neighbouring countries to ukraine or in camps, that longer term, if the numbers fleeing ukraine go into the millions, that is going to need contributions from everyone, all european countries, including countries like the uk.— all european countries, including countries like the uk. yes, i agree, i full countries like the uk. yes, i agree, l fully agree- _ countries like the uk. yes, i agree, l fully agree- l _ countries like the uk. yes, i agree, i fully agree. i have _ countries like the uk. yes, i agree, i fully agree. i have seen _ countries like the uk. yes, i agree, i fully agree. i have seen that - i fully agree. i have seen that already several countries, germany, ireland, portugal, have said they are ready to welcome refugees but it is very important that the uk does so, that france does so. poland, romania, moldova will not be able to face this situation. it is clear there is the immediate need to protect the people, to ensure that

we are still in the winter, in the eastern part of the continent, they have roofs, the necessary support for the next days. but we must be ready to welcome them unfortunately for a long time, so it means they must have legal safety, which means a real legal situation, and that all european democracies must play their part in this solidarity to welcome ukrainian people. taste part in this solidarity to welcome ukrainian people.— part in this solidarity to welcome ukrainian people. we have already seen a political _ ukrainian people. we have already seen a political argument - ukrainian people. we have already seen a political argument in - ukrainian people. we have already seen a political argument in the i ukrainian people. we have already| seen a political argument in the uk about what kind of visas, what kind of basis for accepting, welcoming ukrainians should be allowed between the government and the opposition labour party here. what is your view of whether the british government is doing enough and is being open enough? i doing enough and is being open enou~h? :, ::, doing enough and is being open enou~h? :, :. :, :, enough? i would recall that all euroean enough? i would recall that all european democracies - enough? i would recall that all. european democracies including enough? i would recall that all- european democracies including the uk and the eu member states are

committed to the geneva convention, detecting the refugees, people fleeing conflict, war is, and need international protection. so it is not about quota, about limitation in numbers, and the legal statutes ask to ensure that the people are allowed to stay in our countries, that they will be welcome in our countries, they will have access to all the needed services. the basic social services, the right to work, the right to stay, to have children going to school. because this could be a long situation, we know it, a painful and long situation. these people really deserve our full protection and i very much hope that we will not see the kind of problems that we have been facing for all the refugees of war coming in the past months or years. here it is very clear again that these people are under attack because they have chosen democracy, they have chosen the european values. it is really

our duty to do what is necessary in all european countries to welcome them. . , , :, them. ok, harlem desir from the international _ them. ok, harlem desir from the international rescue _ them. ok, harlem desir from the international rescue committee, l international rescue committee, thank you very much joining us international rescue committee, thank you very muchjoining us in brussels. thank you very much 'oining us in brussels. . .. thank you very much 'oining us in brussels. :, ,, , :, the importance of a particular small town in the south, which has been shown specific because that is where the canal that used to supply water to crimea comes to all major river. russians already took it and they are stealing water. so they come not just to make a point, they are doing some economic damage and providing something they needed. two major cities are symbolic for them to take over kyiv as a capital, the capital of all people of slavic descent,

where they stole even the name from us. now they came again. in where they stole even the name from us. now they came again.— us. now they came again. in terms of casualties. — us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what _ us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what are _ us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what are the _ us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what are the numbers i us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what are the numbers you have got of civilians and military on both sides? i have got of civilians and military on both sides?— on both sides? i 'ust read the numbers h on both sides? i 'ust read the numbers from i on both sides? ijust read the numbers from the _ on both sides? ijust read the numbers from the ministry, . on both sides? ijust read the i numbers from the ministry, the casualties in hundreds, we have thousands of people wounded. we know we are trying not to disclose losses on the military side for obvious reasons but we know we inflicted at least 3000 people dead on the russian side. wounded, taken. we are trying to establish not the hotline for russians going to find their loved ones, those who fight in ukraine. it is life or death so they might reach out to them. we are doing all of this, as well. i doing all of this, as well. i understand you don't want to give away your own military casualties but can you give us any sense of the losses? :,, , , :, :, :, , losses? the losses are enormous because of— losses? the losses are enormous because of the — losses? the losses are enormous

because of the rockets _ losses? the losses are enormous because of the rockets being i losses? the losses are enormous| because of the rockets being used and the shelling from the black sea. the missiles in residential houses. you can imagine how the military installations are suffering. that was the first wave, to hit the military installations, waters, ammunition, so the loss of those people are great but we have enough people are great but we have enough people to survive, we are a big nation and everyone in ukraine, a noble effort. it nation and everyone in ukraine, a noble effort-— noble effort. it is understandable that ou noble effort. it is understandable that you are _ noble effort. it is understandable that you are not _ noble effort. it is understandable that you are not allowing - noble effort. it is understandable that you are not allowing men i noble effort. it is understandable that you are not allowing men to| that you are not allowing men to leave the country it is also distressing to witness that because if a man does not want to fight and feels he wants to leave with his wife, children, mother, sisters, should he not be able to leave if he wants to? taste should he not be able to leave if he wants to? ~ . should he not be able to leave if he wants to? t . :, ,, wants to? we are taking case-by-case, - wants to? we are taking case-by-case, we - wants to? we are taking i case-by-case, we understand case—by—case, we understand sometimes this man is needed to support the family. we also to create the possibility for the families to be safe at least a couple of days. their neighbouring nations are coming to help. the

small nations, they need support from nations to be able to open up a putt at the same time it is a critical time. putt at the same time it is a criticaltime. nobody putt at the same time it is a critical time. nobody wanted to fight. not even those soldiers wanted to fight but we are fighting and we have to find the resources for this. . . ,:, . and we have to find the resources for this. ., , , . ,, for this. has said it is breaking with its post-war _ for this. has said it is breaking with its post-war policy - for this. has said it is breaking with its post-war policy and i for this. has said it is breaking i with its post-war policy and going with its post—war policy and going to supply military help. it with its post-war policy and going to supply military help.— to supply military help. it will be too late. to supply military help. it will be too late- we _ to supply military help. it will be too late. we ask— to supply military help. it will be too late. we ask them _ to supply military help. it will be too late. we ask them so - to supply military help. it will be too late. we ask them so many. to supply military help. it will be i too late. we ask them so many times, for so many years. they were not just not providing, they were blocking support from other nato nations, using their right of veto on nato decisions. they came to change their mind but a bit too late to. a' :, :, change their mind but a bit too late to. ,, . :, :, :, :, to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking — to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking to _ to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking to me _ to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking to me in _ to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking to me in the _ to. the ukrainian ambassador to the uk speaking to me in the last - to. the ukrainian ambassador to the j uk speaking to me in the last couple of hours. lam iamjoined by

i am joined by rick demont. we are seeing big political shifts, notably today, —— ruth demand. spending on military funding. we are seeing nato stronger than ever but we still see vladimir putin so far are looking very resolved to go ahead with this. is that what you are seeing in terms of the signals coming out of moscow at the moment? it is of the signals coming out of moscow at the moment?— at the moment? it is hard to make sense of what _ at the moment? it is hard to make sense of what is _ at the moment? it is hard to make sense of what is coming _ at the moment? it is hard to make sense of what is coming out i at the moment? it is hard to make sense of what is coming out of- sense of what is coming out of moscow at the moment. that has really been true for the last week, but i think to a significant degree it is hard to see a way out of this for the russian government at the moment. they fully committed themselves to war in ukraine and although they have suggested talks which for the moment don't seem to be going ahead, it is really hard to see putin backing down from this because it will be so damaging. but

there has to be a political way out of this potentially. that is what everyone will be hoping, and there has to be a way found for russia to come out of this politically. there is this offer of talks potentially in belarus or azerbaijan and turkey have also been mentioned. what are the countries that could broker some sort of deal if it comes to that at some point?— sort of deal if it comes to that at some oint? . , :, �* :, , some point? certainly not belarus, which has for _ some point? certainly not belarus, which has for a _ some point? certainly not belarus, which has for a long _ some point? certainly not belarus, which has for a long time _ some point? certainly not belarus, which has for a long time been i some point? certainly not belarus, which has for a long time been in l which has for a long time been in military union with russia and we are seeing reports today that belarus is sending troops to join the invasion of ukraine, so the idea that troops, that talks could be held there, is unimaginable. i do wonder if rush would be prepared to entertain the idea of talks in turkey, which is a nato member state. ultimately, as you say, there has to be a political resolution to this because i think it is fairly

clear, and to be honest, really before the start of the invasion, that a military resolution to this was not likely, given that the likely strength of ukrainian opposition to russian invasion. so at some point, both parties will have to come to the table, i think. there has been a lot of speculation, guesswork, analysis on what president putin's motivation might be. from everything he has said, what is your understanding of that? it is hard to tell. there are things he has said that i motivating him and those are firstly he claims, disgustingly, that ukraine needs to be de—notified, which is nonsense —— denazified. he claims genocide in ukraine which is also nonsense stop

what you claim before the start of the conflict was in effect that he needed to reset the strategic club in europe to 1997, to a world before the expansion of nato and to prevent ukraine from joining nato. if that is what is motivating this it is remarkably self—defeating because now we see the possibility of other states joining now we see the possibility of other statesjoining nato, perhaps nato looking stronger than ever. he has managed to do what no us president has succeeded, which is to get germany to commit 2% of its gdp to its defence spending. so there seems to be a failure to achieve his strategic goals. but why invading ukraine could have delivered any of those in the first place, or are widely thought they could come is a mystery, really. this invasion never made any sense at all, i think. there is no obvious triggerfor made any sense at all, i think. there is no obvious trigger for it, no rationale.—

no rationale. which countries are those which _ no rationale. which countries are those which have _ no rationale. which countries are those which have the _ no rationale. which countries are those which have the most i no rationale. which countries are i those which have the most leverage with putin now? we saw china and india abstaining on a security council vote. china and russia are notjust council vote. china and russia are not just automatic close allies council vote. china and russia are notjust automatic close allies on everything, when you look at policy around the globe, but is china going to bankroll any gaps in the economy that russia might damage, gets damaged from, as a result of sanctions? how crucial is china's support in this? i sanctions? how crucial is china's sopport in this?— support in this? i think china's su ort support in this? i think china's sopport is _ support in this? i think china's support is absolutely - support in this? i think china's support is absolutely crucial. support in this? i think china'sj support is absolutely crucial to russia and that has been increasingly true since 2014 when the first wave of sanctions hit after russia annexed crimea. one has to ask what china's motivations would be, what is in it for china? clearly there is a partnership there of a kind, pragmatic partnership. they have a strong relationship in some areas. but to fully attempt to

fill the gap left by western sanctions and western moves against russia, financial assets, that is a big commitment from china and one has to ask why they would want to do that perhaps. has to ask why they would want to do that perhaps-— that perhaps. thank you very much indeed, that perhaps. thank you very much indeed. joining _ that perhaps. thank you very much indeed, joining us _ that perhaps. thank you very much indeed, joining us from _ that perhaps. thank you very much| indeed, joining us from cambridge. one line that has been reported from germany which is making a big set of announcements on its action there, saying they will be offering free train rides to bring in ukrainian refugees from poland. we know they have taken action on nord stream, the gas supply and are announcing spending 2% of gdp and military spending, something they have not done, despite the pushing from the us for some time now. the russian owner of the english premier league side chelsea has handed over its stewardship of that club to trustees of its charitable foundation.

roman abramovich — who bought the club in 2003 — will relinquish day—to—day control but will retain ownership. tim allman reports. his billions transformed the fortunes of a football club, and helped to revolutionise an entire sport. under his ownership, chelsea has become one of the most successful teams in europe. but now roman abramovich seems to be taking a step back. in a statement on the club's website, he said... although he has given up stewardship, he still retains ownership. the bbc understands he is not calling in the £1.5 billion loan that he gave to the club.

that is around $2 billion. but this week, of all weeks, it's not a good look to have russian owners. it seems to be an attempt to distance the club from the awful situation, and what it may also do is protect the club from any sanctions imposed on russian—owned assets. roman abramovich likes to keep a low profile, and almost never gives interviews. he claims to be essentially non—political, but he is believed to be close to vladimir putin. as for the chelsea players, they have been preparing for the league cup final against liverpool. the future of the club just that little bit more uncertain. tim allman, bbc news. showing you the latest live pictures coming from kyiv now, where we have been hearing from our correspondence there that there has been some sounds of firing off to the distance. we are also hearing that it is reported ukrainian army has

retaken kharkiv, expelling russian troops from the second biggest city in ukraine. you watching bbc news, stay with us for continuing coverage. hello. a lot of sunshine on the way for the uk today, perhaps, if anything, the sunshine more widespread than yesterday. yesterday, we had a weather front draped across scotland and northern ireland. today, that front will still be close by, but this big area of high pressure sitting across the continent, well, if anything, it will tend to push back on it somewhat. so i think across eastern scotland, for example, and perhaps to the east of northern ireland, there will be more brightness around, particularly through the afternoon, and we'll see the cloud eventually, hopefully shifting offshore, allowing some brightness into the western isles for a time — wind is picking up. across the northwest of scotland, we could see gusts up to 40 miles per hour through the second half of the day. in terms of the temperatures, perhaps the shade down on yesterday

— highs of nine to 11, the odd spot could get up to 12 degrees. through the evening and overnight, however, we will see some thicker, more meaningful cloud approaching from the west as another area of low pressure starts to take influence on our weather. it will mean a milder night for the majority of the uk. just a chance, i think, of a few spots in easternmost england catching a frost as we look at the start of monday. generally, though, under the cloud, lows of five to eight and obviously under the cloud, a much greyer start to monday and much wetter start as well. and this front is going to be waving away as it comes in from the atlantic. what does that mean? well, itjust means it's not very easy to plot its progress with high confidence. it looks like wet weather, certainly for northern england, wales and the south—west of england through the daylight hours on monday. southern scotland catching some rain as well. northern scotland, northern ireland hopefully seeing something a little bit brighter, though the rain could bother the east of northern ireland through the day,

the wetter conditions at the moment, our forecast has them making their way through eastern england overnight into the small hours of tuesday, with the weather front then draping down towards the continent through the day on tuesday. but that position is subject to some question. if anything, it looks like there could be some heavier rain running in towards the south west of england, perhaps as far north as south wales and the south midlands later on in the day on tuesday. generally, as a rule of thumb for tuesday, the further north you are, the better your chances will be of being dry and bright. a more mixed story, though for wednesday and thursday generally more cloud for all parts of the uk and some outbreaks of rain at times too.

critical the government moves to announce that and doesn't delay. this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. russian infantry vehicles move into khaki with reports of heavy fighting in ukraine's second—largest city. russia stepped up an oil strike on oil terminaljust outside kyiv. firefighters searched the rubble for survivors after russian shelling in the east. president zelensky increases russia of deliberately targeting residential areas and rejects an offer of peace talks in belarus. translation: last rejects an offer of peace talks in belarus. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. _ belarus. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again _ belarus. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again the _ brutal in ukraine. again the shelling and bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure. i

areas and civilian infrastructure. i am lyse doucet in kyiv on day four of russian invasion authority site more than 200 have been killed and more than 200 have been killed and more than 200 have been killed and more than a thousand injured including children. eu states move towards a ban on all flights by russian aircraft over the blocks airspace. western allies agree more sanctions against moscow running russia banks from the financial systems network swift. i am kasia madera in medyka on the polish ukrainian border where thousands of people are still crossing the border to the safety of poland. hello and welcome to bbc news. the

russian assault on ukraine is continuing on several fronts on the fourth day of the invasion. every street fighting is under way in the second city of kharkiv in the north—east of the country. russian infantry vehicles have been seen driving through residential areas of the city. there are reports of ukrainian fighters firing rocket propelled grenades on street corners and russian troops on foot moving behind armoured vehicles. kharkiv mayor has said it ukraine is still in control of the city. residents have been told not to leave their shelters. today presidents lansky accused russian troops of deliberately bombarding civilian residential areas in what he called a brutal night of attacks. he said he is open to honest talks with moscow but ruled out negotiations being held in belarus saying the neighbouring country is being used to launch attacks. a large blast has been heard to the west of the

capital kyiv, an oil depot was also blown up close to the city last night. ukrainian media is reporting russian forces occupying the south of the country. the united nations refugee agency estimates 368,000 people have fled ukraine to escape the conflict. our correspondent angus crawford has all the latest. attacks continue across the country. attacks continue across the country. a mushroom cloud rises into the sky, an oil pipeline hit near kharkiv in the north—east. in the city itself signs of a fierce defence, but still the russian forces come. ukraine's president again addressed his people. translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. i

the shelling and bombing of residential areas and civilian infrastructure. and he rejected offers of peace talks in neighbouring belarus. a direct hit on an oil depot this time close to an airstrip south of kyiv with toxic smoke filling the air. people told to close their windows and stay indoors. a total cu rfew a total curfew in kyiv until at least monday with mayor and former heavyweight boxing champion vitali klitschko warning of russian infiltrators. the situation in the capital is complex and tense, he said. the enemy has not broken into the city but saboteurs are operating. people remained defiant. these women singing the national anthem as they packed supplies for

the front line. to the west, still trying to escape with long queues at border crossings are leaving the country and with chaos at train stations. tens of thousands arrived. queues stretching out into the darkness. we thought it was just informational war. i but we see what happened. we don't understand why putin does it. i we need help from world. we say, help, help, help, help us. we are here. we are alone here. russia has not achieved the quick victory it wanted and kyiv has not fallen. president putin paid tribute to his troops. translation:— president putin paid tribute to his troops. translation: you're always honourin: troops. translation: you're always honouring your— troops. translation: you're always honouring your military _ troops. translation: you're always honouring your military duty - troops. translation: you're always honouring your military duty to i honouring your military duty to protect the country and citizens to ensure the national interests of russia. and, in truth, on the southern

front, the russian forces have gained ground. with more troops and armour waiting in reserve. angus crawford, bbc news. let's go live to kyiv and our chief international correspondent lyse doucet. take us through how difficult was the night, how close are those of us on trips now to the capital? are those of us on trips now to the ca - ital? , , are those of us on trips now to the caital?, , .,, are those of us on trips now to the caital? , ,, capital? just as he was speaking we have been hearing _ capital? just as he was speaking we have been hearing explosions - capital? just as he was speaking we have been hearing explosions in - capital? just as he was speaking we | have been hearing explosions in the distance. hearing at regular intervals, explosions, the landing of russian missiles, but they are all on the edge of kyiv and they have been that way for a few days now. we get a sense of their moving closely but the centre of kyiv, you can see it as a bright sunny day now, but most residents of the city won't be seeing that sun. they are in the darkness at the start time underground. life is gone underground. life is gone underground here in the basements and bomb shelters and the metro which has now been shut, it is a

24—hour refuge. there was a curfew enforced as we have been reporting which will last until eight tomorrow morning. and of course with the possibility that it will be extended again. yes, we went into the shelter last night with the air raid sirens, warnings not to leave the shelter, warnings not to leave the shelter, warnings that it was going to be a different night, where the russian attacks would escalate, led by the broad light of day, it wasn't as intense as it had been expected and feared, but this is still a city which is under threat, with russian tanks and heavy weaponry and russian forces trying to inch ever closer. for those living through all of this, the terror must be cumulative, days and nights in the shelter, that fighting getting closer, the unknown. fighting getting closer, the unknown-—

fighting getting closer, the unknown. ., ., ., , ~ fighting getting closer, the unknown. ., ., ., , «a, unknown. you have to 'ust think of houses unknown. you have to 'ust think of huss emptying h unknown. you have to 'ust think of houses emptying and _ unknown. you have to just think of houses emptying and everyone - unknown. you have to just think of houses emptying and everyone in. unknown. you have to just think of. houses emptying and everyone in that houses emptying and everyone in that house going downstairs, and we have seenin house going downstairs, and we have seen in our basement there are dogs and cats. my colleague sarah raynsford had a rabbit in her basement. stories of hamsters also. elderly people, very young children. children were doing some results on the floor. how do you explain to little children that you can't go outside, you have to stay in this dark basement for 36 hours, and it is notjust what is happening to those who are downstairs, then underground, they are constantly on their phones if i have internet, checking to see how their families are, dummies have been divided, some men have sold their elderly relatives out or families out so they are worried as their city, town or village in ukraine save or did they cross the border, and you can hear another explosion, there is a

ripple of anxiety which has threaded through the society, but also a ripple of defiance, patriotically so. there have been these extraordinary videos coming from villages of entire villages, including the most elderly going onto the streets, taunting the russian tanks. there was even an image of a man standing in front of the russian tanks, the arriving procession, and miraculously he stopped it. there is a real sense that they know their country is under attack, their president day in, day out calls on them to defend their country. whether they are doing it with a gun, resolved, even in shelter say to me, i have to be happy, i can't be sad, i have to be hopeful because i am part of the resistance. it hopeful because i am part of the resistance-— hopeful because i am part of the resistance. , ., resistance. it is remarkable as you say because _ resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it _ resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it is _ resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it is not _ resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it is not the _ resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it is not the army, - resistance. it is remarkable as you say because it is not the army, we| say because it is not the army, we have seen those scenes were just ordinary people, but it is politicians, bank managers, shopkeepers picking up guns and saying they will use them when the

time comes. what are you actually hearing from the second city because exactly that street fighting is currently being reported. yes. exactly that street fighting is currently being reported. yes, and civilians are _ currently being reported. yes, and civilians are picking _ currently being reported. yes, and civilians are picking up _ currently being reported. yes, and civilians are picking up guns - currently being reported. yes, and civilians are picking up guns and i civilians are picking up guns and picking up their resolve but this is also a bloody 21st—century work. street fighting against russian forces, armoured vehicles in the streets, russian warplanes in the sky, really bloody clashes. this is army against army and that is also happening. it is also happening about 15 miles, 25 kilometres just north—west of where we are speaking where there is also russian warplanes in this guy, armoured vehicles industries, street fighting. it is a bloody war in the heart of europe and around that were is also an upsurge and a patriotic push back the enemy. what is also an upsurge and a patriotic push back the enemy.— push back the enemy. what are ukrainian officials _

push back the enemy. what are ukrainian officials saying - push back the enemy. what are ukrainian officials saying about| ukrainian officials saying about casualties numbers, civilian, military but what are they saying to you? we military but what are they saying to ou? ~ ., military but what are they saying to ou? . . ., ., , military but what are they saying to ou? . ., ., ., , ., you? we have heard in the last hour from the authorities _ you? we have heard in the last hour from the authorities here _ you? we have heard in the last hour from the authorities here that - you? we have heard in the last hour from the authorities here that more| from the authorities here that more than 200 civilians have been killed in the past four days of the invasion, 1100 injured including children. a child was killed when a hospital was shelled here in the capital kyiv. there was another incident of someone being killed where there was a street to street fighting. just underlining that president putin, russian officials have said they are only going to target military infrastructure, not target military infrastructure, not target civilians, that we had yesterday the images of a huge high tower block targeted, there was reports of the hospital being targeted. it is always the way in work. this expression, civilians caught up in the fighting. in some way civilians are targeted because when words are but on cities that is

where civilians live, it is a city not of targets but civilians and families in streets where people live and where the risk of dying once the missile start flying and the troops move in. has, once the missile start flying and the troops move in.— once the missile start flying and the troops move in. a final thought for now in terms _ the troops move in. a final thought for now in terms of— the troops move in. a final thought for now in terms of those _ the troops move in. a final thought for now in terms of those dogs - the troops move in. a final thought| for now in terms of those dogs with what moscow has been saying, in terms of president zelensky, along non—starter because it is in belarus but is any mileage in this area or is it a total distraction for moscow?— is it a total distraction for moscow? , , ., , , is it a total distraction for moscow? ,, . , , , moscow? the russians said they sent officials to belarus _ moscow? the russians said they sent officials to belarus to _ moscow? the russians said they sent officials to belarus to start _ officials to belarus to start working on these negotiations but it is a nonstarter to have it in belarus. i was in minsk in 2015. we followed the talks, went into the night with the german chancellor angela merkel, the french presidents francois hollande, it resulted in the 2015 minsk agreement which was never implemented and ukrainian official site to use their

expression, we had a gun to our head. russian faucet had annexed crimea, they were in the donbas, we had to accept that agreement. to go back to minsk now at a time when belarus is giving open passage to russian tanks and russian troops to invade ukraine, this morning president zelensky had one of his videos addressing the people of belarus saying the belarus, don't be russia. for belarus saying the belarus, don't be russia. ., ., ., ~' , ., , . russia. for now, thank you very much for the latest- — russia. for now, thank you very much for the latest. as _ russia. for now, thank you very much for the latest. as we _ russia. for now, thank you very much for the latest. as we were _ russia. for now, thank you very much for the latest. as we were talking - for the latest. as we were talking there, russian troops are now inside there, russian troops are now inside the country's second largest city kharkiv sitting so close to the border with russia it was a is likely to be one of the first major cities to be injeopardy. have a look at this wider picture on the map of where the fighting is in ukraine. as it looks on the fourth day after the russian invasion. the areas on the maps are part of the ukraine that the rushes now occupy

those areas in yellow and you can see how the advances have come from the south, from crimea and the east and the north from belarus, those offers of talks in that country. many of the hundreds of thousands of people who left their homes already in the east of the country have fled west to escape the violence towards neighbouring countries, including slovakia, hungary and poland, it has been reported 150,000 people have now crossed across the border. kasia madera is there for us now. those numbers are only accelerating, antiquity? we numbers are only accelerating, antiuui ? ~ ., numbers are only accelerating, antiuui ? . . ., numbers are only accelerating, antiquity?— numbers are only accelerating, antiuui 7~ . . ~ ., numbers are only accelerating, antiuui 7~ . ., ~ ., ., antiquity? we are at medyka, one of the busiest crossing _ antiquity? we are at medyka, one of the busiest crossing is _ antiquity? we are at medyka, one of the busiest crossing is here - antiquity? we are at medyka, one of the busiest crossing is here on - antiquity? we are at medyka, one of the busiest crossing is here on the l the busiest crossing is here on the polish ukrainian border, dozens of people coming across and this is their first port of call. this is what they see when they come into poland. they have spent hours trying to get here. there is a huge long queue of people trying to get on the crane inside and when they arrive

they are greeted with people who have been locally trying to help stop. let's talk to one family that have literary disgust over. this is a family, you have been travelling from lviv. marianna and gilbert joining us. let's start with you have come from. we joining us. let's start with you have come from.— joining us. let's start with you have come from. we started the 'ourne have come from. we started the journey outside _ have come from. we started the journey outside lviv, _ have come from. we started the journey outside lviv, a - have come from. we started the journey outside lviv, a city - have come from. we started the | journey outside lviv, a city close, one and _ journey outside lviv, a city close, one and a — journey outside lviv, a city close, one and a half hours from lviv. we first travelled from the city to lviv. got _ first travelled from the city to lviv, got to the station, a lot of people — lviv, got to the station, a lot of people were also trying to get there — people were also trying to get there. we spent a lot of hours in there. we spent a lot of hours in the traffic— there. we spent a lot of hours in the traffic so we had to get down, io the traffic so we had to get down, go to— the traffic so we had to get down, go to the — the traffic so we had to get down, go to the train station, ask for the tickets_ go to the train station, ask for the tickets but— go to the train station, ask for the tickets but they said there are not tickets _ tickets but they said there are not tickets available until next month. i can't _ tickets available until next month. i can't leave my family here. we are

told there _ i can't leave my family here. we are told there is— i can't leave my family here. we are told there is a free train going from — told there is a free train going from lviv_ told there is a free train going from lviv to poland but there are a lot of— from lviv to poland but there are a lot of people. we have to wait and when _ lot of people. we have to wait and when the — lot of people. we have to wait and when the train came it was difficult to get— when the train came it was difficult to get on— when the train came it was difficult to get on the train, especially trying — to get on the train, especially trying to— to get on the train, especially trying to pull kids until that but they're — trying to pull kids until that but they're only accepting ukrainians and ukrainians with kids, then ukrainians below 18, but it was hectic — ukrainians below 18, but it was hectic. the sound of the siren. everybody _ hectic. the sound of the siren. everybody was pushing, are they trying _ everybody was pushing, are they trying to— everybody was pushing, are they trying to run to bomb shelter? as a family— trying to run to bomb shelter? as a family man — trying to run to bomb shelter? as a family man i — trying to run to bomb shelter? as a family man i had to put them to the bomb— family man i had to put them to the bomb shelter first to say goodbye to my kids _ bomb shelter first to say goodbye to my kids then allowing people to move _ my kids then allowing people to move i— had to take us out of that environment. luckily we left. bike limiters _ environment. luckily we left. bike limiters away from the border. ——

five commenters. i went with my friend _ five commenters. i went with my friend in— five commenters. i went with my friend in his _ five commenters. i went with my friend in his car. still in the traffic— friend in his car. still in the traffic far— friend in his car. still in the traffic far away. we attract dish tract _ traffic far away. we attract dish tract for— we got to a village where they were able to— we got to a village where they were able to give us somewhere to stay at about _ able to give us somewhere to stay at about it _ able to give us somewhere to stay at about it in _ able to give us somewhere to stay at about 11 in the night because it was cold _ about 11 in the night because it was cold my— about 11 in the night because it was cold. my kids were crying and it was really _ cold. my kids were crying and it was really difficult.— cold. my kids were crying and it was really difficult._ all - really difficult. marianna, all the families, _

really difficult. marianna, all the families, grandmother, - really difficult. marianna, all- the families, grandmother, mother, father, _ the families, grandmother, mother, father, in—laws, brother, even the elder— father, in—laws, brother, even the elder brother, there is no way to -et elder brother, there is no way to get out — elder brother, there is no way to get out. other family lenders live close _ get out. other family lenders live close to _ get out. other family lenders live close to lviv. other family members live close _ close to lviv. other family members live close to — close to lviv. other family members live close to the city. my parents were _ live close to the city. my parents were already crying and calling from nigeria _ were already crying and calling from nigeria. my uncles know that. you have managed _ nigeria. my uncles know that. um. have managed to get out and you are together. it is a difficultjourney but you are together. thank you for speaking to us and wish you the best on your next leg of yourjourney. this is the next part. thank you. these are stories where hearing time and time again of people, the long distances i have been travelling to get to the border. then the hours and hours of waiting at the border. they finally make it here. lots of

unity groups and individuals offering transportation and hot food and ranks. but like we were hearing from this family, this isjust and ranks. but like we were hearing from this family, this is just the beginning of the next stage of a journey and ultimately what happens next, went to the go back? we simply don't know given the fluidity and the fast changing situation just across the border from the fast changing situation just across the borderfrom here in ukraine. across the border from here in ukraine. ., ~ across the border from here in ukraine. . ,, , ., across the border from here in ukraine. . ,, i. , ukraine. thank you. right across euro hean ukraine. thank you. right across european capitals _ ukraine. thank you. right across european capitals already - ukraine. thank you. right across european capitals already todayl ukraine. thank you. right across l european capitals already today we have seen more political reaction force resort in berlin little earlier. let's turn to uk politics and liz truss says that repeated may be prepared to use the most unsavoury means to secure victory in ukraine for subsea said she would support anyone in britain who chose to go and fight alongside ukraine so subdued responding to an appeal from president zelensky for international help on the ground.— help on the ground. resident zelensky has _ help on the ground. resident zelensky has asked _ help on the ground. resident zelensky has asked for - help on the ground. resident| zelensky has asked for people help on the ground. resident - zelensky has asked for people from abroad to join

zelensky has asked for people from abroad tojoin an zelensky has asked for people from abroad to join an international force. would you support that? i do su- hort force. would you support that? i do support that- _ force. would you support that? i do support that. of course it is something that people can make their own decisions about. they are fighting — own decisions about. they are fighting. the people of ukraine are fighting _ fighting. the people of ukraine are fighting for freedom and democracy notjust— fighting for freedom and democracy notjust for ukraine fighting for freedom and democracy not just for ukraine but for the whole — not just for ukraine but for the whole of— not just for ukraine but for the whole of europe because that is what president _ whole of europe because that is what president putin is challenging. absolutely, if people want to support — absolutely, if people want to support that struggle i would support— support that struggle i would support them in doing that. so you su- hort support them in doing that. so you support britain. — support them in doing that. so you support britain, people _ support them in doing that. so you support britain, people from - support them in doing that. so you | support britain, people from britain going over to ukraine to help in the fight? going over to ukraine to help in the fieht? ~ , y going over to ukraine to help in the fieht? ~ , . , . fight? absolutely if that is what the want fight? absolutely if that is what they want to — fight? absolutely if that is what they want to do. _ fight? absolutely if that is what they want to do. liz _ fight? absolutely if that is what they want to do. liz truss - fight? absolutely if that is what they want to do. liz truss also l fight? absolutely if that is what . they want to do. liz truss also said britain was — they want to do. liz truss also said britain was urgently _ they want to do. liz truss also said britain was urgently looking - they want to do. liz truss also said britain was urgently looking at - they want to do. liz truss also said | britain was urgently looking at what more it can do to enable refugees from the fighting in ukraine to come to britain. the uk covenant has faced intense criticism over its failure so far to relax the visa requirements for ukrainian nationals. david lammy is the labour foreign affairs spokesperson. iotufe foreign affairs spokesperson. we have to have a generous scheme that

is equivalent — have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to — have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to the _ have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to the scheme - have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to the scheme that - have to have a generous scheme that is equivalent to the scheme that we i is equivalent to the scheme that we offered _ is equivalent to the scheme that we offered peopie _ is equivalent to the scheme that we offered people after— is equivalent to the scheme that we offered people after the _ is equivalent to the scheme that we offered people after the balkans . offered people after the balkans crisis. _ offered people after the balkans crisis. our— offered people after the balkans crisis, our country— offered people after the balkans crisis, our country has _ offered people after the balkans crisis, our country has a - offered people after the balkans. crisis, our country has a generous history~ _ crisis, our country has a generous history~ look— crisis, our country has a generous history. look at— crisis, our country has a generous history. look at those _ crisis, our country has a generous history. look at those who - crisis, our country has a generous history. look at those who were l history. look at those who were playing — history. look at those who were playing eddie _ the ugandan asians. those who are fieeing _ the ugandan asians. those who are fieeing cyprus, _ the ugandan asians. those who are fleeing cyprus, the _ the ugandan asians. those who are fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese - the ugandan asians. those who are i fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people _ fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people. instead _ fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people. instead we _ fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people. instead we have _ fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people. instead we have a _ fleeing cyprus, the vietnamese boat people. instead we have a scheme l people. instead we have a scheme where _ people. instead we have a scheme where we — people. instead we have a scheme where we are _ people. instead we have a scheme where we are asking _ people. instead we have a scheme where we are asking people - people. instead we have a scheme where we are asking people to - people. instead we have a scheme i where we are asking people tojump through— where we are asking people tojump through hoops. _ where we are asking people tojump through hoops, there _ where we are asking people tojump through hoops, there is— where we are asking people tojumpl through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape _ through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape. why— through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape. why would _ through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape. why would we _ through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape. why would we ask- through hoops, there is bureaucracy, red tape. why would we ask people i red tape. why would we ask people what their— red tape. why would we ask people what their salary— red tape. why would we ask people what their salary levels _ red tape. why would we ask people what their salary levels are - red tape. why would we ask people what their salary levels are when i what their salary levels are when you are _ what their salary levels are when you are fieeing _ what their salary levels are when you are fleeing war? _ what their salary levels are when you are fleeing war? that - what their salary levels are when you are fleeing war? that is - you are fleeing war? that is inrnrorat _ i'm joined now by rory stewart — former british secretary of state for international development. i will come to those points in a moment but a wider question first because president zelensky was saying today that russia is intensifying its bombing, evil being aimed at every aspect of ukrainian society, do you fear that russian action will only escalate from here? yes, ifear it action will only escalate from here? yes, i fear it will. action will only escalate from here? yes, ifear it will. president action will only escalate from here? yes, i fear it will. president putin has been posting for years, as has

his generals that they have had a new form of very light worker. which they call hybrid worker and it was going to involve using cyber attacks and special forces. what is found in ukraine is that he is being drawn into a much more conventional heavy conflict which very sadly will involve horrifying casualties. white involve horrifying casualties. white in terms of the action we have seen so far from the west,— in terms of the action we have seen so far from the west, germany making the historic decision _ so far from the west, germany making the historic decision about _ so far from the west, germany making the historic decision about sending - the historic decision about sending weaponry to a foreign country, that move also on swift. is it shaping up to actually maximise it or do what a sexy happening? hat to actually maximise it or do what a sexy happening?— to actually maximise it or do what a sexy happening? not quite but so far it has been impressive _ sexy happening? not quite but so far it has been impressive and _ sexy happening? not quite but so far it has been impressive and it - sexy happening? not quite but so far it has been impressive and it will - it has been impressive and it will be much more than president putin expected. he imagines the economic interests of europe and to be honest europe's pretty which reaction to his invasion of crimea in 2014 would mean that he could get away with much more and he is getting away from instead we find the us and uk and eu taking very strong actions

but it is not enough yet. the one thing that will really change the russian that will really inflict serious damage on the recycling would beats actions on oil and and that would have an impact on europe and the global economy but we must do it. because the cost of that would be much lower than the cost of work. it would be much lower than the cost of work. , , , .. , work. it is interesting because we were tweeting _ work. it is interesting because we were tweeting about _ work. it is interesting because we were tweeting about executives i work. it is interesting because we - were tweeting about executives point earlier today, talking about it will become increasingly hard to sustain the unity and determination of the dark attic states begin to feel the impact of those sanctions was not that as exact what you have just been talking about. joe biden only a couple of days ago was saying actually there will be pain to the action that we take. do we need to be really upfront and open to our own people's in all of the western countries in terms of what it will actually cost to actually draw a line in the sand?— actually cost to actually draw a line in the sand? yes. we had to be u-front line in the sand? yes. we had to be upfront about _ line in the sand? yes. we had to be upfront about that. _ line in the sand? yes. we had to be upfront about that. a _ line in the sand? yes. we had to be upfront about that. a country - line in the sand? yes. we had to be upfront about that. a country like i upfront about that. a country like

italy hasn't yet come out of a recession. it was hoping to have uneconomic recovery. 47% of its gas has come from russia. germany it is over 40% dependent on russian gas. the impact on these countries will be extreme. it is not that they will be extreme. it is not that they will be able to heat homes, they will be able to require it elsewhere but it will more closely. is a german and italian can we suffer under the huge amount of impact on european and global economies, but the point is that what putin now is the beginning of something very dangerous was of this is a real war on european soil and serious economic sections the costs they will carry much less than the costs that will come from having to try to go to work. fin the costs that will come from having to try to go to work.— to try to go to work. on refugees or listenin: to try to go to work. on refugees or listening to — to try to go to work. on refugees or listening to those _ to try to go to work. on refugees or listening to those clips _ to try to go to work. on refugees or listening to those clips from - to try to go to work. on refugees or listening to those clips from liz - listening to those clips from liz truss and from david lammy, we saw what happened in afghanistan, is it vital that the promises we make now in terms of help, we actually see follow—through, it isn'tjust follow—through, it isn't just rhetoric? follow—through, it isn'tjust

rhetoric? we saw that tweet from a uk immigration minister talking about people from ukraine being able to apply for seasonal visas. what did you think when you saw and read that? j did you think when you saw and read that? “ did you think when you saw and read that? ~ , did you think when you saw and read that? 4' , ., , ., ~ that? i think it is heartbreaking but the truth _ that? i think it is heartbreaking but the truth of _ that? i think it is heartbreaking but the truth of the _ that? i think it is heartbreaking but the truth of the matter - that? i think it is heartbreaking but the truth of the matter is l that? i think it is heartbreaking i but the truth of the matter is the united kingdom is a long way behind countries like canada and sweden and now countries like germany and their response. britain keeps talking about these things, it offered to do about these things, it offered to do a lot for afghan refugees, it hasn't really pulled through. it scheme hasn't come into place and now we have this tragedy in ukraine. this is an opportunity for borisjohnson and priti patel to follow through on their rhetoric. they say they are open, they say they want to provide safe haven for people in dangerous lives, there are a lot of those people in ukraine and afghanistan and britain doesn't need to do it alone. they can form a coalition with other countries, the european union, canada, united states to share this burden but britain needs to step up. at the moment historically britain is taking far

fewer people proportionately than other leading democracies. dare fewer people proportionately than other leading democracies. are quick thou . ht on other leading democracies. are quick thought on what _ other leading democracies. are quick thought on what liz _ other leading democracies. are quick thought on what liz truss _ other leading democracies. are quick thought on what liz truss was - other leading democracies. are quick thought on what liz truss was saying | thought on what liz truss was saying regarding any britain is going to actuallyjoin the fight. is at the right direction? i actually join the fight. is at the right direction?— right direction? i think be very careful about _ right direction? i think be very careful about that. _ right direction? i think be very careful about that. any - right direction? i think be very careful about that. any one i right direction? i think be very careful about that. any one of| right direction? i think be very i careful about that. any one of us who have served or been in this type of worsens, you have to be very aware that this is horrifying. if we go in without adequate military training without being properly supported or field training without being properly supported orfield hospitals in place, there is a danger of atrocities, human rights issues. if people want to volunteer i would suggest they go and there is extremely important work supporting ngos but getting drawn into a fighting someone else's country i have read up on some very nasty pandora's box is on the housing that will run in many countries. you pandora's box is on the housing that will run in many countries.— will run in many countries. you take me to the obvious _ will run in many countries. you take me to the obvious area _ will run in many countries. you take me to the obvious area given - will run in many countries. you take me to the obvious area given how i will run in many countries. you take i me to the obvious area given how you have just described the fighting to the extraordinary bravery we have seen from ordinary ukrainians picking up guns, saying they are

going to resist, how difficult is that going to make it for the russian forces, or is it very quickly going to be overwhelmed despite all of that patriotism and bravery? it despite all of that patriotism and brave ? , . , . bravery? it will be a difficult fieht but bravery? it will be a difficult fight but russia _ bravery? it will be a difficult fight but russia has - bravery? it will be a difficult fight but russia has an - bravery? it will be a difficult - fight but russia has an enormous superiority. it spends an extraordinary amount on defence and more than we can even calculate, a lot of it spent in ways we can't even count, so it has an enormous military, well over 150,000 people on the borders, dwarfs the ukrainian army. in the conventional fights on the ground russia unfortunately has the ground russia unfortunately has the advantage but when it comes to urban fighting, resistance, the advantage but when it comes to urbanfighting, resistance, ordinary ukrainians fighting back i think russia will find themselves in a very difficult situation and it will be horrifying for both sides. this will be horrifying for ukrainians but russia will always take an

enormous number of cavities which is why we must put the pressure on president putin and the way to do thatis president putin and the way to do that is immediate sanctions on oil and gasping particularly led unfortunately from countries of germany and italy which are very dependent on russian oil and gasp at the it is interesting what you just said about russian soldiers because i haven't fronted me a quote from ukraine, the general talking about taking russian soldiers captive,. 919 euros he said they allowed them tickle their parents and they seem completed surprise. it you a sense of those people are currently doing the fighting on both sides. it paints quite a picture. ijust wanted to ask your final thought on president zelensky because we saw only yesterday when he was offered a way out by the americans he said i need ammunition not a ride. just in terms of leadership, your assessment of what we have seen in these last

extraordinary days.— extraordinary days. zelensky is extraordinary. _ extraordinary days. zelensky is extraordinary. he _ extraordinary days. zelensky is extraordinary. he has - extraordinary days. zelensky is extraordinary. he has given - extraordinary days. zelensky is| extraordinary. he has given one extraordinary days. zelensky is - extraordinary. he has given one of the most moving speeches given in the most moving speeches given in the last 70 years which everybody should watch. he has shown an extra ordinary mastery of social media so he has really one that medications battle against putin and he has shown immense intelligence and personal courage was appeasing sunni leaders of this is somebody who he has shown himself to be one of the most middle statesmen of the modern world. fetufe the most middle statesmen of the modern world.— the most middle statesmen of the modern world. we have to leave it there but thank _ modern world. we have to leave it there but thank you _ modern world. we have to leave it there but thank you so _ modern world. we have to leave it there but thank you so much - modern world. we have to leave it there but thank you so much for i modern world. we have to leave it i there but thank you so much for your time injoining us here on the news. let's get back to refugee crisis because hundreds of thousands of people have fled their homes to escape the violence. many of them heading to the various borders, ukraine, all of those neighbours now seeing thousands of other were. hungary one of those countries. next up hungary one of those countries. next up is there on the border for us. just give us a sense of the scene

where you are. this is the third day i have been here and there is definite increase in numbers at beregsurany, a marked increase in the infrastructure that is being set up to help people. where i am standing there are now red cross tents, tents set up by the maltese charity, hungarians, they are handing out food, soup, women are handing out food, soup, women are handing out nappies to women with small babies. if i turn the camera to help you see the scene here. looking there, people waiting at the roadside to give lifts to people trying to get to other parts of europe and tents inside which people can charge their phones for the first time. there are now mobile toilets here so big it numbers

crossing this border, large numbers on foot. one of the mysteries of the moment is they are only allowing the authorities one car across that border each hour. most of the people reaching where i am here are coming on foot. in reaching where i am here are coming on foot. , ., . ., , on foot. in terms of the various supplies. _ on foot. in terms of the various supplies. what _ on foot. in terms of the various supplies, what there _ on foot. in terms of the various supplies, what there is - on foot. in terms of the various supplies, what there is there i supplies, what there is there available to them, what i the aid agencies saying to you? then;r available to them, what i the aid agencies saying to you? they are sa ine agencies saying to you? they are saying basically. _ agencies saying to you? they are saying basically, i— agencies saying to you? they are saying basically, i mean, - agencies saying to you? they are saying basically, i mean, what. agencies saying to you? they are | saying basically, i mean, what we are seeing is the aid agencies getting into gear. the last two days i have been at this crossing, it has been the local council setting up tents providing cups of tea and very rudimentary chocolates, some are just for the children. now we are seeing big infrastructure building here, the un refugee agency has got people on the ground. they are also crossing on foot to see the situation on the far side, the ukrainian side of the border. we also know that in the last three

days 20,000 people have crossed at this order, probably the biggest one at the moment, and at four with border crossings from ukraine into hungary. not like the huge numbers we have seen crossing into poland, but certainly an increase in the numbers here today. that 20,000 crossing into hungary, part of this latest figure we have had from the unhcr of 368,000 people so far. tell us a little more about some of the stories things people have been actually saying to you. because so many of those people behind you i anticipate will have no plans in the immediate future, perhaps in the long—term future, of actually going back to home country. long-term future, of actually going back to home country.— back to home country. perhaps the most touching _ back to home country. perhaps the most touching story _ back to home country. perhaps the most touching story i _ back to home country. perhaps the most touching story i have - back to home country. perhaps the most touching story i have heard i most touching story i have heard this morning was from a 31—year—old ukrainian woman. she had been driven to this border by her husband. it took them three days to travel 800

kilometres or so from kyiv. he dropped her off at the border, she waited ten hoursjust dropped her off at the border, she waited ten hours just to cross on her own on foot. she is trying to get to serbia, where my three—year—old child is with her parents that and her husband are like —— oleg is driving back to take part in the defence of kyiv. he called her and it has so far taken him ten hours to travel 280 kilometres. those roads are choked with traffic, short of the food, short of fuel. very difficult situation and this woman, having won her way to reach serbia to be with her way to reach serbia to be with her child, she then, after a few days with him there, she said she wants to try to get back to kyiv to be with her husband. a very emotional and powerful story, very

powerful stories from the people here at this border crossing. ilick here at this border crossing. nick thor-e here at this border crossing. nick thorpe on _ here at this border crossing. nick thorpe on ukraine _ here at this border crossing. nick thorpe on ukraine hungary border, thank you very much for that. earlier my colleague spoke to uk's ambassador to the uk who told her more about the current military situation on the ground up you described more or less accurate the importance of a particular of a particular small town in the south, which has been shown specific because that is where the canal that used to supply water to crimea comes to our major river. russians already took it and they are stealing water. so they come notjust to make a point, they are doing some economic damage and providing something they needed. two major cities are symbolic for them to take over — kyiv as a capital, notjust of ukraine, the capital of all people of slavic descent. they stole even the name from us. now they came again. in terms of casualties, what are the numbers you have got of civilians,

and military on both sides? ijust read the numbers from the ministry — in terms of civilians, the casualties in hundreds, we have thousands of people wounded — kids, as well. we know we are trying not to disclose losses on the military side for obvious reasons, but we know we inflicted at least 3,000 people dead on the russian side. wounded, taken. we are trying to establish the hotline for russians to find their loved ones, those who fight in ukraine. it is life or death so they might reach out to them. we are doing all of this, as well. i understand you don't want to give away your own military casualties, but can you give us any sense of the losses? the losses are enormous because of the rockets being used, and the shelling from the black sea. the missiles in residential houses. you can imagine how the military

installations were suffering. that was what they tried to do in the first wave — to hit the military installations, waters, ammunition depots — so the loss of those people are great but we have enough people to survive, we are a big nation and everyone in ukraine, a noble effort. many people in ukraine can hold arms. we have been through the army, conscription — myself, for example. it is understandable that you are not allowing men to leave the country. but it is also distressing to witness that because if a man does not want to fight and feels he wants to leave with his wife, children, mother, sisters, should he not be free to be able to leave if he wants to? we are taking case—by—case. we understand sometimes these men are needed to support the family. we also try to to create the possibility for the families to be safe at least a couple of days. their neighbouring nations are coming to help. the small nations, they need financial support from bigger nations to be able to open up whatever the places are.

at the same time it is a critical time for us. nobody wanted to fight. not even those soldiers wanted to fight, but we are fighting and we have to find the resources for this — sorry. germany said it is breaking with its post—war policy and going to supply military help. it will be too late. we asked them so many times, for so many years. they were notjust not providing — they were blocking the support from other nations, from nato nations, using their right of veto on nato decisions. they came to change their mind but just a bit too late. if you have just joined if you havejustjoined us on bbc news, let's recap where we are in terms of today's developments because officials say the country's can lie in ukraine, kharkiv, remains under control of ukraine despite heavy street fighting and russian infantry vehicles are seen driving

through various residential areas. belarus's leader alexander lukashenko has aged ukraine's president to accept russia's offer in minsk of talks. elliot president zelensky ruled out holding those talks in the belarus capital, saying attacks have been launched from ukraine's neighbouring country. ukraine's neighbouring country. ukraine's president has accused russia of targeting civilian areas, including ambulances in what he said was a brutal overnight campaign. blasts were heard this morning in kyiv, last night and oil depot was blown up close to the capital and there have been warnings of potential toxic fumes being released. the un refugee agency has estimated 368,000 people have left ukraine to escape the conflict so far and those numbers are growing all the time. let's turn to some of the economic sanctions we have seen apply. the idea of putting pressure from the swift international payment system has been seen as a huge

threat. that has finally come into force. let's speak about this. katie prescott, in terms of the significance of this move, take us through it. it significance of this move, take us throueh it. .,, significance of this move, take us throueh it. ., , significance of this move, take us throueh it. .. , , significance of this move, take us through it— significance of this move, take us throueh it. ., , , .,, through it. it has been seen as the absolute nuclear _ through it. it has been seen as the absolute nuclear option _ through it. it has been seen as the absolute nuclear option and - through it. it has been seen as the absolute nuclear option and that i through it. it has been seen as the absolute nuclear option and that is how it is described because it is a universal payment system allowing payments around the world to be sent quickly and easily across borders. it really is universal, absolutely nothing like it. the reason western governments have been holding back at cutting russia off from it is because these systems work both ways. so it makes it harderfor russian businesses to get paid for their goods but also makes it very difficult for western companies who want to buy mission energy to pay them so the solution they have come up them so the solution they have come up with is to just cut certain of russia's banks out of the system and we will get more details on how exactly that will work tomorrow. the idea being that the blowback or collateral as it weren't for western companies will be limited. in terms

ofthe companies will be limited. in terms of the impact. _ companies will be limited. in terms of the impact, this _ companies will be limited. in terms of the impact, this was _ companies will be limited. in terms of the impact, this was tried - companies will be limited. in terms of the impact, this was tried once l of the impact, this was tried once before against iran and had a major, a 30% hit on their economy, so that is the prospect that one of the worries, the hesitations of doing this was china has a similar secondary system and whether it drives russia towards china and that system. drives russia towards china and that s stem. , ., ., , ,, . system. there is no doubt russia will be looking _ system. there is no doubt russia will be looking elsewhere - system. there is no doubt russia will be looking elsewhere to - system. there is no doubt russia will be looking elsewhere to get. system. there is no doubt russia i will be looking elsewhere to get its products and services but i think what is so interesting and important about swift is it is so universal and i have spoken to people in moscow this morning who say itjust makes doing business with russia nigh on impossible. so there might be some danger that russian companies will look elsewhere but, frankly, it really has been the nuclear option. in frankly, it really has been the nuclear option.— frankly, it really has been the nuclear option. in terms of the moves on _ nuclear option. in terms of the moves on the _ nuclear option. in terms of the moves on the central - nuclear option. in terms of the moves on the central banks, i nuclear option. in terms of the l moves on the central banks, we nuclear option. in terms of the - moves on the central banks, we were talking a few moments ago about the importance of that. this talking a few moments ago about the importance of that.— importance of that. this in many wa s is importance of that. this in many ways is even _ importance of that. this in many ways is even more _ importance of that. this in many ways is even more significant - importance of that. this in many i ways is even more significant than what has gone on with swift. by isolating russia's of central bank

western governments by trying to stop it from using that bank to mitigate the effect of any sanctions. russia has been building up sanctions. russia has been building up a massive war chest of foreign currency, of dollars, in order to try to prop up the rouble, to buy roubles. by cutting off the central bank means they are far less able to do that. that drops the value of the rouble, increases prices for ordinary russians and i'm afraid this really could have devastating consequences, eroding savings and making price risesjust enormous. thank you very much for taking us through all of that. let's turn to germany because in an address to emergency session of parliament in berlin olaf schultz has accused president putin of trying to create a russian empire. he said the conflict in ukraine meant the world had entered a new era. olaf schultz said sanctions imposed on moscow were having an impact on russian stocks, and also announced increased budget provisions were german military spending, setting aside

more than 2% of annual gross domestic product. let's talk to damian mcguinness in berlin. some really significant moves in berlin. take us through it because we had announcement on spending from gdp but also that historic move in terms of sending military equipment abroad. i of sending military equipment abroad. ~ of sending military equipment abroad. ,, , ., . of sending military equipment abroad. ,, . , abroad. i think historic is the word, abroad. i think historic is the word. quite _ abroad. i think historic is the word. quite a _ abroad. i think historic is the word, quite a remarkable - abroad. i think historic is the - word, quite a remarkable speech by chancellor scholz. it was met with ovation and on its of applause every time he mentioned the russian protesters in russia, supporting ukraine. he also, as soon as the ukrainian ambassador to berlin was introduced, who is also in the session, there was again the minutes of applause, a standing ovation from parliamentarians but it was the concrete measures that chancellor scholz announced that really took everyone by surprise and have been met with quite a lot of support here in germany already. they are an

extra 100 billion euros, more than $1.1 billion, for the german army. the constitutional commitment, which is more than previous pledges made, constitutional commitment to reach and probably exceed 2% of gdp in military spending target, which nato has been calling for four years. and then of course we saw last night the decision, confirmed today in parliament, by germany to send quite large numbers of arms to ukraine. all of this is really a seismic change in postwar german foreign policy because until now, as you know, germany has really set store on diplomacy, dialogue, but today chancellor scholz said you need to size the dialogue, putin he said is not willing to engage in cooperation, germany will keep the dialogue, will keep channels of communication open, that is the responsible thing to do, but i think germany is saying goodbye to any

hope of diplomacy as a way out of this crisis and is now accepting that military might well be needed to stop the kremlin carrying on its present course.— to stop the kremlin carrying on its present course. before i asked the next question _ present course. before i asked the next question i _ present course. before i asked the next question i want _ present course. before i asked the next question i want to _ present course. before i asked the next question i want to put - present course. before i asked the next question i want to put onto i present course. before i asked the | next question i want to put onto the screen some of the pictures coming to us from germany and the scenes on the streets, and huge numbers of people out there to really add their support to ukraine and the people of ukraine. you can see the flags, huge numbers in berlin as their countries' leaders take more action and of course germany criticising the criticised in the weeks leading up to the russian invasion in terms of how robust their response have been asked despite that criticism we have seen, since the invasion, really tough line taken from the german chancellor. instantly we had that nord stream 2 decision which was

seen as really significant coming out of berlin and now this news about sending military equipment, the amount of german spending on defence being raised, so in terms of the response it has been fast and significant there in germany. what else, potentially, do they think they have in terms of turning the screw further? chancellor scholz said more sanctions were being prepared and discussed and i think what we are seeing in germany is the start of a whole new approach to russia. you have to remember that olaf schultz belongs to a party which, since the second world war, has believed it is crucial to talk to russia, it has been part of that party, social democrats, the century left, it has been part of their raison d'etre. it

is supported by the green party, a pacifist party, set up in the peace movements of the 1960s, 1970s and 19805, movements of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, these parties do not throw weapons at crises with a glad heart. this is a seismic shift in what we are seeing in how germany views it this is significant because and russia traditionally have very strong cultural business and economic links. if vladimir putin thought that germany would provide any sort of weakness in the link within the eu why the western alliance, i think we can see from today has a decision and the speech in parliament and the protest on the streets in support of ukraine that mr putin can kiss those ideas goodbye because the decision from the government, this will change on thursday, this is a shift in german foreign policy in the last couple of days since the invasion and this has come from government leaders from mainstream centre—left and

centre—right opposition parties, from the government, but also from voters and the demonstrations you are seeing here in berlin either combination of a whole week of demonstrations across the country. these protests today are likely to be the largest, originally 20,000 people were registered. i think looking at the streets right now and who is coming in from where, we will seek much, much biggerfigures than this and this is what olaf schultz announced today, to a certain extent he is responding and has government is responding to pressure from german commentators, gem and leading figures and german voters who have, for a long time now, been working on germany to act more decisively and with more solidarity and support of ukraine. fetufe with more solidarity and support of ukraine. ~ ., with more solidarity and support of ukraine. . . , ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank ou ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank you very _ ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank you very much _ ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank you very much the _ ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank you very much the latest. - ukraine. we will leave it there, but thank you very much the latest. a l thank you very much the latest. a couple of lines bring you up—to—date with france now shutting their airspace to all mission aircraft, we have seen a number of moves in that direction from eu countries. i also

want to show you some of the latest pictures coming in because we mentioned that oil depot hit by air strikes overnight. this was the scene with the smoke still billowing into the sky after that oil depot was hit. there were fears earlier about toxic fumes being released but you can see the aftermath of of that russian action, the infrastructure again targeted overnight by the various russian strikes. ukraine has said it will create a fight against digital intrusions. the vice premier has said it has called on its hacker underground network to help protect critical infrastructure and conduct cyber spying missions against russian troops. they speak to the former chief executive of the uk's national cyber security centre. now an oxford

professor. how worried are you that the next strand of this conflict has already started? fetufe the next strand of this conflict has already started?— the next strand of this conflict has already started? we have to be on heiahtened already started? we have to be on heightened alert, _ already started? we have to be on heightened alert, clearly - already started? we have to be on | heightened alert, clearly ukrainians are. we on the west have to be on elect will cyber activity but it is worth saying that in the first four days of this horrific invasion that cyber has played remarkably little part in it so far. that could change thatis part in it so far. that could change that is not to say there hasn't been any cyber activity, there has been some quite aggressive attacks. just right at the beginning against ukrainian banks and government websites and government services but russia has been doing that to ukraine for years. we need to be calm but well—prepared. there are risks that if russia escalates against ukraine in cyberspace and the networked world, that overspills into the western. that happened five years ago when russia most ambitious

cyber attack against ukraine, nearly £10 billion worth of commercial damage in the west by accident. you mentioned ukraine is recruiting proxies to harass pressure in cyberspace. one group which was responsible for a devastating attack on the irish health care system last year has issued a public statement pledging alignment with the putin's regime and threatening retaliation against any country that aligns with ukraine, so we do have to be careful, we have to be better, we have to prepare ourselves and look at our own preparations and defences but they have not really happened yet. in but they have not really happened et. , ., , .. yet. in terms of being careful, the e-rou yet. in terms of being careful, the group anonymous _ yet. in terms of being careful, the group anonymous says _ yet. in terms of being careful, the group anonymous says they - yet. in terms of being careful, the group anonymous says they have | group anonymous says they have targeted the russian broadcasters rt and also the russian mod. is there a danger of that sort of action by groups like that actually provoking all the things that you are worried

about that then russia might hit back to the west with versions of their cyber retaliation? that back to the west with versions of their cyber retaliation?— their cyber retaliation? that is hossible their cyber retaliation? that is possible but — their cyber retaliation? that is possible but the _ their cyber retaliation? that is possible but the risk— their cyber retaliation? that is possible but the risk of - their cyber retaliation? that is possible but the risk of an - possible but the risk of an overspill from russia operations and actions by russian proxies are probably a greater risk. we need to keep this in perspective. sometimes we view cyber as a single group of operations, they can be very different, some of the things anonymous are talking about are trying to irritate russia rather than a cheap strategic impact. whoever took down the kremlin website yesterday, that is an embarrassment but not strategic impact. attacks on critical infrastructure are much harder to do and it tends to be governments that have capabilities to do it in a very impactful and devastating ways. there is a medium space occupied by criminals where they can call social and economic disruption —— cause disruption. i'm not sure activities

are anonymous, it is hard to ascertain what is going on on the ground, it would trigger that sort of reaction. i think it is much more than the states involved, russia, ukraine and the west, being cautious in the cyber capabilities so far in. 30 seconds if you would, in terms of the strength of defences in various western capitals, the infrastructures that need to be protected. how would you assess the strength, the ability to be able to withstand anything that comes out of moscow? it is withstand anything that comes out of moscow? , , . . , moscow? it is better than it was, considerably _ moscow? it is better than it was, considerably better _ moscow? it is better than it was, considerably better than - moscow? it is better than it was, considerably better than it - moscow? it is better than it was, considerably better than it was. i moscow? it is better than it was, | considerably better than it was. it varies from sector to sector but i think we are all —— are all responsible company should do now is czech defence plans but also resilience plans because the key thing to withstand the major hostile cyber operation, should one happen, is how well you can cope. if you lose a bit of a network or all of the key network, how do you keep going? that is what matters when

defending against hostile cyber operations. defending against hostile cyber operations-— defending against hostile cyber o-erations. . . ., ,, defending against hostile cyber o-erations. . . . ,, operations. ciaran martin, thank you for 'oinine operations. ciaran martin, thank you forjoining us— operations. ciaran martin, thank you forjoining us on _ operations. ciaran martin, thank you forjoining us on the _ operations. ciaran martin, thank you forjoining us on the programme. - operations. ciaran martin, thank you forjoining us on the programme. as| forjoining us on the programme. as we have been hearing, thousands of people are attempting to flee ukraine. we have seen those huge crowds at train stations but there have been some reports on social media of people of african and indian descent having particular problems. our south asia editor is joining me to discuss this. lipika pelham, what are you hearing to quiz out there are disturbing accounts on social media. we have seen video footage— seen video footage students are beine held seen video footage students are being held back— seen video footage students are being held back and _ seen video footage students are being held back and turned - seen video footage students are | being held back and turned away seen video footage students are . being held back and turned away by ukrainian officials. officials and military. indian students, there are tens of thousands of indian students stuck at the border. the long polish border and they are not only being turned away, some allege they are

being beaten up and some of them have been beaten up and soldiers are firing in the air and being mistreated and pushed and i have also seen video footage of indian and african students being pushed and african students being pushed and officials barricading between trains and students. they allege that this is happening because of india's vote to abstain from the un security council vote and officials are apparently telling them that if you did this and why can't we do this? there isn't any official verification about that. there are re horts verification about that. there are reports suggesting _ verification about that. there are reports suggesting those - verification about that. there are reports suggesting those people | verification about that. there are i reports suggesting those people are not being allowed on those trains out? i know communications are incredibly difficult but is there anything in response that has come from ukrainian officials, the authorities themselves, in terms of responding to these reports? fetufe authorities themselves, in terms of responding to these reports? we have not no responding to these reports? we have got no response _ responding to these reports? we have got no response from _ responding to these reports? we have got no response from ukraine - got no response from ukraine officials yet but we are trying. i have tried to call them and put in a

request. but there has been some kind of response from ukrainian ambassador to the united nations before the vote, or immediately after the vote, saying that i issued after the vote, saying that i issued a thought before making a decision and it is exactly the safety of your nationals in ukraine that you should be the first to vote to stop the war and not to think whether you should vote or not vote. i have spoken to one of the zambian students who managed to cross the border, the polish border, and she was stuck with 30 other students, african students, at the border and she was very happy that i called, but she didn't want to give us an interview. she said that she is very lucky to have escaped. sine she said that she is very lucky to have escaped-— she said that she is very lucky to have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has — have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has got _ have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has got out. _ have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has got out. thank - have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has got out. thank you - have escaped. she has got out and stuck it has got out. thank you for| stuck it has got out. thank you for bringing us the latest on that particular strand. we are about to take a break. let me take you back to those live pictures in germany because so many people... those are

the pictures of ukraine, that oil depot that has been hit and these are the pictures from germany as thousands are now on the streets to voice their support for ukraine. stay with us on bbc news. hello. a lot of sunshine on the way for the uk today, perhaps, if anything, the sunshine more widespread than yesterday. yesterday, we had a weather front draped across scotland and northern ireland. today, that front will still be close by, but this big area of high pressure sitting across the continent, well, if anything, it will tend to push back on it somewhat. so i think across eastern scotland, for example, and perhaps to the east of northern ireland, there will be more brightness around, particularly through the afternoon, and we'll see the cloud eventually, hopefully shifting offshore, winds picking up — across the northwest of scotland, we could see gusts up to a0 miles per hour through the second half of the day. in terms of the temperatures, perhaps the shade down on yesterday — highs of nine to 11,

the odd spot could get up to 12 degrees. through the evening and overnight, however, we will see some thicker, more meaningful cloud approaching from the west as another area of low pressure starts to take influence on our weather. it will mean a milder night for the majority of the uk. just a chance, i think, of a few spots in easternmost england catching a frost as we look at the start of monday. generally, though, under the cloud, lows of five to eight and obviously under the cloud, a much greyer start to monday and much wetter start as well. and this front is going to be waving away as it comes in from the atlantic. what does that mean? well, itjust means it's not very easy to plot its progress with high confidence. it looks like wet weather, certainly for northern england, wales and the south—west of england through the daylight hours on monday. southern scotland catching some rain as well. northern scotland, northern ireland hopefully seeing something a little bit brighter, though the rain could bother the east of northern ireland through the day, the wetter conditions at the moment, our forecast has

them making their way through eastern england overnight into the small hours of tuesday, with the weather front then draping down towards the continent through the day on tuesday. but that position is subject to some question. if anything, it looks like there could be some heavier rain running in towards the south west of england, perhaps as far north as south wales and the south midlands later on in the day on tuesday. generally, as a rule of thumb for tuesday, the further north you are, the better your chances will be of being dry and bright. a more mixed story, though for wednesday and thursday generally more cloud for all parts of the uk and some outbreaks of rain at times too.

ukraine's president says his country has suffered a 'brutal�* night, this is either the headlines in the uk and around the world. ukrainian soldiers tried to repel russian soldiers tried to repel russian soldiers in the city of kharkiv. russian infantry vehicles as heavy fighting is spotted in ukraine's second largest city. russia stepped up second largest city. russia stepped up its attacks. unless all strike on an oil thermaljust outside kyiv sparks fears about toxic names. firefighters searched the rubble for survivors after russian shelling in the east. president zelensky accuses russia of deliberately targeting residential areas and reject an offer of peace talks in belarus. translation:— offer of peace talks in belarus. translation: ., , ., , , ., translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again _

translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again the _ translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again the shelling - translation: last night was brutal in ukraine. again the shelling and i in ukraine. again the shelling and bombing of residential areas and