tv Context BBC News March 2, 2022 9:00pm-10:01pm GMT
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you watch in context on bbc news. cities around ukraine under deadly attack by russian forces. in mariupol you can even see the city has nicked a catastrophe. there are more reports of rocket attacks on kharkiv and that the key port city of kherson has fallen to the russians. moscow admits nearly 500 of its soldiers were lost during the invasion that ukraine is that kills ten times that number. the chelsea club owner roman abramovich is going to sell chelsea football club promising to donate the proceeds to victims of the war within ukraine. tonight we have a
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russian expert and liberal democrat candidate edward lucas. a very good evening. a true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him but because he loves what is behind him. it is an old english boat, entirely appropriate this week as the ukrainian people and left soldiers fight desperately to hold onto what is theirs. outgunned and outnumbered maybe but the morale and the determination cannot be questioned. it is, however, taking its toll. more than 2000 ukrainians have been killed already. many more soldiers. and tonight moscow admitted for first time the cosplayer paying. 498 russian troops have died say the kremlin, with 600 injured. in these cities in the south and on the north of the country bevan mayers who are now making some agonising decisions
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—— there are mayers. in consultation with the people who stayed behind to fight. the film we are about to show you from a town north—east of kyiv and in this video you'll see two russian soldiers cheered the angry crowd that have arrived in a russian military police car. the mayor can be seen alongside them and one of the soldiers with both arms outstretched is holding a grenade in his hand. the mayor pushes the crowd back to allow them to drive away. but then he relays the conditions he has just been given. if we resist, he shouts, the russians will blast the city with artillery. are we not atomic once a fight? yes the crowd. of course i am fighting but we make the decision altogether because artillery is targeted at us. a voice in the crowd response they need to evacuate the women. tonight it
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remains ukrainian and so far they have refused to surrender. we start the night as we have every night with kyiv without chief international correspondent lyse doucet. it is chilling to watch that video because af�*s first responsibility is of course to his people and the safety of town but that may also has a responsibility to fight and resist. this is a truly agonising pigment he's in. we hear it from the mayor of kyiv a former champion boxer who's hung up the boxing gloves and now wears an olive—green military uniform just like the president volodymyr zelensky. every day we hear from politico telling the residents of this capital to stay indoors and if
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you are a civilian who has picked up a gun come out and defend your city —— everyday we hear from a gun come out and defend your city —— everyday we hearfrom klitchko. we are hearing about tonight in the southern port city of kherson when it does seem that the city has fallen to russian forces because the authorities there are telling the people that there are no longer ukrainian voted there. these are life—and—death decisions. the fight to the last person and to the last building? when you decide that the fight is over and that the fighters to preserve the the people and the buildings, what is left of your city? buildings, what is left of your ci ? . . ~' buildings, what is left of your ci ? . ., ~ ., , city? can we talk about the figures that have been _ city? can we talk about the figures that have been released _ city? can we talk about the figures that have been released today. - city? can we talk about the figures | that have been released today. the motion say they have lost 498 soldiers, 1600 into —— the russians say. ijust want soldiers, 1600 into —— the russians say. i just want to put some perspective on that for our viewers. in 20 years of war in afghanistan the uk lost a57 and the russians, by their own admission, had lost a98 in
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a week. by any measure, that has to go down as a complete failure, doesn't it?— doesn't it? one, it is very difficult. _ doesn't it? one, it is very difficult, as _ doesn't it? one, it is very difficult, as you _ doesn't it? one, it is very difficult, as you know, - doesn't it? one, it is very difficult, as you know, to| doesn't it? one, it is very - difficult, as you know, to compare casualties in walls such as this false and very different terrain. the british casualties were taken in the province of helmand fighting in villages, of course, against the taliban. now we are talking about urban warfare here in eight european country. —— in a european country. you are right, it is a heavy loss. when figures were released the reaction was for the first time russia is actually admitting it has taken casualties. all the reports we will receiving from russia is that they don't talk about an invasion, they don't talk about an invasion, they don't talk about an invasion, they don't talk about attacks, they talk about a war that they are winning and then look at the figures the ukrainians are putting out. and what we heard tonight from some
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western officials that the real figure could be 5000 6000. we can't verify either what the russians were saying or what ukrainians are saying but that is a huge gap in the numbers on the casualty figures and how to find a balance between the two and what we do know is from seeing the video seen the seeing the impact of the weapons that are being used for resistance that has been put up by ukrainian forces but the russians are taking casualties, ukrainians are as well and so are civilians. women, children, families sitting on their own homes old on their way to buy supplies or flee their way to buy supplies or flee the fighting. 3�*8 their way to buy supplies or flee the fighting-— the fighting. 78 tonight, lyse doucet, another _ the fighting. 78 tonight, lyse doucet, another night - the fighting. 78 tonight, lyse doucet, another night of - the fighting. 78 tonight, lyse i doucet, another night of waiting the fighting. 78 tonight, lyse - doucet, another night of waiting and they must be long, long days for people who have decided to stay in the capital and you have safety in the capital and you have safety in the bond shelter but how long do you live perpetually on the ground? —— the bond shelter. with the worrying
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thing is has been that there has been an explosion near the station that might affect heating in the city and you will tell us that the temperatures are still very cold in ukraine at the moment. it is temperatures are still very cold in ukraine at the moment.— ukraine at the moment. it is very cold and i — ukraine at the moment. it is very cold and i look _ ukraine at the moment. it is very cold and i look across, _ ukraine at the moment. it is very cold and i look across, your - ukraine at the moment. it is very i cold and i look across, your viewers can see some of this and the city has been plunged into darkness but people live in darkness, as you say, and they have now dropped down to the subterranean world of basements and bunkers in bomb shelters and they venture out in the morning when they venture out in the morning when the curfew ends but no sooner do they do that than the air raid siren ones and they are wondering why rush to the shops and see if there is anything on the shelves, to buy race back to my basement and it has been a week now are going up and down, up and down. lh silence i going constantly and tonight was the loudest band we heard in the centre of the city and it now seems that
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the railway station was hit and it was not hit by the russian missile that was intercepted by the surface—to—air missile fired by the ukrainian forces and possibly the russian missile was targeting a security installation and the... that fell from the intersection actually hit the railway station. unfortunately in this kind of situation in the curfew there were no people there because yes one of the reports is that there was a heating installation but quite frankly if kyiv was the place it normally was the place would have impacts but people were not at the railway station during the curfew and, indeed, this was a city that streets are empty now.- and, indeed, this was a city that streets are empty now. thank you very much — streets are empty now. thank you very much for— streets are empty now. thank you very much for all— streets are empty now. thank you very much for all your _ streets are empty now. thank you very much for all your opposing i very much for all your opposing today. good to see. to stay safe.
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we often talk about president putin being a strategic genius but he is not. he isjust more winning comic willing to let people die, even his own people die. i willing to let people die, even his own peeple die-— willing to let people die, even his own people die. i have never shared this idea that _ own people die. i have never shared this idea that putin _ own people die. i have never shared this idea that putin is _ own people die. i have never shared this idea that putin is a _ own people die. i have never shared this idea that putin is a strategic - this idea that putin is a strategic genius. i think he has a very sharp tactical sense and is very good doing things that keep people guessing, things we won't predict, saving most of it, and he has certainly done that many times over the last 22 years but if you look at the last 22 years but if you look at the strategy he has made russia into an international pariah state. i don't think that's is a great strategic achievement and he seems to have believed his own propaganda and of course one of the great things about a proper strategist is you are informing yourself very widely and make sure you have heard views from people you disagree with. putin didn't do that. his military underestimated the strength of the ukrainian resistance. he believed that ukraine was languishing under some kind of nazi yoke and would be joyful about its liberation at the hands of russian soldiers and all
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that hasn't happened. he also underestimated the strength and determination of the west's response of it is a pretty bleak look out at the moment for him and the main way out involves wading through blood, knee deep, waist deep even higher. we were told today although we should of course treat the figures with some caution, marianne, that there has been a ten or 12% bump in approvalfor the russian president, approval for the russian president, president approvalfor the russian president, president in russia but of course you wonder how much of this reporting of these figures in these death rates and injury rates actually gets back to the people but there will be families in russia have lost young men and many of them are conscripts and if an american president was reporting figures like this he'd be under severe pressure. no doubt about it, christine, but i think your original point vladimir putin doesn't care how many people he kills. i do ukrainians or his own
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people in the pursuit of this goal and i think he is a ruthless, bloodless killer. he always has been. so i think two things in front of us, one, when does an invasion genocide and two, at the superpowers of the world, united states, great britain, europe and all the and others prepared to make that decision and what to do if and when that comes because, asjoe biden said last night, at state of the union, blood putin has to be stopped but no one so far and god bless ukrainians, they are fighting likely we could ever have imagined —— vladimir putin. never underestimate the human spirit but at some point if he does take ukraine he has not been stopped and the second point is he has really telegraphed his strategy. he is coming for the cities, he is going to take out the leadership in the cities. note that he has not taken out any infrastructure, no airfields, no roads, no bridges. it is unlikely he was targeting the railway but maybe
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the heating system because he doesn't want to rebuild ukraine, he just wants to take it over and occupy it and run it to his own liking so i think that is what we know about vladimir putin and i think there are some very difficult days ahead, not only for the ukrainians but also for everybody in this world who opposes what vladimir putin has done in this invasion and they have to think long and hard about the links they don't have to go to stopping. i about the links they don't have to go to stepping-— go to stopping. i want to talk len go to stopping. i want to talk plenty more _ go to stopping. i want to talk plenty more about _ go to stopping. i want to talk plenty more about how - go to stopping. i want to talk plenty more about how we i go to stopping. i want to talk - plenty more about how we might stop in the world might stop after that vote at the general assembly today but for the moment let's talk about where we are a week into the battle because this time last week the russians were just preparing to roll over the border so here is the map. the areas in red show where the russian troops have got to so far. never thought she cities on that map, captive in the northeast, kherson and my vehicle in the south —— kharkiv in the north—east. —— marie opel in the south. i correspond has been taking a look at
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russia's military strategy so far. russia's main strategy has been to capture the seat of the government and centre of resistance. much of the armoured column moving down towards kyiv composed of logistics and prove that russia is moving to that long hole and possibly a siege of the city. meanwhile, russian paratroopers have landed in the city is coming under bombardment. down in the south russia claims it has captured the city of kherson. ukraine disputes this but russian forces are certainly pushing to join up forces are certainly pushing to join up their allies in the donbas appear. i want to talk about the southern part of that map there and about mariupol. the russians want this
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land bridge between ukraine and russia towards crimea. that would visually give them the whole they are looking for. how significant is that? i are looking for. how significant is that? 4' ., , ., ~ that? i think if we had been talking a week ago we _ that? i think if we had been talking a week ago we might _ that? i think if we had been talking a week ago we might have - that? i think if we had been talking a week ago we might have said - that? i think if we had been talking| a week ago we might have said that is extraordinarily important because to some people that was maybe the extent of putting's ambition. marie opal was considered to be a major target when the motions last had troops in ukraine in 201a, regular troops. when mariupol looked like it might fall. and it didn't. and it still hasn't fallen. so, in that sense, it looked quite important because, as you said, there is a route to crimea but i think in terms of the big picture it is less important now. it is clear that southern ukraine is very difficult for the ukrainian government, that it is a much harder place now to defend because of what is coming in from the crimea but it is not the
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main target for russia. the main target is kyiv and kharkiv at the moment so that is where i think the big decisions on this war are going to be made. lyse hasjust been telling us that the russians are telling us that the russians are telling us that the russians are telling us they have taken control of kherson in the south but i have been seeing pictures today of people verified on social media of russian soldiers going into the supermarkets in that city and stealing food and that tells me they don't have food then possibly they don't have supply lines to the planet indeed fuel so they might hold it but how long can they might hold it but how long can they hold it for? —— supply lines to replenish arms or indeed fuel. i think we're going to season very confusing situation is coming up in the coming days. as we can tell, kherson has fallen and the mayor has acknowledged military administrator may take over but that is not the same as holding or dealing with the
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local resistance and possibly more violent accident against the russians. one of the point is already being watched is how the local population reacts to this and as you say how they keep their forces applied. again, the south is going to be less difficult than other places but we know that there are really big developing for the relations, for example, in that famous convoy en route to cf which is, as you say, not only stalled but under some attack as well. can is, as you say, not only stalled but under some attack as well.- is, as you say, not only stalled but under some attack as well. can i ask ou about under some attack as well. can i ask you about the _ under some attack as well. can i ask you about the russian _ under some attack as well. can i ask you about the russian air _ under some attack as well. can i ask you about the russian air force? - you about the russian air force? we are constantly reporting that the cruise missiles coming in, rockets being fired, all types of indiscriminate shelling. but we're not talking about the russian air force. we have hardly seen them feature at all in the first week of the conflict. why is that? it is
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feature at all in the first week of the conflict. why is that?- the conflict. why is that? it is a uzzle. i the conflict. why is that? it is a puzzle. i mean, _ the conflict. why is that? it is a puzzle. i mean, there - the conflict. why is that? it is a puzzle. i mean, there had - the conflict. why is that? it is a puzzle. i mean, there had been the conflict. why is that? it is a - puzzle. i mean, there had been some air that they haven't been totally absent but i think most analysts would assumed that the first thing the russian military would do in the first days of the war that would take out completely ukrainian air force and their defences and they just haven't done that so it was not a puzzle and it has left them very vulnerable and we have seen a number of air strikes by the ukrainians on russian forces certainly earlier in the campaign and still a bit today so that as a surprise and its think it goes back to the basic problem with this whole russian campaign as it seems to have been formulated in a rather arrogant way despite all the time that they had they seem to have believed their own propaganda, that ukraine somehow wasn't a proper state and it is ruled by an
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illegitimate government and the people don't care for it and so on and theyjust people don't care for it and so on and they just weren't people don't care for it and so on and theyjust weren't prepared for what they came up against and believed that they could dash into kyiv and other places and gain a quick fix ofjust hasn't happened so they have now found themselves with a much tougher fight than they were anticipating. it is a much tougher fight than they were antici atina. , ., a much tougher fight than they were antici atin. , ., ., . ., , anticipating. it is a macabre business — anticipating. it is a macabre business but _ anticipating. it is a macabre business but i _ anticipating. it is a macabre business but i know - anticipating. it is a macabre business but i know for - business but i know for someone who studies war like you do they would look at the strategy of how it is conducted and i wonder if you look at the various reports coming in of russian conscripts are rendering quite easily and the supply line problem is that they've got with this convoy north of kyiv and also the questions that are of president putin and we don't know what his objectives are and how they might have changed since the invasion i wonder what conclusions you draw at the end of the first week. i think as you said clearly their initial
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plan hasn't worked. the question that they have two face is whether they have the troops with the morale and tactical skills to get in and stay in the major cities and, sadly, what seems to be happening instead is that president putin has authorised and encouraged a much more punitive campaign against ukraine attacking as we've seen civilian targets, some quasi military was effectively civilian targets as well.— military was effectively civilian targets as well. and this will be either may _ targets as well. and this will be either may be _ targets as well. and this will be either may be to _ targets as well. and this will be either may be to soften - targets as well. and this will be either may be to soften them . targets as well. and this will be | either may be to soften them up targets as well. and this will be - either may be to soften them up so that he gets more concessions from the ceasefire negotiations to the extent they make any progress, maybe it's about trying to create a much easier set of targets if they're going to try to push into the city centres. maybe it's almost a siege attempt so that you can force the
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population is the correspondence have been showing us, underground. you look for shortages of food in medicine and a degree of desperation to comment. all of these are horrible things to be doing, very cruel, but they are not necessarily going to produce the results that putin wants so we are entering a very difficult and uncertain period in conflicts but it is by no means clear that putin has actually got a way to get his objectives which as he has stated today and has been restated today by his foreign ministry at laugh laugh is about the demilitarisation of ukraine and the neutralisation of ukraine and clearly weakening it so that it is essentially a colony in some ways of
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motion. ., ., essentially a colony in some ways of motion. ., ~ , ., essentially a colony in some ways of motion. ., ~ ,, , . essentially a colony in some ways of motion. ., ,, ,, , . ., essentially a colony in some ways of motion. ., ~ , . ., motion. thank you very much for your anal sis. motion. thank you very much for your analysis- good — motion. thank you very much for your analysis. good to _ motion. thank you very much for your analysis. good to talk— motion. thank you very much for your analysis. good to talk to _ motion. thank you very much for your analysis. good to talk to you. - motion. thank you very much for your analysis. good to talk to you. do - analysis. good to talk to you. do you think putin is getting an accurate picture here? is russian intelligence good? they don't appear to me to have a tradition of speaking truth to power. you are absolutely right and what russian intelligence knows is one thing what they pass on the buses and put in the years seems to have become quite detached from reality and people with netting like the former german chancellor angela merkel says he lives in his own world and american official says he lives in his own world and american officials say he could spend his time coming up with crazy conspiracy theories about how the world works and of course it is one in powerfor too long, whether you're the editor of the newspaper, boss of a company or dictator of a superpower, people stop interrupting you, stop
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contradicting you and power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely anything putin is an example of that and this is notjust the financial corruption we have seenin the financial corruption we have seen in russia but it is also a kind of mental and moral corruption where he doesn't get anyone to tell him he is doing something wrong and one of the great things about democracies as we have a way of stopping mistakes before we make them and when we do make them we were warned about them and it doesn't really work but it works a lot better than this kind of top down personalised system put in as percent of russia. even the soviet union had institutions and with putin it is just very, very small number of friends, old kgb people who share his very paranoid and i think badly informed world outlook. i his very paranoid and i think badly informed world outlook.— informed world outlook. i wonder whether he _ informed world outlook. i wonder whether he is _ informed world outlook. i wonder whether he is paying _ informed world outlook. i wonder whether he is paying attention i informed world outlook. i wonder whether he is paying attention to | whether he is paying attention to events in new york today because the un general assembly adopted a resolution condemning the invasion of ukraine. 35 abstained including
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china and india. five voted against but it is a non—binding resolution with no teeth, no legal force. although it is a powerful political statement that in some way brings them closer. this afternoon at the bbc spoke to a long—time supporter of president putin and former adviser on foreign affairs to the russian duma director general of the un foreign affairs council. he has a suggestion of who might poke talks. i think it should be a voice from _ poke talks. i think it should be a voice from the _ poke talks. i think it should be a voice from the outside, - poke talks. i think it should be a voice from the outside, a - poke talks. i think it should be a j voice from the outside, a person poke talks. i think it should be a - voice from the outside, a person who he respects and trusts. i personally thought of angela merkel for chancellor because she knows the ukrainian problem. she signed the minsk agreement. she is respected in russia, in ukraine, in europe. she might be the person to help find a solution to this problem. he thinks
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anuela solution to this problem. he thinks angela merkel. _ solution to this problem. he thinks angela merkel, edward. _ solution to this problem. he thinks angela merkel, edward. i- solution to this problem. he thinks angela merkel, edward. i know- solution to this problem. he thinks i angela merkel, edward. i know you've just written a piece on the chinese and the role that the chinese may play. how do you think that will unfold? i play. how do you think that will unfold? ., , ,. , ., unfold? i would be sceptical about that. i unfold? i would be sceptical about that- ithink— unfold? i would be sceptical about that. i think angela _ unfold? i would be sceptical about that. i think angela merkel - unfold? i would be sceptical about that. i think angela merkel comes| that. i think angela merkel comes with some baggage because of her role in the 2008 nato summit in bucharest which gave ukraine a kind of half promise that it could join nato at some point but no idea of when that might be and how it might happen and i think that however this is going to involve painful confessions on both sides of my bet is that it would be the chinese and the chinese have a strong ability to exert pressure on china, and russia, because they have a show�*s only remaining friends in lifeline so they say to putin you have to sign here there is actually a chance of him signing and i think the chinese also could separate the question of nato, the question of the eu, and they could say to the russians that
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we agree that the uk is not going to join native for the foreseeable future and in return for that they get the eu and i would be something the ukrainians i think would jump at. i think also the chinese could example say that they want peacekeepers, may be un peacekeepers, may be un peacekeepers, to take over from the russian occupying forces and of course look at the chinese peacekeepers and this would give even a great foot on the door and ukrainian agility so i would be watching the china angle very closely but i think merkel is too closely but i think merkel is too close to this and consider too much mistrust and baggage directions. harps mistrust and baggage directions. how would the white house to be that? obviously they would be suspicious of chinese involvement and a one with the neutral zone, the finland dilation of ukraine flies any more at what's happened this last week. —— the neutral zone, the
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finlandization. it -- the neutral zone, the finlandization.— -- the neutral zone, the finlandization. ., , finlandization. it would be met with furious opposition _ finlandization. it would be met with furious opposition by _ finlandization. it would be met with furious opposition by republicans i finlandization. it would be met with furious opposition by republicans in particular— furious opposition by republicans in particular and a number of democrats too. particular and a number of democrats too china _ particular and a number of democrats too china is— particular and a number of democrats too. china is a very hot issue and if angela — too. china is a very hot issue and if angela merkel would be better received — if angela merkel would be better received and trusted name by all parties. — received and trusted name by all parties, seen as remote from it. everybody— parties, seen as remote from it. everybody knows how tough she is and she suffers _ everybody knows how tough she is and she suffers. lightly it also with all due — she suffers. lightly it also with all due respect to edward in terms of the _ all due respect to edward in terms of the united states position i think— of the united states position i think xi — of the united states position i think xi jinping would be very difficult — think xi jinping would be very difficult to expect. that is based on whether putin would ever be willing — on whether putin would ever be willing to — on whether putin would ever be willing to engage in those talks. so far every— willing to engage in those talks. so far every talk has been a sham with putin— far every talk has been a sham with putin leading up to and including this day— putin leading up to and including this day and what we have to look too is _ this day and what we have to look too is outside pressure inside pressure _ too is outside pressure inside pressure negotiations some point can the russian _ pressure negotiations some point can the russian people turn against him, the russian people turn against him, the military— the russian people turn against him, the military turn against him and do oligarchs— the military turn against him and do oligarchs turn against him. we talked about this last week and we
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begin— talked about this last week and we begin to _ talked about this last week and we begin to see the now.— begin to see the now. question is how ou begin to see the now. question is how you give _ begin to see the now. question is how you give him _ begin to see the now. question is how you give him a _ begin to see the now. question is how you give him a political i begin to see the now. question is how you give him a political when j begin to see the now. question is i how you give him a politicalwhen he how you give him a political when he can sell at home and that is very difficult for the ukrainians to sign up difficult for the ukrainians to sign up to. we have got more coming up in the special programme. we are going to talk about chelsea football club in roman abramovich. stay with us. hello, again. it has been a pretty grey, cloudy and soggy day for most of us with a weather front slowly moving across the country bringing outbreaks of rain and misty conditions but across scotland weather watcher would probably have thought the weather was hunky—dory with clear blue skies like these after a cold and frosty start. on the satellite picture there is the weather front that has been bringing the damn weather today and we have another weather front and this is very gradually over the next couple of days going to drag its heels and push across the country and kind of grants to a halt across central areas is it nonsense of the saviour
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of dry pressure across scandinavia. the next few days we will see a loss of cloud and rain and suddenly overnight tonight will see that damp weather extending across northern ireland reaching west but then, wales, parts of extras western scotland. at the fog and eastern scotland. at the fog and eastern scotland and also the high ground in england and wales. making out to some of you. tomorrow morning is a great start the someday of another. the saviour of rain will take pretty much four hours. to the service we might see some whitish spells across central and southern england and it should brighten up pretty late on a day for northern ireland, wales and parts of south—west england will be have also sings and broken cloud and sunny spells. by friday we pick up an art weather front across eastern areas of england and the rain turning heavier for a across north—east england where it is going to be quite a heavy day and temperature turning into newcastle may be a little bit better than a face in scotland. the
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best inside the country hides between eight and 11 degrees. at the weekend that weather front finally gets squished by this building area of high fashion which is building right over the top of the country. still got a lot of cloud around on saturday because england may be eastern wales enough to bring some patchy rain and for most of us and they will be a dry day with vital sunny spells, temperature is about nine or 10 celsius. the next week it stays mostly dry with some sunshine but we are going to start to develop some cold east or south easterly winds. that's your weather.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching context on bbc news. pressure steps up its assault on ukraine and more cities around the country coming under ——. the mayor says russian schelling is infecting very high casualties and the civilian population there. hundreds of workers brought an access road to a ukrainian nuclear power plant as russian forces advanced in the area. and the russian billionaire announces he is selling chelsea football club promising to donate the proceeds to victims of the war in ukraine. tonight tonight with the context, the democratic strategist mary ann marsh and russian expert and liberal democrat candidate edward lucas.
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and liberal democrat some breaking news that we are getting from the city at the top of the programme reports where city has fallen this would be the first major city in the russians have captured and the mayor of that city has just put a statement confirming that the russians have control. i did not give them any promises. i don't have anything to promise and there were not negotiations or anything there were already rumoured about. no one had read anything with me however there are armed visitors in the city council today. they have given him some directives and he says that ease asked them not to shoot at people and we don't have ukrainian armed forces in the city, only civilians and people who want to live here. and among those terms
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you've been given, people will only be able to go into the city in the afternoon. the curfew will be in place from eight until 6am in the morning. only cars with food, medicine, and other things can go into the city. pedestrians are only allowed a maximum of two and the military must not be provoked to see the russians and the first demand a stop pedestrians must do so so there is no conflict. just to remind you, it is a regional centre noise —— north of crimea. it sits at the mild of the river as it reaches the back see. previously home to a quarter of a million people and it would have been the first major city to fall to russian voices but we should as lorenz was telling us earlier treat that with some caution because there are questions about supply lines and we do know of course that ukrainian
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forces are in the area. things might be fluid over the next few days but for the time being at least the forces you see there in the city centre are the russian forces. the new task force will include prosecutors, federal agents and experts on money laundering working with the uk and europeans to target objects and real estate that they believe fall foul of the sanctions. there is evidence some of the wealthiest russians are beginning to return to moscow and liquidating assets and tonight that man on your screen the russian billionaire roman abramovich announced ease putting chelsea football club up for sale. in a statement he said...
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with us is the chelsea legend pat and bbc commentator. thank you for being with us. i suppose in a sense this was inevitable. he tried to put it into a a charitable foundation at the beginning of the week which some people question and there are members of the house of commons who have been enjoying particular attention to him. the question is is there a buyer?— attention to him. the question is is there a buyer? there will be a buyer first of all- — there a buyer? there will be a buyer first of all- i— there a buyer? there will be a buyer first of all. i was _ there a buyer? there will be a buyer first of all. i was one _ there a buyer? there will be a buyer first of all. i was one of— first of all. i was one of those people questioned to go the way it was clean and i'm not surprised if humid put up for sale. they will be many buyers. it'sjust humid put up for sale. they will be many buyers. it's just whether he will get into the hands of someone he feels comfortable with. i do believe if he could have stayed he would have stayed but that's impossible and it's the right thing
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for him to gojust impossible and it's the right thing for him to go just now. impossible and it's the right thing for him to gojust now. if impossible and it's the right thing for him to go just now. if you look at what the club is it's now a world—class club and it's got a huge support all over the world and currently world champions. they need a lot of money because people put billion into the club to an internet position. so to stay where they are just now it will have to be a very wealthy owner who comes in. whether they will be spending anywhere close to that sun of money, who knows. there's absolutely no idea about that. just to run the club the losses it's going to take a wealthy individual or something other than that. it’s individual or something other than that. �* , ., ., individual or something other than that. �*, ., ., ., that. it's going to need enormous restructuring _ that. it's going to need enormous restructuring because _ that. it's going to need enormous restructuring because they - that. it's going to need enormous restructuring because they have l that. it's going to need enormous restructuring because they have a huge outreach programme and a number of players, more than most and clearly the money does not play to the wages that they have had over the wages that they have had over the years. you talk to people around the years. you talk to people around
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the club. how regularly he was he able to be there after the salisbury incident because i got the sense he did not come to london as much as he had. �* , ,., , ., did not come to london as much as he had. n, , ., did not come to london as much as he had. absolutely not. he was rarely seen about — had. absolutely not. he was rarely seen about the _ had. absolutely not. he was rarely seen about the place. _ had. absolutely not. he was rarely seen about the place. it's - had. absolutely not. he was rarely seen about the place. it's been i seen about the place. it's been uncomfortable i suspect for him. i don't know them at all. but i think he wanted to spend my time at the club but that was impossible for him over the past couple years. he did not affect the passion he had. there's no question he certainly had that passion but he said in the first statement there have been three statements now, this one i understand it better. he said many of the things, not everything but many things had to be said and ease been open about it. he said about custodianship and he was talking about handing it over and you always
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had custodianship of the football club. you don't own a club forever, no matter who you are. doesn't matter the organisation. we are taking care of it for a period of time and for 19 years those 19 years have been for chelsea and i would not be surprised if they will be back as the golden years in chelsea history because the level they are they need to get an owner who has they need to get an owner who has the largess that has been showing and to be fair that's unlikely. ease den in: and to be fair that's unlikely. ease denying ease _ and to be fair that's unlikely. ease denying ease close _ and to be fair that's unlikely. ease denying ease close to _ and to be fair that's unlikely. ease denying ease close to vladimir putin but i said last night in the programme you cannot have it both ways. he said to the ukrainian baby i could speak to vladimir putin for you what either he is close to vladimir putin or ease not. i got the sense that looking at the cloud at wimpy on sunday with the ukrainian flags that were among them
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that some chelsea supporters who were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game — were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game as _ were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game as well _ were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game as well and _ were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game as well and the _ were deeply uncomfortable. yes i was at the game as well and the fans i at the game as well and the fans were seeing the will not walk alone when the ukrainian flag was put up but they were making it clear what side and most of the people in the uk but in the last in the entire world just about her on the same side and on the same page on this one so that may have been uncomfortable for abramovich. i do believe that abramovich's family nw queen anne backgrounds as well so it's an extremely unusual possession anyway. he has got that to do and ease getting it as quick as he can and that is clear. there will be
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people who understandably so say making sure he does that so he does not lose any more money because the sanctions are certainly going to coming against him and all the other oligarchs but that does not really linked to what's been happening at chelsea because it's the same situation ease in and there no point in trying to make himself look good it's not going to happen. ease got to leave it and get out. can i say one thing. it's important but talking about football and ownership of clubs so what? honestly, it's a club i have passion for but it's only football and... the club i have passion for but it's only football and... the making of --eole only football and... the making of people who _ only football and... the making of people who own football - only football and... the making of people who own football clubs i only football and... the making of people who own football clubs is l only football and... the making ofj people who own football clubs is a big issue and it needs to be a lot better. . . . . . big issue and it needs to be a lot better. , . , , , ., better. it is a big issue and i think it's _ better. it is a big issue and i think it's an _ better. it is a big issue and i i think it's an important discussion and am happy to have but as long as people don't think it's in anyway important as what's in ukraine just
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now what we all want to see if the most important thing is we stand right behind ukrainian people and for the freedoms they should have and desperate and upsetting and i don't see any easy way out. my anger gets upset very quickly because you talk about the business of football and i'm thinking it's only a game and i'm thinking it's only a game and people say if each of football but maybe football does have to look at itself. maybe football has to consider about ownership because you talk about chelsea but there's plenty other clubs there when you look around and you think wait a minute, that feels good and the money is running in but it's a surprise to me in the long term and a pink in the short term as well you can think football has to be careful it does not lose its soul and that's
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a reasonable question. it’s it does not lose its soul and that's a reasonable question.— a reasonable question. it's a good oint ou a reasonable question. it's a good point you make — a reasonable question. it's a good point you make and _ a reasonable question. it's a good point you make and a _ a reasonable question. it's a good point you make and a lot - a reasonable question. it's a good point you make and a lot of- a reasonable question. it's a good | point you make and a lot of people agree with you. we are over time. going to lots of stories that are breaking. i want to talk about another example of how the tectonic plates of the world economy are shifting. so many companies in america, apple, disney, exxon mobil, all of them putting out of pressure. tonight the oligarchs putting their money out of certain investments in the west and the names are being drawn. . . the west and the names are being drawn. . , , ., drawn. that is right. everyone will be 'udued drawn. that is right. everyone will be judged by _ drawn. that is right. everyone will be judged by which _ drawn. that is right. everyone will be judged by which say _ drawn. that is right. everyone will be judged by which say be - drawn. that is right. everyone will be judged by which say be picked. | drawn. that is right. everyone will i be judged by which say be picked. if bejudged by which say be picked. if you are with michelle you are shunned for life. and to your point about trying to have it both ways i think abramovich is trying to have it both ways in terms of still being able to come back to the club at some point and trying to put it in the foundation. let's see who the next owner is. when he sent it to someone who he thinks he can return to? there is no returning from this point in our history. with what vladimir putin is doing to ukraine.
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you're either on the side of ukraine and right and what is good or you are not in the price you will pay for not opposing that in a putting interview with pressure will dogged everyone for the rest of their lives and one last point quickly, with its sports teens businesses, real estate, all of that, that may putin used all those assets in the oligarchs turn on the money. and thatis oligarchs turn on the money. and that is what this is for years for vladimir putin. it's one big muffy operation that they have used the launder money and it's been through everything for decades.— everything for decades. companies would start sanctioning _ everything for decades. companies | would start sanctioning themselves because of course companies respond to public opinion and that's what's happening. let's focus on the southeastern ukraine for a second. you might�*ve seen the pictures of ukrainians blocking access road to the countries biggest nuclear power plant at the russian forces advanced on the area. on tuesday pressure told the agency it was in control of the area near the southern city. at
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the board of the iaea said it's been assured that ukrainian staff will be allowed to continue their normal operations by the director general to opinions conference earlier today the situation is very serious. fine the situation is very serious. one ofthe the situation is very serious. one of the unique _ the situation is very serious. iez of the unique features of this situation we are all seeing is that this is an ongoing military conflict taking place in a country that has a vast nuclear programme. 15 nuclear reactors, for a big nuclear parasite and all the facilities associated with it. , , ., with it. here is my friend and colleague- — with it. here is my friend and colleague. they _ with it. here is my friend and colleague. they were - with it. here is my friend and colleague. they were in i with it. here is my friend and i colleague. they were in charge of managing funds to help ukraine transform chernobyl into a safe and secure state. jonathan charles is a member of the executive committee
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of the european bank for reconstruction who were in charge of managing the funds to help ukraine overcome the chernobyl nuclear power station crisis and secure the site. it was painstakingly moved over that old sarcophagus of the building that houses the actor for that was involved in the meltdown. nice to have you on the programme. i know how much effort and money went into that process. is the bank worried at all that is being put at risk? it’s all that is being put at risk? it's something _ all that is being put at risk? it�*s something we are looking at a carefully as you can imagine this was about 2 billion euros being put into chernobyl in recent years mainly managed by them including putting that massive 36,000 on route and type of reactor four, in order to stop the radiation and we know how sensitive the sites are and we have been looking and talking to a lot of people who are at the south. we know russian troops have taken over the chernobyl site and we don't see any real increase in radiation there so they are clearly aware of there so they are clearly aware of the difficulties of managing that site the russian forces and it's
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something it's important to them. i suspect that ukrainians and international community but one thing we have noticed is that there is a rise in radiation in the area and that's because it is a lot of dustin and that's because it is a lot of dust in the roads around there and if you are running vehicles over there you are stirring up the dust. it's a long—term challenge. of course it is. and it's going to require decades of investment and care of the south and i wonder whether with all the sanctions that are being put in place and uncertain future if you control ukraine, whether the front that you control is going to be available to whoever is going to be available to whoever is managing the south. i is going to be available to whoever is managing the south.— is managing the south. i think in articular is managing the south. i think in particular one — is managing the south. i think in particular one of _ is managing the south. i think in particular one of the _ is managing the south. i think in particular one of the areas i is managing the south. i think in particular one of the areas that i is managing the south. i think in l particular one of the areas that we have been putting money in is if your facility and reactors one, two, and three they have been few and the idea reactors that did not exploit that needs careful care. we have been putting money into the field facilities so it could be stored carefully. we want to have a
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controlling that to really look after that and i have to say we have spoken to people at the site where it seems to be continuing this plan to make sure it's safe and that normal routine that keeps the site safe and making the big difficulty is in the long—term ensuring the russians or the ukrainians really keep to the task at hand because it could be very easy for some not to be done and for that to have an impact and having said that i'm sure the reasons the russian troops grasped that early on in this invasion and grasped chernobyl and to get over is because it's very important to them to keep it safe as well. the radiation could blow towards russia and it's very close towards russia and it's very close to the bed of the sport as well so this is something that worries the russians and they suspect will take great care to keep it safe. maybe more worrying are the other new parasites. brute more worrying are the other new arasites. ~ . ., ., , ., ., parasites. we have a map of that. there are four— parasites. we have a map of that. there are four other _ parasites. we have a map of that. there are four other sites. - parasites. we have a map of that. there are four other sites. 15 i there are four other sites. it};
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reactors. some of which have been involved in safety upgrades and making the difficulty with those reactors is he would not want fighting to be taking place around there because if i can best take place in clearly the danger of chatting for example damaging reactors would be real and again ukrainians are aware of that and the russians will know a lot about these reactors because they were built during soviet times and i suspect they would want to take equal care because as we all know in conflict accidents happen. that because as we all know in conflict accidents happen.— because as we all know in conflict accidents happen. that is the point. the intentions _ accidents happen. that is the point. the intentions may _ accidents happen. that is the point. the intentions may be _ accidents happen. that is the point. the intentions may be right - accidents happen. that is the point. the intentions may be right but i accidents happen. that is the point. l the intentions may be right but when you have forces fighting around these areas and people resisting a russian advance accidents do happen. ukraine is a sophisticated advanced industrial— ukraine is a sophisticated advanced industrial economy and that means fragile _ industrial economy and that means fragile in _ industrial economy and that means fragile in all sorts of ways and not 'ust fragile in all sorts of ways and not just the nuclear power stations but for example the supply of insulin
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'ust for example the supply of insulin just been— for example the supply of insulin just been reading about the desperate situation of diabetics in ukraine _ desperate situation of diabetics in ukraine who was it's raining out and lots of— ukraine who was it's raining out and lots of people who rely on regular supply— lots of people who rely on regular supply medicine. the whole question of other— supply medicine. the whole question of other sorts of infrastructure as well behaved and this we are now seeing _ well behaved and this we are now seeing what happens when an advanced industrial— seeing what happens when an advanced industrial society and that implies is fed _ industrial society and that implies is fed into — industrial society and that implies is fed into the machine in a fair that— is fed into the machine in a fair that they— is fed into the machine in a fair that they are at the beginning of an enormous — that they are at the beginning of an enormous humanitarian catastrophe and i enormous humanitarian catastrophe and i don't — enormous humanitarian catastrophe and i don't see how vladimir putin backs _ and i don't see how vladimir putin backs down — and i don't see how vladimir putin backs down from this. he's gone into a quagmire _ backs down from this. he's gone into a quagmire and he's on the option is to try— a quagmire and he's on the option is to try and _ a quagmire and he's on the option is to try and turn the cities into versions— to try and turn the cities into versions of aleppo. the syrian city that was _ versions of aleppo. the syrian city that was destroyed a few years ago via the _ that was destroyed a few years ago via the syrian regime with its russian _ via the syrian regime with its russian backers and that puts huge strain—
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russian backers and that puts huge strain on— russian backers and that puts huge strain on his troops because many of them _ strain on his troops because many of them have _ strain on his troops because many of them have no idea they were going to be engaged in this bloodbath and they all— be engaged in this bloodbath and they all thought it was an exercise they all thought it was an exercise they were — they all thought it was an exercise they were going to liberate people and this— they were going to liberate people and this was a danger of this question— and this was a danger of this question people are being disgusted by the _ question people are being disgusted by the butchers bill both inflicted and delivered to them and what happens — and delivered to them and what happens inside the kremlin as well people _ happens inside the kremlin as well people get fed up with that. the real story— people get fed up with that. the real story here is putin bitten off more _ real story here is putin bitten off more than — real story here is putin bitten off more than he could chew and... and robabl more than he could chew and... and probably does _ more than he could chew and... fific probably does not have more than he could chew and... e"ic probably does not have the more than he could chew and... el"ic probably does not have the money at the end of august to build the reconstruction. we are out of time. it's lovely to see you. bringing us up—to—date with what's happening at chernobyl. a week and a world ago ukraine was a free country as ourjames waterhouse correspondent in kyiv has put it — it's just 6 days since the putin launched his invasion of ukraine — changing the lives of its aa million citizens irrevocably.
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now many people who this time last week were taking their children to school on the way to work are now living in bombshelters and weighing up whether to flee this tweet from our kyiv correspondent james watehouse points out that 6 days ago putin said he wouldn't target cities or civilians — now officials say more than 2,000 civilians are dead —(biv and hundreds have been killed in mariupol in continuous shelling. a civil society network in ukraine has posted this picture of the country's second city kharkiv showing freedom square before and after the russian missile attack in kyiv citizens are being warned of the prospect of a siege but some people are trying to carry on as best they can. we can speak to the owner of the buena vista social bar, maxim leonov who's keeping his bar open the two have you with us. i can see part of the bar behind you. you are in there tonight. haifa part of the bar behind you. you are in there tonight.— in there tonight. how many people are with you? _ in there tonight. how many people are with you? i— in there tonight. how many people are with you? i think _ in there tonight. how many people are with you? i think there - in there tonight. how many people are with you? i think there are i in there tonight. how many people are with you? i think there are ten | are with you? i think there are ten people now. are with you? i think there are ten people now-— people now. how many would you normally have _ people now. how many would you normally have at this _ people now. how many would you normally have at this time - people now. how many would you normally have at this time of i people now. how many would you l normally have at this time of night? near 200. ., , .,
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normally have at this time of night? near 200. ., ., normally have at this time of night? near 200. .,, ., ., .., ., near 200. people who are coming to ou near 200. people who are coming to you through — near 200. people who are coming to you through the _ near 200. people who are coming to you through the day, _ near 200. people who are coming to you through the day, who _ near 200. people who are coming to you through the day, who are - near 200. people who are coming to you through the day, who are they? l you through the day, who are they? and what are you able to provide them with? are you serving drinks and food? the them with? are you serving drinks and food? , ., , ., them with? are you serving drinks and food? , .,, ., .., and food? the people who come in here are generalists, _ and food? the people who come in here are generalists, international| here are generalists, international journalists, and the neighbours and... ., ., ., ., , , and... the international generalists to elect a drink. _ and... the international generalists to elect a drink. are _ and... the international generalists to elect a drink. are you _ and... the international generalists to elect a drink. are you able i and... the international generalists to elect a drink. are you able to - to elect a drink. are you able to serve them alcohol?— serve them alcohol? alcohol is forbidden now _ serve them alcohol? alcohol is forbidden now because - serve them alcohol? alcohol is forbidden now because of - serve them alcohol? alcohol is l forbidden now because of curfew and alcohol is permitted to sell but of course i am setting alcohol because people are looking for something so i guess i sell alcohol. why have you decided to stay open
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because clearly the shutters have come down on so many businesses in the city. come down on so many businesses in the ci . u, come down on so many businesses in the ci . a, , ., come down on so many businesses in theci . ., ., ., the city. indicate you have to do something _ the city. indicate you have to do something in — the city. indicate you have to do something in this _ the city. indicate you have to do something in this situation. - the city. indicate you have to do something in this situation. the| something in this situation. the most harmful things that you can do and some people decided to go in for people to and some people decide to flee and some people think about what can they help so i decided to open because this is like certain people to provide people in keeping the morale up. we people to provide people in keeping the morale lip-— the morale up. we have got some ictures the morale up. we have got some pictures of— the morale up. we have got some pictures of the _ the morale up. we have got some pictures of the bar _ the morale up. we have got some pictures of the bar as _ the morale up. we have got some pictures of the bar as it _ the morale up. we have got some pictures of the bar as it was. - the morale up. we have got some pictures of the bar as it was. and | pictures of the bar as it was. and one of your romantic evenings. he has some of the pictures. it was
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very popular. i know you did go to join the defence voice in the east, are you still intending to fight if the russians come into the city? yes, i will fight because it's a simple thing. we don't have to choose fight or don't fight sol simple thing. we don't have to choose fight or don't fight so i am here because it's impossible now to go because too much well to join so ijust go because too much well to join so i just have to wait so go because too much well to join so ijust have to wait so i'm sitting here and waiting.— ijust have to wait so i'm sitting here and waiting. they are out of time. here and waiting. they are out of time- best _ here and waiting. they are out of time. best of _ here and waiting. they are out of time. best of luck— here and waiting. they are out of time. best of luck with _ here and waiting. they are out of time. best of luck with the - time. best of luck with the business you running there. stay safe. thank you running there. stay safe. thank you for being with us this evening. i'm sorry this got squeezed. he had
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so many breaking stories in the show this evening but it's been lovely hearing your thoughts and comments on the situation in ukraine. thank you for watching at home. same thing tomorrow. for many of us on wednesday the skies look grey and cloudy. the weather is damp and foggy as the weather front moves into bring weather is damp and foggy as the weatherfront moves into bring rain. he had some mist in pembrokeshire. it was a different story in northern scotland. the weather watcher probably thought the weather was hunky—dory here and certainly a lot of sunshine. looking at the weather charts at the moment we have got a way different to the last of the uk and this is the next one that's going to be pushing aims to bring more rain. but it will be a slow—moving east as a renting to this area of high pressure in scandinavia and it will cause the funds to grind to a halt over our heads. the next couple of days they
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will be some rain around as well. this is how we start thursday quite murky with mist and fog but also over the high ground across england and wales. pushing in across wales northwest england and gradually into the middle and central and southern england as you go through the day. some bright weather and it will brighten up for southwest england but pretty late for much of the day and it will be clearly. thursday night the weather front and eventually getting across scotland into parts of northeast england with some damp weather here but the skies clear and he could see frost with some icy patches into the first part of friday. there's definitely going to be split in the weather front is still there bringing outbreaks of rain turning heavy for a time where it will be cool and temperatures in newcastle reaching a high of six
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celsius and in western areas of scotland for a ireland in southwest england after a cold start creeping up england after a cold start creeping up between nine and ii celsius for most. the weather front guess some saturday weather front is still bringing outbreaks of rain to parts of eastern england and the rain will tend to move in mind as equal to the day set training damp request and it lands in central and southern england and east wales many parts of southwest england as well and the weather across scotland and northern ireland is well with some sunshine here with highs of nine but under the cloudy skies in the midlands just seven in birmingham and a cool day for the time of year. pressure continues to rise and the front continues to rise and the front continues to rise and the front continues to work out of the way. it should be someone breaks in the cloud. still a feed of cloud coming
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in from the north sea and affecting parts of england. temperatures around 8 or 9 degrees pretty widely may be in cardiff. we look at the later charts into next week and the area of high pressure slips across scandinavia and what happens is we develop eastern winds so they should be a fair amount of dry weather and sunshine but cold winds will develop as to because by. the forecast is good between now and tuesday. it should be some dry weather in the early stages of next week but from wednesday the forecast is not there at the moment sol wednesday the forecast is not there at the moment so i would not rely on the idea we will see rain and it could change and take another look at that same time tomorrow.
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tonight at ten. russia steps up its assault on ukraine. more cities around the country, come under attack. explosions. a cruise missile strike overnight, less than 90 miles west of the capital. the authorities say more than 2,000 civilians have died since russia's invasion, exactly one week ago. a russian tank shells an apartment block, while other targets are hit from the air. ukraine's president, says moscow is acting "beyond humanity. translation: they have an order - to raise our history, _
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