good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today... international condemnation of russia after the bombing of a maternity and children's hospital in the beseiged city of mariupol — ukraine's president zelensky describes it as a war crime. we have not done and would never do anything like this war crime in any of the cities of the donetsk or lugansk regions, or of any region, because we are people. high—level talks are to take place today between the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia — theirfirst since the invasion began. a direct plea from ukraine's

ambassador to the uk, as he begs the government to relax visa rules for people fleeing the war, most of them women and children. i totally hope they're not posing any any threat, especially terrorist threat to the uk. so that's why i hope and i beg that the procedures will be dropped and every bureaucratic red tape should be cancelled. millions of workers face being hundreds of pounds worse off unless the chancellor borrows billions more to help with the cost of living crisis. otherwise, fears households face the biggest financial hit in half a century. manchester city walk through to the quarter—finals of the champions league, but the real story of the night was in madrid. a 16—minute hat trick for karim benzema helps real madrid come from behind to knock paris saint—germain out. good morning. the rest of the week is lookin: good morning. the rest of the week is looking unsettled. _ good morning. the rest of the week is looking unsettled. there - good morning. the rest of the week is looking unsettled. there will- good morning. the rest of the week

is looking unsettled. there will be l is looking unsettled. there will be rain at times, windy at times but it will remain mild. next week it will be even milderfor some. all the details throughout this morning's programme. it's thursday, the 10th of march. our main story. ukraine's president has accused russia of a "war crime" after a maternity and children's hospital was bombed in the port city of mariupol. local officials say at least 17 people have been wounded. the explosion happened when a ceasefire was supposed to be in force in the area to allow civilians to leave. the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia are expected to meet later for their first face—to—face talks since the russian invasion began. james reynolds reports. ukraine calls this strike, which hit a maternity hospital in mariupol, a war crime. it buried patients underneath the rubble. for so many in this city, these buildings will have been the

site of their happiest ever days, where they and then their children were born. that life, though, is now gone. the city of mariupol is besieged by russian forces. it's without food, water, electricity or gas. if a hospital is hit, how can anywhere be safe? we have not done, and would never do, anything like this war crime anything like this war crime in any of the cities of the donetsk or lugansk regions, or of any region because we are people, but are you? the bombing of the maternity hospital is the final proof — proof that the genocide of ukrainians is taking place. europeans, you can't say that you didn't see what happened to ukrainians, what happened in mariupol with the people of mariupol. you saw, you know.

in irpin, north of the capital kyiv, residents make the slow walk to safety. ukrainians here fear a renewed russian assault. more than two million people have now fled their country, the fastest exodus in europe since the second world war. we want to establish the humanitarian corridors to allow people in and supplies for those ones who have stayed in besieged cities, you know, unfortunately in sort of medieval way. that's our priority number one, and we wanted to stop the war. we wanted to hear what they can come up with but we do not believe that there are some compromises can be given on our side. we've tried it for eight years to give all the compromises, and unfortunately it didn't work. they came with war against us and killing people as we speak. ukraine has put its points to russian negotiators in three rounds of talks — so far without breakthrough. now, the country's respective foreign ministers will meet in turkey, the highest level contact

since russia's invasion began. james reynolds, bbc news. let's speak now to our kyiv correspondent, james waterhouse. good to see you. lots to get through. let's start with the attack of the hospital in mariupol and worldwide condemnation of this. we have worldwide condemnation of this. - have no mariupol has been under siege for nine days. the pictures coming out of there had been limited. we had not quite knowing what has been facing that thousands of people trapped in the fighting. the last 2a hours has painted the grim reality. we have had images of pregnant women being stretchered out of a maternity and children's hospital. the claim by authorities is it was repeatedly struck by russian shells. moscow said it would

never deliberately target civilian areas in this way. nevertheless it is thought 17 people are known to have been injured so far. then the wider picture. reports of people melting snow to be able to drink and having to share food more and more as they ran out, and that figure, more than 1200 people are known to have died by the authorities in this nine day siege. very much a bleak picture coming out of mariupol, as it is the last major location between advancing russian troops as they try to create a land corridor with russian forces to the east of ukraine as well. mariupol stands in the middle of the defences are holding for now but the cost is becoming more and more plain to see. how has it been overnight and what have you seen? figs how has it been overnight and what have you seen?— how has it been overnight and what have you seen? as you talk, we had a coule of have you seen? as you talk, we had a couple of thirds _ have you seen? as you talk, we had a couple of thirds of _ have you seen? as you talk, we had a couple of thirds of shellfire, - have you seen? as you talk, we had a couple of thirds of shellfire, quite - couple of thirds of shellfire, quite a long way away to be honest with you. air raid sirens earlier this

morning. ukrainian military chiefs say the defences are continuing to hold. they have been saying the same thing for a bad day in a row now. the russian advance in the west and north—west of kyiv is being held. you only have to drive a few months to come across heavy fighting and shelling. they were evacuation routes across the country, including here yesterday. we saw some people arriving from essential station in a town called irpin. in neighbouring towns people were trapped trapped underground and in basements, unable to escape the fighting. it is thought more than 40,000 people were evacuated yesterday on a temporary ceasefire is. until then such attempts had failed that will be seen as a positive. in the north—eastern city of sumy, they were air strikes overnight. a30 new boy and two women died there.

fighting continued across the country. —— a year old. figs fighting continued across the country. -- a year old. as you mentioned — country. -- a year old. as you mentioned in _ country. -- a year old. as you mentioned in europe - country. -- a year old. as you mentioned in europe or- country. -- a year old. as you i mentioned in europe or earlier, country. -- a year old. as you - mentioned in europe or earlier, we had talks taking place between the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia. we understand they are taking place in turkey. are we hopeful about something positive coming out of this?— coming out of this? wording is everything _ coming out of this? wording is everything when _ coming out of this? wording is everything when you _ coming out of this? wording is everything when you have - everything when you have negotiations of this magnitude that if we look at what both sides have said going in, president zelensky has said he is softening on the idea ofjoining nato. what ukraine wants is for its borders to be restored, the humanitarian problem to be sorted out and for russia to withdraw. 0fficials involved in the negotiation say both sides could be softening, russia wants demilitarisation of the whole of ukraine. it says we just want that on the it in occupied territories. they also won crimea to be

recognised as part of russia. 0fficials recognised as part of russia. officials are claiming there could be some wiggle room will stop the foreign secretary has said he is not expecting much. of all the violence we have been talking about overnight with a severe drop in the ocean for the thousands of ukrainians who are experiencing or escaping the violence. you had that report from james reynolds earlier. he will be taking us through what has been happening overnight in the programme. in ukraine's biggest sea port, 0desa, residents are setting up barricades and sandbags amid fears it could be the next major target for russian forces. as volunteers prepare to defend the city, our correspondent lucy williamson has been speaking to evacuees who have left for the border. at a secret location near the southern city of odessa, they're getting ready to meet the russian army. testing recipes for molotov cocktails, and getting in some target practice.

two weeks ago, danilo was in his final year of a law degree. now he's making homemade bombs, with ukraine's civil defence force. working side—by—side with an electrician, a welder and an olympic athlete. "when did you learn how to make molotov cocktails? danilo has asked. "it seems it's an optional course for the fourth year of the degree," he quips. bogdan was in kyiv looking for work as a lawyer when the war began. my family said i had to come back home because they needed my help. ukrainians across the country have met the russian aggressors with these weapons. the team here have been making two crates a day. "we've got a lot better at it," bogdan says. it's like making soup. you need to do everything step by step. 0dessa has been watching russian ships off its coast for days. its beaches mined, its opera house barricaded, its women and children,

heading out. 30 miles away, the queue at moldova's palanca crossing renews itself day and night. this is the first safe port for people living in odessa. ukraine's third largest city has been braced for a russian assault for many days now. and having seen what's happened elsewhere, they know what to expect when it comes. angela has just arrived from 0dessa with one of her daughters and two grandchildren. her elder daughter is serving in the ukrainian army. "it's not peaceful," she said. "they destroyed the military barracks in our village. we lived for three days in the basement of our house because of the air raid sirens." behind them, 0dessa is a city in waiting, a city watching as its people leave, waiting for the russians to come. lucy williamson, bbc news, palanca crossing, moldova.

yesterday on breakfast, you may remember we spoke to luke morgan, a british man who described his desperate attempts to secure uk visas for his ukrainian wife's family, after they fled the country. his efforts took him from calais to brussels, and on to paris, with little success. however, in the past 24 hours, he's finally had some good news, as john maguire reports. for the past two weeks, like thousands of others, luke morgan has been trying to help his wife's family reached the uk after they fled the horrors of war in ukraine. turned back at calais, they were sent to a visa office in brussels and then paris. after travelling so far, luke left the six refugees in belgium while he pursued the applications in france. her dad's 67, her mum's 57. i met him outside the visa office in paris, where, at long last, there had been a breakthrough. it's just an overwhelming relief and a sense ofjustice, really.

you know, the last week has been torturous. we haven't known who to call, where to go, where to look. i'll say it's better when i've got them in my hand and i'm going through the border to get on the eurostar. hi,julia. hello. yeah, i'm going to get the passports. still sceptical after being stifled by red tape and reluctance. this was a rare piece of good news to be shared with his wife, julia, back in the uk. i'm going to get them in the next hour. bye. after what had once seemed impossible, progress was now rapid. luke was given the passports with visas and caught the first train to brussels. made it! julia's parents, her sister and two nephews would be allowed tojoin her in the uk. thoughts, of course, remain with those family

members left behind, facing imminent danger as the russian attacks intensify. can you translate? she want to... ..to help ukrainian people. luke's dad, david, has been looking after the family while his son has been fighting the system. i'm very proud of him, yeah, very proud. he's a strong man. i mean, just try and sum up the last couple of weeks. that's been hell, you know, just traumatic. yeah, just draining really. every day he's been going to the embassy and the visa... you know, and every day he's getting knocked back. and you know, today, thankfully, we had lots of help, lots of kind words from people at home. desperate to get home, luke and his in—laws set off for calais straight away, this time, sure of success. this is the story ofjust one

family, and they realise how fortunate they've been to have luke's desire and determination not to be thwarted and how fortunate they are to have escaped where many millions of others remain trapped and in danger. john maguire, bbc news, brussels. ukraine's ambassador to the uk has strongly criticised the visa scheme for people fleeing the invasion. ministers say measures are needed to check the identity of those arriving, but vadym prystaiko says the government should drop what he called "bureaucratic red tape." i hope and i beg that the procedures will be dropped and every bureaucratic red tape should be cancelled. we will deal with later with any issues. sometimes its documents, but there is embassy here for you to help with the documents. some people couldn't even get their passports because they are fleeing under bombardment. let's get more now from our chief political correspondent, adam fleming.

there is a lot of pressure right now. thought of changed relaxation. is anything happening?— now. thought of changed relaxation. is anything happening? former prime minister david _ is anything happening? former prime minister david cameron _ is anything happening? former prime minister david cameron has _ is anything happening? former prime minister david cameron has waded i minister david cameron has waded into this telling a radio programme last night he thought ministers were behind the public mood on this and the british public were being much more generous spirited than the government has been so far. there was speculation and will be an extension of the scheme today potentially alarming ukrainians here in the uk already on temporary visas perhaps as seasonal agricultural workers to be able to bring their family members overfrom ukraine. up till now it has only been british people ukrainian residence resident in britain full—time who have been able to do that. that will mark another extension of the scheme from when it was initially started when it was only very close immediate family members who could come over, and now it has been extended to

include aunts, uncles and in—laws as well. speculation that ukrainians who have been on a visit to the uk in the last few years might not have to go through the same bureaucracy as people who have not been here before. in other words, are some of the details like fingerprints still being held on file? that is that route. there is also the secondary which is where people in the uk, individuals or organisations can sponsor somebody coming from the uk. we have been —— from the ukraine. that is people coming in this direction. what is coming in the other direction from uk to ukraine is more military kit and it is becoming more lethal. it started off being things like flakjackets and helmets and then it was anti—tank missiles. now the government is

looking at anti—aircraft missiles. i suppose if you are the ukraine government and you want a no—fly zone and the western governments say no way, maybe this is the next best thing. the un estimates that more than two million refugees have fled ukraine since the russian invasion began — with more than half of those crossing into poland. 0ur correspondent danjohnson is in the southern polish city of krakow. it looks very busy behind you at this railway station, unsurprisingly say. this railway station, unsurprisingly sa . , , this railway station, unsurprisingly sa. ,, �*, ., ., say. this is krakow's main railway station, say. this is krakow's main railway station. the _ say. this is krakow's main railway station, the nearest _ say. this is krakow's main railway station, the nearest major - say. this is krakow's main railway station, the nearest major city . say. this is krakow's main railway station, the nearest major city to | station, the nearest major city to the border. we are here three hours from the ukrainian border. it gives a sense of how busy things are even away from the border, deeper into poland. the polish authorities said last night more than 1.3 million

ukrainians have come over the border into poland now and this is one of the major staging posts where they are being received and processed and handed on. you can see people queueing up forfood handed on. you can see people queueing up for food this handed on. you can see people queueing up forfood this morning, for drinks. there is loads of stuff on offerfor people, a huge effort has been put in place by an enormous number of voluntary groups that have sprung into action. even though we are two weeks into the crisis, there is really the same sort of sense here this morning we have had every day for the last two weeks. there are people sleeping on the station floor, people with children, with pets, people being given close, being given blankets, charging their phones here, being given seven cards so they can make contact with people. —— sim cards. it is an

extraordinary effort from the polish government and voluntary groups, who have been calling for more support from government agencies and other european countries as well. poland really has ta ken european countries as well. poland really has taken the burden of the refugee effort. although 1.3 million ukrainians have come into poland, they are not necessarily staying here. many have moved on and are looking for ways to get to family members in other european countries, including the uk. it is a difficult situation for people here not knowing where they are going. it is an impressive effort and a sense that these people have been through something really traumatic, really devastating. you can feel sadness and despair. devastating. you can feel sadness and desoair-_ devastating. you can feel sadness and despair. now the weather with carol.

good morning. if you are stepping out anyone in western scotland and northern ireland it is a cold start to the day. there is frost mist and fog and coastal mist around east anglia and south—west england. for the rest of the week we are looking at unsettled conditions, breezy or windy with rain at times. mild. that would be the theme for the next few days. today is quite messy, there is a lot of cloud around. showers in the south—west, northern ireland and north—west scotland. there will be breaks in the cloud. also into the far south—east of england with temperatures eight to 15 degrees. 0nce temperatures eight to 15 degrees. once again it would be a breezy day. this evening and overnight but we will have further showers coming out from the channel islands moving steadily northwards and becoming more widespread. fairly patchy. the next weather front is waiting in the wings and that will strengthen in

the south—west. milder across north—west scotland, northern ireland banned last night. tomorrow we start off still with a fair bit of cloud and showers. i want to joy your attention to this set of fronts coming up from the south—west. they are going to have heavy rain around them and will be followed by heavy showers, possibly with hail and thunder and strong winds as well, especially in the south—west. it will be gusty wherever you are but mild. temperatures tend to 13, maybe 14 degrees. —— ten. people on an average wage will be £800 worse off next year — unless the chancellor borrows more to help households with the cost of living crisis. that number crunching has been done by independent experts at the institute for fiscal studies. they're warning that households face a lot more pain — ben's looking at this for us.

the iss has been putting together some pretty worrying numbers. that is a stark figure. _ some pretty worrying numbers. hat is a stark figure. £800 worse off for workers on an average wage. even worse in the public sector. £1700 worse in the public sector. £1700 worse off in the public sector unless the chancellor offers help to cushion the cost of living crisis. good morning. gas and electricity bills, petrol costs, the prices we pay in the shops. inflation — the cost of living — is going up and russia's invasion of ukraine is going to make things worse. 0rfhlaith is one of the many people already suffering. it isjust it is just an avalanche of stuff, 'ust it is just an avalanche of stuff, just unbelievable. my gas and electric— just unbelievable. my gas and electric of approximately £3000 a year now— electric of approximately £3000 a year now before the 54%. as a solo parent _ year now before the 54%. as a solo parent with — year now before the 54%. as a solo parent with one child, just the two of us, _ parent with one child, just the two of us, how— parent with one child, just the two of us, how in gods name when i be able to afford it? £3000 is already

a stretch. it beggars belief howl could _ a stretch. it beggars belief howl could potentially afford plus 54% on that. could potentially afford plus 54% on that i_ could potentially afford plus 54% on that. i don't have any family whatsoever. if i don't have the money, — whatsoever. if i don't have the money, the bills don't get paid and that is_ money, the bills don't get paid and that is the — money, the bills don't get paid and that is the end of it. 100% me. i'm not entitled — that is the end of it. 100% me. i'm not entitled to many benefits, i do not entitled to many benefits, i do not get _ not entitled to many benefits, i do not get any benefits of any description whatsoever. it is extremely hard. my priorities are hills, _ extremely hard. my priorities are hills, hills, — extremely hard. my priorities are bills, bills, bills, pay the bills. after— bills, bills, bills, pay the bills. afterthat— bills, bills, bills, pay the bills. after that i cannot really afford to pay all _ after that i cannot really afford to pay all the bills i have got and that is— pay all the bills i have got and that is where i am at with it. today a group of trusted, independent experts — the institute for fiscal studies, has set out the stark choice facing the chancellor if he is to help people like 0rfhlaith. either borrow billions of pounds 0r force households to face the biggest financial hit since the 19705. that's half a century ago. the problem is inflation will wipe out at least a quarter of the public

sector spending the government announced back in october. for nurses, teachers and other public sector workers: that means they're facing a pay cut of more than £1700 unless the chancellor spends 10 billion to fund pay rises that keep up with the cost of living. then there are soaring energy bills. the government pledged 9 billion to help. but given the way things are going that won't deliver the same level of protection. if the government wants to protect us in the same way they're going to need to find another 12.5 billion. every average earner is now expected to be £800 worse off. the real worry i think for the chancellor is when we had coronavirus he had no choice, he had no choice _ coronavirus he had no choice, he had no choice other than to spend huge amounts _ no choice other than to spend huge amounts of— no choice other than to spend huge amounts of money. this is a really bil amounts of money. this is a really big decision — amounts of money. this is a really big decision moment for him. is he going _ big decision moment for him. is he going to _ big decision moment for him. is he going to bail out households and .ive going to bail out households and give more — going to bail out households and give more money to public sector workers _ give more money to public sector workers and burrow a great deal more

or is he _ workers and burrow a great deal more or is he going — workers and burrow a great deal more or is he going to keep a tight rein on borrowing and say, tough. some people _ on borrowing and say, tough. some people wiii— on borrowing and say, tough. some people will be made worse off by this _ people will be made worse off by this that— people will be made worse off by this. that will tell us a lot more about— this. that will tell us a lot more about what sort of chancellor and what _ about what sort of chancellor and what sort — about what sort of chancellor and what sort of government we have really _ what sort of government we have really got — what sort of government we have really got. i don't know which way he really got. idon't know which way he will— really got. i don't know which way he will go — really got. i don't know which way he will go on this. the politics realty— he will go on this. the politics really i — he will go on this. the politics really .1 way and the economics the other~ _ the chancellor has his spring economic statement in less than a couple of weeks' time. it was supposed to be a pretty boring affair but now there are some decisions to be made. the government told us it doesn't speculate ahead of fiscal events like that but that it was already providing support and would continue to monitor the economic impact. we'll speak to labour to ask what they would do — that's at just after 8:30am this morning. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

good morning from bbc london, i'm victoria hollins. a london charity has accused the government of treating immigrant women who escape domestic abuse, as second class citizens. immigrants who are not married to british citizens are subject to the no recourse to public funds rule, which states they cannot access most forms of welfare benefits and social housing. the charity, southall black sisters, wants to see that change it's this level of racism and sexism. you know, it's this anti—immigrant, hostile agenda which is really feeding the second class provision for migrant women. well, in a statement the home office said it is committed to supporting all victims of domestic abuse, regardless of their immigration status, and that it had worked closely with southall black sisters. nearly half a million pounds will be made available to increase covid vaccination take—up in luton. only 40% of its population have had their booster, and three in ten are yet to receive their firstjab.

the council says that those under 25 years old are less likely to have been vaccinated, along with those in some south asian and eastern european communities. converting some of central london's empty offices and shops into homes could help the capital recover from covid, but it should be done carefully. that's according to the centre for london think—tank, which says that so—called permitted development could create affordable homes in central london. but it warned that they could be poor quality and lead to social tension. a giant puppet of a nine—year—old refugee girl will lay flowers outside the ukrainian embassy later today, in a show of support. the puppet is called little amal, and she's been designed to highlight the plight of child refugees. last year, she travelled 5,000 miles across eight countries well, if you're heading out on public transport this morning, this is how tfl services are looking right now. 0nto the weather now, with kate kinsella. good morning.

it's another reasonably mild start this morning. temperatures mid to high single figures first thing. this front brings a little more cloud to us today. with that, one or two spots of rain potentially first thing this morning. it's largely dry throughout, but bright in the east. a bit of sunshine there. for the west, that cloud is going to thicken towards the end of the afternoon. the wind strengthens today as well. temperatures reaching 14 celsius. as we head through the night we still have a fair amount of cloud. spots of light rain, spots of drizzle. the minimum temperature still very mild, between seven and nine celsius. that wind will continue to strengthen. for friday, another cold front makes more progress east, bringing outbreaks of rain through tomorrow. some could be quite heavy, especially as we head through the afternoon, after a dry and bright start. we could also hear, later on in the day, a rumble or two of thunder, as showers follow. temperatures tomorrow getting up to 12 celsius. 0r as we head into the weekend, it's looking like a drier day for saturday, with some

spells of sunshine. more rain for sunday and a dry day once again for monday. midweek next week, temperatures are set to get warmer. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. good morning, you're watching breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. good morning. let's get up to date with everything that has been happening overnight in ukraine. james reynolds is here to run through the details. as you have been doing throughout the week, james. there have been developments with this attack on this hospital, this maternity hospital? this hospital, this maternity hosital? , , . this hospital, this maternity hosital? ,, ., ., hospital? russia have said the attack is fake _ hospital? russia have said the attack is fake news, _ hospital? russia have said the i attack is fake news, essentially. let's _ attack is fake news, essentially. let's look — attack is fake news, essentially. let's look at the map of ukraine. red is where russia has control of ukrainian territory. striped red is where it's making advances.

in the south its aim is to link up its forces along the coast. the city of mariupol has been besieged. the city's maternity and children's hospital was hit in a strike. ukraine calls it a war crime. the city itself is going through this _ the city itself is going through this it — the city itself is going through this. it has been caught off. —— cut off. they have no running water or electricity or gas. all attempts to evacuate its residents to safety have failed. but two million people across the country have managed to flee west into the rest of europe. more than a million have ended up in poland. they are now seeking safety. that's where the us vice president kamala harris has gone for a round of talks with polish leaders. poland's offered the us fighterjets for use in the war against russia. but the us is wary of getting drawn

into a direct fight with russia. russia itself will later today hold direct talks with ukraine. the two countries' foreign ministers will meet in southern turkey, the highest level contact since the invasion began. there is a picture ofi of their delegations arriving. 0ne item on the agenda might be nuclear security. ukraine says that the former nuclear plant of chernobyl — you might know this was the site of a major accident in 1986 — has lost its power supply following the site's seizure by russian forces. that's how things look this morning. thank you. let's pick up the last oint thank you. let's pick up the last point james _ thank you. let's pick up the last point james was _ thank you. let's pick up the last point james was referring - thank you. let's pick up the last point james was referring to. i we can speak now to professor claire corkhill, who's an expert in nuclear materials at the university of sheffield. chernobyl, in noble events... we

will get under the concerns in a moment. ~ . , will get under the concerns in a moment. ~ ., , ., , , moment. what is happening there? normall , moment. what is happening there? normally. it — moment. what is happening there? normally. it is _ moment. what is happening there? normally, it is a _ moment. what is happening there? normally, it is a usual— moment. what is happening there? normally, it is a usual day - moment. what is happening there? normally, it is a usual day in - normally, it is a usual day in chernobyl, nothing is really happening. the material, the radioactive material from the accident _ radioactive material from the accident is deep in the basement of reactor— accident is deep in the basement of reactor number four. difficult to .et reactor number four. difficult to get too — reactor number four. difficult to get too because it is highly radioactive. they are trying to slowly — radioactive. they are trying to slowly deconstruct that reactor. 30 slowly deconstruct that reactor. so it is slowly deconstruct that reactor. it is cooling. slowly deconstruct that reactor. so it is cooling. exactly. _ slowly deconstruct that reactor. so it is cooling. exactly. it _ slowly deconstruct that reactor. so it is cooling. exactly. it is - slowly deconstruct that reactor. so it is cooling. exactly. it is in - it is cooling. exactly. it is in what we _ it is cooling. exactly. it is in what we call _ it is cooling. exactly. it is in what we call a _ it is cooling. exactly. it is in what we call a passive - it is cooling. exactly. it is in| what we call a passive state. it is cooling. exactly. it is in i what we call a passive state. it is not really — what we call a passive state. it is not really hazardous. there is not going _ not really hazardous. there is not going to — not really hazardous. there is not going to he — not really hazardous. there is not going to be an explosion. but the material— going to be an explosion. but the material is — going to be an explosion. but the material is radioactive, which is why we — material is radioactive, which is why we are _ material is radioactive, which is why we are trying to clear it up. in why we are trying to clear it up. normal times why we are trying to clear it up. l�*i normal times you would be why we are trying to clear it up. l�*u normal times you would be worried if this calling system wasn't functioning?— this calling system wasn't functioning? this calling system wasn't functionin: ? , ., functioning? the used fuelfrom reactors one _ functioning? the used fuelfrom reactors one and _ functioning? the used fuelfrom reactors one and three - functioning? the used fuelfrom reactors one and three has i functioning? the used fuelfromj reactors one and three has been called _ reactors one and three has been called in — reactors one and three has been called in a — reactors one and three has been called in a pond. that pond takes away— called in a pond. that pond takes away the — called in a pond. that pond takes away the heat and it stops the fuel from overheating and melting down. that fuel— from overheating and melting down. that fuel is — from overheating and melting down. that fuel is really old. so really

we are — that fuel is really old. so really we are not— that fuel is really old. so really we are not massively worried about the effect _ we are not massively worried about the effect of the electricity has 'ust the effect of the electricity has just been cut because that fuel doesn't — just been cut because that fuel doesn't need cooling any more. it is perhaps— doesn't need cooling any more. it is perhaps not— doesn't need cooling any more. it is perhaps not quite as hazardous. so perhaps not quite as hazardous. s: how perhaps not quite as hazardous. how long can perhaps not quite as hazardous. sr how long can it perhaps not quite as hazardous. 5r how long can it remain safe, not a problem, without electricity? the ool is problem, without electricity? the pool is quite _ problem, without electricity? the pool is quite deep and the fuel is not a _ pool is quite deep and the fuel is not a very— pool is quite deep and the fuel is not a very hot. it could take something like a month for the water to evaporate. provided you can replenish— to evaporate. provided you can replenish that water, either from the normal water supply or the river, _ the normal water supply or the river, they— the normal water supply or the river, they shouldn't be a problem at chernobyl. river, they shouldn't be a problem at chernobyl-— river, they shouldn't be a problem at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands, at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands. how _ at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands, how can _ at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands, how can we _ at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands, how can we know - at chernobyl. given the situation as it stands, how can we know what i at chernobyl. given the situation as. it stands, how can we know what has happened there? that it stands, how can we know what has happened there?— happened there? that is more of a concern. happened there? that is more of a concern- we _ happened there? that is more of a concern. we have _ happened there? that is more of a concern. we have lost _ happened there? that is more of a concern. we have lost the - happened there? that is more of a i concern. we have lost the monitoring data from _ concern. we have lost the monitoring data from the chernobyl site. the electricity— data from the chernobyl site. the electricity powering those detectors and other— electricity powering those detectors and other radiation monitors, they have _ and other radiation monitors, they have been— and other radiation monitors, they have been switched off. we can't understand what that material is doing _ understand what that material is doing. from a nuclear security and

safeguards— doing. from a nuclear security and safeguards perspective, that is really — safeguards perspective, that is really important. we don't know what that material is doing. what really important. we don't know what that material is doing.— that material is doing. what people will be concerned _ that material is doing. what people will be concerned about _ that material is doing. what people will be concerned about is - that material is doing. what people will be concerned about is what i will be concerned about is what happened at fukushima. we are obviously reporting this but we are trying to make sure that people know there is no reason for concern, but people will remember fukushima. what are the comparisons and why is this different? last are the comparisons and why is this different? �* ., _ , different? at the chernobyl site there is no _ different? at the chernobyl site there is no hazard _ different? at the chernobyl site there is no hazard of— different? at the chernobyl sitej there is no hazard of something happening like at fukushima. categorically, that will not happen at the _ categorically, that will not happen at the chernobyl site. what we are worried _ at the chernobyl site. what we are worried about at the operating nuclear— worried about at the operating nuclear power stations in the rest of the _ nuclear power stations in the rest of the country. if these were to come _ of the country. if these were to come under attack, like they did last week— come under attack, like they did last week in one region, and lose their— last week in one region, and lose their electricity supply and the generators become damaged in some way, we _ generators become damaged in some way, we lose the ability to cool that fuel — way, we lose the ability to cool that fuel inside of the reactor and it could _ that fuel inside of the reactor and it could melt down. if that were to happen, _ it could melt down. if that were to happen, it — it could melt down. if that were to happen, it would be precisely like what _ happen, it would be precisely like what happened in the fukushima accident. — what happened in the fukushima accident, where there were a series of explosions and radioactivity was

spread _ of explosions and radioactivity was spread about 60 kilometres. how are all these plants. _ spread about 60 kilometres. how are all these plants, how— spread about 60 kilometres. how are all these plants, how do _ spread about 60 kilometres. how are all these plants, how do they - spread about 60 kilometres. how are all these plants, how do they report i all these plants, how do they report their levels? where do they report them? , ,., ., them? they report them to the ukraine state _ them? they report them to the ukraine state nuclear - them? they report them to the | ukraine state nuclear regulator, them? they report them to the i ukraine state nuclear regulator, who reported _ ukraine state nuclear regulator, who reported to _ ukraine state nuclear regulator, who reported to the ieee usa. regulator is still— reported to the ieee usa. regulator is still working as best can. if «sing.r is still working as best can. if any of these nuclear _ is still working as best can. if any of these nuclear plants _ is still working as best can. if any of these nuclear plants fall i is still working as best can. if any of these nuclear plants fall under| of these nuclear plants fall under the control of russian forces, we know that is already happening, are they under any obligation that it sounds totally absurd in a war zone, but are they under obligation to pass on information about the nucleoside and what is happening? yes, precisely. russia is one of the nuclear— yes, precisely. russia is one of the nuclear states that is a member of the international atomic energy agency — the international atomic energy agency. they should be talking regularly with that agency to pass on information about material. probably — on information about material. probably that is not happening because — probably that is not happening because the russian troops who are in control— because the russian troops who are in control of— because the russian troops who are in control of the plants are not nuclear— in control of the plants are not nuclear operators. so at the moment, the only— nuclear operators. so at the moment, the only nuclear operators are the

ukrainian — the only nuclear operators are the ukrainian ones who are still there. there _ ukrainian ones who are still there. there is— ukrainian ones who are still there. there is nobody from russia other than the _ there is nobody from russia other than the soldiers in those facilities.— than the soldiers in those facilities. ., ., , ., ., than the soldiers in those facilities. ., ., ., facilities. can i ask you one of those questions _ facilities. can i ask you one of those questions quite - facilities. can i ask you one of those questions quite a i facilities. can i ask you one of those questions quite a few. facilities. can i ask you one of- those questions quite a few people ask themselves? you may have answered this a few times already. we saw the pictures a moment ago of the strike last week and we know we didn't hit directly. in the event of an inadvertent hit on a site like that, but would be the outcome? people worry about the reactor itself _ people worry about the reactor itself being hit. the thing to say there _ itself being hit. the thing to say there is— itself being hit. the thing to say there is they are very robust buildings. they have got big structural integrity. so they should be able _ structural integrity. so they should be able to — structural integrity. so they should be able to withstand a direct hit. what _ be able to withstand a direct hit. what is — be able to withstand a direct hit. what is more concerning is the electricity— what is more concerning is the electricity supply to cool the fuel, to stop _ electricity supply to cool the fuel, to stop it— electricity supply to cool the fuel, to stop it from having a meltdown. obviously — to stop it from having a meltdown. obviously since chernobyl, and even sense fukushima, safety standards have been ramped up because there is this fear around even the word nuclear? ~ , ,., , ., ,

nuclear? absolutely. people here radioactivity _ nuclear? absolutely. people here radioactivity and _ nuclear? absolutely. people here radioactivity and they _ nuclear? absolutely. people here radioactivity and they are - nuclear? absolutely. people here radioactivity and they are afraid. i radioactivity and they are afraid. it is radioactivity and they are afraid. it is the — radioactivity and they are afraid. it is the safest way of generating electricity. it seems funny to say that now — electricity. it seems funny to say that now when we are in a war zone with nuclear— that now when we are in a war zone with nuclear power stations. but generally— with nuclear power stations. but generally speaking, accidents are extremely rare. i would be generally speaking, accidents are extremely rare. iwould be more concerned — extremely rare. iwould be more concerned of the health effects. for e>

average for march, which is roughly eight to ten north to south. this morning it is a mild start for many. not all, we have got some frost across parts of scotland and northern ireland. here too there is some fog to watch out for. quite a bit of cloud as well. nonetheless, a bright start as you can see here from this picture. temperature —wise this is what you can expect if you are stepping out. 10 degrees currently in manchester. what is happening today is we have got these weather front which is happening today is we have got these weatherfront which is being effectively blocked by this large area of high pressure in europe. it is bringing rain in it but nothing particularly heavy. quite a lot of cloud associated with it. the wind direction is changed to a southerly. a cloudy start. some showers in the south—east, wales, showers and drizzle in northern ireland and showers in scotland. through the day we will see the cloud break in parts. northern ireland will see some sunshine. east anglia and the

south—east also seeing some sunshine. a wee bit of coastal most here as there is along the south west coast path stopped temperature is eight to 15 degrees. 15 above the average. it is a breezy day. if anything, tonight it will be breezy with the wind picking up in the south—west. we have some showers coming from the channel islands pushing northwards through the course of the night. then you can see our next system from the south—west bringing in some rain that big letter. not a cold night. and not as cold across north—west scotland and also northern ireland is this morning. so, as we head on through thursday night into friday, here is that weather front coming in. it will have some heavy rain. if you look at those isomers, they are squeezed. it is going to be a windy day. particularly this weather front in the south and easily. they will be a lot of cloud to start the day. still some showers. some breaks in the cloud. rain will be could

continue to push northeast. you will see some showers behind it. some could be heavy and voluntary with some help. these are the wind gust as we head into the middle of the afternoon. wherever you are, you will notice that. temperature wise, perhaps down slightly tomorrow but still above average. we are looking at eight to 13 degrees north to south. as we head on into the weekend, things turn a little bit unsettled. you will see we have got an array a weather front, and at the very of low pressure coming our way. that will introduce rain and showers. at times too it would be windy. if we look at that in a wee bit more detail, on saturday we will have some rain and showers pushing through. it is not going to be a write—off. still some dry weather. some of us are seeing some sunshine. then on sunday, that is when we have got some heavier rain crossing us and it is going to turn that bit windier. even so, some of us will also see a little bit of sunshine.

and temperatures are still above average of the year. carol, thank you. 90 minutes to seven. an update on the sport. change of the morning. an exciting manchester evening? it was an epic champions league match. iloathed manchester evening? it was an epic champions league match. what makes it so aood? champions league match. what makes it so good? paris— champions league match. what makes it so good? paris saint-germain - champions league match. what makes it so good? paris saint-germain have i it so good? paris saint-germain have not some it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of— it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of the _ it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of the best _ it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of the best players - it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of the best players of i it so good? paris saint-germain have got some of the best players of the i got some of the best players of the world, including the a little messy. they were 2—0 up on aggregate. —— lionel messi. they were leading 2—0. and real madrid stunned them with three goals in 17 minutes. it was karen pence who scored a hat—trick and put paris saint—germain out of the champions league. and put paris saint-germain out of the champions league.— and put paris saint-germain out of the champions league. stunning. an eic niuht. the champions league. stunning. an epic night- i — the champions league. stunning. an epic night- i am _ the champions league. stunning. an epic night. i am loving _ the champions league. stunning. an epic night. i am loving the _ the champions league. stunning. an epic night. i am loving the faces i epic night. i am loving the faces you are pulling! l epic night. i am loving the faces you are pulling!— epic night. i am loving the faces you are pulling! i almost watched the cricket last _ you are pulling! i almost watched the cricket last night. _ you are pulling! i almost watched the cricket last night. so - you are pulling! i almost watched the cricket last night. so glad i i the cricket last night. so glad i didn't. there was a dramatic fightback at the bernabeu as real madrid came from behind to beat paris saint—germain and go

through to the champions league quarter—finals. it looked as if psg were well on their way to advancing as kylian mbappe's goal put them 2—0 up on aggregate. but the game turned on its head in the second half, karim benzema's 16—minute hat—trick gave real madrid a 3—1win on the night, and a 3—2 victory on aggregate. manchester city are also through to the quarter—finals, they played out a goalless draw against sporting lisbon to win 5—0 on aggregate. gabrieljesus coming closest to scoring on the night, his effort ruled out for offside after a var check. the west indies had the better of the second day of the first test against england in antigua. despitejonny bairstow�*s century, england could only post 311 in theirfirst innings. the hosts are 202 for four in reply. our sports correspondent joe wilson reports. the cricket ground is definitely this way. the outskirts, rural antigua. and many had other commitments,

so fast bowlerjayden seales took his wickets for the west indies in front of a uk crowd. it did rain, intermittently. jonny bairstow had made 140 when he finally offered this chance to jason holder, six feet seven at full extension. 311 all out. so, england's turn to bowl and every woman, man and creature on the planet knows what that means. stuart broad and james anderson. well, not now, not here. england opened the bowling with woakes and overton, and the batters enjoyed them. sojohn campbell could barely believe his dismissal. well, 83 for one, and england — and overton — had something. mark wood and ben stokes added energy, and when the third wicket fell, england were finally warming up. but they soon met jason holder, the batter. he's a genial man, who loves to defy england. west indies will resume 109 behind, and maybe holder with the balance

of the match in his hands. joe wilson, bbc news, antigua. the controversy continues with former tennis world number one novak djokovic, who's confirmed he won't be allowed to play at the indian wells tournament, which starts today. the 20—time grand slam winner admitted recently that he's not vaccinated against covid—19. djokovic tweeted last night that — as regulations in the united states weren't changing — he would be unable to travel there. he's also pulled out of the forthcoming miami open. we are just days away from the start of the formula one season, with the first race in bahrain next weekend. second testing begins today, and british driver lando norris, who drives for british team mclaren, has been speaking to natalie pirks about the controversial ending last season, and not going to russia. it feels good to be back. so tell us, just how excited are you for this new season? i'm very, very excited.

i think almost more excited than i was in my first season of formula one, mainly because i'm a lot more confident. obviously, the season ended in the most spectacular way. what were your feelings around what happened in abu dhabi? i'm good friends with both of them. i'm pretty — i'm more, in terms of friends, i'm better friends with max. but, of course, there is a guy i've looked up to since i was, you know, watching mclaren back in 2007, and we talk every now and then. so like, i respect both of them so much. of course, what happened is controversial. everyone knows that, and how it went down and stuff. but i guess the real point of it all is, people make mistakes. i guess you never want to see someone who deserves to win a championship, or should win a championship, lose it through a change which is unexpected and shouldn't kind of happen. so, as long as it's fair — i think that's all we want is fairness.

we want consistency as drivers and as teams. of course, we won't be going to russia. how important was it for formula one to make that decision quite quickly? i think hugely important for everyone in formula one. i mean, it's so sad to see what's going on, and the last thing we would want to do is go there and feel like there's nothing going on, right? so... you have fans all over the world. i guess a good thing about what a lot of people like about me is the fact i'm kind of more relatable, normal. i was the first f1 driver to do the streaming on twitch. thank you! my family are always there and have been since day one, to support me and look out for me. and my mum, she'sjust a great mum. she's scared of the dangers with doing formula one and motorsports, but she's also the most supportive. what's the ultimate ambition for you in your career? it's to win a world championship as a driver. i'd say almostjust as importantly for me as to win a championship as a team.

my biggest motivation is making the team happy. so there you go. itjust shows that your mother always worries about you, no matter how old you are. that is so true- — you, no matter how old you are. that is so true. wise _ you, no matter how old you are. that is so true. wise words _ you, no matter how old you are. that is so true. wise words this _ you, no matter how old you are. that is so true. wise words this morning. | is so true. wise words this morning. i'm is so true. wise words this morning. i'm exoecting _ is so true. wise words this morning. i'm expecting more _ is so true. wise words this morning. i'm expecting more every _ is so true. wise words this morning. i'm expecting more every time. i i'm expecting more every time. come to me for whatever advice you need. here is somebody else who people listen to a lot, maybe would consider a wise head, don't you think, dolly parton? l consider a wise head, don't you think, dolly parton?_ think, dolly parton? iwouldn't arrue think, dolly parton? iwouldn't argue with _ think, dolly parton? iwouldn't argue with that. _ think, dolly parton? iwouldn't argue with that. i _ think, dolly parton? iwouldn't argue with that. i would - think, dolly parton? iwouldn't argue with that. i would argue| think, dolly parton? i wouldn't i argue with that. i would argue -- i argue with that. i would argue —— i would listen to everything she says. dolly parton doesn't really need an introduction, does she? the queen of country has sold more than 100 million records worldwide, and as a literacy campaigner, has given away millions of books to children. now she's teamed up with the authorjames patterson to write her first novel. our arts correspondent, rebecca jones, has been talking to them in their first uk interview. now, how many of you go so far back

that you'd remember a song of mine called jolene? crowd cheers. dolly parton, wowing the crowd at glastonbury. singer, songwriter, actress, businesswoman — and now, alongside james patterson, finally, a novelist. # please, don't take my man.# well, i've donejust about everything else, i've never written a novel. i had always thought that when i was older, older, that i might write a novel when i had a chance to, you know, to calm down and just do that to see. but god does work in mysterious ways. and he sent me, jim. dolly is a storyteller. every one of her songs, it's a story. jolene — they're all stories. tell me about your writing routine? i still write longhand. i've got these big legal yellow pads and i just write, just scribble it out with my sharpie pen so i can read it now. i used to write with a pen, now i have to write bigger because i'm older. cbeebies bedtime story. mud, mud, glorious mud — you know, that song, don't you? hey, i'm dolly, and i have...

but while dolly parton may be new to novel writing, she's long been passionate about books for children. cat heard the hand. "hold on, wait for me is purr—fectly easy. "i'll soon pull you free." and she's given away millions of books to the under fives, inspired by her own childhood. i grew up in a very large family, and grew up way back in the backwoods, where a lot of people were not able to go to school. but, for me, what was so personal is the fact that my own daddy couldn't read and write, and so he was kind of crippled by that. and so, ijust felt like that i needed to do something to bring him out of that, to let him know that there are millions of people in this world that can't read and write. as well as writing a novel, you've written an album of songs to accompany the storyline. i can't think of anybody having done anything like that before. can you? no. but... we said — we talked about it —

we wrote a mystery and made some history! # just my own guitar and me...# run, rose, run is about an aspiring singer with a dark secret, who travels to nashville and meets one of country music's biggest stars, ruthanna ryder. now ruthanna is tiny — so are you, dolly. she's glamorous — so are you, dolly. and she's been wearing heels since she was 12 years old. is that bit true as well? ha, that's true as well! and that's why i'm going to play that part when we do a movie! that's right. when he started writing — you know, coming up with who the characters should be — i thought, well, i can certainly relate to the young one. i can relate to the old one, because i've been doing this for 50 years. # back through the years i go wandering once again # back to the seasons

of my youth...# the book offers a fascinating insight into the music industry, and page after page you write that it's a tough business. things are particularly tough for women. dolly parton, give us more of a sense of how tough it is and why? the music business can be extra hard, especially as a young person. # i'm going to woman up and take it like a man.# when i wrote the song woman up (and take it like a man), i thought, well, if you're if you're going to bitch about how things are in this world, you've got to get up there and do it. if the men — if you think the men are doing better than you, well, why don't you work harder? so, like, woman up and take it like a man, be as good as or better than. there's a line in the book that ruthanna ryder doesn't leave the bedroom without looking red carpet ready. is that you?

that's me! i even get up in the morning — at three o'clock in the morning, i might wait till four — i have to, you know, kind of get myself together. but i think, well, i'm going to put on a little makeup. i'm going to clean up a little bit, because itjust makes me feel better to feel like i'm presentable. i never know who might show up at my door, and i've always wanted to look good for my husband. i don't want to just stay dressed up for everybody else, look good for everybody else, and go home and look like a slouch for him. so, yes, i am always red carpet ready. ruthanna ryder has what they call in the book a legendary temper. have you seen, first of all, jim, a temper on dolly parton? yeah, she's awful. no, nothing. there's been no bumps in the road. does anything make you cross? yes, a lot of things. i mean, i'm a working girl. you don't... i mean, i've got a good heart and i've got a good personality and i want things to be good. but i'm a professional person. i didn't get where i'm at,

being walked on, or allowing other people to make all my decisions. i've got a temper. i don't... i don't lose it that often, but i use it. look, i got a gun out there in my purse, and up to now i've been forgiving and forgetting because of the way i was brought up. but i'll tell you one thing — if you ever say another word about me, or make another indecent proposal, i'm going to get that gun of mine and i'm going to change you from a rooster to a hen with one shot. # jump in the shower and the blood starts pumping # out on the streets the traffic startsjumping...# dolly parton was in her 30s when she made 9 to 5, the film about working women. now, at the age of 76, she's busier than ever. of course we'd all like to stay whatever our favorite age was. i think in my mind, i think 35, because i had been successful, and i even remember thinking at that time, this is a perfect time. but i have done more in my 70s than i did through most of the years of my life, and i still feel like i'm just getting started. so, i've had a great time.

i don't have time to to get old. i don't think old, i don't work old, i don't feel old, and i'm going to do my best not to look it if i don't have to. so, i have to say that i'm going to make the most of it. i think it's when you get that age, though, you think, well, i better get on it because, you know, time is marching on. jim patterson, dolly parton, thank you both so much. thank you, rebecca. thank you. which earworm have you got? 95, of course. == which earworm have you got? 95, of course. ' ,, , , course. -- 95. she is 'ust so effervescent. i and you can watch more of that interview with dolly parton on bbc iplayer. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. a london charity has accused

the government of treating immigrant women who escape domestic abuse as "second class" citizens. immigrants who are not married to british citizens are subject to the no recourse to public funds rule, which states they cannot access most forms of welfare benefits and social housing. the charity southall black sisters wants to see that change. it's this level of racism and sexism. you know, it's this anti—immigrant, hostile agenda which is really feeding the second class provision for migrant women. well, in a statement the home office said it is committed to supporting all victims of domestic abuse, regardless of their immigration status — and that it had worked closely with southall black sisters. nearly half a million pounds will be made available to increase covid vaccination take—up in luton. only 40% of its population have had their booster, and three in ten are yet to receive their firstjab. the council says that those under

25 years old are less likely to have been vaccinated, along with those in some south asian and eastern european communities. converting some of central london's empty offices and shops into homes could help the capital recoverfrom covid, but it should be done carefully. that's according to the centre for london think—tank, which says that so—called permitted development could create affordable homes in central london. but it warned that they could be poor quality and lead to social tension. a giant puppet of a nine—year—old refugee girl will lay flowers outside the ukrainian embassy later today in a show of support. the puppet is called little amal — and she's been designed to highlight the plight of child refugees. last year she travelled 5,000 miles across eight countries. well, if you're heading out on public transport this morning, this is how tfl services are looking right now. good news. all lines running a good service. onto the weather now with kate kinsella.

good morning. it's another reasonably mild start this morning. temperatures mid to high single figures first thing. this front brings a little more cloud to us today. with that, one or two spots of rain potentially first thing this morning. it's largely dry throughout, but brighter in the east. a bit of sunshine there. for the west, that cloud is going to thicken towards the end of the afternoon. the wind strengthens today as well. temperatures reaching 14 celsius. as we head through the night we still have a fair amount of cloud. spots of light rain, spots of drizzle. the minimum temperature still very mild, between 7 and 9 celsius. that wind will continue to strengthen. for friday, another cold front makes more progress east, bringing outbreaks of rain through tomorrow. some could be quite heavy, especially as we head through the afternoon, after a dry and bright start. we could also hear, later on in the day, a rumble or two of thunder, as showers follow. temperatures tomorrow getting up to 12 celsius. as we head into the weekend, it's looking like a drier day for saturday, with some spells of sunshine. more rain for sunday and a dry day once again for monday. midweek next week, temperatures are set to get warmer.

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good morning welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today... international condemnation of russia after the bombing of a maternity and children's hospital in the beseiged city of mariupol — ukraine's president zelensky describes it as a war crime. translation: we have not done and would never do i anything like this war crime in any of the cities of the donetsk or lugansk regions, or of any region, because we are people. high—level talks are to take place today between the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia — their first since the invasion began. a direct plea from ukraine's ambassador to the uk, as he begs the government to relax visa rules for people fleeing the war, most of them women and children. i totally hope they're not posing any — any threat, especially terrorist

threat to the uk. so that's why i hope and i beg that the procedures will be dropped and every bureaucratic red tape should be cancelled. an easy route through to the quarter—finals of the champions league for manchester city, but the real story of the night was in madrid. a 17—minute hat trick for karim benzema helps real madrid come from behind to knock paris saint germain out. we'll catch up with the family of tony hudgell on their campaign for a new national child cruelty register. good morning. the weatherfor the next few days remains unsettled. there will be rain at times, it will be windy at times but it will be mild. and anything by the middle of next week in the east and south—east we could have highs of 17, 18. all the details throughout the morning's programme. it's thursday, the 10th of march. ukraine's president has accused russia of a "war crime" after a maternity and children's hospital was bombed

in the port city of mariupol. local officials say at least 17 people have been wounded. the explosion happened when a ceasefire was supposed to be in force in the area — to allow civilians to leave. the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia are expected to meet later for their first face—to—face talks since the russian invasion began. james reynolds reports. ukraine calls this strike, which hit a maternity hospital in mariupol, a war crime. it buried patients underneath the rubble. for so many in this city, these buildings will have been the site of their happiest ever days, where they and then their children were born. that life, though, is now gone. the city of mariupol is besieged by russian forces. it's without food, water, electricity or gas. if a hospital is hit,

how can anywhere be safe? translation: we have not done, and would never do, _ anything like this war crime in any of the cities of the donetsk or lugansk regions, or of any region because we are people, but are you? the bombing of the maternity hospital is the final proof — proof that the genocide of ukrainians is taking place. europeans, you can't say that you didn't see what happened to ukrainians, what happened in mariupol with the people of mariupol. you saw, you know. in irpin, north of the capital, kyiv, residents make the slow walk to safety. ukrainians here fear a renewed russian assault. more than two million people have now fled their country, the fastest exodus in europe since the second world war. we want to establish

the humanitarian corridors to allow people in and supplies for those ones who have stayed in besieged cities, you know, unfortunately in sort of medieval way. that's our priority number one, and we wanted to stop the war. we wanted to hear what they can come up with but we do not believe that there are some compromises can be given on our side. we've tried it for eight years to give all the compromises, and unfortunately it didn't work. they came with war against us and killing people as we speak. ukraine has put its points to russian negotiators in three rounds of talks — so far without breakthrough. now, the country's respective foreign ministers will meet in turkey, the highest level contact since russia's invasion began. james reynolds, bbc news. today's front pages here in the uk are dominated by the attack on the maternity hospital in mariupol. "aiming at mothers and babies" is the times headline. the daily mail calls

the attack "depraved." and the mirror also goes for a single—word headline — "barbaric." we can speak now to the deputy mayor of mariupol, sergei orlov. very good morning to year. festival, can i ask you about casualties. can you update us on the people who had been injured? first you update us on the people who had been injured?— been injured? first of all. we confirmed — been injured? first of all. we confirmed the _ been injured? first of all. we confirmed the information i been injured? first of all. we i confirmed the information about 17 injured and the fact people are pregnant women, women and doctors from the hospital. in the morning we received additional information there are three killed people one of them is a child.— them is a child. there are three --eole them is a child. there are three people you _ them is a child. there are three people you now _ them is a child. there are three people you now know _ them is a child. there are three people you now know to - them is a child. there are three people you now know to have i them is a child. there are three i people you now know to have died. i am just checking this with you. one of those people is a child. do you know the age of the child? six.

know the age of the child? six ears. a know the age of the child? six years. a six-year-old - know the age of the child? six years. a six-year-old child. i know the age of the child? six l years. a six-year-old child. was know the age of the child? six i years. a six-year-old child. was the child's mother _ years. a six-year-old child. was the child's mother with _ years. a six-year-old child. was the child's mother with them _ years. a six-year-old child. was the child's mother with them in - years. a six-year-old child. was the child's mother with them in the i child's mother with them in the hospital? do you know the relationship? hospital? do you know the relationshi? ., ., , ., , . relationship? unfortunately, no such information- — relationship? unfortunately, no such information. can _ relationship? unfortunately, no such information. can you _ relationship? unfortunately, no such information. can you describe... i relationship? unfortunately, no such information. can you describe... we| information. can you describe... we can see some _ information. can you describe. .. we can see some of— information. can you describe... we can see some of the _ information. can you describe... we can see some of the pictures - information. can you describe... we can see some of the pictures now. information. can you describe... wej can see some of the pictures now as we look at them. i know you have not been to the site yourself but can you describe the kind of damage that has been done to the hospital? taste has been done to the hospital? we all see has been done to the hospital? - all see the results of this bombing. we had honest territory, the medical campus, there were three buildings, the maternity hospital, children's hospital and children's therapy. one does not exist, another received a lot of damages without windows and doors and so on. you see the diameter and the depth. it is their

biggest bomb, i don't know what it is but it is awful.— is but it is awful. whether a given any warning _ is but it is awful. whether a given any warning at — is but it is awful. whether a given any warning at all? _ is but it is awful. whether a given any warning at all? -- _ is but it is awful. whether a given any warning at all? -- were i is but it is awful. whether a given any warning at all? -- were they| any warning at all? —— were they given any warning at will? we received a _ given any warning at will? we received a lot _ given any warning at will? - received a lot of information about bombing and it is during the day a lot of times and a lot of cases of bombing. people in the end are afraid of bombing. iflah bombing. people in the end are afraid of bombing.— bombing. people in the end are afraid of bombing. can i ask about what the russians _ afraid of bombing. can i ask about what the russians have _ afraid of bombing. can i ask about what the russians have said i afraid of bombing. can i ask about what the russians have said in i what the russians have said in response to the images we are seeing? you may well have had this. they are saying this is fake news because they say the building was formerly used as a maternity hospital but has now been taken over by troops. that is what the russians are saying about this bombing. what do you say to that?—

do you say to that? russia is the producer of _ do you say to that? russia is the producer of fake _ do you say to that? russia is the producer of fake news _ do you say to that? russia is the producer of fake news itself i do you say to that? russia is the producer of fake news itself and | producer of fake news itself and propaganda news. 17 injured people and three killed people and also child is an awful number of this bombing. i am absolutely sure it is a war crime and genocide of ukraine as a nation. iflah a war crime and genocide of ukraine as a nation-— as a nation. can i ask about how thins as a nation. can i ask about how things are _ as a nation. can i ask about how things are in _ as a nation. can i ask about how things are in mariupol? - as a nation. can i ask about how things are in mariupol? you i as a nation. can i ask about how things are in mariupol? you are | as a nation. can i ask about how i things are in mariupol? you are nine days into a siege. tell me about water, food, basic services. we don't have _ water, food, basic services. - don't have any utilities in the city for the ninth day. no water supply, no heat and sanitary system three days before the russian army was sheued days before the russian army was shelled by artillery and destroyed. today's picture from the street of mariupol, you can imagine times when

people collected word, the temperature outside is below zero but people are happy because they had snow and the possibility to collect some snow and melt it to water. they share their last products and prepare some food on a fire on the street. that is what mariupol looks like at the moment. is there any possibility of a ceasefire where you are to help people leave the city? we ceasefire where you are to help people leave the city? we hope and ra to people leave the city? we hope and pray to establish _ people leave the city? we hope and pray to establish a _ people leave the city? we hope and pray to establish a ceasefire - people leave the city? we hope and pray to establish a ceasefire in - pray to establish a ceasefire in mariupol and a ceasefire over the safe route from mariupol. we are hoping to evacuate 2000, 3000 a day and transport humanitarian tracks. but russia continues to shell and

bar mariupol. at the momentjust 20 minutes before we talk to our colleagues, and they tell that there is a lot of aircraft flying military and continues bombing the centre of the city. flan and continues bombing the centre of the ci . ., ., and continues bombing the centre of theci . ., ., the city. can i ask you about the sirit of the city. can i ask you about the spirit of your — the city. can i ask you about the spirit of your friends, _ the city. can i ask you about the spirit of your friends, family, i spirit of your friends, family, people who are remaining in mariupol, given what has been done to the city, the damage and the loss of life? how are people's spirits? of life? how are people's spirits? of course all civil people are of course all civil people are scared and afraid. the first word they give to us, please transfer humanitarian help because we don't have feed, we don't have water. 0ur military and ukrainian troops are very brave and are ready to continue defeating the sieges. the issue is

with humanitarian roots. the citizens because they do not have access to food and water. flan citizens because they do not have access to food and water.- citizens because they do not have access to food and water. can i ask one personal _ access to food and water. can i ask one personal question? _ access to food and water. can i ask one personal question? when - access to food and water. can i ask. one personal question? when you've finished talking to us and maybe otherjournalists, will you do today? what will you be doing? i want all the audience all over the world to know the russian army makes each hour, each minute each second genocide ukraine as a nation. they destroy all civil infrastructure. they do not use any weapon. unfortunately they cannot defeat the lives of our children when they do bombing from there. we ask all the world to help us and protect their lives. i do not know which way is better to do. some told we should ask for no—fly area. some told we

should receive weapons anti—missile, anti—aircraft weapon. just ten minutes before our colleague told there is a lot of war aircraft, russian war aircraft flying 25, 30 metres over the city. i don't know how to protect from them without weapon. how to protect from them without wea on. . ~' how to protect from them without weaon. ., ~ i. how to protect from them without weaon. . ~ y how to protect from them without weaon. . ~' , . how to protect from them without weaon. . ~' ,, , . ., weapon. thank you very much for findin: weapon. thank you very much for finding time _ weapon. thank you very much for finding time for— weapon. thank you very much for finding time for us _ weapon. thank you very much for finding time for us today. - weapon. thank you very much for finding time for us today. that. weapon. thank you very much for. finding time for us today. that was the deputy mayor of mariupol. you'll be well aware that as was described so vividly, it is a city that has been damaged very badly. just updating us on injuries and casualties at the hospital, maternity hospital, confirming i7 maternity hospital, confirming 17 have been injured and three people killed including one child of six years old. we're also talking about russian reaction. let's speak now to our correspondent

in moscow, jenny hill. what has been the reaction? we were saying that fake news has been used. we haven't had an official reaction from the kremlin yet. this has come from the kremlin yet. this has come from a diplomat, a russian diplomat at the un who has tweeted according to russian state media this morning, describing as what has happened as fake news. he said the maternity unit had been emptied sometime before and was being used as what is described as radical ukrainian fighters as a military facility. that does echo what the foreign ministry spokesman had said as before the strike. she did not specify which hospital but did specifically talk about a maternity hospital that was being used as fighters as a firing position. as you know, russia, moscow, has consistently said it does not target

civilian infrastructure but it also consistently has said that what it refers to as ukrainian nationalists are putting in heavy armaments in among civilian areas.— are putting in heavy armaments in among civilian areas. thank you very much. many fleeing the bombardment in ukraine are heading west — and one place refugees have been passing through is the town of poltava. 0ur correspondent sarah rainsford is there this morning. what picture can you paint what is happening there? let'sjust what picture can you paint what is happening there? let's just check sarah palin here is ok. we can see the images stop —— can here as 0k. the images stop —— can here as ok. we are trying to do is give you a clear picture of what is happening in terms of refugee movements. but we do now is the vast majority of those leaving ukraine have indeed gone to poland. the estimate figure

is somewhere around a million. we had from the un saying that the total number of those who have fled ukraine so far is two million and thatis ukraine so far is two million and that is likely to rise. we will keep you up—to—date with that. ukrainian ambassador to the uk has strongly criticised the visa scheme. that's for people fleeing the invasion. ministers say measures are needed to check the identity of those arriving, but vadym prystaiko says the government should drop what he called "bureaucratic red tape." i hope and i beg that the procedures will be dropped and every bureaucratic red tape should be cancelled. we will deal with later with any issues. sometimes it's documents, but there is embassy here for you to help with the documents. some people couldn't even get their passports because they are fleeing under bombardment. let's get more now from our chief political correspondent,

adam fleming, whojoins us from westminster. there has been a lot of pressure over the last few days, as you are well aware, over the government handling for these applications. there has been confusion about where the processing centres out whether the processing centres out whether the home office is doing enough and the home office is doing enough and the numbers as well. that the home office is doing enough and the numbers as well.— the numbers as well. that is a good summary of— the numbers as well. that is a good summary of some _ the numbers as well. that is a good summary of some of _ the numbers as well. that is a good summary of some of the _ the numbers as well. that is a good summary of some of the criticisms. summary of some of the criticisms levelled at the government over the last vides and the first week of the operation of this scheme. what we can expect today is potentially another extension of who is eligible to bring people overfrom ukraine into the uk. it could be ukrainian to now on temporary visas, like the seasonal workers scheme for people in agriculture, they would be able to bring home members of their extended family having not been able to do that till now. put there be tweaks to the bureaucracy? if you are a ukrainian person who has visited the uk in the last four years, maybe you would not have to

give your biometric details like your fingerprints again. give your biometric details like yourfingerprints again. more details from ministers in a few hours' time and an update on the numbers which are creeping up. also what we are waiting for our details of the second scheme where you can sponsor a ukrainian to come over to the uk if you are an individual or a community or an organisation. ministers have been saying they will give as details of that scheme this week. there are not a lot of days left of this week so presumably those details will be coming pretty soon. quite a lot of pressure on the government. also today we will see the start of the new pop—up in lille in northern france which will be processing applications, but only of people who are referred there by border force officials. people who are referred there by borderforce officials. ukrainian border force officials. ukrainian refugees borderforce officials. ukrainian refugees are being told not to go to lille to try to get a visa. that is people coming in this direction. in terms of what is going on the other direction to ukraine, it is more

military kit. yesterday the defence secretary ben wallace said the government is looking at sending anti—aircraft missiles to ukraine, which would be a new level of weapon thatis which would be a new level of weapon that is being sent there. for the last year the uk has been sending anti—tank missiles. i suppose if you are the ukrainian government and you really want nato to introduce a no—fly zone are native to say no because that would bring them potentially into direct conflict with russia, maybe anti—aircraft missiles are the next best thing. thank you very much. let's speak now to our kyiv correspondent james waterhouse. very good morning to you. we were speaking a moment ago. maybe you can add some more to this to what the deputy mayor in mariupol has said. just updating us on the bombing of the hospital, saying i7 just updating us on the bombing of the hospital, saying 17 injured and on top of that three people killed,

including a six—year—old child. they are devastating scenes. the? including a six-year-old child. they are devastating scenes.— are devastating scenes. they really are. i are devastating scenes. they really are- i think — are devastating scenes. they really are. i think we _ are devastating scenes. they really are. i think we have _ are devastating scenes. they really are. i think we have gradually - are devastating scenes. they really are. i think we have gradually been learning what mariupol has been going through over the past few days. it has been brought into plain sight yesterday. the images of their children's and maternity hospital, a hollowed out structure of a building, windows blown into bubbles inside collapsed. reports by authorities that women and children were trapped underneath, pregnant women being stretchered out with blood on their faces, women being stretchered out with blood on theirfaces, some limping out as well with the look of shock. it has been condemned around the world. the united nations has called it horrifying and has urged for an ending to the bloodshed. the president zelensky has called it a war crimes and ukrainian troops would never do anything remotely similar. moscow has said it would

never target civilian sites in this way but it has sent shock waves and shows what mariupol has gone through with more than 1200 reported deaths over the last nine days. what with more than 1200 reported deaths over the last nine days.— over the last nine days. what about this warning — over the last nine days. what about this warning today, _ over the last nine days. what about this warning today, while _ over the last nine days. what about this warning today, while reports i this warning today, while reports are you hearing in terms of military action? == are you hearing in terms of military action? . ,., are you hearing in terms of military action? ., ,., , action? -- what reports? in kyiv, webber has— action? -- what reports? in kyiv, webber has been _ action? -- what reports? in kyiv, webber has been intense - action? -- what reports? in kyiv,j webber has been intense fighting action? -- what reports? in kyiv, i webber has been intense fighting in the north and west of the city, we are told ukrainian forces have mounted some kind of counter attack. they say they have taken out a number of russian tanks, including in towns like irpin. some people have been able to make it to the centre of the city yesterday on agreed rates but others are trapped. it shows how things can change in such close proximity. in the centre it is fairly calm, there are checkpoints and a military presence. 0n the outskirts there is heavy fighting. we have had from people

who are trapped on the streets and trapped in their homes unable to escape the heavy shelling and weapons being fired. that is what is going on here. there was an air strike in the north—eastern city of sumy where there have been three reported deaths, a i3—year—old boy and two women. whilst it is a picture in one place it is clearly not the case somewhere else. miran; not the case somewhere else. away from the immediate _ not the case somewhere else. away from the immediate military - not the case somewhere else. away from the immediate military action, there are talks scheduled to take place later this afternoon on a higher level than have taken place previously. higher levelthan have taken place reviousl . ., ., ., previously. you are right. until now we have had _ previously. you are right. until now we have had three _ previously. you are right. until now we have had three rounds - previously. you are right. until now we have had three rounds of- previously. you are right. until now we have had three rounds of peace | we have had three rounds of peace talks between negotiators from both ukraine and russia. no real breakthrough on the ceasefire front apart from these evacuation routes, these humanitarian corridors. after numerous failed attempts for the last two days, at least 40,000 people have been able to escape the

heaviest fighting. today we are seeing the turn of the foreign ministers meeting in turkey. president addad turkey sees himself as a mediator in this crisis. —— erdogan. expectations are low. the ukrainian minister once a humanitarian crisis to be sorted out. officials claim that russia could be softening its stance on issues of demilitarisation, as it cools it. it wanted ukraine to completely demilitarise itself. now it is saying only to that on the occupied eastern territories but it also wants crimea to officially be recognised as a part of russia. the first time he is softening his stance on nato. the first hint of compromise but a drop in the asian given the continued fighting and

violence we are seeing in the war so far. —— a drop in the ocean. many fleeing the bombardment in ukraine are heading west — and one place refugees have been passing through is the town of poltava. he had been talking to the people, what have they been telling you? you have been what have they been telling you? i’m. have been hearing about the devastating attack on the hospital in mariupol yesterday. what we have been hearing our stories are people fleeing and the city is besieged by russian troops and under extremely heavy bombardment for days until the beginning of the war. that is the cities of sumy and also the city of kharkiv, we travel to ourselves a few days ago and saw the devastation there. we saw the residential buildings at the being attacked and very badly damaged. we saw local government administration buildings also devastated and ration our

attacks and missile strikes. that is what people are fleeing their west from. —— ration attacks. when people talk about attacking a hospital that is horrific. we are talking to people whose homes are also coming under attack. this city is turning into a giant waiting room is people are coming here fleeing the fighting and trying to figure out where to go. live separated and overturned of course by the terrible war which at the moment shows no sign of stopping. —— lives uprooted. we the moment shows no sign of stopping. -- lives uprooted. we are heafina stopping. -- lives uprooted. we are hearing about _ stopping. -- lives uprooted. we are hearing about more _ stopping. -- lives uprooted. we are hearing about more reports - stopping. -- lives uprooted. we are hearing about more reports of - hearing about more reports of attacks in the south—east. the hearing about more reports of attacks in the south-east. the whole of the east, the north and _ of the east, the north and the south of the east, the north and the south of ukraine is involved in some way in the fighting. mariupol in the south—east we had been hearing a lot

about because that is key for russia to have a land corridor through to crimea which it annexed into thousand and ia. fighters had been pushing north to where we were until recently. fighters have been trying to push down. in the east again heavy fighting in key cities. this wall has changed life beyond belief across this entire region. —— this war. you drive across roads and along roads, there are checkpoints and armed men at many stages along the way, trenches dug into the roads and signs and billboards along the highway the entire way sending a very clear message to president putin that the population of this part of the country will not greet his tanks with roses, flowers and cheers. they do not see them as liberators, they see them as

occupiers. the messages are very strong on the billboards. we will be speaking to the armed forces minister in around six, seven minutes, just to get the very latest from what the ministry of defence is saying about what is happening in ukraine. you also need to know what is going on outside if you fancy a trip out. good morning. goad trip out. good morning. good morning- _ trip out. good morning. good morning. this _ trip out. good morning. good morning. this morning - trip out. good morning. good morning. this morning is - trip out. good morning. good. morning. this morning is quite cloudy to start. a little bit of sunshine and a few showers. for the rest of the week it remains unsettled. there will be rain at times and it will be breezy. the mayan things will continue. a chilly start in the north—west of scotland with fog and frost and showers. for much of the west of scotland a fair bit of plaid rabid one or two exceptions. some of the cloud and

showers affecting the north of ireland. —— it of ploughed around. still showers and drizzle. showers in the south—east, many of which will fade. in the afternoon sun breaks in the cloud again across the file south of england. —— the far south. as we head through the evening and overnight more showers will come up from the channel islands. they will be pushing steadily north. by the end of the night the wind will strengthen across the south—west where we have across the south—west where we have a weather front arriving. not as cold in scotland and northern ireland as last night. generally speaking it would be quite mild night anyway. tomorrow we start with showers. the rain will be a feature in the south—west accompanied by strong winds. wherever you are tomorrow it will be windy. behind the rain with the sea returned to showers by some of which will have hail and thunder. temperatures seven

to 12. ., “ hail and thunder. temperatures seven to 12. . ~ hail and thunder. temperatures seven to 12. ., 4' , hail and thunder. temperatures seven t012. . y . hail and thunder. temperatures seven t012. . , . ,, to 12. thank you very much. see you later. we to 12. thank you very much. see you later- we will _ to 12. thank you very much. see you later. we will be _ to 12. thank you very much. see you later. we will be talking _ to 12. thank you very much. see you later. we will be talking to - to 12. thank you very much. see you later. we will be talking to the - later. we will be talking to the armed forces minister in a few minutes. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm victoria hollins. a london charity has accused the government of treating immigrant women who escape domestic abuse as second class citizens. immigrants who are not married to british citizens are subject to the no recourse to public funds rule, which states they cannot access most forms of welfare benefits and social housing. the charity southall black sisters wants to see that change.. it's this level of racism and sexism. you know, it's this anti—immigrant, hostile agenda which is really feeding the second class provision for migrant women. well, in a statement the home office said it is committed to supporting all victims

of domestic abuse, regardless of their immigration status — and that it had worked closely with southall black sisters. converting some of central london's empty offices and shops into homes could help the capital recoverfrom covid, but it should be done carefully. that's according to the centre for london think—tank, which says that so—called permitted development could create affordable homes in central london. but it warned that they could be poor quality and lead to social tension. with inflation continuing to rise, young people in london are feeling the pinch. in a national poll, conducted by spareroom at the beginning of this year, london came out at the bottom for affordability, with nearly a third of londoners saying they spend more than half of their salary on rent. many young professionals in the city are anxious about things getting worse. the thought of things increasing any more than, you know, some of the bills that you're seeing this year, that's really scary. well, if you're heading out

on public transport this morning, this is how tfl services are looking right now. onto the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. it's another reasonably mild start this morning. temperatures mid to high single figures first thing. this front brings a little more cloud to us today. with that, one or two spots of rain potentially first thing this morning. it's largely dry throughout, but bright in the east. a bit of sunshine there. for the west, that cloud is going to thicken towards the end of the afternoon. the wind strengthens today as well. temperatures reaching iii celsius. as we head through the night we still have a fair amount of cloud. spots of light rain, spots of drizzle. the minimum temperature still very mild, between seven and nine celsius. that wind will continue to strengthen. for friday, another cold front makes more progress east, bringing outbreaks of rain through tomorrow. some could be quite heavy, especially as we head through the afternoon,

after a dry and bright start. we could also hear, later on in the day, a rumble or two of thunder, as showers follow. temperatures tomorrow getting up to 12 celsius. as we head into the weekend, it's looking like a drier day for saturday, with some spells of sunshine. more rain for sunday and a dry day once again for monday. midweek next week, temperatures are set to get warmer. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. good morning, you're watching breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. let's get up to date with everything that has been happening overnight in ukraine. james reynolds is here. james hall, grateful for that. thank ou. we james hall, grateful for that. thank you- we will — james hall, grateful for that. thank you. we will start _ james hall, grateful for that. thank you. we will start by _ james hall, grateful for that. thank you. we will start by talking - james hall, grateful for that. thank you. we will start by talking about i you. we will start by talking about malleable. what you have been hearing — malleable. what you have been hearing about the hit on the

hospital _ hearing about the hit on the hospital. i want to show you where it is and _ hospital. i want to show you where it is and why — hospital. i want to show you where it is and why it is so important. —— mariupoh — it is and why it is so important. —— mariupoh for— it is and why it is so important. —— mariupol. for russia, the attempt is to link_ mariupol. for russia, the attempt is to link the _ mariupol. for russia, the attempt is to link the south —— link the territory— to link the south —— link the territory has on the south with the east _ territory has on the south with the east that — territory has on the south with the east. that makes the seizure is so important — east. that makes the seizure is so important. it comes at a huge cost to ukrainians inside mariupol itself~ — to ukrainians inside mariupol itself. the city's maternity and children's's hospital, as we talked about— children's's hospital, as we talked about this — children's's hospital, as we talked about this morning, was hit in his stride _ about this morning, was hit in his stride the — about this morning, was hit in his stride. the deputy mayor has said three _ stride. the deputy mayor has said three people were killed, including a six year— three people were killed, including a six year child. ukraine calls it a war crime. we confirm the _ ukraine calls it a war crime. - confirm the information about the 17 injured and affected people, pregnant women, doctors in the hospital. in the morning we received additional information that there are also three killed people, one of them is a child. these are the latest pictures we have _ these are the latest pictures we have from — these are the latest pictures we have from a strike in the north—east of the _ have from a strike in the north—east of the country, in kharkiv,

ukraine's— of the country, in kharkiv, ukraine's second—biggest city. not far from _ ukraine's second—biggest city. not far from the border with russia. you can understand why so many people need to— can understand why so many people need to flee their homes. they are doing _ need to flee their homes. they are doing so— need to flee their homes. they are doing so by— need to flee their homes. they are doing so by heading west. but two million people across the country have managed to flee west into the rest of europe. another convoy has headed from sssooommmeee towards the relative safety _ sssooommmeee towards the relative safety of _ sssooommmeee towards the relative safety of central ukraine. for many, poland _ safety of central ukraine. for many, poland is— safety of central ukraine. for many, poland is the safe place. that's where the us vice president kamala harris has gone for a round of talks with polish leaders. poland's offered the us fighterjets for use in the war against russia. but the us is wary of getting drawn into a direct fight with russia. russia itself will later today hold direct talks with ukraine. this is a picture of the ukraine foreign— this is a picture of the ukraine foreign minister meeting his turkish counterpart. in a few minutes, he will sit _ counterpart. in a few minutes, he will sit opposite his russian

number, _ will sit opposite his russian number, sergei lavrov, the russian foreign— number, sergei lavrov, the russian foreign minister. these will be the highest _ foreign minister. these will be the highest levels talks since the war began _ highest levels talks since the war bean. . very much. we can speak now to the armed forces minister, james heappey, who joins us from westminster. thank you for your time this morning. ijust want thank you for your time this morning. i just want to ask you if you can tell me what you know about the striker mariupol? we have updated figures in of casualties. —— the strike in mariupol. i7 updated figures in of casualties. —— the strike in mariupol. 17 injured. the deputy mayor telling this programme this morning that three people died, including a six—year—old child. people died, including a six-year-old child. people died, including a six- ear-old child. ~ ., six-year-old child. what can you tell us about _ six-year-old child. what can you tell us about that _ six-year-old child. what can you tell us about that attack? - six-year-old child. what can you tell us about that attack? it's - tell us about that attack? it's sickening. i can't tell you anything more _ sickening. i can't tell you anything more than — sickening. i can't tell you anything more than you are hearing from your own ukrainian sources, because those are the _ own ukrainian sources, because those are the only— own ukrainian sources, because those are the only sources that we have on this as _ are the only sources that we have on this as well — are the only sources that we have on this as well. but, you know, we ask ourselves— this as well. but, you know, we ask ourselves the question, how did this

happen? _ ourselves the question, how did this happen? was it an indiscriminate use of artillery— happen? was it an indiscriminate use of artillery or missiles into a truilt-up _ of artillery or missiles into a built—up area, or was a hospital explicitly— built—up area, or was a hospital explicitly targeted? both are equally despicable. both, as the ukrainians have already pointed out, would _ ukrainians have already pointed out, would amount to a war crime. and so, what _ would amount to a war crime. and so, what matters — would amount to a war crime. and so, what matters beyond the outrage of the fact _ what matters beyond the outrage of the fact this has happened in the first place, is to make sure that all of— first place, is to make sure that all of this— first place, is to make sure that all of this is— first place, is to make sure that all of this is catalogued and so, and they— all of this is catalogued and so, and they surely will be, president putin— and they surely will be, president putin and — and they surely will be, president putin and everybody in the military chain— putin and everybody in the military chain of— putin and everybody in the military chain of command beneath him, because — chain of command beneath him, because war crimes are committed at every— because war crimes are committed at every level _ because war crimes are committed at every level, notjust the ultimate decision— every level, notjust the ultimate decision maker, people will be held to account — decision maker, people will be held to account for what they are doing. can i_ to account for what they are doing. can i he _ to account for what they are doing. can i be absolutely clear with you, in your role as armed forces minister, do you believe this constitutes a war crime? well, look,

es. if constitutes a war crime? well, look, yes- if you — constitutes a war crime? well, look, yes. if you deliberately _ constitutes a war crime? well, look, yes. if you deliberately target - constitutes a war crime? well, look, yes. if you deliberately target a - yes. if you deliberately target a piece _ yes. if you deliberately target a piece of— yes. if you deliberately target a piece of civilian infrastructure like a — piece of civilian infrastructure like a hospital, yes. if you are using — like a hospital, yes. if you are using indiscriminate artillery into an urban — using indiscriminate artillery into an urban area without due regard for the reality— an urban area without due regard for the reality that you could hit a protected site like a hospital, then that too, _ protected site like a hospital, then that too, in— protected site like a hospital, then that too, in my view, is. it is for others _ that too, in my view, is. it is for others in — that too, in my view, is. it is for others in time tojudge that. but as an international community our responsibility is to make sure that the evidence is gathered, recorded, so that— the evidence is gathered, recorded, so that when the time comes, and i promise _ so that when the time comes, and i promise you — so that when the time comes, and i promise you that the time will come? there _ promise you that the time will come? there is— promise you that the time will come? there is an _ promise you that the time will come? there is an opportunity to prosecute these _ there is an opportunity to prosecute these people in the international terminal— these people in the international terminal chords to decipher whether these _ terminal chords to decipher whether these are _ terminal chords to decipher whether these are war crimes or not. many eo - le these are war crimes or not. many people will — these are war crimes or not. many people will have — these are war crimes or not. many people will have been _ these are war crimes or not. many people will have been justifiably horrified by watching these images. people will say, what has to happen before the uk, and before we do more

than we are doing it now? and i know there is a huge debate around the restrictions you fear because of nato's involvement. but you will be well aware, personally, if notjust listening to what people are saying, that people are finding it hard to stomach what they are witnessing? oi stomach what they are witnessing? of course they are. and this is... it's horrible — course they are. and this is... it's horrible you _ course they are. and this is... it's horrible. you are seeing played out for you _ horrible. you are seeing played out for you in _ horrible. you are seeing played out for you in ultra hd all of the horrors _ for you in ultra hd all of the horrors of— for you in ultra hd all of the horrors of war in european cities. it is stomach _ horrors of war in european cities. it is stomach churning. everything that we _ it is stomach churning. everything that we can — it is stomach churning. everything that we can do, we are doing in terms— that we can do, we are doing in terms of— that we can do, we are doing in terms of providing ever more capable weaponry— terms of providing ever more capable weaponry to the ukrainians. they have _ weaponry to the ukrainians. they have had — weaponry to the ukrainians. they have had success. the anti—tank weapons — have had success. the anti—tank weapons we provided have halted russian _ weapons we provided have halted russian armoured columns in their

advance _ russian armoured columns in their advance towards kyiv. the anti—aircraft systems that a number of countries — anti—aircraft systems that a number of countries have provided have been successful— of countries have provided have been successful in denying russians there superiority _ successful in denying russians there superiority and ensuring that the russian — superiority and ensuring that the russian air force can no longer fly during _ russian air force can no longer fly during the — russian air force can no longer fly during the day. what we are now looking _ during the day. what we are now looking at — during the day. what we are now looking at is the feasibility of sending _ looking at is the feasibility of sending capabilities like the uk hi-h sending capabilities like the uk high velocity missile that can be used _ high velocity missile that can be used at — high velocity missile that can be used at night, so that ukrainians can close — used at night, so that ukrainians can close those guys at night as well _ can close those guys at night as well. unfortunately, so much of what well. unfortunately, so much of what we are _ well. unfortunately, so much of what we are seeing is destruction caused by artillery— we are seeing is destruction caused by artillery and missile systems. and the — by artillery and missile systems. and the challenge there is that an awful— and the challenge there is that an awful lot — and the challenge there is that an awful lot of the stuff is still in russia — awful lot of the stuff is still in russia. so it's notjust a case of intervening _ russia. so it's notjust a case of intervening to try to police the ukrainian _ intervening to try to police the ukrainian skies. the missile systems we are _ ukrainian skies. the missile systems we are providing are already having the effect _ we are providing are already having the effect of doing that. what people — the effect of doing that. what people are really asking us is, are we going — people are really asking us is, are we going to — people are really asking us is, are we going to declare war on russia? and i_ we going to declare war on russia? and i think— we going to declare war on russia? and i think people have to be really clear that _ and i think people have to be really clear that the consequence of what they are _ clear that the consequence of what they are asking is a direct threat to the _

they are asking is a direct threat to the homeland. clearly, the government would want to avoid that at all costs _ government would want to avoid that at all costs because our first responsibility is the safety and security— responsibility is the safety and security of the united kingdom. | security of the united kingdom. i think what you said was, we are looking at upping the weaponry we are supplying. you talked about having already supplied some land to air missiles. why are you only looking at it? that is what people will be saying. send what equipment you have so it can be used now. the mayor of mariupol telling us this morning he is hearing reports of aircraft even as he is speaking flying over the cities. why not do it now? what is the hold—up? flying over the cities. why not do it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said — it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said is _ it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said is that _ it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said is that others _ it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said is that others have - it now? what is the hold-up? look, what i said is that others have sent | what i said is that others have sent stinger. _ what i said is that others have sent stinger. a — what i said is that others have sent stinger, a shoulder launched entry—level anti—aircraft weapon system, — entry—level anti—aircraft weapon system, that has contributed to quite _ system, that has contributed to quite significant ukrainian success.

the ukrainians reporting they have shot down — the ukrainians reporting they have shot down 44 russian combat aircraft and 48 _ shot down 44 russian combat aircraft and 48 russian helicopters. that has denied _ and 48 russian helicopters. that has denied russia air superiority and the ability— denied russia air superiority and the ability to operate during the day. when i say we are looking at, what _ day. when i say we are looking at, what i _ day. when i say we are looking at, what i mean, as the defence secretary— what i mean, as the defence secretary announced to the commons yesterday. _ secretary announced to the commons yesterday, is that it is our intend to do— yesterday, is that it is our intend to do this, — yesterday, is that it is our intend to do this, but there are some practicalities around how you train those _ practicalities around how you train those who— practicalities around how you train those who will use what will be a brand-new — those who will use what will be a brand—new weapon system, how we get it to them _ brand—new weapon system, how we get it to them it— brand—new weapon system, how we get it to them. it is those technicalities we are looking at. but the — technicalities we are looking at. but the defence secretary was very clear in _ but the defence secretary was very clear in the commons that provided we can— clear in the commons that provided we can make all of that work, and hopefully— we can make all of that work, and hopefully we will, that this is the next step— hopefully we will, that this is the next step in the uk support to ukraine — next step in the uk support to ukraine. ~ ., . ., , ., ., ., ukraine. what changes are going to be made to — ukraine. what changes are going to be made to the _ ukraine. what changes are going to be made to the visa _ ukraine. what changes are going to be made to the visa system - ukraine. what changes are going to be made to the visa system to - ukraine. what changes are going to | be made to the visa system to bring people out of ukraine to the uk? what changes are going to be made? i think overnight the home office have already— think overnight the home office have already indicated that they are

looking — already indicated that they are looking at expanding the programme and looking at a number of the policy— and looking at a number of the policy checks that they currently have _ policy checks that they currently have in — policy checks that they currently have in place in order to make the process— have in place in order to make the process easier. but there's another part of— process easier. but there's another part of the — process easier. but there's another part of the equation which is the speed at which people can get through— speed at which people can get through the process whatever the process _ through the process whatever the process is — through the process whatever the process is. and that's a matter of capacity — process is. and that's a matter of capacity. there are plenty of visa application centres around europe where _ application centres around europe where there are appointments, but in those _ where there are appointments, but in those they— where there are appointments, but in those they have been particularly busy. _ those they have been particularly busy, particularly in countries around — busy, particularly in countries around the borders of ukraine. we have _ around the borders of ukraine. we have made — around the borders of ukraine. we have made the offer to the home office _ have made the offer to the home office and — have made the offer to the home office and they have accepted, that we will _ office and they have accepted, that we will send some of the troops we have got— we will send some of the troops we have got on— we will send some of the troops we have got on standby for humanitarian tasks. _ have got on standby for humanitarian tasks. and _ have got on standby for humanitarian tasks. and i— have got on standby for humanitarian tasks, and i think this is a humanitarian task, to go and help increase _ humanitarian task, to go and help increase the capacity of those visa application centres. just increase the capacity of those visa application centres.— application centres. just to be clear, i think _ application centres. just to be clear, i think you _ application centres. just to be clear, i think you said - application centres. just to be clear, i think you said that - clear, i think you said that yesterday, that you offer that. is that going to happen? has that been

decided? ., ., , . decided? yeah, look, the home office have accepted — decided? yeah, look, the home office have accepted the _ decided? yeah, look, the home office have accepted the offer. _ decided? yeah, look, the home office have accepted the offer. the - decided? yeah, look, the home office have accepted the offer. the defence l have accepted the offer. the defence secretary _ have accepted the offer. the defence secretary has made it. and said that frankly— secretary has made it. and said that frankly we _ secretary has made it. and said that frankly we will send as many troops as the _ frankly we will send as many troops as the home office needs in order to .et as the home office needs in order to get these _ as the home office needs in order to get these visa application centre is working _ get these visa application centre is working at— get these visa application centre is working at the capacity the home office _ working at the capacity the home office wants them to. what we can't do yet. _ office wants them to. what we can't do yet, because clearly the countries that these visa application centres are in, they need _ application centres are in, they need to— application centres are in, they need to agree we can send troops. i can't _ need to agree we can send troops. i can't tell— need to agree we can send troops. i can't tell you — need to agree we can send troops. i can't tell you it's definitely happening and it's definitely happening and it's definitely happening today and it will be in this city — happening today and it will be in this city. but from a uk government perspective, the defence secretary has made — perspective, the defence secretary has made the offer, the home secretary— has made the offer, the home secretary has accepted. i made the immigration minister yesterday to discuss _ immigration minister yesterday to discuss what it will look like. we are working at a pace to tie down the detail — are working at a pace to tie down the detail. ok. the increased ca aci the detail. ok. the increased capacity will _ the detail. ci. the increased capacity will make a big the detail. iii the increased capacity will make a big difference. a lot of— capacity will make a big difference. a lot of people have made the point that there is one very simple thing you could do, which is to change the

responsibility from the carrier, whether it be an airline or a ferry company or eurostar, to check people, to allow them on the flights or the vessel, bring them to the uk and let border control deal with issues around their access to the uk when they get here. that is the stroke of a pen. the home secretary could do that immediately, allow them to travel, get them to safety. why is that not happening? charlie, ou are why is that not happening? charlie, you are beyond _ why is that not happening? charlie, you are beyond my— why is that not happening? charlie, you are beyond my area _ why is that not happening? charlie, you are beyond my area of - why is that not happening? charlie, | you are beyond my area of expertise. you will _ you are beyond my area of expertise. you will be _ you are beyond my area of expertise. you will be familiar with the argument. you will be familiar with the argument-— you will be familiar with the an ument. , ., , you will be familiar with the arrument. , ., , , , argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say — argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say there _ argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say there are _ argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say there are lots _ argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say there are lots of - argument. yes, i am. in broad brush i would say there are lots of things i i would say there are lots of things that you _ i would say there are lots of things that you could choose to do from a policy _ that you could choose to do from a policy perspective. i think the home secretary— policy perspective. i think the home secretary has to weight that are up against _ secretary has to weight that are up against this. a lot of people have made _ against this. a lot of people have made the — against this. a lot of people have made the point of this is different

from _ made the point of this is different from afghanistan, that taste is predominantly a refugee flow of women — predominantly a refugee flow of women and children because fighting a-ed women and children because fighting aged men— women and children because fighting aged men have remained in ukraine to fight _ aged men have remained in ukraine to fight i— aged men have remained in ukraine to fight i know— aged men have remained in ukraine to fight. i know the home secretary is very aware — fight. i know the home secretary is very aware of that. what she needs to make _ very aware of that. what she needs to make decisions around how to change _ to make decisions around how to change visa policy and crucially, the security checks that are done within— the security checks that are done within visa — the security checks that are done within visa policy, in a way that still gives— within visa policy, in a way that still gives her the assurance that she needs — still gives her the assurance that she needs that at a time of acute competition within europe between the west— competition within europe between the west and russia, we are not making — the west and russia, we are not making the mistake of dropping our guard _ making the mistake of dropping our guard altogether. but making the mistake of dropping our guard altogether.— making the mistake of dropping our guard altogether. but this is bogus, isn't it? this — guard altogether. but this is bogus, isn't it? this notion _ guard altogether. but this is bogus, isn't it? this notion that _ guard altogether. but this is bogus, isn't it? this notion that women - guard altogether. but this is bogus, | isn't it? this notion that women and children, you now, trying to get out of a war zone are a risk to our security, it's like a flag that has been raised. it doesn't make sense, does it? ., been raised. it doesn't make sense, does it? . , ., , does it? charlie, please, i acknowledge _ does it? charlie, please, i acknowledge very - does it? charlie, please, i acknowledge very much i does it? charlie, please, i acknowledge very much it| does it? charlie, please, i- acknowledge very much it was does it? charlie, please, i— acknowledge very much it was within the group _ acknowledge very much it was within the group of people coming. the point _ the group of people coming. the point i _ the group of people coming. the point i am — the group of people coming. the point i am simply making is, i know that the _ point i am simply making is, i know that the home secretary wants to

make _ that the home secretary wants to make this — that the home secretary wants to make this as easy a process as she could _ make this as easy a process as she could you — make this as easy a process as she could. you outline what seems like a very simple — could. you outline what seems like a very simple way of doing this. i suspect. — very simple way of doing this. i suspect, because i worked very closely— suspect, because i worked very closely with the immigration minister during the summer when we were doing _ minister during the summer when we were doing the evacuation from kabul. — were doing the evacuation from kabul, and i am working with him very closely now as we try to have the home — very closely now as we try to have the home office increase capacity as people _ the home office increase capacity as people leave ukraine, that these things— people leave ukraine, that these things are never as simple as people present _ things are never as simple as people present. the home secretary is very much _ present. the home secretary is very much aware — present. the home secretary is very much aware of the need to remove as much _ much aware of the need to remove as much bureaucracy as she can, but she does have _ much bureaucracy as she can, but she does have to — much bureaucracy as she can, but she does have to balance that against the risk— does have to balance that against the risk and i know she will make the risk and i know she will make the right— the risk and i know she will make the right choice.— the risk and i know she will make the right choice. understood. back to our the right choice. understood. back to your area _ the right choice. understood. back to your area of— the right choice. understood. back to your area of expertise. - the right choice. understood. back to your area of expertise. have i the right choice. understood. back| to your area of expertise. have any uk troops travelled to ukraine to fight? we understand a number have gone missing. can you update us on that? ., �* ~ ., ., , that? so, we don't know for sure the are that? so, we don't know for sure they are in _ that? so, we don't know for sure they are in ukraine _ that? so, we don't know for sure they are in ukraine yet. - that? so, we don't know for sure they are in ukraine yet. we - that? so, we don't know for surej they are in ukraine yet. we know that? so, we don't know for sure l they are in ukraine yet. we know a number— they are in ukraine yet. we know a number have gone absent without leave _ number have gone absent without leave and — number have gone absent without leave and they believe is their intent — leave and they believe is their intent is — leave and they believe is their intent is to go to ukraine to do that _ intent is to go to ukraine to do that that— intent is to go to ukraine to do that. that is illegal. it is illegal

to be _ that. that is illegal. it is illegal to be absent without leaving the first place, and it is illegal go and participate in the fight there. how many— and participate in the fight there. how many are there? well, three or four. _ how many are there? well, three or four. we _ how many are there? well, three or four, we think, is the number presented _ four, we think, is the number presented to me. to be clear, if you are a _ presented to me. to be clear, if you are a serving— presented to me. to be clear, if you are a serving member of the british armed _ are a serving member of the british armed forces watching this this morning. — armed forces watching this this morning. i— armed forces watching this this morning, i get it. i have it tested on my— morning, i get it. i have it tested on my first — morning, i get it. i have it tested on my first day of service, as you have. _ on my first day of service, as you have. that — on my first day of service, as you have, that you will fight for what is have, that you will fight for what is right— have, that you will fight for what is right in— have, that you will fight for what is right in the world and stand up against _ is right in the world and stand up against evil. there is a thing that pulls— against evil. there is a thing that pulls on— against evil. there is a thing that pulls on you as a soldier that makes you want— pulls on you as a soldier that makes you want to — pulls on you as a soldier that makes you want to go and do the right thing — you want to go and do the right thing the _ you want to go and do the right thing. the right thing to do right now is— thing. the right thing to do right now is to — thing. the right thing to do right now is to report for duty and to make _ now is to report for duty and to make sure _ now is to report for duty and to make sure that you participate to the best— make sure that you participate to the best of your abilities in protecting the uk homeland and operating within the nato alliance to protect nato's eastern flanks. the uk _ to protect nato's eastern flanks. the uk government is doing all it can to _ the uk government is doing all it can to provide aid to the ukrainian nation _ can to provide aid to the ukrainian nation. president zelensky has said of the _ nation. president zelensky has said of the uk _ nation. president zelensky has said of the uk is — nation. president zelensky has said of the uk is ukraine's best friend

in the _ of the uk is ukraine's best friend in the world. we are doing everything we can to give the ukrainian _ everything we can to give the ukrainian armed forces what they need _ ukrainian armed forces what they need. nobody should be travelling to ukraine _ need. nobody should be travelling to ukraine to _ need. nobody should be travelling to ukraine to fight in this conflict. that— ukraine to fight in this conflict. that is— ukraine to fight in this conflict. that is not— ukraine to fight in this conflict. that is not helpful. we appreciate your time this morning. james heappey, the armed forces minister. ., , ., minister. the time now is 7:47am. carol is the — minister. the time now is 7:47am. carol is the weather. _ carol is the weather. good morning. good morning. this weather watchers picture really does tell the story. some sunshine around this morning with some cloud, and we also have some showers in the forecast. it is not particularly cold, except across western scotland and northern ireland, where there has been some frost and some fog first thing. we have got this weather front, which is a fairly weak affair. it is squeezed between high—pressure and low—pressure. in between then we are pulling on this southerly flow, which means we are pulling it milder air as represented by the yellow. this weather front is pushing north and east through the day. it has a fair bit of cloud on it and some

spots of rain. some showers in parts of the south—east. showers and drizzle in wales and northern ireland. that will clear for most and it will brighten up in northern ireland. you will see some sunshine as we build on these first saw the starving in. windy wherever you are. a noticeable breeze. temperatures nine to 15 degrees. this evening and overnight a fair bit of cloud. showers in the channel islands moving northwards, becoming more widespread, but still fairly patchy. by widespread, but still fairly patchy. by the end of the night we have a new weather front coming in to the south—west. that is going to be accompanied by gusty winds. once again, a mild night. that is cold certainly across north—west scotland and northern ireland as it was this morning. —— not as cold. tomorrow, more weatherfronts morning. —— not as cold. tomorrow, more weather fronts coming in. morning. —— not as cold. tomorrow, more weatherfronts coming in. there are going to be bringing in some heavy rain. across the board tomorrow it is going to be a windy day. some brightness, some sunshine and some showers to start. the wind is strong in the south—west. the

rain putting north east through the day. that will be followed by some showers which could be quite lively with some hail and some thunder and lightning. wherever you are, we have got gusty winds. temperatures are still mild for the time of the year. a little notch or two down in today. carol, thank you. jane, you are going to paint a picture of a big game, big stars and a big result. how about that? all of the above, yes. it's widely known that paris saint—germain are desperate to win the champions league. they have thrown money at this. including buying one of the best players in the world, just in the background, lionel messi. but last night, the player opposite him, karim benzema, scored a hat—trick to put paris saint—germain out of the competition. it was huge. there was another match. manchester city were playing too. not quite as exciting. a goalless draw with sporting lisbon was enough to spend them through to the quarterfinals. —— send them

through. to get seems like this at real madrid, it has to be special. they have just come from two down to beat football's super rich, inspired by karen benzema, now 34—year—old striker. all this in a match set up for a different frenchman. kylian mbappe gave psg the first leg lead. heery was to double it. with each match the case grows he is the best in the world. but for all the psg talent, there is frailty. at the back they pondered and gave benzema his first chance. a tap in broad real madrid back in it. now their home crowd asked for more. benzema has thrived off the burner by your for 13 years, but now this night would be a standard. —— burn about. that goal brought them level a 2—2. ten seconds from the kick—off, this.

for real madrid, it meant so much, but so too for paris. they had spent billions to win this prize and once more they miss out. it is the title too manchester city want the most. they now greater challenges lie ahead. they led sporting 5—0 on aggregate, so they could sit back and make it through. a scoreless draw felt so far from the drama at madrid. even from the champions league's most successful club, this was some night. joe lynskey, bbc news. the first test between england and the west indies is evenly balanced going into day three in antigua. jonny bairstow�*s century helped the tourists to 311 in theirfirst innings. the hosts began well, but soon slipped from 83 without loss to 127 for 4 in reply. intermittent showers saw the covers go on and off and west indies finished the day 202 for four, trailing england by 109 runs.

on any wicked, you have to try to find wickets. it is no good complaining. we are trying our best to find little holes, an opening. the reverse swing was a part in it at one point. if we could have capitalised on that, we could have had the west indies six, seven, eight down. if we can keep the ball moving in the morning, although it is not happening fast off the wicket, if we can keep it moving it gives us a chance to get those wickets. the controversy continues with former tennis world number one novak djokovic, who's confirmed he won't be allowed to play at the indian wells tournament, which starts today. the 20—time grand slam winner admitted recently that he's not vaccinated against covid—i9. djokovic tweeted last night that — as regulations in the united states weren't changing — he would be unable to travel there. he's also pulled out of the forthcoming miami open. djokovic clearly doesn't want the fiasco that we saw before the

australian open. not playing in america. thank you. here on breakfast, we've been following the story of tony hudgell, the young, double amputee who's raised more than a million pounds for charity. tony's mum, paula, has been campaigning for tougher sentences for those who abuse children — something tony suffered at the hands of his birth parents — and for the creation of a child cruelty register. zoe conway reports. i think it is made of horse wool. what you think of that?- i think it is made of horse wool. what you think of that? when tony hudrell what you think of that? when tony hudgell made _ what you think of that? when tony hudgell made dominic— what you think of that? when tony hudgell made dominic raab - what you think of that? when tony hudgell made dominic raab last i hudgell made dominic raab last november, it wasn't always entirely clear who was in charge. you november, it wasn't always entirely clear who was in charge.— clear who was in charge. you don't know how — clear who was in charge. you don't know how to _ clear who was in charge. you don't know how to work _ clear who was in charge. you don't know how to work that. _ clear who was in charge. you don't know how to work that. it - clear who was in charge. you don't know how to work that. it was - clear who was in charge. you don't know how to work that. it was at i know how to work that. it was at this meeting _ know how to work that. it was at this meeting that _ know how to work that. it was at this meeting that his _ know how to work that. it was at this meeting that his parents, i know how to work that. it was at i this meeting that his parents, paula hoddle and mark, was told the government would pass a law to ensure tougher sentencing for people convicted of child go to, something that had long campaigned for. known as tony's law, it should be on the

statute books this month. but that wasn't all they talked about. paula hoddle also told thejustice secretary she wanted to see a child cruelty register. lute secretary she wanted to see a child cruelty register.— cruelty register. we need a child cruelty register. we need a child cruelty register. _ cruelty register. we need a child cruelty register. she _ cruelty register. we need a child cruelty register. she says - cruelty register. we need a child cruelty register. she says it - cruelty register. we need a child. cruelty register. she says it would work like the _ cruelty register. she says it would work like the six _ cruelty register. she says it would work like the six offenders - work like the six offenders register. people and it would not be able to work with children and any children of their own will be taken into care. in a letter to pollard this week, dominic raab doesn't committed to bringing in a register, but he does say that the idea is now being considered as part of an official safeguarding review. looking into the deaths of i6—month—old star hobson and six—year—old arthur live injoe six—year—old arthur live in joe hughes, six—year—old arthur live injoe hughes, both murdered. what difference could he register make? if you are unknown to the authorities and you are committing these _ authorities and you are committing these dreadful crimes, a register like this— these dreadful crimes, a register like this isn't going to help. but if you _ like this isn't going to help. but if you have _ like this isn't going to help. but if you have committed a crime like this before. — if you have committed a crime like this before, then it makes sense, doesn't _ this before, then it makes sense, doesn't it. — this before, then it makes sense, doesn't it, to stop somebody being put in _ doesn't it, to stop somebody being put in a _ doesn't it, to stop somebody being put in a position again where they

are at— put in a position again where they are at exposed to young children, even _ are at exposed to young children, even caring — are at exposed to young children, even caring for young children, even having _ even caring for young children, even having children of their own? you can see _ having children of their own? you can see what paula hoddle is trying to do _ can see what paula hoddle is trying to do. whether it will it prevent these _ to do. whether it will it prevent these attacks on the first place is quite _ these attacks on the first place is quite another matter. as a these attacks on the first place is quite another matter.— quite another matter. as a baby, tony hudgell— quite another matter. as a baby, tony hudgell was _ quite another matter. as a baby, tony hudgell was abused - quite another matter. as a baby, tony hudgell was abused by - quite another matter. as a baby, tony hudgell was abused by his. tony hudgell was abused by his biological parents. he suffered multiple organ failure, septicaemia, fractures to both thighs, lower legs, ankles, toes and thumbs. his legs, ankles, toes and thumbs. his legs had to be amputated. paul and mark began looking after him when he was a few months old. i seen mark began looking after him when he was a few months old.— was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking — was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the _ was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the other _ was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the other day, _ was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the other day, so - was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the other day, so i - was a few months old. i saw him on tv walking the other day, so i said, | tv walking the other day, so i said, i could do that.— i could do that. inspired by captain tom, who raised _ i could do that. inspired by captain tom, who raised millions- i could do that. inspired by captain tom, who raised millions by- i could do that. inspired by captain | tom, who raised millions by walking 100 times around his garden, only raised more than £i.5 100 times around his garden, only raised more than £1.5 million by walking ten kilometres around his local park. it's not hard to see why his parents find him so inspiring. and why there are so determined to try to protect as many children as

possible. zoe conway, bbc news. well, delighted to say that paula hudgelljoins us now. paula, good morning to you. whenever a campaign like this is under way, pushing for changes, changes that will make a difference to people, it's the little steps that make a difference. tell me how you feel now that dominic raab hasn't implicitly said he is correct mike lee support is there but he is looking into it he what does that mean? for is there but he is looking into it he what does that mean? for us, that is a hue he what does that mean? for us, that is a huge step — he what does that mean? for us, that is a huge step forward. _ he what does that mean? for us, that is a huge step forward. i _ he what does that mean? for us, that is a huge step forward. i mounted - he what does that mean? for us, that is a huge step forward. i mounted it l is a huge step forward. i mounted it to him _ is a huge step forward. i mounted it to him back— is a huge step forward. i mounted it to him back in november when i saw him. to him back in november when i saw him at— to him back in november when i saw him at least — to him back in november when i saw him. at least it is being taken seriously _ him. at least it is being taken seriously. i think everybody is quite — seriously. i think everybody is quite surprised there isn't already a child _ quite surprised there isn't already a child cruelty register. 50, you know. _ a child cruelty register. 50, you know. his — a child cruelty register. 50, you know, his letter of confidence there. — know, his letter of confidence there, that it's being passed over to the _ there, that it's being passed over

to the education secretary and the home _ to the education secretary and the home secretary, and that this review will be _ home secretary, and that this review will be carried out as well, it's 'ust will be carried out as well, it's just logical, really. we have a six offenders — just logical, really. we have a six offenders register yet we don't have a child _ offenders register yet we don't have a child cruelty register. —— sex offenders — a child cruelty register. —— sex offenders register. they go on to have _ offenders register. they go on to have more — offenders register. they go on to have more children, if they have been _ have more children, if they have been convicted of child crew to, yes. _ been convicted of child crew to, yes. that's _ been convicted of child crew to, yes, that's down to social services to keep _ yes, that's down to social services to keep track of them. but once they have finished their licence, they can go— have finished their licence, they can go off— have finished their licence, they can go off and live their own lives. they— can go off and live their own lives. they could — can go off and live their own lives. they could ends up baby—sitting your child and _ they could ends up baby—sitting your child and you willjust never know. and hopefully, you know, a register like this— and hopefully, you know, a register like this would prevent some of the cases— like this would prevent some of the cases in— like this would prevent some of the cases in future.— cases in future. paula, would this have prevented _ cases in future. paula, would this have prevented tony's _ cases in future. paula, would this have prevented tony's horrific i cases in future. paula, would this i have prevented tony's horrific abuse and injuries? ila. have prevented tony's horrific abuse and injuries?— and in'uries? no. it wouldn't have done and injuries? no. it wouldn't have done because _ and injuries? no. it wouldn't have done because they _ and injuries? no. it wouldn't have done because they hadn't - and injuries? no. it wouldn't have done because they hadn't been i done because they hadn't been convicted — done because they hadn't been convicted of child grow tv4. i mean, there _ convicted of child grow tv4. i mean, there were _ convicted of child grow tv4. i mean, there were lots of issues that should — there were lots of issues that should have raised a huge amount of

red flags. _ should have raised a huge amount of red flags, that should have actually prevented — red flags, that should have actually prevented what happened to tony. tony is _ prevented what happened to tony. tony is lucky. we can't change tony's— tony is lucky. we can't change tony's case. it was just after the case _ tony's case. it was just after the case in _ tony's case. it was just after the case in pushing for tony's law, speaking — case in pushing for tony's law, speaking to police officers and just trying _ speaking to police officers and just trying to _ speaking to police officers and just trying to find out how we can make these _ trying to find out how we can make these changes, that's when i was told there — these changes, that's when i was told there is now child cruelty register. and police have said it would _ register. and police have said it would actually make their lives easier— would actually make their lives easier if— would actually make their lives easier if there was. so, you know, sometimes — easier if there was. so, you know, sometimes when there has been instances. — sometimes when there has been instances, it can all be linked together~ _ instances, it can all be linked together-— instances, it can all be linked torether. . . ., , instances, it can all be linked torether. . . . , , ., together. paula, we have seen you here in this — together. paula, we have seen you here in this programme _ together. paula, we have seen you here in this programme many - together. paula, we have seen you l here in this programme many times, you are a friend of the programme, and we have made tony as well, who is an absolute charmer — i hope he is an absolute charmer — i hope he is well? is an absolute charmer - i hope he is well? . . is an absolute charmer - i hope he is well?_ your— is an absolute charmer - i hope he is well?_ your energy i is an absolute charmer - i hope he is well?_ your energy is j is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. _ is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. i— is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. i now— is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. i now come - is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. i now come and - is well? yes, he is. your energy is indefatigable. i now come and i i is well? yes, he is. your energy is i indefatigable. i now come and i hope you don't mind us sharing this, your own health, you are undergoing treatment at the moment. you have

had a significant diagnosis. i am always in all of people who managed to campaignfor always in all of people who managed to campaign for something so important when something so important when something so important is going on in their own lives. ., ., ., ., lives. how are you? yeah, come out 0k. last lives. how are you? yeah, come out ok- last month _ lives. how are you? yeah, come out ok. last month i— lives. how are you? yeah, come out ok. last month i was _ lives. how are you? yeah, come out ok. last month i was diagnosed - lives. how are you? yeah, come out| ok. last month i was diagnosed with bowel— 0k. last month i was diagnosed with bowel cancer. which was a huge shock to us. _ bowel cancer. which was a huge shock to us. i— bowel cancer. which was a huge shock to us. i have _ bowel cancer. which was a huge shock to us, i have to say. it has thrown everything — to us, i have to say. it has thrown everything in _ to us, i have to say. it has thrown everything in turmoil. i don't fear for myself — everything in turmoil. i don't fear for myself. of the biggest fear is for myself. of the biggest fear is for my— for myself. of the biggest fear is for my children. i am due to have surgery— for my children. i am due to have surgery tomorrow. and then have chemotherapy going forward. i am positive _ chemotherapy going forward. i am positive i— chemotherapy going forward. i am positive. i am going to stay positive _ positive. i am going to stay positive. tony's energy, his positivity. _ positive. tony's energy, his positivity, itjust oozes positive. tony's energy, his positivity, it just oozes out of him — positivity, it just oozes out of him i— positivity, it just oozes out of him i lap _ positivity, it just oozes out of him. i lap it up. campaigning for the child— him. i lap it up. campaigning for the child cruelty register will still happen. it is actually keeping me going — still happen. it is actually keeping me going as well, that drive for something. so, yeah. you me going as well, that drive for something. so, yeah. you say it as if it isjust another _ something. so, yeah. you say it as if it isjust another thing, _ something. so, yeah. you say it as if it is just another thing, another l if it is just another thing, another step. it is important and i know it has been playing on your mind and

yourfamilies. all the best with has been playing on your mind and your families. all the best with the surgery tomorrow and the recovery. we will speak again soon. all the best. ., ~ .., we will speak again soon. all the best. w ., ., we will speak again soon. all the best. ., ~ ., ~ , l, we will speak again soon. all the best. ., �*y _ stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today... international condemnation of russia after the bombing of a maternity

and children's hospital in the beseiged city of mariupol — the city's deputy mayor tells breakfast three people were killed, including a child aged six. there are awful numbers of this bombing. i am absolutely sure it is a war crime and genocide of ukraine as a nation. high—level talks are to take place today between the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia — their first since the invasion began. a direct plea from ukraine's ambassador to the uk, as he begs the government to relax visa rules for people fleeing the war, most of them women and children. i totally hope they're not posing any — any threat, especially terrorist threat to the uk. so that's why i hope and i beg that the procedures will be dropped and every bureaucratic red tape should be cancelled. millions of workers will be £1700 worse off unless the chancellor borrows billions more to help with the cost of living crisis.

without that, households face the biggest financial hit in half a century. good morning. a fairly mild day ahead. also fairly cloudy with spots of light rain and drizzle. it should brighten up in the west later. we should also see some sunshine in the south—east. all the details later in the programme. it's thursday the 10th of march. our main story. three people — including a six—year—old child — have been killed in the russian bombing of a maternity and children's hospital in the ukrainian city of mariupol, according to its deputy mayor. ukraine's president has accused russia of a "war crime". the explosion happened when a ceasefire was supposed to be in force in the area — to allow civilians to leave. the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia are expected to meet later — for their first face—to—face talks since the russian invasion began.

james reynolds reports. ukraine calls this strike, which hit a maternity hospital in mariupol, a war crime. it buried patients underneath the rubble. we confirmed information about 17 we confirmed information about 17 in'ured and affected people we confirmed information about 17 injured and affected people as pregnant women and doctors from the hospital. in the morning we received additional information that there are also three killed people, one of them is a child. for so many in this city, these buildings will have been the site of their happiest ever days, where they and then their children were born. that life, though, is now gone. the city of mariupol is besieged by russian forces. it's without food, water, electricity or gas. if a hospital is hit,

how can anywhere be safe? translation: we have not done, and would never do, _ anything like this war crime in any of the cities of the donetsk or lugansk regions, or of any region because we are people, but are you? the bombing of the maternity hospital is the final proof — proof that the genocide of ukrainians is taking place. europeans, you can't say that you didn't see what happened to ukrainians, what happened in mariupol with the people of mariupol. you saw, you know. in irpin, north of the capital kyiv, residents make the slow walk to safety. ukrainians here fear a renewed russian assault. more than two million people have now fled their country, the fastest exodus in europe since the second world war. we want to establish

the humanitarian corridors to allow people in and supplies for those ones who have stayed in besieged cities, you know, unfortunately in sort of medieval way. that's our priority number one, and we wanted to stop the war. we wanted to hear what they can come up with but we do not believe that there are some compromises can be given on our side. we've tried it for eight years to give all the compromises, and unfortunately it didn't work. they came with war against us and killing people as we speak. ukraine has put its points to russian negotiators in three ukraine's foreign minister will put his country's arguments directly to his country's arguments directly to his russia counterpart. it will be the highest level contact since the russian invasion began. james reynolds, bbc news. let's speak now to our kyiv correspondent james waterhouse.

let's start with the attack on the hospital in mariupol. we spoke to the deputy mayor earlier and he confirmed numbers.— the deputy mayor earlier and he confirmed numbers. yes, he did, didn't he? _ confirmed numbers. yes, he did, didn't he? it— confirmed numbers. yes, he did, didn't he? it paints _ confirmed numbers. yes, he did, didn't he? it paints a _ confirmed numbers. yes, he did, didn't he? it paints a bleak- confirmed numbers. yes, he did, l didn't he? it paints a bleak picture of what is happening to his city, to be honest with you. three people, including a six—year—old child killed in a repeated shelling by russian troops on children and maternity hospital in the city. weasel images of hollowed out buildings, windows that had been blown in red, walls had collapsed and pregnant women with blood on their faces walking out or being stretchered out. really moving stuff this morning. that is a symptom of what is a deepening crisis happening in mariupol. it is spending its ninth day under siege. the reason it

is under siege is because russian troops from the south are trying to link up the forces from the is and create an effective land corridor. what is standing on the way is mariupol. what we're seeing are repeated attempts of a temporary ceasefire to get people out in a north—westerly direction, repeated attempts failed. moscow continually accused of shelling the agreed route. it has denied targeting civilian areas in this way. we are getting stories of people who had been melting snow, tapping into central heating systems just to be able to drink water. they are running low on food and trapped under continuous shellfire, shells which are landing on residential areas. it is getting increasingly desperate in south—east location. that is the very tragic situation, another very tragic situation in mariupol. you are in kyiv, what is

the latest happening now? ukrainian forces here said _ the latest happening now? ukrainian forces here said they _ the latest happening now? ukrainian forces here said they have _ the latest happening now? ukrainian forces here said they have repelled, | forces here said they have repelled, they have launched a counter strike on russian forces which were advancing in the west and north—west of kyiv on the outskirts in a number of kyiv on the outskirts in a number of towns. in a place called irpin that has been another announcement of a temporary ceasefire to allow people to escape to essential kyiv where they either take shelter will move to southern or western parts of the country. most people can escape that, people are trapped in a neighbouring place because of the heavy fighting. we have seen heavy sheu heavy fighting. we have seen heavy shell strikes and mortar fire. heavy fighting. we have seen heavy shell strikes and mortarfire. there is also a hospital. we have spoken to staff who cannot get out. patients need treatment and they are very much stuck as well. it shows how things can vary. the deputy prime minister has just announced the continuation of the humanitarian

corridors in kyiv, in sumy. kharkiv and mariupol as well. in the south—east they had failed to this point. nevertheless renewed efforts today to try to add to the 40,000 plus ukrainians who have been able to evacuate from the heaviest fighting so far.— to evacuate from the heaviest fighting so far. to evacuate from the heaviest firrhtin so far. , . , ., . fighting so far. james, also, we are rroin to fighting so far. james, also, we are going to be — fighting so far. james, also, we are going to be talking _ fighting so far. james, also, we are going to be talking to _ fighting so far. james, also, we are going to be talking to a _ fighting so far. james, also, we are going to be talking to a diplomatic. going to be talking to a diplomatic editorjames landau shortly. how is it viewed the high—level talks taking place today? —— landale. they will be in the same room for that this is happening in turkey today. there has to be some hope around that, surely? there has to be some hope around that. surely?— that, surely? you are right in the sense this _ that, surely? you are right in the sense this is _ that, surely? you are right in the sense this is the _ that, surely? you are right in the sense this is the first _ that, surely? you are right in the sense this is the first time - that, surely? you are right in the sense this is the first time the i that, surely? you are right in the. sense this is the first time the two had met. the top diplomats from both countries. president erdogan has seen himself as a mediator in this, he is an ally of both russia and ukraine. the ukrainian representative has said his

expectations are low. he wants russian troops to pullback and the humanitarian crisis to be properly addressed. what this will has shown is the opposite has happened in quite a deadly way. no doubt about that. what russia wants, it had doubled down, saying it wants to militarisation of ukraine and crimea recognised as being part of russia and independence granted to the occupied territories in the east of ukraine. officials putting the talks together say there could be wiggle room on the demilitarisation in that they would accept that in the eastern areas. possible signs of a compromise but there is no letup in the fighting and expectations remain low. ., ~ the fighting and expectations remain low. . ,, , ., the fighting and expectations remain low. ., ~' , ., , the fighting and expectations remain low. . ,, i. , . let's go straight to the talks. this

is the first occasion for the two foreign ministers to be face to face. . . ., foreign ministers to be face to face. , , . , foreign ministers to be face to face. , ,., face. this is a significant day. it is a significant _ face. this is a significant day. it is a significant day. _ face. this is a significant day. it is a significant day. james - face. this is a significant day. it is a significant day. james was. is a significant day. james was right to say expectations are low. the ukrainian foreign minister said he had limited expectation as to what will come out of this primarily because nobody knows what the russians are coming to the table with. that is the really interesting question. the world's media have gathered for the small grain of hope but —— as i could that possibly, just possibly we might get signed today about whether or not either side is willing to at least explore the idea of a negotiated outcome. people on the ground will say it is absurd and ludicrous when hospitals are being attacked and the like and the fighting raging at such a scale at the moment. clearly there is an

expectation on both sides of the talks are worth having. at the most minimal level it could be simply the russians are coming here so it could be said they came here and tried anything more than that. if the russians have come here with nothing more —— something more to discuss it could be interesting. there may be a time when both sides say, is it possible to find some common ground? those talks we understand you to take place later on today. they are not sure of the exact time. many journalists are waiting the talks. let's get more now from our chief political correspondent, adam fleming, whojoins us from westminster. those talks happening over in antalya in turkey, refugees in mainland europe who are desperate to come to the uk and the government here is getting a lot of pressure, isn't it to clarify the process and

isn't it to clarify the process and is the process for those who are freeing ukraine.— is the process for those who are freeing ukraine. that's right. home office officials _ freeing ukraine. that's right. home office officials were _ freeing ukraine. that's right. home office officials were working - office officials were working overnight to make changes to the existing theatre scheme for ukrainian refugees coming to the uk, tojoin family members ukrainian refugees coming to the uk, to join family members who are already here or british people they are related to. —— visa scheme. it sounds like later this morning priti patel will go to parliament and present details of what is being described as a streamlined version of the system, something that was hinted at on this programme a few minutes ago by the armed. == hinted at on this programme a few minutes ago by the armed. -- armed forces minister. _ minutes ago by the armed. -- armed forces minister. the _ minutes ago by the armed. -- armed forces minister. the home _ minutes ago by the armed. -- armed forces minister. the home office - minutes ago by the armed. -- armed forces minister. the home office has indicated _ forces minister. the home office has indicated it— forces minister. the home office has indicated it is looking at expanding the programme and looking at a number— the programme and looking at a number of— the programme and looking at a number of policy checks they currently _ number of policy checks they currently have in place in order to make _ currently have in place in order to make the — currently have in place in order to make the process easier. the home secretary— make the process easier. the home secretary is — make the process easier. the home secretary is very much aware of the need _ secretary is very much aware of the need to— secretary is very much aware of the need to remove as much bureaucracy as she _

need to remove as much bureaucracy as she can— need to remove as much bureaucracy as she can she does have to balance that against — as she can she does have to balance that against risk and i know she will make — that against risk and i know she will make the right choice. it does sound like there _ will make the right choice. it does sound like there will _ will make the right choice. it does sound like there will be _ will make the right choice. it does sound like there will be changes l will make the right choice. it does| sound like there will be changes to the process. does that mean the paperwork will be less and wrestle easy to upload or the processing system will get bigger and have more people? we do not know. let's wait for the home secretary to give us the exact details later this morning. one thing that will not change as the need for applicants to provide biometrics, things like fingerprints. that will not change because the government thinks that is incredibly important for national security. in terms of other things we are hearing from the minister, he was confirming guided the uk was going to send anti—aircraft missiles to ukraine. if you are in the ukrainian government and you want nato to introduce a no—fly zone but nature is saying no because that would bring them potentially into direct conflict with russian forces, maybe anti—aircraft missiles is the

next best thing. we also got quite startlingly confirmation from the armed forces minister that three or four members of the british military have gone absent without leave to go and join the conflict. one other thing i have heard, you know we have been sending anti—tank missiles to ukraine for the last year or so, apparently ukrainians have told the brits that sometimes they shout god save the queen when they find there's missiles!— save the queen when they find there's missiles! thank you very much. let's go back to the question of people leaving ukraine and the problems they face along the way. yesterday we spoke to luke morgan and his desperate attempt to get a visa for the family of his wife.

for the past two weeks, like thousands of others, luke morgan has been trying to help his wife's family reached the uk after they fled the horrors of war in ukraine. turned back at calais, they were sent to a visa office in brussels and then paris. after travelling so far, luke left the six refugees in belgium while he pursued the applications in france. her dad's 67, her mum's 57. i met him outside the visa office in paris, where, at long last, there had been a breakthrough. it's just an overwhelming relief and a sense ofjustice, really. you know, the last week has been torturous. we haven't known who to call, where to go, where to look. i'll say it's better when i've got them in my hand and i'm going through the border to get on the eurostar. hi,julia. hello. yeah, i'm going to get the passports.

still sceptical after being stifled by red tape and reluctance. this was a rare piece of good news to be shared with his wife, julia, back in the uk. i'm going to get them in the next hour. bye. after what had once seemed impossible, progress was now rapid. luke was given the passports with visas and caught the first train to brussels. made it! julia's parents, her sister and two nephews would be allowed tojoin her in the uk. thoughts, of course, remain with those family members left behind, facing imminent danger as the russian attacks intensify. can you translate? she want to... ..to help ukrainian people. luke's dad, david, has been looking

after the family while his son has been fighting the system. i'm very proud of him, yeah, very proud. he's a strong man. i mean, just try and sum up the last couple of weeks. that's been hell, you know, just traumatic. yeah, just draining really. every day he's been going to the embassy and the visa... you know, and every day he's getting knocked back. and you know, today, thankfully, we had lots of help, lots of kind words from people at home. desperate to get home, luke and his in—laws set off for calais straight away, this time, sure of success. this is the story ofjust one family, and they realise how fortunate they've been to have luke's desire and determination not to be thwarted and how fortunate they are to have escaped where many millions of others remain trapped and in danger. john maguire, bbc news, brussels.

we can speak now tojohn, who joins us from brussels. very good morning to you. we know first—hand how tortuous the process can be. explain to us, a handful of people waiting outside that building. what is supposed to happen and what is the procedure? it is building. what is supposed to happen and what is the procedure?— and what is the procedure? it is one ofthe and what is the procedure? it is one of the these — and what is the procedure? it is one of the these application _ and what is the procedure? it is one of the these application centres. i of the these application centres. when you arrive at the building and if he were just to come here having not may contact before, this is a poster. we have a shot of it now just placed outside the door that says they have been overwhelmed, and unprecedented demand for visas from people wanting to escape from ukraine to gain a visa and access the uk. it gives a website address and tells people to follow the process before coming here. there are other these centres. you will remember there are really started earlier this week when the bbc were

in calais following that frankly ludicrous paper around calais where people were sent from pillar to post and then given a phone number or given an e—mail address to address to try to pursue, having been told there would be a visa application centre already set up in calais. there just was not. centre already set up in calais. therejust was not. people centre already set up in calais. there just was not. people were sent to other places as you saw yesterday. luke decided to take the battle on on his own. he contacted us at the bbc and his mp's office contacted... the centres are in brussels, also in paris where we met up brussels, also in paris where we met up with luke and other places around europe as well, mainland europe in various different countries where people can apply for the thesis. at the reflection on the last week really. —— visas. this is a drop in

the ocean. 2 million leaving ukraine, a fraction of those aiming to get to the uk. talking to people this morning, this office normally only open wednesday to friday. it will now open all week to try and speed up the process. some of the refugees we met in calais yesterday were starting to find their appointments were coming through, that there seem to be some light at the end of the tunnel. it has taken a while but the processes do now seem to be working. they will need to be tested and if they fail that test people will let us know and we will let you know.— will let you know. thank you very much. will let you know. thank you very much- we _ will let you know. thank you very much- we are — will let you know. thank you very much. we are sitting _ will let you know. thank you very much. we are sitting here - will let you know. thank you very much. we are sitting here in - will let you know. thank you very much. we are sitting here in the | much. we are sitting here in the studio with maria and jez. you have a story to tell about your own situation. this is all about how you got back to the uk. do you want to kick off the tail for us? jez

got back to the uk. do you want to kick off the tail for us?— kick off the tail for us? jez was orannin kick off the tail for us? jez was panning to _ kick off the tail for us? jez was panning to come _ kick off the tail for us? jez was panning to come to _ kick off the tail for us? jez was panning to come to kyiv - kick off the tail for us? jez was - panning to come to kyiv valentines. there was advice not to travel. you live in manchester. _ there was advice not to travel. you live in manchester. and you are a journalist in kyiv.— journalist in kyiv. after that advice, journalist in kyiv. after that advice. he _ journalist in kyiv. after that advice, he was saying he i journalist in kyiv. after that - advice, he was saying he would not fly and would not go against the advice. i booked a flight to poland and we spent eight and a half days there. after that, that was when putin came up with his speech about ukraine, it should not be allowed to exist, etc. when he recognised the independence of the so—called donetsk and luhansk republics, i thought it would be happy to go back to my home. it was too expensive to keep paying for accommodation. i flew to kyiv and he followed me. on the 23rd of february we ended up as

that night things started to escalate. it that night things started to escalate. ., . ., escalate. it was three o'clock in the morning — escalate. it was three o'clock in the morning uk— escalate. it was three o'clock in the morning uk time _ escalate. it was three o'clock in the morning uk time we - escalate. it was three o'clock in the morning uk time we knew . the morning uk time we knew president putin was invading ukraine. just pick up the story. you were in on the 23rd. that night the announcement happened. that were in on the 23rd. that night the announcement happened. that night we decided to stay — announcement happened. that night we decided to stay with _ announcement happened. that night we decided to stay with maria's _ announcement happened. that night we decided to stay with maria's father, i decided to stay with maria's father, who lives— decided to stay with maria's father, who lives maybe ten miles out of the centre _ who lives maybe ten miles out of the centre we _ who lives maybe ten miles out of the centre. we had an element of safety. slept very— centre. we had an element of safety. slept very peacefully through the i'll-ht slept very peacefully through the night and wake up to a barrage of messages — night and wake up to a barrage of messages saying a full—scale invasion— messages saying a full—scale invasion has happened. i wake maria up invasion has happened. i wake maria up very— invasion has happened. i wake maria up very sleepily and said, grab your bags. _ up very sleepily and said, grab your bags. we— up very sleepily and said, grab your bags, we need to get out of here, we need to— bags, we need to get out of here, we need to get— bags, we need to get out of here, we need to get out of the country. we embarked — need to get out of the country. we embarked on a very lengthy and total 40 hour— embarked on a very lengthy and total 40 hourjourney to get out. you embarked on a very lengthy and total 40 hourjourney to get out.— 40 hour 'ourney to get out. you try to ret 40 hourjourney to get out. you try to ret to 40 hourjourney to get out. you try to get to poland. — 40 hourjourney to get out. you try to get to poland, is _ 40 hourjourney to get out. you try to get to poland, is that _ 40 hourjourney to get out. you try to get to poland, is that right? i to get to poland, is that right? this is us going to poland again. we first went _

this is us going to poland again. we first went to — this is us going to poland again. we first went to western ukraine, lviv. it took _ first went to western ukraine, lviv. it took us _ first went to western ukraine, lviv. it took us six — first went to western ukraine, lviv. it took us six hours by car and then 23 hours _ it took us six hours by car and then 23 hours to— it took us six hours by car and then 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? _ 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? at _ 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? at first _ 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? at first it _ 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? at first it was i 23 hours to cross into poland. what was the scene? at first it was all i was the scene? at first it was all ri . ht. was the scene? at first it was all right- ouite _ was the scene? at first it was all right. quite joyous. _ was the scene? at first it was all right. quite joyous. after - was the scene? at first it was all i right. quite joyous. after queueing in the _ right. quite joyous. after queueing in the castle such a long time, they were _ in the castle such a long time, they were quite — in the castle such a long time, they were quite relieved. —— in the cars for such— were quite relieved. —— in the cars for such a — were quite relieved. —— in the cars for such a long time. the longer the weight— for such a long time. the longer the weight the _ for such a long time. the longer the weight the more impatient people became — weight the more impatient people became. people started to queue jump _ became. people started to queue jump it — became. people started to queue jump. it got very chaotic very quickly — jump. it got very chaotic very quickly. there was pushing and there was crushing. he quickly. there was pushing and there was crushing-— was crushing. he was saying they should ro was crushing. he was saying they should go first? _ was crushing. he was saying they should go first? there _ was crushing. he was saying they should go first? there was i was crushing. he was saying they should go first? there was the i should go first? there was the widely accepted _ should go first? there was the widely accepted argument i should go first? there was the| widely accepted argument that should go first? there was the - widely accepted argument that women and children should be given the priority — and children should be given the priority. they were trying to go through— priority. they were trying to go through first. also a big other

group. — through first. also a big other group, the international students. they were — group, the international students. they were trying to push forward as well _ they were trying to push forward as well those — they were trying to push forward as well. those arguments broke through between _ well. those arguments broke through between the two groups. | well. those arguments broke through between the two groups. i can well. those arguments broke through between the two groups.— between the two groups. i can only imarine between the two groups. i can only imagine how _ between the two groups. i can only imagine how stressful _ between the two groups. i can only imagine how stressful this - between the two groups. i can only imagine how stressful this must i between the two groups. i can only l imagine how stressful this must have been. you collapsed at one point. lute been. you collapsed at one point. we sent been. you collapsed at one point. we spent ten hours in this area. i suddenly— spent ten hours in this area. i suddenly felt i had no air to breathe _ suddenly felt i had no air to breathe. it was so crowded. imagining the worst concept. if i cannot— imagining the worst concept. if i cannot get out now i am not sure i will even _ cannot get out now i am not sure i will even be — cannot get out now i am not sure i will even be alive. it cannot get out now i am not sure i will even be alive.— cannot get out now i am not sure i will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork. — will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork. iust _ will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork. just get _ will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork, just get me _ will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork, just get me back. i will even be alive. it comes down to paperwork, just get me back. what| paperwork, just get me back. what hoops and channels did you have to go through?— go through? maria had applied as in-line with _ go through? maria had applied as in-line with advice _ go through? maria had applied as in-line with advice some - go through? maria had applied as in-line with advice some weeks i in—line with advice some weeks earlierfor her visitors in—line with advice some weeks earlier for her visitors visa to come to the uk. we were waiting on it, maria went to school and university in england and has many visitors visas stop it was not

anything to jump through those hoops. the visa had not appeared. the app showed it was en route to the application centre. essentially turns out the application may have been sent back to kyiv but kyiv was shut. we used the embassy, my mp was very supportive. his office was calling the home office in various media contacts also calling the home office to ask what was going on with the application. eventually we managed to get a visa waiver. not the formal paper these are but a visa waiver. —— paper these are. given stories about people who are being flat turned away, why did you get the visa waiver? her

being flat turned away, why did you get the visa waiver?— get the visa waiver? her visa had been approved — get the visa waiver? her visa had been approved by _ get the visa waiver? her visa had been approved by the _ get the visa waiver? her visa had been approved by the home i get the visa waiver? her visa had i been approved by the home office. they sent it to the these application centre for the preparation element and placing it in her passport. the visa in theory had already been accepted that without paperwork you cannot do anything. without paperwork you cannot do an hinr. ., without paperwork you cannot do an hin.. . ., . , anything. even hearing reassurances about how we _ anything. even hearing reassurances about how we are _ anything. even hearing reassurances about how we are awaiting _ anything. even hearing reassurances about how we are awaiting the i anything. even hearing reassurances about how we are awaiting the news| about how we are awaiting the news today from priti patel about her simplifying the system. you must find this very frustrating to hear. are there simple measures you know would make a difference?— would make a difference? firstly, staffinr. would make a difference? firstly, staffing- that _ would make a difference? firstly, staffing. that is _ would make a difference? firstly, staffing. that is the _ would make a difference? firstly, staffing. that is the big _ would make a difference? firstly, staffing. that is the big one. i would make a difference? firstly, staffing. that is the big one. we . staffing. that is the big one. we know the visa application centre is only open to five monday to friday, shut on a sunday. it is not enough and completely understand. ireland lets people in without a visa but still having security checks. all

the other countries are letting people and without a visa but still providing security checks. the government is putting hurdles in place and are making it harderfor people. there is no issue with that. your grandmother is still in ukraine and yourfather is your grandmother is still in ukraine and your father is in the territorial defence force. how are they? we talked to you about this journey. he had had to leave your home. i am aware of that. you are composed and together. how are your family? composed and together. how are your famil ? , ., ., composed and together. how are your famil ? , . . ., ., family? they are all right. i talk to them every _ family? they are all right. i talk to them every day, _ family? they are all right. i talk to them every day, every i family? they are all right. i talk to them every day, every other| family? they are all right. i talk- to them every day, every other day. my has _ to them every day, every other day. my has taken up arms protecting his territory _ my has taken up arms protecting his territory so— my has taken up arms protecting his territory. so far it has been fairly quiet _ territory. so far it has been fairly quiet where he is. i hope it stays calm _ quiet where he is. i hope it stays calm where _ quiet where he is. i hope it stays calm where he is. my mum and my brother— calm where he is. my mum and my brother and — calm where he is. my mum and my brother and my sister—in—law and my do. brother and my sister—in—law and my dog all— brother and my sister—in—law and my dog all stay— brother and my sister—in—law and my dog all stay together about an hour and a _ dog all stay together about an hour and a half—

dog all stay together about an hour and a half away from kyiv and so is my grandmother, just in a separate place _ my grandmother, just in a separate place she — my grandmother, just in a separate place. she is bedridden and cannot escape _ place. she is bedridden and cannot escape or— place. she is bedridden and cannot escape or leave because she has been in bed _ escape or leave because she has been in bed. ., i. ., escape or leave because she has been in bed. ., ., in bed. you say your dad has taken u . in bed. you say your dad has taken u- arms. in bed. you say your dad has taken up arms- what _ in bed. you say your dad has taken up arms. what does _ in bed. you say your dad has taken up arms. what does he _ in bed. you say your dad has taken up arms. what does he normally i in bed. you say your dad has taken i up arms. what does he normally do? what is hisjob? he is to be in finance — what is hisjob? he is to be in finance but— what is hisjob? he is to be in finance but he has been out of that for quite _ finance but he has been out of that for quite a — finance but he has been out of that for quite a while. he has written some _ for quite a while. he has written some books, he is quite religious. he was— some books, he is quite religious. he was very— some books, he is quite religious. he was very firm since 2014 when russia _ he was very firm since 2014 when russia invaded ukraine, he said if it is needed he will take up arms and protect territory. it was not news _ and protect territory. it was not news to — and protect territory. it was not news to me he is doing that now when the danger— news to me he is doing that now when the danger is — news to me he is doing that now when the danger is close to his home. how old is he? 59 — the danger is close to his home. how old is he? 59 turning _ the danger is close to his home. how old is he? 59 turning 60 _ the danger is close to his home. how old is he? 59 turning 60 this - the danger is close to his home. how old is he? 59 turning 60 this year. i old is he? 59 turning 60 this year. i really appreciate _ old is he? 59 turning 60 this year. i really appreciate you _ old is he? 59 turning 60 this year. i really appreciate you coming i old is he? 59 turning 60 this year. i really appreciate you coming to l i really appreciate you coming to tell your story because people are trying to build up a picture.-

trying to build up a picture. thank ou. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. specific good morning. a cloudy start to the day. for most of us it has been mild. unsettled with rain at times, breezy or windy at times but remaining mild. some showers in the south—east of england this morning. they are across wales and northern ireland. we still have some showers in western scotland. you can see the extent of the cloud cover. it is a breezy day today rather than a windy one. some of us will see some sunshine, particularly in the west and also across the south—east. temperatures ranging from 90 potentially 15 or 16 degrees. the seasonal between eight and ten north to south. if you are out of mid afternoon you could catch some showers in the channel as well. but for a county, for east anglia, you could see some sunshine as you well in anglesey and the isle of man. northern ireland brightening up too.

an old weather front draped across scotland. still producing some thick cloud and spots of rain. that extends through parts of eastern ingot. this evening and overnight we will have quite a bit of cloud. showers from the channel islands moving further north. the winds are strengthening, heralding the arrival of a new weather front bringing some rain. one mild night in prospect across north—west scotland and northern ireland, where it was such a cold start to the day today. into tomorrow, a fair bit of cloud, some showers, brighter breaks. the rain will continue to push north—eastward. behind it, a lot of showers, some heavy and thundery with some hail. wherever you are it will be windy. temperatures down a touch on today. still mild for the time of the year. thank you. breakfast is on bbc one until 9:15am today, after which it's morning live.

gethin and sam can tell us what's on today's programme. coming up on morning live. it was something we all did more of during covid, but now there's a new warning from health officials to keep washing our hands after outbreaks of the vomiting bug, norovirus. with cases up 48% in recent weeks — dr punam has some advice. norovirus is highly infectious but usually passes in a couple of days. i'll tell you how to keep it contained to stop you spreading it to your family and the test you can do to check you're not dehydrated. and, we talk about it a lot on the show, with the price of our weekly shop rising at the fastest rate in over a decade, mark lane is here to show us how to save money by getting back to basics and growing fresh veggies like radishes, onions and even lettuce at home — and you don't need a garden to do it! and staying with food, we're bringing you a lovely story about how, in the toughest of times, one act of kindness from a woman called hayley, sharing her home

cooked meals means no one in her community has to go hungry. also, ahead of this weekend's bafta's red carpet host, tom allen will share how he plans to bag an interview with leonardo di'caprio using a selection of british crisps! and maisie smith is back for today's strictly fitness. she's teaching us a move from the charleston to work out our arms. see you at 9:15am. thank you. time now to get the news where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm victoria hollins. a london charity has accused the government of treating immigrant women who escape domestic abuse as second class citizens. immigrants who are not married to british citizens are subject to the no recourse to public funds

rule, which states they cannot access most forms of welfare benefits and social housing. the charity southall black sisters wants to see that change. it's this level of racism and sexism. you know, it's this anti—immigrant, hostile agenda which is really feeding the second class provision for migrant women. well, in a statement, the home office said it is committed to supporting all victims of domestic abuse, regardless of their immigration status — and that it had worked closely with southall black sisters. nearly half a million pounds will be made available to increase covid vaccination take—up in luton. only 40% of its population have had their booster, and three in ten are yet to receive their firstjab. the council says that those under 25 years old are less likely to have been vaccinated, along with those in some south asian and eastern european communities. converting some of central london's empty offices and shops into homes could help the capital recoverfrom covid, but it should be done carefully.

that's according to the centre for london think—tank, which says that so—called permitted development could create affordable homes in central london. but it warned that they could be poor quality and lead to social tension. a giant puppet of a nine—year—old refugee girl will lay flowers outside the ukrainian embassy later today, in a show of support. the puppet is called little amal, and she's been designed to highlight the plight of child refugees. last year she travelled 5,000 miles across eight countries well, if you're heading out on public transport this morning, this is how tfl services are looking right now. onto the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. it's another reasonably mild start this morning. temperatures mid to high single figures first thing. this front brings a little more cloud to us today. with that, one or two spots of rain potentially first thing this morning. it's largely dry throughout, but bright in the east. a bit of sunshine there. for the west, that cloud

is going to thicken towards the end of the afternoon. the wind strengthens today as well. temperatures reaching 1a celsius. as we head through the night we still have a fair amount of cloud. spots of light rain, spots of drizzle. the minimum temperature still very mild, between seven and nine celsius. that wind will continue to strengthen. for friday, another cold front makes more progress east, bringing outbreaks of rain through tomorrow. some could be quite heavy, especially as we head through the afternoon, after a dry and bright start. we could also hear, later on in the day, a rumble or two of thunder, as showers follow. temperatures tomorrow getting up to 12 celsius. as we head into the weekend, it's looking like a drier day for saturday, with some spells of sunshine. more rain for sunday and a dry day once again for monday. midweek next week, temperatures are set to get warmer. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now.

good morning, you're watching breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. we need to talk about the cost of living crisis and how much we should be looking forward in terms of increased costs for us. yes, some number crunching has been done~ _ yes, some number crunching has been done~ a _ yes, some number crunching has been done~ a stark— yes, some number crunching has been done. a stark figure has emerged. it's a stark figure that one — £1700 worse off for those on an average wage in the public sector if no help is offered. that is from the institute for fiscal— that is from the institute for fiscal studies, respected think tank — fiscal studies, respected think tank. that is the figure they have come _ tank. that is the figure they have come up — tank. that is the figure they have come up with. good morning. gas and electricity bills, petrol costs, the prices we pay in the shops. inflation — the cost of living — is going up and russia's invasion of ukraine is going to make things worse~ _ today, a group of trusted, independent experts — the institute for fiscal studies — says unless the chancellor

borrows billions more, households face the biggest financial hit since the 1970s. inflation means nurses, teachers and other public sector workers are facing a pay cut of more than £1700 unless the chancellor spends ten billion on pay rises that keep up with the cost of living. then there are soaring energy bills. the government already pledged £9 billion to help with that — but higher prices mean it would now take 21.5 billion to deliver the same level of support to households. every average earner is now expected to be £800 worse off. we were hoping for a really boring spring statement. in fact, rishi sunak said back in october he wasn't going to do anything in march, but with the huge spike in inflation that we are getting, with the massive increase in energy prices,

he is going to probably be forced into doing something to help households, and probably also to give more money to some of the government departments that he gave money to back in october, when he didn't realise how high prices were going to go. the real worry for the chancellor is when we had covid, we had no choice. we really had no choice other than to spend huge amounts of money. now this is a really big decision moment for him. easy going to bail out households and give more money to public sector workers? —— is he going to bail out? or is he going to keep a tight rein on borrowing and say, tough, some people are going to be made worse off by this? that will tell us a lot more about what sort of chance and there sort of government we really have got. i don't know which where he is going to go on this. the politics, i think probably .1 way, and i give you the other. joining me now is ed miliband,

the shadow climate and net zero secretary. good morning. let's start with the cost of— good morning. let's start with the cost of living. we have heard about it. cost of living. we have heard about it some _ cost of living. we have heard about it some of— cost of living. we have heard about it. some of the priority is the chancellor has to grapple with. 10 billion_ chancellor has to grapple with. 10 billion needed for public sector pay rises, _ billion needed for public sector pay rises, an— billion needed for public sector pay rises, an extra 12.5 billion needed for energy— rises, an extra 12.5 billion needed for energy bills. what would labour be prioritising?— be prioritising? let's start with the energy. — be prioritising? let's start with the energy. the _ be prioritising? let's start with the energy, the area _ be prioritising? let's start with the energy, the area i - be prioritising? let's start with the energy, the area i cover. l be prioritising? let's start with i the energy, the area i cover. we should _ the energy, the area i cover. we should have _ the energy, the area i cover. we should have a _ the energy, the area i cover. we should have a windfall— the energy, the area i cover. we should have a windfall tax - the energy, the area i cover. we should have a windfall tax on - the energy, the area i cover. we| should have a windfall tax on the oil and _ should have a windfall tax on the oil and gas — should have a windfall tax on the oil and gas companies. _ should have a windfall tax on the oil and gas companies. i- should have a windfall tax on the oil and gas companies. i think. should have a windfall tax on the i oil and gas companies. i think that case was _ oil and gas companies. i think that case was strong _ oil and gas companies. i think that case was strong before _ oil and gas companies. i think that case was strong before the - oil and gas companies. i think that case was strong before the russia | case was strong before the russia ukraine _ case was strong before the russia ukraine crisis _ case was strong before the russia ukraine crisis. it _ case was strong before the russia ukraine crisis. it has _ case was strong before the russia ukraine crisis. it has got - case was strong before the russia ukraine crisis. it has got even - ukraine crisis. it has got even stronger— ukraine crisis. it has got even stronger because _ ukraine crisis. it has got even stronger because we - ukraine crisis. it has got even stronger because we are - ukraine crisis. it has got even i stronger because we are seeing ukraine crisis. it has got even - stronger because we are seeing gas and oil— stronger because we are seeing gas and oil prices — stronger because we are seeing gas and oil prices going _ stronger because we are seeing gas and oil prices going through - stronger because we are seeing gas and oil prices going through the - and oil prices going through the root _ and oil prices going through the root they— and oil prices going through the root they are _ and oil prices going through the roof. they are making - and oil prices going through the roof. they are making billions. and oil prices going through the | roof. they are making billions in profits — roof. they are making billions in profits let's _ roof. they are making billions in profits. let's tax _ roof. they are making billions in profits. let's tax them - roof. they are making billions in profits. let's tax them to - roof. they are making billions in profits. let's tax them to give i roof. they are making billions in- profits. let's tax them to give much more _ profits. let's tax them to give much more help— profits. let's tax them to give much more help to — profits. let's tax them to give much more help to people _ profits. let's tax them to give much more help to people across - profits. let's tax them to give much more help to people across the - profits. let's tax them to give much i more help to people across the board by getting _ more help to people across the board by getting rid — more help to people across the board by getting rid of— more help to people across the board by getting rid of vat— more help to people across the board by getting rid of vat on _ more help to people across the board by getting rid of vat on energy - by getting rid of vat on energy bills _ by getting rid of vat on energy bills and — by getting rid of vat on energy bills. and more _ by getting rid of vat on energy bills. and more help _ by getting rid of vat on energy bills. and more help targeted i by getting rid of vat on energyl bills. and more help targeted at those _ bills. and more help targeted at those who— bills. and more help targeted at those who need _ bills. and more help targeted at those who need the _ bills. and more help targeted at those who need the help - bills. and more help targeted at those who need the help of - bills. and more help targeted at those who need the help of the i bills. and more help targeted at - those who need the help of the most, with something — those who need the help of the most, with something called _ those who need the help of the most, with something called the _ those who need the help of the most, with something called the warm - those who need the help of the most, i with something called the warm homes discount _ with something called the warm homes discount we _ with something called the warm homes discount. we think— with something called the warm homes discount. we think we _ with something called the warm homes discount. we think we can— with something called the warm homes discount. we think we can have - with something called the warm homes discount. we think we can have a - discount. we think we can have a fully— discount. we think we can have a fully funded — discount. we think we can have a fully funded packets. _ discount. we think we can have a fully funded packets. we - discount. we think we can have a fully funded packets. we put- discount. we think we can have ai fully funded packets. we put that forward — fully funded packets. we put that forward we _ fully funded packets. we put that forward. we think— fully funded packets. we put that forward. we think it— fully funded packets. we put that forward. we think it can - fully funded packets. we put that forward. we think it can really. fully funded packets. we put that i forward. we think it can really help to alleviate — forward. we think it can really help to alleviate some _ forward. we think it can really help to alleviate some of _ forward. we think it can really help to alleviate some of the _ forward. we think it can really help to alleviate some of the pain - forward. we think it can really helpl to alleviate some of the pain people are going _ to alleviate some of the pain people are going to— to alleviate some of the pain people are going to be— to alleviate some of the pain people

are going to be facing. _ to alleviate some of the pain people are going to be facing.— to alleviate some of the pain people are going to be facing. however much are going to be facing. however much a windfall tax — are going to be facing. however much a windfall tax would _ are going to be facing. however much a windfall tax would raise, _ are going to be facing. however much a windfall tax would raise, by - a windfall tax would raise, by definition it is a one—off. if you are talking _ definition it is a one—off. if you are talking about funding pay rises for people who are struggling, those pay rises _ for people who are struggling, those pay rises need to be paid for year after— pay rises need to be paid for year after year — pay rises need to be paid for year afteryear. how pay rises need to be paid for year after year. how do you pay for them after year. how do you pay for them after the _ after year. how do you pay for them after the first year? the after year. how do you pay for them after the first year?— after the first year? the windfall tax is targeted _ after the first year? the windfall tax is targeted that _ after the first year? the windfall tax is targeted that energy - after the first year? the windfall tax is targeted that energy bills. pubiic— tax is targeted that energy bills. public sector— tax is targeted that energy bills. public sector workers _ tax is targeted that energy bills. public sector workers do - tax is targeted that energy bills. public sector workers do need i tax is targeted that energy bills. public sector workers do need a | tax is targeted that energy bills. i public sector workers do need a fair pay settlement _ public sector workers do need a fair pay settlement. some _ public sector workers do need a fair pay settlement. some of— public sector workers do need a fair pay settlement. some of the - public sector workers do need a fairl pay settlement. some of the figures will be _ pay settlement. some of the figures will be going — pay settlement. some of the figures will be going up _ pay settlement. some of the figures will be going up he _ pay settlement. some of the figures will be going up. he will— pay settlement. some of the figures will be going up. he will get- pay settlement. some of the figures will be going up. he will get more i will be going up. he will get more from _ will be going up. he will get more from vat— will be going up. he will get more from vat receipts. _ will be going up. he will get more from vat receipts. he _ will be going up. he will get more from vat receipts. he needs - will be going up. he will get more from vat receipts. he needs to l will be going up. he will get more i from vat receipts. he needs to have fair pay— from vat receipts. he needs to have fair pay rises — from vat receipts. he needs to have fair pay rises for _ from vat receipts. he needs to have fair pay rises for public _ from vat receipts. he needs to have fair pay rises for public sector- fair pay rises for public sector workers _ fair pay rises for public sector workers they— fair pay rises for public sector workers. they faced - fair pay rises for public sector workers. they faced ten - fair pay rises for public sector| workers. they faced ten years fair pay rises for public sector. workers. they faced ten years of austerity, — workers. they faced ten years of austerity, often _ workers. they faced ten years of austerity, often pay— workers. they faced ten years of austerity, often pay freezes, - workers. they faced ten years of| austerity, often pay freezes, and workers. they faced ten years of. austerity, often pay freezes, and he has to— austerity, often pay freezes, and he has to make — austerity, often pay freezes, and he has to make those _ austerity, often pay freezes, and he has to make those numbers - austerity, often pay freezes, and he has to make those numbers add - austerity, often pay freezes, and hei has to make those numbers add up. and he _ has to make those numbers add up. and he can — has to make those numbers add up. and he can we _ has to make those numbers add up. and he can. we can't— has to make those numbers add up. and he can. we can't keep - has to make those numbers add up. | and he can. we can't keep squeezing public— and he can. we can't keep squeezing public sector— and he can. we can't keep squeezing public sector pay~ _ and he can. we can't keep squeezing public sector pay. if— and he can. we can't keep squeezing public sector pay-— public sector pay. if the option is to borrow more, _ public sector pay. if the option is to borrow more, would _ public sector pay. if the option is to borrow more, would you - public sector pay. if the option is to borrow more, would you do i public sector pay. if the option is i to borrow more, would you do that, at a time _ to borrow more, would you do that, at a time when interest rates may be about— at a time when interest rates may be about to _ at a time when interest rates may be about to go _ at a time when interest rates may be about to go up?— about to go up? let's look at the borrowin: about to go up? let's look at the borrowing numbers. _ about to go up? let's look at the borrowing numbers. we - about to go up? let's look at the borrowing numbers. we need - about to go up? let's look at the borrowing numbers. we need to| about to go up? let's look at the . borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt— borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt falling. _ borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt falling. labour— borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt falling. labour has - borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt falling. labour has a - borrowing numbers. we need to see the debt falling. labour has a clear. the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment — the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment to— the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment to see _ the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment to see that. - the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment to see that. but - the debt falling. labour has a clear commitment to see that. but i - commitment to see that. but i believe — commitment to see that. but i believe within— commitment to see that. but i believe within that _

commitment to see that. but i believe within that clear- commitment to see that. but i believe within that clear rule, i commitment to see that. but i . believe within that clear rule, we can have — believe within that clear rule, we can have fair— believe within that clear rule, we can have fair funding _ believe within that clear rule, we can have fair funding for- believe within that clear rule, we can have fair funding for public. can have fair funding for public sector— can have fair funding for public sector workers. _ can have fair funding for public sector workers.— can have fair funding for public sector workers. what do you think would be a — sector workers. what do you think would be a fair _ sector workers. what do you think would be a fair pay _ sector workers. what do you think would be a fair pay rise _ sector workers. what do you think would be a fair pay rise to - sector workers. what do you think would be a fair pay rise to i - sector workers. what do you think would be a fair pay rise to i am . sector workers. what do you think| would be a fair pay rise to i am not going _ would be a fair pay rise to i am not going to _ would be a fair pay rise to i am not going to pick a figure out of the air. ., , going to pick a figure out of the air. . , ., ., “ going to pick a figure out of the air. . , ., ., ,, ., _ air. that will be looked at by the review body- _ air. that will be looked at by the review body. public _ air. that will be looked at by the review body. public sector - air. that will be looked at by the review body. public sector pay i air. that will be looked at by the - review body. public sector pay needs to respond _ review body. public sector pay needs to respond to — review body. public sector pay needs to respond to the _ review body. public sector pay needs to respond to the cost _ review body. public sector pay needs to respond to the cost of _ review body. public sector pay needs to respond to the cost of living. - to respond to the cost of living. let's _ to respond to the cost of living. let's focus _ to respond to the cost of living. let's focus on _ to respond to the cost of living. let's focus on energy— to respond to the cost of living. let's focus on energy costs. - to respond to the cost of living. i let's focus on energy costs. real pressure — let's focus on energy costs. real pressure on _ let's focus on energy costs. real pressure on households. it is only going _ pressure on households. it is only going to _ pressure on households. it is only going to be — pressure on households. it is only going to be made worse by cutting off russian oil and gas imports. how do you _ off russian oil and gas imports. how do you protect them from further price _ do you protect them from further price rises— do you protect them from further price rises in the months and years ahead? _ price rises in the months and years ahead? ~ ., price rises in the months and years ahead? ~ . , price rises in the months and years ahead? ~ ., , , ahead? what we need is green energy. we need to go — ahead? what we need is green energy. we need to go much _ ahead? what we need is green energy. we need to go much further— ahead? what we need is green energy. we need to go much further and - ahead? what we need is green energy. we need to go much further and most| we need to go much further and most faster— we need to go much further and most faster on— we need to go much further and most faster on green — we need to go much further and most faster on green energy. _ we need to go much further and most faster on green energy. we _ we need to go much further and most faster on green energy. we need - we need to go much further and most faster on green energy. we need to l faster on green energy. we need to have onshore — faster on green energy. we need to have onshore wind. _ faster on green energy. we need to have onshore wind. we _ faster on green energy. we need to have onshore wind. we currently. faster on green energy. we need to l have onshore wind. we currently have a ban _ have onshore wind. we currently have a ban on _ have onshore wind. we currently have a ban on onshore _ have onshore wind. we currently have a ban on onshore wind, _ have onshore wind. we currently have a ban on onshore wind, effectively. i a ban on onshore wind, effectively. that could — a ban on onshore wind, effectively. that could help— a ban on onshore wind, effectively. that could help us, _ a ban on onshore wind, effectively. that could help us, it _ a ban on onshore wind, effectively. that could help us, it could - that could help us, it could eliminate _ that could help us, it could eliminate russian- that could help us, it could eliminate russian gas - that could help us, it could i eliminate russian gas imports that could help us, it could - eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple — eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple of— eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple of years. _ eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple of years. we _ eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple of years. we need - eliminate russian gas imports in the next couple of years. we need to - next couple of years. we need to move _ next couple of years. we need to move forward _ next couple of years. we need to move forward on _ next couple of years. we need to move forward on nuclear. - next couple of years. we need to i move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are _ move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are setting _ move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are setting out _ move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are setting out a _ move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are setting out a funded - move forward on nuclear. crucially, we are setting out a funded plan i we are setting out a funded plan today— we are setting out a funded plan today to — we are setting out a funded plan today to invest _ we are setting out a funded plan today to invest 60 _ we are setting out a funded plan today to invest 60 billion - we are setting out a funded plan today to invest 60 billion over. we are setting out a funded plani today to invest 60 billion over the next ten _ today to invest 60 billion over the next ten years _ today to invest 60 billion over the next ten years in _

today to invest 60 billion over the next ten years in home _ today to invest 60 billion over the next ten years in home energy- next ten years in home energy insulation _ next ten years in home energy insulation. that— next ten years in home energy insulation. that could - next ten years in home energy insulation. that could help- next ten years in home energy insulation. that could help 19' insulation. that could help 19 million — insulation. that could help 19 million households— insulation. that could help 19 million households across - insulation. that could help 19| million households across our country — million households across our country it _ million households across our country. it could _ million households across our country. it could cut - million households across our country. it could cut bills, - million households across our country. it could cut bills, cut| million households across our. country. it could cut bills, cut gas imports _ country. it could cut bills, cut gas imports and — country. it could cut bills, cut gas imports and carbon _ country. it could cut bills, cut gas imports and carbon emissions. i country. it could cut bills, cut gas. imports and carbon emissions. that takes time to _ imports and carbon emissions. takes time to filter through. imports and carbon emissions. that takes time to filter through. a - imports and carbon emissions. that takes time to filter through. a lot i takes time to filter through. a lot of these things _ takes time to filter through. a lot of these things can _ takes time to filter through. a lot of these things can happen quickly. the cheapest, _ of these things can happen quickly. the cheapest, fastest— of these things can happen quickly. the cheapest, fastest thing - of these things can happen quickly. the cheapest, fastest thing we - of these things can happen quickly. the cheapest, fastest thing we can| the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in _ the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in terms — the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in terms of— the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in terms of energy— the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in terms of energy supply - the cheapest, fastest thing we can do in terms of energy supply is - do in terms of energy supply is onshore — do in terms of energy supply is onshore wind. _ do in terms of energy supply is onshore wind. it _ do in terms of energy supply is onshore wind. it also _ do in terms of energy supply is onshore wind. it also gives - do in terms of energy supply is onshore wind. it also gives usl onshore wind. it also gives us sovereignty _ onshore wind. it also gives us sovereignty if— onshore wind. it also gives us sovereignty. if we _ onshore wind. it also gives us sovereignty. if we get - onshore wind. it also gives us sovereignty. if we get those i onshore wind. it also gives us . sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines — sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines up. _ sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines up, and _ sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines up, and we _ sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines up, and we know- sovereignty. if we get those wind turbines up, and we know there i sovereignty. if we get those wind . turbines up, and we know there are hundreds— turbines up, and we know there are hundreds with — turbines up, and we know there are hundreds with planning _ turbines up, and we know there are hundreds with planning permissionl hundreds with planning permission being _ hundreds with planning permission being blocked _ hundreds with planning permission being blocked by— hundreds with planning permission being blocked by government, - hundreds with planning permission being blocked by government, wel being blocked by government, we could _ being blocked by government, we could actually— being blocked by government, we could actually generate _ being blocked by government, we could actually generate the - being blocked by government, we could actually generate the power being blocked by government, we . could actually generate the power we need to _ could actually generate the power we need to replace — could actually generate the power we need to replace russian _ could actually generate the power we need to replace russian gas - could actually generate the power we need to replace russian gas imports. i need to replace russian gas imports. but does _ need to replace russian gas imports. but does it— need to replace russian gas imports. but does it give — need to replace russian gas imports. but does it give us— need to replace russian gas imports. but does it give us energy— need to replace russian gas imports. but does it give us energy security? i but does it give us energy security? even before russia's invasion of ukraine, — even before russia's invasion of ukraine, higherenergy even before russia's invasion of ukraine, higher energy costs were being _ ukraine, higher energy costs were being blamed partly on the fact that wind energy didn't generate as much as was— wind energy didn't generate as much as was expected because there wasn't as was expected because there wasn't as much? _ as was expected because there wasn't as much? ., �* , as was expected because there wasn't as much? . �*, ., . as much? that's not correct. the reason prices _ as much? that's not correct. the reason prices were _ as much? that's not correct. the reason prices were going - as much? that's not correct. the reason prices were going up - as much? that's not correct. the reason prices were going up is i as much? that's not correct. the i reason prices were going up is they were _ reason prices were going up is they were still— reason prices were going up is they were still far— reason prices were going up is they were still far too _ reason prices were going up is they were still far too exposed - reason prices were going up is they were still far too exposed to - reason prices were going up is they were still far too exposed to fossill were still far too exposed to fossil fuet _ were still far too exposed to fossil fuet this— were still far too exposed to fossil fuet this is— were still far too exposed to fossil fuel. this is part _ were still far too exposed to fossil fuel. this is part of— were still far too exposed to fossil fuel. this is part of the _ were still far too exposed to fossil fuel. this is part of the way- were still far too exposed to fossil fuel. this is part of the way the i fuel. this is part of the way the energy— fuel. this is part of the way the energy market _ fuel. this is part of the way the energy market works. - fuel. this is part of the way the energy market works. 50% - fuel. this is part of the way the energy market works. 50% of i fuel. this is part of the way the l energy market works. 50% of are fuel. this is part of the way the - energy market works. 50% of are my

.as energy market works. 50% of are my gas comes— energy market works. 50% of are my 965 wines from _ energy market works. 50% of are my gas comes from the _ energy market works. 50% of are my gas comes from the north _ energy market works. 50% of are my gas comes from the north sea. - energy market works. 50% of are my gas comes from the north sea. we l gas comes from the north sea. we import— gas comes from the north sea. we import the — gas comes from the north sea. we import the rest _ gas comes from the north sea. we import the rest. we _ gas comes from the north sea. we import the rest. we pay— gas comes from the north sea. we import the rest. we pay the - gas comes from the north sea. we import the rest. we pay the samel import the rest. we pay the same price _ import the rest. we pay the same price for— import the rest. we pay the same price for both _ import the rest. we pay the same price for both. we _ import the rest. we pay the same price for both. we are _ import the rest. we pay the same price for both. we are an- import the rest. we pay the same i price for both. we are an integrated global— price for both. we are an integrated global market — price for both. we are an integrated global market in _ price for both. we are an integrated global market in terms _ price for both. we are an integrated global market in terms of _ price for both. we are an integrated global market in terms of gas - global market in terms of gas prices — global market in terms of gas prices the _ global market in terms of gas prices. the best _ global market in terms of gas prices. the best choice - global market in terms of gas prices. the best choice we . global market in terms of gas| prices. the best choice we can global market in terms of gas - prices. the best choice we can make in terms _ prices. the best choice we can make in terms of— prices. the best choice we can make in terms of getting _ prices. the best choice we can make in terms of getting bills _ prices. the best choice we can make in terms of getting bills down, - prices. the best choice we can make in terms of getting bills down, havel in terms of getting bills down, have energy— in terms of getting bills down, have energy security _ in terms of getting bills down, have energy security and _ in terms of getting bills down, have energy security and tackled - in terms of getting bills down, have energy security and tackled the - energy security and tackled the climate — energy security and tackled the climate challenge, _ energy security and tackled the climate challenge, is— energy security and tackled the climate challenge, is to - energy security and tackled the climate challenge, is to move i climate challenge, is to move further — climate challenge, is to move further and _ climate challenge, is to move further and faster— climate challenge, is to move further and faster in- climate challenge, is to move further and faster in green. climate challenge, is to move - further and faster in green energy. that could — further and faster in green energy. that could include _ further and faster in green energy. that could include nuclear- further and faster in green energy. that could include nuclear power, i that could include nuclear power, which _ that could include nuclear power, which provides— that could include nuclear power, which provides baseload, - that could include nuclear power, - which provides baseload, renewables, tidal power. _ which provides baseload, renewables, tidal power, solar— which provides baseload, renewables, tidal power, solar power _ which provides baseload, renewables, tidal power, solar power and - which provides baseload, renewables, tidal power, solar power and also, - tidal power, solar power and also, crucially, — tidal power, solar power and also, crucially. energy— tidal power, solar power and also, crucially, energy efficiency, - tidal power, solar power and also, i crucially, energy efficiency, where, as a country. — crucially, energy efficiency, where, as a country. we _ crucially, energy efficiency, where, as a country, we have _ crucially, energy efficiency, where, as a country, we have fallen- crucially, energy efficiency, where, as a country, we have fallen far- as a country, we have fallen far behind — as a country, we have fallen far behind. ~ , ., ., , as a country, we have fallen far behind. ~ i. ., , , behind. while you are with us, 'ust one more behind. while you are with us, 'ust more thing �* behind. while you are with us, 'ust one more thing to i behind. while you are with us, 'ust one more thing to get i behind. while you are with us, 'ust one more thing to get yourfi behind. while you are with us, just. one more thing to get your thoughts on. one more thing to get your thoughts on the _ one more thing to get your thoughts on. the government said it will streamline the scheme for ukrainians, but it will not lift restrictions completely. is that the film restrictions completely. is that the right balance to have achieved to make _ right balance to have achieved to make sure — right balance to have achieved to make sure there are security checks? no, there _ make sure there are security checks? no, there is— make sure there are security checks? no, there is a— make sure there are security checks? no, there is a real problem here. there _ no, there is a real problem here. there is— no, there is a real problem here. there is a — no, there is a real problem here. there is a problem _ no, there is a real problem here. there is a problem with - 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would that do? it would do two basic checks in terms of biometrics - would that do? it would do two basic checks in terms of biometrics and . checks in terms of biometrics and security— checks in terms of biometrics and security against _ checks in terms of biometrics and security against the _ checks in terms of biometrics and security against the so—called - security against the so—called watchlist _ security against the so—called watchlist it— security against the so—called watchlist. it can _ security against the so—called watchlist. it can be _ security against the so—called watchlist. it can be done - security against the so—called watchlist. it can be done on i security against the so—called l watchlist. it can be done on the spot _ watchlist. it can be done on the spot we — watchlist. it can be done on the spot we can— watchlist. it can be done on the spot we can get— watchlist. it can be done on the spot. we can get people - watchlist. it can be done on the spot. we can get people into. watchlist. it can be done on the| spot. we can get people into the country— spot. we can get people into the country and _ spot. we can get people into the country and offer— spot. we can get people into the country and offer them - spot. we can get people into the| country and offer them sanctuary. and they — country and offer them sanctuary. and they need _ country and offer them sanctuary. and they need to _ country and offer them sanctuary. and they need to get _ country and offer them sanctuary. and they need to get the - country and offer them sanctuary. and they need to get the centresl and they need to get the centres open _ and they need to get the centres open i_ and they need to get the centres open i saw— and they need to get the centres open. i sawthe— and they need to get the centres open. i saw the very— and they need to get the centres open. i saw the very moving - open. i saw the very moving interview— open. i saw the very moving interview earlier— open. i saw the very moving interview earlier on. - open. i saw the very moving interview earlier on. the - open. i saw the very moving. interview earlier on. the centre open. i saw the very moving - interview earlier on. the centre is not being — interview earlier on. the centre is not being open— interview earlier on. the centre is not being open that _ interview earlier on. the centre is not being open that has _ interview earlier on. the centre is not being open that has been - interview earlier on. the centre is| not being open that has been such interview earlier on. the centre is i not being open that has been such a bureaucratic— not being open that has been such a bureaucratic hassle. _ not being open that has been such a bureaucratic hassle. it _ not being open that has been such a bureaucratic hassle. it has - not being open that has been such a bureaucratic hassle. it has to - bureaucratic hassle. it has to change — bureaucratic hassle. it has to change and _ bureaucratic hassle. it has to change and change _ bureaucratic hassle. it has to change and change urgently. i bureaucratic hassle. it has to i change and change urgently. ed change and change urgently. miliband, thank you very change and change urgentlyfl miliband, thank you very much. that's— miliband, thank you very much. that's it — miliband, thank you very much. that's it from me for the moment. back to naga and charlie. thank you very much- — back to naga and charlie. thank you very much- good — back to naga and charlie. thank you very much. good to _ back to naga and charlie. thank you very much. good to have _ back to naga and charlie. thank you very much. good to have a - back to naga and charlie. thank you very much. good to have a person i back to naga and charlie. thank you} very much. good to have a person in the studio. we are getting there. a report into a train crash in scotland that killed three people, has found that there were a series of failings which contributed to the accident. the rail accident investigation branch report into the derailment in aberdeenshire in august 2020, found network rail operating procedures failed to deal with the extreme weather in the area at the time, as our scotland correspondent

lorna gordon reports. the tangled wreckage of the derailed train. it had been travelling at 73 mph close to its normal speed when it left the line near stonehaven after hitting debris washed onto the track, in this the first fatal track on the network for more than a decade. three people died. one of the passengers on the train, the train conductor and the driver. there was a large emergency response on the day, which has been followed by multiple parallel investigations into what went wrong. the solicitor representing two of those who died, and most of those injured, said they are shocked at what today's report reveals. , , , ., , are shocked at what today's report reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed _ reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed by _ reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed by anger _ reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed by anger and - reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed by anger and i - reveals. disbelief was probably the first followed by anger and i think i first followed by anger and i think they were shocked to learn are

really the whole host of things that had gone wrong. ultimately, my view is the accident was entirely avoidable.— is the accident was entirely avoidable. . ., , avoidable. the weather had been atrocious. this _ avoidable. the weather had been atrocious. this network - avoidable. the weather had been atrocious. this network rail- avoidable. the weather had been i atrocious. this network rail footage atrocious. this network railfootage taken elsewhere showed the poor conditions, with lines blocked, flash flooding. almost a month of rain fell in almost three hours. the rail accident investigation report found the drainage system was not installed according to the original design, which meant it couldn't cope with the volume of water and that they were missed opportunities to address this. the network rail management did not have suitable plans to deal with extreme weather, and route controllers had not been given the information or training they needed to manage the complex situation. irate they needed to manage the complex situation. ~ ., , they needed to manage the complex situation. ~ . , , , situation. we are very sorry. this re ort situation. we are very sorry. this report makes _ situation. we are very sorry. this report makes difficult _ situation. we are very sorry. this report makes difficult reading. i report makes difficult reading. there's a lot we did wrong. the installation of the drain in 2012 wasn't done to the right standards. and our operating procedures were far from and our operating procedures were farfrom perfect in and our operating procedures were far from perfect in the extreme

weather that we had. so we are going to be adopting the recommendations the rail accident investigation branch has made. the accident ha--ened branch has made. the accident happened during _ branch has made. the accident happened during a _ branch has made. the accident happened during a covid - branch has made. the accident i happened during a covid lockdown branch has made. the accident - happened during a covid lockdown in aberdeen. if the train had been carrying its normal number of passengers, casualties would almost certainly have been significantly higher. more than 20 recommendations have been made. the train drivers union aslef has described the report as damning and has called on this to be a watershed moment for rail safety. lorna gordon, bbc news. 12 minutes past nine. the inquest into the death of 24—year—old teacherjack ritchie, who took his own life in 2017, has said gambling had been a factor in his death. coroner david urpeth said information about the dangers and associated treatments available at the time, was "woefully inadequate and failed to meet jack's needs". jack's parents liz and charles ritchie now run the charity gambling with lives,

and join us now. good morning. it's been quite a journey, hasn't it? where are we at now? where are you at now? itrefoil. now? where are you at now? well, truthfull , now? where are you at now? well, truthfully. we _ now? where are you at now? well, truthfully, we miss _ now? where are you at now? well, truthfully, we miss him _ now? where are you at now? well, truthfully, we miss him every - now? where are you at now? well, truthfully, we miss him every day. | truthfully, we miss him every day. he is— truthfully, we miss him every day. he is still— truthfully, we miss him every day. he is still not here. we had the most _ he is still not here. we had the most amazing result for his inquest. but he _ most amazing result for his inquest. but he is _ most amazing result for his inquest. but he is still not here. i mean, as you said. — but he is still not here. i mean, as you said. the — but he is still not here. i mean, as you said, the coroner found the state _ you said, the coroner found the state had — you said, the coroner found the state had woefully failed jack in all sorts — state had woefully failed jack in all sorts of ways. state had woefully failed 'ack in all sorts of ways.�* state had woefully failed 'ack in all sorts of ways. how important is it that that — all sorts of ways. how important is it that that has — all sorts of ways. how important is it that that has been _ all sorts of ways. how important is i it that that has been acknowledged? that is really important but one of the most — that is really important but one of the most important thing is the coroner— the most important thing is the coroner said is that it was not his fault _ coroner said is that it was not his fault that— coroner said is that it was not his fault that he was addicted. and that chimes _ fault that he was addicted. and that chimes with what the minister said of the _ chimes with what the minister said of the other day. that anyone can become _ of the other day. that anyone can become addicted. these are such addictive — become addicted. these are such addictive products. they are more addictive — addictive products. they are more addictive than hard drugs. there are some _ addictive than hard drugs. there are some products that you've got a one

in two _ some products that you've got a one in two chance of becoming addicted. horrific~ _ in two chance of becoming addicted. horrific. ., , ._ , ., �* horrific. people may be don't understand — horrific. people may be don't understand how _ horrific. people may be don't understand how a _ horrific. people may be don't understand how a coroner's i horrific. people may be don't i understand how a coroner's 0rd works. you were in the court. and you hear all the evidence. and then you hear all the evidence. and then you hear a judge making a statement, giving the verdict about the death of your own son. i can only imagine what the emotions are like in that moment. satisfaction, presumably, because something has happened. what is that like for you? itrefoil. because something has happened. what is that like for you?— is that like for you? well, at one level we didn't _ is that like for you? well, at one level we didn't need _ is that like for you? well, at one level we didn't need a _ is that like for you? well, at one level we didn't need a coroner i is that like for you? well, at one j level we didn't need a coroner to tell us— level we didn't need a coroner to tell us why— level we didn't need a coroner to tell us whyjack _ level we didn't need a coroner to tell us whyjack did _ level we didn't need a coroner to tell us whyjack did —— _ level we didn't need a coroner to tell us whyjack did —— died, - level we didn't need a coroner to tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack— tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack died — tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack died we _ tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack died. we know— tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack died. we know what - tell us whyjack did —— died, how jack died. we know what killed i tell us whyjack did —— died, how. jack died. we know what killed him. gambling _ jack died. we know what killed him. gambling killed _ jack died. we know what killed him. gambling killed him. _ jack died. we know what killed him. gambling killed him. but— jack died. we know what killed him. gambling killed him. but it - jack died. we know what killed him. gambling killed him. but it was - gambling killed him. but it was important — gambling killed him. but it was important to _ gambling killed him. but it was important to have _ gambling killed him. but it was important to have an _ gambling killed him. but it was important to have an official i gambling killed him. but it was important to have an official of| gambling killed him. but it was i important to have an official of the state _ important to have an official of the state highlighting _ important to have an official of the state highlighting the _ important to have an official of the state highlighting the failures - important to have an official of the state highlighting the failures of. state highlighting the failures of government. _ state highlighting the failures of government, the _ state highlighting the failures of government, the woeful- state highlighting the failures ofj government, the woeful failures state highlighting the failures of. government, the woeful failures of government. — government, the woeful failures of government. to _ government, the woeful failures of government, to provide _ government, the woeful failures of government, to provide adequate. government, to provide adequate regulation, — government, to provide adequate regulation, treatment— government, to provide adequate regulation, treatment or- regulation, treatment or information. _ regulation, treatment or information. and - regulation, treatment or information. and as - regulation, treatment or information. and as lizi

regulation, treatment or- information. and as liz says, he also _ information. and as liz says, he also command _ information. and as liz says, he also command this _ information. and as liz says, he also command this is _ information. and as liz says, he also command this is a - information. and as liz says, he also command this is a huge - information. and as liz says, he i also command this is a huge step, information. and as liz says, he - also command this is a huge step, he said if— also command this is a huge step, he said if this _ also command this is a huge step, he said if this was — also command this is a huge step, he said if this was not _ also command this is a huge step, he said if this was not jack's _ also command this is a huge step, he said if this was not jack's fold. - said if this was not jack's fold. addiction— said if this was not jack's fold. addiction is— said if this was not jack's fold. addiction is not— said if this was not jack's fold. addiction is not the _ said if this was not jack's fold. i addiction is not the individual's fault _ addiction is not the individual's fault if— addiction is not the individual's fault. if you've _ addiction is not the individual's fault. if you've got _ addiction is not the individual's fault. if you've got highly- fault. if you've got highly addictive _ fault. if you've got highly addictive products- fault. if you've got highly addictive products beingi fault. if you've got highly- addictive products being peddled relentlessly— addictive products being peddled relentlessly by— addictive products being peddled relentlessly by an _ addictive products being peddled relentlessly by an industry, - addictive products being peddled| relentlessly by an industry, some people _ relentlessly by an industry, some people will— relentlessly by an industry, some people will become _ relentlessly by an industry, some people will become addicted. - relentlessly by an industry, some people will become addicted. so, relentlessly by an industry, some i people will become addicted. so, it was a _ people will become addicted. so, it was a resolution _ people will become addicted. so, it was a resolution in _ people will become addicted. so, it was a resolution in some _ people will become addicted. so, it was a resolution in some respects. was a resolution in some respects but what — was a resolution in some respects but what it— was a resolution in some respects but what it is, _ was a resolution in some respects but what it is, it's _ was a resolution in some respects but what it is, it's the _ was a resolution in some respects but what it is, it's the platform i but what it is, it's the platform for the — but what it is, it's the platform for the next _ but what it is, it's the platform for the next stage _ but what it is, it's the platform for the next stage of— but what it is, it's the platform for the next stage of reform. l but what it is, it's the platform - for the next stage of reform. some of which _ for the next stage of reform. some of which the — for the next stage of reform. some of which the coroner _ for the next stage of reform. some of which the coroner has _ for the next stage of reform. some of which the coroner has said - for the next stage of reform. some of which the coroner has said of. for the next stage of reform. somej of which the coroner has said of the government— of which the coroner has said of the government must— of which the coroner has said of the government must react _ of which the coroner has said of the government must react to, - of which the coroner has said of the government must react to, and - of which the coroner has said of the government must react to, and it's| government must react to, and it's also feeding — government must react to, and it's also feeding into _ government must react to, and it's also feeding into the _ government must react to, and it's also feeding into the gambling - government must react to, and it's also feeding into the gambling actl also feeding into the gambling act review _ also feeding into the gambling act review. , ., , review. there is the gambling review, review. there is the gambling review. as — review. there is the gambling review, as you _ review. there is the gambling review, as you say, _ review. there is the gambling review, as you say, which - review. there is the gambling review, as you say, which is i review. there is the gambling i review, as you say, which is due review. there is the gambling - review, as you say, which is due in a few weeks. the government has commented. you blame the government for not acting more quickly. the gambling commission is going to itself publish more requirements for customer interaction, making sure that gambling organisations are doing proper checks. just before we

came on air we started this conversation. we were talking about the tentacles of gambling and how it has not been tackled before. what are you hoping will change with these reviews that are coming up? can ijust these reviews that are coming up? can i just say one these reviews that are coming up? can ijust say one thing? it's not ok to _ can ijust say one thing? it's not ok toiust— can ijust say one thing? it's not ok tojust try can ijust say one thing? it's not ok to just try and help people once 0k to just try and help people once they are _ 0k to just try and help people once they are given a life threatening illness — they are given a life threatening illness it — they are given a life threatening illness. it is a normalisation of deliberately commercialising giving people _ deliberately commercialising giving people an illness that they might die from — people an illness that they might die from. and then you say, they'll -- them _ die from. and then you say, they'll -- them are — die from. and then you say, they'll —— them are going to try to stop them _ —— them are going to try to stop them a — —— them are going to try to stop them a little bit. the whole premise is based _ them a little bit. the whole premise is based on — them a little bit. the whole premise is based on a parasitic industry. there _ is based on a parasitic industry. there will— is based on a parasitic industry. there will be a pushback. this is leisure time. people have their own choices to make.— choices to make. they are selling addictive products. _ choices to make. they are selling addictive products. it _ choices to make. they are selling addictive products. it is _ choices to make. they are selling addictive products. it is not - choices to make. they are selling addictive products. it is not a - addictive products. it is not a leisure — addictive products. it is not a leisure industry. they have sold everybody— leisure industry. they have sold everybody the idea. so leisure industry. they have sold everybody the idea.— everybody the idea. so are cigarettes. _ everybody the idea. so are cigarettes, so _ everybody the idea. so are cigarettes, so is _ everybody the idea. so are cigarettes, so is alcohol. i everybody the idea. so are - cigarettes, so is alcohol. those will be the pushbikes. it is about

protecting those who are vulnerable? it is also about information about industry~ — it is also about information about industry it— it is also about information about industry it is— it is also about information about industry. it is an _ it is also about information about industry. it is an industry- it is also about information about industry. it is an industry that. it is also about information about industry. it is an industry that is. industry. it is an industry that is sold _ industry. it is an industry that is sold as — industry. it is an industry that is sold as fun _ industry. it is an industry that is sold as fun. there _ industry. it is an industry that is sold as fun. there isn't - industry. it is an industry that is sold as fun. there isn't a - industry. it is an industry that is| sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning — sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning of— sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning of the _ sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning of the risk— sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning of the risk of— sold as fun. there isn't a danger warning of the risk of suicide. i sold as fun. there isn't a danger. warning of the risk of suicide. the risk of— warning of the risk of suicide. the risk of harm — warning of the risk of suicide. the risk of harm to _ warning of the risk of suicide. the risk of harm to mental— warning of the risk of suicide. the risk of harm to mental health. - warning of the risk of suicide. the i risk of harm to mental health. jack, when _ risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he _ risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he went— risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he went into _ risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he went into a _ risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he went into a betting - risk of harm to mental health. jack, when he went into a betting shop, i when he went into a betting shop, underage. — when he went into a betting shop, underage. aged _ when he went into a betting shop, underage, aged 17, _ when he went into a betting shop, underage, aged 17, he _ when he went into a betting shop, underage, aged 17, he was- when he went into a betting shop, i underage, aged 17, he was engaging in his— underage, aged 17, he was engaging in his mind _ underage, aged 17, he was engaging in his mind with— underage, aged 17, he was engaging in his mind with something - underage, aged 17, he was engaging in his mind with something which i underage, aged 17, he was engaging i in his mind with something which was fun. in his mind with something which was furl ~_ in his mind with something which was furl ~ furl _ in his mind with something which was furl ~ furl what_ in his mind with something which was fun. . fun. what we _ in his mind with something which was fun. . fun. what we have _ in his mind with something which was fun. . fun. what we have got, - in his mind with something which was fun. . fun. what we have got, as - in his mind with something which was fun. . fun. what we have got, as lizl fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says. _ fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says. is_ fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says. is we — fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says. is we have _ fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says, is we have got _ fun. . fun. what we have got, as liz says, is we have got highly- says, is we have got highly addictive _ says, is we have got highly addictive products- says, is we have got highly addictive products which i says, is we have got highly. addictive products which are says, is we have got highly- addictive products which are hidden behind _ addictive products which are hidden behind a _ addictive products which are hidden behind a mask_ addictive products which are hidden behind a mask of— addictive products which are hidden behind a mask of fun. _ addictive products which are hidden behind a mask of fun. it _ addictive products which are hidden behind a mask of fun. it is- addictive products which are hidden behind a mask of fun. it is a - behind a mask of fun. it is a funfain _ behind a mask of fun. it is a funfair. , a, , a, behind a mask of fun. it is a funfair. ,, t, n t, behind a mask of fun. it is a funfair. ,, t, t, t, funfair. can i ask you about of the secrecy that _ funfair. can i ask you about of the secrecy that is _ funfair. can i ask you about of the secrecy that is involved, - funfair. can i ask you about of the secrecy that is involved, those - secrecy that is involved, those people who become addicted to gambling? there will probably be people watching you this morning, who are thinking, they are worried about a loved one, or maybe somebody watching this who thinks they have a problem. there is a kind of conspiracy of silence around some of this, isn't there? the

conspiracy of silence around some of this, isn't there?— this, isn't there? the conspiracy of silence is from _ this, isn't there? the conspiracy of silence is from the _ this, isn't there? the conspiracy of silence is from the industry. - this, isn't there? the conspiracy of silence is from the industry. our i silence is from the industry. our experience — silence is from the industry. our experience is that the people who have died — experience is that the people who have died have not been secret. their— have died have not been secret. their families knew. but there weren't— their families knew. but there weren't any proper warnings. the coroner— weren't any proper warnings. the coroner was — weren't any proper warnings. the coroner was actually very interested in the _ coroner was actually very interested in the warning of gambling kills. he made _ in the warning of gambling kills. he made a _ in the warning of gambling kills. he made a parallel with smoking kills. and actually come at one point of the charity— and actually come at one point of the charity partner, sorry, the gambling _ the charity partner, sorry, the gambling industry partner charity said they— gambling industry partner charity said they would put that on their website, — said they would put that on their website, then they withdrew it at the test— website, then they withdrew it at the last minute. gn website, then they withdrew it at the last minute.— the last minute. on a practical note, chance, _ the last minute. on a practical note, chance, they _ the last minute. on a practical note, chance, they will- the last minute. on a practical note, chance, they will be - the last minute. on a practical. note, chance, they will be people walking into betting shops today. what would you have happened that might make them think about what they are doing? they are free to choose. people are free to choose to gamble. you might quibble with that because it is an addiction. but you know what i mean. people will be walking into a bookies today and placing a bet. they would be doing that. what would you have happened to try and change that in a practical sense?

to try and change that in a practicalsense? in to try and change that in a practical sense?— to try and change that in a practical sense? in a practical sense they — practical sense? in a practical sense they need _ practical sense? in a practical sense they need to _ practical sense? in a practical sense they need to know - practical sense? in a practical| sense they need to know what practical sense? in a practical- sense they need to know what they are entering — sense they need to know what they are entering into. _ sense they need to know what they are entering into. when— sense they need to know what they are entering into. when somebody| are entering into. when somebody takes _ are entering into. when somebody takes drugs, — are entering into. when somebody takes drugs, start— are entering into. when somebody takes drugs, start smoking, - takes drugs, start smoking, whatever, _ takes drugs, start smoking, whatever, they— takes drugs, start smoking, whatever, they know- takes drugs, start smoking, whatever, they know what l takes drugs, start smoking, i whatever, they know what they takes drugs, start smoking, - whatever, they know what they are entering _ whatever, they know what they are entering int0~ _ whatever, they know what they are entering into. so, _ whatever, they know what they are entering into. so, number- whatever, they know what they are entering into. so, number one- whatever, they know what they are entering into. so, number one is. entering into. so, number one is that people _ entering into. so, number one is that pebble have _ entering into. so, number one is that people have got— entering into. so, number one is that people have got to - entering into. so, number one is that people have got to know- entering into. so, number one is. that people have got to know what they are _ that people have got to know what they are entering _ that people have got to know what they are entering into. _ that people have got to know what they are entering into. but - that people have got to know what they are entering into. but we - that people have got to know whati they are entering into. but we have also got _ they are entering into. but we have also got to— they are entering into. but we have also got to recognise _ they are entering into. but we have also got to recognise that - they are entering into. but we have also got to recognise that we - they are entering into. but we have also got to recognise that we are l also got to recognise that we are dealing _ also got to recognise that we are dealing with _ also got to recognise that we are dealing with addiction. _ also got to recognise that we are dealing with addiction. an - also got to recognise that we are . dealing with addiction. an addiction which _ dealing with addiction. an addiction which can— dealing with addiction. an addiction which can take _ dealing with addiction. an addiction which can take place _ dealing with addiction. an addiction which can take place very— dealing with addiction. an addiction which can take place very rapidly. l which can take place very rapidly. that the — which can take place very rapidly. that the consequences _ which can take place very rapidly. that the consequences of, - which can take place very rapidly. that the consequences of, within| which can take place very rapidly. i that the consequences of, within a very short — that the consequences of, within a very short period _ that the consequences of, within a very short period of— that the consequences of, within a very short period of time, - that the consequences of, within a very short period of time, can - that the consequences of, within a very short period of time, can be l very short period of time, can be catastrophic _ very short period of time, can be catastrophic. you _ very short period of time, can be catastrophic. you can't _ very short period of time, can be catastrophic. you can't smoke i catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself— catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself to— catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself to death _ catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself to death in _ catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself to death in a - catastrophic. you can't smoke yourself to death in a day's i catastrophic. you can't smoke - yourself to death in a day's session of cigarettes — yourself to death in a day's session of cigarettes. you _ yourself to death in a day's session of cigarettes. you can _ yourself to death in a day's session of cigarettes. you can end - yourself to death in a day's session of cigarettes. you can end up - yourself to death in a day's sessionl of cigarettes. you can end up taking your life _ of cigarettes. you can end up taking your life after — of cigarettes. you can end up taking your life after that _ of cigarettes. you can end up taking your life after that very _ of cigarettes. you can end up taking your life after that very short - your life after that very short engagement _ your life after that very short engagement. so _ your life after that very short engagement. so people - your life after that very short| engagement. so people need your life after that very short. engagement. so people need to your life after that very short - engagement. so people need to know what they— engagement. so people need to know what they are — engagement. so people need to know what they are entering _ engagement. so people need to know what they are entering into. _ what they are entering into. products _ what they are entering into. products need _ what they are entering into. products need to _ what they are entering into. products need to be - what they are entering into. products need to be made l what they are entering into. - products need to be made safer. and there _ products need to be made safer. and there needs — products need to be made safer. and there needs to— products need to be made safer. and there needs to be _ products need to be made safer. and there needs to be adequate - products need to be made safer. andl there needs to be adequate treatment for those _ there needs to be adequate treatment for those people — there needs to be adequate treatment for those people who _ there needs to be adequate treatment for those people who are _ for those people who are unfortunately, _ for those people who are unfortunately, through. for those people who are - unfortunately, through whatever circumstances _ unfortunately, through whatever circumstances unfortunately - unfortunately, through whatever circumstances unfortunately and i unfortunately, through whatever i circumstances unfortunately and up an addiction — circumstances unfortunately and up an addiction-— an addiction. very powerful to hear our an addiction. very powerful to hear your story- — an addiction. very powerful to hear your story- it— an addiction. very powerful to hear your story- it is _ an addiction. very powerful to hear your story. it is something - an addiction. very powerful to hear your story. it is something we - an addiction. very powerful to hear your story. it is something we have followed over the years. grateful

for you both coming back to talk to us. . ~' for you both coming back to talk to us. . ~ , ., for you both coming back to talk to us. ., ~' i., ., for you both coming back to talk to us. ., ~ i. ., ., for you both coming back to talk to us. thank you for having us. we are 'ustt in: us. thank you for having us. we are just trying to _ us. thank you for having us. we are just trying to stop — us. thank you for having us. we are just trying to stop this _ us. thank you for having us. we are just trying to stop this from - just trying to stop this from happening to other people and other people's— happening to other people and other people's children. everybody's child is at rist— people's children. everybody's child is at risk here. if people's children. everybody's child is at risk here.— is at risk here. if there is one message _ is at risk here. if there is one message that _ is at risk here. if there is one message that can _ is at risk here. if there is one message that can come - is at risk here. if there is one message that can come out | is at risk here. if there is one | message that can come out of is at risk here. if there is one i message that can come out of it is at risk here. if there is one - message that can come out of it it is that— message that can come out of it it is that it _ message that can come out of it it is that it is — message that can come out of it it is that it is not _ message that can come out of it it is that it is not the _ message that can come out of it it is that it is not the individual's - is that it is not the individual's fautt~ — is that it is not the individual's fautt~ that _ is that it is not the individual's fault. that is _ is that it is not the individual's fault. that is one _ is that it is not the individual's fault. that is one of— is that it is not the individual's fault. that is one of the - is that it is not the individual's i fault. that is one of the reasons why people _ fault. that is one of the reasons why peopte don't _ fault. that is one of the reasons why people don't come - fault. that is one of the reasonsi why people don't come forward, because — why people don't come forward, because they _ why people don't come forward, because they have _ why people don't come forward, because they have been - why people don't come forward, because they have been told - why people don't come forward, because they have been told it i why people don't come forward, | because they have been told it is their— because they have been told it is their fault — because they have been told it is their fault. that, _ because they have been told it is their fault. that, we _ because they have been told it is their fault. that, we believe, - because they have been told it is. their fault. that, we believe, adds to the _ their fault. that, we believe, adds to the suicide _ their fault. that, we believe, adds to the suicide risk— their fault. that, we believe, adds to the suicide risk as _ their fault. that, we believe, adds to the suicide risk as well - their fault. that, we believe, adds to the suicide risk as well because| to the suicide risk as well because people _ to the suicide risk as well because peopte take — to the suicide risk as well because peopte take it— to the suicide risk as well because peopte take it on— to the suicide risk as well because people take it on themselves. - to the suicide risk as well because. people take it on themselves. they are the _ people take it on themselves. they are the ones— people take it on themselves. they are the ones who _ people take it on themselves. they are the ones who have _ people take it on themselves. they are the ones who have to _ people take it on themselves. they are the ones who have to solve - people take it on themselves. they are the ones who have to solve the | are the ones who have to solve the probtem _ are the ones who have to solve the probtem for— are the ones who have to solve the problem for everybody. _ are the ones who have to solve the problem for everybody. that - are the ones who have to solve the problem for everybody. that is - are the ones who have to solve the problem for everybody. that is the | problem for everybody. that is the role problem for everybody. that is the rote of _ problem for everybody. that is the rote of the — problem for everybody. that is the role of the state _ problem for everybody. that is the role of the state as _ problem for everybody. that is the role of the state as well. _ problem for everybody. that is the role of the state as well. i - problem for everybody. that is the role of the state as well.— role of the state as well. i hope ou role of the state as well. i hope you drew _ role of the state as well. i hope you drew some _ role of the state as well. i hope you drew some comfort - role of the state as well. i hope you drew some comfort from i role of the state as well. i hope l you drew some comfort from the coroner's words, which is a blessing to some degree. thank you. taste coroner's words, which is a blessing to some degree. thank you.- to some degree. thank you. we did ask the betting _ to some degree. thank you. we did ask the betting and _ to some degree. thank you. we did ask the betting and gaming - to some degree. thank you. we did ask the betting and gaming council| ask the betting and gaming council for a statement and part of that was that their members are committed to spend an additional £100 million on the treatment of problem gambling, including treatment for a minority of those suffering from serious

addiction. that was between 2019 and 2023. they are committed to going even further to strongly support the government's gambling of you as an opportunity to further drive change. that gambling review due in a few weeks. details of organisations offering information and support with addiction are available on the bbc action line. at 8:57am, it is time for the weather. good morning. for many it is a cloudy start to the day, rather like this weather watchers picture from waterford. there is some brightness. showers in the south—east. drizzle in wales. also northern ireland. showers in scotland. that will continue through the day. a lot of cloud, drizzle here and there. showers and breezes. there will be some sunshine. if you are planning to go out at lunchtime, for example,

expect some sunshine across the moray firth. as this cloud moves away from northern ireland, it will brighten up for you too. most parts of wales, isle of man, anglesey, also seeing some sunshine, as were kent and east anglia. showers continuing through the rest of the afternoon across the channel islands. some of them drifting across the english channel, getting into hampshire and the isle of wight. temperatures today ranging from seven in stornoway to 15 in london. the average is eight to ten at this stage in march. as we head through the evening and overnight, the showers in the channel islands continue to push northwards, becoming more widespread. by the end of the night, rain in the south—west and the win strengthening as well. relatively mild. certainly a milder night than last night in western parts of scotland and also northern ireland. we start tomorrow again with a fair bit of cloud, showers, the rain coming in from the south—west pushes north—east, followed by heavy showers. they have the potential to be thundery with

some hail. wherever you are you will notice the wind. it is going to be fairly gusty tomorrow. temperatures seven in the north to 12 in the south. thank you. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59.

hello, this is bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire. these are your headlines from the uk and around the world. ukraine says three people were killed, including a child after that maternity hospital was bombed during a supposed ceasefire in mariupol. its mayor says putin has destroyed a peaceful city. they want to take the lives of our children, women, our doctors who have been fighting for 1h days of work for the lives of every child who came under fire from enemy weapons. heineken and unilever are the latest firms to pull out of russia the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia are holding face—to—face talks in turkey to try to come to some agreement that

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