hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching context on bbc news. ukraine's port city of mariupol continues to face heavy shelling by russia. as food and water supplies run low. the city's deputy mayor says at least 1200 people have been killed there, with some buried in a mass grave. ukrainian forces are fighting to defend the country's second city from russia's relentless assault — we have a special report from the front line in kharkiv. and if these tactics are unfamiliar to you, then you haven't been paying attention, because this is the russian attack playbook — perfected in over ten years of war in syria. diplomatic efforts are still under way to try and stop the attacks, but talks between russia and ukraine

ended with no progress. tonight with the context, andrea kendall—taylor, former deputy national intelligence officer for russia and eurasia, in the office of the director of national intelligence and paul waugh, chief political commentator at the i newspaper. welcome to the programme — as we enter the the third week of russia's invasion of ukraine, there are no signs of an end to the fighting. the first round of high—level talks between the foreign ministers of ukraine and russia in turkey have ended without any progress towards a ceasefire. there has been more shelling of the besieged southern city of mariupol. yesterday, three people were killed when a maternity hospital was bombed, one of them a child. and today, the main emergency services building in mariupol was hit and destroyed. it's where emergency workers and volunteers have been coordinating their efforts to help people in the city — they are running out of food and water.

for days, much of the city is without power. and they can't get out. ukraine's government says a humanitarian convoy trying to reach the city has been forced to turn back again. this is the latest map, showing the presence of russian troops in red. we are going to focus on kharkiv in the east. it has endured nightly russian air attacks and suffered dozens of civilian deaths and hundreds of injuries. most of the city's 1.5 million residents have fled. but the ukrainian forces have fought back. our correspondent quentin sommerville and cameraman darren conway have spent the week with the ukrainian forces there — and i should warn you their report contains graphic images from the front line that some viewers will find disturbing. head to the very eastern edge of ukraine and a ghostly vision of the country's fate unfolds before you.

the city of kharkiv is being purged of life. in near total blackout, the police in the country's second largest city take us on patrol. the russians are not far. explosions. shelling happens every night. this close to the russian border, there is another threat here — saboteurs. no—one escapes scrutiny. elina, 76 years old, is lost and confused — in an instant, everybody�*s life has been upended. but this young nation has surprised russia, and the world, with its resolve.

we weave our way past the fallen, into no man's land, with the ukrainian army. here is a 21—year—old soldier. where are the russians? over the sound of shelling, he tells me, "the russian soldiers "are standing about 900 metres away from here, you can hear right now "they are firing on our positions and we are firing back." it isa it is a grenade launcher. british. british. it is more than a grenade launcher, it is guided missiles. is it good against tanks? it is the best we have right now. how are the russians fighting? like the soldiers in 1941, attacking... they have a lot of people,

a lot of tanks, a lot of vehicles and technics, but we are fighting in our land and we protect our families, so it doesn't matter how they fight, we fight and they won't win. this is what people have been fleeing in kharkiv — endless bombardment for the past two weeks. over pa system: our administration would like to inform you that a fire i has started in the building, therefore please leave the building. this is what russia does to cities — it bombards them, it besieges them, it surrounds them. it terrorises entire populations. and if these tactics are unfamiliar to you, then you have not been paying attention, because this is the russian attack playbook — perfected in over ten years of war in syria. we know that russia bombs hospitals,

so here at the city's hospital number four, they keep the wounded in hallways away from the windows. mr valentina has been hit by shrapnel. "i have a poem for you", she says. translation: these stupid russian shrapnel pieces - i will carry all my life, but as long as my heart still beats, i will still live and love. and so, too, will eight—year—old dimitri — now that this has been removed from his skull. this is the war that russia has fought before and is fighting again. we don't know the rest of ukraine's fate, but kharkiv has already shown what is coming next. translation: defenders, we will ride togerther. - we will defend together and all our heroic people will gather to rebuild our beloved ukraine. quentin somerville, bbc news,

kharkiv, in eastern ukraine. startling images there from quinton. thanks to him and his team. retired general ben hodges, who is a former commander general of the us army in europe, joins us from frankfurt. great to have you with us, thank you forjoining us on context. how do you see the situation on the ground right now as you take a look across ukraine? . ~ right now as you take a look across ukraine? ., ~ , ., ., ., ukraine? thank you. i thought that re ort was ukraine? thank you. i thought that report was excellent. _ ukraine? thank you. i thought that report was excellent. he _ ukraine? thank you. i thought that report was excellent. he really - report was excellent. he really captured the feel, the sounds, what is going on there. and also he captured the gut—wrenching part of innocent civilians that are trapped and being injured. he also, i thought, just interviewing the soldiers, this is the difference. ukrainian soldiers are defending their home turf, they know the area. russian soldiers invading, many do not know what they were being sent to do, and so at the end of the day,

it is the human dimension, it is so much more powerful and important than the material or technical part. this is why i think ukraine is going to win in the end. they have got time on their side, logistical situation is getting better by the day. russians have a manpower shortage. i ammunition shortage that will start showing soon. and they have got the whole world turned against them. they do. they have a lot of support, but most definitely, but a lack of information as well it is coming from russia. but that is quite a stark assessment, general, that you believe ukraine will win in the end, because in those first days, there was this inevitability with the size of the russian military, that they would eventually achieve their military aims, and are you thinking about a particular timeline when you

think that ukraine will eventually be the victor?— think that ukraine will eventually be the victor? ~' ., ., be the victor? luuk, the whole world has been watching _ be the victor? luuk, the whole world has been watching this _ be the victor? luuk, the whole world has been watching this thing - be the victor? luuk, the whole world has been watching this thing for - has been watching this thing for over two and a half weeks, and there is a huge difference between big numbers and actual fighting capability. we had russia has got 900,000 troops and almost 200,000 in ukraine, but wembley stadium holds almost 100,000 people, so thinking about that, 200,000 is not that many, especially in a country the size of ukraine. they have been fighting for over two weeks now in mariupol and kharkiv, and they still cannot capture it. those should have been the two easiest cities to capture, so honestly, i never thought this was inevitable, and certainly it is going to be terrible for thousands of people over the next few weeks, but the human part, but also the logistical part, the

united states and at least 20 other countries are heavily involved in logistical build—up, getting things into ukraine, and once we get started on logistics, we get it going. it is moving in the right direction, still a lot to do, we are going to see a lot more civilians killed now, russia has chosen this approach, exactly as quentin said. this is how they do things. murder, to create a huge refugee problem and put pressure on all of us, but as long as the west sticks together and we continue to provide ukrainians the tools they need, i think the russians will culminate and ukraine will still be standing when this is over. ~ . will still be standing when this is over, ~ ., ., ,., will still be standing when this is over. ~ . ., , over. what about the case in mariupol _ over. what about the case in mariupol at _ over. what about the case in mariupol at the _ over. what about the case in mariupol at the moment? i over. what about the case in - mariupol at the moment? terrible stories coming out of that, an airport city, people that are really looking for their next bite to eat, for example, and the shelling continues. is there a way for ukraine to push back at that area

against the russians? i ukraine to push back at that area against the russians?— ukraine to push back at that area against the russians? i would expect that the ukrainian _ against the russians? i would expect that the ukrainian general— against the russians? i would expect that the ukrainian general staff - against the russians? i would expect that the ukrainian general staff is - that the ukrainian general staff is thinking now about ways. you have lots of russian forces tied up around mariupol, and so ukraine is fighting in several directions, but you have got some very good senior officers in the general staff as well as at lower levels, and the appropriate professional thing right now is that they probably are building up the capabilities, preparing to either launch a strike somewhere else, or perhaps looking to do a relief style operation. the thing is, russia has made the choice to go with a war of attrition, and if you are going to do that, you must have time, endless ammunition and endless manpower, and the russians don't have any of those three. so this is terrible mariupol

right now, but overall, i think ukraine is going to be to start pushing back as russian forces wayne out. . ., ~ , ., ., ., out. general, thank you. i want to brin: out. general, thank you. iwant to brin: in out. general, thank you. i want to bring in andrea. _ out. general, thank you. i want to bring in andrea. on _ out. general, thank you. i want to bring in andrea. on that - out. general, thank you. i want to bring in andrea. on that point, i out. general, thank you. i want to bring in andrea. on that point, as| bring in andrea. on that point, as we talk about mariupol and also, i suppose, the will or defiance of the ukrainian people, how are you seeing this, as the tactics of russia begin to unfold through these weeks? i agree with ben hodges, that russia is not _ agree with ben hodges, that russia is not going to be able to accomplish its political objectives. but it_ accomplish its political objectives. but it is_ accomplish its political objectives. but it is a — accomplish its political objectives. but it is a bumpy road between then and defeat, — but it is a bumpy road between then and defeat, i think, for the russians, _ and defeat, i think, for the russians, ultimately in large part because — russians, ultimately in large part because i— russians, ultimately in large part because i think putin calculates command — because i think putin calculates command as we heard from the us intelligence community reporting out yesterday, this is the conflict that putin_ yesterday, this is the conflict that putinjudges he cannot afford to lose _ putinjudges he cannot afford to lose and — putinjudges he cannot afford to lose. and so he is going to double down _ lose. and so he is going to double down and — lose. and so he is going to double down and we do see his strategy shifting — down and we do see his strategy shifting to go after these

population centres, because if his -oal population centres, because if his goal is _ population centres, because if his goal is to— population centres, because if his goal is to subjugate the ukrainian people. _ goal is to subjugate the ukrainian people, then he feels that he is going _ people, then he feels that he is going to — people, then he feels that he is going to have to break their will, so, unfortunately, this has taken a very deadly— so, unfortunately, this has taken a very deadly turn in the conflict and i very deadly turn in the conflict and i still— very deadly turn in the conflict and istiii think— very deadly turn in the conflict and i still think that we have a long road _ i still think that we have a long road to— i still think that we have a long road to go, things are likely to get worse _ road to go, things are likely to get worse as— road to go, things are likely to get worse as putin does double down in order— worse as putin does double down in order to _ worse as putin does double down in order to try— worse as putin does double down in order to try to accomplish his objectives. but i agree with ben, looking _ objectives. but i agree with ben, looking at— objectives. but i agree with ben, looking at the big picture, there is no way— looking at the big picture, there is no way russia can achieve its overall— no way russia can achieve its overall political objectives in this conflict — overall political ob'ectives in this conflict. ., ., ~' overall political ob'ectives in this conflict. ., ., ,, ,, ., conflict. paul, do you think ukraine will ultimately _ conflict. paul, do you think ukraine will ultimately win _ conflict. paul, do you think ukraine will ultimately win this _ conflict. paul, do you think ukraine will ultimately win this conflict? . conflict. paul, do you think ukraine will ultimately win this conflict? i l will ultimately win this conflict? i think over the long term, that seems certainly— think over the long term, that seems certainly our — think over the long term, that seems certainly our hope _ think over the long term, that seems certainly our hope and _ think over the long term, that seems certainly our hope and their- think over the long term, that seems certainly our hope and their hope, i certainly our hope and their hope, but i _ certainly our hope and their hope, but i think— certainly our hope and their hope, but i think it — certainly our hope and their hope, but i think it is — certainly our hope and their hope, but i think it is interesting - certainly our hope and their hope, but i think it is interesting in - but i think it is interesting in that— but i think it is interesting in that report _ but i think it is interesting in that report was _ but i think it is interesting in that report was that - but i think it is interesting in that report was that the - but i think it is interesting in - that report was that the ukrainian soidiers _ that report was that the ukrainian soidiers said _ that report was that the ukrainian soldiers said they _ that report was that the ukrainian soldiers said they are _ that report was that the ukrainian soldiers said they are writing - that report was that the ukrainian soldiers said they are writing like | soldiers said they are writing like i941~_ soldiers said they are writing like i94i~ what— soldiers said they are writing like 1941. what happened _ soldiers said they are writing like 1941. what happened in - soldiers said they are writing like 1941. what happened in 1941? . soldiers said they are writing like l 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle _ 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle of — 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle of stalingrad, _ 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle of stalingrad, and - 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle of stalingrad, and that - 1941. what happened in 1941? the battle of stalingrad, and that is l battle of stalingrad, and that is obviously — battle of stalingrad, and that is obviously not _ battle of stalingrad, and that is obviously not a _ battle of stalingrad, and that is obviously not a healthy - battle of stalingrad, and that is - obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir— obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir putin. _ obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir putin. he _ obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir putin. he will- obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir putin. he will no- obviously not a healthy comparison for vladimir putin. he will no more| for vladimir putin. he will no more than _ for vladimir putin. he will no more than anyone — for vladimir putin. he will no more than anyone else _ for vladimir putin. he will no more than anyone else the _ for vladimir putin. he will no more than anyone else the history- for vladimir putin. he will no more than anyone else the history of- than anyone else the history of street— than anyone else the history of

street battles, _ than anyone else the history of street battles, our— than anyone else the history of street battles, our ingrained i street battles, our ingrained home-grown _ street battles, our ingrained home—grown forces - street battles, our ingrained. home—grown forces defeating street battles, our ingrained i home—grown forces defeating an invading — home—grown forces defeating an invading army~ _ home—grown forces defeating an invading army. even— home—grown forces defeating an invading army. even if— home—grown forces defeating an invading army. even if they i home—grown forces defeating an invading army. even if they are l invading army. even if they are outnumbered. _ invading army. even if they are outnumbered. and _ invading army. even if they are outnumbered. and the - invading army. even if they are outnumbered. and the other. outnumbered. and the other comparison _ outnumbered. and the other comparison i _ outnumbered. and the other comparison i find _ outnumbered. and the other. comparison i find extraordinary given— comparison i find extraordinary given what— comparison i find extraordinary given what is _ comparison i find extraordinary given what is happening - comparison i find extraordinary given what is happening in- comparison i find extraordinary- given what is happening in mariupol and ultimately— given what is happening in mariupol and ultimately might— given what is happening in mariupol and ultimately might happen - given what is happening in mariupol and ultimately might happen in i and ultimately might happen in kharkiv— and ultimately might happen in kharkiv and _ and ultimately might happen in kharkiv and in _ and ultimately might happen in kharkiv and in kyiv _ and ultimately might happen in kharkiv and in kyiv is _ and ultimately might happen in kharkiv and in kyiv is that, i kharkiv and in kyiv is that, actually, _ kharkiv and in kyiv is that, actually, we _ kharkiv and in kyiv is that, actually, we might- kharkiv and in kyiv is that, actually, we might be i kharkiv and in kyiv is that, i actually, we might be seeing kharkiv and in kyiv is that, - actually, we might be seeing the siege _ actually, we might be seeing the siege tactics _ actually, we might be seeing the siege tacticsjust _ actually, we might be seeing the siege tactics just as _ actually, we might be seeing the siege tactics just as we - actually, we might be seeing the siege tactics just as we saw- actually, we might be seeing the siege tactics just as we saw in i actually, we might be seeing thel siege tactics just as we saw in the siege _ siege tactics just as we saw in the siege of— siege tactics just as we saw in the siege of leningrad _ siege tactics just as we saw in the siege of leningrad and _ siege tactics just as we saw in the siege of leningrad and that- siege tactics just as we saw in the siege of leningrad and that was . siege tactics just as we saw in the| siege of leningrad and that was in 1942 _ siege of leningrad and that was in 1942 why— siege of leningrad and that was in 1942 why does _ siege of leningrad and that was in 1942. why does that _ siege of leningrad and that was in 1942. why does that matter? - siege of leningrad and that was in- 1942. why does that matter? vladimir putin has— 1942. why does that matter? vladimir putin has a _ 1942. why does that matter? vladimir putin has a direct _ 1942. why does that matter? vladimir putin has a direct personal— putin has a direct personal connection— putin has a direct personal connection to _ putin has a direct personal connection to the - putin has a direct personal connection to the siege i putin has a direct personal connection to the siege of| connection to the siege of leningrad _ connection to the siege of leningrad. his— connection to the siege of leningrad. his elder- connection to the siege of. leningrad. his elder brother connection to the siege of- leningrad. his elder brother died in that siege, — leningrad. his elder brother died in that siege, a — leningrad. his elder brother died in that siege, a siege _ leningrad. his elder brother died in that siege, a siege when— leningrad. his elder brother died in that siege, a siege when many- leningrad. his elder brother died inl that siege, a siege when many men, women _ that siege, a siege when many men, women and — that siege, a siege when many men, women and children _ that siege, a siege when many men, women and children starved - that siege, a siege when many men, women and children starved to - that siege, a siege when many men, | women and children starved to death because _ women and children starved to death because they — women and children starved to death because they were _ women and children starved to death because they were cut _ women and children starved to death because they were cut off— women and children starved to death because they were cut off from - because they were cut off from humanitarian _ because they were cut off from humanitarian supplies, - because they were cut off from humanitarian supplies, food, l because they were cut off from i humanitarian supplies, food, water and medicat— humanitarian supplies, food, water and medical supplies. _ humanitarian supplies, food, water and medical supplies. you - humanitarian supplies, food, water and medical supplies. you would i humanitarian supplies, food, water. and medical supplies. you would have thought— and medical supplies. you would have thought that _ and medical supplies. you would have thought that putin _ and medical supplies. you would have thought that putin more _ and medical supplies. you would have thought that putin more than - and medical supplies. you would have thought that putin more than anyone i thought that putin more than anyone else has— thought that putin more than anyone else has it _ thought that putin more than anyone else has it in — thought that putin more than anyone else has it in the _ thought that putin more than anyone else has it in the back— thought that putin more than anyone else has it in the back of— thought that putin more than anyone else has it in the back of his - thought that putin more than anyone else has it in the back of his mind. i else has it in the back of his mind. it's else has it in the back of his mind. it's neither— else has it in the back of his mind. it's neither comparison, _ else has it in the back of his mind. j it's neither comparison, stalingrad nor leningrad. _ it's neither comparison, stalingrad nor leningrad, is— it's neither comparison, stalingrad nor leningrad, is a _ it's neither comparison, stalingrad nor leningrad, is a happy- it's neither comparison, stalingrad i nor leningrad, is a happy comparison for putin— nor leningrad, is a happy comparison for putin because _ nor leningrad, is a happy comparison for putin because the _ nor leningrad, is a happy comparison for putin because the only— nor leningrad, is a happy comparison for putin because the only outcomesl for putin because the only outcomes are either— for putin because the only outcomes are eitherthe— for putin because the only outcomes are either the blood _ for putin because the only outcomes are either the blood of— for putin because the only outcomes are either the blood of civilians- for putin because the only outcomes are either the blood of civilians on. are either the blood of civilians on his hands— are either the blood of civilians on his hands att— are either the blood of civilians on his hands all the _ are either the blood of civilians on his hands all the blood _ are either the blood of civilians on his hands all the blood of- are either the blood of civilians on his hands all the blood of his i are either the blood of civilians on his hands all the blood of his own| his hands all the blood of his own troops _ his hands all the blood of his own troops i— his hands all the blood of his own troo s. ., ., ., . ,, his hands all the blood of his own troo s. ., ., ., . ~' ., his hands all the blood of his own troos. ., ., ., . ~' ., ,., troops. i wanted to go back to you, general, interesting _ troops. i wanted to go back to you, general, interesting points-

troops. i wanted to go back to you, j general, interesting points brought up general, interesting points brought up there, but if there were a defeat, for president putin, what does that look like a? the big question would he accept it? i think there is a fee at their that if things do not go his way, which some say they have not thus far, what he might do next. —— there is a fiat there. might do next. -- there is a fiat there. , , . , might do next. -- there is a fiat there. , , ., , ., ., there. this is a guy that he would do almost — there. this is a guy that he would do almost anything. _ there. this is a guy that he would do almost anything. but - there. this is a guy that he would do almost anything. but that i there. this is a guy that he would | do almost anything. but that does not mean he will. frankly, i am sceptical that he would actually decide and he would also have the support of the general staff to use a nuclear weapon or maybe even chemical weapons in this environment. this is different from syria. but i think what we must do is continue to message the kremlin, both directly and through the chinese and others to make sure that the world will not let them take us off a cliff. in april, 130,000 young

russian men, 19 and 20 years old, will be required to report to conscription centres all across russia. i think if we have got an information campaign of the scale of a presidential election campaign, aimed at those 130,000 families, saying, look, do not let your 19—year—old son report and become cannon fodder in putin's war against ukraine. if only ten or 20,000 of those family said, no, my son is not going, that would be an earthquake inside russia and that could generate the sort of organic pressure as i think is what will lead to the end of the putin regime. an interesting concept. andrea, do you think that could be achieved, to get information from the west into the average russian home? it is the average russian home? it is challenging. _ the average russian home? it is challenging, certainly because we know _ challenging, certainly because we know that president putin is

doubling down on his repressive strategy~ — doubling down on his repressive strategy. it is really the only tool he has _ strategy. it is really the only tool he has left in his toolkit. we know the economic sanctions have been punishing, — the economic sanctions have been punishing, the response of the private — punishing, the response of the private sector and the withdrawal of all of _ private sector and the withdrawal of all of these western companies, mcdonald's, starbucks, all of them, it is impacting everyday russians. they— it is impacting everyday russians. they cannot take their money out of the banks _ they cannot take their money out of the banks. we're even signs of discontent matt roman abramovich has spoken— discontent matt roman abramovich has spoken out— discontent matt roman abramovich has spoken out prior to being sanctioned, another has spoken out against _ sanctioned, another has spoken out against the — sanctioned, another has spoken out against the concept, but getting information to russian people needs to be moved up the priority list. because — to be moved up the priority list. because there are still many russians— because there are still many russians who do not have an accurate sense _ russians who do not have an accurate sense of— russians who do not have an accurate sense of what is happening in ukraine _ sense of what is happening in ukraine. so coming up with creative ideas. _ ukraine. so coming up with creative ideas, trying to go where russians are, he _ ideas, trying to go where russians are, he is— ideas, trying to go where russians are, he is cut off twitter, facebook, they are now banned inside russia _ facebook, they are now banned inside russia but _ facebook, they are now banned inside russia. but there are some outlets like telegram for example, and i do not know— like telegram for example, and i do not know if— like telegram for example, and i do not know if there are ways we can -et not know if there are ways we can get creative. i think the bbc is

doing — get creative. i think the bbc is doing shortwave radio into russia on occasions. are there ways to beam in internet _ on occasions. are there ways to beam in internet access to all russians? but i _ in internet access to all russians? but i do _ in internet access to all russians? but i do think that making more russians— but i do think that making more russians aware of what is happening in ukraine _ russians aware of what is happening in ukraine is critical. i will say one _ in ukraine is critical. i will say one of— in ukraine is critical. i will say one of a — in ukraine is critical. i will say one of a quick point. it is also important _ one of a quick point. it is also important for the long term relationship with the west and russia — relationship with the west and russia. putin will feed them a constant — russia. putin will feed them a constant and steady diet of trying to blame — constant and steady diet of trying to blame the united states and all of the _ to blame the united states and all of the west for the economic pain russians— of the west for the economic pain russians are feeling. we do not want russians— russians are feeling. we do not want russians to _ russians are feeling. we do not want russians to resent the west. this is a walk— russians to resent the west. this is a walk with — russians to resent the west. this is a walk with the putin regime, and so we must _ a walk with the putin regime, and so we must ensure that russians get that message loud and clear, that this is— that message loud and clear, that this is about putin, not russians, because — this is about putin, not russians, because it — this is about putin, not russians, because it would be terrible to have that antique us, anti—us, anti—western sentiment be a barrier with a _ anti—western sentiment be a barrier with a better relationship with a future _ with a better relationship with a future russia.— with a better relationship with a future russia. , ., ., , ., ,, future russia. general hodges, thank ou so future russia. general hodges, thank you so much — future russia. general hodges, thank you so much for— future russia. general hodges, thank you so much forjoining _ future russia. general hodges, thank you so much forjoining us _ future russia. general hodges, thank you so much forjoining us here i future russia. general hodges, thank you so much forjoining us here on i you so much forjoining us here on context and giving us your thoughts. thank you for the privilege and

working with andrea is always a pleasure. working with andrea is always a leasure. , ., ~', pleasure. the first high-level talks between russia _ pleasure. the first high-level talks between russia and _ pleasure. the first high-level talks between russia and ukraine i pleasure. the first high-level talks between russia and ukraine since | between russia and ukraine since president putin launched his invasion at the limit had ended with no progress on a ceasefire. speaking after the meeting, ukrainian foreign minister dmytro kuleba says that a man is his russian counterpart made amounted to a surrender. —— the demands of his russian counterpart made. mr lavrov said his country's military operation was going to plan — and insisted that russia was not the agressor. translation: as for your question about whether we are planning to i attack other countries, we are not planning to attack other countries. we did not attack ukraine either. they will continue their aggression until ukraine meets their demands, and the _ until ukraine meets their demands, and the least of those demands is surrender~ — and the least of those demands is surrender. this is why it is not acceptahie _ surrender. this is why it is not acceptable to us. i've been speaking to professor kataryna wolczuk — she's a specialist in eastern

european policy and associate fellow at the russia and eurasia programme at chatham house. she gave me her assessment of the russia— ukraine talks in turkey. she gave me her assessment of the russia— ukraine talks in turkey. what we saw is quite predictable. we saw that we the discussion was over 90 minutes but nothing that was agreed. from that point of view, it was clear that point of view, it was clear that the parties are still out. there are massive differences between russia and ukraine and foreign ministers could not agree on any weight forward, including a humanitarian corridor for the besieged city of mariupol. what humanitarian corridor for the besieged city of mariupol. what do ou think besieged city of mariupol. what do you think would _ besieged city of mariupol. what do you think would work _ besieged city of mariupol. what do you think would work should i besieged city of mariupol. what do you think would work should be i besieged city of mariupol. what do you think would work should be --| you think would work should be —— what you think would wear? should they continue on the negotiating path? or are there any avenues available to them? that path? or are there any avenues available to them?— path? or are there any avenues available to them? at this moment, it is very difficult _ available to them? at this moment, it is very difficult to _ available to them? at this moment, it is very difficult to see _ available to them? at this moment, it is very difficult to see how - it is very difficult to see how diplomacy can work, not least because we note the foreign minister of russia sergei lavrov was just a messenger. he did not come with any

scope for compromise, for any negotiations, all he did was deliver the speaking points from the kremlin that we know already. so, as foreign minister of ukraine described it, it was just minister of ukraine described it, it wasjust an minister of ukraine described it, it was just an ultimatum for ukraine. until something changes, either on the ground or in the kremlin, it is not going to be fruitful. so the ground or in the kremlin, it is not going to be fruitful.— not going to be fruitful. so what would work? — not going to be fruitful. so what would work? ukraine _ not going to be fruitful. so what would work? ukraine is - not going to be fruitful. so what would work? ukraine is fighting | not going to be fruitful. so what i would work? ukraine is fighting what they perceive — would work? ukraine is fighting what they perceive as _ would work? ukraine is fighting what they perceive as its _ would work? ukraine is fighting what they perceive as its deliberation i they perceive as its deliberation for war. they are fighting against russia's aggression and plans to basically abolish ukraine as a sovereign and independent state. so it is very difficult what kind of oppression and aggression they will have to suffer in order to surrender. for russia, they have been some softening of the line in terms of actually changing slightly the demands, but as we saw this morning from sergei lavrov, the outward line is the same. ukraine

must surrender and basically implements russia's demands. and must surrender and basically implements russia's demands. and as we have seen. — implements russia's demands. and as we have seen, ukraine _ implements russia's demands. and as we have seen, ukraine very _ implements russia's demands. and as we have seen, ukraine very much i implements russia's demands. and as we have seen, ukraine very much notl we have seen, ukraine very much not prepared to do that. do you think there is a role for china in all of this? it there is a role for china in all of this? , , , this? it is very interesting with china. china, _ this? it is very interesting with china. china, the _ this? it is very interesting with china. china, the chinese i this? it is very interesting with i china. china, the chinese leaders have been rather poker faced about the whole situation. prior to invasion and at the very beginning, provided this kind of support for russia but we have seen from the un that they actually abstained rather than supported russia, and we also have seen that the financial and economic support which russia has been counting on is not exactly coming. having said that, russia is capitalising on russia's weakness and independence, and china has expressed an interest in taking over a stake in russian energy giant gas plant. that would increase russia's

dependence on china and that is not what they planned when they launched this war. ~ ., ., , ., ~' what they planned when they launched this war. ~ ., ., ,. ~' , this war. what do you think they did have in mind? _ this war. what do you think they did have in mind? it _ this war. what do you think they did have in mind? it really _ this war. what do you think they did have in mind? it really seems i this war. what do you think they did have in mind? it really seems that l have in mind? it really seems that even when — have in mind? it really seems that even when president _ have in mind? it really seems that even when president putin - have in mind? it really seems that even when president putin met i have in mind? it really seems that i even when president putin met with xijinping during the winter olympics, he was not quite clear about the scale of the invasion they were planning. so it seems not only that the russian elites, society, but also china taken by surprise with what russia has been trying to achieve and what cost in ukraine. but also what china has been watching very carefully is this western sanctions, the western response, obviously we note this is perhaps taiwan in mind, but there is no doubt that russia has acted as a bit of a guinea pig for china to see what happens when one country

becomes, starts an invasion of another country.— becomes, starts an invasion of another country. thank you. paul, what do you _ another country. thank you. paul, what do you think _ another country. thank you. paul, what do you think a _ another country. thank you. paul, what do you think a compromise l another country. thank you. paul, i what do you think a compromise could possibly look like? that what do you think a compromise could possibly look like?— possibly look like? at this stage, it is almost _ possibly look like? at this stage, it is almost impossible _ possibly look like? at this stage, it is almost impossible to - possibly look like? at this stage, it is almost impossible to look i possibly look like? at this stage, it is almost impossible to look at j it is almost impossible to look at that from — it is almost impossible to look at that from the _ it is almost impossible to look at that from the point _ it is almost impossible to look at that from the point of— it is almost impossible to look at that from the point of view- it is almost impossible to look at that from the point of view of. it is almost impossible to look at| that from the point of view of the ukrainians, — that from the point of view of the ukrainians, as— that from the point of view of the ukrainians, as the _ that from the point of view of the ukrainians, as the foreign- that from the point of view of the i ukrainians, as the foreign minister suggested — ukrainians, as the foreign minister suggested it— ukrainians, as the foreign minister suggested. it would _ ukrainians, as the foreign minister suggested. it would be _ ukrainians, as the foreign ministerj suggested. it would be tantamount ukrainians, as the foreign minister. suggested. it would be tantamount to surrender. _ suggested. it would be tantamount to surrender. the — suggested. it would be tantamount to surrender, the russian _ suggested. it would be tantamount to surrender, the russian demands- suggested. it would be tantamount to surrender, the russian demands right now. surrender, the russian demands right now so _ surrender, the russian demands right now so they— surrender, the russian demands right now so they are _ surrender, the russian demands right now so they are a _ surrender, the russian demands right now. so they are a long, _ surrender, the russian demands right now. so they are a long, long - surrender, the russian demands right now. so they are a long, long way i now. so they are a long, long way from _ now. so they are a long, long way from any— now. so they are a long, long way from any compromise. _ now. so they are a long, long way from any compromise. what - now. so they are a long, long way from any compromise. what is. from any compromise. what is interesting _ from any compromise. what is interesting is _ from any compromise. what is interesting is that _ from any compromise. what is interesting is that both - from any compromise. what is interesting is that both sides l from any compromise. what is. interesting is that both sides feel they need — interesting is that both sides feel they need to _ interesting is that both sides feel they need to sit _ interesting is that both sides feel they need to sit down. _ interesting is that both sides feel they need to sit down. on- interesting is that both sides feel they need to sit down. on the i interesting is that both sides feel. they need to sit down. on the side of the _ they need to sit down. on the side of the kremlin, _ they need to sit down. on the side of the kremlin, obviously- they need to sit down. on the side of the kremlin, obviously in- they need to sit down. on the side of the kremlin, obviously in manyl of the kremlin, obviously in many ways— of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it _ of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it seems _ of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it seems to _ of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it seems to be _ of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it seems to be a _ of the kremlin, obviously in many ways it seems to be a pr - of the kremlin, obviously in manyj ways it seems to be a pr exercise of the kremlin, obviously in many. ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make _ ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it _ ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it look— ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it look as— ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it look as though _ ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it look as though they- ways it seems to be a pr exercise to make it look as though they are i make it look as though they are trying _ make it look as though they are trying to— make it look as though they are trying to seek _ make it look as though they are trying to seek peace. _ make it look as though they are trying to seek peace. from - make it look as though they are - trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point _ trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of— trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of view, — trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of view, it_ trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of view, it is— trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of view, it is out _ trying to seek peace. from ukraine's point of view, it is out of— point of view, it is out of desperation, _ point of view, it is out of desperation, they- point of view, it is out of desperation, they will. point of view, it is out of| desperation, they will do point of view, it is out of- desperation, they will do anything to stop _ desperation, they will do anything to stop the — desperation, they will do anything to stop the bombs. _ desperation, they will do anything to stop the bombs. in _ desperation, they will do anything to stop the bombs. in terms - desperation, they will do anything to stop the bombs. in terms of. desperation, they will do anything to stop the bombs. in terms of a i to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, _ to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it_ to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it is— to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it is hard _ to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it is hard to - to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it is hard to see. . to stop the bombs. in terms of a compromise, it is hard to see. if| compromise, it is hard to see. if you have — compromise, it is hard to see. if you have one _ compromise, it is hard to see. if you have one side _ compromise, it is hard to see. if you have one side saying - compromise, it is hard to see. if you have one side saying you - compromise, it is hard to see. if. you have one side saying you must -ive you have one side saying you must give up _ you have one side saying you must give up any— you have one side saying you must give op any hope _ you have one side saying you must give on any hope of— you have one side saying you must give up any hope ofjoining - you have one side saying you must give up any hope ofjoining the - you have one side saying you must. give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms _ give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms of— give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms of its — give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms of its eu _ give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms of its eu membership - give up any hope ofjoining the west in terms of its eu membership in . in terms of its eu membership in nato— in terms of its eu membership in nato membership, _ in terms of its eu membership in nato membership, and— in terms of its eu membership in nato membership, and insistingi in terms of its eu membership in - nato membership, and insisting they will be _ nato membership, and insisting they will be a _

nato membership, and insisting they will be a neutral— nato membership, and insisting they will be a neutral country, _ nato membership, and insisting they will be a neutral country, that - will be a neutral country, that isn't _ will be a neutral country, that isn't even _ will be a neutral country, that isn't even a _ will be a neutral country, that isn't even a landing _ will be a neutral country, that isn't even a landing zone - will be a neutral country, that isn't even a landing zone for. isn't even a landing zone for ukraine _ isn't even a landing zone for ukraine. sovereign- isn't even a landing zone for- ukraine. sovereign independence isn't even a landing zone for— ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing — ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing your _ ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing your own _ ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing your own way— ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing your own way and - ukraine. sovereign independence must mean choosing your own way and not l mean choosing your own way and not being _ mean choosing your own way and not being within — mean choosing your own way and not being within the _ mean choosing your own way and not being within the sphere _ mean choosing your own way and not being within the sphere of— mean choosing your own way and not being within the sphere of influence i being within the sphere of influence of the _ being within the sphere of influence of the former— being within the sphere of influence of the former soviet _ being within the sphere of influence of the former soviet union. - being within the sphere of influence of the former soviet union. it - being within the sphere of influence of the former soviet union. it is- of the former soviet union. it is very— of the former soviet union. it is very difficult _ of the former soviet union. it is very difficult to _ of the former soviet union. it is very difficult to see _ of the former soviet union. it is very difficult to see what - of the former soviet union. it is very difficult to see what could i of the former soviet union. it is. very difficult to see what could be a compromise _ very difficult to see what could be a compromise. ultimately, - very difficult to see what could be a compromise. ultimately, the i very difficult to see what could be . a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for— a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for the — a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for the west _ a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for the west and _ a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for the west and ukraine - a compromise. ultimately, the best hope for the west and ukraine is i hope for the west and ukraine is that these — hope for the west and ukraine is that these talks _ hope for the west and ukraine is that these talks somehow - hope for the west and ukraine is that these talks somehow slow. hope for the west and ukraine is - that these talks somehow slow down the russian — that these talks somehow slow down the russian military— that these talks somehow slow down the russian military advance - that these talks somehow slow down the russian military advance in- that these talks somehow slow down the russian military advance in any. the russian military advance in any way and. _ the russian military advance in any way and. as— the russian military advance in any wayand, as the— the russian military advance in any way and, as the general— the russian military advance in any way and, as the general said - way and, as the general said earlier, _ way and, as the general said earlier, the _ way and, as the general said earlier, the logistical- way and, as the general said i earlier, the logistical exercise way and, as the general said - earlier, the logistical exercise can really— earlier, the logistical exercise can really ramp— earlier, the logistical exercise can really ramp up— earlier, the logistical exercise can really ramp up and _ earlier, the logistical exercise can really ramp up and the _ earlier, the logistical exercise can really ramp up and the ukrainiansi really ramp up and the ukrainians can restock— really ramp up and the ukrainians can restock their— really ramp up and the ukrainians can restock their weapons, - really ramp up and the ukrainians can restock their weapons, which| really ramp up and the ukrainians i can restock their weapons, which is what _ can restock their weapons, which is what they— can restock their weapons, which is what they desperately _ can restock their weapons, which is what they desperately need. - can restock their weapons, which is what they desperately need. lett- can restock their weapons, which is what they desperately need. let me throw that to _ what they desperately need. let me throw that to you, _ what they desperately need. let me throw that to you, andrea. - what they desperately need. let me throw that to you, andrea. do - what they desperately need. let me throw that to you, andrea. do you l throw that to you, andrea. do you think the talks will achieve anything or get closer to a potential compromise? i anything or get closer to a potential compromise? i agree. it is really difficult _ potential compromise? i agree. it is really difficult to _ potential compromise? i agree. it is really difficult to see _ potential compromise? i agree. it is really difficult to see the _ potential compromise? i agree. it is really difficult to see the contours i really difficult to see the contours of what _ really difficult to see the contours of what any compromise would look like at _ of what any compromise would look like at this— of what any compromise would look like at this phase, but i do think along _ like at this phase, but i do think along at— like at this phase, but i do think along at this conflict goes, the costlier— along at this conflict goes, the costlier it— along at this conflict goes, the costlier it is for president putin. ithink— costlier it is for president putin. i think it — costlier it is for president putin. i think it is _ costlier it is for president putin. i think it is going to be more and more _ i think it is going to be more and more pressure on president putin to

compromise — more pressure on president putin to compromise and negotiate. it is a costly— compromise and negotiate. it is a costly war~ — compromise and negotiate. it is a costly war. we already know the sanctions — costly war. we already know the sanctions are punishing. it is quite expensive — sanctions are punishing. it is quite expensive to fight every day in ukraine, — expensive to fight every day in ukraine, so the longer it goes on, the higher— ukraine, so the longer it goes on, the higher the cost it is for the kremlin, — the higher the cost it is for the kremlin, but also in terms of the casualties — kremlin, but also in terms of the casualties. the more casualties would _ casualties. the more casualties would come home, the more pressure there _ would come home, the more pressure there will— would come home, the more pressure there will be _ would come home, the more pressure there will be on putin. perhaps in that moment, if he is feeling a little _ that moment, if he is feeling a little insecure domestically, it could — little insecure domestically, it could push him closer to the ukrainian _ could push him closer to the ukrainian position and something that ukrainians could accept. | that ukrainians could accept. i understand. so i suppose this is something that we will have to wait for. some people are seeing it as a positive that they are sitting down together, but it does seem to come together, but it does seem to come to an abrupt stop. as we saw with turkey there, but each time that they are meeting in whatever capacity, those high—level talks, but they have had so far. stay with us, more to come off course. you can get in touch with me and some of the team on twitter. i am also on instagram. more on context coming

right up. stay with us if you can. good evening. we have had a relatively dry, quiet spell of weather over the past 2a hours or so, although many areas that have a lot of cloud on thursday, it tended to break up late in the day, so this was the picture in sutton coldfield during thursday afternoon. now, for the rest of this evening and overnight as we head into friday, it is looking more and more unsettled. cloudier, breezy, and some outbreaks of rain around too, all down to the fact we have got a weakening weather front pushing up across the uk at the moment, and another one approaching from the west here. so, a band of cloud bring lots of rain for the midlands, northern england and scotland overnight too. some clear spells holding on across parts of eastern england, northern ireland and too, but it's going to be a frost free night, temperatures early

friday between about 7—10 . now, during the day, they could be some early brightness around for some of us, but we will see the cloud increasing from the west through the day, so a bit of sunshine for part of eastern england, perhaps eastern scotland, northern ireland too, but showery rain moving its way slowly northwards and eastwards, we we have seen recently, with some of those gusts up to about 30 miles an hour. and blustery showers moving in from the south—west later, there could be some hail and some thunderstorms mixed in with some of these torrential downpours. temperatures between about 8—12 , so a touch cooler than recent days. and then, as we move through friday night into saturday, we have got the next system approaching from the atlantic. that will bring some wetter, windier weather through the weekend eventually. but actually, as we start saturday, it could be an improving picture for a while across england and wales, early rain clearing to the north, some sunny spells for northern ireland too. scotland staying showery, i think, this next band of rain then moving in from the south—west, accompanied by some really quite fresh winds as well. temperatures between about 8—12 degrees on saturday, it looks like sunday will be another fairly blustery sort of day. in fact, low pressure dominating through sunday.

sunny spells, it won't be a wash—out, but some heavy showers rotating around that area of low pressure blowing in on that brisk breeze. top temperatures somewhere between about 9—13 degrees on sunday. and then, as we lose that area of low pressure, eventually things looking a bit dry and quieter, not as many isobars on the map as we head into monday. could still be a few showers around in the north and north—west through the day on monday, but things looking drier, brighter and a touch warmer as we head through monday and into tuesday. temperatures on tuesday could be 16 or 17 degrees. bye for now.

hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching context on bbc news. ukraine's port city mariupol continues to face heavy shelling by russia. the city's deputy mayor says at least 1200 people have been killed there — with some buried in a mass grave. the uk introduces a new streamlined visa system for ukrainian refugees from tuesday, after growing criticism that not enough was being done for ukrainians trying to reach britain. uk foreign secretary says russia is committing war crimes in ukraine — amid growing calls for an international war crimes investigation. tonight with the context, andrea kendall—taylor, former deputy national intelligence officer for russia and eurasia, in the office of the director of national intelligence and paul waugh, chief political commentator at the inewspaper.

welcome back. the mayor of the ukrainian capital kyiv says nearly two million people , around half of the city's population , have fled since the russain invasion began. its forces are continuing to shell the south—eastern port of mariupol — where the international committee of the red cross is warning that many people there have run out of food and are living without water or gas. (map this is the latest map — showing the presence of russian troops in red. as well as mariupol and kharkiv — russian troops are closing in on the capital, kyiv — where there have been more calls for international support and help in evacuating civilians. we are joined now by sviato—slav yurash — he is the youngest ever ukrainian mp and is still in kyiv. thank you for taking time with us.

how would you describe your city right now as you walk around? i believe you are armed and ready to defend? ., . , defend? prepared for anything. the reali is defend? prepared for anything. the reality is it's — defend? prepared for anything. the reality is it's of _ defend? prepared for anything. the reality is it's of relevance _ defend? prepared for anything. the reality is it's of relevance here. - reality is it's of relevance here. the city has pushed back every single russian encouraging the beginning of the war and has upped its defence is that every single point to a way she's cannot enter the park —— town on a post anyway. they will face millions and those who have stayed and received weapons and training and joined the various unions that will fight. myself, the president, and the government is all here and the battle in different towns around tms to keep the supply lines open to the west, south, and allow the city to receive help. you are still defiant. _

allow the city to receive help. you are still defiant. i— allow the city to receive help. you are still defiant. i can hear it in your voice. are still defiant. i can hear it in yourvoice. if are still defiant. i can hear it in your voice. if you are got in touch with me and asked you to keep yourself motivated during such difficult time? it’s yourself motivated during such difficult time?— difficult time? it's not my motivation _ difficult time? it's not my motivation that _ difficult time? it's not my motivation that matters l difficult time? it's not my l motivation that matters it's difficult time? it's not my - motivation that matters it's the result of our people. and when people have a clear response to what is russia is doing. they destroy our nation and make us a part of russia. it is not what other people want. before the events of 2014 that is clear as ever now is the were rages to images of kids being cured and buildings being shelled and engaging all over. my people and they nation is ready as ever to destroy whatever russia throws at us because we have nowhere else to go. this is our country and we are staying here whatever comes.—

country and we are staying here whatever comes. what does ukraine work ear whatever comes. what does ukraine work year for — whatever comes. what does ukraine work year for me _ whatever comes. what does ukraine work year for me to _ whatever comes. what does ukraine work year for me to be _ whatever comes. what does ukraine work year for me to be successful? i work year for me to be successful? the truth is basically we need everything. all is needed, always welcome. we are faking is the second—biggest army in the world. the biggest state in the world. in that fight we are very much welcoming the assistance. in support before the war, we are putting support to good use as we have destroying tanks, russian tanks that are invading my country from every side. not to mention the fact that all that was discussed in the british parliament right now is music to our ears and it gives us more resolve and more power to the fight suppressor who is destroying notjust ukraine but any kind of motion. d0 notjust ukraine but any kind of motion. ,, . notjust ukraine but any kind of motion. i. . . notjust ukraine but any kind of motion. . . a

motion. do you have a plan if tms does come _ motion. do you have a plan if tms does come under _ motion. do you have a plan if tms does come under an _ motion. do you have a plan if tms does come under an all-out - motion. do you have a plan if tms i does come under an all-out assault. does come under an all—out assault. there has been talked about for the past few weeks there is a convoy that's all thank eve that we continually, is there a plan to leave or reconvene the government elsewhere if that happened? the truth is that _ elsewhere if that happened? tie: truth is that we are elsewhere if that happened? ti2 truth is that we are staying in our capital. they try to protect convoy, that conflict is no match for millions that state mtf and defending their city. russians mobilise and millions have on paper and send them into atf and ukraine. we will make the city standing around. whatever russian style because again they city is notjust the capital of ukraine it's the origin of our nation and the arranging of our history and we cannot give it up in any sort of way. the point is this pansy ask about our site anywhere for any eventuality but we are not even up to safety information tanks come

more than anything else. thea;r to safety information tanks come more than anything else. they help the need more than anything else. they help they need from _ more than anything else. they help they need from the _ more than anything else. they help they need from the international i they need from the international community, how would you assess how successful that has been. it's been quite positive. the united states along with many allies continue to send military aid to ukraine and we also have the announcement today in the united states of a very significant economic aid package to ukraine. i significant economic aid package to ukraine. ~' ,, . , ukraine. i think the united states is workin: ukraine. i think the united states is working in _ ukraine. i think the united states is working in conjunction - ukraine. i think the united states is working in conjunction with - ukraine. i think the united states is working in conjunction with uk | is working in conjunction with uk and all nato allies to try to improve ukraine's ability to defend itself against russian aggression. i think we have to prepare for a sustained effort. it's very likely this will be a prolonged conflict

and we will need to continue to work with ukrainians hearing what is they need and continuing to provide anti—and anti—tank missiles but also the humanitarian and economic aid they require. the humanitarian and economic aid they require-— the humanitarian and economic aid they require. what about that public mood in the — they require. what about that public mood in the uk _ they require. what about that public mood in the uk about _ they require. what about that public mood in the uk about when - they require. what about that public| mood in the uk about when it comes to helping and in what way, somebody example of the mp5 and other young people, most men between 18 and 60 that have been called on to defend their country?— their country? they made a really aood their country? they made a really good point _ their country? they made a really good point about _ their country? they made a really good point about the _ their country? they made a really good point about the british - good point about the british parliament— good point about the british parliament showing - good point about the british parliament showing clearlyi good point about the british i parliament showing clearly and loudly — parliament showing clearly and loudly this— parliament showing clearly and loudly this weekend _ parliament showing clearly and loudly this weekend last - parliament showing clearly and loudly this weekend last weeki parliament showing clearly and i loudly this weekend last week the support— loudly this weekend last week the support for— loudly this weekend last week the support for ukrainian _ loudly this weekend last week the support for ukrainian parliaments| support for ukrainian parliaments fellow— support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps — support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps i_ support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps. i was _ support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps. i was in— support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps. i was in the - support for ukrainian parliaments fellow mps. i was in the chamber| fellow mps. i was in the chamber when _ fellow mps. i was in the chamber when zelensky— fellow mps. i was in the chamber when zelensky made _ fellow mps. i was in the chamber when zelensky made that - fellow mps. i was in the chamberj when zelensky made that historic address— when zelensky made that historic address over _ when zelensky made that historic address over the _ when zelensky made that historic address over the access - when zelensky made that historic address over the access to - when zelensky made that historic address over the access to videoi address over the access to video link and — address over the access to video link and the _ address over the access to video link and the standing _ address over the access to video link and the standing ovation- address over the access to video link and the standing ovation isi link and the standing ovation is quite _ link and the standing ovation is

quite but — link and the standing ovation is quite but previously— link and the standing ovation is quite but previously the - link and the standing ovation is. quite but previously the previous week— quite but previously the previous week when— quite but previously the previous week when the _ quite but previously the previous week when the ukrainian - quite but previously the previous- week when the ukrainian ambassador turned _ week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up _ week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in _ week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in the — week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in the gallery— week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in the gallery he _ week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in the gallery he got- week when the ukrainian ambassador turned up in the gallery he got a - turned up in the gallery he got a standing — turned up in the gallery he got a standing ovation— turned up in the gallery he got a standing ovation as _ turned up in the gallery he got a standing ovation as well - turned up in the gallery he got a standing ovation as well but - standing ovation as well but what's important — standing ovation as well but what's important is — standing ovation as well but what's important is we _ standing ovation as well but what's important is we are _ standing ovation as well but what's important is we are not— standing ovation as well but what's important is we are not sending. standing ovation as well but what'sl important is we are not sending our applause. _ important is we are not sending our applause. we — important is we are not sending our applause. we are _ important is we are not sending our applause, we are sending _ important is we are not sending our applause, we are sending our- important is we are not sending our. applause, we are sending our weapons and they— applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek — applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek to — applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek to be _ applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek to be change _ applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek to be change here - applause, we are sending our weapons and they seek to be change here was l and they seek to be change here was the defence secretary— and they seek to be change here was the defence secretary and _ and they seek to be change here was the defence secretary and i- and they seek to be change here was the defence secretary and i think- the defence secretary and i think they would — the defence secretary and i think they would send _ the defence secretary and i think they would send *_ the defence secretary and i think they would send * streak- the defence secretary and i think they would send * streak high - they would send * streak high velocity— they would send * streak high velocity missiles— they would send * streak high velocity missiles that - they would send * streak high velocity missiles that can - they would send * streak high| velocity missiles that can take they would send * streak high - velocity missiles that can take out aircraft _ velocity missiles that can take out aircraft and — velocity missiles that can take out aircraft and it's _ velocity missiles that can take out aircraft and it's obviously- aircraft and it's obviously hopefully— aircraft and it's obviously hopefully a _ aircraft and it's obviously hopefully a big _ aircraft and it's obviously hopefully a big game - aircraft and it's obviously- hopefully a big game changer in aircraft and it's obviously— hopefully a big game changer in the war yet— hopefully a big game changer in the war yet another— hopefully a big game changer in the war yet another weapon _ hopefully a big game changer in the war yet another weapon in - hopefully a big game changer in the war yet another weapon in the - war yet another weapon in the arsenal— war yet another weapon in the arsenal of— war yet another weapon in the arsenal of ukraine _ war yet another weapon in the arsenal of ukraine voices - war yet another weapon in the arsenal of ukraine voices andl war yet another weapon in the . arsenal of ukraine voices and we war yet another weapon in the - arsenal of ukraine voices and we are hearing _ arsenal of ukraine voices and we are hearing reports— arsenal of ukraine voices and we are hearing reports that _ arsenal of ukraine voices and we are hearing reports that when _ arsenal of ukraine voices and we are hearing reports that when they- hearing reports that when they ukrainian — hearing reports that when they ukrainian troops _ hearing reports that when they ukrainian troops some - hearing reports that when they ukrainian troops some of- hearing reports that when theyj ukrainian troops some of them hearing reports that when they- ukrainian troops some of them use the british— ukrainian troops some of them use the british anti—tank— ukrainian troops some of them use the british anti—tank missiles - ukrainian troops some of them use the british anti—tank missiles theyi the british anti—tank missiles they shalt _ the british anti—tank missiles they shalt god — the british anti—tank missiles they shalt god save _ the british anti—tank missiles they shalt god save the _ the british anti—tank missiles they shalt god save the queen- the british anti—tank missiles they shalt god save the queen when . the british anti—tank missiles they i shalt god save the queen when they use them _ shalt god save the queen when they use them again — shalt god save the queen when they use them again at _ shalt god save the queen when they use them again at is _ shalt god save the queen when they use them again at is important - use them again at is important when it comes _ use them again at is important when it comes to— use them again at is important when it comes to warfare. _ use them again at is important when it comes to warfare. it's _ use them again at is important when it comes to warfare. it's not - use them again at is important when it comes to warfare. it's not just - use them again at is important when it comes to warfare. it's not just a i it comes to warfare. it's not just a matter of— it comes to warfare. it's not just a matter of sentiment, _ it comes to warfare. it's not just a matter of sentiment, it's - it comes to warfare. it's not just a matter of sentiment, it's a - it comes to warfare. it's not just a matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical — matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical help _ matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical help as _ matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical help as well. - matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical help as well. [- matter of sentiment, it's a matter of practical help as well.— of practical help as well. i would like to come _ of practical help as well. i would like to come back _ of practical help as well. i would like to come back to _ of practical help as well. i would like to come back to you - of practical help as well. i would like to come back to you as - of practical help as well. i would like to come back to you as well| of practical help as well. i would - like to come back to you as well and mentioned what people wanted to ask you. this is do you know the outpouring of support from citizens throughout the world and i'm wondering when you're walking through map i want ak—47 or speaking

with other people do you know what other people around the world are saying? taste other people around the world are sa in: ? ~ ., �* other people around the world are sa inc? ~ ., �* , other people around the world are sa in? ~ .,�* , . . saying? we don't 'ust hear that, we have volunteers — saying? we don'tjust hear that, we have volunteers coming. _ saying? we don'tjust hear that, we have volunteers coming. i - saying? we don'tjust hear that, we have volunteers coming. i was - have volunteers coming. i was meeting tonight with a british woman who is leaking for tenuous commanders and there are volunteers joining the fight and he was telling me how he sold his apple watch and how he sold his positions in scotland and decided to come to ukraine to fight again to fight for no money and thatjust because of our nation and people so we are seeing and hearing that and we welcome that in every single prayer matters to our god—fearing nation but i can all that support and much gives us opportunity to implement the no—fly zone we ask from the world. if you give us means we can try and do that ourselves but again

we still require as much help as possible to try and get back second—biggest army in the realm and again all the things you are sending to put to good use in defence of international law. 5m? to put to good use in defence of international law.— international law. stay with us, thank you _ international law. stay with us, thank you very _ international law. stay with us, thank you very much _ international law. stay with us, thank you very much for - international law. stay with us, thank you very much for your . thank you very much for your thoughts because i want to attend to another aspect here in the uk, the government has unveiled new rules for ukrainian refugees trying to come to britain so does a passport or id cards will be able to apply for uk visas online and it's from tuesday. he would only affect people applying under the scheme where they canjoinfamily applying under the scheme where they canjoin family members applying under the scheme where they can join family members already in the uk in the home office had been criticised for its lack of these applications enters to help refugees get into the uk. let me turn to paul on that particular issue. it's been quite something how much discussion there has been about this. most people have an opinion on it. the

question in the uk was should they be able to come from ukraine without any checks or do the checks need to be done before a person enters the country, what are your thoughts? i can what's been significant here is the trig _ can what's been significant here is the trig gap— can what's been significant here is the trig gap that's _ can what's been significant here is the big gap that's between - can what's been significant here is the big gap that's between the - the big gap that's between the british— the big gap that's between the british public— the big gap that's between the british public and _ the big gap that's between the british public and the - the big gap that's between the british public and the strong. the big gap that's between the i british public and the strong will to give _ british public and the strong will to give as — british public and the strong will to give as much _ british public and the strong will to give as much help— british public and the strong will to give as much help as - british public and the strong willj to give as much help as possible british public and the strong will. to give as much help as possible to ukrainian _ to give as much help as possible to ukrainian refugees— to give as much help as possible to ukrainian refugees in— to give as much help as possible to ukrainian refugees in the _ to give as much help as possible to ukrainian refugees in the british i ukrainian refugees in the british government— ukrainian refugees in the british government lagging _ ukrainian refugees in the british government lagging behind - ukrainian refugees in the british government lagging behind that| government lagging behind that sentiment~ _ government lagging behind that sentiment. the _ government lagging behind that sentiment. the british - government lagging behind that. sentiment. the british government seems _ sentiment. the british government seems to— sentiment. the british government seems to be — sentiment. the british government seems to be obsessed _ sentiment. the british government seems to be obsessed with - sentiment. the british government seems to be obsessed with the - seems to be obsessed with the security— seems to be obsessed with the security fears _ seems to be obsessed with the security fears about _ seems to be obsessed with the security fears about possible i security fears about possible russian _ security fears about possible russian infiltrators - security fears about possible russian infiltrators and - security fears about possible - russian infiltrators and somehow disguising — russian infiltrators and somehow disguising themselves— russian infiltrators and somehow disguising themselves as - russian infiltrators and somehow i disguising themselves as ukrainian women _ disguising themselves as ukrainian women are — disguising themselves as ukrainian women are children _ disguising themselves as ukrainian women are children to _ disguising themselves as ukrainian women are children to infiltrate - women are children to infiltrate britain — women are children to infiltrate britain but _ women are children to infiltrate britain but that's _ women are children to infiltrate britain but that's clearly- women are children to infiltrate britain but that's clearly in - women are children to infiltrate i britain but that's clearly in many senses _ britain but that's clearly in many senses ludicrous _ britain but that's clearly in many senses ludicrous and _ britain but that's clearly in many senses ludicrous and there - britain but that's clearly in many senses ludicrous and there is - senses ludicrous and there is obvious— senses ludicrous and there is obvious trasic— senses ludicrous and there is obvious basic security- senses ludicrous and there is obvious basic security checks senses ludicrous and there is - obvious basic security checks but today— obvious basic security checks but today the — obvious basic security checks but today the home _ obvious basic security checks but today the home secretary- obvious basic security checks but today the home secretary saw. obvious basic security checks but today the home secretary saw a i obvious basic security checks but - today the home secretary saw a sense saw a _ today the home secretary saw a sense saw a massive — today the home secretary saw a sense saw a massive public— today the home secretary saw a sense saw a massive public mood _ today the home secretary saw a sense saw a massive public mood on - today the home secretary saw a sense saw a massive public mood on this - saw a massive public mood on this and it's— saw a massive public mood on this and it's not— saw a massive public mood on this and it's notjust _ saw a massive public mood on this and it's notjust labour— saw a massive public mood on this and it's notjust labour mps- saw a massive public mood on this and it's notjust labour mps at- saw a massive public mood on this and it's notjust labour mps at the| and it's notjust labour mps at the british response _ and it's notjust labour mps at the british response and _ and it's notjust labour mps at the british response and how- and it's notjust labour mps at the british response and how much. and it's not just labour mps at the i british response and how much this

response _ british response and how much this response as — british response and how much this response as i — british response and how much this response as i say— british response and how much this response as i say having _ british response and how much this response as i say having a - british response and how much this response as i say having a providedj response as i say having a provided both the _ response as i say having a provided both the president _ response as i say having a provided both the president and _ response as i say having a provided both the president and the - both the president and the ambassador— both the president and the ambassador last _ both the president and the ambassador last week- both the president and the | ambassador last week they both the president and the - ambassador last week they felt slightly— ambassador last week they felt slightly uneasy _ ambassador last week they felt slightly uneasy that _ ambassador last week they felt slightly uneasy that we - ambassador last week they felt slightly uneasy that we weren'tj slightly uneasy that we weren't doing _ slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough— slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough and _ slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough and it's - slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough and it's part- slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough and it's part of. slightly uneasy that we weren't doing enough and it's part of al doing enough and it's part of a inferiority _ doing enough and it's part of a inferiority complex— doing enough and it's part of a inferiority complex where - inferiority complex where post-brexit _ inferiority complex where post—brexit britain - inferiority complex where post—brexit britain that l inferiority complex where - post—brexit britain that somehow inferiority complex where _ post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as _ post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though— post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we _ post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we have _ post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we have to _ post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we have to say- post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we have to say we - post—brexit britain that somehow we feel as though we have to say we are world leading — feel as though we have to say we are world leading everything _ feel as though we have to say we are world leading everything and - feel as though we have to say we are world leading everything and we - world leading everything and we weren't— world leading everything and we weren't worldly— world leading everything and we weren't worldly —— _ world leading everything and we weren't worldly —— world - world leading everything and wej weren't worldly —— world leading when _ weren't worldly —— world leading when it— weren't worldly —— world leading when it came _ weren't worldly —— world leading when it came to— weren't worldly —— world leading when it came to helping - weren't worldly —— world leadingl when it came to helping refugees weren't worldly —— world leading - when it came to helping refugees we are leading _ when it came to helping refugees we are leading the — when it came to helping refugees we are leading the way— when it came to helping refugees we are leading the way when _ when it came to helping refugees we are leading the way when it- when it came to helping refugees we are leading the way when it comes . when it came to helping refugees we| are leading the way when it comes to military— are leading the way when it comes to military support _ are leading the way when it comes to military support and _ are leading the way when it comes to military support and direct _ are leading the way when it comes to military support and direct aid - are leading the way when it comes to military support and direct aid but. military support and direct aid but finally— military support and direct aid but finally the — military support and direct aid but finally the government _ military support and direct aid but finally the government has - military support and direct aid but finally the government has got. military support and direct aid but finally the government has got iti finally the government has got it right obviously— finally the government has got it right obviously we _ finally the government has got it right obviously we are _ finally the government has got it right obviously we are not - finally the government has got it right obviously we are not going| finally the government has got it l right obviously we are not going to take as _ right obviously we are not going to take as many— right obviously we are not going to take as many on— right obviously we are not going to take as many on the _ right obviously we are not going to take as many on the brink- right obviously we are not going to take as many on the brink —— - take as many on the brink —— neighbouring areas— take as many on the brink —— neighbouring areas but - take as many on the brink —— neighbouring areas but if- take as many on the brink —— neighbouring areas but if we| take as many on the brink —— - neighbouring areas but if we could do a little — neighbouring areas but if we could do a little bit — neighbouring areas but if we could do a little bit and _ neighbouring areas but if we could do a little bit and i'm _ neighbouring areas but if we could do a little bit and i'm really- neighbouring areas but if we could do a little bit and i'm really proudi do a little bit and i'm really proud of that _ do a little bit and i'm really proud of that iti— do a little bit and i'm really proud of that. . do a little bit and i'm really proud of that. , _, ., . of that. if this conversation about takin: of that. if this conversation about taking refugees _ of that. if this conversation about taking refugees from _ of that. if this conversation about taking refugees from ukraine? it| of that. if this conversation about. taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been taking refugees from ukraine? it has rrot been as — taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been as salient _ taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been as salient for— taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been as salient for the _ taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been as salient for the us. - taking refugees from ukraine? it has not been as salient for the us. we know— not been as salient for the us. we know that — not been as salient for the us. we know that the door is open to

ukrainians and want to highlight to the other— ukrainians and want to highlight to the other piece of this and part of supporting ukrainians is the effort to push— supporting ukrainians is the effort to push back on putin and his regime and that's— to push back on putin and his regime and that's another instance where the united — and that's another instance where the united states and the eu while working _ the united states and the eu while working in— the united states and the eu while working in conjunction pushing back and they— working in conjunction pushing back and they have been a number of very positive _ and they have been a number of very positive announcements coming out of the uk _ positive announcements coming out of the uk not _ positive announcements coming out of the uk notjust on the anti—aircraft missiles _ the uk notjust on the anti—aircraft missiles but the intent to cut oil production by the end of the year and the _ production by the end of the year and the sanctions on the oligarchs that were — and the sanctions on the oligarchs that were announced today so this is all part of— that were announced today so this is all part of supporting ukrainians pushing — all part of supporting ukrainians pushing back on president putin and making _ pushing back on president putin and making sure there is this solid wall of support. — making sure there is this solid wall of support, us, uk and eu are working— of support, us, uk and eu are working in— of support, us, uk and eu are working in conjunction and that is providing — working in conjunction and that is providing that support to be ukrainian people trying to constrict and constrain president putin's ability— and constrain president putin's ability to— and constrain president putin's ability to sustain this conflict.

thank— ability to sustain this conflict. thank you _ ability to sustain this conflict. thank you forjoining us. us director of national intelligence says russian forces are operating with a �*reckless disregard' for civilians as they face stronger—than—expected resistance in ukraine, and that american intelligence agencies are tracking their actions to hold them to account. this comes as vice president kamala harris offered support for an international war crimes investigation into russia's invasion of ukraine we are joined by stephen rapp, former international prosecutor and former ambassador—at—large for global criminaljustice thank you for taking some time with us today. the first question that comes to mind as he watched these events unfold over the past few weeks is what we are witnessing could have constituted a war crime that has been carried out by russia and ukraine. it is

that has been carried out by russia and ukraine-— and ukraine. it is a war crime to intentionally attack _ and ukraine. it is a war crime to intentionally attack civilians or l intentionally attack civilians or civilian infrastructure and if they were crime to indiscriminately attack a city without distinguishing between military and civilian targets. if it were crime to attack a nuclear power plant where any military advantage you can get by bombarding it is overridden by the disproportionate risk to human life. so the pattern we see at the first five or six days is consistent with the kind of russian forces committed their own country in chechnya 20 or so years ago and it's appointed a commission of through them bombardment of hospitals and civilian neighbourhoods in aleppo doing their support of president assad in syria and the last decade. the question may be how difficult would it be to prove it or prove

intent for example? you would it be to prove it or prove intent for example?— would it be to prove it or prove intent for example? you can prove it b a intent for example? you can prove it by a pattern- — intent for example? you can prove it by a pattern- if— intent for example? you can prove it by a pattern- if you _ intent for example? you can prove it by a pattern. if you attack _ intent for example? you can prove it by a pattern. if you attack every - by a pattern. if you attack every hospital or civilian infrastructure where there are no military targets whatsoever and you do that on a consistent basis that pattern alone can give rise to an influence that you are intentionally attacking civilians and we want to have a prosecutor and three times as much evidence as you think is reasonable and you need information from the ukrainians about where their forces were on those days and times and at the end of the day you can get information from inside the command structure of the russian federation and that's useful as well. given this kind of pattern there is no reasonable explanation. there is no military target that the russians are shooting at when they are dropping bombs on a children's

hospital or whether they are besieging a whole town and siege warfare could have happened in the 14th century but it does not happen now, they have to provide humanitarian access and you don't have to believe, you're entitled to stay in your own home but you need food and nourishment and if you squeeze people that's the war crime of starvation so i think this is the strongest case we have seen since world war ii. strongest case we have seen since world war lt— world war ii. there is a lot of potential _ world war ii. there is a lot of potential scenarios _ world war ii. there is a lot of potential scenarios you - world war ii. there is a lot of potential scenarios you have l world war ii. there is a lot of. potential scenarios you have laid out. what would be the process for prosecuting and who would be prosecuted in this case? would it lead directly to vladimir putin? it must be to him. in international justice the crimes committed by bosnian voices in the next country over and in bosnia i prosecuted charles taylor and what the rebels were doing in sierra leone and you

have to connect the dots and show that that leader was responsible but under international law there is the doctrine of responsibility and is responsible for what they do below him if he has notice of it or has reason to know and if he fails to take action so in this situation it's clear that putin is in charge and he made the decision here when he talks about the nuclear alert on television the other day is on the fence was taken aback. it is putin that is responsible and so naturally there are a number of people in charge including the perpetrators but it can be right back up the chain and it would need to. $5 but it can be right back up the chain and it would need to. as a of issues and — chain and it would need to. as a of issues and thinking _ chain and it would need to. as a of issues and thinking like _ chain and it would need to. as a of issues and thinking like this. - chain and it would need to. as a of| issues and thinking like this. would it be the international criminal courts russia is not a signatory and the international court ofjustice

for example they have to refer to the un security council and russia would veto such judgement if in fact they rolled in that way. where would you do it or how would you do it? it's been done having been commenced by the international criminal court if russia commits crimes against russian citizens in chechnya which would not happen but if russia commits crimes on a country to the icc then it's just like commits crimes on a country to the icc then it'sjust like me committing a crime in london can make up the british authorities to decide where i would be childlike —— charged i can't say i'm not a citizen of the uk, you can't prosecute me. he gavejurisdiction to the a for these crimes and they

said it's automatic and icc is also the prosecutor has commenced an investigation and he came in the end arrest warrants and at the end of this investigation in weeks orjust a few months seek international arrest warrants and the challenge with putin in this case i think want to be thejurisdiction with putin in this case i think want to be the jurisdiction and not the breathtaking act of putting international or otherwise begins the individual that's charged. let me throw that to you paul. being able to arrest or issue a warrant for an arrest, what do you think about war crimes in this scenario?

the major obvious obstacle to the war crimes — the major obvious obstacle to the war crimes being pursued is extradition, you need to extradite from _ extradition, you need to extradite from a _ extradition, you need to extradite from a country and that suspect and there's— from a country and that suspect and there's no— from a country and that suspect and there's no way under the current regime _ there's no way under the current regime obviously putin would go anywhere near being extradited. the problem _ anywhere near being extradited. the problem is _ anywhere near being extradited. the problem is that talking a long way down _ problem is that talking a long way down the — problem is that talking a long way down the road in terms of how you can get— down the road in terms of how you can get that — down the road in terms of how you can get that outcome and you are aware _ can get that outcome and you are aware looking at the outcome to send aware looking at the outcome to send a message _ aware looking at the outcome to send a message to generals in the field that you _ a message to generals in the field that you may be responsible for war crimes— that you may be responsible for war crimes or— that you may be responsible for war crimes or end up injail and you'll be liable — crimes or end up injail and you'll be liable for— crimes or end up injail and you'll be liable for those individual acts that take — be liable for those individual acts that take place and let us put as well and — that take place and let us put as well and that the value but i think as far— well and that the value but i think as far as— well and that the value but i think as far as the ukrainians are concerned it matters much more than the legal— concerned it matters much more than the legal battle. i concerned it matters much more than the legal battle.— the legal battle. i agree with everything — the legal battle. i agree with everything everyone - the legal battle. i agree with everything everyone has - the legal battle. i agree with| everything everyone has said the legal battle. i agree with - everything everyone has said that i

have studied authoritarian regimes from a long time and the one thing i highlighted is what that does to putin's headspace. the days if they expect they will be detailed by exiled or killed including being drug off to the icc and the reaction is they begin their heels. he is going to double down and use all the tools at his disposal in order to prevent him from being overthrown and drove up to the icc. we should just be mindful that putin is in and the situation with the risky behaviour we should expect from putin especially if he feels he needs to cling on to power to the very end. needs to cling on to power to the ve end. 1. . ~ needs to cling on to power to the ve end. 1, . ,, ., . ., needs to cling on to power to the ve end. ., . ., ,, very end. back into a so to speak. what evidence _ very end. back into a so to speak. what evidence would _ very end. back into a so to speak. what evidence would you - very end. back into a so to speak. what evidence would you gather. very end. back into a so to speak. | what evidence would you gather in this case with ukraine and russia?

be gathering the evidence in the air and from _ be gathering the evidence in the air and from there information he would be that— and from there information he would be that kind of information, satellite _ be that kind of information, satellite imagery that can share the pattern _ satellite imagery that can share the pattern of— satellite imagery that can share the pattern of them bombardment and evidence _ pattern of them bombardment and evidence and photos taken by ukrainian civil society and may be ukrainian — ukrainian civil society and may be ukrainian authorities themselves and am now— ukrainian authorities themselves and am now in— ukrainian authorities themselves and am now in response to my colleagues one of— am now in response to my colleagues one of the _ am now in response to my colleagues one of the things that happened in europe _ one of the things that happened in europe process of you is if they wanted to— europe process of you is if they wanted to get back into the international community they had to comply— international community they had to comply with international court orders — comply with international court orders and russia is going under all of the _ orders and russia is going under all of the sanctions and if they want does _ of the sanctions and if they want does mcdonald's open again and russia _ does mcdonald's open again and russia is— does mcdonald's open again and russia is going to be able to use mastercard and have access to global economy— mastercard and have access to global economy they would have to comply will stop _

economy they would have to comply will stop we have to leave it there. thank _ will stop we have to leave it there. thank you — will stop we have to leave it there. thank you for speaking to us. we have been watching context on the bbc. we have had a relatively dry, quiet spell of weather over the past 24 hours or so, although many areas that have a lot of cloud on thursday, it tended to break up late we had a weak weather front facing away. generally over the next few days things are looking unsettled. breezy with rain around at times and spells the sun shines in the forecast will not be a wash—out. we have the funds from the southwest and a lot moving failing to friday. a windy day then we have seen recently and some bright and dry weather used in england and scotland as well that this area of powder work its name from the southwest

through the day bringing outbreaks of rain and it will be followed by sunny spells and heavy showers with hail and thunderstorms southwest england and wales later on. unsettled on friday with temperatures around nine to 13 degrees. once we lose that front and heading to friday night into saturday building will be lighter but we will keep quiet into saturday morning and outbreaks of patchy rain across the uk. it will be a frost free start to the weekend on saturday we will see bright letter as the first fund close to the northeast and get another one approaching from the atlantic but before it arrives from the southwest beings will be improving for a time for england, wales, northern ireland it was the brightness developing on saturday and scotland skiing salary are a good part of the day and a windy weather arrives from southwest later on. temperatures eight to 12 degrees cooler than it's been over recent days. into the second half of the weekend this area of low

pressure will dominate the weather as we head into sunday. a blustery day with heavy showers rotating around the area of low pressure and because the costs of 40 mph or more than that plenty of showers could become dry and bright in the south later in the day and temperatures eight to 12 or 13 degrees in warm spots. into monday it looks like it really was that low pressure to the north of the uk and he was he quite spells of weather monday. that's windy for most of us, blustery and charlie across scotland first thing mbe could see rain elsewhere across england and wales but it looks like it should fizzle out in the day and temperatures were left at 13 or 14 in the south in double figures further north with most areas as well. the amount of air is on its way moving from the south hitting entities they now so tuesday will have some rain in the south and east first and looks like it will fade

away leaving friday with some sign and this breezy. as a friend in the northwest with some clout and outbreaks of rain across scotland and ireland as well. best of the sunshine south and he and temperatures up to 16 degrees. from maybe a jet stream will generally push towards the north of uk having high—pressure typical but some uncertainty about the position of the high—pressure and we could see things warmer and cooler but predominantly next week things could be dry and settled and that's windy and warmer chance of summary especially towards the north and

tonight at ten — a special report from inside kharkiv — on the frontline with the ukranian army. we're with ukrainian forces fighting to defend the city from russia's relentless assault. and if these tactics are unfamiliar to you then you haven't been paying attention. because this is a russian attack playbook perfected in over ten years of war in syria. more than 2 million people are said to have fled the capital kyiv — but others have arrived, after escaping from the russian soldiers moving ever closer to the city. they stand, like...