tv The Papers BBC News March 11, 2022 10:30pm-10:46pm GMT
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are kevin schofield, political editor at huffpost uk and mo hussein, a former conservative adviser. let's start with the telegraph, which leads with a call from jeremy hunt to increase defence spending, following the russian invasion of ukraine. as russian forces build up to the west of kyiv,
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the times says the capital is ready to face the impending onslaught. the guardian leads with french president emmanuel macron�*s condemnation of borisjohnson, for not welcoming ukrainian refugees. "hope amid horror" — the mirror says a ukrainian mother who fled a maternity ward after it was bombed, has safely given birth to a baby girl. and the daily mail says the queen has pulled out of monday's commonwealth day service, sparking concerns over her health. so let's plunge in, kevin, do you want to kick us off with the front—page of the times, please? yeah. it a striking image as you can see of a soldier standing in a trench waiting for the russian onslaught. it is one or two other front—pages. it is looking as though the... attempt on kyiv is coming very soon. clearly the russians i think would have wanted to have
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reached this stage much sooner than they have and it is a huge testament to the fighting spirit of the ukrainians that it has taken the russians this long to make the progress that they have. it now looks as if their offensive on the capital will happen sooner rather than later. it is great reporting in the times by richard spencer who is literally on the front line now, speaking to ukrainian soldiers who have an incredible spirit, they still have their humour. they know what is coming and it seems they're ready for it. he speaks to one service man who is a foreign exchange trader, normally, but has you know rallied to the cause now his country is under threat. so yeah, it looks as though, as i say, an on slaught on the capital is come
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and ukrainian forces are ready and waiting and ukrainian forces are ready and wait ing for what will be a huge battle. ., . battle. one thing in the article from richard _ battle. one thing in the article from richard spencer, - battle. one thing in the article from richard spencer, never. battle. one thing in the article - from richard spencer, never mind the visual of trenches being dug along the ukraine, which brings memories of 20th century wars, but making the link with ukraine's recent comparatively recent history, the second world war and the brief flourishing of independence and then the fight for survival with the nazis and then the fight to regain independence after the collapse of the soviet union. if one country is conscious of its history, ukraine must be that country. yes conscious of its history, ukraine must be that country.— conscious of its history, ukraine must be that country. yes that is what makes _ must be that country. yes that is what makes it _ must be that country. yes that is what makes it more _ must be that country. yes that is what makes it more poignant - must be that country. yes that is| what makes it more poignant and must be that country. yes that is - what makes it more poignant and you have these _ what makes it more poignant and you have these human stories from the front_ have these human stories from the front line _ have these human stories from the front line and the front line is getting — front line and the front line is getting tighter and tighter, because the russian tanks and the artillery
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we are _ the russian tanks and the artillery we are told are two miles from the convoy— we are told are two miles from the convoy that — we are told are two miles from the convoy that seemed to have stalled for a white~ — convoy that seemed to have stalled for a while. there was a sense of foreboding — for a while. there was a sense of foreboding that putin's forces are conting _ foreboding that putin's forces are coming even closer to their main prize. _ coming even closer to their main prize, which is the capital of kyiv and ironically independence square. but there _ and ironically independence square. but there is still the humanity and the humour within the people who are actually— the humour within the people who are actually trying to defend their land and trying to, sticking around and trying _ and trying to, sticking around and trying to— and trying to, sticking around and trying to stay there, you know, and take the _ trying to stay there, you know, and take the fight to the russians. mo, take the fight to the russians. mo, take us to the _ take the fight to the russians. mo, take us to the front _ take the fight to the russians. ij�*irr. take us to the front of the i, we have an intriguing photograph and it is really engaging, because the older man looks relatively relaxed on the rail ray station. his son, if it is his son, carries the fear and the horror of the last couple of weeks on his face?—
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the horror of the last couple of weeks on his face? yes, i think both ositions weeks on his face? yes, i think both positions peeple _ weeks on his face? yes, i think both positions people will— weeks on his face? yes, i think both positions people will be _ weeks on his face? yes, i think both positions people will be able - weeks on his face? yes, i think both positions people will be able to - positions people will be able to relate to. we are seeing mass migration within ukraine and people trying to obviously love the count —— leave the country as well. if you're male between 18 and 60, you can't do that. you will be fighting. within this picture is a range of emotions of, which ever situation as i have described that you're in. the detail is the interesting, clearly there is a lot of targeting of civilians and no matter how much the russians may deny that, that is what is happening. there is a line about russian morale wobbling, we are told and a third major being killed and the talk of putin enlisting foreign fighters from the middle east which suggests his plans are not working and he needs help from syria or belarus. the morale point will shes
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nate. ~ ., ., . ., ., nate. what -- resonate. what do you make of that? — nate. what -- resonate. what do you make of that? we _ nate. what -- resonate. what do you make of that? we have _ nate. what -- resonate. what do you make of that? we have had _ nate. what -- resonate. what do you make of that? we have had british, i make of that? we have had british, less so the us, the british declassifying and publishing intelligence. and questions will be raised about the reliability. of course we want the think the russian morale is wobbling and even among those near the top. but you know it is easy to say that and make a claim. it is very hard to verify it. you're right, we have to take the word _ you're right, we have to take the word of— you're right, we have to take the word of western officials when we are briefed that, we have to trust our sources. _ are briefed that, we have to trust our sources, we are not going to be getting _ our sources, we are not going to be getting that — our sources, we are not going to be getting that version of event from the russian side. but as a journalist who has been covering it from _ journalist who has been covering it from afar— journalist who has been covering it from afar in— journalist who has been covering it from afar in westminster, the access we have _ from afar in westminster, the access we have had — from afar in westminster, the access we have had to the intelligence briefings — we have had to the intelligence briefings has been very good and i
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think— briefings has been very good and i think whitehall is to be commended. they have _ think whitehall is to be commended. they have been very helpful and have imparted _ they have been very helpful and have imparted information in a very accessible way. but you're right, at the end _ accessible way. but you're right, at the end of— accessible way. but you're right, at the end of the day, we have to take their word _ the end of the day, we have to take their word for it, we have no way of verifying _ their word for it, we have no way of verifying it— their word for it, we have no way of verifying it other than what we are being _ verifying it other than what we are being told — verifying it other than what we are being told. it is interesting it mention— being told. it is interesting it mention a third major general has been _ mention a third major general has been killed. we were told in a briefing — been killed. we were told in a briefing last week that they reckon the western officials believe this is because as i mentioned, the russian — is because as i mentioned, the russian advance is not progressing as putin _ russian advance is not progressing as putin had hoped. therefore the most _ as putin had hoped. therefore the most senior figures who would normally— most senior figures who would normally be well away from from the front line _ normally be well away from from the front line are having to go to the front _ front line are having to go to the front line — front line are having to go to the front line to inject impetus into the advance and that is putting them in danger _ the advance and that is putting them in danger. that has its own knock on effect _ in danger. that has its own knock on effect for _ in danger. that has its own knock on effect for russian morale, if they're _ effect for russian morale, if they're seeing their major generals heing _ they're seeing their major generals being killed, that is going to be
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pretty— being killed, that is going to be pretty dispiriting for more junior ranks _ pretty dispiriting for more junior ranks. tide— pretty dispiriting for more “unior ranks. ~ ., ., ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest _ ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest s _ ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest s who _ ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest s who were - ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest s who were fresh i ranks. we were hearing on dateline, one of our guest s who were fresh in j one of our guests who were fresh in from russia, who was running an independent television channel. there is report of a general having been put on gardening leave, because of an exchange he had with a deputy, that suggested he was having doubts about the war and what putin was doing. the mirror, kevin, for those who don't recognise this lady, if you saw the shot of the pregnant woman being carried out of the hospital, it was almost certainly this woman and we got some happy knew y news that she has new hope for the future?— for the future? yeah it is not the most auspicious _ for the future? yeah it is not the most auspicious start _ for the future? yeah it is not the most auspicious start to - for the future? yeah it is not the most auspicious start to life - for the future? yeah it is not the most auspicious start to life for. most auspicious start to life for her little — most auspicious start to life for
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her little girl veronica. it is good to know— her little girl veronica. it is good to know at — her little girl veronica. it is good to know at least her mother did get out of— to know at least her mother did get out of the _ to know at least her mother did get out of the hospital alive and with her baby— out of the hospital alive and with her baby alive inside her and now the baby— her baby alive inside her and now the baby has been born, which is a small— the baby has been born, which is a small hit— the baby has been born, which is a small hit of— the baby has been born, which is a small bit of optimism in a pretty unrelenting grim picture. obviously, the whole _ unrelenting grim picture. obviously, the whole world was aghast at what happened _ the whole world was aghast at what happened yesterday with the hospital bein- happened yesterday with the hospital being bombed. and you know, the awful— being bombed. and you know, the awful casualties that that caused. so this— awful casualties that that caused. so this is— awful casualties that that caused. so this is a — awful casualties that that caused. so this is a small glimmer of hope and it's— so this is a small glimmer of hope and it's a — so this is a small glimmer of hope and it's a rare positive front—page if you _ and it's a rare positive front—page if you can — and it's a rare positive front—page if you can call it positive, ore the last couple — if you can call it positive, ore the last couple of weeks, because it has been pretty relentlessly grim. hopefully this little girl's future will turn — hopefully this little girl's future will turn out to be a lot brighter than _ will turn out to be a lot brighter than the — will turn out to be a lot brighter than the world that she is entering i’ili'it than the world that she is entering right now — than the world that she is entering riaht now. a, , than the world that she is entering riaht now. , , ., ., ., ., right now. mo, this is one area, a reminder of— right now. mo, this is one area, a reminder of an _ right now. mo, this is one area, a reminder of an area _ right now. mo, this is one area, a reminder of an area britain - right now. mo, this is one area, a reminder of an area britain can i right now. mo, this is one area, a l reminder of an area britain can play a role in terms of international
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development and humanitarian aid and assistance. this is something we are good at. we were hearing in a report last weekend about british surgeons helping to do online training for colleagues in ukraine for trauma surgery, the sort of surgery you may needin surgery, the sort of surgery you may need in a war zone?— need in a war zone? yes, we have exnerience _ need in a war zone? yes, we have exnerience and — need in a war zone? yes, we have experience and we _ need in a war zone? yes, we have experience and we have _ need in a war zone? yes, we have experience and we have done - need in a war zone? yes, we have experience and we have done this| experience and we have done this around the world and it is something we should be doing here. i think all of that in terms of rebuilding and aid, those are conversations that need to happen in the future. the thing that needs to be dealt with now clearly is ending this russian aggression in ukraine and taking even more action than we have so far, because clearly whilst the sanctions and the economic measures are having an impact they will still take some time and you're seeing on a daily basis more and more
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aggression and even targeting, breaching basic humanity, targeting children and babies, the most vulnerable in society. we can talk about the future and about the development, but there is a lot to be done before that.— be done before that. there is a warnin: be done before that. there is a warning on _ be done before that. there is a warning on the _ be done before that. there is a warning on the bottom - be done before that. there is a warning on the bottom of - be done before that. there is a warning on the bottom of the i warning on the bottom of the telegraph that the ukraine crisis may deeply destabilise food supplies across africa and increase the chances of famine. that is the warning of emmanuel macron. the big story, arguably the most interesting story, arguably the most interesting story on the front of the telegraph, notwithstanding jeremy hunt's call for more defence spending. is this onejoe biden vetoed the proposal from poland about transferring russian built planes to the ukraine via the us. he russian built planes to the ukraine via the us. .,
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via the us. he said he did that, because he _ via the us. he said he did that, because he wanted _ via the us. he said he did that, because he wanted to - via the us. he said he did that, because he wanted to avoid - via the us. he said he did that, i because he wanted to avoid world via the us. he said he did that, - because he wanted to avoid world war three and he has tweeted about it, to add clarity that nato and the us are not seeking confrontation with russia. th this something we have heard time and time again, being clear on a no—fly zone, that it won't happen and avoiding that direct military engagement. however this is proving divisive, there are republicans in america who i think are quoted as saying that he is back every time that putin says boo. i think there is an increasing sense that the more we say this as nato, this is not really stopping putin. he is continuing his aggression. he is continuing his military advance. so where is the line, what will be the thing that actually changes nato's perspective? will bit a chemical weapons attack, or does putin think he can continue doing
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what he wants and we are still waiting for the real impact of the economic measures, which i think are definitely right and needed, but they do take time to have the effect that we all want them to. and are they targeting the right people? are they targeting the right people? are the people they affect, do they have as much influence on putin to make him think again? fin as much influence on putin to make him think again?— him think again? on that kevin, there is a quote _ him think again? on that kevin, there is a quote from _ him think again? on that kevin, there is a quote from president| there is a quote from president putin, we will not fight the third world war in ukraine. i suppose it begs the question, where might they end up having to fight the third world war?— end up having to fight the third world war? ., , ., ., ., world war? that gets to the heart of the dilemma — world war? that gets to the heart of the dilemma that _ world war? that gets to the heart of the dilemma that western _ world war? that gets to the heart of the dilemma that western leaders i world war? that gets to the heart of. the dilemma that western leaders are facing _ the dilemma that western leaders are facing. there are a lot of warm words. — facing. there are a lot of warm words, backing up the humanitarian and miiitary— words, backing up the humanitarian and military support that the west is offering to ukraine. however, you know _ is offering to ukraine. however, you know when — is offering to ukraine. however, you know when it comes to mo mentioned no-fiy_ know when it comes to mo mentioned no-fly zone. _ know when it comes to mo mentioned no—fly zone, that what is president
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zeiensky— no—fly zone, that what is president zelensky has asked for and nato, the uk included obviously, are repeatedly saying that can't happen, because _ repeatedly saying that can't happen, because we don't want to get into a conflict _ because we don't want to get into a conflict with russia. there is logic with that — conflict with russia. there is logic with that. but it does run the risk of emboldening putin. because as you said it _ of emboldening putin. because as you said it gives— of emboldening putin. because as you said it gives him almost free rein, if nato _ said it gives him almost free rein, if nato isn't — said it gives him almost free rein, if nato isn't going to stop him, then— if nato isn't going to stop him, then who — if nato isn't going to stop him, then who will? the if nato isn't going to stop him, then who will?— if nato isn't going to stop him, then who will? ., ., then who will? the front of the ft, west cut trade _ then who will? the front of the ft, west cut trade ties _ then who will? the front of the ft, west cut trade ties to _ then who will? the front of the ft, west cut trade ties to punish - then who will? the front of the ft, | west cut trade ties to punish putin? yes we were discussing the economic sanctions _ yes we were discussing the economic sanctions that are by any measure enormous — sanctions that are by any measure enormous and probably more than anyone _ enormous and probably more than anyone anticipated prior to the occasion— anyone anticipated prior to the occasion and they have been ramped up
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occasion and they have been ramped up further— occasion and they have been ramped up further fg7 have slapped massive tariffs _ up further fg7 have slapped massive tariffs on _ up further fg7 have slapped massive tariffs on russian goods such as vodka — tariffs on russian goods such as vodka so — tariffs on russian goods such as vodka so i _ tariffs on russian goods such as vodka. so i mean they're really choking — vodka. so i mean they're really choking the russian economy and that will have _ choking the russian economy and that will have a _ choking the russian economy and that will have a massive impact. i saw footage _ will have a massive impact. i saw footage earlier of massive queues in russia _ footage earlier of massive queues in russia outside shops. it will be hurting — russia outside shops. it will be hurting ordinary russians. it clearly— hurting ordinary russians. it clearly isn't having any impact on putin— clearly isn't having any impact on putin himself or his military intentions are still clear and pretty— intentions are still clear and pretty barbaric. and in the meantime more _ pretty barbaric. and in the meantime more ukrainians are dying. as much as the _ more ukrainians are dying. as much as the economic sanctions are enormous _ as the economic sanctions are enormous and they will have an impact. — enormous and they will have an impact, they're not going to have an impact _ impact, they're not going to have an impact tomorrow. and in the meantime, lots of people will lose their lives — meantime, lots of people will lose their lives. a meantime, lots of people will lose their lives. �* ., ., meantime, lots of people will lose theirlives. . ., ., , their lives. a lot of people in russia will _ their lives. a lot of people in russia will suffer _ their lives. a lot of people in russia will suffer too. - their lives. a lot of people in russia will suffer too. for i their lives. a lot of people in russia will suffer too. for a l their lives. a lot of people in i russia will suffer too. for a war that they're not even told is happening. mo, it is interesting
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