hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the poltical commentator, jo phillips and the political editor of the sunday mirror and sunday people, nigel nelson. the telegraph is reporting that british households will be paid 350 pounds a month to host refugees as part of scheme called, homes for ukraine. the government said those offering accommodation would be "vetted" and ukrainian applicants "will undergo security checks".

that same story makes the front page of the sunday express. it says the plan was written up by the secretary of state for levelling up, michael gove and the website for registration goes live tomorrow. the sunday mirror dedicates its front page to the plight of orphaned babies and toddlers in ukraine. the paper calls for their safe passage out of the country. the sunday people has an interview with a survivor of the salisbury novichok attack, who has urged british people to take in ukrainians fleeing the war. an entire city in eastern ukraine has been wiped out in the russian invasion, the regional governor said yesterday. russian—backed separatists claimed on friday to have captured volnovakha. so let's begin... thank you forjoining us. let us start with the front page of the

sunday telegraph, £350 to host refugees in your homes, that is a monthly payment if you volunteer to sign up online. do you think many people will want to volunteer?— online. do you think many people will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably _ will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably will. _ will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably will. we _ will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably will. we have - will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably will. we have seen . will want to volunteer? yes, i think they probably will. we have seen a | they probably will. we have seen a huge response from the british public and the public around the world, but in the amount of money that has been ranged from various appeals —— raised. you only have to look at the goods and supplies that have been pouring into centres for distribution in ukraine. it is a goodidea distribution in ukraine. it is a good idea and it certainly puts the home office on the back foot, because this is michael gove's department and the home office has been heavily criticised for dragging its feet in confusion over the visa scheme. personally, iwould like its feet in confusion over the visa scheme. personally, i would like to see it go further and anyone with

second homes or airbnb rental properties, i would like to see those requisitioned for six months and given to ukrainians to have somewhere safe to stay for a few months. somewhere safe to stay for a few months-- i'm _ somewhere safe to stay for a few months.- i'm not - somewhere safe to stay for a few months.- i'm not sure - somewhere safe to stay for a few months.- i'm not sure you | months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally _ months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally do _ months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally do that _ months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally do that but - months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally do that but i - months. nigel? i'm not sure you could legally do that but i like i months. nigel? i'm not sure you | could legally do that but i like the sentiment. it is nice to see the british— sentiment. it is nice to see the british government moving properly to help _ british government moving properly to help ukrainian refugees, obviously it is welcomed and i would have thought that we are probably looking _ have thought that we are probably looking mostly are private landlords, bed and breakfast, hotel is as well — landlords, bed and breakfast, hotel is as well. obviously if you have -ot is as well. obviously if you have got a _ is as well. obviously if you have got a spare _ is as well. obviously if you have got a spare room in your house, certainly— got a spare room in your house, certainly you will be able to apply for the _ certainly you will be able to apply for the scheme. the important thing now is_ for the scheme. the important thing now is to _ for the scheme. the important thing now is to actually get the ukrainian refugees— now is to actually get the ukrainian refugees over here as soon as possible — refugees over here as soon as possible and asjo has said, the problem — possible and asjo has said, the problem has been that the visa scheme — problem has been that the visa scheme that we are using is so slow

and cumbersome it is making it difficult — and cumbersome it is making it difficult. , ., , ,. difficult. 10, is the visa scheme auoin to difficult. 10, is the visa scheme going to delay _ difficult. 10, is the visa scheme going to delay this _ difficult. 10, is the visa scheme going to delay this plan? - difficult. jo, is the visa scheme going to delay this plan? i - difficult. 10, is the visa scheme going to delay this plan? i am | difficult. 10, is the visa scheme - going to delay this plan? i am sure it will not be _ going to delay this plan? i am sure it will not be smooth. _ going to delay this plan? i am sure it will not be smooth. simply - it will not be smooth. simply because of the logistics. we saw this in the early days of covid, people signing up to be volunteers, i was one and i had one offer of some voluntary work about 70 miles away from where i live. they sound great on paper but the reality is that there will be hiccups. the other thing that is worth bearing in mind is that whilst there is this great outpouring of support and sympathy and the desire to help the ukrainian people fleeing their ravaged country, there are refugees still languishing in afghanistan, refugees in detention centres and asylum centres in this country. there are also people on housing lists who are living in appalling

accommodation. we have not got a lot of houses, we have a shortage of houses, some people with too many of them, there are houses belonging to oligarchs that could be seized and turned into refugee centres, this will not be a straightforward passage. i would expect to hiccups and complaints. if it works, then let us give it a go. let and complaints. if it works, then let us give it a go.— and complaints. if it works, then let us give it a go. let us move on to the sunday _ let us give it a go. let us move on to the sunday express. _ let us give it a go. let us move on to the sunday express. £350 - let us give it a go. let us move on to the sunday express. £350 per. to the sunday express. £350 per month, thank you for giving refuge. the interesting thing i want to talk about is this is michael gove, his home for ukraine scheme and it is interesting that there is this disconnect between the foreign office, the home office, the communities office, it is funny how these different areas work differently and it shows the way each one works and how some of our head of the others. it is

each one works and how some of our head of the others.— head of the others. it is not “oined u . head of the others. it is not “oined up government. * head of the others. it is not “oined up government. it is t head of the others. it is not “oined up government. it is quite _ head of the others. it is not joined up government. it is quite right i up government. it is quite right that the — up government. it is quite right that the housing department deals with accommodation, and obviously michaei— with accommodation, and obviously michael gove is in charge of that and i_ michael gove is in charge of that and i understand why it has gone to his department, but the problem reatiy— his department, but the problem really is — his department, but the problem really is that now it has to link up with the — really is that now it has to link up with the home office that issues the visas and _ with the home office that issues the visas and what they have to do now is find _ visas and what they have to do now is find ways — visas and what they have to do now is find ways of speeding up the scheme — is find ways of speeding up the scheme. at the moment you have got a visa scheme, _ scheme. at the moment you have got a visa scheme, we have not got one yet for people _ visa scheme, we have not got one yet for people without relatives here although — for people without relatives here although it should be announced in the coming week, but the scheme is so difficult _ the coming week, but the scheme is so difficult and it could be made so much _ so difficult and it could be made so much simpler, there does not have to be so _ much simpler, there does not have to be so many— much simpler, there does not have to be so many questions, it does not need _ be so many questions, it does not need to— be so many questions, it does not need to take three hours to do, especially— need to take three hours to do, especially if you are frightened having — especially if you are frightened having been bombed out of your home. it having been bombed out of your home. it could _ having been bombed out of your home. it could be _ having been bombed out of your home. it could be done for families, rather— it could be done for families, rather than individuals. there are all sorts— rather than individuals. there are all sorts of— rather than individuals. there are all sorts of ways you could make this process easier. jo,

all sorts of ways you could make this process easier.— this process easier. 10, do you think £350 _ this process easier. 10, do you think £350 per _ this process easier. 10, do you think £350 per month, - this process easier. 10, do you think £350 per month, given l this process easier. 10, do you i think £350 per month, given the this process easier. 10, do you - think £350 per month, given the cost of living and in particular energy prices and food prices will be enough for people to take in refugees?— enough for people to take in refu:ees? , , ., ., ., enough for people to take in refu:ees? , ., ., ., refugees? yes. if you have got a sare refugees? yes. if you have got a spare room _ refugees? yes. if you have got a spare room sitting _ refugees? yes. if you have got a spare room sitting empty, - refugees? yes. if you have got a spare room sitting empty, it - refugees? yes. if you have got a spare room sitting empty, it is l refugees? yes. if you have got a - spare room sitting empty, it is £350 that you would have not got otherwise. the government does suggest, in the telegraph story, it goes into detail, it would not be unreasonable to ask people to contribute to food or heating bills, but this is not about people making a fast buck out of tragedy, although people often do that, but it certainly will cover the cost, if you have got a room or space that is empty, then i think £350 is fine and once you get into bigger money, then you're getting into the realms of, how are you going to check the money is going to the right people? the

point about this is to try and keep it simple and the problem is once michael gove's department store is dealing with the home office, that is where the hurdles will start popping up like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror — like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror and _ like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror and the _ like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror and the front _ like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror and the front page - like dominoes. let us move on to the sunday mirror and the front page is i sunday mirror and the front page is about ukraine but a different story, 100,000 are forgotten ukraine orphans. this exclusive, dozens of orphaned babies and toddlers hiding in the basement highlighting the heartbreak and reality of the war. this is a heartbreaking photograph. isn't itjust? it is the basement of a baby— isn't itjust? it is the basement of a baby home in kyiv. as you can see from _ a baby home in kyiv. as you can see from the _ a baby home in kyiv. as you can see from the picture, they are all huddled _ from the picture, they are all huddled down there, as the bombs and missiles _ huddled down there, as the bombs and missiles are _ huddled down there, as the bombs and missiles are whistling overhead. the orphans— missiles are whistling overhead. the orphans of— missiles are whistling overhead. the orphans of ukraine are really are the forgotten victims of this war. there _ the forgotten victims of this war. there are — the forgotten victims of this war. there are 100,000 of them, 700

orphanages in the country, they are run by— orphanages in the country, they are run by 60,000 carers, a lot of whom have gone _ run by 60,000 carers, a lot of whom have gone home, quite understandably, to be with their own families— understandably, to be with their own families at— understandably, to be with their own families at this time of crisis. as a result, — families at this time of crisis. as a result, these children who have been _ a result, these children who have been abandoned once have been abandoned again. it is very difficult _ abandoned again. it is very difficult to actually move them, especially if the shelling is going on. especially if the shelling is going on what— especially if the shelling is going on. what they need more than anything — on. what they need more than anything is food, water, medicine, things— anything is food, water, medicine, things like — anything is food, water, medicine, things like pillows, blankets, even some— things like pillows, blankets, even some tape— things like pillows, blankets, even some tape to stop shattered glass in the event _ some tape to stop shattered glass in the event of an explosion. all these things— the event of an explosion. all these things have — the event of an explosion. all these things have been supplied by charities but there is no kind of safe _ charities but there is no kind of safe route _ charities but there is no kind of safe route out for these orphans and the biggest danger is that they are beginning to disappear and they could _ beginning to disappear and they could end up in the hands of predators or paedophiles or people traffickers and that is the huge tragedy — traffickers and that is the huge tragedy. i think is a matter of urgency— tragedy. i think is a matter of

urgency we have got to give them priority _ urgency we have got to give them priority. jo? nigel is far too priority. 10? nigel is far too modest to _ priority. mfr? nigel is far too modest to say this is his story, but it is very good campaign that the mirror is running, working with charities and it is heartbreaking but so much of what we are seeing coming out of ukraine is utterly heartbreaking, whether it is orphans trapped in basements or really old, frail being helped across broken bridges, pregnant women being taken out of bombed maternity hospitals, it is hell on earth.— a reminder on the front page of the sunday people of what the russians are potentially capable of, the novichok victim in salisbury, the survivor, charlie rowley, is calling now for britons to take in refugees. he was affected massively by

novichok, he was poisoned and his partner died as well.— partner died as well. sorry, jo, continue- _ partner died as well. sorry, jo, continue. he _ partner died as well. sorry, jo, continue. he knows _ partner died as well. sorry, jo, continue. he knows what - partner died as well. sorry, 10, l continue. he knows what talking about. that was a poisoning on british soil. interestingly, we have not got the inside pages, but there was a point there that said anger at russian spy claim at £350 per month offer is unveiled. this is another thing that has come up out of the cack—handed handling of the whole of visa scheme that there's got to be security checks otherwise we will end up with russian spies and terrorists and so on. there is a time when you have to be sensible, you have to be more sensible that the people who are fleeing devastation as we have just talked about, the orphans, do not fall into the hands of predators and people traffickers, but we have to

remember, and here is charlie rowley who has been on the receiving end of the awfulness of russian chemical weapons, because that is what it was, saying, open up your homes. the iron is was, saying, open up your homes. the irony is rrot _ was, saying, open up your homes. the irony is not lost on some that russian spies have gone as they play is that the evidence is here on the front page. is that the evidence is here on the front page-— front page. that is absolutely ri . ht. front page. that is absolutely right- the _ front page. that is absolutely right. the whole _ front page. that is absolutely right. the whole point - front page. that is absolutely right. the whole point is - front page. that is absolutely right. the whole point is that| front page. that is absolutely | right. the whole point is that i think— right. the whole point is that i think it — right. the whole point is that i think it is _ right. the whole point is that i think it is perfectly reasonable to do some — think it is perfectly reasonable to do some kind of security check, certainiy— do some kind of security check, certainly that ukrainian refugees coming — certainly that ukrainian refugees coming here will need to undergo one _ coming here will need to undergo one the — coming here will need to undergo one. the point basically is that you can streamline this and make it quicken — can streamline this and make it quicken if— can streamline this and make it quicker. if you have got a biometric passport. _ quicker. if you have got a biometric passport, all your identity is there. — passport, all your identity is there, there should be no problem with that, — there, there should be no problem with that, if you have not got a biometric— with that, if you have not got a biometric passport and you have your biometrics _ biometric passport and you have your biometrics done here, but then you have still— biometrics done here, but then you have still got to fill in the visa form — have still got to fill in the visa form and _ have still got to fill in the visa form and get fingerprinted. what you need for—

form and get fingerprinted. what you need for the fingerprints, which is your basic— need for the fingerprints, which is your basic check, is to have mobile emergency— your basic check, is to have mobile emergency units, visa units from the home _ emergency units, visa units from the home office, in the places where the refugees— home office, in the places where the refugees are and doing those checks on the _ refugees are and doing those checks on the spot, that way we can speak the whole _ on the spot, that way we can speak the whole thing up. | on the spot, that way we can speak the whole thing up.— the whole thing up. i need to ask both of you. _ the whole thing up. i need to ask both of you. we _ the whole thing up. i need to ask both of you, we have _ the whole thing up. i need to ask both of you, we have been - the whole thing up. i need to ask| both of you, we have been talking about taking in refugees, would either view potentially taken out ukrainian refugee, if you could? i would consider it, but you're talking about people who have come from a terrible environment and i think it is not as easy as saying, here is a spare room, you know, these people need support and that means the support networks that i know, having worked with local authorities rehousing syrian refugees, the number of people involved for very traumatised people

is immense. i don't think this is as easy as it might seem. it is something to be welcomed, but i think it needs careful consideration. d0 think it needs careful consideration. ., i] think it needs careful consideration. ., mm consideration. do you agree? i do think this is _ consideration. do you agree? i do think this is something _ consideration. do you agree? i do think this is something that - consideration. do you agree? i do think this is something that really j think this is something that really professionals should be involved in, because _ professionals should be involved in, because as — professionals should be involved in, because asjo says, there is a lot to it _ because asjo says, there is a lot to it and — because asjo says, there is a lot to it and you _ because asjo says, there is a lot to it and you need to find a job when — to it and you need to find a job when you _ to it and you need to find a job when you are here and the kind of people _ when you are here and the kind of people who are best place for this or iocai— people who are best place for this or local authorities and i know there — or local authorities and i know there is— or local authorities and i know there is a _ or local authorities and i know there is a lot of pressure on them, but they— there is a lot of pressure on them, but they are — there is a lot of pressure on them, but they are the ones with the support— but they are the ones with the support network, can help withjobs, and housing — support network, can help withjobs, and housing and they seem to be the best place _ and housing and they seem to be the best place people to actually do something like this. it best place people to actually do something like this.— best place people to actually do something like this. it has been an absolute pleasure _ something like this. it has been an absolute pleasure to _ something like this. it has been an absolute pleasure to talk _ something like this. it has been an absolute pleasure to talk to - something like this. it has been an absolute pleasure to talk to you i absolute pleasure to talk to you both and i know you will be back in nearly an hour's time. that's it for the papers this hour.

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