hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the poltical commentator, jo phillips and the political editor of the sunday mirror and sunday people, nigel nelson. tomorrow's front pages starting with. the mail on sunday is reporting that the secretary of state for levelling up, michael gove, wants the seized mansions of russian oligarchs to be used to house ukrainian refugees — but it's unclear if that's been

agreed by officials. we do know there'll be a scheme that would see people being paid 350 pounds to give people a safe home. details of that refugee scheme makes the front page of the sunday express. it says a website for registration goes live tomorrow. the sunday people has an interview with a survivor of the salisbury novichok attack, who has urged british people to take in ukrainians fleeing the war. the sunday mirror dedicates its front page to the plight of orphaned babies and toddlers in ukraine. the paper calls for their safe passage out of the country. the telegraph is reporting that the kremlin has warned it will launch attacks on western weapons supplies to ukraine, raising the prospect of a confrontation between russia and nato. the sunday times reports that an entire city in eastern ukraine has been wiped out in the russian invasion. russian—backed separatists claimed on friday to have captured volnovakha.

so, let's begin. thank you again forjoining us on the front pages. let's start with the front pages. let's start with the mail on sunday. they would be seized. plan to being blocked by seniorfigures seized. plan to being blocked by senior figures of the foreign office. the idea is paying lip service to the whole situation or not? do you think this plan is a place? i not? do you think this plan is a lace? ~ ., ., ., not? do you think this plan is a lace? ~' ., ., ., ., ., place? i think, in an ago that that is what michael _ place? i think, in an ago that that is what michael gove _ place? i think, in an ago that that is what michael gove ought - place? i think, in an ago that that is what michael gove ought to - place? i think, in an ago that that is what michael gove ought to be | is what michael gove ought to be doing. i'm sure he was watching and listening to me. but why not? these houses, many of them have been bought through secretive bank arrangements and sit empty, particularly in london. i'm sure there will be people saying that you cannot do that legally for this than

the other. and according to the mail on sunday, this is something that michael gove enough ruling up secretary have been passionate before in the cabinet but it is the foreign office of the treasury believe it is not legally workable. and at the same time as the government is saying to ordinary people, take someone in, you've got a space. properties that have been seized. they might as will be used. and whether or not it is workable, you have to see if michael gove can get it through. he may have a battle on his hands. i get it through. he may have a battle on his hande— get it through. he may have a battle on his hands-— on his hands. i think he would. i don't know— on his hands. i think he would. i don't know what _ on his hands. i think he would. i don't know what legal— on his hands. i think he would. i don't know what legal situation l on his hands. i think he would. i l don't know what legal situation is ihere~ _ don't know what legal situation is ihere~ i_ don't know what legal situation is there. i think there's an enter bolshevik— there. i think there's an enter bolshevik lead on this. but we have to he _ bolshevik lead on this. but we have to be sensible about this. and they should _ to be sensible about this. and they should not— to be sensible about this. and they should not have been allowed in the way they— should not have been allowed in the way they were but it was pure creed

on our— way they were but it was pure creed on our behalf because the british government wanted their money. and yes to _ government wanted their money. and yes to think— government wanted their money. and yes to think about the days that might— yes to think about the days that might come after this awful war is oven _ might come after this awful war is oven and — might come after this awful war is oven and it — might come after this awful war is over. and it may be this will bring vladimir— over. and it may be this will bring vladimir putin down and more moderate _ vladimir putin down and more moderate russian leaders and we might— moderate russian leaders and we might want to have a detente with russia, _ might want to have a detente with russia, we — might want to have a detente with russia, we have no quarrel with the russian _ russia, we have no quarrel with the russian people. and it sounds like it's great— russian people. and it sounds like it's great revenge on the russians, let's grah— it's great revenge on the russians, let's grab their homes but i'm one of those _ let's grab their homes but i'm one of those people who do wonder about the legality of it and i think it's something you should be examining pmperiy— something you should be examining properly before moving in. do something you should be examining properly before moving in.— properly before moving in. do you believe there's _ properly before moving in. do you believe there's too _ properly before moving in. do you believe there's too much - properly before moving in. do you believe there's too much of- believe there's too much of anti—russian sentiment directed at the people of russia rather than vladimir putin himself? i the people of russia rather than vladimir putin himself?- vladimir putin himself? i don't think so. vladimir putin himself? i don't think s0- i _ vladimir putin himself? i don't think so. i don't _ vladimir putin himself? i don't think so. i don't think- vladimir putin himself? i don't think so. i don't think we - vladimir putin himself? i don't think so. i don't think we have | vladimir putin himself? i don't - think so. i don't think we have any think so. idon't think we have any quarrel— think so. i don't think we have any quarrel with — think so. i don't think we have any quarrel with the people of russia and we _ quarrel with the people of russia and we do — quarrel with the people of russia and we do not detect anything in this country where we will have anything — this country where we will have anything against russian people

themselves. our quarrel is with vladimir— themselves. our quarrel is with vladimir putin. putin seems to have turned _ vladimir putin. putin seems to have turned himself into a newjosef stalin— turned himself into a newjosef stalin and the best thing for the people — stalin and the best thing for the people of russia and the rest of the world _ people of russia and the rest of the world is_ people of russia and the rest of the world is if— people of russia and the rest of the world is if we got rid of him. torrential £50 a month, thank you for giving refuge. this of the plan we been talking about and michael gove, i'm ready with homes for thousands of families from ukraine and paying people in britain, that money to potentially house them. they can sign up from tomorrow, do you think there will be a lot of people who will sign up for this? yes, i think there are people who will. and without wanting to be a cold war artist, it's clearly a good scheme done with the best intentions, it will not be without its problems and there will be people signing up. there will be need to be a careful matching of

people were coming from ukraine with the people who might host them. there are plenty of people who got space and i were priscilla to see this go further and not like to see second homes, notjust oligarchs, second homes, notjust oligarchs, second homes, notjust oligarchs, second homes and air b&bs taken over and given to families for six months, which is what the scheme is about and actually, that would help about and actually, that would help a lot of communities, particularly coastal and seaside and holiday communities which is ravaged by second homes and acting as a good idea and it's a to happen and people get frustrated and we seen these schemes before, whether it was everyone signed up to go through them post—brexit or sign up and volunteer to do stuff and the first is of covid—i9. but i think we have seen a great outpouring of sympathy and empathy for the people of ukraine. there also people in

afghanistan, people in yemen, people of the world course stuck. the rather trying to flee or they're stuck in war zones. so, it's not a quick fix and it doesn't solve the much wider problem which is the amount of conflict in the number of people desperately trying to escape fear in famine. mi; people desperately trying to escape fear in famine.— fear in famine. my feelings on this one is, fear in famine. my feelings on this one is. but — fear in famine. my feelings on this one is. but you — fear in famine. my feelings on this one is, but you have _ fear in famine. my feelings on this one is, but you have to _ fear in famine. my feelings on this one is, but you have to think- one is, but you have to think carefully— one is, but you have to think carefully because the people best place _ carefully because the people best place for — carefully because the people best place for this would be charities, companies — place for this would be charities, companies and local authorities especially. a definite comes down to, if— especially. a definite comes down to, if you — especially. a definite comes down to, if you do have a spare room, do you have _ to, if you do have a spare room, do you have adequate transport links for some — you have adequate transport links for some people who might live with you, for some people who might live with you. locai— for some people who might live with you, localjobs in the whole considerations that people have to take and _ considerations that people have to take and before making the offer. at the moment, we do not have all the

details _ the moment, we do not have all the details and we'll put more on the bones— details and we'll put more on the bones next week but we hope this is being _ bones next week but we hope this is being taught through. people who reaiiy— being taught through. people who really knew what they were doing and were involved in this and notjust suhieasing — were involved in this and notjust subleasing oh, yeah, we must do this _ subleasing oh, yeah, we must do this. , ., ., , , , this. the survivor of the salisbury attack is talking _ this. the survivor of the salisbury attack is talking exclusively, - attack is talking exclusively, asking britons to take in refugees but also criticising, go slow on visas to the anticipated russian spies. the russian spies argument has been used as spies. the russian spies argument has been used— spies. the russian spies argument has been used as an excuse, smith arc ued, has been used as an excuse, smith argued. as — has been used as an excuse, smith argued. as to _ has been used as an excuse, smith argued. as to why _ has been used as an excuse, smith argued, as to why visa _ has been used as an excuse, smith argued, as to why visa settlements have been so slow. find argued, as to why visa settlements have been so slow.— argued, as to why visa settlements have been so slow. and at the most sensible people _ have been so slow. and at the most sensible people would _ have been so slow. and at the most sensible people would find - have been so slow. and at the most sensible people would find it - sensible people would find it extremely spurious reason as to why

the home office was not up to scratch in the home secretary, we knew there was going to be some sort of crayfish because it had been talking about this for weeks and the russians and the possibility of invasion. ludicrous, unsympathetic, cold—hearted idea that people fleeing their homes and their loved ones with enough to turn up to a nonexistent visa centre to then be sent to paris or brussels just to do it online. it beggars belief. but his lover died in the 2018 salisbury poisoning attack and in this week, the hearing into the whole poisoning should've started last month. announced through a retired judge. here is a man was a victim of

chemical weaponry used on british soil by the russians and he is saying, for goodness' sake, home office. get your act together. we've got by electric details, we've got ways of processing people. there's always going to be bad eggs that slip through the net, if that's not mixing metaphors. but there's an urgency about this at the home office doesn't seem to grasp. but the 're office doesn't seem to grasp. but they're saying is he of all people has more — they're saying is he of all people has more to fear from russian spies than most _ has more to fear from russian spies than most and still says that he should — than most and still says that he should be — than most and still says that he should be opening her arms to ukrainian _ should be opening her arms to ukrainian refugees and i think they're — ukrainian refugees and i think they're right and that there is an urgency— they're right and that there is an urgency about this probably cannot do is try— urgency about this probably cannot do is try to — urgency about this probably cannot do is try to impose the same immigration rules we have in normal time was _

immigration rules we have in normal time was we — immigration rules we have in normal time was we with the moment. so, while _ time was we with the moment. so, while except there must be some basic— while except there must be some basic security checks, it seems to me that _ basic security checks, it seems to me that we — basic security checks, it seems to me that we should be doing all of these _ me that we should be doing all of these things much quicker and a biometric— these things much quicker and a biometric passport and we can come over and _ biometric passport and we can come over and know your identity or all you need — over and know your identity or all you need to — over and know your identity or all you need to do is get some fingerprinting before people arrive and that— fingerprinting before people arrive and that should be done by mobile units _ and that should be done by mobile units refugees are. so, all this can be speeded — units refugees are. so, all this can be speeded up in common humanity calls on— be speeded up in common humanity calls on the — be speeded up in common humanity calls on the home office to dojust that _ calls on the home office to do 'ust that. ., ~ about the sunday mirror front page. this is very moving. i cannot stop looking at it. all of these poor orphan children and babies in a bunker underground hiding from the bombing in kyiv. and this is an exclusive. the story of these orphans and the dire situations they are in. tell me more. i orphans and the dire situations they are in. tell me more.— orphans and the dire situations they are in. tell me more. i been working on the story — are in. tell me more. i been working on the story all— are in. tell me more. i been working on the story all week _ are in. tell me more. i been working on the story all week and _ are in. tell me more. i been working

on the story all week and it's - are in. tell me more. i been working on the story all week and it's been i on the story all week and it's been absolutely— on the story all week and it's been absolutely heartbreaking and with the picture that we can see there, and the _ the picture that we can see there, and the basement of the baby, is the only shelter— and the basement of the baby, is the only shelter they've got. and the care is— only shelter they've got. and the care is for— only shelter they've got. and the care is for these children were old enough _ care is for these children were old enough basically shouts, explosions every— enough basically shouts, explosions every time — enough basically shouts, explosions every time the sirens go off and the children— every time the sirens go off and the children then go down to the basements. the biggest problem is you have _ basements. the biggest problem is you have 100,000 orphans in ukraine and you have100,000 orphans in ukraine and nobody— you have 100,000 orphans in ukraine and nobody is really prioritising them — and nobody is really prioritising them. they don't have safer outside of the _ them. they don't have safer outside of the country. many of them are disappearing and the danger of course — disappearing and the danger of course is — disappearing and the danger of course is they can end up in the hands _ course is they can end up in the hands of— course is they can end up in the hands of predators or paedophiles. i we need _ hands of predators or paedophiles. i we need to— hands of predators or paedophiles. i we need to do is the whole humanitarian effort is prioritising these _ humanitarian effort is prioritising these children especially as they cross— these children especially as they cross the — these children especially as they cross the border. if they disappear, they could — cross the border. if they disappear, they could end up at any part of the world _ they could end up at any part of the world where the charity workers told

us this _ world where the charity workers told us this week that there be looking for these — us this week that there be looking for these children for years to come — for these children for years to come. , ., , ., , for these children for years to come. , ., ,.,_ for these children for years to come. , ., , , for these children for years to come. , ., ,, _ come. this whole story is very sad and depressing. _ come. this whole story is very sad and depressing. it's _ come. this whole story is very sad and depressing. it's awful. - come. this whole story is very sad j and depressing. it's awful. there's so much that _ and depressing. it's awful. there's so much that is _ and depressing. it's awful. there's so much that is so _ and depressing. it's awful. there's so much that is so awful _ and depressing. it's awful. there's so much that is so awful in - and depressing. it's awful. there's| so much that is so awful in ukraine it is the the case, it's the very young and very old and the frail who are forgotten. we have seen harrowing pictures of very elderly people who could be any of our grandparents or parents being helped across broken bridges. in some of these people will have remembered, they've been through or lived under they've been through or lived under the shadow of the second world war and the iron curtain and the ussr. it is a terrible, terrible thing and it's almost impossible for us to imagine what people are going through and these little children in their pyjamas and their cots, you

just think why is the world so terribly cruel and that's another reason why we must be so much more urgent in our response. stand reason why we must be so much more urgent in our response.— urgent in our response. and preps that aives urgent in our response. and preps that gives us _ urgent in our response. and preps that gives us an _ urgent in our response. and preps that gives us an idea _ urgent in our response. and preps that gives us an idea as _ urgent in our response. and preps that gives us an idea as to - urgent in our response. and preps that gives us an idea as to why - that gives us an idea as to why these children are hiding underground. putin wipes out entire city. the russian backed separatists claim to have captured this city and according to the regional governor, it's just completely been wiped out. that is the equivalent in this article a similar size city being wiped out. it is terrifying, isn't it. . y . wiped out. it is terrifying, isn't it. absolutely. and it shows a kind of, terror that _ it. absolutely. and it shows a kind of, terror that the _ it. absolutely. and it shows a kind of, terror that the russians - it. absolutely. and it shows a kind of, terror that the russians seem | it. absolutely. and it shows a kind i of, terror that the russians seem to want to— of, terror that the russians seem to want to impose. they haven't gotten into this _ want to impose. they haven't gotten into this war— want to impose. they haven't gotten into this war to obey the geneva convention, they are deliberately targeting civilians and mercifully,

this particular case, the civilians had left — this particular case, the civilians had left before the separatists who backed _ had left before the separatists who backed the russians arrived to take over the _ backed the russians arrived to take over the city. but we see picture after _ over the city. but we see picture after picture and the shelling, hospitals being bombed. the russians are behaving in a way tojust hospitals being bombed. the russians are behaving in a way to just create abject— are behaving in a way to just create abject terror in the population and that is— abject terror in the population and that is a _ abject terror in the population and that is a war crime. give abject terror in the population and that is a war crime.— that is a war crime. give about 30 seconds for _ that is a war crime. give about 30 seconds for you _ that is a war crime. give about 30 seconds for you to _ that is a war crime. give about 30 seconds for you to tell _ that is a war crime. give about 30 seconds for you to tell me what . that is a war crime. give about 30 i seconds for you to tell me what you think. �* , seconds for you to tell me what you think. 2 ., , ,., , seconds for you to tell me what you think. , think. it's absolutely appalling but the other thing _ think. it's absolutely appalling but the other thing is _ think. it's absolutely appalling but the other thing is made _ think. it's absolutely appalling but the other thing is made and - think. it's absolutely appalling but| the other thing is made and people were leaving we want to go back. the rebuilding of ukraine with this dreadful war comes to an end, we still have to keep helping in order to restore it so that people can go home. it to restore it so that people can go home. ., , , to restore it so that people can go home. . , , ., , to restore it so that people can go home. ., , ., , ., home. it has been really wonderful talkin: to home. it has been really wonderful talking to you _ home. it has been really wonderful talking to you both. _ home. it has been really wonderful talking to you both. thank- home. it has been really wonderful talking to you both. thank you - talking to you both. thank you for taking the time to speak to us.