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strategy of regime change in russia. we have a special report from our europe editor looking at how sex traffickers are looking to exploit ukrainians fleeing the war. they approached me and my children after we fled ukraine. they told us to get in a van with other women and said they would take us to switzerland. are we going to have to leave belfast? ., , are we going to have to leave belfast? . , ., , ., ., belfast? the wait is nearly over for the oscar nominees. _ belfast? the wait is nearly over for the oscar nominees. the _ belfast? the wait is nearly over for the oscar nominees. the academy| the oscar nominees. the academy award ceremony will be getting under way in hollywood in a few hours' time. just over a month since russia launched its attack on ukraine, more detail has been emerging of possible peace negotiations.
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reports within the past hour on the reuters news agency suggest president zelinsky could be ready to compromise with russia over the future status of russia—backed breakaway eastern provinces in the donbass region. we'll bring you more on that as we have it.in other developments today ukraine's military intelligence chief has claimed that russia may be trying to split ukraine in two, in the same way that north and south korea have been divided for more than half a century, after vladimir putin's forces failed to take over the whole country. it's been announced that officials from ukraine and russia will resume peace talks on monday. three days of discussions have been scheduled. they're to take place in turkey, previous talks had taken place in belarus. america's most senior diplomat, along with other top officials, have been forced to clarify comments by president biden, that vladimir putin could not stay in power in russia. we begin our coverage with the fall—out from president biden�*s speech in warsaw on saturday and our diplomatic correspondent caroline hawley.
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i think he is a war criminal. a butcher. is not the first time his off—the—cuff remarks on vladimir putin have left is partner scrambling. he went off on this message again. we have a brighterfuture in democracy, and possibilities stability for gods sake, this man cannot remain in power. visiting the middle east, some damage control. i think the president of the white house made the point that quite simply, president putin cannot be to wage war or engage in aggression against ukraine or anyone else. as you know, as you've heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy regime change in russia or anywhere else, for that matter. the sin message came from the government here. it is only the russian people can
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make that decision stems take i to suppose there pretty fed up with putin and his cronies. - as they cause more destruction, president biden may be burning bridges with the kremlin which could be needed to stop the war. the federal and diplomat said his comments admit were dangerous he suggested the president plus �*s aids to their russian counterparts, that they're prepared to deal with russian government. there is a rebuke from president macron of france was to with vladimir putin this week. translation: i would not use that kind of language because i'm - still talking to president putin. because what do you want to do collectively? - |we want to stop the war that russia has started in ukraine without going to work without escalating. president biden arrived home to questions as to whether or not his blunt language could play
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into the hands of the kremlin. welljoining me now is anatol lieven. he is a senior research fellow on russia and europe at the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. and dr leslie vinjamuri — director, us and the americas programme at the international affairs think tank chatham house. thank think tank chatham house. you both forjoining us president thank you both forjoining us. president biden�*s comments, where they an intentional move, and appeal to russian people to turn away from putin, for example? or where they just a reckless gaffe? i putin, for example? or where they just a reckless gaffe?— putin, for example? or where they just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, ask him. just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, ask him- what _ just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, ask him. what do _ just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, ask him. what do you _ just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, ask him. what do you think, - just a reckless gaffe? i don't know, i ask him. what do you think, knowing his track record? _ ask him. what do you think, knowing his track record? he _ ask him. what do you think, knowing his track record? he does _ ask him. what do you think, knowing his track record? he does have - ask him. what do you think, knowing his track record? he does have a - his track record? he does have a track record _ his track record? he does have a track record of _ his track record? he does have a track record of shooting - his track record? he does have a track record of shooting his - his track record? he does have a i track record of shooting his mouth off going back many, many years. at the same time he was revealing what a lot of people in washington and the administration would like to see in russia. many other people as
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well, which is the fall of the putin regime. but it was certainly a very unwise thing to say. after all, ukrainians and russians are now engaged in peace talks and the russian campaign is not going well. so there does appear to be a basis for a peace settlement, may be. to suggest to the russians that america's real goal is to overthrow the russian government and possibly the russian government and possibly the state does not contribute to that effort. the white house backtracked pretty quickly after president biden�*s speech, do you think enough has been done to prevent any damage? remember president biden was in poland and that has more than 2 million refugees. it was a tremendously emotional moment after several weeks of a brutal war. us policy couldn't have been clear during those weeks, it is not one of regime change, it
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is not of direct military intervention. the biden administration has clearly communicated and work phenomenally well across europe to deliver a very united front. i thinkjoe biden was feeling very emotional. it does make it difficult that the problem of course people are seeing us policy and they are seeing this war through their pre—existing beliefs are many people across the world in the 35 countries that abstained from the un assembly vote, many see the us as a force, a power that believes in regime change that would take that step. so whilejoe biden�*s statement were not words of us policy, they will be read in a way that complicates diplomacy and we have seen those people around him shoring that up. there will now be very active diplomacy to work across europe to ensure that the message
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that has been so clearly communicated for the past few weeks continues to be communicated very clearly. continues to be communicated very clearl ., , , clearly. just sticking with you, the comments wouldn't _ clearly. just sticking with you, the comments wouldn't necessarily i clearly. just sticking with you, the i comments wouldn't necessarily have come as a huge surprise to the kremlin. do you think they play into putin's hans? i kremlin. do you think they play into putin's hans?— putin's hans? i think that if you are talking _ putin's hans? i think that if you are talking about _ putin's hans? i think that if you are talking about the _ putin's hans? i think that if you are talking about the people - putin's hans? i think that if you are talking about the people in i are talking about the people in russia, — are talking about the people in russia, it _ are talking about the people in russia, it is very complicated. there — russia, it is very complicated. there is— russia, it is very complicated. there is a _ russia, it is very complicated. there is a lot of this information and i_ there is a lot of this information and i think— there is a lot of this information and i think we are getting mixed views_ and i think we are getting mixed views on— and i think we are getting mixed views on how people in the country feet _ views on how people in the country feet i_ views on how people in the country feet i think— views on how people in the country feel. i think a lot of them are supportive of putin's general beliefs — supportive of putin's general beliefs about nato and western expansion. i think what we will see next, _ expansion. i think what we will see next. we _ expansion. i think what we will see next, we have seen it throughout the day and _ next, we have seen it throughout the day and we _ next, we have seen it throughout the day and we will see it in the days and weeks — day and we will see it in the days and weeks ahead, the same message we have seen. _ and weeks ahead, the same message we have seen, the us does not intend to
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use military— have seen, the us does not intend to use military force to enter directly into this _ use military force to enter directly into this war and nato and then attack— into this war and nato and then attack on — into this war and nato and then attack on nato is the red line that has clearly — attack on nato is the red line that has clearly drawn. and apart from an emotionai— has clearly drawn. and apart from an emotional response to a devastating situation, _ emotional response to a devastating situation, he was not stating us policy — situation, he was not stating us oli . ., . , situation, he was not stating us oli . ., . ., policy. some of the concerns around president biden's _ policy. some of the concerns around president biden's comments, - policy. some of the concerns around president biden's comments, was i policy. some of the concerns around. president biden's comments, was not making president putin feel boxed into a corner, not threatening him. how far do you balance that with also the need to show strength and get the message across with what putin is doing and what he has already done.— putin is doing and what he has already done. western economic sanctions have _ already done. western economic sanctions have made _ already done. western economic sanctions have made that - already done. western economic sanctions have made that clear. | already done. western economic i sanctions have made that clear. but there is an ambiguity about economic sanctions because the conditions for lifting them have not been made entirely clear. that has raised the
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suspicion that at least some forces in washington, who have said this explicitly in some cases, would like to maintain sanctions even if there is a peace agreement and an end russia's invasion, would continue sanctions in order to bring about regime change in russia. this obviously increases the ambiguity around this issue.— obviously increases the ambiguity around this issue. leslie, i saw you shakin: around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your _ around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your head _ around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your head at _ around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your head at some - around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your head at some of i around this issue. leslie, i saw you shaking your head at some of what | around this issue. leslie, i saw you i shaking your head at some of what he has said, do you want to come back on that? i has said, do you want to come back on that? ., , ., ., . ,, has said, do you want to come back on that? ., , ., ., on that? i do, there is a lack of clarity on _ on that? i do, there is a lack of clarity on what _ on that? i do, there is a lack of clarity on what conditions i on that? i do, there is a lack of clarity on what conditions it i on that? i do, there is a lack of i clarity on what conditions it would take to _ clarity on what conditions it would take to get those sanctions lifted. one reason for keeping sanctions in place _ one reason for keeping sanctions in place is _ one reason for keeping sanctions in place is because the us and europeans have very little reason to believe _ europeans have very little reason to believe that putin wouldn't use the money— believe that putin wouldn't use the money that he would earn through the development of the russian economy to rebuild _ development of the russian economy to rebuild his army and to launch a
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further— to rebuild his army and to launch a further act — to rebuild his army and to launch a further act of aggression against ukraine — further act of aggression against ukraine i— further act of aggression against ukraine. ithink further act of aggression against ukraine. i think one of the reasons for perhaps— ukraine. i think one of the reasons for perhaps keeping the sanctions is to continue — for perhaps keeping the sanctions is to continue to deter future military aggression. it is not a policy of regime — aggression. it is not a policy of regime change, that has been made clean _ regime change, that has been made clean if_ regime change, that has been made clean if you — regime change, that has been made clear. if you look at biden's track record. _ clear. if you look at biden's track record. the — clear. if you look at biden's track record, the one thing this president has done, _ record, the one thing this president has done, the one thing that marks him out, _ has done, the one thing that marks him out, he — has done, the one thing that marks him out, he has demonstrated that he is a president he wants to restrain the use _ is a president he wants to restrain the use of— is a president he wants to restrain the use of military force and to very— the use of military force and to very clearly articulate a line for us foreign policy that is limited to preventing the kind of aggression against _ preventing the kind of aggression against america's military allies, but not _ against america's military allies, but not going beyond that. it is a very different... it is one that many— very different... it is one that many presidents have wanted to enact _
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there is a difference between using military force in support of regime change and using sanctions which the us has used on frequent occasions, sometimes lasting for decades and it also hasn't worked. if your desire is to bring about a new piece dashed peace in ukraine, saying america will not let sanctions and terms the piece is a clear obstacle to a peace settlement. piece is a clear obstacle to a peace settlement-— settlement. there is a clear ambiguity — settlement. there is a clear ambiguity and _ settlement. there is a clear ambiguity and i _ settlement. there is a clear ambiguity and i think- settlement. there is a clear ambiguity and i think what i settlement. there is a clear i ambiguity and i think what we settlement. there is a clear - ambiguity and i think what we might expect— ambiguity and i think what we might expect to _ ambiguity and i think what we might expect to see is a bargain. when we -et expect to see is a bargain. when we get to— expect to see is a bargain. when we get to a _ expect to see is a bargain. when we get to a point when they are placed talks _ get to a point when they are placed talks. �* , .,. ., get to a point when they are placed talks. �* , ., . ., ., talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to — talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to cut _ talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to cut you _ talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to cut you both _ talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to cut you both are. i talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am sorry to cut you both are. there | talks. i'm sorry to cut to... i am i sorry to cut you both are. there is sorry to cut you both are. there is so much more we could say on this and it has been a really interesting, lively debate so thank you both for your time.
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president zelensky�*s top aide says the ukrainian army has been engaged in small tactical counter—offensives around kharkiv and sumy in the east. oleksiy arestovych said they were also pressing on with counter—offensives outside kyiv, and around kherson in the south. he predicted ukrainian losses in the east and south, because of a change in moscow's strategy, but gains in other parts. our correspondentjonah fisher, who's also in lviv been to meet three brits who along with hundreds from the uk, havejoined the international foreign legion and travelled to ukraine to fight against the russian forces. cj is a dog handlerfrom norwich. elliott works on building sites in colchester. kieran is a brighton plumber. i can't sit at home and watch what's going on and just carry on as usual. between them, the men have 19 years of experience with the british army and have all served in afghanistan. we catch up with them just
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after they've crossed the border from poland into ukraine. we met at the airport, and it's all been like we've known each other for a lot longer than 2a hours. having taken a £20 flight to poland, they'd slept overnight outside a railway station. cj and elliott had told their families where they were going. kieran, a father of four, had not. i didn't tell the mums, no. i didn't even tell my mum. what brought them together was a desire to do something, anything, to help ukraine. if you're not fighting on someone else's street, i will do anything. i'm a trained infantry soldier. joining this war if you are a serving british soldier
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is illegal, but for others it's more of a grey area. cj, kieran and elliott say they were pulled aside by the police for a chat as they left the uk but then allowed to travel on. my name isjulia, and what are your names? julia is returning from the border, having helped her daughter to cross. we've come to join the legion to help fight, if need be, to fight the russians. you are soldiers? you are fighters? yeah, we are ex—army. 0k. thank you very much that . you have come here to help our ukrainian soldiers. also, they are very brave, very brave. | lviv and the railway station is the volunteers' next stop. there are now serious decisions to be made about where and what comes next. what would you say to people in the uk who say you guys are just looking for the excitement of war? there is no excitement to war.
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it's not nice, it's not pleasant. you know, we've seen it. there's nothing nice about dead kids at the side of the road. and are you prepared to die here? absolutely. and with that, cj, kieran and elliott marched off — british boys in putin's war. nearly million ukrainian children have now fled russian bombardment to neighbouring countries, according to the united nations. unicef and other humanitarian organizations have warned these children along with their mothers and otherfemale ukrainian refugees are at a heightened risk of trafficking and exploitation. our europe editor katya adler sent this report from the polish ukrainian border. they grabbed what mattered most and fled for their lives. ukrainian children and women now farfrom home are forced to put their trust in strangers.
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the chaos of war now behind them, the truth is they're not always safe here either. the refugees come in. they have no idea what's going on. they can believe everybody. volunteer margarita hopes to stop fellow refugees falling into the wrong hands. we caught a person who search for beautiful women to sell them for sex work. it's horrible. so horrible, many polish people are driven to take action. we have 605 amazing women who drive as much as they can to the border. this woman has started the women behind the wheel initiative. we decided to keep this bubble of safety for these women to rest. this family is one of the lucky ones. ella has their best interest
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at heart, but five weeks into europe's biggest refugee crisis since world war ii, there is still no efficient process to screen all those claiming to help ukrainians. over the next days and weeks, people need somewhere to sleep, to eat. many tell us they are looking for a job, and these make refugees vulnerable. here in poland, people have opened their homes to ukrainians, but sadly, not everyone with the best of intentions. we hear many stories of abuse, but most victims are too scared to speak on camera. but this woman, now safely in denmark, said she wants to sound the alarm. translation: fake ngo workers approached me. | they looked at us sleazily. they told us to get in a van
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and said they would - take us to switzerland. they got angry when i asked for their ids, so i grabbed i my children and ran. human rights groups warn sex and organ traffickers are already active here. this is a region where there are well—established trafficking networks in place. at a time of growing numbers of women and children arriving, the risks are on the rise. organised crime isn't the only menace. some refugees are forced to work for free. others to have sex in exchange for lodgings. the displaced and the vulnerable need our protection. katya adler, bbc news, on the polish—ukrainian border. police in israel say that two suspected arab gunmen have opened fire and wounded two police officers in the city of hadera. police say the two suspects
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were then shot dead. last week, four israelis were killed and two wounded in an attack in the city of beersheba by an arab israeli man, who had once beenjailed for links to the islamic state group. china has announced its biggest city—wide lockdown since the covid outbreak began more than two years ago. the entire population of shanghai will be restricted to their homes over the next nine days. our china correspondent, robin brant, says the order has triggered panic—buying by residents. the city has been on its knees for two weeks but tonight, all of a sudden, areas that were reduced to being like a ghost town are full of panicked shoppers. i have been out unseen queues stretching out of shops as people are trying to stock up shops as people are trying to stock up on supplies before the lockdown kicks in on the early hours of monday morning. 25 million people are going to be affected. public
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transport is going to be shut. everyone will be subject to a citywide covid testing. they are breaking it down into two halves, the next four days will be the eastern side of the city that is in lockdown, that is where i am at the moment. after that, the western side will follow. shanghai is china's commercial capital but at the moment it is one of the worst hit areas as china is seeing a resurgence in covid cases. the numbers are relatively small, compared to international numbers, number is in just a few thousand in terms of confirmed cases but by china's standards, that is significant. what we are seeing here is yet again the use of this most harshest of measures to try to contain the virus and try to maintain covid and china's zero covid strategy. the next big question is how long will this lockdown last? other cities have had similar measures but it has
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been longer than the nine days planned here. in afghanistan, the bbc�*s persian, pashto and uzbek language service tv programmes have been taken off air, after the taliban ordered local channels not to broadcast content produced by international partners. more than six million afghans used to watch the bbc 5 tv news programmes in local languages according to the organisation. in a statement, the bbc described the development as worrying and called on the taliban to reverse their decision. bbc news has learned that ministers plan to invest up to £2 billion in the new sizewell c nuclear power station in suffolk in the east of england. the french firm, edf, will match that 20% stake — it's hoped private investors will provide the remaining £14 billion. the uk's metropolitan police have confirmed that no criminal investigation will be launched into allegations of sexual misconduct, that were made against the british actor noel clarke. last april, 20 women made claims about mr clarke in the guardian newspaper.
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at the time, he vehemently denied any sexual misconduct or criminal wrongdoing. officers said that after reviewing information detectives had decided the threshold for a criminal investigation had not been met. stars have started to arrive on the red carpet for the 2022 oscars ceremony which gets under way in los angeles, in a few hours' time. the top contenders for best picture include coda, the power of the dog and belfast. katie razzell reports from los angeles. it's the top prize the movie business has to offer, and for days they've been preparing, rolling out a show—stopping experience for the biggest night of the year. when it comes to the actual top prize, best picture, it's almost certain for the first time to be a film made by one of the streaming services. apple's coda, the story of a deaf family with one hearing child, appears to have the momentum behind it. whistling. netflix has pinned its hopes on its 1920s western
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the power of the dog. it may miss out for best picture, butjane campion looks likely to be only the third woman in history to win best director. there may be a buzz in this town about these awards, but last year's tv show attracted the lowest audience ever. can they turn it around? it's fun to watch celebrities gather. we're in, you know, we still have this pandemic, there's a war happening in europe and i think that having, i don't know, some distraction is not a terrible thing. and finding something that all of us can come together and have some emotions about is a really powerful and important thing. the ceremony will mark what's happening in ukraine. one of the hosts said she hoped president zelensky might even address the guests. as for the ceremony, the acting categories are the ones that punch out. west side story�*s arianna
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debose is tipped to win best supporting actress, the first openly queer woman of colour to take that prize. as momentous, will smith could clinch best actor, only the fifth black man to do so, for his portrayal of the father of tennis stars venus and serena williams in king richard. and troy kotsur should win best supporting actor and become the first deaf man with an acting oscar. sci—fi epic dune could win a sweep of craft categories, though for the first time, controversially, those awards aren't being handed out live. as for uk and irish hopes, they're pinned on sir kenneth branagh's belfast — up for seven oscars, including best picture. katie razzall, bbc news, los angeles. we'll be hearing more from kt in la with updates on the oscars in the next few hours. meanwhile, you can reach us on social media.
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you can reach me on twitter — i'm @luxmy—g. plenty more to come. stay with us. after the warm and often sunny days, we have become used to the forecast for this week may well be a shock to the system. it will turn colder. so in the forecast for some and the knights will become increasingly cold and frosty. as we go through tonight, temperatures will drop. where weekly is clear skies. lots of cloud and mist and fog developing, especially across eastern areas and one or two showers in northern england, may be northern ireland later in the night. seven or 8 degrees. if you see cloudy skies overhead. temperatures in the clever scots will get down to freezing a touch below.
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but into tomorrow, this area of high pressure that's been with us for so many days now — well, it begins to loosen its grip and, slowly but surely, things will start to turn a bit more unsettled. so, some of those showers through the day across parts of northern england, maybe northern ireland, some areas of low cloud down this east coast could keep it quite chilly for some north sea coastal areas. and cloud rolling up from the south as well, introducing some rain for the channel islands and possibly the odd shower for southwest england and wales during the afternoon. amidst all of that, there will still be some sunshine and some warmth, temperatures at best up to 17 or 18 degrees. as we get into tuesday, quite a lot of cloud around. some showers down towards the south — some could be heavy and thundery. we start to see a weather front setting up across scotland. that will start to bring some showers, these beginning to turn wintry, as colder air tucks in from the north, and that is a sign of things to come. as we move out of tuesday into wednesday, this weather front with a wriggle along it starts to push southwards. because of this wriggle, this wave, there's uncertainty
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aboutjust how much progress southwards this front will make, how quickly it will be moving. but what we do know is behind it, we'll see much colder air tucking in, so there is likely to be some snow, especially over higher ground. but if this weather front sits around for long enough, the snow could come down to quite low levels across northern england. lots of wintry showers packing into scotland with afternoon highs ofjust 4 or 5 degrees, and even further south, much, much chillier than it has been lately. as we look towards the end of the week, it will be chilly by day, cold and frosty by night. there will be some sunshine, but some showers of rain, sleet and snow.
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this is bbc world news, the headlines: a military intelligence chief in kyiv says moscow may be attempting to split ukraine in two afterfailing to conquer the whole country. as russia's offensive in ukraine stalls, and civilian deaths continue to rise — the two sides agree to face—to—face talks in turkey on monday. the us government clarifies president biden's comments about vladimir putin remaining in power — saying they have no plans to try and force him out. are we going to have to leave belfast? and — the wait is nearly over for this year's oscar nominees —
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