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good afternoon. welcome to bbc news. a damning report into maternity services at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust has found "catastrophic failings" over twenty years. the inquiry, led by the senior midwife donna 0ckenden, found that more than 200 babies and nine mothers who died might have survived if they'd been given the right care. ms 0ckenden described the culture at the trust as "appalling" and said "failures" in care were repeated from one incident to the next. the review covering more than 1500 incidents is thought to be largest of its kind in nhs history. it spanned a time frame of 20 years from 2000 to 2019. and identified 15 "immediate and essential actions" which must be implemented by all trusts in england providing maternity services. the trust has apologised fully for the failures and offered its sincere apologies to affected families. 0ur social affairs correspondent michael buchanan reports.

this is what justice this is whatjustice looks like, families failed by the nhs who have been vindicated by the end of that independent review. at the centre of the gathering, donna 0ckenden, the woman who delivered a devastating critique of maternity care at their shrewsbury and telford nhs trust. irate shrewsbury and telford nhs trust. - now know that this is a trust that failed to investigate, failed to learn and failed to improve. this resulted in tragedies and life—changing incidents for so many of ourfamilies. the life-changing incidents for so many of our families.— of our families. the review team found that _ of our families. the review team found that at _ of our families. the review team found that at least _ of our families. the review team found that at least 201 _ of our families. the review team found that at least 201 babies i of our families. the review team . found that at least 201 babies might have survived with better maternity care. nine mothers could also have survived. 94 children sustained a life—changing harm, such as cerebral palsy and brain injury. this life-changing harm, such as cerebral palsy and brain injury.— palsy and brain in'ury. this is all the more palsy and brain injury. this is all the more concerning, _ palsy and brain injury. this is all the more concerning, when - palsy and brain injury. this is all the more concerning, when it i palsy and brain injury. this is all the more concerning, when it is| the more concerning, when it is clear that major issues and safety were pandan —— but both midwifery

units and consultant settings. unfortunately, these cases were not isolated incidents and through the timespan of our review, we have found repeated areas in care which lead to injury to either mothers or their babies. the lead to injury to either mothers or their babies.— their babies. the review which started in _ their babies. the review which started in 2017 _ their babies. the review which started in 2017 was _ their babies. the review which started in 2017 was set - their babies. the review which started in 2017 was set up - their babies. the review which started in 2017 was set up to l their babies. the review which i started in 2017 was set up to look into 23 cases at the trust. by the time it close, more than 1000 families had come forward and a large dash back with the largest inquiry into maternity care in the nhs. i inquiry into maternity care in the nhs. ., , ._ inquiry into maternity care in the nhs. ., , , nhs. i went in on thursday, my waters were _ nhs. i went in on thursday, my waters were leaking _ nhs. i went in on thursday, my waters were leaking and - nhs. i went in on thursday, my waters were leaking and i - nhs. i went in on thursday, my waters were leaking and i was l nhs. i went in on thursday, my l waters were leaking and i was not induced _ waters were leaking and i was not induced until saturday.— induced until saturday. hayley matthews was _ induced until saturday. hayley matthews was left _ induced until saturday. hayley matthews was left in - induced until saturday. hayley matthews was left in labour . induced until saturday. hayley| matthews was left in labour for induced until saturday. hayley- matthews was left in labour for 36 hours. iiii matthews was left in labour for 36 hours. , ., , matthews was left in labour for 36 hours. , . , ., hours. if they had listened to me from the beginning, _ hours. if they had listened to me from the beginning, jack- hours. if they had listened to me| from the beginning, jack probably from the beginning, jack probably would _ from the beginning, jack probably would have been here today. in from the beginning, jack probably would have been here today. in what wa ? i would have been here today. in what way? i repeatedly — would have been here today. in what way? i repeatedly asked _ would have been here today. in what way? i repeatedly asked for- would have been here today. in what way? i repeatedly asked for a - way? i repeatedly asked for a cesarean _ way? i repeatedly asked for a cesarean and _ way? i repeatedly asked for a cesarean and i _ way? i repeatedly asked for a cesarean and i was _ way? i repeatedly asked for a cesarean and i was knocked l way? i repeatedly asked for a i cesarean and i was knocked back at every _ cesarean and i was knocked back at every chance. jack cesarean and i was knocked back at every chance-— every chance. jack was born in a oor every chance. jack was born in a poor condition _ every chance. jack was born in a poor condition and _ every chance. jack was born in a poor condition and died - every chance. jack was born in a poor condition and died just i every chance. jack was born in a poor condition and died just 11 l poor condition and died just 11 hours old.

poor condition and died 'ust 11 hours mi poor condition and died 'ust 11 hours ohhfi poor condition and died 'ust 11 hours old. , . , hours old. they literally said, we don't know _ hours old. they literally said, we don't know why _ hours old. they literally said, we don't know why he _ hours old. they literally said, we don't know why he has _ hours old. they literally said, we don't know why he has died i hours old. they literally said, we don't know why he has died and l hours old. they literally said, we j don't know why he has died and i saidr _ don't know why he has died and i said. is— don't know why he has died and i said. is that— don't know why he has died and i said, is that it? you do not know why he _ said, is that it? you do not know why he has— said, is that it? you do not know why he has died? we do not know what else to _ why he has died? we do not know what else to tell— why he has died? we do not know what else to tell you. and i wanted a postmortem, because the baby does notjust_ postmortem, because the baby does notjust die. postmortem, because the baby does not 'ust die. ., postmortem, because the baby does notjust die-— not 'ust die. today hayley thanked the notjust die. today hayley thanked the woman she _ notjust die. today hayley thanked the woman she felt _ notjust die. today hayley thanked the woman she felt had _ notjust die. today hayley thanked the woman she felt had uncoveredj not just die. today hayley thanked i the woman she felt had uncovered the extent of the problems. she genuinely — extent of the problems. she genuinely cares, _ extent of the problems. she genuinely cares, it - extent of the problems. she genuinely cares, it is - extent of the problems. she genuinely cares, it is not another baby— genuinely cares, it is not another baby or— genuinely cares, it is not another baby or another number, she cares about— baby or another number, she cares about everyone of us and as she said. _ about everyone of us and as she said. we — about everyone of us and as she said. we are _ about everyone of us and as she said, we are herfamily. any about everyone of us and as she said, we are her family. any notion that these were _ said, we are her family. any notion that these were historical- said, we are her family. any notion | that these were historical problems was firmly rejected by the findings, with donna 0ckenden saying she was very concerned about the quality current maternity care. the trust have not yet addressed those criticisms. have not yet addressed those criticisms— have not yet addressed those criticisms. ., , ., , ., criticisms. today belongs to the families who _ criticisms. today belongs to the families who have _ criticisms. today belongs to the families who have been - criticisms. today belongs to the families who have been failed . criticisms. today belongs to the | families who have been failed by criticisms. today belongs to the i families who have been failed by our trust and _ families who have been failed by our trust and as— families who have been failed by our trust and as the _ families who have been failed by our trust and as the chief— families who have been failed by our trust and as the chief executive i trust and as the chief executive now. _ trust and as the chief executive now. i— trust and as the chief executive now. i want— trust and as the chief executive now. i want to _ trust and as the chief executive now, i want to apologise - trust and as the chief executive now, i want to apologise for. trust and as the chief executivel now, i want to apologise for late for those — now, i want to apologise for late for those failures— now, i want to apologise for late for those failures and _ now, i want to apologise for late for those failures and nothing i now, i want to apologise for late l for those failures and nothing can take away— for those failures and nothing can take away from _ for those failures and nothing can take away from the _ for those failures and nothing can take away from the pain - for those failures and nothing can take away from the pain and i for those failures and nothing can i take away from the pain and distress caused _ take away from the pain and distress caused. .. ., , take away from the pain and distress

caused. ., , ., ., , caused. each family now wants the nhs to embed _ caused. each family now wants the nhs to embed each _ caused. each family now wants the nhs to embed each of— caused. each family now wants the nhs to embed each of the - nhs to embed each of the recommendations in the report across the uk. it is nothing more than the lost children deserve. michael buchanan, bbc news, shrewsbury. in a moment, we'll be talking to donna 0ckenden but first let's speak to our health correspondent rob sissons. why did it take so long for these many incidents to be properly investigated?— investigated? that is the big question. — investigated? that is the big question, isn't _ investigated? that is the big question, isn't it? _ investigated? that is the big question, isn't it? donna i investigated? that is the big - question, isn't it? donna 0ckenden, who i know you will speak to any moment, she will no doubt confirm that it moment, she will no doubt confirm thatitis moment, she will no doubt confirm that it is complex. it was a big jigsaw to put together and one of the reasons why this review took five years. but part of it was the culture of distrust, where i am now, which is the royal shrewsbury hospital, there was a mother and baby unit in telford as well, a culture of denial. there was also a desire not to carry out as many cesareans with some catastrophic

results, and there was also the fact that no one spoke up or effectively challenged. if they did speak up, they effectively challenged the management at the time, which kept changing, there was no continuity. how big an impact should the recommendations have maternity services across england? the recommendations have maternity services across england? the hope of many midwives _ services across england? the hope of many midwives is _ services across england? the hope of many midwives is that _ services across england? the hope of many midwives is that the _ services across england? the hope of many midwives is that the would i services across england? the hope of many midwives is that the would be l services across england? the hope ofj many midwives is that the would be a defining moment in the nhs. there is an opportunity now, to try and prevent these failings from happening again and we have heard before of failure is in the nhs. remember the morecambe bay hospital scandal, which was 11 babies who died and one woman and there was an inquiry into that and said another lethal mix of reasons was behind it, and this will never happen again, where the words we heard around them, but of course, changing cultures is hard. it takes money, is

there enough money coming forward, some people would say no and also right now there is a recruitment problems are maternity and retention problems are maternity and retention problems and will that impact on the pace of change. plus, you have got to have people on the same page, all committed to delivering real, lasting change. we have seen the price of failure, it is absolutely devastating for families. price of failure, it is absolutely devastating forfamilies. few price of failure, it is absolutely devastating for families. few of us can relate to the enormous pain unless we have lost a baby and the shattered dream that that involves. thank you. we can speak now to donna 0ckenden. it was a very long inquiry. what impact of hearing all of that testimony have on you? it impact of hearing all of that testimony have on you? it had a huge im act on testimony have on you? it had a huge impact on my — testimony have on you? it had a huge impact on my team — testimony have on you? it had a huge impact on my team and _ testimony have on you? it had a huge impact on my team and myself. i testimony have on you? it had a huge

impact on my team and myself. we . testimony have on you? it had a huge i impact on my team and myself. we put in place. _ impact on my team and myself. we put in place, quite rightly, professional supervision indeed, we think. _ professional supervision indeed, we think, because a number of the cases. — think, because a number of the cases, many of the cases were harrowing. _ cases, many of the cases were harrowing. they were distressing. i have met _ harrowing. they were distressing. i have met with hundreds upon hundreds, so many hundreds of families— hundreds, so many hundreds of families face—to—face here in shropshire and despite all the professional structures that we have put in _ professional structures that we have put in place to keep our team members _ put in place to keep our team members save, there were days when we would _ members save, there were days when we would go _ members save, there were days when we would go back to our hotel room and i_ we would go back to our hotel room and i would — we would go back to our hotel room and i would cry. i am not ashamed to say, and i would cry. i am not ashamed to say. seeing _ and i would cry. i am not ashamed to say, seeing the distress and grief and anger. — say, seeing the distress and grief and anger, not directed at me of course. — and anger, not directed at me of course. of— and anger, not directed at me of course, of so many families that had been _ course, of so many families that had been torn _ course, of so many families that had been torn apart, i sat and cried. more _ been torn apart, i sat and cried. more times _ been torn apart, i sat and cried. more times than i can count. i do not think that would surprise many people at all when you think that those families lost babies, it is something you can never properly get over. enormous gratitude from these families, though, in the way that you made them all feel individually

important, what is your view of the courage that they showed in making sure that they were not ignored eventually?— sure that they were not ignored eventuall ? ., , ., eventually? so, their families are absolutely central _ eventually? so, their families are absolutely central to _ eventually? so, their families are absolutely central to this - eventually? so, their families are absolutely central to this review, | absolutely central to this review, to the _ absolutely central to this review, to the successful conclusion of this review. _ to the successful conclusion of this review, families tried to speak out for years— review, families tried to speak out for years and years and until then, two sets— for years and years and until then, two sets of— for years and years and until then, two sets of parents got together, after _ two sets of parents got together, after the — two sets of parents got together, after the deaths of kate and pippa and it— after the deaths of kate and pippa and it took those families working together— and it took those families working together to uncover the original 23, as they— together to uncover the original 23, as they are — together to uncover the original 23, as they are known. it has also taken as they are known. it has also taken a lot of— as they are known. it has also taken a lot of courage for their families, even _ a lot of courage for their families, even to— a lot of courage for their families, even to speak to me, because when you are _ even to speak to me, because when you are dealing with the death of a mother. _ you are dealing with the death of a mother, the death of a baby, a child left with— mother, the death of a baby, a child left with lifelong disabilities, every— left with lifelong disabilities, every time you talk to someone about

it, it every time you talk to someone about it. it reopens— every time you talk to someone about it, it reopens wounds that were not very far— it, it reopens wounds that were not very far from the surface anyway and one of— very far from the surface anyway and one of the _ very far from the surface anyway and one of the things i said to the families— one of the things i said to the families of the enders, what would make _ families of the enders, what would make it _ families of the enders, what would make it feel worthwhile to have met donna _ make it feel worthwhile to have met donna 0ckenden? what would make you -lad donna 0ckenden? what would make you glad at _ donna 0ckenden? what would make you glad at the _ donna 0ckenden? what would make you glad at the end that you have participated and unanimously there are two— participated and unanimously there are two things, there was i want to understand — are two things, there was i want to understand what happened to me, my family. _ understand what happened to me, my family. my— understand what happened to me, my family, my baby, my wife, number one and number— family, my baby, my wife, number one and numbertwo, iwant family, my baby, my wife, number one and number two, i want to see change happen— and number two, i want to see change happen in— and number two, i want to see change happen in maternity services, so that what — happen in maternity services, so that what happened to us does not happen— that what happened to us does not happen to — that what happened to us does not happen to others. i hope that through— happen to others. i hope that through this really comprehensive review. _ through this really comprehensive review. is— through this really comprehensive review, is through listening to families. _ review, is through listening to families, respecting and being kind to families and having the most amazing — to families and having the most amazing multi—professional team working _ amazing multi—professional team working with me, viewing all of these _ working with me, viewing all of these cases, i hope that our families— these cases, i hope that our families tonight feel that it was worth— families tonight feel that it was worthjoining our families tonight feel that it was worth joining our review. families tonight feel that it was worthjoining our review. they tell me that _ worthjoining our review. they tell me that that is the case. worth joining our review. they tell me that that is the case.— me that that is the case. cultural chan . e, me that that is the case. cultural change. as _ me that that is the case. cultural

change. as it _ me that that is the case. cultural change. as it is _ me that that is the case. cultural change, as it is often _ me that that is the case. cultural change, as it is often said - me that that is the case. cultural change, as it is often said is i me that that is the case. cultural change, as it is often said is the l change, as it is often said is the hardest to bring about, how then do you think that we ensure in future how women, and it is largely women, are listening to? 50. how women, and it is largely women, are listening to?— are listening to? so, i think the very positive — are listening to? so, i think the very positive thing _ are listening to? so, i think the very positive thing that - are listening to? so, i think the very positive thing that has i are listening to? so, i think the l very positive thing that has come about— very positive thing that has come about as — very positive thing that has come about as a — very positive thing that has come about as a result of our first of port _ about as a result of our first of port and — about as a result of our first of port and our second report, is that in my— port and our second report, is that in my 30 _ port and our second report, is that in my 30 years, in and around maternity— in my 30 years, in and around maternity services, the spotlight on maternity _ maternity services, the spotlight on maternity services, the spotlight on maternity services, the spotlight on maternity services, the attention of maternity _ maternity services, the attention of maternity services, the attention of maternity services, the attention of maternity services, the desire to make _ maternity services, the desire to make things right has never been greater. — make things right has never been greater. spotlight on the service can feel— greater. spotlight on the service can feel uncomfortable, but i have a really _ can feel uncomfortable, but i have a really positive sense now that everyone _ really positive sense now that everyone in that whole system, from central _ everyone in that whole system, from central government, to the royal colleges. — central government, to the royal colleges, to midwives and doctors on the ground. — colleges, to midwives and doctors on the ground, really feel that this is the ground, really feel that this is the opportunity, we have a road ahead. — the opportunity, we have a road ahead. a — the opportunity, we have a road ahead, a blueprint for safe care, and my— ahead, a blueprint for safe care, and my strong sense is that everyone is in it— and my strong sense is that everyone is in it together. we

and my strong sense is that everyone is in it together.— is in it together. we know that there is a _ is in it together. we know that there is a chronic, _ is in it together. we know that there is a chronic, sometimes| is in it together. we know that i there is a chronic, sometimes almost a dangerous shortage of qualified midwives in our hospitals, and then they are a part of a system where people are afraid to speak up. we have heard this and other health reviews, haven't we? that is a very big worry if you cannot criticise what you see going on in your workplace. what you see going on in your workplace-— what you see going on in your work-lace. . , ., , , workplace. that is absolutely true, ou are workplace. that is absolutely true, you are completely _ workplace. that is absolutely true, you are completely correct - workplace. that is absolutely true, you are completely correct and i i workplace. that is absolutely true, | you are completely correct and i am worried _ you are completely correct and i am worried and — you are completely correct and i am worried and i have said this today and i_ worried and i have said this today and i will— worried and i have said this today and i will say it again, that staff on the — and i will say it again, that staff on the ground in this particular trust. — on the ground in this particular trust. the _ on the ground in this particular trust, the shrewsbury and telford trust. _ trust, the shrewsbury and telford trust. have — trust, the shrewsbury and telford trust, have been coming forward, right— trust, have been coming forward, right up— trust, have been coming forward, right up to — trust, have been coming forward, right up to yesterday, to me, to my team. _ right up to yesterday, to me, to my team. to say— right up to yesterday, to me, to my team, to say we are frightened to speak— team, to say we are frightened to speak out and we are frightened of reprisals. — speak out and we are frightened of reprisals. clearly, locally, that has a — reprisals. clearly, locally, that has a lot— reprisals. clearly, locally, that has a lot of work to do, to gain the confidence — has a lot of work to do, to gain the confidence of its staff and for everyone _ confidence of its staff and for everyone in the system to feel assured — everyone in the system to feel assured that those staff are unable to speak _ assured that those staff are unable to speak out. i am not assured about that at— to speak out. i am not assured about that at the moment. it is also true that at the moment. it is also true

that we _ that at the moment. it is also true that we need to deal urgently with the loss— that we need to deal urgently with the loss of midwives and doctors, because _ the loss of midwives and doctors, because midwives and doctors working together— because midwives and doctors working together are part of the multi—professional team, together are part of the multi—professionalteam, so together are part of the multi—professional team, so it is a bit like. _ multi—professional team, so it is a bit like, trying to fill a bath with the plug — bit like, trying to fill a bath with the plug out, you can port midwives and doctors — the plug out, you can port midwives and doctors into the bad, but if the plu- and doctors into the bad, but if the plug is— and doctors into the bad, but if the plug is out. — and doctors into the bad, but if the plug is out, you're never actually going _ plug is out, you're never actually going to — plug is out, you're never actually going to get to the level that you need. _ going to get to the level that you need. we — going to get to the level that you need, we urgently need to make working — need, we urgently need to make working conditions, staffing levels, that much — working conditions, staffing levels, that much better, so that our workforce _ that much better, so that our workforce is not demoralised and the royal— workforce is not demoralised and the royal college of midwives and obstetrics and gynaecology, the health select committee have been calling _ health select committee have been calling for improvements in staffing levels for _ calling for improvements in staffing levels for a long time now and i think— levels for a long time now and i think this — levels for a long time now and i think this is the moment that we finally— think this is the moment that we finally start that process. gne finally start that process. one finally start that process. one final question. _ finally start that process. one final question. this _ finally start that process. one final question. this is, - finally start that process. one final question. this is, in i finally start that process. que: final question. this is, in effect, the end of the inquiry, but it is the end of the inquiry, but it is the very beginning of the recommendations coming to be implemented, what will you be doing to make sure that what you need to

happen, it does happen? it is happen, it does happen? it is not the end, happen, it does happen? it is not the end. l'm _ happen, it does happen? it is not the end, i'm spending _ happen, it does happen? it is not the end, i'm spending the - happen, it does happen? it is not the end, i'm spending the next . happen, it does happen? it is not i the end, i'm spending the next three months. _ the end, i'm spending the next three months, most of my time, up in shrewsbury, meeting the families face—to—face. we have feedback and for all— face—to—face. we have feedback and for all of— face—to—face. we have feedback and for all of our— face—to—face. we have feedback and for all of our families who have participated in the abuse, we still have _ participated in the abuse, we still have a _ participated in the abuse, we still have a lot — participated in the abuse, we still have a lot of work to do. we didn't issue _ have a lot of work to do. we didn't issue recommendations, we issued immediate — issue recommendations, we issued immediate and essential actions, we heard _ immediate and essential actions, we heard the _ immediate and essential actions, we heard the secretary of state today accept _ heard the secretary of state today accept all — heard the secretary of state today accept all those iea is in the house of commons, and clearly i will be taking _ of commons, and clearly i will be taking a _ of commons, and clearly i will be taking a really active interest in monitoring in the nhs and maternity services. _ monitoring in the nhs and maternity services. as— monitoring in the nhs and maternity services. as these are put into place. — services. as these are put into lace. ., ~' ,, services. as these are put into lace. ., ~' y., ., services. as these are put into lace. . ., , services. as these are put into lace. ., ., , ., place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure all— place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure all of— place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure all of the _ place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure all of the families i place. thank you for clarifying and i am sure all of the families will i i am sure all of the families will be delighted to know that you are going to continue making sure that those improvements are saying. danna those improvements are saying. donna 0ckenden, thank _ those improvements are saying. donna 0ckenden, thank you. _ those improvements are saying. donna 0ckenden, thank you. thank— those improvements are saying. donna 0ckenden, thank you. thank you. i with me now is hayley matthews who's son, jack burns, was 11 hours old when he died

in 2015 from group b strep, a type of bacteria which can cause serious infection in young babies. we saw hayley a few moments ago in michael buchanan's report. we heard, hayley, some of the appalling treatment that you received when you were giving birth to your little boy. at what point did you know that there was a serious problem? flat at there was a serious problem? not at there was a serious problem? not at the time, there was a serious problem? not at the time. i — there was a serious problem? not at the time. i did _ there was a serious problem? not at the time, i did not _ there was a serious problem? not at the time, i did not know, _ there was a serious problem? not at the time, i did not know, i _ there was a serious problem? not at the time, i did not know, i thought l the time, i did not know, i thought it was— the time, i did not know, i thought it wasi'ust — the time, i did not know, i thought it wasi'ust a — the time, i did not know, i thought it was just a one—off— the time, i did not know, i thought it was just a one—off and _ the time, i did not know, i thought it was just a one—off and it - the time, i did not know, i thought it was just a one—off and it was i it was just a one—off and it was 'ust it was just a one—off and it was just jack. — it was just a one—off and it was just jack. i_ it was just a one—off and it was just jack. icame— it was just a one—off and it was just jack. i came out— it was just a one—off and it was just jack. i came out of- it was just a one—off and it was i just jack. i came out of hospital, i first met — just jack. i came out of hospital, i first met michael, _ just jack. i came out of hospital, i first met michael, and _ just jack. i came out of hospital, i first met michael, and he - just jack. i came out of hospital, i first met michael, and he said i first met michael, and he said something _ first met michael, and he said something is— first met michael, and he said something is not— first met michael, and he said something is not right - first met michael, and he said something is not right and i. first met michael, and he said i something is not right and i would like to— something is not right and i would like to help — something is not right and i would like to help you _ something is not right and i would like to help you and _ something is not right and i would like to help you and i— something is not right and i would like to help you and i found - something is not right and i would like to help you and i found out i like to help you and i found out that it — like to help you and i found out that it was _ like to help you and i found out that it was not _ like to help you and i found out that it was not just _ like to help you and i found out that it was notjust me, - like to help you and i found out that it was notjust me, there l like to help you and i found out i that it was notjust me, there were many. _ that it was notjust me, there were many. many— that it was notjust me, there were many. many more _ that it was notjust me, there were many, many more coming - that it was notjust me, there werej many, many more coming forward. that it was notjust me, there were i many, many more coming forward. horror many, many more coming forward. how did that help — many, many more coming forward. did that help you? you cannot many, many more coming forward. iiu-r did that help you? you cannot get over the loss of a baby, of course you cannot and i am glad we are able to talk aboutjack

you cannot and i am glad we are able to talk about jack with you today, but what difference did it make to have those other families to talk to and to lean on? it have those other families to talk to and to lean on?— and to lean on? it makes a huge difference. _ and to lean on? it makes a huge difference, because _ and to lean on? it makes a huge difference, because you - and to lean on? it makes a huge difference, because you know. and to lean on? it makes a huge l difference, because you know that and to lean on? it makes a huge - difference, because you know that in a bad _ difference, because you know that in a bad circumstance, _ difference, because you know that in a bad circumstance, you're _ difference, because you know that in a bad circumstance, you're not - a bad circumstance, you're not alone — a bad circumstance, you're not alone you _ a bad circumstance, you're not alone. you have _ a bad circumstance, you're not alone. you have got— a bad circumstance, you're not alone. you have got support. a bad circumstance, you're not i alone. you have got support from everyone. — alone. you have got support from everyone. you're _ alone. you have got support from everyone, you're going _ alone. you have got support from everyone, you're going through . alone. you have got support from i everyone, you're going through the same _ everyone, you're going through the same and _ everyone, you're going through the same and you — everyone, you're going through the same and you can _ everyone, you're going through the same and you can all— everyone, you're going through the same and you can all support - everyone, you're going through the same and you can all support eachi same and you can all support each other— same and you can all support each other and — same and you can all support each other and try — same and you can all support each other and try and _ same and you can all support each other and try and get _ same and you can all support each other and try and get a _ same and you can all support each other and try and get a legacy, - other and try and get a legacy, not 'ust other and try and get a legacy, not just for— other and try and get a legacy, not just for your — other and try and get a legacy, not just for your own _ other and try and get a legacy, not just for your own child, _ other and try and get a legacy, not just for your own child, but - other and try and get a legacy, not just for your own child, but every i just for your own child, but every child _ just for your own child, but every child. ~ . , just for your own child, but every child. . . , ., ., ~ just for your own child, but every child. ~ . , . child. we are 'ust looking at some ictures child. we are 'ust looking at some pictures of— child. we are just looking at some pictures of him — child. we are just looking at some pictures of him now. _ child. we are just looking at some pictures of him now. a _ child. we are just looking at some pictures of him now. a sweet - child. we are just looking at some | pictures of him now. a sweet little boy, the little boy that you lost. he was gorgeous.— boy, the little boy that you lost. he was gorgeous. beautiful. tell us about donna _ he was gorgeous. beautiful. tell us about donna 0ckenden _ he was gorgeous. beautiful. tell us about donna 0ckenden and - he was gorgeous. beautiful. tell us about donna 0ckenden and what. he was gorgeous. beautiful. tell us about donna 0ckenden and what al about donna 0ckenden and what a difference she has made to you? she will alwa s difference she has made to you? she will always forever be a friend, she has become — will always forever be a friend, she has become more _ will always forever be a friend, she has become more like _ will always forever be a friend, she has become more like family, - will always forever be a friend, she has become more like family, in. will always forever be a friend, she i has become more like family, in the five years— has become more like family, in the five years we — has become more like family, in the five years we have _ has become more like family, in the five years we have known _ has become more like family, in the five years we have known each - has become more like family, in the. five years we have known each other, she genuinely— five years we have known each other, she genuinely cares. _ five years we have known each other, she genuinely cares, she _ five years we have known each other, she genuinely cares, she has - five years we have known each other, she genuinely cares, she has a - five years we have known each other, she genuinely cares, she has a hearti she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold _ she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold it _ she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold it is— she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold it is hot _ she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold. it is notjust— she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold. it is notjust me, _ she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold. it is notjust me, she - she genuinely cares, she has a heart of gold. it is notjust me, she has. of gold. it is notjust me, she has been _ of gold. it is notjust me, she has been running _ of gold. it is notjust me, she has been running with, _ of gold. it is notjust me, she has been running with, she has - of gold. it is notjust me, she has been running with, she has beenl been running with, she has been brilliant — been running with, she has been

brilliant with _ been running with, she has been brilliant with everyone. - been running with, she has been brilliant with everyone. i- been running with, she has been brilliant with everyone. i cannoti brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank— brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank her— brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank her enough— brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank her enough for— brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank her enough for all- brilliant with everyone. i cannot thank her enough for all the - brilliant with everyone. i cannoti thank her enough for all the help and support— thank her enough for all the help and support she _ thank her enough for all the help and support she has _ thank her enough for all the help and support she has given- thank her enough for all the help and support she has given me i thank her enough for all the help. and support she has given me and everyone — and support she has given me and everyone else _ and support she has given me and everyone else. you— and support she has given me and everyone else-— everyone else. you have waited a lona time everyone else. you have waited a long time to _ everyone else. you have waited a long time to get _ everyone else. you have waited a long time to get this _ everyone else. you have waited a long time to get this report, - everyone else. you have waited a long time to get this report, it. long time to get this report, it contains 15 immediate support and actions that must be implemented across maternity services in england, what is your view of the actions that have been put forward in this report? mr; actions that have been put forward in this report?— actions that have been put forward in this report? my view is that they need to be — in this report? my view is that they need to be taking _ in this report? my view is that they need to be taking action _ need to be taking action straightaway, _ need to be taking action straightaway, and - need to be taking action straightaway, and to - need to be taking action| straightaway, and to see need to be taking action- straightaway, and to see the need to be taking action— straightaway, and to see the change in that. _ straightaway, and to see the change in that. not— straightaway, and to see the change in that. notjust— straightaway, and to see the change in that, not just the _ straightaway, and to see the change in that, notjust the book— straightaway, and to see the change in that, not just the book that - straightaway, and to see the change in that, not just the book that we i in that, not just the book that we have _ in that, not just the book that we have att— in that, not just the book that we have all got. _ in that, not just the book that we have all got, and _ in that, not just the book that we have all got, and we _ in that, not just the book that we have all got, and we need - in that, not just the book that we have all got, and we need to - in that, not just the book that we have all got, and we need to see| in that, not just the book that we . have all got, and we need to see the change _ have all got, and we need to see the change is _ have all got, and we need to see the change is make _ have all got, and we need to see the change is make sure _ have all got, and we need to see the change is make sure this— have all got, and we need to see the change is make sure this never- change is make sure this never happens — change is make sure this never happens to— change is make sure this never happens to another— change is make sure this never happens to another child - change is make sure this never happens to another child or- change is make sure this never- happens to another child or family. how important. _ happens to another child or family. how important, as— happens to another child or family. how important, as part _ happens to another child or family. how important, as part of- happens to another child or family. how important, as part of these i how important, as part of these changes, that women are listen to? i have always said from day one that it is the _ have always said from day one that it is the nrost— have always said from day one that it is the most important— have always said from day one that it is the most important thing. - it is the most important thing. mothers— it is the most important thing. mothers do— it is the most important thing. mothers do know _ it is the most important thing. mothers do know best - it is the most important thing. mothers do know best and - it is the most important thing. mothers do know best and sol it is the most important thing. l mothers do know best and so do fathers — mothers do know best and so do fathers we _

mothers do know best and so do fathers. we just _ mothers do know best and so do fathers. we just get _ mothers do know best and so do fathers. we just get shushed - mothers do know best and so do i fathers. we just get shushed down, you try— fathers. we just get shushed down, you try and — fathers. we just get shushed down, you try and speak— fathers. we just get shushed down, you try and speak out _ fathers. we just get shushed down, you try and speak out and _ fathers. we just get shushed down, you try and speak out and they - fathers. we just get shushed down, i you try and speak out and they know best and _ you try and speak out and they know best and you — you try and speak out and they know best and you have _ you try and speak out and they know best and you have to _ you try and speak out and they know best and you have to listen - you try and speak out and they know best and you have to listen to - you try and speak out and they know best and you have to listen to them. why not _ best and you have to listen to them. why not listen — best and you have to listen to them. why not listen to _ best and you have to listen to them. why not listen to us? _ best and you have to listen to them. why not listen to us? we _ best and you have to listen to them. why not listen to us? we are - why not listen to us? we are carrying _ why not listen to us? we are carrying them. _ why not listen to us? we are carrying them, we _ why not listen to us? we are carrying them, we know- why not listen to us? we are| carrying them, we know what why not listen to us? we are . carrying them, we know what is why not listen to us? we are - carrying them, we know what is best, it is our— carrying them, we know what is best, it is our body. — carrying them, we know what is best, it is our body. not— carrying them, we know what is best, it is our body, not theirs. _ carrying them, we know what is best, it is our body, not theirs. horat- it is our body, not theirs. how confident _ it is our body, not theirs. how confident do _ it is our body, not theirs. how confident do you _ it is our body, not theirs. how confident do you think- it is our body, not theirs.- confident do you think women it is our body, not theirs— confident do you think women will feel, now, now that these essential actions have been put forward, they are not in place yet. there are still women giving birth in maternity services which have not yet upped their game. i am hoping the do yet upped their game. i am hoping they do feel _ yet upped their game. i am hoping they do feel a _ yet upped their game. i am hoping they do feel a bit _ yet upped their game. i am hoping they do feel a bit more _ yet upped their game. i am hoping they do feel a bit more confident, | they do feel a bit more confident, if it was— they do feel a bit more confident, if it was me. _ they do feel a bit more confident, if it was me, myself, _ they do feel a bit more confident, if it was me, myself, now- they do feel a bit more confident, if it was me, myself, now i- they do feel a bit more confident, if it was me, myself, now i would| if it was me, myself, now i would feel a _ if it was me, myself, now i would feel a bit— if it was me, myself, now i would feel a bit more _ if it was me, myself, now i would feel a bit more confident. - if it was me, myself, now i would feel a bit more confident. a - if it was me, myself, now i would feel a bit more confident. a few. feel a bit more confident. a few years— feel a bit more confident. a few years back. _ feel a bit more confident. a few years back. i_ feel a bit more confident. a few years back, i would _ feel a bit more confident. a few years back, i would not - feel a bit more confident. a few years back, i would not think. feel a bit more confident. a few years back, i would not think orj years back, i would not think or dream — years back, i would not think or dream of— years back, i would not think or dream of having _ years back, i would not think or dream of having another- years back, i would not think or dream of having another child l dream of having another child anywhere _ dream of having another child anywhere near— dream of having another child anywhere near shropshire. i dream of having another child . anywhere near shropshire. what dream of having another child anywhere near shropshire. what needs to chance, anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change. in — anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change. in your _ anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change, in your view, _ anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change, in your view, in _ anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change, in your view, in terms - anywhere near shropshire. what needs to change, in your view, in terms of. to change, in your view, in terms of the compassion that women and families are shown?— the compassion that women and families are shown? listening as k and the way _ families are shown? listening as k and the way that _ families are shown? listening as k and the way that they _ families are shown? listening as k and the way that they treat the - and the way that they treat the mothers — and the way that they treat the

mothers. there _ and the way that they treat the mothers. there are _ and the way that they treat the mothers. there are families i and the way that they treat the i mothers. there are families that i have _ mothers. there are families that i have spoken — mothers. there are families that i have spoken to— mothers. there are families that i have spoken to that _ mothers. there are families that i have spoken to that were - mothers. there are families that i have spoken to that were held - mothers. there are families that i have spoken to that were held ini have spoken to that were held in such— have spoken to that were held in such disregard. _ have spoken to that were held in such disregard. me _ have spoken to that were held in such disregard. me myself- have spoken to that were held in such disregard. me myself i - have spoken to that were held in| such disregard. me myself i gave birth— such disregard. me myself i gave birth to _ such disregard. me myself i gave birth to jack _ such disregard. me myself i gave birth to jack in _ such disregard. me myself i gave birth to jack in one _ such disregard. me myself i gave birth to jack in one room - such disregard. me myself i gave birth to jack in one room and - such disregard. me myself i gavel birth to jack in one room and then me and _ birth to jack in one room and then me and my— birth to jack in one room and then me and my partner— birth to jack in one room and then me and my partner had _ birth to jack in one room and then me and my partner had him - birth to jack in one room and then me and my partner had him over. birth to jack in one room and then| me and my partner had him over a two-day— me and my partner had him over a two-day period. _ me and my partner had him over a two—day period, which _ me and my partner had him over a two—day period, which should - me and my partner had him over a| two—day period, which should have been _ two—day period, which should have been in _ two—day period, which should have been in a _ two—day period, which should have been in a quiet— two—day period, which should have been in a quiet room, _ two—day period, which should have been in a quiet room, to— two—day period, which should have been in a quiet room, to be - two—day period, which should have been in a quiet room, to be able i two—day period, which should have j been in a quiet room, to be able to spend _ been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time — been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time with _ been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time with your— been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time with your child, - been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time with your child, but - been in a quiet room, to be able to spend time with your child, but we | spend time with your child, but we were _ spend time with your child, but we were in— spend time with your child, but we were in a _ spend time with your child, but we were in a room— spend time with your child, but we were in a room two— spend time with your child, but we were in a room two doors- spend time with your child, but we were in a room two doors away- spend time with your child, but we i were in a room two doors away from the room _ were in a room two doors away from the room i_ were in a room two doors away from the room i give _ were in a room two doors away from the room i give birth— were in a room two doors away from the room i give birth in— were in a room two doors away from the room i give birth in and - were in a room two doors away from the room i give birth in and you - were in a room two doors away from the room i give birth in and you arei the room i give birth in and you are inthere— the room i give birth in and you are inthere and— the room i give birth in and you are in there and all— the room i give birth in and you are in there and all you _ the room i give birth in and you are in there and all you can— the room i give birth in and you are in there and all you can hear is- in there and all you can hear is babies— in there and all you can hear is babies crying. _ in there and all you can hear is babies crying, because - in there and all you can hear is babies crying, because women in there and all you can hear is- babies crying, because women have 'ust babies crying, because women have just given _ babies crying, because women have just given birth _ babies crying, because women have just given birth. i— babies crying, because women have just given birth. ithink— babies crying, because women have just given birth. i think that - babies crying, because women have just given birth. i think that is - just given birth. i think that is the most _ just given birth. i think that is the most dramatic _ just given birth. i think that is the most dramatic and - just given birth. i think that is the most dramatic and thing i just given birth. i think that is i the most dramatic and thing and just given birth. i think that is - the most dramatic and thing and that leaves _ the most dramatic and thing and that leaves the _ the most dramatic and thing and that leaves the most _ the most dramatic and thing and that leaves the most horrendous - the most dramatic and thing and that leaves the most horrendous start. i leaves the most horrendous start. why do _ leaves the most horrendous start. why do you — leaves the most horrendous start. why do you believe _ leaves the most horrendous start. why do you believe this _ leaves the most horrendous start. why do you believe this culture i leaves the most horrendous start. i why do you believe this culture was allowed to develop? these are people who go into caring professions and yet there was a distinct lack of care and compassion towards you at times. �* ., , ., times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is — times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is the — times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is the fact _ times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is the fact that _ times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is the fact that they - times. i'm not quite sure, to me i think it is the fact that they might j think it is the fact that they might lose their— think it is the fact that they might lose theiriob _ think it is the fact that they might lose theirjob if— think it is the fact that they might lose theirjob if they _ think it is the fact that they might lose theirjob if they did _ think it is the fact that they might lose theirjob if they did speak - lose theirjob if they did speak out _ lose theirjob if they did speak out i— lose theirjob if they did speak out ithink— lose theirjob if they did speak out. ithinkthat_ lose theirjob if they did speak out. i think that has— lose theirjob if they did speak out. i think that has been- lose theirjob if they did speak. out. i think that has been going lose theirjob if they did speak - out. i think that has been going on for quite _

out. i think that has been going on for quite a — out. i think that has been going on for quite a long _ out. i think that has been going on for quite a long period _ out. i think that has been going on for quite a long period of- out. i think that has been going on for quite a long period of time. - out. i think that has been going on for quite a long period of time. i. for quite a long period of time. i am hoping — for quite a long period of time. i am hoping now— for quite a long period of time. i am hoping now that _ for quite a long period of time. i am hoping now that they- for quite a long period of time. i am hoping now that they are - for quite a long period of time. i- am hoping now that they are allowed to speak— am hoping now that they are allowed to speak out. — am hoping now that they are allowed to speak out. not _ am hoping now that they are allowed to speak out, not lose _ am hoping now that they are allowed to speak out, not lose their - am hoping now that they are allowed to speak out, not lose theirjob, - to speak out, not lose theirjob, and take — to speak out, not lose theirjob, and take on— to speak out, not lose theirjob, and take on board _ to speak out, not lose theirjob, and take on board what - to speak out, not lose theirjob, and take on board what this- to speak out, not lose theirjob, i and take on board what this review means— and take on board what this review means for— and take on board what this review means for everyone _ and take on board what this review means for everyone in _ and take on board what this review means for everyone in the - and take on board what this review means for everyone in the uk. - and take on board what this review means for everyone in the uk. iiiiihzl means for everyone in the uk. we heard means for everyone in the uk. heard from donna that she will means for everyone in the uk.“ heard from donna that she will still be back at their shrewsbury and telford nhs trust working with family still and keeping an eye on the action is being implemented. hayley, it must be incredibly hard to talk about this every time you get asked questions, but thank you for doing so and thank you for talking to us about jack. for doing so and thank you for talking to us about jack. you're welcome- _ talking to us about jack. you're welcome. thank _ talking to us about jack. you're welcome. thank you _ talking to us about jack. you're welcome. thank you for - talking to us about jack. you're welcome. thank you for having | talking to us about jack. you're - welcome. thank you for having me. and if you've been affected by this news details of organisations offering information and support are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline, or you can call forfree, at any time to hear recorded information on 08000155 998. borisjohnson has been facing questions by senior mps at the liaison committee.

they focused on the war in ukraine and the cost of living. but initial questions honed in on partygate, after the met revealed it had issued 20 fixed penalty notices so far for lockdown—breaking parties in and around downing street. 0ur political correspondent, damian grammaticas is at westminster. they have been watching for us. the liaison committee is the meeting that will grill the prime minister and there may be other big things going on, but no one has let go of partygate going on, but no one has let go of pa rtygate yet. going on, but no one has let go of partygate yet. ida. going on, but no one has let go of partygate yet-— going on, but no one has let go of partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on _ partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on this _ partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on this issue _ partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on this issue just - partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on this issue just as - partygate yet. no, they tried to pin him down on this issue just as keir| him down on this issuejust as keir starmer tried to pin him down in pm cues earlier. he had said that there would be no rule breaking, but now the police are issuing at least 20 fixed penalty notices because people had broken the law. keir starmer said that that would be misleading the house of commons, that would be

a breach of the ministerial code. it was pressed on that by the mps here saying it was not a resigning matter. would he admit that there had been criminality? this is what he said. let had been criminality? this is what he said. , had been criminality? this is what he said. ., , had been criminality? this is what he said. . , ., he said. let me say, generally, on this whole — he said. let me say, generally, on this whole issue. _ he said. let me say, generally, on this whole issue. i had _ he said. let me say, generally, on this whole issue. i had been - he said. let me say, generally, on | this whole issue. i had been several times— this whole issue. i had been several times to _ this whole issue. i had been several times to the — this whole issue. i had been several times to the house to talk about this and — times to the house to talk about this and to — times to the house to talk about this and to explain and to apologise and to— this and to explain and to apologise and to set— this and to explain and to apologise and to set out the things that we are doing — and to set out the things that we are doing and to change the way things— are doing and to change the way things run— are doing and to change the way things run in number 10 and we will do that _ things run in number 10 and we will do that. what i said and said repeatedly, i hope you will forgive me if— repeatedly, i hope you will forgive me if i_ repeatedly, i hope you will forgive me if i return to the same, i said repeatedty— me if i return to the same, i said repeatedly that i will not give a running — repeatedly that i will not give a running commentary on an investigation that is under way and i investigation that is under way and i know— investigation that is under way and i know and — investigation that is under way and i know and people will be naturally curious _ i know and people will be naturally curious about things and i understand that, but ijust think it

would _ understand that, but ijust think it would be — understand that, but ijust think it would be wrong of me to deviate from that. ~ . would be wrong of me to deviate from that. ~ , ., , that. the mps did not give up there, the ke -t that. the mps did not give up there, they kept pressing. _ that. the mps did not give up there, they kept pressing, the _ that. the mps did not give up there, they kept pressing, the snp - that. the mps did not give up there, they kept pressing, the snp mp - that. the mps did not give up there, | they kept pressing, the snp mp pete wishart suggested that the prime minister would be toast if he himself was issued without fixed penalty notice and he went on to say that pete wishart had a musician in a scottish band and he said that he had been a rock and roll musician for 15 years and he could compete with the culture in downing street. it said that the date that their fixed penalty notices were announced, the prime minister had then gone to a party with conservative mps, which was also the anniversary of the founding of the covid memorial wall here in london. pete wishart said that many of those families would find that quite a difficult contrast. here is what he said. ., ., , ., ., said. you thought this was going to be ut

said. you thought this was going to be put aside _ said. you thought this was going to be put aside and _ said. you thought this was going to be put aside and no _ said. you thought this was going to be put aside and no one _ said. you thought this was going to be put aside and no one would - said. you thought this was going to be put aside and no one would be l be put aside and no one would be interested — be put aside and no one would be interested. the _ be put aside and no one would be interested. the optics _ be put aside and no one would be interested. the optics of- be put aside and no one would bej interested. the optics of parading your mps— interested. the optics of parading your mps in— interested. the optics of parading your mps in front _ interested. the optics of parading your mps in front of— interested. the optics of parading your mps in front of the _ interested. the optics of parading your mps in front of the parade, i interested. the optics of paradingi your mps in front of the parade, to id your mps in front of the parade, to go and _ your mps in front of the parade, to go and party— your mps in front of the parade, to go and partyagain. _ your mps in front of the parade, to go and party again, the _ your mps in front of the parade, to go and party again, the day- your mps in front of the parade, to go and party again, the day that i your mps in front of the parade, to. go and party again, the day that you received _ go and party again, the day that you received fixed _ go and party again, the day that you received fixed penalty _ go and party again, the day that you received fixed penalty notices, - go and party again, the day that you received fixed penalty notices, that| received fixed penalty notices, that was dreadful— received fixed penalty notices, that was dreadful optics. _ received fixed penalty notices, that was dreadful optics.— was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time _ was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time for _ was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time for me _ was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time for me to - was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time for me to talk - was dreadful optics. pete, there will be a time for me to talk to l was dreadful optics. pete, there i will be a time for me to talk to you at length — will be a time for me to talk to you at length. that is your view. you are entitled _ at length. that is your view. you are entitled to your characterisation of events. i have no wish _ characterisation of events. i have no wish to — characterisation of events. i have no wish to engage with you in the dispute _ no wish to engage with you in the dispute about how you choose to see things. _ dispute about how you choose to see things. that — dispute about how you choose to see things, that is not the way i see things — things, that is not the way i see things. where i think you and i are certainly— things. where i think you and i are certainly in — things. where i think you and i are certainly in agreement, was it would be right— certainly in agreement, was it would be right for— certainly in agreement, was it would be right for me to come back before this committee and when the investigation is concluded, to set out what — investigation is concluded, to set out what i — investigation is concluded, to set out what i think and to be properly interrogated about the findings of

the investigators. that has not happened yet, the thing is not over and any— happened yet, the thing is not over and any such discussion, is in my view, _ and any such discussion, is in my view, premature. no and any such discussion, is in my view, premature.— and any such discussion, is in my view, premature. no pinning down of the prime minister _ view, premature. no pinning down of the prime minister there _ view, premature. no pinning down of the prime minister there and - view, premature. no pinning down of the prime minister there and without| the prime minister there and without the prime minister there and without the mp5 moved on to the issue of ukraine. there was quite a lot of focus that one in 100, so for the people that want to host ukrainians in their home, 2500 lasers have been issued and the prime minister hoped that could be sped up and it was important to have checks. he was questioned a lot on how that was happening slowly, and he was also asked whether he thought that president macron of france, continuing to talk about vladimir putin was a good thing. here is his reply? i putin was a good thing. here is his rel ? ~' putin was a good thing. here is his rel? ~' .,

reply? i think the most important thin and reply? i think the most important thing and here, _ reply? i think the most important thing and here, i— reply? i think the most important thing and here, i think— reply? i think the most importanti thing and here, i think emmanuel macron— thing and here, i think emmanuel macron and i will be in total agreement, the most important thing is whatever— agreement, the most important thing is whatever happens should be what the ukrainians want and it is for them _ the ukrainians want and it is for them to— the ukrainians want and it is for them to decide what their future should _ them to decide what their future should pay. that is what is at stake here _ should pay. that is what is at stake here it _ should pay. that is what is at stake here it is — should pay. that is what is at stake here. it is not for any of us, whatever— here. it is not for any of us, whatever we may think, to try and recreate _ whatever we may think, to try and recreate a — whatever we may think, to try and recreate a future for them. it is for them — recreate a future for them. it is for them to— recreate a future for them. it is for them to decide.— recreate a future for them. it is for them to decide. talking about president biden's _ for them to decide. talking about president biden's comments, - for them to decide. talking about i president biden's comments, boris johnson said it was not policy to think that the russian president should be out of office but he said it was important that the uk, or he wanted the uk to step up support for ukraine, military support, and he also said that in his view he should continue to intensify sanctions with a rolling programme until every single one of those russian troops

is out of ukraine. saying, that within his view, he once pressured to continue and be ramped up, even as russia is talking about potentially pausing operations around kyiv. thank you. damian grammaticas. some breaking news, the wanted star tom parker has died at the age of 33. he had been diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour, he was a singer with the band the wanted and tom parker had told fans in october 2020 about the diagnosis and the fact that it was a terminal tumour. his wife has been posting on social media confirming that he had died and she said our hearts are broken, we cannot imagine life without his infectious smile and energetic presence. no doubt there will be many tributes in the world

of entertainment and music in particular to that news that tom parker from the wanted has died, aged 33. the ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky has expressed scepticism about moscow's plan to scale back its forces around kyiv and the northern city of chernihiv, which was announced after talks yesterday between the two sides. he says he'lljudge russia's offer by 'concrete results'. the governor of the northern chernihiv region said he'd seen no let—up overnight, with air strikes hitting civilian infrastructures. us and ukrainian officials say russia is continuing to reposition forces away from kyiv, likely to be as part of an effort to refocus on eastern regions. anna foster reports let us cross to my colleague anna foster who is in lviv.— foster who is in lviv. thank you. when those _ foster who is in lviv. thank you. when those talks _ foster who is in lviv. thank you. when those talks broke - foster who is in lviv. thank you. when those talks broke up - foster who is in lviv. thank you. - when those talks broke up yesterday, it was the fresh round of talks, the first to be held in istanbul. their

worst hope, certainly from turkey who hope to be a mediator in this, that things might be about to change, what we saw yesterday was a delegation is coming out of the meetings, the ukrainians and russians talking about what might be different. russia talked about maybe pulling forces away from kyiv and chernihiv in order to build trust. there was cynicism, as there has been throughout this conflict, when russia says that it is going to do something, of than it does something entirely different and so it came to pass, that the day and overnight, we have seen russian bombardments continue in the same areas in chernihiv, in places like mariupol and in mykolaiv, were 12 people were killed when a russian rocket punched as hole in the centre of a municipal building. i have spent some time looking at whether anything has shifted in this conflict in the last 24 shifted in this conflict in the last 2a hours. amid so much destruction it is hard to believe that change is coming. ukrainian forces say they have recaptured what is left of irpin, north of kiev.

after peace talks yesterday in turkey, russia said it would scale down its military operations in this region. but this morning shelling still echoed around the capital. and that means the claims of a russian pullback are being met with scepticism. translation: yes, we can call positive the signals we hear from the negotiating platform, but these signals do not silence the explosion of the russian shells. of course, we see all the risks, of course, we see no reason to trust the words of certain representatives of a state that continues to fight. a some people are returning home, to a city that has changed forever. in kyiv they watch to see

if russian forces are leaving and they will wait to see if they come back. but many ukrainians are still farfrom home. ivan isjust 17. he escaped from kharkiv, leaving his mother and family behind, and now he and his girlfriend are living on the floor of a theatre rehearsal room. when you go out from the basement the shock waves from explosions throw uou the wall. it is like the second sun. your mother is still in kharkiv, that must be hard for you? what can i say? it is a bit painful. in fact, it is too painful. mama said you have to be ready for any situation because every call could be the last call. in the east of ukraine millions of people are still living under heavy bombardment. and in donetsk homes have been shelled again. another reason why ukrainians are bracing themselves for a long and painful conflict. anna foster, bbc news.

one area close to kyiv that seen intense fighting is the town which he saw pictures of just there. ukrainian forces managed to take it back from the russian forces earlier this week, but that came at a heavy cost for the civilian population and the local defenders. a short while ago, the town's mayor told the media that an estimated 200—300 civilians were killed — before before the town was taken back. currently it is still dangerous in ukraine and i will explain why. we are constantly shelled from multiple launch rocket systems. heavy artillery shelling and sometimes from tanks and from rifles but

completely controlled by our militaries and no russian invaders here any more. there are currently still a lot of local people who did not want to leave the city and there are local people who stayed also in the occupied territory and it was 30% of the total area of the city. that success in irpin has made it a symbolic town in this conflict, somewhere that places elsewhere in ukraine are looking at and hoping that they can potentially emulate and push back russian forces themselves. thank you very much. a teenager has been convicted of the manslaughter of 14—year—old dea john reid, who was stabbed in birmingham last may.

our correspondent phil mackie is here. he has been described by his family has a much loved brother, son and uncle and he had been out on the end of may on a bank holiday monday with a group of his fans. there are been an altercation with another group of teenagers who accuse them of trying to steal a bag. they thought that matter had been settled but not long after that, the other group returned with two adults, they chased dea—john through a busy shopping precinct in birmingham and at the end of that moment... a teenager who was 1a at the time, 15 now, carrying a knife... died from a single stab wound to the chest. there has been a trial going on here for three weeks and at the end of that trial today... having been cleared of murder and all of the other

defendants, the four other people who had been involved in the chase of dea—john were all of murder and manslaughter and there was another defendant who was accused of assisting an offender. she was cleared as well. we have had a statement subsequently. dea—john's statement subsequently. dea —john's family statement subsequently. dea—john's family say they are mortified at the verdict. they saw things differently to the jury here and there have also raised the question of the make—up ofjuries in a city like birmingham, saying that it needs to reflect the make—up of the people who live in this area as well. the 15—year—old has now been convicted, as i say, of manslaughter. you will sentenced at a later date, most probably a fifth. phil, thank you very much. apologies for the break—up in the sound there at times when we were hearing from phil.

concerns of a long waiting times, nhs staff shortages and inadequate government funding remain the top reasons people gave for being dissatisfied last year. let's speak to chief economist and director of research with the nuffield trust,. he is joint research with the nuffield trust,. he isjoint read author of research with the nuffield trust,. he is joint read author of those findings. thank you very much for joining us. this is a huge drop in satisfaction. i suppose the pandemic explain some of it but does it explain some of it but does it explain all of it? it explain some of it but does it explain all of it?— explain all of it? it is hard to completely _ explain all of it? it is hard to completely interpret - explain all of it? it is hard to completely interpret public l explain all of it? it is hard to - completely interpret public service like this. is that covid has had a huge impact on people satisfaction with the nhs. we can think back to the beginnings of the pandemic, the clap for carers and people were very supportive of the nhs and i still

think they are. i think it has gone on a long time and the reactions of the nhs to the covid pandemic, which i'm sure people understood in terms of social distancing, having to delay operations to deal with care the patient and so on has led to a huge increase in waiting lists and waiting times and as you say, when we ask people, where you dissatisfied with the nhs, the key reason give our long waits for gp and hospital services and also when we ask them about their main priority for the nhs, they say, actually reducing waiting is their main priority sol actually reducing waiting is their main priority so i mean, it has been an extraordinary time for everybody, of course. including their nhs so it seems that covid has been the main driver behind this drop in satisfaction. to

driver behind this drop in satisfaction.— driver behind this drop in satisfaction. ., . satisfaction. to what extent did 0 - inion satisfaction. to what extent did opinion vary — satisfaction. to what extent did opinion vary according - satisfaction. to what extent did opinion vary according to - satisfaction. to what extent did opinion vary according to age i satisfaction. to what extent did | opinion vary according to age or income or your political allegiance? well, there is no single sort of collars. the fall in satisfaction is almost identical across men and women, young and old, all political affiliations. geography as well. it is across all nhs services including general practice. we have seen a 30% drop in satisfaction with the general practice compared to 2019, and general practice is a hugely popular service. historically, for the survey which started in 1983, gps have been, in a sense, the most popular service that people are most satisfied with gps. up in the 80% with satisfaction. but it has dropped considerably and the same for outpatients, inpatients, dentistry, accident and emergency

and so on. i admit how likely is it, then, that findings like this will change policy or make the government rethink in terms of funding staffing for the nhs? well, the nhs across scotland and wales and england, where the survey was conducted, all the nhs in those regions have recovery plans but as the health secretary has pointed out, and i agree, waiting lists will get worse before they get better. i think the key thing is that the nhs is honest about what it can achieve, given the resources it has been given. it has a huge backlog of care. we know that waiting lists are now something like over seven at the half—million scotland, wales and england. the haze they have ever been on record. there are people waiting an awful long time now. and it is going to take time. i mean, the target is, over the next few years, to get back

to a point where waiting lists start to a point where waiting lists start to come down. whether the public are going to feel that that is a fast enough recovery, i think remains to be seen. ., , g. enough recovery, i think remains to beseen. ., a, _ be seen. professorjohn appleby, thank ou be seen. professorjohn appleby, thank you very — be seen. professorjohn appleby, thank you very much _ be seen. professorjohn appleby, thank you very much for - be seen. professorjohn appleby, thank you very much forjoining . be seen. professorjohn appleby, i thank you very much forjoining us. borisjohnson has been facing questions by senior mps at the liaison committee. they focused on the war in ukraine and the cost of living. but initial questions honed in on partygate, after the met revealed it had issued 20 fixed penalty notices so far for lockdown—breaking parties in and around downing street. sebastian payne is the whitehall editor of the financial times. we have not heard much in recent weeks because attention has been turned to the russian invasion of ukraine but it was front and centre today. it ukraine but it was front and centre toda . , ., today. it by the same at prime minister's _ today. it by the same at prime minister's questions _ today. it by the same at prime minister's questions as - today. it by the same at prime minister's questions as well. | today. it by the same at prime | minister's questions as well. it today. it by the same at prime - minister's questions as well. it was dominated in part byjuror starmer asking questions about has boris johnson misled the house of commons because he has been asked many times

about these gatherings that were held in 2020 and 202021 downing street and beyond and he has always insisted that guidelines were followed at all times and we now know that was really not quite the case. the met have issued 25, we do not know who it is too. we don't know if it was 20 different people, coronavirus guidelines were not followed otherwise they would not haveissued followed otherwise they would not have issued these fines. committee at the head of all the other parliamentary committees including the prime minister today, they asked him again, you know, have you misled what happened there? the premise is that he would not get into it. he would wait until the inquiries were finished when sue gray, the senior civil servant has finished her inquiry and then he will explain the whole situation and at that point, you could imagine, a big mea culpa from borisjohnson. some policy change and a drinking ban in downing street, for example. for the moment, hejust street, for example. for the moment, he just trying to dad about it

ignore the issue and focus on other things. ignore the issue and focus on other thins. ~ ., ignore the issue and focus on other thins. ~ . .,, ignore the issue and focus on other thins. ~' . .,, ., , ignore the issue and focus on other thinus. ~' . . , . things. ukraine was a very important toic of things. ukraine was a very important topic of discussion. _ things. ukraine was a very important topic of discussion. what _ things. ukraine was a very important topic of discussion. what more - things. ukraine was a very important topic of discussion. what more did . topic of discussion. what more did we learn about borisjohnson's approach to vladimir putin? i approach to vladimir putin? i thought the most significant thing from the liaison committee was boris johnson saying that even if there is a ceasefire, the g7 will not withdraw sanctioned because there has been chatter that some european countries, maybe france and germany, for example, may want to pullback those economic sanctions in return for a ceasefire and borisjohnson said, no. we should absolutely not do that. he said sanctions should not be withdrawn until all land is given back to ukraine and every single russian soldier has left the country. again, that is obviously his view and not all countries will agree to that but i think, in terms of the other things on ukraine policy. he was asked about the no—fly zone. he was asked about the slow uptake of visas and said he wants to see that speed up and more

visas be issued to refugees quicker but fundamentally i don't think will tell as a huge amount then we knew before. . .,, tell as a huge amount then we knew before. ..,, ., tell as a huge amount then we knew before. . ., . , , before. the cost of living crisis was touched _ before. the cost of living crisis was touched upon _ before. the cost of living crisis was touched upon as - before. the cost of living crisis was touched upon as well - before. the cost of living crisis was touched upon as well and | before. the cost of living crisisl was touched upon as well and it before. the cost of living crisis . was touched upon as well and it is an opportunity for the liaison committee to grill the prime minister after the spring statement which many people felt did not help those who were most in need. it was those who were most in need. it was interesting- — those who were most in need. it was interesting. there _ those who were most in need. it was interesting. there were _ those who were most in need. it was interesting. there were a _ those who were most in need. it was interesting. there were a lot - those who were most in need. it was interesting. there were a lot of - interesting. there were a lot of questions about the cost of living but not a huge amount of answers there. the prime minister sticking to the spring statement and saying they put various things and including the cuts to fuel duty and the extra household allowance and also the increase in the national insurance threshold but he would not get further measures and i think he reflected the line of the chancellor, which is wait and see. wait and see what happens to fuel costs. see if gas prices do come down. be prepared to do more in the future because of the classic mindset of the treasury to wait and see wherever possible. that was the

line the prime minister reiterated throughout his hearing. goad line the prime minister reiterated throughout his hearing.— line the prime minister reiterated throughout his hearing. good to talk to ou. throughout his hearing. good to talk to yon thank— throughout his hearing. good to talk to you. thank you. _ more now on the damning report into maternity services at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust, which has found "catastrophic failings" over 20 years. health secretary sajid javid paid tribute to the families who lost loved ones and who pushed for this inquiry what is your reaction to the findings and those 15 immediate action she wants to see? goad action she wants to see? good evenina. action she wants to see? good evening- i _ action she wants to see? good evening. i have _ action she wants to see? good evening. i have to _ action she wants to see? good evening. i have to say, - action she wants to see? good evening. i have to say, it - action she wants to see? good evening. i have to say, it is - action she wants to see? good evening. i have to say, it is a l action she wants to see? good i evening. i have to say, it is a very sobering, almost shocking report. the fact that it took such a long time for those women and families to be listened to. but i think the report also showed that there were definite issues about staff in the service and the women were not listened to in terms of the underpinning culture. so something

about targets driving clinical practice rather than it being women centred. actually, it is about how can we all come together to take those 15 immediate and essential actions, and respond to them, look at how culture can be changed. how we can certainly increase the workforce in maternity services and so we can all move forward to make sure that women get save high quality care in the future. harper sure that women get save high quality care in the future. how do we aet quality care in the future. how do we net to quality care in the future. how do we get to the _ quality care in the future. how do we get to the point _ quality care in the future. how do we get to the point where - quality care in the future. how do we get to the point where people | quality care in the future. how do . we get to the point where people are afraid to speak up and point out problems that are happening right under their noses? that problems that are happening right under their noses?— under their noses? that is one of the concerning _ under their noses? that is one of the concerning things. _ under their noses? that is one of the concerning things. i - under their noses? that is one of the concerning things. i would i the concerning things. i would advocate for women who are not able to access the care that is right for them and save care so there is something about that culture. we must understand so we can make sure that those lessons can be taken into

other maternity services because we must help people who work in maternity services. we want every woman to have a midwife and be able to stand up and say when they are not happy with the quality and definitely the safety of care that they are able to provide. the tone that is set comes _ they are able to provide. the tone that is set comes from _ they are able to provide. the tone that is set comes from the - they are able to provide. the tone that is set comes from the top - they are able to provide. the tone i that is set comes from the top down but, if you are drawn to midwifery, or health care in any form, you would expect to be a caring, compassionate person, so how is it, then, that so many of these women, these families who lost mothers, lost babies, were not given those most basic of considerations? you are absolutely _ most basic of considerations? wm. are absolutely right. acceptable and is shocking. some of it, we think, and it has been identified, they did not have time, and then it becomes

more ordinary to acceptable standards, poor communication, not being able to do the right thing for women. and it becomes the norm. now, we do understand that some of those that absolutely tried to speak out but were unable to do so. the very people we want to advocate for women could not do it. and that is part of what we have got to change. we must listen to women and families and we must make sure that the staff caring for them can do so safely and can speak out if they cannot do that. thank you very much forjoining us. and if you've been affected by this news, details of organisations offering information and support are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline, or you can call for free, at any time to hear recorded information on 08000155 998. some making news from the house of

commons. mps have voted to keep at home early abortion services in england. it was brought in during the pandemic so that women could avoid face to face contact. the service allows women to take abortion pills at home after having an online consultation was of the government was going to cut their service and return to pre—pandemic arrangements which meant that women would have to take the first pill under medical supervision. a number of mps to raise concern about women's safety especially those seeking an abortion under the age of 18, obviously worried about safeguarding matters. there was a free vote. 215 mp5 voted for the service to continue. 188 voted for it to end. scotland does not last remaining covid regulations over the wearing of face coverings will be lifted but not until the 18th of april. nicola sturgeon confirmed that, untilthen, it remains mandatory to wear facemasks on

public transport, shops and other places indoors but the first minister has outlined plans to phase out the mandatory use of masks in some settings. out the mandatory use of masks in some settings— out the mandatory use of masks in some settings. out the mandatory use of masks in some settinas. ., a, ._ some settings. from next monday, the 4th of some settings. from next monday, the ltth of april. — some settings. from next monday, the ltth of april. it — some settings. from next monday, the 4th of april, it will— some settings. from next monday, the 4th of april, it will no _ some settings. from next monday, the 4th of april, it will no longer _ some settings. from next monday, the 4th of april, it will no longer be - some settings. from next monday, the 4th of april, it will no longer be a - lith of april, it will no longer be a legal requirement to wear a face covering in places of worship or attending a marriage ceremony, civil partnership registration or funeral service or commemorative event. the wider legal requirements according to shops, will be converted two weeks later in the 18th of april. we welcome of course, continue to encourage the waving of face coverings in certain indoor places especially where significant numbers of people are present. this phased approach strikes, i think, a sensible balance between our desire to remove this one remaining legal measure and the common—sense need for continued caution. not least for the sake of the nhs while this wave of infection does subside. but the sake of the nhs while this wave of infection does subside.— of infection does subside. but the leader of the _ of infection does subside. but the leader of the scottish _ of infection does subside. but the l leader of the scottish conservatives called for all legal requirements

around face coverings to be scrapped. around face coverings to be scrapped-— around face coverings to be scraued. ., , scrapped. countries across the uk and europe _ scrapped. countries across the uk and europe have _ scrapped. countries across the uk and europe have already - scrapped. countries across the uk and europe have already removed j and europe have already removed restrictions and are living with covid — restrictions and are living with covid but— restrictions and are living with covid. but today, the first minister has signalled that facemasks will continue — has signalled that facemasks will continue for several more weeks. now, _ continue for several more weeks. now. we — continue for several more weeks. now, we believe that anyone who wants _ now, we believe that anyone who wants to — now, we believe that anyone who wants to keep wearing a facemask, should _ wants to keep wearing a facemask, should keep doing so, particularly if that— should keep doing so, particularly if that will— should keep doing so, particularly if that will help vulnerable friends and relatives. but it should be down to individual choice. as it is another— to individual choice. as it is another part of the united kingdom. we should _ another part of the united kingdom. we should leave it up to people and businesses — we should leave it up to people and businesses to decide what is best for them — businesses to decide what is best for them based on public health advice — for them based on public health advice. nicola sturgeon has to start trusting _ advice. nicola sturgeon has to start trusting the people of scotland. thisiust — trusting the people of scotland. thisjust is not an inconvenience. it's thisjust is not an inconvenience. it's really— thisjust is not an inconvenience. it's really holding some people back _ it's really holding some people back. retaining facemasks in schools and businesses is damaging for young peoples _ and businesses is damaging for young peoples education and limiting to scotland's economy.— peoples education and limiting to scotland's economy. in melbourne a crowd of tens

of thousands of people have attended a state memorial service celebrating the life of shane warne, one of cricket's greatest ever spin bowlers. the australian star died of a suspected heart attack earlier this month, at the age of 52. our correspondent phil mercer reports this was a celebration of an extraordinary life. operatic singing. both on and off the cricket pitch, shane warne was an australian icon who elevated his sport and took showmanship to a new level. his family has struggled to cope with his sudden death. looking forward to a future without shane is inconceivable. but we do take comfort in knowing that shane packed more in his life of 52 years and five months and 19 days than most people would in two lifetimes. # i sit and wait # does an angel...#. there were powerful messages and musical performances, too, from famous friends. even though he played for australia and he dismantled england too many times,

everybody on the planet who has seen him play and experienced, i don't know, warney being warney, thinks he is one of us. with shane warne, scandal was never far away. he took money from illegal bookmakers, was banned for using prohibited drugs, and his private life delighted the tabloid newspapers. but, despite his flaws, he's remembered as a sporting genius. when he was in the team, australia believed they could beat anyone and he had so much gratitude for the era he played in as well. he often talked about how lucky he was to play with the legends that he did. he had so much passion for cricket and the history of cricket as well. shane warne said of himself, "i smoked, i drank, and i played a little cricket." phil mercer, bbc news,

at the melbourne cricket ground. the singer revealed his diagnosis in 2020 and underwent chemotherapy and radiotherapy. his bandmates described him as their brother and said he will always and forever be in their hearts. they were one of the most successful boy bands of the last decade. fans saw him as the joker of the group. with more energy than all of the others put together. i with more energy than all of the others put together.— with more energy than all of the others put together. i still cannot believe this _ others put together. i still cannot believe this is _ others put together. i still cannot believe this is my _ others put together. i still cannot believe this is my life. _ others put together. i still cannot believe this is my life. never - others put together. i still cannot believe this is my life. never one| believe this is my life. never one to let an opportunity _ believe this is my life. never one to let an opportunity slip -

believe this is my life. never one to let an opportunity slip past. i believe this is my life. never one | to let an opportunity slip past. i'm actuall in to let an opportunity slip past. i�*m actually in love with you, i really am. i think you are beautiful. sits next to me- _ am. i think you are beautiful. sits next to me. applause. as - am. i think you are beautiful. sits next to me. applause. as well. am. i think you are beautiful. sits next to me. applause. as well as| am. i think you are beautiful. sitsl next to me. applause. as well as a strin: of next to me. applause. as well as a string of hits _ next to me. applause. as well as a string of hits and _ next to me. applause. as well as a string of hits and millions - next to me. applause. as well as a string of hits and millions of - next to me. applause. as well as a string of hits and millions of fans i string of hits and millions of fans in the uk they also achieved huge success in the us. at their peak, meeting the then first lady, michelle obama at the white house. before calling it quits in 2014. we kind of before calling it quits in 2014. , kind of called it a day a little bit. last year it was just, five years, it was a hectic time so let's just put a pause on it and go and explore different options. millions of new fans _ explore different options. millions of new fans watched _ explore different options. millions of new fans watched him - explore different options. millions of new fans watched him reach i explore different options. millions| of new fans watched him reach the semifinals of celebrity masterchef. and in 2017, he returned to his musical roots in greece.-

and in 2017, he returned to his musical roots in greece. one, two, three, musical roots in greece. one, two, three. four- — musical roots in greece. one, two, three, four. because, _ musical roots in greece. one, two, three, four. because, at _ musical roots in greece. one, two, three, four. because, at heart, - musical roots in greece. one, two, three, four. because, at heart, all| three, four. because, at heart, all he ever wanted _ three, four. because, at heart, all he ever wanted to _ three, four. because, at heart, all he ever wanted to do _ three, four. because, at heart, all he ever wanted to do was - three, four. because, at heart, all| he ever wanted to do was entertain people through music. tom parker who has died at the age of 33. time for a look at the weather forecast before the news at six. here is ben. snow? who is getting snow? a few places, actually. and a few more might get some as we go through tonight. this picture came from a weather watcher in north yorkshire. some snow in places today and it certainly felt very different for those parts of the uk that had high—temperature yesterday. western areas particularly, 18 degrees yesterday.

some colder air and snow. that was the beautiful scene on the isle of skye earlier on. lots of wintry showers pushing in across northern scotland and this band of rain, sleet and snow drifting southwards. this is giving us a bit of a forecasting headache because as it moves south it looks as if much of it will be falling as rain but they could be sleet and snow mixing in ever higher ground and possibly even to some low levels. elsewhere further wintry showers and temperatures would drop a very cold night. down to —5 or six in some parts of scotland. isa will be a problem through tomorrow morning particularly for parts of scotland. through the day we will see wintry showers pushing in from the north—east becoming quite widespread into the rain and sleet at low levels. snow over high ground. a little bit of rain, sleet and snow, strong and gusty winds here as well.

gusts of 40—50 mph around some coasts in the south—east so with that strength of the wind, it is going to feel really chilly tomorrow afternoon. there will be further wintry showers to take us to thursday night so, again, ace could become an issue. temperature is widely dropping away. the blue colours extending across the charge, pretty much. even in towns and cities we will be down in freezing. some spots of northern scotland may be down to —7 to start friday morning. friday brings more of the same. not quite as windy. sunshine and wintry showers. an area of general rain, sleet and snow. temperatures may be nudging up a little bit. still quite disappointing for this time of year. things will turn a little bit less cold. temperatures climbing just a little through saturday and into sunday. some showers are bad but dry weather as well. a few are looking for some milder conditions next week

should bring the return of some mild airfrom the should bring the return of some mild air from the atlantic. you lose the northerly winds. we gain more of a westerly wind but with that, it could well turn quite unsettled weather vane at times but in the short—term, some cold weather and some snow on the way for some.

catastrophic failures in maternity care at an nhs trust led to hundreds of babies dying or being left with life—changing injuries, a review has found. over 200 babies and nine mothers died when they should have been cared for by shrewsbury and telford nhs trust. the review into the failings was triggered cared for by shrewsbury and telford nhs trust. the review into the failings was triggered by a campaign by two families — who both lost baby girls. this is bittersweet, that we are missing daughters that should be with us today because their avoidable deaths were exactly that, avoidable, and we were lied to all the way through. the health secretary apologised to the families for the "unimaginable trauma" they'd suffered — and promised changes at a local and national level. also on the programme. russia says it will focus its assault on ukraine on the east of the country —

more evidence today of the destruction being caused.