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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. russian soldiers have been accused of slaughtering civilians after ukraine says it has discovered mass graves in areas recently abandoned by russian forces. president biden says vladimir putin should be tried for war crimes. we have to get all the detail so we can have a war crimes trial. this guy is brutal. president zelensky visits the town of bucha — where he said the killings amount to genocide. the bbc hears first hand accounts — of civilians being killed. they were in jeeps, they were injeeps, with guns, they killed _ they were injeeps, with guns, they killed him _ they were injeeps, with guns, they killed him and fled. can —— how can
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i killed him and fled. can —— how can llalk to such — killed him and fled. can —— how can i talk to such morons? i want them dead, _ i talk to such morons? i want them dead. i_ i talk to such morons? i want them dead. iwant— i talk to such morons? i want them dead, i want their children to lie dead _ dead, i want their children to lie dead like — dead, i want their children to lie dead like my son. and a new un report calls for an urgent reduction in carbon emissions, as the secretary general accuses governments and businesses of lying about their efforts to reduce climate change. we've seen widespread condemnation as evidence has emerged appearing to show russian atrocities in ukraine. corpses have been found in the streets of bucha and nearby irpin — both towns are close to capital, kyiv. both have recently been abandoned by russian forces. president biden has calling for vladimir putin to be tried for war crimes. you may remember, i got criticised for calling vladimir putin a war criminal. but the truth of the matter is this war, he is a war criminal. and we have to gather the information, we have to continue to provide ukraine with weapons
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they need to continue the fight and we have to gather all the detail so this, we'll actually have a war crime trial. this guy is brutal and what is happening in bucha is outrageous and everyone has seen it. i think it is a war crime. and while president biden reacts from afar... president zelensky has visited bucha and spoke to the bbc. you can see around what was done to this modern town. that is the characteristic of russian soldiers that treat people worse than animals. that is real genocide which you have seen here today, which you can see what happened when thousands of people that were tortured and killed and cut off hands and legs, extremities and what
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they did to the women. and i would say that the longer the russian federation will drag out the process, the worse will be for them and in principle, for the situation for this war because with every day, when our army is moving and to the territory, you can see what is happening. it is very difficult to talk when you see what they have done here. and as ukraine takes back territory — more horrific stories emerge. this woman's son was was killed by russian soldiers close to kyiv. she spoke to the bbc�*sjeremy bowen. she wanted to talk about the 10th of march, the day the russians killed her only son. the two lived here just 500 metres from his job
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changing tyres at a garage. she led the way to her son's bedroom, damaged after shelling. we were the first outsiders she had seen since the russians left on friday, and the story of her son's death spelt out. translation: the pain is so bad. now i am all alone. my son was young, 27 years old. he wanted to stay alive. let's speak to anna foster who is life from living. all of these details coming out close to the capital raising a number of questions. explain to us why the russians had pulled back from these positions with a 42 or was it pre—emptive? positions with a 42 or was it pre-emptive?_ positions with a 42 or was it pre-emptive? positions with a 42 or was it re-em tive? ~ . , ., , pre-emptive? well, that is a very good question- — pre-emptive? well, that is a very good question. i _ pre-emptive? well, that is a very good question. i think— pre-emptive? well, that is a very good question. i think both - pre-emptive? well, that is a very good question. i think both sides| good question. i think both sides will give you a different answer but
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if we look at the facts of what has happened here, what russia, we believe, hoped to achieve and what they actually did achieve a very different. we saw those mass troops on the borders for weeks and weeks, we saw those convoys moving towards the capital kyiv, but after peace talks, russia said they would pull back from some of those areas around kyiv. military analysts are united in saying that the russian advance in saying that the russian advance in those areas was a failure and thatis in those areas was a failure and that is why they pulled back from these areas, they met unexpectedly fierce and effective ukrainian resistance. but president zelensky has said more than once that he believes this is not a withdrawal of russian forces from the area around kyiv, it is not a refocus and are regrouping, and as those troops pull away and we see those horrific scenes and hear those heartbreaking stories, those trips are not going, they are not leaving, there is every chance they will move to the
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frontiers of this country that russia now wants to concentrate on, places like the east and the south. this war is far from over. even places like the east and the south. this war is farfrom over. even if we do see what looks like this retreat happening in areas like kyiv. retreat happening in areas like k iv. �* ., ., ., ~ kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how — kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it _ kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it has _ kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it has come _ kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it has come a _ kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it has come a key - kyiv. and the two, we have talked about how it has come a key partl kyiv. and the two, we have talked | about how it has come a key part of the refugee crisis, many people fleeing the areas of ukraine and heading to lviv and further outside of the country, what is the latest on that element of the crisis? i of the country, what is the latest on that element of the crisis? i was at the station _ on that element of the crisis? i was at the station here _ on that element of the crisis? i was at the station here in _ on that element of the crisis? i was at the station here in lviv _ at the station here in lviv yesterday and you will remember in the early days of the war, you remember those scenes, crowds and crowds of people on the platform at the train station who couldn't get on trains out of the country, people as far as you can see, and actually they are still arriving. the numbers are not the same, the crowds at the same but there is still a steady stream of people coming up through the doors when i was there yesterday
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there were families with children, laden suitcases, people carrying pets and their pet carriers. they were lining up and being taken on buses to a new place, new life. what we are seeing now is that in the early days, a lot of it was people fearing what was about to come, they were fleeing because they knew this well the starting and i wanted to get away. the people that we are seeing now are people who have not been able to leave just yet. i met yesterday to station a man from bucha who told me he had managed to get out of that city and he talked about the images they had seen and how it broke his heart to see those pictures. i talked to a man from kharkiv which is on the front line of the fighting and in fact when we think about that, and you mentioned, what may still beat yet to be revealed, we have only seen places like bucha and irpin, he says in
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kharkiv, you only see parts of bodies, heads, arms, legs, and it is a reminder that there is so much fighting happening in the east, in the south of ukraine, and there is still much more that we don't know about what is going on and what may be revealed in the weeks and months to come. �* . , to come. bearing in mind everything ou are to come. bearing in mind everything you are saying. _ to come. bearing in mind everything you are saying. l _ to come. bearing in mind everything you are saying, i must _ to come. bearing in mind everything you are saying, i must ask _ to come. bearing in mind everything you are saying, i must ask you, - you are saying, i must ask you, those talks being brokered by turkey between ukraine and russia, i assume there has been no particular progress at the beginning of this week? ., . , progress at the beginning of this week? ., ., , ., , week? you are right. they are still nominally continuing, _ week? you are right. they are still nominally continuing, they - week? you are right. they are still nominally continuing, they are - nominally continuing, they are happening in an online format and what we are led to believe if they are talking through the final details of some of the proposals that ukraine put forward, things you have explored here in the programme, things like neutrality, a potential referendum of what ukraine might look like in the future but i think until there are face—to—face talks happening, we had the first round in
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belarus, which is a russian ally, not a great deal achieved there, those talks in istanbul, there was a brief flurry afterwards, it looked like progress may have been made but within 24 to 48 and was, all parties were saying they hadn't really made forward. everybody is waiting and watching to see whether they will be more face—to—face talks, whether indeed president putin and resident zelensky will talk directly. every now and then there is a little hint, little rumour that that might come but i think at this stage, it might be surprising, particular given what we have seen in bucha and given the mood around what is happening across the world when you see that reaction, but that is something that people, every now and then, would talk about, that would be a breakthrough. at the moment, neck set are face—to—face talks between the ukrainian and russian negotiators, which they are not pencilled in, we don't know when they might happen.— pencilled in, we don't know when
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they might happen. thank you, anna. let's turn back— they might happen. thank you, anna. let's turn back to _ they might happen. thank you, anna. let's turn back to the _ they might happen. thank you, anna. let's turn back to the allegations - let's turn back to the allegations of war crimes, these rules are laid out in a series of treaties pulled the geneva convention. so are we seeing war crimes in ukraine? michael newton specialised in war crimes analysis at the us state department. i apologise, we were hoping to play that clip but it doesn't seem to have played as normal. 50 that clip but it doesn't seem to have played as normal.- that clip but it doesn't seem to have played as normal. so we will continue to _ have played as normal. so we will continue to talk— have played as normal. so we will continue to talk about _ have played as normal. so we will continue to talk about the - have played as normal. so we will continue to talk about the us. - the us says it will ask the un general assembly to suspend russia from the human rights council.
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its ambassador to the un says: a two—thirds majority vote by the un general assembly can suspend a state from the human rights council. the us says the vote will happen this week. the international condemnation continues. we've just heard france and germany are expelling more russian diplomats. we've already heard from joe biden — next this is the uk foreign secretary, speaking after meeting with her ukrainian counterpart. it is irresponsibility of the uk and our allies and that is what we have discussed today, to step up our support for our brave ukrainian friends. that means more weapons, and more sanctions. putin must lose
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in ukraine. later this week, the g7 foreign ministers and the nato foreign ministers and the nato foreign ministers and the nato foreign ministers will meet. we need to announce a tough new wave of sanctions. the reality is that money is still flowing from the west into putin's war machine and that has to stop. now we've been watching for comment from china and india — both major trading partners and at times allies of russia. nothing on these recent discoveries. but israel has commented — this is particularly worthy of note as it had sough to be an intermediary between russia and ukraine. the israeli foreign minister tweeted: many of the strongest words though have come from eu leaders. here's poland s prime minister. the crime of genocide must be judged properly, documented, and judged, and therefore we propose to appoint
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and therefore we propose to appoint an international commission to investigate this crime, the crime of genocide in the cities in ukraine. leaders in brussels also want to see an investigation. european commission president ursula von der leyen said: and the president of the european council has written: what happened in bucha demands a new round of sanctions and very clear measures against russia so we will coordinate with our european partners. i would like us to have a new round of sanctions and to act on coal and oil in particular which we know would be particular painful for them. president macron referred there to coal and oil in particular. he did not refer to russian gas — which accounts for about 40% of the eu's natural gas imports.
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earlier this month brussels laid out a strategy to reduce reliance on russia — but there's now pressure to do still more. on saturday, lithuania announced it had stopped imports of russian gas. the president tweeted: germany, which relies heavily on russian gas, says it won't be able to act immediately. here's its economy minister. we are working every day to create the conditions and steps for an embargo. the federal government and i are convinced that this is the right way, and it is also the way that harms putin on a daily basis. in this sense, we are on the right track and we will continue to move in this direction. a new un report says it's now or never to avoid disastrous climate change — and that we need to drastically change the way we live. this is one of the authors of the report.
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we are currently on track for warming more than 2 degrees, never mind 1.5 degrees, given that emissions are continuing to rise but what we are trying not to do is send a message of despair about this because what we are doing in the report is identifying positive signs, both in terms of technical change and also the fact that we have all the tools out there if we actually want to make a difference and change course. there are policies that are proven, there are technologies available and if people work together, policymakers, business, we had in our ability to turn things round. this report says to limit global warming to within1.5 degrees celsius — various things need to happen.
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we would need to use about 95% of less coal as well as 60% of less oil and 45% of less gas by 2050. this will be helped by renewable energies like solar and wind becoming cheaper — over the past decade their costs have fallen by around 85%. the un says changes in lifestyle can lead to 40 to 70% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. the report addresses how carbon dioxide can be removed from the atmosphere. this can be done through various ways like planting more trees. and there is even technology called carbon capture where this process can be industrialised — in theory. but there are major doubts about whether removing carbon can make the difference. this british scientist has written a book on the history of the climate crisis.
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it is incredibly expensive and even if we had the most optimistic approach to how fast this will improve, i think a lot of people concentrate on the upside of the technologies nathan, oh, i can still fly around in a plane and still run oil. it doesn't mean that. lets it with the secretary—general said. the verdict is damning. the report of the panel on climate change is a litany of broken climate promises. it is a file of shame, cataloguing the empty pledges that put us firmly on track to an unlivable world. we are on a fast track to climate disaster. there is an urgency here we haven't seen before. it was unusual in
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speech we just heard there. he accused governments and corporations are flying, he said you will make these promises and say you will change what you do but you don't do it, there is a way to describe that, it, there is a way to describe that, it is lying. tough talk from the head of the un. the un is trying to grab the world by the shoulders and shake the world and say, listen, don't you get it? time is running out. in a sense, what else can the un do? it can advise, it can research the science, it can present it to government, but it can't. meant to act. but the way that these reports work, the scientists go out, they find the evidence, they put together this menu, this recipe, if you like, of how we can address the challenge of climate change, and then the governments come together and read it and they agree summary. in the governments of the well sign up in the governments of the well sign up to that summary, and that is what has happened today. the approved document has been released today. in a world in which it is very hard to
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see the spirit of cooperation, at work in the world, we see the governments of the world, all the world, ukraine, russia, alongside saudi arabia, india, north korea, i think, everybody has signed it, and they had said, look, we recognise what you are saying, we recognise that this is the problem, these are the ways we need to solve it. and the ways we need to solve it. and the question now is will the world act on that? in the heart of this, there is a kind of agreement around what needs to happen, and in a sense, that is positive. you mention ukraine and — sense, that is positive. you mention ukraine and russia, _ sense, that is positive. you mention ukraine and russia, dusting, - sense, that is positive. you mention ukraine and russia, dusting, i - sense, that is positive. you mention ukraine and russia, dusting, i am . ukraine and russia, dusting, iam sure lots of people want to hear from you and how the conflict in ukraine fits in and to look at leisure is about balakjames weatherup —— climate change. leisure is about balakjames weatherup -- climate change. people are very anxious _ weatherup -- climate change. people are very anxious about _ weatherup -- climate change. people are very anxious about the _ weatherup -- climate change. people are very anxious about the degree - weatherup -- climate change. people are very anxious about the degree of. are very anxious about the degree of dependence on russia. it has made people think very hard about that, it has also pushed up the price of
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fossil fuels and that encourages investment because companies think, you know, there is good future revenues on this. it is very hard to say the effect this will have. in europe, i think we will see countries move away from gas supplies from russia and that in the short term might mean more coal but in the longer term it is like to mean a switch to more renewable technologies, more wind and solar, for example. elsewhere it may mean somewhere else. if you zoom out and see what the un is talking about, in terms of climate change today, that is amongst cash much bigger longer—term issue, this is about the future of the planet but all of us may say that regardless of what is happening in ukraine, this is something else, this is another urgent problem we need to address and a problem that we will all, our children, our grandchildren, you know, the future, generations of humanity stretching into the distance, we will all have to deal with a complex of what happens now. another thought i would like to bring is that we will be judged by
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ourfuture generations bring is that we will be judged by our future generations and what we do now and that is another theme that the un has been emphasising. ladle that the un has been emphasising. we know from the report, there is buzz but it is on all of us, as well as countries, with the un saying changes of behaviour could reduce greenhouse gases by 40 to 70%, so what other things people could change to have that kind of impact? you need to think about everything you do that involves carbon emissions which is virtually everything you do. how much you want to travel abroad and how much do you to travel abroad and how much do you to do it? are there more carbon efficient ways to travel? do you really need to eat as much red meat as you do, as much dairy? maybe you could reduce it and make your diet more healthy. how do you heat your home? do you need gas? could you switch to an electric heat pump which is lower carbon. it is to give
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out everything we do. we talk a lot about governments and i said governments signing up to this report, must play one role, there are corporations, and all of us as well, we all need to act together on this. the government is going ahead with plans to privatise channel 4 — after 40 years in public ownership. our political correspondent david wallace lockhart told me more about why this is happening. channel 4 is publicly owned, it is funded through advertising commissions, a lot of its content is from independent production companies but the government had made it clearfor some companies but the government had made it clear for some time that it has been thinking about selling off the channel, privatising it, it is something it consulted on, ministers had spoken about it being too constrained amongst the streaming giants and believing this would help
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with that. an e—mail went out from the ceo of canon for two staff this evening to say that proposals the channel had been rejected and we got confirmation from the government that they are now planning to sell off the channel, that is something that will feature in the queen's speech during may, that we don't know the exact timescale for how this will happen or who of course will be buying the channel. a government source said ministers believe that public ownership is holding the channel back, that in the face of a rapidly changing and competitive media landscape, removing what they consider to be the straitjacket of public ownership will help the channel go forward. they also said the money the government gets from selling off the channel will be part of the creative dividend that they will use in what they call levelling up the media landscape, of course, levelling up, one of the government's key policies
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to bring forward places they feel are being left behind across the uk, so that feeding into the larger government agenda. the channel will remain a public service broadcaster, it will, the government says, have a commitment to prime time news like it does at the moment but there certainly will be people who worry about what this will mean for the future of the channel, the future of channel 4, future of the channel, the future of channel4, if future of the channel, the future of channel 4, if it is going into private hands.— channel 4, if it is going into private hands. channel 4, if it is going into rivate hands. , , private hands. evidently, the people at the to- private hands. evidently, the people at the top of — private hands. evidently, the people at the top of channel _ private hands. evidently, the people at the top of channel 4 _ private hands. evidently, the people at the top of channel 4 are - private hands. evidently, the people at the top of channel 4 are not - at the top of channel 4 are not persuaded because they have been trying to stop this. the persuaded because they have been trying to stop this.— trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 _ trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 did _ trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 did say _ trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 did say in _ trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 did say in his - trying to stop this. the boss of channel 4 did say in his e-mail trying to stop this. the boss of i channel 4 did say in his e-mail to channel 4 did say in his e—mail to staff that the broadcaster had put forward proposals to stay public, that was essentially what they wanted to do, there will be concerns about what this means channel 4 as a broadcasterfrom people about what this means channel 4 as a broadcaster from people involved about what this means channel 4 as a broadcasterfrom people involved in the channel, from supporters of channel, because of course from being part of a public service broadcaster, does come with certain onusis broadcaster, does come with certain onus is on channel 4 to commission
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certain amount of content, that appeals to a younger audience, content commissioned from across the uk, and that is something that being in the public sector enables it to do. not necessarily becoming private means all that will go but for a lot of people who enjoyed channel for content, perhaps they feel some channel for content wouldn't be made by a private broadcaster who feel there is streaming giants feel they don't reflect the diversity. there will be concerns in those quarters about what going private will mean. a quick reminder, you can get more analysis from me and the outside source team via my twitter account. you can follow and you can find videos on the busy website. that is it for this half an
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hour. thank you for watching. hello. after a chilly weekend, monday brought us a much milder day. atlantic air flooding into the uk, bringing plenty of cloud, though, and some rain along with it. through the week ahead, we are going to see things brightening up but turning colder yet again. at the moment, though, thanks to atlantic air being fed up from the south around this area of high pressure, overnight monday into tuesday, it will be very mild for much of the uk with overnight lows in double figures. to the far northeast, though, we do still have the arctic air sitting across northern scotland. and as we see weather fronts meeting that cold air, through tuesday into wednesday, we could see some pretty significant snowfall across northern scotland. look at the temperatures, though, elsewhere overnight, we are seeing double figures for england, wales and northern ireland.
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a frosty start across scotland and then snow really from the get—go across the highlands and the grampians, and it will snow here on and off for much of the day. also some snow, though, at lower levels too across the east and scotland, but for some of the highest ground, we could be looking it up to 20 cm of snow fall by the time we get into wednesday. further south across scotland, some quite heavy and persistent rain. wetter for the afternoon in northern ireland. england and wales brighter than monday and somewhat warmer as well, could be up to 15 degrees. tuesday into wednesday, this low pressure centre works its way eastwards across the uk. we start to pull in colder air behind it. it won't be a massive plunge on wednesday, but it will start to feel cooler for all. but what we will see on wednesday, some sunshine and showers for the majority. some heavy, thundery rain, some quite strong winds whipping those showers through, gales across the northern half of the uk and still some snow adding to those totals across northern most scotland. you can see the temperatures down by two or three degrees typically on wednesday.
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it's wednesday into thursday, though, the big plunge of arctic air really sinks in. we pick up northerly winds for the last two days of the week. for thursday, at the moment, the story looks relatively straightforward with this front staying away to the south. a bright day for many, cold, yes, wintry showers for northern and eastern scotland and across northern england, potentially temperatures still just about in double figures for the south, but feeling colder in the wind. friday, a bit of a headache for us at the moment. we are watching this closely. will this front bump into the cold air enough to bring some snow fall further south? stay tuned.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. russian soldiers have been accused of slaughtering civilians after ukraine says it has discovered mass graves in areas recently abandoned by russian forces. president biden says vladimir putin should be tried for war crimes they are gathering all the details so we can have a war crime trail. this guy is brutal. president zelensky visits the town of boocha — where he said the killings amount to genocide. the bbc hears first hand accounts — of civilians being killed. they were in jeeps with guns and they killed him and fled.
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how can i talk to such morons? i want them dead. i want their children to lie like my son will and a new un report calls for an urgent reduction in carbon emissions, as the secretary general accuses governments and businesses of lying about their efforts to reduce climate change. the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelensky, has visited the town of bucha near kyiv where evidence has emerged of russian troops killing civilians. he once again accused russia of war crimes. russia is claims it has nothing to do with the civilian deaths that have happened. our correspondent yogita limaye has been travelling with the ukrainian president and reports from bucha. the place where ukraine push back against russia is most clearly visible.
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this streetjust outside of kyiv lined with blown up tanks and armoured vehicles. today, ukraine president zelensky visited the town drawing attention to the brutality that unfolded here. i believe these are definitely war crimes. i believe it's genocide in its purest sense because children have been killed, women raped, and civilians killed he said. through the day we saw evidence of deliberate murders of civilians. in the village a shallow grave found in the woods. four bodies can be seen buried here but officials tell us there could be more. three have been identified. a 51—year—old woman, her husband and her son who was 25.
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she was the head of the village. they lived in this house. officials believed they were killed by russian villages on suspicion of helping ukraine's army. in a building, five men were found. hands bound behind their backs, some shot in the head, some in the chest. we are still discovering dead bodies here, the horror of what unfolded coming to life now. but there are still areas of this country under russian control and no one quite knows what's going on there. it is still possible to talk peace with russia, we asked president zelensky. "ukraine deserves peace, we cannot live with war. everyday our army is fighting but we don't want the lives of millions to be lost," he said. "that's why dialogue is necessary."
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let's cross live to the united nations — where russia's ambassador to the un, vassily nebenzia, is giving a press conference and shifting the focus away from it publication. to usurp the its own discretion and our agenda i attempted to mow his briefing. we have yet another illustration of their behaviour. i would like to recall the procedures of the security council. it's explicit that the president should call for a meeting at the request of any member of the security council. what we see now is a shameful and unprecedented abuse by the uk of the president priorities and at the same time this is a demonstration or weakness
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showing that the delegations resorted to this manoeuvring to try to shut the russians and it only proves the points that the russian delegations... abusive, condescending, a distinct line of the uk presidency is undermining the foundation of the un and the presidency is interested with hr tech to lead the security council. the uk failed to leave and it was a disgrace for diplomacy and undeniable stain on interpretation given negligence of the uk presidency we decided to shed light on the publication of kyiv regime and i would like to present you said the real facts about bucha. during the real facts about bucha. during the time detail has been under the control of the russian armed not a
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single local resident has suffered from any violent action. for as long as the town was under the control of the russian armed forces locals were moving freely around the town and using cell phones so they could post in social media any photo and video and any harassment if this was the case. howeverthat and any harassment if this was the case. however that did not happen. let me interested in development in chronological order. following another round of talks the russian minister of defence announced their forces from a number of regions including butcher and that fact was confirmed the next day by the mayor of bucha in his video on march 31 presented russian forces as a victory of ukrainian army.
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interestingly he had not mentioned any mass atrocities are dead bodies are killings or grades or anything like that. it's hard to imagine the city can forget that address such a devastating scenario. let me show you the video posted. as you will see he looks happy and smiling. it's hard to imagine that he's acting like this against the backdrop of a massacre in the streets. so these are videos being shown by the russians at a press conference because we don't know what videos they're going to play i don't want to risk something being shown that's either completely inaccurate or too
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graphic for you to see for it to be appropriate for us to broadcast so we will continue to watch that video and check what's being said but we are not going to think that life. in the meantime it's worth sifting through what the russians have been saying in this press conference. they say the whole thing is a state publication and they offered no evidence to back that up and they say it was a western backed publication and they offered no evidence to back that up and they are accusing the uk, unprecedented abuse its role for this month of being president of the un security council because of its decision to not allow the russians to bring this up not allow the russians to bring this up in the security council today which is why the press conference is happening instead. let's continue to listen to rush and's ambassador to the un. has listen to rush and's ambassador to the un. �* , listen to rush and's ambassador to the un. a listen to rush and's ambassador to theun. a , a ., the un. as you can see he's also smiling- he _ the un. as you can see he's also smiling. he isjoyful_ the un. as you can see he's also smiling. he is joyful in _ the un. as you can see he's also smiling. he is joyful in his- the un. as you can see he's also| smiling. he is joyful in his reports smiling. he isjoyful in his reports he mentions no dead bodies, not a single reference.
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so again, we are not sure what the russians are showing here but it's worth reiterating that they are saying that a single resident has suffered in bucha because of russian activity but locals have been able to move freely while the russians control the town and he said people in the town would have been able to post footage. remember the bbc and new york times and a number of other media organisations have checked out the footage that have emerged from bucha in recent days and found for example that there is a great deal of evidence the bodies in the streets would have been there for a great number of days. certainly more than a few days and would have been there since the russians were in control. this is the russians trying to push back the evidence that's been found but without offering any
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particular evidence to back up their claims that this is being staged by the ukrainians at the help of christ. —— the west. let's speak now to shayan sardar—izadeh — a bbcjournalist investigating online disinformation and has been looking into this. so far he has been talking about the uk basically in his words and using its role as head of security council for this month and not allowing the session to go ahead. i cannot address those statements but he also mentioned wanting that we had already checked which he said the russian forces had left bucha on the 30th of march which is what the russians seem to say it was on the sist russians seem to say it was on the 31st of march and he said in the first two days videos were posted by the mayor of bucha and he looks happy and he does not look like you seen any dead bodies. obviously
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those videos probably we would have to investigate and i seem to be and he mentioned. it would probably be posted in the immediate aftermath of the russian retreat from the town does not mean in i noticed in a couple of those videos he paid it was in the area that we were talking about earlier. the was in the area that we were talking about earlier-— about earlier. the ambassador has started to talk _ about earlier. the ambassador has started to talk again _ about earlier. the ambassador has started to talk again and _ about earlier. the ambassador has started to talk again and he - about earlier. the ambassador has started to talk again and he camel started to talk again and he came back off the latest video. let's listen to him. it back off the latest video. let's listen to him.— listen to him. it is full of discrepancies _ listen to him. it is full of discrepancies and - listen to him. it is full of| discrepancies and blatant listen to him. it is full of - discrepancies and blatant lies. according to its services the bodies were lying — according to its services the bodies were lying on the streets for at least _ were lying on the streets for at least four— were lying on the streets for at least four days by the time to deal was doomed. however the bodies are not stiffened, how is that possible? it's not stiffened, how is that possible? it's against — not stiffened, how is that possible? it's against the law of biology. the bodies _ it's against the law of biology. the bodies do — it's against the law of biology. the bodies do not have signs of decomposition known to forensic experts — decomposition known to forensic experts including cadaverous stains. the wounds — experts including cadaverous stains. the wounds contained no blood and another _ the wounds contained no blood and another point illustrating that the spirit _ another point illustrating that the spirit speak. i
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another point illustrating that the spirit speak-— spirit speak. i would interrupt aaain. spirit speak. i would interrupt again- this — spirit speak. i would interrupt again. this is _ spirit speak. i would interrupt again. this is a _ spirit speak. i would interrupt again. this is a difficult - spirit speak. i would interrupt again. this is a difficult thing | spirit speak. i would interrupt l again. this is a difficult thing to judge but i hope you can understand why i'm interrupting. the russian ambassador saying a lot of things which aren't true and we need to make sure they're not passing without checks. he look at this issue of rigor mortis and what he is saying there's not match with what we found? ., v saying there's not match with what we found? . �*, . ., , we found? that's the claim be investigated _ we found? that's the claim be investigated earlier _ we found? that's the claim be investigated earlier and - we found? that's the claim be investigated earlier and the i we found? that's the claim be - investigated earlier and the bodies had been there for 46 days so i haven't they stiffened? and this is the process of rigor mortis that happens when somebody dies and he spoke to forensic experts and he explained to us he told us may be for the many that process was started so the evidence is probably because bodies had been there for more than four days already. so that cream does not match up with the evidence from that expert.- cream does not match up with the evidence from that expert. which is also backed — evidence from that expert. which is also backed up _ evidence from that expert. which is also backed up by — evidence from that expert. which is also backed up by a _ evidence from that expert. which is also backed up by a recent - evidence from that expert. which is also backed up by a recent new- evidence from that expert. which is | also backed up by a recent new york times investigation just published where they looked at satellite images which show bodies for more
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than four days. let's go back to the press conference. it than four days. let's go back to the press conference.— than four days. let's go back to the press conference. it leaves you with the video circulated _ press conference. it leaves you with the video circulated is _ press conference. it leaves you with the video circulated is a _ press conference. it leaves you with the video circulated is a crude - the video circulated is a crude forgery. it does not spend any scrutiny however some stimulators for example the french president and the british foreign minister have already lined up to promote this false narrative. what happened in buchais false narrative. what happened in bucha is a false attack by the kyiv regime. the possible goal of this publication is horrifying and brings back and nightmares of their nazi crimes in the second world war. volodymyr zelensky once he arrived in bucha hinted that this incident justifies any uncivilised response. by justifies any uncivilised response. by this basically he confirms that
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kyiv considers genocide and now the... executing them we want the world to stay alert and recall on the council not to let this horrific cleansing tapping. to conclude i would like to reiterate that the russian military forces held in strict compliance with humanitarian law and do not... if we went as —— pursuing aggressive rules like those of the us—led coalition for scanning of the us—led coalition for scanning of losses and devastation would be worse like they were bombed by the us —— is killing thousands of civilians including women and children whose buddies were left unburied for weeks and even months. i think they were here from me tomorrow because my information is coming and i think the truth and
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what happened in bucha will reveal itself very soon.— itself very soon. there is the russian ambassador - itself very soon. there is the russian ambassador to - itself very soon. there is the russian ambassador to the l itself very soon. there is the l russian ambassador to the un revealing what happened in bucha will reveal itself very long. it does not match with the russians are seeing. at the moment they're not just causing a war in ukraine there also undergoing a war on available evidence as well. let me go through some of the things the ambassador said. he called the footage of bodies in the street. he says it's a crude forgery and a false narrative and a false flag attack by which he means this was not an attack carried out by the russians but this has been faked by the ukrainians at their western backers and he said this brings back nightmares of the nazis crimes so he's alleging and this is a frequent message from the russians that in some ways the behaviour of the ukrainian
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government mayor nazi crimes from the past. there is no evidence to suggest that if the case and he said president zelensky appears to be saying genocide is a justifiable method of warfare. there is nothing that president zelensky said that matches that description and he said the world must watch for a cleansing of traders suggesting the ukrainian government is now in the business of killing people who oppose it or its narrative around the war. again there is no evidence of that. let's go back to the press conference and hear him answer some questions. i am hear him answer some questions. i am sa in: es hear him answer some questions. i am saying yes to — hear him answer some questions. i am saying yes to what _ hear him answer some questions. i —n saying yes to what you are seeing. this is unprecedented and this will not facilitate or encourage or be helpful to what is happening between russian and ukrainian peace talks.
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thank you very much mr ambassador. on the other side the ukrainians have presented footage of people, ukrainians who have said that their loved ones have been killed by russian troops. civilians are not doing anything and also the footage that's been shown. we have seen a little bit that you shown but do you consider the statements of these women and family members who have watched their own loved ones being
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killed by russian troops or fake? this is a warfare and in warfare anything happens and you cannot exclude that civilians are dying in the war and a fact of life. but the footage that is being presented in particular in bucha in which i spoke does not give us any doubt that was a stage and we will present more evidence of that tomorrow when we speak in the security council. i speak in the security council. i would like to ask you one follow—up question. the ukrainian prosecutor general today told ukrainian television that the situation in a
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town may be worse than the bucha in terms of people who have been found killed. that town was also occupied by russian forces until recently. do you know anything about that? haifa. by russian forces until recently. do you know anything about that? now, i 'ust hearin: you know anything about that? now, i just hearing from _ you know anything about that? now, i just hearing from you _ you know anything about that? now, i just hearing from you as _ you know anything about that? now, i just hearing from you as you - you know anything about that? now, i just hearing from you as you speak. i just hearing from you as you speak. thank you ambassador for the briefing. my question is about bucha. there are pictures and as eyewitness evidence, what are you saying about how this happened and
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you did show us pictures of two pregnant women who were fake photos and we saw one of them give birth and we saw one of them give birth and lease the other ones i, why do you believe that the pictures and the story you're getting right now containing us are true about bucha? i saw footage today on the russian television of the lady that gave birth to a —— mariupol and she admitted that was a fake. she is a ukrainian blogger named marianna, i forgot her surname and she admitted that was a fake. i forgot her surname and she admitted that was a fake.— that was a fake. i will come away from this again _ that was a fake. i will come away from this again because - that was a fake. i will come away from this again because it's - from this again because it's difficult to keep up with a number of things that the russian ambassador to the un is saying that are not true and we cannot let these things pass about again pointing out what's being said is not true. it's interesting to hear the ambassador
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talk about a war of christ vladimir putin has been calling this a special operation and russia has restrictions of russian being able to present this as war. but they decided that's the correct word and it is very much. here is my colleague who has been the key in the what happened and listening in the what happened and listening in the air what's being said. the russians are creating a parallel universe here without offering any evidence to back up my meeting where everyone is seeing is correct? it’s everyone is seeing is correct? it's interesting _ everyone is seeing is correct? it�*s interesting that zelensky right there which is what we discussed an hour ago and it does that —— here's faked by the ukrainians? it's important to say we do not know it i% --100% how important to say we do not know it 1% —— 100% how those people and civilians died and it next eight weeks i had news organisations like the bbc and human rights
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organisations were a by adults what exactly happened. but the idea that the people are not dead and somebody is acting on the street as they are dead and all of the estate by the ukrainians does not match the evidence that have seen in the last password three days please check to cyprus on cne check with people and the new york times mentioned at the last few minutes has published an investigation and got satellite images from the exact same road on that which is aware russian officials yesterday when posting clips saying those that bodies were fake and they were staged and import images from march 19 so that's weeks ago and as parties we saw in those figures are there so the idea that because the russians are claiming or after the russians are treated on the 30th of march in the next two
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fda's guardian and staged a seeing part of the stake activities on the streets playing on the streets acting as if they were dead or they been killed so that's creepy for not his article is on the bbc news upset if you want to see what happened in the the ukrainian capital and kyiv. i can see mary watching us on the bbc news channel saying have to listen to listen to russian misinformation lies? if a reasonable question as you and have been interrupting throughout this press conference to try to correct the things the russian ambassador is saying which is not true. it is important for us to understand russia's justification if that is the correct word for what actions it's carried out in ukraine however it's carried out in ukraine however it's also important to pick up the things that aren't true and to explain that. i hope we are getting
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the balance right. to go to some of the balance right. to go to some of the things in the last half—hour this is a stark press conference they are hearing from the russians inside the united nations and they are seeing what we have seen in bucha and elsewhere is a crude forgery and they offered no evidence to back it up. they say the evidence has been presented by the ukrainians accept a false flag attack and in other words the whole thing is a forgery created by the ukrainians and their western supporters. no evidence was offered to back up that claim. they said we are witnessing a nightmare of nafta crimes without any offering any evidence that anyone described himself as a nazi orany anyone described himself as a nazi or any evidence that the ukrainians were involved in planning their own civilians. and they wind the world to watch out for ukrainian authorities cleansing traders and again they offer no evidence that is happening. that's what the russians have been saying at the un in new york. for more updates you can find
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that on the bbc�*s website and we will see you tomorrow at the usual time. hello. after a chilly weekend, monday brought us a much milder day. atlantic air flooding into the uk, bringing plenty of cloud, though, and some rain along with it. through the week ahead, we are going to see things brightening up but turning colder yet again. at the moment, though, thanks to atlantic air being fed up from the south around this area of high pressure, overnight monday into tuesday, it will be very mild for much of the uk with overnight lows in double figures. to the far northeast, though, we do still have the arctic air sitting across northern scotland. and as we see weather fronts meeting that cold air, through tuesday into wednesday, we could see some pretty significant snowfall across northern scotland. look at the temperatures, though, elsewhere overnight, we are seeing double figures for england, wales and northern ireland. a fosty start across scotland and then snow really from the get—go across the highlands
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and the grampians, and it will snow here on and off for much of the day. also some snow, though, at lower levels too across the east and scotland, but for some of the highest ground, we could be looking it up to 20 cm of snow fall by the time we get into wednesday. further south across scotland, some quite heavy and persistent rain. wetter for the afternoon in northern ireland. england and wales brighter than monday and somewhat warmer as well, could be up to 15 degrees. tuesday into wednesday, this low pressure centre works its way eastwards across the uk. we start to pull in colder air behind it. it won't be a massive plunge on wednesday, but it will start to feel cooler for all. but what we will see on wednesday, some sunshine and showers for the majority. some heavy, thundery rain, some quite strong winds whipping those showers through, gales across the northern half of the uk and still some snow adding to those totals across northern most scotland. you can see the temperatures down by two or three degrees typically on wednesday.
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it's wednesday into thursday, though, the big plunge of arctic air really sinks in. we pick up northerly winds for the last two days of the week. for thursday, at the moment, the story looks relatively straightforward with this front staying away to the south. a bright day for many, cold, yes, wintry showers for northern and eastern scotland and across northern england, potentially temperatures still just about in double figures for the south, but feeling colder in the wind. friday, a bit of a headache for us at the moment. we are watching this closely. will this front bump into the cold air enough to bring some snow fall further south? stay tuned.
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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. international condemnation as more evidence is found of killings of civilians and mass graves in ukraine. president zelensky visits the town of bucha, he approves russian troops of murder and torture. in the past few minutes, russia has rejected all allegations of war crimes and insists that bucha was staged. we are going to take a look at how the west should respond to atrocities in ukraine. tonight with the context, from new york, ian bremmer, president
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