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hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones and this is outside source. the president of ukraine has demanded that russia be expelled from the un security council for war crimes. volodymyr zelensky tells the un about the murder, torture and rape of civilians in the town of boocha and warns more atrocities may be discovered. translation: the world has yet to see what they have done - in other occupied cities and regions of our country. there's further evidence of destruction to the south, in mariupol, as civilians try to escape the fighting. translation: it doesn't exist any more. - it's been destroyed by shelling or an air strike. i don't have anywhere to go, and i still don't know
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whether my wife is alive or not. and there are warnings the number of people in extreme poverty in the uk could increase by two thirds. we'll see how people in northern ireland are making ends meet. ukrainian president volodymr zelensky has delivered a devastating address to the world's top diplomatic body, the un security council. he's demanding full accountability for the alleged atrocities carried out by russian forces. central to this is the town of bucha. it's just to the north—west of the capital kyiv. ukraine recaptured it very recently. and as russian forces withdrew from there, we began to hear reports of bodies discovered on the streets. first, let's hearfrom the ukrainian president. translation: yesterday i returned from our city of bucha _ recently liberated from russian troops not farfrom kyiv,
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so there is not a single crime that they would not commit there. the russian military searched for and purposefully killed anyone who served our country. they shot and killed women outside our houses when theyjust tried to call someone who is alive. they killed entire families, adults and children, and they tried to burn the bodies. the result of russia's actions in our country, in ukraine, the most terrible war crimes of all times we see since the end of world war ii and they are being committed. russian troops are deliberately destroying ukrainian cities to ashes with artillery and air strikes. they are deliberately blocking cities, creating mass starvation and they deliberately shoot columns of civilians on the road trying to escape hostilities. they even deliberately blow up shelters where civilians hide from air strikes.
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they are deliberately creating conditions in the occupied territories so that as many civilians as possible are killed there. these are the allegations so far. ukraine says at least a10 bodies were discovered in bucha, and in other areas around the capital — though the bbc can't verify that number. officials also describe finding five bodies with their hands tied in what they called a �*torture chamber�* in a basement. and this satellite image shows what appears to be a mass grave in a churchyard. the ukraine human rights ombudswoman says up to 300 bodies could be buried there. the bbc has seen further evidence of civilian killings — including a shallow grave where four people were allegedly buried after being shot dead by russian forces. the secretary general of nato had this to say. nato�*s task is to provide support to ukraine and we do so with the modern military equipment, financial military support and also
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humanitarian support. then it is for the ukrainian government and for president zelensky and the people of ukraine to decide what kind of piece arrangements they can expect. we know that there is a very close link between what they can achieve at the negotiating table and their strength on the battlefield, so the stronger we are able to make them on the battlefield, the more support, the most strength we can provide to the ukrainian armed forces, the better results they can achieve at the negotiating table. the bbc has been hearing from someone who escaped bucha when the war began, but has remained in touch with people there. we are experiencing a very horrible time and these horrors are just, you know... i'm speechless when i look at them, but the entire world has to see them because if the world doesn't know
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what is happening here, the world lives its normal, everyday life, does business as usual, and thousands of people die here. it is sad that all 12 people that i know, that i know died here, and notjust, you know, died because of age or some sickness or covid, they died because they were killed deliberately. moscow has consistently denied any responsibility for the civilian deaths. but have a look at this satellite picture from three weeks ago. it shows bodies lying in the streets, when russian forces were still in control of bucha. along another section of the road, the image shows what appear to be more bodies on the ground. today, at the un security council, we heard the russian ambassador repeat those denials. he also repeated the baseless russian allegation that ukraine's government — led by president zelensky,
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who isjewish — are nazis. the national heroes of ukraine are nazi collaborators, who are responsible, not only for the holocaust but the killing of hundreds of thousands of peaceful polls, russians, ukrainians and jews. you simply prefer not to notice ukrainian nazis, pretending that they are simply not there. but unfortunately they are there. and very many of them are young people. how do we know that? well, they are not concealing it.
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they have tatooes made, nazi tattoos. they decorate their clothing with swastikas and other nazi symbols. they give nazi greetings and they are open about it on social media. this is the assessment from human rights barrister, helena kennedy. she's been appointed to a ukrainian task force investigating the alleged atrocities commited by russian forces. the satellite images showing that the bodies were on the ground and in places while the russians were there, because the story is, from the russian�*s perspective that this was all put together, that people's hands were tied on dead bodies after they had left and it was nothing to do with them. i mean, are they really... they seem to be suggesting that ukraine has maliciously murdered its own citizens in order to blame the russians. well, i mean, i think we do know and have evidence of bombing of civilian residential areas, of hospitals, of orphanages, of places where they might be children who were in hiding with their families, so we really do have a level of evidence of all of that bombardment. our un correspondent nad tawfik has been telling me more about president zelensky�*s speech to the security council. he really did come with, i think, three main messages
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for council members. first, he wanted them to see in graphic detail the atrocities that he alleged were being committed by russian troops in bucha, and he showed a video that was extremely graphic of bodies maimed, bodies burned including children in the towns of irpin, bucha, mariupol, and he said that the kind of full light of what russia is accused of is now... the world is starting to see it and it's happening in other occupied cities that people aren't aware of, so he said it was imperative for russian forces to be held accountable, and part of that he said was un reform. he said the un security council, because of russia's veto, because it has been paralysed, hasn't been fulfilling its duty to maintain international peace and security and he said of the un
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can't be performed, it should be dissolved. which is quite extreme, you would have thought. not much chance of that. what does happen now, though? what action is available to the international community? yes, that is right and i think a lot of ambassadors here understood the frustration from president zelensky. calls to dissolve un kick much of the security council when there is no real mechanism to do that are not going to be gaining ground here in new york. what will be gaining ground, possibly, is kicking russia off the un human rights council in geneva and in order to do that western nations here are calling for a vote in the general assembly hoping if they get that two thirds majority of nations voting russia can be kicked off. they are now in a second term
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and the un ambassador has said it is the height of hypocrisy that russia would serve on abody that is meant to promote and respect human rights and that it was dangerous, too, for russia to remain on the council. we heard russia give its version of events which many around the world will take with a degree of scepticism. i want to ask you, though, about china. they have an interesting role in all of this. what did they say? yes. i think a lot of ambassadors talked about how moved they were, how sobering it was to hear from president zelensky and even china's ambassador to the un said it was very disturbing to see these images of civilians dead in the streets of blucher. these images of civilians dead in the streets of bucha. again, china is an ally of russia's on the council by saying that all accounts must be verified, everything has to be checked out,
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so not really, you know, taking the western account there of the evidence of the satellite images that they say prove the atrocities were committed while russia was still in control of bucha but i think it just shows you across the board and in the council how many were affected by what they were seeing and understand the gravity of if continues on in ukraine just not in the effects of the people in ukraine but globally for the international order, for the idea of rules —based war, all of this is extremely concerning, i think, from members of the council. just give us a flavour of the mood in the room. we showed some photos earlier of bucha which appeared to refute russia's claims.
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if in a sense that they listen to russia's claims with a degree of scepticism? what is the feeling they're about how much of his standing on the international community? i think you could tell right from the start of the meeting just how acrimonious the whole environment is now in the security council. the russian ambassador started off accusing the president at the security council, the uk ambassador to the un of outrageously denying his request for a security council meeting because he had requested one specifically to talk about russia's accounts and claims about bucha, and the uk president combined the meetings today when we were going to be hearing from president zelensky, the secretary general and other un officials who could give their accounts of what they are hearing, the official accounts from the un. which they confirmed they have been hearing about the use of cluster munitions and indiscriminate targeting of civilian populations
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and they have verified accounts of what could be war crimes in russia and so, as i say, it is a very acrimonious environment in the council but there really is no holding back when it comes to un officials and western nations and others as well who believe that russia is just using the council to spread lies and propaganda. let's take a closer look at what's happening in different parts of ukraine now. boro—dyanka — that's another town near kyiv in the north — may have suffered more than other towns abandoned by russian troops. these are the latest pictures we have from its destroyed streets. the bbc�*sjeremy bowen has visited there — and clive myrie asked him what it was like. badly damaged. i would say the damage there — physical, structural damage — is worse than bucha.
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i have been to bucha and i have been to irpin. i would say, of the towns of that size i have seen in the district, this is the worst. a lot of people here, numerous people in numerous interviews said there were dead people under the rubble. they have no lifting gear and cannot lift it up. i spoke to one man who said until the night of a big air strike he had been staying in the cellar and for some reason did go in last night. he said 20 to 30 people are missing and police have said there are perhaps 200 or 300 under the rubble. it is all an estimate at the moment until they actually start digging. the thing to remember is that under crimes of war, under international law, killing civilians is not allowed unless you can somehow prove it was a military target, and, also, wanton destruction — and the destruction in borodyanka is decidedly wanton — that is also a war crime. russian forces have withdrawn from a number of ukrainian cities. they left areas around
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kyiv and chernihiv. and western intelligence says russian troops are mainly relocating to eastern ukraine. their goal is to take control of the donetsk and luhansk regions. let's hear more from frank gardner. the first phase of this war is over. russia hasn't won it, but it hasn't necessarily lost entirely because it has made huge territorial gains in the south. they have more or less sealed off this land corridor they wanted in the south now. so they control pretty much two thirds of ukraine's black sea coast. three things are happening. they are refocusing their efforts on the donbas, which is a predominantly russian speaking area, where there is still quite a lot of sympathy for russia there. ukraine doesn't want to give up an inch of that territory, but that will be decided on the battlefield. and russia is slowly moving its forces up, reinforcing the forces there that it has got, tackling around 60,000 ukrainian armed troops. at the same time, it has withdrawn quite a lot of its
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northern forces across the border into belarus and into russia. to resupply, replenish, to patch up because they didn't do very well. frank talking about russia's attempt to control access to the black sea there sp let's look at that. russia has continued its attacks on cities that connect ukraine to the black sea. in a bit, we'll look at mariupol. but first let's go to the city of mykolaiv. russian troops have stalled there after ukrainian counter attacks — but shelling continues. 11 people died there yesterday. mykolaiv�*s mayor spoke to journalists outside a civilian building that was hit. all those people were just civilians who worked in their offices, who worked on evacuation, products and other stuff, so these are just victims of the putin regime. the mayor attended a funeral later — you can see these residents of mykolaiv grieving people they've lost. and during the service, the mayor said this.
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people are dying and they die just for nothing. it is really hard for me but i understand it more and you can'tjust sit and me but i understand it more and you can't just sit and cry. we need to go further. we need to go forward. now to the city of mariupol. this is what it looks like — it's been bombed to the ground. russians have been trying to take it for more than a month. hundreds of thousands of people have been trapped there with no clean water or electricity and limited food and medical supplies. sergei 0rlov is the deputy mayor of mariupol. translation: it appears to me that about 150,000 civilians _ are still in mariupol and among them from 5—7% are children, so all of them are living underground, i mean, in shelters, in bomb shelters, in any spaces below the earth, just not to be killed by this awful bombardment, air strikes using missiles, artillery,
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so there are constant battles inside this city. i mean, street battles, tent battles, so people are surviving and using any possibility not to be killed, and this is from military situation. and, of course, from humanitarian the situation is awful. people are living without anything — without food, water, medicine — they are just surviving. with official aid corridors not working, hundreds are evacuating the area by themselves. tom bateman sent this report from the town of zaporizhia where some people have managed to flee. a warning, there are distressing images in his report. all they had to warn off the russian guns was a white scarf. they've survived the long journey through the front line, but now they're pleading for help for those left in mariupol. translation: ifeel pity for the kids, the women. how many homes were destroyed?
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you can rebuild houses, but you can't bring people back. tom bateman sent this report from the town of zaporizhia russia has laid siege to mariupol for over a month now. nearly 5,000 people — including more than 200 children — have been killed, say ukraine officials. this is your home? lubov shows me what's left of where she lived. with her son and granddaughter, she sheltered in the basement for days. "this was my daughter's house," she says. but others want to get back to mariupol. evgeny left for a work trip just before the invasion. he texts his wife, svetla na, every day, but there's no answer. they last spoke a month ago in a desperate call during the shelling, and now their home is gone. translation: it doesn't exist any more. -
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it's been destroyed by shelling or an air strike. i don't have anywhere to go. and i still don't know whether my wife is alive or not. it is difficult to listen to those details. it is difficult to listen to those details. earlier i spoke to our correspondent in lviv, anna foster. i began by asking her about the operation to get people out of mariupol. it was first mooted in a serious way on thursday of last week and each day it keeps getting pushed back. we heard yesterday from the team of the international committee of the red cross had been detained on the way to mariupol, released again. there is still no humanitarian aid getting into the besieged city and there are still few people getting out. you heard in tom's reports that some people do manage it but it is perilous, a very difficult and dangerous journey and what they
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really need now is to bring people out in numbers. some of those tens of thousands of people who are trapped, they need to get them out of that city and to do that they need some kind of large—scale humanitarian corridor. the need some kind of large-scale humanitarian corridor. the chances ofthat humanitarian corridor. the chances of that scene... _ humanitarian corridor. the chances of that scene... we _ humanitarian corridor. the chances of that scene... we reported - humanitarian corridor. the chances of that scene. .. we reported every| of that scene... we reported every day and what we help with new enthusiasm, and there was buses on the road at points, but there seem to be a need for security guarantees on both sides for obvious reasons, that the convoy wouldn't be hit by either side. and some suggesting in ukrainian quarters that the fact it has been difficult to establish convoys and get them in is that russia simply isn't taking it seriously. russia simply isn't taking it seriously-— russia simply isn't taking it seriousl . ,, . , , ., , russia simply isn't taking it seriousl. ,, ., , ., , seriously. russia desperately wants to take the city _ seriously. russia desperately wants to take the city of _ seriously. russia desperately wants to take the city of mariupol. - seriously. russia desperately wants to take the city of mariupol. that i to take the city of mariupol. that is why things are looking the way they are. when russia looks at what it is trying to do now strategically, the areas it has failed to capture it like the area
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around the capital kyiv, they know they have refocused their military effort on the east of the country and on the south of the country and mariupol is key for us. it would give it a land corridor to annex crimea which doesn't exist at the moment. it isjust crimea which doesn't exist at the moment. it is just a crimea which doesn't exist at the moment. it isjust a bridge crimea which doesn't exist at the moment. it is just a bridge that they have to use to move people and supplies. mariupol is a valuable target for russia and that is why it has been proving so different to elite mat difficult to establish the humanitarian corridor. they do not want to let go by the fighting is going on. want to let go by the fighting is auoin on. �* , want to let go by the fighting is auoin on. h ., want to let go by the fighting is auoin on. �*, ., ., want to let go by the fighting is auoin on. h ., ., ., ~ ., going on. let's move and talk now about a small _ going on. let's move and talk now about a small town _ going on. let's move and talk now about a small town that _ going on. let's move and talk now about a small town that most - going on. let's move and talk now i about a small town that most around the world wouldn't have heard of and now president zelensky is focusing on it and we have seen images of it. it will be scarred in many peoples memories. i want to give you a line from the nfp news agency. russians
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two foreign minister says that they aimed to torpedo peace talks. from his perspective, these images from bucha are being used to torpedo peace talks. bucha are being used to torpedo peace talke— peace talks. that is interesting because when _ peace talks. that is interesting because when president - peace talks. that is interesting i because when president zelensky peace talks. that is interesting - because when president zelensky was in bucha yesterday he was asked by a representative of the bbc who was there what this would due to ongoing peace talks and in fact he said that peace talks and in fact he said that peace talks and in fact he said that peace talks would continue. he said that militarily but also diplomatically those ties will continue, the talks would continue. they are happening online at the moment by a video link so on a smaller scale. moment by a video link so on a smallerscale. i moment by a video link so on a smaller scale. i think people will be waiting for the next set of face—to—face talks. but president zelensky was clear yesterday that these potential war crimes do not rule out a potential talking solution to this.— rule out a potential talking solution to this. . ~ ., , ., solution to this. talk to us about
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where you _ solution to this. talk to us about where you are — solution to this. talk to us about where you are in _ solution to this. talk to us about where you are in lviv, _ solution to this. talk to us about where you are in lviv, clearly i solution to this. talk to us about| where you are in lviv, clearly not as affected as the south and the areas around kyiv. what is life like there? ., ., ., ., areas around kyiv. what is life like there? ., ., . ., ., there? you look out at the moment at this ci , there? you look out at the moment at this city. we — there? you look out at the moment at this city. we live _ there? you look out at the moment at this city, we live under _ there? you look out at the moment at this city, we live under a _ there? you look out at the moment at this city, we live under a curfew, i this city, we live under a curfew, you can be out on the streets between ten at night and seven in the morning. you get the sign mac sound assignments two or three times a day that ring out. the other notable thing is that people are arriving here now. i was at a station this morning talking to people from car kyiv, ukraine's second city and it is right on the front line of the fighting and now people who are arriving from the west are people who had been trapped on the front line for weeks. i spoke to a woman who told me that with her 11 and 13—year—old children, since ii and 13—year—old children, since the first day of this war, the 24th of february, they had been sheltering in the basement of a school in how kyiv and that school had been chilled russian forces. i spoke to another member of a
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two—year—old girl who said she had seen children killed when a bomb its body near her house and she decided she couldn't take it any more, she had to leave and get to safety. so these people and stories are arriving here in lviv all the time. shanghai has entered a covered lockdown. most of the city's residents have been confined to their homes. tens of thousands are in special quarantine centres. until now, there have been set of measures for eastern and western sides of the city. but now everyone living there has been told to stay at home. across china there were at least 12,000 new infections, the majority in shanghai. there are reports of the city's hospitals being overwhelmed. plenty more on that story online as well as all the other stories we have been covering.
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get me on social media. you can reach me on twitter — i'm @lvaughanjones for most of you choose they would have been a mild day, pretty cloudy, some sunny spells but different weather for northern scotland where it was wintry. 0n the cold side of this weather system. 0vernight, that milder air will move its way in and it means even over the tops of the scottish mountains, snow will turn back to rain before clearing northwards out of the way. weather fronts heading across 0rkney, working towards shetland. in the uk, overnight, clear spells and passing showers not cold, temperatures around 79 degrees for most areas. wednesday, unsettled. generally a
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day of sunshine and showers and a band of rain moves across england and wales through the day. that could be fairly heavy, lasting 20 or 30 minutes then the sunshine will be back. showers most frequently across the north west. temperatures 11 to 12 degrees. not as mild as tuesday. wednesday night, colder air returns across northern scotland particularly and a band of rain last seen across shetland comes back southwards. we see the rain turned to hill snow. we could see something like five, it may be ten centimetres of snow across high ground in scotland. thursday, rain to start the day in southern areas, otherwise a day of sunshine and showers. some have sleet or hail mixed in. cold winds extending southwards. temperatures into single figures. cold for the time of year. hanging on to some 11 or 12 degrees in some parts of england and wales. we end the week with low pressure,
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hopefully staying away from our shores and working across france, where it will be pretty windy. for most of the uk, a fine day, sunshine, so showers. showers start of the day in the north but as temperatures rise during the day the show with break—up more widely across inland areas and some of them could be quite heavy with a bit of hail of thunder, maybe some wintry across northern areas. saturday is the better of the two days of the weekend. sunday, cloud built in and some rain arrives in the north and west.
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hello, i'm lewis vaughan jones this is 0utside source. the president of ukraine has demanded that russia be expelled from the un security council for war crimes. volodymyr zelensky tells the un about the murder, torture and rape of civilians in the town of boocha — and warns more atrocities may be discovered we have yet to see what they have done in other occupied cities and regions of our country. there's further evidence of destruction to the south, in mariupol, as civilians, try to escape the fighting... it does not exist any more. it's been destroyed by shelling or air strikes and i don't have anywhere to go and i still don't
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know if my wife is alive or not. (sot) and there are warnings the number of people in extreme poverty in the uk could increase by two thirds — we'll see how people in northern ireland are making ends meet welcome back to the progrmame. the european union has proposed a new round of sanctions against russia, in response to the allegations of russian warcrimes in ukraine. the commission president, ursula von der leyen, said the plan was to ban all imports of russian coal, wood, cement — as well as seafood and vodka. and it will impose full transaction ban on four russian banks. the eu also says it plans to stop the sale of advanced ursula von der leyen, said the plan was to ban all imports of russian coal, wood, cement — as well as seafood and vodka. and it will impose full transaction ban on four russian banks. the eu also says it plans to stop the sale of advanced technology to russia,
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like semiconductors, the uk has been imposing its own sanctions on russia. and today on a visit to poland, its foreign secretary said the uk would do more. this week we will announce we have frozen over $350 billion of putin's war chest making over 60% of the regimes $604 billion foreign currency reserves unavailable. our coordinated sanctions are pushing the russian economy back to the soviet era. but we can and we must do more. as i told our mutual friend ukrainian foreign ministerfor labour yesterday. on thursday, i will be urging our nato and g7 partners to go further in sanctions. byjoining us in banning russian ships from our ports, cracking down on more russian banks, going after industries that are filling putin's war chest like gold and agreeing a clear timetable to limit imports of russian oil, coal, and gas.
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and it's that last one — gas — that's key here. you'll notice russian gas isn't included in the eu's sanctions. the reason for that, is russia accounts for about 40% of the eu's natural gas imports. earlier this month brussels laid out a strategy to reduce reliance on russia — but there's now pressure to do still more. over the weekend, lithuania announced it had stopped imports of russian gas . the president tweeted if we can do it, the rest of europe can do it too! tyler kustra is assistant professor of politics and international relations at the university of nottingham in central engalnd. he is an expert in economic sanctions policy. he says the latest announcement on sanctions is too little too late. the eu continues to employ substantial amounts of russian oil
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and natural gas. in 2019 the last year when we eventually had good statistics reported over $100 billion and that is what is funding putin's war and that's what needs to stop. it putin's war and that's what needs to sto -. , ' . putin's war and that's what needs to sto -. , , . ., putin's war and that's what needs to sto. , m ., stop. it is difficult to stop that because so — stop. it is difficult to stop that because so many _ stop. it is difficult to stop that because so many countries i stop. it is difficult to stop that because so many countries in| stop. it is difficult to stop that i because so many countries in the eu depend so much on it and the cost of living which is going up in so many countries would go up even further if those imports were suddenly stopped. if those imports were suddenly stoned. �* , , , ., stopped. absolutely. they will be an economic impact. _ stopped. absolutely. they will be an economic impact. we _ stopped. absolutely. they will be an economic impact. we have - stopped. absolutely. they will be an economic impact. we have seen i economic impact. we have seen estimates that it would cause a slight recession and at the same time look at what putin is doing in ukraine. i think it's a price we should be willing to pay to stop women from being raped and children from being murdered. haifa women from being raped and children from being murdered. how responsible is germany here? _ from being murdered. how responsible is germany here? it _ from being murdered. how responsible is germany here? it is _ from being murdered. how responsible is germany here? it is heavily - is germany here? it is heavily reliant on russia and other countries whispering on the sidelines that they could go further if germany would go further to. is there any basis in that? germany is
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russia's number one customer. germany has to leave here. germany has to stop importing so much natural gas from vladimir putin's murderous regime.— natural gas from vladimir putin's murderous regime. let's talk about the sanctions- _ murderous regime. let's talk about the sanctions. they _ murderous regime. let's talk about the sanctions. they are _ murderous regime. let's talk about the sanctions. they are coming i murderous regime. let's talk about the sanctions. they are coming in l the sanctions. they are coming in gradually and some people it may be simplistic view but i think it's a legitimate question. we are doing the step—by—step, why doesn't europe, america, everyonejust do everything at the same time? draw up a list of all the potential sanctions and introduce them at the same time? i sanctions and introduce them at the same time?— same time? i happen to agree on that. i same time? i happen to agree on that- ithink— same time? i happen to agree on that. i think we _ same time? i happen to agree on that. i think we should _ same time? i happen to agree on that. i think we should go - same time? i happen to agree on that. i think we should go big i same time? i happen to agree onj that. i think we should go big and go early. there is no reason to wait around for months while people are being murdered to say love those sanctions next month and the month after we should do a full court press immediately. i think there are somethings that have been in reserve simply so they have something to announce to the media. i mean what exports? give me a break. we have to go and stop when vladimir putin is
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getting money from which is natural gas. let getting money from which is natural as. , , , ., gas. let us put this in a wider context just _ gas. let us put this in a wider context just briefly _ gas. let us put this in a wider context just briefly for - gas. let us put this in a wider context just briefly for us. i contextjust briefly for us. sanctions are used against different countries at different times. how significant are the sanctions when you're in a historically? i significant are the sanctions when you're in a historically?— you're in a historically? i think the are you're in a historically? i think they are quite _ you're in a historically? i think they are quite severe - you're in a historically? i think they are quite severe but i you're in a historically? i think they are quite severe but still| you're in a historically? i think. they are quite severe but still not enough. we have seen some things being put off the financial system but not all of them and it allows russians to get around things. he had seen sanctions that prevented them from popping up the russian currency which is important. but again the largest single item of trade is the oil and natural gas celebrates everything but what's really needed. we're going to talk more about the alleged atrocities in ukraine now. we've heard russia accused of war
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crimes, and crimes against humanity. and yesterday — when visiting bucha, where the bodies of dead civilians were found — president zelensky said this. genocide, what you have seen here today, what you can see, what happened when thousands of people that were tortured and killed what they did to the women. the un genocide convention defines genocide as acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. (00v)such acts include killing members of the group(oov)causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group(oov)deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part(oov)imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group(oov)and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group lots of technical terms there, well to break it all down, i spoke to prominent human rights
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lawyer, sir geoffrey nice. the important words of the crime as it became having started as a sociological concept... the definition of the crime as it became having stated as a sociological concept would intent to destroy a group or part of a group as such. what you viewers need to understand is that mental state on the part of the perpetrator whether it's the individual doing the killing or putting at the top is quite difficult to prove whether a strange state of mind when you want to kill people, ukrainians simply because they are ukrainians and proving it does not meet the crime necessarily more serious, worse, more wicked and proving by the same facts another crime. is there a temptation by people in the media we could be guilty of fixating a bit too much on this word, genocide, when the crimes committed can stand on their own
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with the horror and don't need any additional definition? i'm sure you're right about that. but it ought to be borne in mind that politicians and lawyers having a 19a8 to 52 created the genocide convention to which the crime of genocide has come to be enacted in other statutes such as the international criminal court statute cannot now say to people with giving you this word, this wonderful man by fire created it all himself and a sensational achievement, you are using it and we don't want you to use it. no. people are entitled to see who gave us the word, it's not a crime and we need to have it tested. so president zelensky is entirely correct in raising the matter. i was going to get onto that. does it appear to you that there is potential evidence to back up these allegations by president zelensky?
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i'm sure there is but as you just said in your previous question is no need of a focus on it. what's really important to bear in mind in a very fast—moving situation is the international court ofjustice which is the worlds highest court is dealing with the genocide allegation concerning both ukraine and russia. ukraine took the matter a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago and the court has made a decision on the basis not of ukraine's allegations of genocide against russia but russia's allegations against the ukraine and sap in paragraph 59 that the court is not in possession of evidence substantiating the allegation of the russian federation, the genocide has been committed on ukrainian territory. it goes on to say there's very
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little prospect of russian justifying its invasion on the basis of its allegations of genocide by the ukrainians but it's open the issue of whether genocide has been committed. ukraine is entirely correct to go ahead and raise this issue but the other issues are before the international criminal court and the war and crime of aggression before the international criminal court and does matters should be tried and they are equally serious. we were talking about war crimes, can you give us a useful definition for that as well? where crimes are breaches of the geneva convention. they are so many of them and i can't miss them all but of this you can be quite sure. once they started attacking civilians and civilian properties they were crossing the threshold and one of war crimes had undoubtedly been committed and the do the people of ukraine no service by spending time
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on the lawyers arguments that postings have to be improved to a high level of proof. of course they do any trial but there has been no doubt from the beginning that this unlawful attack included were claims and so i would respectfully suggest president zelensky to keep focus on improving what crimes and crimes against humanity which is straightforward and easy to prove beyond a doubt. press ahead with his genocide allegation and keep that going as well. let's look at what's happening in russia now.
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as we know, russia denies it's responsible for civilian deaths in ukraine. i want to show you this clip of our russia editor steve rosenberg, putting a question about this to russia's foreign minister, sergei lavrov. (tx) mr lavrov, the us president has called your president a war criminal and said he must be held accountable, what does that tell us about russia's international reputation right now? what this says is that many american politicians who started the iraq war destroyed syria in the invaded libya, their conscience is in a bad way. our main interest is what the russian people think about the situation. because the kremlin controls television here completely it controls the messaging and it's been using these images to paint a very different picture to the russian public.
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now, do russians have access to alternative sources of information? less and less because virtually all independent russian news sources now have been either blocked or shut down. the kremlin dominates the information space here. but do russians believe it. well recent polls suggest they do. (00v) since the war, vladimir putin's approval rating is at 83%, up from 69%. and this is from russia s most respected independent pollster — the levada cente. and polls show a majority support this war. (00v) the new york times says "many russians now accept the kremlin s assertion that their country
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is under siege from the west." (pres)let�*s hear now from a former uk ambassador to russia — well recent polls suggest they do. let's hear now from a former uk ambassador to russia — he was asked if these polls should be believed. absolutely not at all, russians are very reluctant to give answers to opinion polls the least of all if they say something critical about the war where they could be prosecuted even for using the word war. opinion polls in russia find when they poll between seven and 10% of people they approached are even prepared to answer and many of these polls are manipulated by the russian government. but some russians have been open about not supporting the war. this man was a senior manager at one of russia's largest banks — and has resigned, after the bank supported the war. he told steve rosenberg why. (tx) russia has created a huge area of chaos and lawlessness in ukraine. of course the russian government is responsible for what's
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happening there. before the war i was proud of being russian, there was lots to be proud of but the war has cancelled all of that out. here in the uk — it's a month until elections in northern ireland. the new crisis there — and across much of the uk — is the rising cost—of—living. a think—tank has said the number of people in extreme poverty could increase by two thirds? that s more than any other part of the uk. our ireland correspondent chris page reports from north belfast. party politics here is very different to england, scotland and wales. but the issues affecting communities are often very similar. hello. how are you? people are turning to charities for the first time as they face financial emergencies. and you are managing with your electricity and your heating? just struggling with a gas and the electric,
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well, we have some more for you today to keep you going. thank you. not at all. it's a pleasure, kelly. that will keep us going for a wee while, by the, won't it? it is actually hard being stuck in this and you don't want to ask the help that you actually do need to. carrie is caring for two sons, studying for a psychology degree and wrestling dreadful choices. i have had to determine whether it is energy or food i am picking which is why i've had to seek help because you can'tjust pick one or the other. you need to heat your home. iam making, like, tremendous decisions as to how to get by for me and my family. the voluntary organisation working with carrie has seen a fivefold increase in requests for help. sometimes the people who have been our donors are not asking for help but that is very difficult for people. i would like to see government focusing on people's needs and coming up to the election now, i think they need to and people will want them to. they will be asking questions. in northern ireland, the areas which are most economically deprived tend to be the places which also
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suffered the worst violence during the conflict. signs of sectarian division are still very visible, such as these barriers between communities known as peace walls. although politics has delivered a largely successful peace process, many people say there hasn't been anywhere near enough progress towards dealing with poverty. there is no energy price cap in this part of the uk. regulation is different because the marketers. more oil, less gas. ministers have given an extra £200 to people on certain benefits, with families at the sharp end of rocketing bills say the devolved government must be fully restored. we need to allocate that money and get back in power in order to help northern ireland citizens survive. issues of identity can make this feel like a political place apart, but in this election, money matters are gaining ground. chris page, bbc news, belfast.
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now to golf, and the news that five—time champion tiger woods says his plan is to play in the masters. "as of right now, i am going to play" he said. tiger woods suffered life—threatening injuries(oov) 1a months ago after crashing his car while speeding. i've been finding out more from marc edwards at the bbc sport centre. (tx sot it is a surprise and it is a story that has the whole golfing world talking about it. he has been getting a tee off time as he is said he announced in news conferences that as of this moment he would play. he said he would play nine holes on wednesday before confirming that decision but the sheer excitement exuding from augusta is so tantalising. we heard from bryson dechambeau on monday. he talked about the volume emanating from the
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house when he came out. people scrambling for a glimpse of the maestro just practising his swing but rory mcilroy also heard from him today. he was echoing that sentiment. all of this as be described at the pictures we saw early on, more remarkable considering those life—threatening injuries in that car crashjust1a months ago. he almost lost his right leg and he said his numerous back and leg injuries over his career left him with pain each and every day so he's underwent so many operations on his back before surgery in 2017 finally sorted issues. he said he would be done before returning to win in 2019. what a victory that was and what an incredible return it would be for one of golf�*s superstars. how much has he been practising playing, that he had any chance of winning?
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he thinks he certainly can and he been there and done that and five times already and he return to play an exhibition tournament with his son charlie in december and did use a buggy to get around the course. in february he thought a cost come too soon and he paid 27 holes last week and nine on sunday and he was followed around by everybody, noise all over the place. people still excited. nine more on monday and he was with his good friendsjustin thomas and the masters champions and from the take a perspective he does not play if he does not think he's going to win and what a remarkable recovery that would be and it really would be one for the ages from the golf superstar that is tiger woods.
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we're going to end this edition of outside source with another story from ukraine. since russia's invasion, we've seen how ukrainians have mobilised. the bbc s abdujalil abdu—rasulov visited a volunteer centre in kyiv, helping local citizens. this is the sentiment where volunteers connect food and medicine for those who are still staying in kyiv and are unable to walk or error and are in desperate need of basic support and volunteers here and you can see some of the bags ready have basic food items and they also get a medicine and nappies and other items for babies including baby formula. christina is on the phone with an 82—year—old woman who says she has no food left at home.
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with a soft voice christina reassures her that she's not forgotten. christina set up this hub when russia invaded the ukraine in february and she started delivering food to the few elderly women and now her team looks after more than a thousand people and the list is growing. so are those who are willing to help. they try to do what they can. somebody send some products some of the medicine some clothes for children now where it worked like this. it hurts to see so much suffering that people are facing now. everyday christina and her team—mate
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drive around kyiv with a list of names to deliver food supplies and medicine. and people keep calling her asking for help. sometimes she gets calls from areas now taken by the russian forces and it's painfulfor her to know she cannot go there to help. but she's full of joy when she can. this time christina and her colleague brought supplies to an 85—year—old woman who lives alone in kyiv. and an unexpected gift of flowers but a smile to the woman's face. precious moments in a time of war. before we go, an update on elon musk buying in to twitter —
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for the last five days or so they have been trying to establish that humanitarian corridor to get buses in, get humanitarian aid in and get people out. x�*t�*et in, get humanitarian aid in and get people out-— in, get humanitarian aid in and get --eole out. . . .,, . , , people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the _ people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the only _ people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the only way _ people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the only way out - people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the only way out at i people out. yet again those attempts have failed. the only way out at the l have failed. the only way out at the moment is for people to risk it on their own on foot or in their own cars. before we go, an update on elon musk buying in to twitter — he is now the social media firm's single biggest shareholder and has been given a seat on twitter�*s board. twitter says the tesla billionaire's passionate belief in the services the platform provides is exactly what the company needs. but at the same time — the company is limiting his stake to a maximum of fifteen percent. it's also been reported he will not have a say on the platform's moderation, what speech gets banned or whose accounts get restored — a policy that applies to all board members.
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you can reach me on twitter — i'm @lvaughanjones hello again. a few sunny spells to be found but very different with a far northern scotland to wyoming return they had some heavy times and on the cold side of this weather system. what will happen over night is that that mild air is going to move its way in and what that means is even over the tops of the scottish mountains snow will turn back to rain before clearing north out of the way in the weather front heading across working its way to white shetland. for the rest of the uk over 90 epidemics got an extra passing showers. not a cold night. temperatures about 79 degrees for most areas. wednesday is an unsettled day. generally speaking it of sunshine and showers although
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they will be to spend a bit of sunshine and showers although they will be disbanded of a frame that moves across england and wales through the day. i could be happy blasting around 20 or 30 minutes then sunshine will be back out. temperatures for most areas and are 12 degrees. not quite as mild as it has been for most on tuesday. wednesday night is cold air return across northern scotland, a band of rain last seen across shetland come south as it gets picked up by the cold air we see to antiheroes now and again we could see something like five, maybe ten cm of snow across the high ground in scotland. thursday a bit of rain across southern areas otherwise it's a bit of sunshine and showers and some of the showers will be winter see or hail mixed in with cold wind extending south and for most of us temperatures just in finger figures, cold for this time of year and we are hanging onto 11 or 12% in parts of england and wales. we were and are week with an area of low pressure hopefullyjust about
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pressure hopefully just about staying pressure hopefullyjust about staying away from our shores and working across france where it would be windy. away from that system for most of the uk they are looking at a fine day with sunshine and showers. showers start in northern areas but as temperatures rise showers break out widely across inland areas and some of them could be happy with hail and thunder mixed in and some winter areas where temperatures will not be that high. there weekend saturday is the better of the two days and restart frosty but it's dry and sunny and sunday cloud will bend in and be able to see rain arriving in and be able to see rain arriving in the north and west.
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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. ukraine's president tells the united nations that russian troops are killing for pleasure. in one northern city, bucha, satellite images show streets strewn with bodies. president zelensky says this is the reality of life, under russian control. the massacre in our city bucha is only one, unfortunately only one of many examples of what the occupiers have been doing on our land for the 41 days. and further evidence of destruction in the south, in mariupol, as civilians, try to escape the fighting. in other news, france heads to the polls on sunday, as the country votes in the first round of the presidential election, with macron leading in the polls.
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