the headlines will follow at the top of the hour, after this programme. judy, i love you! i love you! judy, guess what? i love you! last thing he said to me was, "love you, mum." and i said, "love you, adam". and that was the last time i heard his voice. tributes have been paid to a man who died after being

stabbed in prescot yesterday. adam ellison was 29 and from the town. you want to shout it from every rooftop and say, "how dare you walk around the streets? you've murdered somebody? !" tributes are paid to _ 12—year—old ava white, stabbed to death during an argument in liverpool city centre. - we know how that family's feeling. yeah. people are always supporting us, everybody wants justice. i'm frightened of how the grief is going to get us when we do eventually get ourjustice, but i believe we will because i've got to. i've got to have hope. this is, by no means,

a cold case murder. investigation, absolutely not. and last thing on your mind when you go to bed is adam. today is the fourth year our adam has been taken from us. it doesn't feel any easier.

it hurtsjust as much, you know, it hurts all the time. but what happens is a couple of days before the fourth is, you begin to feel like somebody's stamping on your chest and, you know, you can't breathe and you're back in that room where, you know, they were trying to fight to save his life. and you... it's just all comes flooding back into your memories. and it's... so, no, it doesn't get any easier as time goes on. our family are big liverpool supporters and he loved his football. see, that makes me want to cry. you're always in our thoughts, but today especially. - me heart's killing, me chest can't breathe. i'm joyce, adam's mum.

he's still loved and missed every day. there's a big hole here. it will never be filled again. it's just... it's ongoing. i'm adam's sister. he was horrendously took from us. - he had a lovely home, - girlfriend, a dog, he wasjust a young man starting out in life. _ that will never leave us, ever. ah, it's staying red, isn't it? it's the first time i've been on this bridge. it keeps going in different colours. it's marvellous and it's appropriate for adam. we love him very much. i'm sure he's here with us. yeah, he'll be in the back- of us, giving us all a big hug. some days you just don't

want to go out the door, you just want to curl up. but people like you that are supporting us... it's brilliant. we can't thank you enough. a big clap to - everybody who come. thank you. people are always supporting us, so, yeah, onwards, and we'll keep fighting for ourjustice to come. it was a friday night, and he phoned me and he said, "mum, is it all right if i stay here with you tonight, you and dad?" isaid, "yeah, course." he said, "i'm going out with the lads." so, the last things he said

to me was, "love you, mum". and i said, "i love you, adam". and that was the last time i heard his voice. i got a phone call- from my auntie julie, when i was in bed. "adam's been stabbed, - come to whiston hospital, nic, straight away, it's bad." me landline's next to me bed and i remember it ringing. i was fast asleep and i remember our nicola shouting down the phone, "joanne, adam's been stabbed, get to the hospital as quick as you can." and i was like, all i remember is... i couldn't feel me legs or me arms.

we're just at the deane's house. this is the last place where adam was drinking, that night. he hadn't been out for over a year. no. for a drink or anything. and it was like... so he was made up to get out with his friends - and his family. adam is doing his normal pull your face routine. he's having a laugh. it's weird looking... | yeah, look at that. look how handsome he is. it'sjust not fair. when we left the deane's house, we decided we wanted to get a takeaway. and as we start to walk, we could see bikes coming from the other end towards us. we initially moved out the way and they went quite close to us, like, tried to hit us with the bikes. so we turned round, and called

them, like, idiots and stuff. with them being on a bike, we just expect them to give you the fingers, give you the shout and carry on driving, you would never expect them to stop and do anything that they did. adam broke away from the group and before they knew it, - he'd gone down the road to confront them. - the bike stops, the pillion passenger'sjumped off. and he stabbed adam in the neck. - this is, literally, i where it happened. and we used to use this - as a memorial before he got... we buried him. it's very raw because he was there on the floor. i not in a million years, if somebody had told me the day before, "your brother's gonna get stabbed tomorrow", i'd be like, "what?! 0uradam, he'sjust a normal

person who goes to work, who has his own house..." little dog. he's quite happy in himself and he's got a loving family, why? but it can happen, and it's... so, it can happen to anybody. if it can happen to adam, | it can happen to anybody. myself, nic and me mum and dad went through these sliding doors, and it'sjust people everywhere and the fella trying to save him, and we was bouncing up and down on his chest and there was machines everywhere. ijust remember there was blood everywhere and the smell was horrific. and we were begging them not to stop. - and they called it and said, "we can't do any more". i isaid, "no, please, please don't give up on him. he's a strong boy."

i remember saying to _ the doctor, "take me, instead." i'm his older sister, - i should look after him. take me. and they pumped him with more adrenalinel to try one last time. and we all watched the screen. there was a little blip. ijust remember looking at adam and he was white as a sheet and i felt his leg and i said, "he's dead". i'll never forget that night. never. i've brought some of his albums down.

i know we like looking at these and yeah... this is his christening things. he looked lovely in that, that day. yeah. and actually, we've got a really funny picture i of me and you laughing, i and we've got a hold of him and he just looks like, - "please stop taking pictures!" this is the one. that's the one. looks like he's i pulling the face. "0h, they're laughing again." there is his little shoes for his christening. he was such a placid baby. he was dead cute, really, wasn't he? 0h, gorg... he come out with a head of hair on him. yeah. didn't he? he was always happy. he was always smiling and had these little like dimples. sometimes you look at the picture and you go, "how can he be dead?" that sounds dead stupid, that, don't it? but how can he be dead when he's on there? sorry. and there are other times you just have to look at them to know he lived, don't you? i feel as though i've got to be strong for you.

no, you don't, why? because, well, it's affected us all. you don't have to be strong. you're his mum. i'm not being funny, but your pain must be even worse than our pain, because you made him and carried him. there was a big gap betweenjoanne and adam. i had miscarriages and i had to have surgery. so, when we were able to have adam, it was like a miracle. that's the cheeky face we know and love. and this is when he won the easter bonnet. - oh yeah, i made that. parade. yeah. mums and dads always . made them, didn't they? it was never the kids. adam in his teenage years, he loved swimming. he swam for prescot swim club. he loved to go in the park with his friends and playing football. he was always out. then he started . working for tesco. he was very popular in there. he was open and honest

with everybody. - you'd walk into tesco. and the first thing he'd do is give you a hug. two weeks before he died, he was in his manager's shirt and he's with this lady we've have known for years and they were just walking up together. and she turned round to me and she said, "you should be proud of him". i said, "i'm very proud of him". and that's stuck with me all this time, you know, iam proud. myjob, as a family liaison officer, is to be a conduit, j really, between the family. and the senior investigating officers, and it's to explain where we are with the - investigation, what we're i doing, why we're doing it. it's being able to empathise with them in the most - horrific of circumstances. but the fact of the matter

is i haven't lost my son, i my younger brother. so, whilst i try and empathise with them, i don't understand and i don't suppose i ever will. - hello, ian. morning, joyce, 0k? am i allowed to come in? yes. you are _ thank you very much. all right _ are you all right? i am i allowed to sit? yeah. all right. so, any updates for us? nothing concrete, j nicola, i'm afraid. what i can say is any- intelligence or any information that we get is looked - at and shred back to the, you know, to the bare bones . to see where it's coming from. and we look to the nth degree. with the length of time now that's gone since adam's. murder, information that we get isn't looked at differently - than it was looked. at in the first week. it'd be wrong of me to say it's

getting as much time spent . on it as it was four years ago, but when a new murder - comes in that the team have to investigate, . the murders that we've been investigating previously- do have to get left. yeah, we know that beginning bit's crucial, don't we? we understand that. yeah, when we heard, like, a couple of weeks ago - about this little girl - in liverpool and a knife crime again, just think... how old was she? 14? _ 12. was she 12? she was 12. we know how that family is feeling. them days where you're in a bubble, you're numb. it sounds stupid, you do stuff, like, you try and get them back from the dead, don't you? and do the bizarrest stuff and then you wake up and you realise it's not a dream and you're sat round the table with the police and you're just thinking... ijust feel for them. i know... there's nothing that. we would all want more than to come and say, "well, actually, look, | this is what we've done - and someone has been charged".

we're not there yet, i but that doesn't mean to say that we won't be. thank you. no worries, bye—bye, bye—bye. i'm detective chief inspector cath cummings of merseyside police, and i'm a senior investigating officer at the major crime unit. what happened to adam, there is absolutely no sense to it. he was certainly not in the wrong place at the wrong time. he went out on a friday night for drinks after work, like you or i may do on a friday evening. what we do know from extensive cctv inquiries, witness statements, witness accounts, investigative techniques is that, earlier on that evening, there is a group of five off—road motorcycles in prescot town centre behaving aggressively. they drive out dangerously, turning right

onto the high street. later on that night, they went back towards highton, entered king george v playing fields and across back to the direction of the hillside avenue estate. shortly after, there was a green and white kawasaki that then alighted through that park back towards prescot and there was two on board, the rider and the pillion passenger. around half past midnight now, into the saturday morning of the 4th of november, here at the old mill public house, the pillion passenger was seen to get off the bike and was looking through the window as though they were looking for someone. a short time after, he's got back on the rear of the bike and they've headed off back down towards ecclestone street. the green and white kawasaki was driven down here at speed. at that time, orjust a minute before, adam and his friends

have literallyjust left the pub and are headed in this direction to go and get something to eat. their paths have literally crossed on this corner. as adam shouted to them, they've stopped and the passengers has got off and gone back towards adam, where he was fatally stabbed. after adam was stabbed in the neck and everyone�*s focus is on trying to give medical attention to adam, the passenger got back on the bike and it headed off at speed. the bike then went into king george v playing fields, across again to the hillside avenue estate. the green and white kawasaki was never seen again. people on that estate know who was riding it. they know where that bike went and they know who was on it. very early on in the investigation, there

were a number of warrants executed and arrests made. two years on, there was further arrests so in total there have been 12 people that have been arrested and questioned over the offence and for the different roles and parts they may have played in adam's murder. this isn't going away for anybody. there's updates in technology. this is by no means a cold case murder investigation, absolutely not.

the adam foundation was set up not long after our adam was taken, and it was set up by lovely people, who wanted to carry on with his name and do something for the community. i think the community that heard about adam that they were like... he's such a young gentleman and this has happened to him. it's nice to give back to the community and do something a bit more positive. in a way, it keeps his name alive. this is the age where kids do know right from wrong. their choice in which way they go. it's not big and it's not hard. no, no, it's not big. or if they're carrying it because they're frightened of their life, be prepared that they might take somebody else's life and they've got to live with that, too.

i'm a bit nervous, if i'm honest with you. i want to come and do it with you because i know you go and do them a lot and you're really brave for doing it. i'm proud of you, i really am, and our adam would be, too. right, let's go. do you want to put your bag on this chair behind? afternoon, guys. the aim of this presentation is to bring something positive from the tragic, unnecessary death of adam. not only did adam lose his life, his family and friends lost a massive part of theirs, too. so, the family of adam wanted his story to be heard, hopefully to make people understand that knife crime isn't cool, and it doesn't

make you look tough. it wrecks lives. this is adam's mum, boys and girls. - the lady next to joyce is adam's sister. - he was loved by everybody. he didn't deserve to die, that night. it's cold—blooded murder. you just don't take knives out with you. if you come across that situation, just get away from it and tell somebody. and last thing on your mind when you go to bed is adam. the adam ellison - foundation, i've seen i've got three children and one of my children is the same age as you all. and he still hurts, now. a couple of weeks ago, he said to me, "mum, do you remember uncle adam bought me a ball for my birthday?" that was one of the last times he'd seen adam, and he said... sorry... - "i'm going to... i'm going to come and play with you this soon." and he said, "and he never got to play with me." so it hurts. sojust think.

never, never carry that knife because it's not worth it. if it's just that one child who might feel the peer pressure to carry a knife, and we've given that talk and they have a little think about, "actually, i don't want to be in that gang and they're carrying knives," then with the job's done, what we're doing, isn't it? yeah, yeah. all of you that can change the future. it's your generation that's going to change. thank you. it looks lovely, doesn't it? gorgeous _ sometimes i come here because i need a good yak with him. and sometimes i come to realise that it's real,

without sounding stupid. sometimes ijust come to have a good cry on my own. our adam is a massive part of my life. - always will be. always has been, since the day he were... - imet him. he was unique and he was my. brother and i love him so much. 0uradam is 29, but he's still my little baby bro. and i love him and miss him. you want to shout it - from the rooftops and say, "how dare you walk around the streets?! _ you've murdered somebody! " people know you've done it. you'vem _ people who know you know you've done it. i how can they sleep at night? people who've had justice say it doesn't bring them back and it doesn't make it easier. but it makes the not having to fight easier, you know? yeah. - it does... we canjust grieve as much as we can. yeah. - can't we?

anybody out there that knows anything that can give usjustice for adam, look in your hearts. look what we're going through. i don't want this to happen to any otherfamily. please tell the police the information you've got. details of organisations offering information and support are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline. hello. i think skies like this on thursday —

large cumulus clouds — and over the high ground, certainly the possibility of some wintry showers. but wherever you are on thursday, there's a chance of catching a little rain, but there'll be lengthy sunny spells, too, so it's not all bad. but the weather is unsettled, and you can see low pressures there moving off the atlantic in our direction. one such area of low pressure currently crossing the uk, giving a spell of some very windy weather from northern ireland through the irish sea, but particularly windy around the lancashire coastline around merseyside. northern parts of wales, gusts of wind here approaching 60 mph for a time during the early morning, and also across the highlands of scotland, the cold northerly wind bringing a covering of snow across the hills there. now the temperatures early on thursday morning, three celsius in aberdeen, eight celsius in london. and then this is the picture through the day — the low pressure is out in the north sea by this stage, but on the backside of it, the winds are coming

in from the north. so it's a cold wind, a really gusty wind, it really will feel very chilly. these are the gusts of wind approaching, 40—50mph in places. so with temperatures of only around seven celsius, it really will feel very nippy on the north sea coast — only seven there in newcastle. and again, i said those showers could be wintry across the high ground. further south, i think the sunny spells will be most prolonged, so actually feeling pretty decent in the southwest. this is the following night, so thursday night into friday, the possibility of rain grazing the south of the country. here temperatures will be four celsius, but for the rest of us the following night, it will be quite frosty. so a chilly start to friday morning, the possibility of some rain along the southern counties, and also the possibility of further wintry showers across scotland, mostly across the hills there. but i think, again, lots of sunny spells on the way, and disappointing temperatures between 8—12 celsius so below the average

for the time of the year. here's the outlook, then, as we head over the next few days and into the weekend — it will calm down, i think saturday is actually not a bad day for most of us. sunday will become more unsettled once again. that's it from me, bye—bye.

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