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with ordinary citizens, many with their hands tied behind their backs and gunshot wounds. video and photos _ backs and gunshot wounds. video and photos from _ backs and gunshot wounds. video and photos from bucha _ backs and gunshot wounds. video and photos from bucha and - and photos from bucha and elsewhere are governed by the bbc, often from social media, and subjected to scrutiny as to their validity. with the kremlin running a significant disinformation campaign and proven examples of images being mislabelled or distorted, getting to the truth of what is accurate and what is not is far from easy. one of those bbc journalists whose task it is to verify the privilege coming out of ukraine is syan who works at bbc monitoring. can you give us an idea of the volume of material related to ukraine coming in and where it is coming in and where it is coming from?— coming in and where it is coming from? yes, it's above and beyond — coming from? yes, it's above and beyond anything - coming from? yes, it's above and beyond anything i've - coming from? yes, it's above| and beyond anything i've ever seen. i've been doing thisjob for years, seen. i've been doing thisjob foryears, i seen. i've been doing thisjob for years, i have on past conflicts, terrorist attacks,
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throughout panini, the us election, and this conflict has given us the highest volume of footage. but these be verified on a daily basis, it's been six weeks now and it's been, frankly, hundreds of simply thousands of videos. one times these videos are uploaded by people in the west but what we have of most of these videos usually is the telegram app which is a chat, extremely popular in russia and also in ukraine. that is usually where these videos are fast uploaded and thatis videos are fast uploaded and that is where we try to go to try to verify these videos. to talk through how you verify, we some specific examples, and we're being very careful newswatch not to throw the full images. the massacre of buchar, russia said the footage was staged. how did you go about verifying those? the
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staged. how did you go about verifying those?— staged. how did you go about verifying those? the person we saw was a _ verifying those? the person we saw was a car _ verifying those? the person we saw was a car driving _ verifying those? the person we saw was a car driving through l verifying those? the person we saw was a car driving through a j saw was a car driving through a street in buchar, and it showed bodies all around the street. two separate bits in that video, the next day the russian foreign ministry claimed were made up because in one instance they said one of the bodies they said one of the bodies they can see in the video moves its arm, and another when they size as the car drives through the street, it can see through the street, it can see through the right—hand side wing mirror one of the bodies stands up and basically they are classed as actors. we got hold of higher resolution footage and when we checked and examined the high resolution video, it turned out the first one that russians said was fake was actually a speck of dirt or a raindrop travelling across the windscreen. in the second one that they set a body was standing up was just one of those wing mirrors that had curved mirrors, that they called a spherical mirrors, and when you slow down the video you can see the buildings in the background and the body, all of them, basically the reflection of them in the wing
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mirror is distorted, so it wasn't the body moving, it was just a distortion caused by the mirror. and then on the evening of sunday, we got high resolution images from getty images and afp of the exact same body is the russians had focused on that confirm the exact two bodies when those images, we match them with the footage in the video, and then the next day via makassar, a company that provides high—resolution satellite images from parts of the world, we got third confirmation, the exact same bodies we had matched early in the footage that the russians were saying fake com you could see them on the 19th of march. so when the russians were in control of buchar, those exact same two bodies and a few others actually come you could see them from satellite images in mid—march. red there is also footage reported to be showing ukrainian soldiers shooting russian prisoners of war and this time it is ukraine saying it is this time it is ukraine saying it i- , ., this time it is ukraine saying iti , ., �* , this time it is ukraine saying iti , . �* , this time it is ukraine saying it is staged. briefly can you tell us what _ it is staged. briefly can you tell us what you _
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it is staged. briefly can you tell us what you verified . tell us what you verified without footage?- tell us what you verified without footage? tell us what you verified without foota . e? ., ., . , without footage? that one was extremely _ without footage? that one was extremely difficult _ without footage? that one was extremely difficult because - without footage? that one was extremely difficult because we | extremely difficult because we had to geo— locate the video first and foremost, we realised it was shot outside of a village called malaya rohan just outside of kharkiv at the end of march in the afternoon, we checked the shadows and everything, we think it was in the afternoon. then the most important thing was to figure out what was said and what kind of accents were used in the video and we contacted colleagues from bbc russia, the ukrainian service, bbc monitoring, both russia and ukraine, who are experts in languages and russian forces in ukrainian forces, and they told us that the language used by the people who basically shot three soldiers in the leg was consistent with ukrainians in the east of ukraine speaking russian. and then the russian soldiers, although we could not see anything on them, from what was said in the video, we could work out that there was evidence that was basically russian soldiers, because we
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saw other footage on the intranet that confirmed there was actually an offensive by the ukrainians in that particular village malaya rohan earlier, and they had captured about 30 russian soldiers. so putting all those pieces of puzzles together, we then talk to some experts, some forensic experts, because the ukrainians were saying the footage was staged, we asked them, look at these gunshots going through these gunshots going through the leg, does that look staged to you? and three separate experts told us it looks real. so clearly explained, thank you. can you just explain geolocation, which you mention? yeah, so geolocation is the process of when you see a video, oran process of when you see a video, or an image, process of when you see a video, oran image, it process of when you see a video, or an image, it is the process of figuring out where exactly in the world that image all that video was taken. and what we use as we look for any clues, any signs in the video or the footage from the language being used to signs on the street, to the type of
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vehicles being used, number plates, what season it looks like in the video, what people are wearing. all those things, shop signs, you name it. anything we can see in the footage that helps us understand where it could potentially have been shot is basically offered to us. so we look for all of those and then we try to figure out who uploaded this piece of footage, where they are based, what language they speak, and in what language did it first appear on the intranet. and then we go on using satellite images, using services like google earth pro, yandex maps, all of these services that are freely available on the internet, we use all of them together in order to be able to establish where a footage was shot, which is basically a really important part of trying to verify content, particularly during this war.— during this war. bbc monitoring, - during this war. bbc monitoring, thank. during this war. bbc l monitoring, thank you during this war. bbc - monitoring, thank you so during this war. bbc monitoring, thank you so much.
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clive myrie is back in kyiv now, having presented and reported extensively from the city at the start of the war. in the meantime he has hardly been idle, presenting shows ranging from sunday morning on bbc one to the very different programme at the same name on radio three. he has also appeared on screen in his regular berth, posing the questions on mastermind and last friday popped up as quizmaster again on have i got news for you. laughter this is of course the war in ukraine, which appears to be entering a new phase, after negotiations between the russians and ukrainians... hose russians and ukrainians... how would you _ russians and ukrainians... how would you know? _ russians and ukrainians... how would you know? how - russians and ukrainians... how would you know? how would i i would you know? how would i know, would you know? how would i know. good — would you know? how would i know, good question. - would you know? how would i know, good question. how- would you know? how would i | know, good question. how did the head of the russia negotiation team explain the withdrawal of forces from around kyiv? it withdrawal of forces from around kyiv?— withdrawal of forces from around k iv? , . , around kyiv? it is a new phase ofthe around kyiv? it is a new phase of the war. — around kyiv? it is a new phase of the war, court _ around kyiv? it is a new phase of the war, court defeat. - of the war, court defeat. laughter that show, pre—record of the day before, finished at 9:30pm, and half an hour later, who should be presenting the news
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at ten? ., . at ten? tonight at ten, five weeks on. _ at ten? tonight at ten, five weeks on, the _ at ten? tonight at ten, five weeks on, the cost - at ten? tonight at ten, five weeks on, the cost to - at ten? tonight at ten, five i weeks on, the cost to civilians of russia's invasion of ukraine. amid the aftermath of intense fighting, the bbc uncovers evidence of civilian killings that could amount to war crimes.— war crimes. phil tess was worried — war crimes. phil tess was worried about _ war crimes. phil tess was worried about the - war crimes. phil tess was worried about the issue . war crimes. phil tess was | worried about the issue of fatigue, writing on sunday, having seen clive myrie reporting from ukraine, hosting have i got news for you, presenting the six o'clock news, mastermind and this morning presenting andrew marr�*s old sunday morning show, i am left wondering if he ever goes home. please give someone else a go. pete sherrod recorded a video, explaining his concern. i recorded a video, explaining his concern.— his concern. i am having difficulty _ his concern. i am having difficulty changing - his concern. i am having difficulty changing gearl difficulty changing gear between _ difficulty changing gear between clive - difficulty changing gear between clive myrie's i between clive myrie's conflicting _ between clive myrie's conflicting roles, - between clive myrie'sl conflicting roles, jokily presenting _ conflicting roles, jokily. presenting controversial conflicting roles, jokily - presenting controversial comedy have _ presenting controversial comedy have i_ presenting controversial comedy have i got — presenting controversial comedy have i got news _ presenting controversial comedy have i got news for— presenting controversial comedy have i got news for you, - presenting controversial comedy have i got news for you, and i have i got news for you, and his other— have i got news for you, and his other one _ have i got news for you, and his other one as _ have i got news for you, and his other one as a _ have i got news for you, and his other one as a serious i have i got news for you, and i his other one as a serious news presenter, _ his other one as a serious news presenter, fronting _ his other one as a serious news presenter, fronting the - his other one as a serious news presenter, fronting the ten i presenter, fronting the ten odock— presenter, fronting the ten o'clock news. _ presenter, fronting the ten o'clock news. this - presenter, fronting the ten o'clock news. this is- presenter, fronting the ten. o'clock news. this is pointed out lly— o'clock news. this is pointed out by this_ o'clock news. this is pointed out by this programme - o'clock news. this is pointed| out by this programme being broadcast _ out by this programme being
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broadcast last— out by this programme being broadcast last week - out by this programme being broadcast last weekjust i out by this programme being broadcast last weekjust half| broadcast last weekjust half an hour— broadcast last weekjust half an hourapart. _ broadcast last weekjust half an hourapart. i— broadcast last weekjust half an hourapart. i have- broadcast last weekjust half an hourapart. i have no- an hourapart. i have no problem _ an hourapart. i have no problem with— an hourapart. i have no problem with him - an hourapart. i have no. problem with him chairing something _ problem with him chairing something like _ problem with him chairing i something like mastermind, problem with him chairing - something like mastermind, but when _ something like mastermind, but when he — something like mastermind, but when he is — something like mastermind, but when he is required _ something like mastermind, but when he is required to— something like mastermind, but when he is required tojoke i when he is required tojoke about— when he is required tojoke about world _ when he is required tojoke about world leaders - when he is required tojoke about world leaders and i when he is required tojoke i about world leaders and ukraine one minute, _ about world leaders and ukraine one minute, and— about world leaders and ukraine one minute, and then _ about world leaders and ukraine one minute, and then read i about world leaders and ukraine one minute, and then read the i one minute, and then read the news _ one minute, and then read the news about— one minute, and then read the news about them _ one minute, and then read the news about them with - one minute, and then read the news about them with a - one minute, and then read thel news about them with a serious face shortly _ news about them with a serious face shortly afterwards, - news about them with a serious face shortly afterwards, it - face shortly afterwards, it just — face shortly afterwards, it just doesn't _ face shortly afterwards, it just doesn't feel- face shortly afterwards, it just doesn't feel right. i face shortly afterwards, it i just doesn't feel right. one or the other— just doesn't feel right. one or the other please, _ just doesn't feel right. one or the other please, not- just doesn't feel right. one or the other please, not both. i just doesn't feel right. one orl the other please, not both. on our last the other please, not both. our last programme, we the other please, not both.“ our last programme, we featured your objections to the priority given on will smith's slapping chris rock at the oscars over a joke about will smith's wife. it was clear that some of you have heard quite enough on that subject, but there was more to come. this is the late news bulletin last saturday. win bulletin last saturday. will smith resigns _ bulletin last saturday. will smith resigns from - bulletin last saturday. ll smith resigns from the oscars academy after slapping comedian chris rock on stage during last sunday's ceremony. the exasperation _ sunday's ceremony. the exasperation felt - sunday's ceremony. the exasperation felt by i sunday's ceremony. the exasperation felt by this caller to our phone line is clear. i caller to our phone line is clear. , �* �* , clear. i put the bbc news channel _ clear. i put the bbc news channel on _ clear. i put the bbc news channel on for _ clear. i put the bbc news channel on for the - clear. i put the bbc news channel on for the news, | clear. i put the bbc news i channel on for the news, and it is that— channel on for the news, and it is that damned oscar thing, with— is that damned oscar thing, with the _ is that damned oscar thing, with the slap, etc, and a woman
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saying _ with the slap, etc, and a woman saying i— with the slap, etc, and a woman saying i have never seen anything more shocking. at about— anything more shocking. at about ukraine?! the news channel— about ukraine?! the news channel is for the news, and that— channel is for the news, and that 0scar— channel is for the news, and that oscar thing is not news now, — that oscar thing is not news how. and _ that oscar thing is not news now, and it really wasn't in the — now, and it really wasn't in the first— now, and it really wasn't in the first place. get your act together, now!— the first place. get your act together, now! thank you for all our together, now! thank you for all your comments _ together, now! thank you for all your comments this i together, now! thank you for| all your comments this week. together, now! thank you for i all your comments this week. if you want to share your opinions about what you see, read or hear on bbc news, on tv, radio, online and social media, e—mail us. oryou online and social media, e—mail us. or you can find us on twitter. you can call us also. and do have a look at our website for previous interviews. that is all from us. we are off the air next week over easter, but we'll be back to hear your thoughts about bbc news coverage again in a fortnight. goodbye. today wasn't quite as cold as yesterday, because the wind wasn't as strong, but we have still ended the week
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with temperatures below par for the time of year. we take that chilly arctic air into the start of the weekend with us. however, as we move into next week, a shift in the pattern, southerly winds delivering some warmer conditions across the uk. so, for this weekend, it will be chilly, particularly at first. some cold and frosty nights, often dry, just a few showers. next week, it will feel warm, where we get some sunshine, but it won't be sunny all the time. there will also be some outbreaks of rain. talking of rain, we saw some heavy downpours across southern england and the channel islands during this morning. that clearing away, then some sunny spells, but also, as you can see from the radar picture, lots of showers, some thunderstorms, some wintry showers, especially across northern areas. now, most of those showers will slowly fade, as we head through the night. clear skies overhead. that will allow for quite a widespread frost, temperatures even, in the towns and cities, down around or below freezing. we could see lows of around —1i out in the countryside in parts of northern england.
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so into tomorrow, a cold, frosty, but bright and sunny start. through the day, we will see some showers once again, but these most plentiful up towards the north and the east, where it will stay breezy. further south and west, lighter winds, not as many showers, more dry weather and plenty of sunshine. temperatures still a touch below the average for this point in april. seven to 12 degrees. now, as we move through saturday night, this little ridge of high pressure topples its way eastwards again. that will allow it to get cold and frosty, but this frontal system pushing in from the west will start to introduce a little more cloud. so temperatures out west, in belfast and plymouth for example, may stay above freezing. most places again having a cold start to sunday morning, but a bright start, with plenty of sunshine. through the day, as that weather system approaches, we will see more cloud building in from the west. the majority will stay dry. a bit of rain could just splash into parts of northern ireland later on, but the winds starting to come up from the south, so temperatures will climb just a little, a trend that will continue into next week. if we do get some sunshine,
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this is bbc news, our top stories: there's outrage after another atrocity in ukraine, at least 50 people are dead and hundreds more injured in a rocket attack on a train station. as you can see, the station, outside it, it is empty but this morning it was packed with people, many of them women and children trying to flee this city to safety. more help is on the way, with countries sending weapons including, for the first time, an air defence system. after hitting the comedian chris rock, the actor will smith is banned
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