tv Talking Business BBC News April 9, 2022 1:30pm-2:01pm BST
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this is bbc news. the headlines. officials in ukraine say ten humanitarian corridors have been agreed to help people fleeing the war. one of them is for the port of city of mariupol, which has been described as "hell on earth". western officials say a russian general with extensive experience in syria has been put in charge of moscow's operations in ukraine. general alexander dvornikov has been given the job of improving co—ordination between russian forces in ukraine. there have been angry scenes in pakistan's parliament between supporters and opponents of the prime minister, imran khan, ahead of a vote of no confidence. the speaker of the national assembly temporarily adjourned the proceedings — though parliament has now reconvened. and, to boldly go — the first ever private astronaut mission to the international
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space station is in the process of docking. now on bbc news, talking business. hello, everybody, a very warm welcome to talking business weekly, with me, aaron heslehurst. let's have a look at what's on the show. the great russian reformation. as sanctions keep growing, i'm going to ask what impact they are having on living standards under putin's regime. with prices of everything, from sugar to medicine, on the rise, i'm going to speak to a former russian deputy energy minister turned opposition politician, who says that we have never seen such a big cut off of such a major economy in the history of globalisation. and the consequences will be profound. after more than 20 years in power, just how much does president putin worry about the impact his decisions are having on livelihoods across that vast nation? his former chief economic
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adviser will give me an insight into the thinking inside the kremlin. also on the show, ukraine has been cut off in a different way — its skies have been closed to all air traffic since russia's invasion began. this top executive from the ukrainian airline, skyup, will tell me just what that has meant for the business. where ever you are joining where ever you arejoining me where ever you are joining me from, a big hello and a warm welcome to the show. russia's invasion of ukraine is having a major impact on the global economy, but of course it is also having an impact within russia itself. before the war russia was closely connected to the rest of
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the world, exports accounted for nearly a third of its economy. that's because russia is a major exporter of raw materials, from oil and gas, to weed and sunflower oil. now in russia there is growing economic turbulence. russia's path of economic growth has been bumpy since the fall of the soviet union more than 30 years ago. recent economic dips coincide with the invasion of crimea in 2014 and the coronavirus pandemic. amid widespread sanctions, a recent survey by russia's own a central bank forecasts that the economy will shrink by 8% this year, other estimates put that number as high as 15% to stop that could translate to a major drop in living standards for russia's population. the unemployment rate could nearly double to nearly 7.8% this year, because many companies have policy
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trading. life is already getting more expensive. at the end of march, the economy ministry said prices were increasing at a yearly rate of almost 16%. were increasing at a yearly rate of almost16%. cars were increasing at a yearly rate of almost 16%. cars and electronics have seen some of the biggest rises. for years, the russian economy has brought in billions of dollars by selling its oil and gas to other countries. but as they try to move away from all of that, president putin remains defiant. translation: putin remains defiant. tuna/mom- putin remains defiant. translation: . ., . putin remains defiant. translation: . . , , translation: the collective west is not auoin to translation: the collective west is not going to abandon _ translation: the collective west is not going to abandon the _ translation: the collective west is not going to abandon the policy - translation: the collective west is not going to abandon the policy of. not going to abandon the policy of economic pressure on russia. we need to strive to maximise the utilisation of our enterprises to create new abilities and increase the global competitive nests of russia as a whole. at the same time, the key economic factor of the economy for i should be the preservation and creation ofjobs, the reduction of poverty, the improvement of the quality of life for people, and the availability of goods and services.— goods and services. let's get a sense of the — goods and services. let's get a sense of the impact _ goods and services. let's get a
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sense of the impact inside - goods and services. let's get a i sense of the impact inside russia. here is some of the reporting steve rosenberg has been doing since the war in ukraine began at the end of february. war in ukraine began at the end of februa . . a, , . ., war in ukraine began at the end of februa . . , february. once, moscow glistened with aspiration _ february. once, moscow glistened with aspiration to _ february. once, moscow glistened with aspiration to be _ february. once, moscow glistened with aspiration to be a _ february. once, moscow glistened with aspiration to be a global- with aspiration to be a global financial centre, an economic giant. after the kremlin�*s invasion of ukraine, the world has turned its back on russia. russians are feeling it. svetlana's advertising agency is already losing clients. it is it. svetlana's advertising agency is already losing clients.— already losing clients. it is 'ust like a nightmare i already losing clients. it is 'ust like a nightmare fori already losing clients. it is 'ust like a nightmare for me, h already losing clients. it isjust| like a nightmare for me, really. already losing clients. it isjust l like a nightmare for me, really. i can't _ like a nightmare for me, really. i can't believe that this is really happening. we don't want to go back there. _ happening. we don't want to go back there. to _ happening. we don't want to go back there, to the iron curtain. we don't want _ there, to the iron curtain. we don't want to— there, to the iron curtain. we don't want to be — there, to the iron curtain. we don't want to be isolated from the society _ want to be isolated from the society. me personally and everybody who i know. _ society. me personally and everybody who i know, we don't want this. life is changing — who i know, we don't want this. is changing for who i know, we don't want this. life: is changing for russians. sanctions are making their country look very different. at mcdonald's, final
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orders. it is suspending russia in —— business in russia, over what it calls the needless human suffering unfolding in ukraine to stop this customer believes that the russian offensive is destroying russia's future. it offensive is destroying russia's future. , , , ., future. it is very sad. it is not 'ust future. it is very sad. it is not just mcdonald's _ future. it is very sad. it is not just mcdonald's closing, - future. it is very sad. it is not just mcdonald's closing, all. future. it is very sad. it is not - just mcdonald's closing, all western businesses — just mcdonald's closing, all western businesses are — just mcdonald's closing, all western businesses are shutting _ just mcdonald's closing, all western businesses are shutting down. - businesses are shutting down. everyone — businesses are shutting down. everyone who _ businesses are shutting down. everyone who can _ businesses are shutting down. everyone who can is _ businesses are shutting down. everyone who can is leaving. l businesses are shutting down. | everyone who can is leaving. it businesses are shutting down. . everyone who can is leaving. it is businesses are shutting down. - everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol _ everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of — everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of the _ everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of the new _ everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of the new times. - everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of the new times. we - everyone who can is leaving. it is a symbol of the new times. we will. everyone who can is leaving. it is a i symbol of the new times. we will be left isolated~ — symbol of the new times. we will be left isolated. [— symbol of the new times. we will be left isolated-— left isolated. i was actually in the cueue left isolated. i was actually in the queue here _ left isolated. i was actually in the queue here 30 — left isolated. i was actually in the queue here 30 -- _ left isolated. i was actually in the queue here 30 -- 32 _ left isolated. i was actually in the queue here 30 -- 32 years - left isolated. i was actually in the queue here 30 -- 32 years ago i left isolated. i was actually in the i queue here 30 -- 32 years ago when queue here 30 —— 32 years ago when mcdonald's first opened. for muscovites, this place was a symbol of russia are opening up to the world, a symbol of easter embracing west. but it feels now that is all gone, and instead russia is increasingly isolated. international brands are vanishing from moscow's shopping centres. but russians have
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less money to spend here anyway. sanctions have because the value of the rouble to plunge. but those who back moscow's onslaught in ukraine, made of them claim they couldn't care less about global corporations disappearing from the russian market. �* , . disappearing from the russian market. �* . ., , market. but when this conflict does end, m market. but when this conflict does end. my fear _ market. but when this conflict does end, my fear will _ market. but when this conflict does end, my fear will never _ market. but when this conflict does end, my fear will never be - market. but when this conflict does end, my fear will never be the - market. but when this conflict does i end, my fear will never be the same. then_ end, my fear will never be the same. then vladimir putin came to power in which a than 20 years ago he promised russian security and stability. today his arm is suffering losses in ukraine. the economy here are suffering from sanctions, and russia is facing growing international isolation. that was our russia editor, steve rosenberg. let's pick up on that part of the russian economy suffering from all the sanctions. one man who has a good sense of what that means is vladimir me a lot. he was deputy men energy minister into
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visiting to. he is now an opposition politician. he fled last year before campaigning against vladimir putin. thank you forjoining me on my show. there are growing reports that the water in ukraine has led to shortages of basic items in russia, such as sugar, which of course is widely used in that country. no need to make vodka, for example. its price has gone up by more than 45%. how much is that been notice by ordinary russians and who do they blame? it ordinary russians and who do they blame? . , , ordinary russians and who do they blame? ., , , ., . ordinary russians and who do they blame? .,, , ., . ., blame? it has been noticed. however, it is 'ust blame? it has been noticed. however, it is just the — blame? it has been noticed. however, it is just the beginning _ blame? it has been noticed. however, it isjust the beginning of— blame? it has been noticed. however, it isjust the beginning of a _ blame? it has been noticed. however, it isjust the beginning of a stop - blame? it has been noticed. however, it isjust the beginning of a stop i - it isjust the beginning of a stop i think the basic shortages we have are mostly a result of consumer panic. when there were reports yet that might be empty shelves in stores, theyjust rushed and made excessive purchases of daily
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products wassup however, the worst is yet to come. because the basic supply chains are disrupted, logistics are disrupted. russian producers of food and other daily products are basically very dependent on intermediary goods, components, technologies, whatever. i would say that what we have seen so far is just the very early stage. there is more to come. however they raised the alarm very much, we are not yet on the territory to attribute blame specifically to somebody. this is very alarming, we haven't seen anything like it in 30 years. haven't seen anything like it in 30 ears. ~ ., ., , , haven't seen anything like it in 30 ears. . ., ., , , years. what do the consumers do? basicall , years. what do the consumers do? basically. what _ years. what do the consumers do? basically, what happens _ years. what do the consumers do? basically, what happens if - years. what do the consumers do? basically, what happens if and - years. what do the consumers do? | basically, what happens if and when they can't afford their basic extensions? i they can't afford their basic extensions?— they can't afford their basic extensions? ~' �* , ,., extensions? i think we'll see some real shortages. _ extensions? i think we'll see some real shortages, we _ extensions? i think we'll see some real shortages, we will— extensions? i think we'll see some real shortages, we will see - extensions? i think we'll see some | real shortages, we will see sharper price rises in april, may, june and further down the summer. which means that russians will have too
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seriously adjust their consumer basket, basic supplies, and living standards also will seriously deteriorate. in standards also will seriously deteriorate.— standards also will seriously deteriorate. in five of the last eiuht deteriorate. in five of the last eight years. _ deteriorate. in five of the last eight years, the _ deteriorate. in five of the last eight years, the real - deteriorate. in five of the last eight years, the real incomes| deteriorate. in five of the last i eight years, the real incomes of russian people have fallen. in 2020, the average russian had around 11% less to spend than they did in 2013. i'm wondering, how much if thread is that you vladimir putin? that i'm wondering, how much if thread is that you vladimir putin?— that you vladimir putin? that is a si . nificant that you vladimir putin? that is a significant threat. _ that you vladimir putin? that is a significant threat. before - that you vladimir putin? that is a significant threat. before the - significant threat. before the invasion of ukraine, you probably saw due to an's approval ratings were historically low. —— putin mac's approval ratings. that is something he has never experienced in his whole presidential secure. but again the processes in russia are really slow. it takes people time to realise there is a connection between the deterioration of their living standards and government policies. the
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moscow-based _ government policies. the moscow-based think - government policies. the moscow—based think tank, the centre for strategic research, says 2 million jobs are for strategic research, says 2 millionjobs are under for strategic research, says 2 million jobs are under threat as companies pull out. i'm wondering, are russian workers concerned about theirjobs? are russian workers concerned about their “obs? , are russian workers concerned about their'obs? , , ., theirjobs? many people are concerned — theirjobs? many people are concerned about _ theirjobs? many people are concerned about losing - theirjobs? many people are j concerned about losing their theirjobs? many people are - concerned about losing theirjobs concerned about losing their jobs wassup concerned about losing theirjobs wassup i think it is the majority do not realise the severity of the economic situation, and they don't realise they might lose theirjobs very quickly. i think the loss of 2 millionjobs isjust a very quickly. i think the loss of 2 million jobs is just a very mild estimate, to see the very least. for instance, when i spoke about destruction of the man for more expensive goods, that is bad news for a lot of businesses working in russia. what i said essentially, is that people will stop going to fitness clubs, catholics or restaurants. theyjust eat basic foods at home. this is what we saw seven, eight years ago when a
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similar price rises are broke out. so, small businesses out on the verge of destruction.— so, small businesses out on the verge of destruction. even a survey of russia's — verge of destruction. even a survey of russia's own _ verge of destruction. even a survey of russia's own central _ verge of destruction. even a survey of russia's own central bank, - verge of destruction. even a survey of russia's own central bank, if - of russia's own central bank, if forecasted russia shrinking by 8% this year. other estimates are at nearly double that. what does that mean you for your country?- mean you for your country? again, these estimates _ mean you for your country? again, these estimates are _ mean you for your country? again, these estimates are preliminary i mean you for your country? again, | these estimates are preliminary and mild, we might find yourself in worse territory. i also think it is very hard to make these comparisons with the absence of a real rouble exchange rate. we will be in the territory of a double—digit launch. it is actually much worse than the 90s, this will have an impact on the structural integrity of putin's system, also on the opinion of russian elites. they are the ones who will suffer terribly from the situation. they basically have nowhere else to go, there is no
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prospect to grow and develop. they are also being cut off from the international community, so that will be a very severe blow, something unseen even in the 80s and the 90s. $5 something unseen even in the 80s and the 90s. �* , something unseen even in the 80s and the 90s. . , ,, ., . ., the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing _ the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing what _ the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing what i _ the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing what i can _ the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing what i can to - the 90s. as we know, much of the world is doing what i can to wean i world is doing what i can to wean itself off russian energy, basically refusing to buy russian oil and gas. as a former deputy energy minister, can you explain to us just how important that money is to the russian economy?— important that money is to the russian economy? that is extremely im ortant. russian economy? that is extremely important- just _ russian economy? that is extremely important. just the _ russian economy? that is extremely important. just the cash _ russian economy? that is extremely important. just the cash flows - russian economy? that is extremely important. just the cash flows from i important. just the cash flows from the export of natural gas to europe is about 400 million euros a day. that is like every two and a half days, 1 billion euros comes into putin's pockets. that is extremely helpful for putin to continue to keep your system running, to continue to finance the war. with
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the extreme rise of energy prices of late, that also miss the flow of hard currency to putin's pockets. this is why all as at the moment our focus on the potential oil and gas embargo by the european union. if they would cut off this currency flow, that would be a very severe blow to thank mike and his policies. however, while cash continues to arrive on russia's accounts, that is arrive on russia's accounts, that is a reassuring factor for putin and his elites, that they will continue to finance the war, to resupply the army, to launch another offensive in donbas, whatever. so this issue of energy embargo is vital. once his energy embargo is vital. once his energy flow is disrupted, putin will have to rethink its policy because he will not have resources to finance further aggression. fin he will not have resources to finance further aggression. on that note, finance further aggression. on that note. vladimir— finance further aggression. on that note, vladimir milov, _ finance further aggression. on that note, vladimir milov, i— finance further aggression. on that note, vladimir milov, i really - note, vladimir milov, i really appreciate your time. thank you for
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joining me, good luck with everything. let's lay with the changes to russia's economy. what do they mean inside the kremlin? just how much to the influence president putin has mike thinking? from 2000 due to his andrey illarionov was present putin's chief economic adviser. he nowjoins me from washington. in 2015, president putin famously said our sovereignty is not up famously said our sovereignty is not up for sale, famously said our sovereignty is not upforsale, and famously said our sovereignty is not up for sale, and applying a financial cost will not prevent him from claiming territory that he considers to be his. how much does this dominate his thinking. for considers to be his. how much does this dominate his thinking.- this dominate his thinking. for the last 40 days _ this dominate his thinking. for the last 40 days or— this dominate his thinking. for the last 40 days or so, _ this dominate his thinking. for the last 40 days or so, especially - last 40 days or so, especially during — last 40 days or so, especially during the latest stage of president putin's_ during the latest stage of president putin's war against ukraine, we have learned _ putin's war against ukraine, we have learned for—
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putin's war against ukraine, we have learned for putin his imperial ambitions are much more important than anything else, including the livelihood of the russian population, the national situation in the _ population, the national situation in the country. even the financial state _ in the country. even the financial state of — in the country. even the financial state of his— in the country. even the financial state of his government.- in the country. even the financial state of his government. over the ast few state of his government. over the past few years. — state of his government. over the past few years, president - state of his government. over the past few years, president putin i state of his government. over the l past few years, president putin has repeatedly tried to raise spending on social welfare. he said in 2019, there are too many poor people, we should focus our attention on fighting this phenomenon. does he regard us as important to maintain his grip on power, or is itjust words he feels he needs to say? ladle words he feels he needs to say? we cannot exclude, initially come in at the first— cannot exclude, initially come in at the first years in office he was very— the first years in office he was very serious about keeping the living _ very serious about keeping the living standards of the population. but it _ living standards of the population. but it looks like that is not the goal— but it looks like that is not the goal any— but it looks like that is not the goal any more with him. since he has
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embarked _ goal any more with him. since he has embarked on — goal any more with him. since he has embarked on this imperial, the problem — embarked on this imperial, the problem of imperial conquerors. it looks— problem of imperial conquerors. it looks like — problem of imperial conquerors. it looks like he is completely not interested in economics, economic policy, _ interested in economics, economic policy, or— interested in economics, economic policy, or in— interested in economics, economic policy, or in living standards of the russian population was up around 20 million _ the russian population was up around 20 million russians live below the poverty— 20 million russians live below the poverty line. in 20 million russians live below the poverty line-— 20 million russians live below the ove line. ::'j~ , , poverty line. in 2018, present putin romised poverty line. in 2018, present putin promised to — poverty line. in 2018, present putin promised to have _ poverty line. in 2018, present putin promised to have that _ poverty line. in 2018, present putin promised to have that number- poverty line. in 2018, present putin promised to have that number by l promised to have that number by 2024. does all this war and what it is costing, or that prevent that? in terms of those numbers, we may see the number— terms of those numbers, we may see the number of those people doubling, no bead _ the number of those people doubling, no bead tripling. the resources on the russian — no bead tripling. the resources on the russian state and business to sustain— the russian state and business to sustain the population is actually pretty— sustain the population is actually pretty limited. has sustain the population is actually pretty limited-— sustain the population is actually pretty limited. has there been too much of a focus _ pretty limited. has there been too much of a focus on _ pretty limited. has there been too much of a focus on perceived - much of a focus on perceived external threats over internal
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problems? and has it always been that way for him? bill problems? and has it always been that way for him?— that way for him? all this talk of external threats _ that way for him? all this talk of external threats are _ that way for him? all this talk of external threats are absolutely i external threats are absolutely baseless. this is completely baseless. this is completely baseless. in the whole world, nobody threatens _ baseless. in the whole world, nobody threatens russia today. russia is a hi i threatens russia today. russia is a big country. — threatens russia today. russia is a big country, it has some substantial economic— big country, it has some substantial economic potential, it is the largest— economic potential, it is the largest country in the world by territory — largest country in the world by territory. it is a pretty big country _ territory. it is a pretty big country by population. it has nuclear— country by population. it has nuclear weapons. country by population. it has nuclearweapons. nobody country by population. it has nuclear weapons. nobody in the world is threatening russia without sovereignty, with its territorial integrity — sovereignty, with its territorial inteuri . ~ sovereignty, with its territorial inteuri .~ ., , ., ., integrity. where does the oil and as fit integrity. where does the oil and gas fit into _ integrity. where does the oil and gas fit into president _ integrity. where does the oil and gas fit into president putin - integrity. where does the oil and gas fit into president putin has i gas fit into president putin has mike thinking? i'm wondering, does he have any concern that pushing away customers will simply undermine his other ambitions?— his other ambitions? looks as though he does not — his other ambitions? looks as though he does not take _ his other ambitions? looks as though he does not take seriously _ his other ambitions? looks as though he does not take seriously all - his other ambitions? looks as though he does not take seriously all the - he does not take seriously all the discussions in the western countries
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that the _ discussions in the western countries that the west could cut off itself from _ that the west could cut off itself from the — that the west could cut off itself from the russian oil and gas. even in these _ from the russian oil and gas. even in these first weeks of his invasion against _ in these first weeks of his invasion against ukraine, european countries keep consuming and keep on importing russian _ keep consuming and keep on importing russian oil— keep consuming and keep on importing russian oil and gas. but i would say that if— russian oil and gas. but i would say that if the _ russian oil and gas. but i would say that if the western countries without _ that if the western countries without an ounce and tried to implement real embargo on oil and -as implement real embargo on oil and gas exports from russia. i would bet that probably within months, russian military— that probably within months, russian military operation in ukraine probably— military operation in ukraine probably will be stopped. so that is why it _ probably will be stopped. so that is why it is _ probably will be stopped. so that is why it is one of the very effective instruments are still in the position— instruments are still in the position of western countries. what will it need or _ position of western countries. what will it need or take _ position of western countries. what will it need or take for— position of western countries. twat will it need or take for russia position of western countries. “its“isgt will it need or take for russia to
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be reintegrated into the global economy? is it going to take a new president? is economy? is it going to take a new resident? , ., , , , , president? is absolutely impossible to have any positive _ president? is absolutely impossible to have any positive future - president? is absolutely impossible to have any positive future for- to have any positive future for russia — to have any positive future for russia with the current political regime — russia with the current political regime. there is no way the country might— regime. there is no way the country might be _ regime. there is no way the country might be integrated back into international relations, in the world — international relations, in the world economy. even in normal communications with the rest of the world _ communications with the rest of the world it _ communications with the rest of the world. it will definitely happen sooner— world. it will definitely happen sooner or— world. it will definitely happen sooner or later, there is no other way _ sooner or later, there is no other wa . . ~' sooner or later, there is no other wa . ., ,, y ., sooner or later, there is no other wa. ., ., , ., sooner or later, there is no other way. thank you for sharing your insiahts, way. thank you for sharing your insights, andrey _ way. thank you for sharing your insights, andrey illarionov. - way. thank you for sharing your l insights, andrey illarionov. thank you forjoining me. before the war in ukraine, is home grown air lying, skyup, was perhaps best known for its radical decision to abandon skirts and high heels for the uniform forfemale skirts and high heels for the uniform for female flight attendants. before only starting flying four years ago, it was hoping
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to carry 3.5 million passengers this year as ukrainians“ appetite for international travel sword. i caught up international travel sword. i caught up with the airline's chief commercial officer. thank you so much forjoining me, i am sorry it is under these circumstances. given the immense dangers of flying anywhere with in ukrainian airspace, are you operating any services at all at the moment?— are you operating any services at all at the moment? thank you for the o- ortuni all at the moment? thank you for the opportunity to — all at the moment? thank you for the opportunity to be _ all at the moment? thank you for the opportunity to be here. _ all at the moment? thank you for the opportunity to be here. in _ all at the moment? thank you for the opportunity to be here. in the - opportunity to be here. in the meantime, a special order it was announced that aircraft should be grounded immediately on february 24. after this order was issued,... will still have operational activities within poland, romania and moldova.
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apart from one aircraft, you moved all of your fleet out of ukraine? yes, exactly. we move them out of ukraine due to a lesser insurance and our own efforts. we ukraine due to a lesser insurance and our own efforts.— ukraine due to a lesser insurance and our own efforts. we know that s u- and our own efforts. we know that skyup planes _ and our own efforts. we know that skyup planes have _ and our own efforts. we know that skyup planes have been _ and our own efforts. we know that skyup planes have been using - skyup planes have been using evacuations. can you tell us how many people you have managed to carry? and where have you been flying from and to? we carry? and where have you been flying from and to?— carry? and where have you been flying from and to? we have carried around 4000 _ flying from and to? we have carried around 4000 people _ flying from and to? we have carried around 4000 people already, - flying from and to? we have carried around 4000 people already, all. flying from and to? we have carried around 4000 people already, all of| around 4000 people already, all of them are refugees. we are really grateful to aviation authorities of poland, romania and moldova because they treat us like our second motherland. in different cities, all foreign imports are ready to help. from romania, again, allairports
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are here. namely, people go to... there are now in the process of initiation with uk and sweden. for 5 u, initiation with uk and sweden. for skyup, do you know how much infrastructure has been damaged in these russian attacks? whether it is aircraft themselves or airports. for sure, we aircraft themselves or airports. fr?“ sure, we know, but for confidential reasons we don't want to provide any details. we canjust reasons we don't want to provide any details. we can just underline the airports are almost destroyed or significantly damaged. immediately after the war, it would be finished, it will be done a special audit for our airfields, for our equipment, for airport infrastructure. honestly speaking, one of the main issues for us now is who will pay for
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repairing? aviation and everything costs a fortune. really, we need a plan for aviation in ukraine in order to start operations at the day after the war. order to start operations at the day after the war-— after the war. skyup is relatively new to providing _ after the war. skyup is relatively new to providing a _ after the war. skyup is relatively new to providing a cargo - after the war. skyup is relativelyj new to providing a cargo service. after the war. skyup is relatively i new to providing a cargo service. i believe you only started operating at this time last year. when at the war is over, do you expect the cargo side of your business to increase significantly given the restocking and rebuilding efforts that are going to be needed in your country? we had a started work with cargo during covid times. we had flights from china to ukraine with masks, medicines. now we modify due to war efforts to cargo modification. when the water stops for sure... first of all, we will continue with our cargo service. we made a decision we would
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increase our fleet because we have huge experience in this.— huge experience in this. skyup has a- ealed huge experience in this. skyup has appealed to _ huge experience in this. skyup has appealed to other— huge experience in this. skyup has appealed to other airlines - huge experience in this. skyup has appealed to other airlines to - huge experience in this. skyup has appealed to other airlines to make | appealed to other airlines to make use of your aircraft and your staff. is that correct and why have you done that?— is that correct and why have you done that? , _, ., ., . ., done that? the second hour aircraft, honestly speaking, _ done that? the second hour aircraft, honestly speaking, is _ done that? the second hour aircraft, honestly speaking, is in _ done that? the second hour aircraft, honestly speaking, is in the - done that? the second hour aircraft, honestly speaking, is in the same i honestly speaking, is in the same position. we have support from the lessor is, is really important for us. we don't have to return aircraft about some of them may be returned. for this reason, if you have some three equipment. these are bound during summer is really high in aviation. we are ready to take some jobs from other airlines. we have many requests from around the world. on that positive note, i really
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appreciate your time. stay safe, good luck with everything and i would love to talk to you soon. that is all from this week's show, i hope you have enjoyed it. don't forget, you have enjoyed it. don't forget, you can keep up to date on the war in ukraine and how it is impacting the global economy on the bbc website and also on the smartphone app. thanks for watching, i“ll website and also on the smartphone app. thanks for watching, i'll see you soon, bye—bye. hello there. still disappointingly chilly for this time of year this weekend, anotherfirst chilly for this time of year this weekend, another first to come
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tonight. there will be some sunshine through the rest of the weekend, much of the country actually staying dry eventually cloud will come in from the atlantic, it will arrive in some western areas during tomorrow, and will bring some rain early next week. we have seen some showers coming into merseyside and into lancashire. a scattering of showers also across other parts of england and wales, northern ireland, the bulk of the heavy once across northern parts of scotland where they are wintry in the hills. it gets cold quickly overnight, showers going in love in parts of scotland. clear skies elsewhere, light winds, another cold night. temperatures coming down to —4 or —5. not quite so cold around some western coast. more cloud in the morning and the breeze picking up. sunny that further east. like today, cloud will bubble up, but few showers around at
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all. more cloud into the afternoon, the breeze picks up in western areas, temperatures should be a couple of degrees higher than today, typically 12 celsius or so. some significant changes as we head into next week. this is the pressure pattern, low pressure out to the west, head of it went out picking up, and signs of rain pushing into western parts of the uk. it will not be as cold to start on monday, some sunshine around, but up to start on monday, some sunshine around, but out toward the south—west, wales and northern ireland, there could be heavy bursts of rain, possibly thundery, and they will slowly move their way eastwards. temperatures gradually getting up to 17 degrees in the south—east of england. it has been cold for quite a while now, but early next week that cold air will be replaced by some warmer air because the wind direction will change. instead of the lorelie we have at the moment, it will be a southerly breeze, letting loose temperatures to perhaps 19 degrees
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this is bbc news — welcome if you're watching here in the uk or around the globe. i“m annita mcveigh. our top stories... ten humanitarian corridors are agreed to help thousands of ukrainians flee the war. one is providing an escape from mariupol, which has been described as "hell on earth". moscow re—organises its military leadership in ukraine. general alexander dvornikov — who commanded russian forces in syria — is given overall charge. the brutal story of one family trying to flee from chernihiv north of the capital kyiv — we have a special report angry scenes in pakistan's parliament between supporters and opponents of the prime minister, imran khan, ahead of a vote of no confidence.
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