this is bbc news, the headlines... armoured vehicles and new missiles — borisjohnson pledges more support to ukraine after talks with president zelensky in kyiv. there is a huge amount to do to make sure that ukraine is successful, that ukraine wins, and that putin must fail. this evening pakistan's prime minister imran khan has been ousted by the opposition after losing a vote of no confidence. campaigning has ended in the first round of france's presidential election, which takes place on sunday. and mission accomplished,

as the first all private astronaut team ever launched to the international space station, completes docking. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are author and journalist yasmin alibhai—brown and political commentator and former conservative party press chief giles kenningham. thank you to you both as we look at tomorrow's front day pages.

tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the sunday telegraph has a picture from borisjohnson�*s trip to kyiv, where he met volodymyr zelensky. the paper says nato is drawing up plans to deploy a full time military presence on ukraine's border. similar image on the observer, which focuses on the military aid pledged to ukraine by the prime minister. and a victim ofjeffrey epstein is calling on prince andrew to prove that he will help victims of sexual abuse. so, let's begin... thank you to you both. yasmin and gilesjoining us today. let's thank you to you both. yasmin and giles joining us today. let's start with the sunday telegraph and, the observer, rather, and we do have that meeting between borisjohnson and volodymyr zelensky, quite a surprise. giles, the uk are sending more military vehicles, more missiles, more aid, how much of a

difference will that make? certainly a surrise difference will that make? certainly a surprise visit, _ difference will that make? certainly a surprise visit, as _ difference will that make? certainly a surprise visit, as you _ difference will that make? certainly a surprise visit, as you say, - difference will that make? certainly a surprise visit, as you say, which l a surprise visit, as you say, which has made the front pages of most of the papers this evening. boris johnson has pledged 120 ahmed vehicles, anti—missile defences, as well as backing a huge loan from the royal bank. certainly showing great leadership here. you have had the head of nato come out tonight and say he hopes that other countries of europe follow britain's lead, and i suppose the one country that sticks out there is germany of a timid response to between sending missiles which would be used for defence and those that might be nato had said rethink and transform their role in the light of what and there is a

growing russia and china. yes, a good move, johnson was very hard on his rhetoric, calling great to see him standing shoulder to yasmin, borisjohnson was very hard on the rhetoric but the ukrainians have been asking for action, we have seen the security situation around the capital stabilised but in the east, there is still very much a problem. yes, and i mean, the situation is unpredictable, and volatile, and putin. _ unpredictable, and volatile, and putin. who _ unpredictable, and volatile, and putin, who haven't done as well has he thought— putin, who haven't done as well has he thought he would, i think he thought— he thought he would, i think he thought it — he thought he would, i think he thought it would be a walkover, is getting _ thought it would be a walkover, is getting increasingly desperate and, you know. — getting increasingly desperate and, you know, the russian armies are behaving — you know, the russian armies are behaving atrociously. but i think one has— behaving atrociously. but i think one has to — behaving atrociously. but i think one has to remember this, you know, boris _ one has to remember this, you know, borisjohhsoh — one has to remember this, you know, borisjohnson did his thing, he turned — borisjohnson did his thing, he turned up. _ borisjohnson did his thing, he turned up, he has always wanted to

be this— turned up, he has always wanted to be this great leader, and in very pleased — be this great leader, and in very pleased that we are supporting the ukrainians with weapons but we are not, ukrainians with weapons but we are hot. hot _ ukrainians with weapons but we are not, not doing anything much at all for you _ not, not doing anything much at all for you training refugees. so, not, not doing anything much at all foryou training refugees. so, our rhetoric— foryou training refugees. so, our rhetoric does not match the promises, and actually some ukrainians have actually given up in disgust _ ukrainians have actually given up in disgust at _ ukrainians have actually given up in disgust at how hard it is to get the film disgust at how hard it is to get the right to _ disgust at how hard it is to get the right to come here as refugees. and, secondly, _ right to come here as refugees. and, secondly, it— right to come here as refugees. and, secondly, it is nato... boris johnson _ secondly, it is nato... boris johnson is _ secondly, it is nato... boris johnson is not nato. nato, thankfully, is beginning to wake up and taking — thankfully, is beginning to wake up and taking a tough stand. how much that will— and taking a tough stand. how much that will work to dissuade or stop putin— that will work to dissuade or stop putin i_ that will work to dissuade or stop putin i don't know. you that will work to dissuade or stop putin i don't know.— putin i don't know. you have mentioned — putin i don't know. you have mentioned nato _ putin i don't know. you have mentioned nato there, - putin i don't know. you have i mentioned nato there, yasmin, putin i don't know. you have - mentioned nato there, yasmin, that brings us neatly to our next paper, the sunday telegraph, and full—scale nato military force to defend borders, that is the headline. so,

nato is looking at a fundamental transformation around the border, yasmin, if you could just follow up with that. yasmin, if you could 'ust follow up with that. , ., , with that. yes, that is right. it has been _ with that. yes, that is right. it has been pretty _ with that. yes, that is right. it has been pretty note, - with that. yes, that is right. it has been pretty note, i - with that. yes, that is right. it has been pretty note, i think, | with that. yes, that is right. it. has been pretty note, i think, for some _ has been pretty note, i think, for some years _ has been pretty note, i think, for some years. there was a thing called nato but _ some years. there was a thing called nato but who knew what it was doing? and as _ nato but who knew what it was doing? and as the _ nato but who knew what it was doing? and as the russian bear grew bigger and bolder, they seemed to be... i rememher— and bolder, they seemed to be... i remember the and bolder, they seemed to be... i rememberthe part and bolder, they seemed to be... i remember the part played by bill clinton _ remember the part played by bill clinton in — remember the part played by bill clinton in nato to stop what happened, eventually, in bosnia. and, _ happened, eventually, in bosnia. and. you — happened, eventually, in bosnia. and, you know, this very much atrocities— and, you know, this very much atrocities remind me of those times. it atrocities remind me of those times. it was _ atrocities remind me of those times. it was actually bill clinton who made — it was actually bill clinton who made them take action. but since then there — made them take action. but since then there has been this inertia and so i then there has been this inertia and so i am _ then there has been this inertia and so i am glad — then there has been this inertia and so i am glad there is a kind of waidng— so i am glad there is a kind of waking up— so i am glad there is a kind of waking up of the need to do something and to be properly relevant _ something and to be properly relevant to the needs of europe. so,

yeah. _ relevant to the needs of europe. so, yeah. i_ relevant to the needs of europe. so, yeah. i hope — relevant to the needs of europe. so, yeah, i hope that works.— yeah, i hope that works. giles, there is a _ yeah, i hope that works. giles, there is a mention _ yeah, i hope that works. giles, there is a mention of _ yeah, i hope that works. giles, there is a mention of china, . yeah, i hope that works. giles, there is a mention of china, as| there is a mention of china, as well, isn't there? that the threat from china would be enshrined into nato's strategic concept, what does that mean? i nato's strategic concept, what does that mean? ., �* ~ ., that mean? i don't know the intricacies — that mean? i don't know the intricacies but _ that mean? i don't know the intricacies but in _ that mean? i don't know the intricacies but in essence - that mean? i don't know the intricacies but in essence it i that mean? i don't know the | intricacies but in essence it is saying it is going to become a priority, a huge consideration, and it comes in light of the fact that nato believes an intelligence has shown that there is a growing alliance between china and russia, there is cooperation going on there. obviously, china has been quite careful in its rhetoric during the war not to come out and fully condemn russia. analyse between two superpowers like those two, who haven't got western interests at heart, would be incredible dangerous. yes, on one level, this seems like a positive intervention,

this interview with the telegraph, it does feel like they have been asleep at the wheel, but that that they are waking up. all pressure from different directions on putin is a good thing. they are saying they are going to put a strong military presence on the border with latvia and estonia, we have to question why it has not already been done. also in this interview, we see that stoltenberg says he is going to ensure that other nato members commit 2% of their gdp on defence spending which the uk does. but once again you sort of thing, it raises questions why he has to do that, really, but, you know, all in all, i suppose a positive development. and suppose a positive development. and this is certainly not, i suppose, the effects that president putin was intending to create, more cooperation among the eu within nato. yasmin?—

cooperation among the eu within nato. yasmin? , , nato. yasmin? yes. remember there are nations — nato. yasmin? yes. remember there are nations within _ nato. yasmin? yes. remember there are nations within the _ nato. yasmin? yes. remember there are nations within the eu, _ nato. yasmin? yes. remember there are nations within the eu, like - are nations within the eu, like hungary, _ are nations within the eu, like hungary, which are quite abominably supporting _ hungary, which are quite abominably supporting everything putin is doing — supporting everything putin is doing. and in a way you have to see this as _ doing. and in a way you have to see this as a _ doing. and in a way you have to see this as a kind — doing. and in a way you have to see this as a kind of huge conflict between _ this as a kind of huge conflict between liberal democracies and its values _ between liberal democracies and its values and — between liberal democracies and its values and those who espouse far more _ values and those who espouse far more dictatorial intolerant oppressive politics. so, i hope, i really— oppressive politics. so, i hope, i really hope — oppressive politics. so, i hope, i really hope that the eu takes action against _ really hope that the eu takes action against hungary, particularly, since the president won the election. i think— the president won the election. i think we — the president won the election. i think we have to accept this as a new cold — think we have to accept this as a new cold war, and i think we should also he _ new cold war, and i think we should also be asking questions, nato should — also be asking questions, nato should be asking questions of some of our— should be asking questions of some of our close — should be asking questions of some of our close allies like india,

which — of our close allies like india, which has _ of our close allies like india, which has not openly take on the side of— which has not openly take on the side of the — which has not openly take on the side of the west on this and in round — side of the west on this and in round khan, who thankfully hasjust been ousted, standing next to put in the day— been ousted, standing next to put in the day they invaded and said this is such— the day they invaded and said this is such a — the day they invaded and said this is such a great adventure. so, there are other— is such a great adventure. so, there are other countries that need to be kind of. _ are other countries that need to be kind of. you — are other countries that need to be kind of, you know, macro i'm interested _ kind of, you know, macro i'm interested to hear what you think about— interested to hear what you think about that, giles, do you see what is playing — about that, giles, do you see what is playing out as a tussle between autocracy— is playing out as a tussle between autocracy and democracy? not is playing out as a tussle between autocracy and democracy? not 'ust in euro -e but autocracy and democracy? not 'ust in europe but around i autocracy and democracy? not 'ust in europe but around the i autocracy and democracy? not 'ust in europe but around the world? h autocracy and democracy? notjust in europe but around the world? yes, . autocracy and democracy? notjust in europe but around the world? yes, i | europe but around the world? yes, i think the world _ europe but around the world? yes, i think the world has _ europe but around the world? yes, i think the world has fundamentally i think the world has fundamentally changed. one commentator described it as almost a 9/11 moment where the world orderfundamentally it as almost a 9/11 moment where the world order fundamentally was turned on its head and yes, i think yasmin is right, we need to fundamentally rethink the way we do things, we need to be re—examining alliances in the world, and i think also within this, the foreign office needs to fundamentally think and rethink about its role. it is very quick to say we will do everything behind

closed doors, leave it to the quiet doors of diplomacy but that often doesn't work so i actually want to see them take more of a vocal and strident position in the world. and we should full out naked aggression where we see it, what i think in the past, sometimes, you know, we have been to potentially timid to do that and it is always alight, let the diplomatic conversations happen behind closed doors but clearly what has happened shows that sometimes this doesn't fundamentally work. let's bring it back to focusing on the uk. look at the observer, and rishi sunak in the spotlight, this says his hopes of becoming pm are over, according to top tories. yasmin, do you think that is an overstatement?— yasmin, do you think that is an overstatement? no, i don't think it is an overstatement. _ overstatement? no, i don't think it is an overstatement. i _ overstatement? no, i don't think it is an overstatement. i think - overstatement? no, i don't think it is an overstatement. i think that i is an overstatement. i think that nothing — is an overstatement. i think that nothing is — is an overstatement. i think that nothing is impossible with this tory party, _ nothing is impossible with this tory party, this— nothing is impossible with this tory party, this tory government, which is very—

party, this tory government, which is very different from other previous— is very different from other previous tory governments that we have had _ previous tory governments that we have had but i think this scandal, like partygate has really stirred something in the population. that old feeling of one rule for them and one rule _ old feeling of one rule for them and one rule for— old feeling of one rule for them and one rule for that —— for us. how inexplicably_ one rule for that —— for us. how inexplicably cut off were rishi sunak— inexplicably cut off were rishi sunak and his wife from the real world _ sunak and his wife from the real world to — sunak and his wife from the real world to think this was ok, him having — world to think this was ok, him having a — world to think this was ok, him having a green card from the usa, she continuing to have non—dons status _ she continuing to have non—dons status. little tax being paid. i am surprised — status. little tax being paid. i am surprised at the naivety of the two of them _ surprised at the naivety of the two of them on — surprised at the naivety of the two of them on these matters, but the very rich— of them on these matters, but the very rich live in their own universe, _ very rich live in their own universe, don't they? well, i wouldn't _ universe, don't they? well, i wouldn't know. _ universe, don't they? well, i wouldn't know. but - universe, don't they? well, i wouldn't know. but giles, i universe, don't they? well, i - wouldn't know. but giles, coming to you, i am interested to hear what you, i am interested to hear what you have to say about this because you have to say about this because

you were formally at number ten, involved in press matters, so do you think that this is as it has been described in some quarters of a death spiral of two leading figures of the conservative party losing respect of the voters.— of the conservative party losing respect of the voters. firstly, this idea that rishi _ respect of the voters. firstly, this idea that rishi sunak _ respect of the voters. firstly, this idea that rishi sunak would - respect of the voters. firstly, this i idea that rishi sunak would succeed borisjohnson has been overblown by the media. before the spotlight was shown on him, it wasn't about on that he was going to take over, actually, lots of pockets of the party say that they are quite split on rishi sunak, there was an idea that he was intellectually arrogant. remember, if there is... i don't except this narrative that it is justjohnson, rishi sunak or others,

there are very capable members in there are very capable members in the cabinet, the northern ireland secretary and the education secretary and the education secretary are two that come to mind. clearly, this hasn't been his finest hour and i think that, you know, as ever with these things, transparency is, you know, the best sunlight to shine on things. but i would just say on this note of caution is that whilst full transparency, there is a danger of tipping into the politics of envy, by saying people cannot be successful in a previous life, they can't have well. the pool of people can't have well. the pool of people can enter politics is already very narrow and if you continue to have this line, it will be even more narrow, and you will not get mps in parliament who are having experience or our representative. that parliament who are having experience or our representative.— or our representative. that is an interesting _ or our representative. that is an interesting point, _ or our representative. that is an interesting point, i _ or our representative. that is an interesting point, i am - or our representative. that is an interesting point, i am sure - or our representative. that is an i interesting point, i am sure yasmin will have a lot to say about that but i am going to switch us to

france because marine le pen has got an unexpected election boost from young people, yasmin. i am young people, yasmin. i am incredibly — young people, yasmin. i am incredibly surprised - young people, yasmin. i am incredibly surprised and i young people, yasmin. lam incredibly surprised and disturbed by this _ incredibly surprised and disturbed by this. but she has done something very clever. — by this. but she has done something very clever, she has completely cleansed — very clever, she has completely cleansed her past. there is a picture — cleansed her past. there is a picture of— cleansed her past. there is a picture of her shaking hands with putin— picture of her shaking hands with putin not— picture of her shaking hands with putin not that long ago, she has cleansed — putin not that long ago, she has cleansed the overt racism and xenophobia and attacks on muslims that she _ xenophobia and attacks on muslims that she and her dad were famous for. that she and her dad were famous for~ she _ that she and her dad were famous for. she has become this kind of cleansed — for. she has become this kind of cleansed different kind of political public _ cleansed different kind of political public presence but i am surprised that young — public presence but i am surprised that young people are attracted because — that young people are attracted because she is still a nationalist in the _ because she is still a nationalist in the worst sense of the word in that france — in the worst sense of the word in that france belongs to the french in the way— that france belongs to the french in the way that she's defines it. so, i am really— the way that she's defines it. so, i am really surprised and really upset by that _ am really surprised and really upset bythat~ l�*ll— am really surprised and really upset b that. �* , , , am really surprised and really upset by that-_ are i by that. i'll let giles “ump in. are ou by that. i'll let giles “ump in. are you equauy h by that. i'll let gilesjump in. are

you equally surprised? _ by that. i'll let gilesjump in. are you equally surprised? yes, i by that. i'll let gilesjump in. are you equally surprised? yes, it i by that. i'll let gilesjump in. are you equally surprised? yes, it is| you equally surprised? yes, it is surprising, although