tv Breakfast BBC News April 12, 2022 6:00am-9:01am BST
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good morning, and welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today: russia is investigated for the use of chemical weapons in mariupol. british foreign secretary liz truss warns if true, vladimir putin will be held to account. anger as a conservative mp defends fellow politician imran ahmad khan, who has been convicted of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. johnny depp's legal battle with former wife amber heard has begun in the united states over allegations made by the actress about domestic abuse. we catch up with harry and harley — the most premature twins to survive in the uk a month after they left hospital.
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what the numbers don't tell you — later this morning we're expected to learn that unemployment�*s falling, and wages are rising but set against rocketing costs — are we really any better off? i'll take a look. as england edge closer to world cup qualification. northern ireland stand in their way. still unbeaten in this campaign, a win for the lionesses in belfast tonight would all but secure their place at the tournament next year. good morning. yesterday temperatures at heathrow reached 19 degrees. today they could be higher. for all of us from tomorrow, you will notice the temperature is going up, mean it will net necessarily be dry all the time. i will have the details throughout this morning's programme. it's tuesday the 12th april. our main story... the us and uk governments are investigating reports that chemical weapons have been used by russia in the ukrainian port of mariupol. a ukrainian paramilitary group claimed russian troops used a drone
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to deploy an unknown substance in the besieged city last night. mark lobel reports. a playground turned battleground in ukraine's east, where pro—russian troops claim to be liberating ukrainians held hostage. ukraine says russian tanks have begun advancing towards the eastern donbas region for a renewed offensive. as battle rages in the besieged city of mariupol, ukraine's azov regiment say russian drones have dropped chemicals causing breathing problems and vertigo—like symptoms after a pro—russian military spokesman threatened smoking out ukrainian defenders of a major steel plant there. translation: today, the occupiers issued a new statement _ which testifies to their preparation for a new stage of terror against ukraine and our defenders. one of the mouthpieces of the occupiers stated
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that they could use chemical weapons against the defenders of mariupol. we take this as seriously as possible. i want to remind the world's leaders that the possible use of chemical weapons by the russian military has already been discussed. as britain's foreign secretary seeks to verify the claims, she says putin would be held to account for any callous escalation of this conflict. as the war approaches its eighth week, ukraine's deputy prime minister claims more than 500 female ukrainian civilians are in russian prisons. translation: they shave their heads. they check them every day, forcing them to undress and get naked. they humiliate their human dignity. i know facts of rape, i saw spines that had been beaten. so we have to act. we have to be strong and durable.
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we need to understand that the absolute evil is working against us. it's the evil that feeds on weakness. a mother's reaction as her son's body is recovered in front of her eyes close to kiev. explosion. hundreds more small, explosive devices are being discovered in residential areas such as here in kharkiv, landing as people sleep. in this relentless war where the fighting never stops. mark lobel bbc news. our correspondent danjohnson is in the western city of lviv. if these allegations are correct, it marks a significant moment in this
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conflict? , , ., . ., conflict? yes, these are unconfirmed re orts of conflict? yes, these are unconfirmed reports of the _ conflict? yes, these are unconfirmed reports of the member _ conflict? yes, these are unconfirmed reports of the member something i conflict? yes, these are unconfirmed| reports of the member something the foreign secretary liz truss and others seem to be taking seriously and that is why there is an investigation trying to verify the details of whether this attack take place and whether chemical weapons were used. liz truss said it would be a callous escalation of the conflict, something for which vladimir putin would have to be held to account. the us defence department says it is aware of these reports are killing on social media and it will monitor the situation to establish what has actually happened. president zelensky has warned the russians may be about to use chemical attacks. he didn't specifically refer to this allegation of their use in mariupol, but he has warned his people that sort of escalation may be possible. president zelensky last night also talked about the mines and explosive ordinance withdrawing russian troops had left in other areas of the
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country. we know in places like kharkiv, residents have been warned to avoid anything that looks like explosive material, because there are reports of scattered explosives having been dropped with destructive timers timed for people returning after an air timers timed for people returning afteran air raid timers timed for people returning after an air raid alert or from areas russians have withdrawn from. there are reports of renewed shelling overnight in kharkiv, we know 11 people died and at least 1a people are in hospital. the city has come under repeated bombardment. russia says it is about to take their city, finally completing the offensive it has launched, besieging that city since the start of the offensive. we are seeing in some places have the conflict is intensifying in those eastern cities. that is why so many more people are on the move trying to get to safety. we had this morning that two thirds of the ukrainian children are away from their homes as
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refugees. are away from their homes as refugees-_ are away from their homes as refu~ees. g ., ,., ., ~ i., refugees. 0k, dan johnson, thank you for that undate- _ the conservative mp crispin blunt is facing strong criticism for defending a fellow mp who was found guilty of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. mr blunt said it was an "international scandal" that the wakefield mp, imran ahmad khan, had been expelled from the party following a conviction at southwark crown court yesterday — he's due to be sentenced next week. our chief political correspondent adam fleming is in westminster. adam, what's the reaction been to this so far? quite a few opposition mps have resign from the group looking at issues affecting lesbian, gay, transsexual and trans people. crispin blunt�*s comments have proved controversial. let's see what happens with conservative members of the group throughout the morning. and if they follow those opposition mps. as the conservative party, they trot out a statement last night
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rejecting those comments by crispin blunt and defending the jury system and the independence of the courts. in terms of what happened with imran ahmad khan, his solicitors say he is going to appeal his conviction. in the meantime we wait to see what his sentence is going to be and that will be crucial to his career as an mp. if he gets a sentence of more than a year, he is automatically expeued than a year, he is automatically expelled from the house of commons. if it is less than that then his constituents can't sign something called a recall position. if 10% of the voters in his area decide to sign the petition, that would trigger a by—election. but he would still be able to stand as a candidate. but he would not be standing as a conservative, because as a result of his conviction, he has been thrown out of the conservative party.- has been thrown out of the conservative party. victims of rape and sexual assault are being failed by a collapse in prosecutions and poor provision of support services,
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according to a group of mps. the home affairs committee says the government's plans to improve "lack ambition" — and that it could miss its target, after the number of rape offences recorded in england and wales last year, reached a record high. lauren moss reports. emily hunt has been a campaigner against sexual violence ever since she was filmed while naked and unconscious one night by a man she had onlyjust met. emily advised the uk government on its rape review last year, a review which mps think will miss its targets to improve prosecutions. we have over 120,000 rapes a year in our country and we are not prosecuting enough of them, and too many rapists are going on to do it again. rape is a horrible, intimate crime, and you feel like your life is being pulled apart. and, you know, 50% of rape victims develop ptsd and... i don't really think that anyone can really understand what it feels like to have your control so completely taken away from you as a result of a crime
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and then have your control also... ..feel like you have your control taken away from you through the criminaljustice system as well. the home affairs committee says it has little confidence that a government pledge to return to 2016 prosecution levels by 2024 will be met and court delays, harmful evidence gathering processes and poor provision of support services are stopping people from seeking justice. in the year to september 2021, more than 63,000 rape offences were recorded in england and wales — the highest ever. but the number of prosecutions has fallen in the past five years, from 5,000 in 2017 to 1,500 in 2021. cross—party group of mps have branded the figures truly shocking and completely unacceptable. this report, following on from the reports of her majesty's inspectorate of constabulary and other statements that have been made about current performance on rape, is a wake up call to all the agencies in this field, that what you are doing is not enough.
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what we are doing is not properly resourced and the victim survivors are just not going to getjustice at all, given the efforts that are currently being made. the home affairs committee is calling for significant funding to make a national impact. it wants counselling and independent legal advice to be made available to victims and survivors and specialist rape units created in all police forces. the government says there has been a modest increase in the number of charges for rape, but campaigners say more change is needed and fast. it's gone beyond being failed at this stage, they are being harmed by the criminaljustice system and i do not believe that we are on track and i do not believe that what's been outlined by the government is enough to change the situation as it is. and i have real worries for survivors that are caught up in this process for four, five, six seven years. in a statement, a government spokesperson says, "they're clear much more needs to be done and they are recruiting more sexual violence advisers and boosting funding for victim support services by at least £440 million over
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the next three years." but for survivors of sexual violence, the wait for justice continues for now. lauren moss, bbc news. a libel case brought by the hollywood actorjohnny depp, against his ex—wife amber heard, will start hearing evidence later. the latest legal battle between the pair is over an article the actress wrote about domestic abuse in the washington post in 2018. although he wasn't named, johnny depp said it falsely implied he was an abuser and he launched a $50 million lawsuit. ms heard is counter—suing over claims her allegations were a hoax. david sillito reports. fairfax, virginia, and the fans have arrived for the beginning of this court case betweenjohnny depp and his former wife, amber heard. the heart of this libel trial — allegations of repeated assault. this is, of course, the second time
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they've met in court arguing over the issue. it was in the summer of 2020 that johnny depp tried to sue the sun over an allegation that he was a wife beater. he lost the case. the judge ruled that the claim was substantially true. johnny depp said the judgment was perverse and bewildering. so two accounts of a marriage that are diametrically opposed and the previous judgment was overwhelmingly in amber heard's favour. so this a second attempt to try to restore a reputation, and the jury has today been told to tell their families they could be here for seven weeks. forjohnny depp, thejudgment in london had an immediate impact. he was, for instance, dropped from the fantastic beasts movie, but many of his fans have remained loyal. hopefullyjust being here knowing that we're supporting him, that we care enough to show up and make plans for this kind of thing, will encourage him and support him to...
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..go through this ordeal. and for amber heard, who didn't even namejohnny depp in the article in question in the washington post, another long court case challenging her account of suffering abuse and assault. david sillito, bbc news. it is 6.14 it is 6.11; and let's find out what the weather is like where you are waking up this morning. good morning, carol. good morning. i'm going to post it towards the easter weekend, going to be won, but a chance of rain at times, especially in the north and the rest. if you are thinking of heading to the west it looks like there will be low cloud, mist and
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fog, especially over the west coast and the english channel. i will keep you updated. we have rain continuing to push northwards across scotland, rain across the southwest and some of that could be thundery as it continues to advance northwards through the rest of the day, eradicating the bright starts across parts of northern england. we should hang onto dry weather behind the rain across the far north of scotland and it should brighten up in south—west england behind the rain heading northwards. the south east saying largely dry apart from the odd shower and we still have quite brisk winds across the north sea coastline and the northern isles. that will tempt the temperature but today we could get up temperature but today we could get up to about 20 degrees somewhere in the south. yesterday we made 19 degrees. i will have a longer forecast in about half an hour, but now back to. we look forward to it. from star wars to blade runner, science fiction writers have long been fascinated by the idea
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of robots living alongside people. in reality, that's a long way off — but in the mean time scientists are trying to understand what makes a robot likeable. our science correspondent richard westcott has more. come on, wake up, bb8, come on. how do you make a robot likable? oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. it's a simple enough question... will you just be grumpy now? ..but it needs complex science to find an answer. if we're going to live with robots in the future, we have to make them likable, we have to give them strong characters. this is casper here. now, i know casper is a little bit intimidating to look at, but that is consciously designed in, the lack of expression, because the use casper to talk to kids with autism. he would normally have hair and clothes on as well. but casper is not the centerpiece of this research. bb8 is, hello. and they use bb8 to test what people like in a robot. come on.
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here's the experiment in action. first, scientists at the university of hertfordshire asked volunteers to play with a simple, reactive robot. the same robot was then programmed with an algorithm to make it playful and curious, and they compared what people thought. so yes, this is a starting idea, but it's the first of its kind, right? so we put it on a simple robot. we know now, with comparing it with humans, who interact with the reactive robot and there's a curious robot, we know now that they find this robot more sociable, right? and from here, we know, ok, if you have this element in a robot, people might be just more likable towards this robot. more receptive, more happy that it is around them, something we don't quite know now how we can do it. how is the acceptance of robots? so, dan, you're basically making a football team of full of robots to win an international competition, is that it? indeed. it's a first step, but the team says it could still be decades before you got a robot sharing your home. it's probably the hardest environment you can imagine
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because it's so unstructured, unpredictable, it can change, and there are many actors in it which you can't regulate. so in the company, you could make rules about how things are placed and where people can go. you can't do that in a household. i do love the idea that a robot could beat anyone in the world at chess, but it can't clean a shelf. yes. so a real bb8 is years off, but learning what people will accept is the first step to designing a likeable companion for your house. so, yeah, he'sjust hiding. laughter. richard westcott, bbc news. not sure where he was. he was in cambridge. a robot would have known. 6.18. let's take a look at today's papers. the metro reports on what it calls the "last stand" in the city of mariupol,
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as russian soldiers close in. ukrainian forces say they're preparing for a final day of battle after running out of food and ammunition. writing in the telegraph, the great british bake offjudge, prue leith, says her attempt to home a ukrainian family has been made difficult because of government bureaucracy. the paper also reports that gps are being told to work "extended hours" to help prevent a&e departments from being "overwhelmed" because of surgery closures over the easter bank holiday weekend. the times warns of a "summer of travel chaos" as airlines struggle to recruit additional staff as demand soars. and the bbc news website is reporting that popstar britney spears has announced she's pregnant with her third child. it comes months after she was freed of the legal arrangement that gave her father control over many aspects of her life.
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talking about the possibility of going away for easter but some people are staying at home to make the most of it. we talk about people who decorate their homes in christmas lights for the festive season, this lady this morning, hannah a mother of two. she has decorated her house for easter. that is a lot of work. but it is worth it because she puts them on instagram and people want to buy them and she will make £12,000 this year. that is a properjob. my house will not be looking like that this weekend. do not do easter decorations. get hang around. want to show you this, a monsterfrom the deep. around. want to show you this, a monster from the deep. it is a
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monster from the deep. it is a monster cod. as long as a man and weighing eight stone. as long as a man? as long as a man. my love fish but this might put me off, they reckon it is 20 years old. 0h, but this might put me off, they reckon it is 20 years old. oh, and eight stone. we have talked about getting fish at the moment and fish and chip shop struggling to get supplies from russia, but codzilla could supply the nation. he would want to barter that. indeed! over the last few weeks, we've been following the story of twins harry and harley crane, who are thought to be britain's most premature babies to have survived. they spent the first five months of their lives in intensive care, and needed a series of operations, but they're both finally home. graham satchell has been catching up with their parents.
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when baby harley was born in october last year, she was just 15 centimetres long, half a ruler, and weighed 500 grams, orjust under one pound in old money. her twin harry, born an hour later, weighed a fraction more, 520 grams. they were so tiny, they could fit in the palm of your hand. harley and harry's mum and dad jade and steve will remember forever the momentjade went into labour early, very early. at 22 weeks and five days. i remember you looked at me and said, didn't you, that this could be the worst day of our lives. i corrected myself as i was saying it, i remember saying, i was thinking this is going to be the worst day of our lives. and as i was saying it, i corrected myself and said, this could be the worst day of our lives. and he said, it could also be the best. and here we are, you know. despite all the odds.
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babies aren't normally considered viable until 2a weeks, so when harley was born, expectations were low. then something remarkable happened. harley cried, as almost defiant, "i am here". and of course, then, well, ijumped in the air, you couldn't. because it was a sign of life. and everything absolutely kicked in and the support and expertise in that room, in particular of a few individuals, doctors and nurses that came with us on thatjourney from that point, saved their lives. the twins spent 140 days in intensive care and had a series of operations on almost all the major organs. before one operation, jade and steve were told to say goodbye. we quickly arranged a christening because of our beliefs. it felt like a funeral. that was the worst point for me, that was the lowest point. it was a very long time before we had what you would say
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a decent day, or a good day. an optimistic day, where we weren't told, they are still very much in the woods. ten weeks, i think. ten weeks of being told, look, it's probably not going to work out very well. after almost four months in intensive care, jade and steve were able to bring their babies home. at 22 weeks and five days, harley and harry are the most premature twins to survive in the uk and thought to be the third most premature in the world. definitely feels like a miracle. it definitely does, i think these miracles are happening more often now. i think things are changing but absolutely. and not just that they survived birth, it's everything on this journey since, theyjust seem to be reacting strongly to and winning the small battles. the war is not won yet but the battle, everything that has been thrown at them, they seem to have been able
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to recover from and overcome. yeah, yeah. the twins have now been home for a month and are doing well. babies born before 24 weeks are very likely to have developmental problems, but jade says they should still be given every chance. i always used to say, well, can they feel, will they be able to feel love? that's the main thing for me. and they can. and at the moment, they seem absolutely perfect, you know. we could have problems along the way but that's not to say that anybody, a baby that's born at 30 weeks or at full term, that they aren't going to have problems, we know that from being in the unit for so long that babies at full term can have developmental problems. so people say, they could have health problems in the future. so could you. five weeks at home. how are you feeling, harry and harley? 0k?
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are you all right, harry? yes? and harley? hello! i can't wait to be able to communicate to them how proud of them i am. anything is possible for them because of what they have done already. it's miraculous. it's notjust us either. doctors are amazed by what they're doing. the specialists... they can't believe it. they can't believe their development. it seems just miraculous. they give me my strength, they are, i am so proud of them. theyjust are true fighters. and, yeah, i'mjust so proud of them. and like steve, i can't wait to be able to tell them their story, and show them, and how proud we are. jade and steve had ivf treatment for 11 years before they were successful. it's been a long fight to get this far.
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but they are now relishing the journey ahead. graham satchell, bbc news. 0h, oh, my goodness. look at them nearly holding hands. how gorgeous are they. that bit when steve was punching the air when they left the hospital. thank you for sharing their story this morning. plenty more coming up in the next half an hour, until 9.15 this morning. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london with me alison earle. new research is shining a light on abuse by children towards parents. a study published by the mayor's violence reduction unit suggests the number of incidents rose during the first lockdown. it's thought shame and a fear
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of the child being removed from the home led to many not reporting it. it's hoped raising awareness and more access to support could help tackle the issue. gatwick airport's asking passengers to arrive early for their flights this easter. check in for european and long haul destinations opens three hours before departure and two hours for uk and ireland services. it comes after passengers were caught up in long queues at the airport over the past week. a blind woman from hertfordshire who's become a social media star has won an award for her videos showing how she completes everyday tasks. claire sisk lost her sight after having two strokes at the age of 29. she says her aim is to challenge stereotypes about blindness and help others. there are a lot of people who believe that if you have a disability that you can't do it, or you shouldn't do it. so through my platforms, i'm now helping others by doing video calls,
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and that's notjust people with sight loss, that's anybody that feels that they need some help and support. canary wharf will soon be looking a lot greener. the site owners have teamed up with the eden project in cornwall to bring parks, gardens and pavilions to the area. work will start later this year. it's been designed to encourage workers to head back to the office after the pandemic. travel now. there are severe delays on the district line between between earl's court and wimbledon. there are minor delays on the metropolitan line. and there's no service on the northern line between moorgate and kennington due to long term upgrade work. onto the weather now with sara thornton. morning to you. the rumours are true, we are looking fine for this week. except for today. we have got some showery rain which has been pushing in from the south with the warmer air, starting with that this morning in some places, clearing up for a time and then more of itjust moving in as we go
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through this afternoon. showery in that it is fragmented, but actually some heavy bursts and there will be some thunder mixed in. it's going to be a warm day today with temperatures in the high teens. through tomorrow we have got high pressure starting to build in, any frontal systems pulling away. so things are turning much more settled from tomorrow onwards and it looks like that settled weather is going to stay with us right the way through until the bank holiday weekend. but tomorrow morning, there will be some cloud around. the cloud thinning and breaking, could not rule out a little shower coming through in the afternoon but generally it's going to be dry with some sunshine and temperatures in the very high teens, some could see 20 celsius. as i say, staying settled for the coming days. look at this, a four—day bank holiday weekend with some sunshine and warmth. that's it for now. you'll find more updates on our website and on bbc radio london. i'm back in around half an hour.
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hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. coming up on today's show. you'll know him best for his uncanny impressions, but alistair mcgowan has another talent — classical piano. he'll tell us more on the sofa at around ten to nine. i at around ten to nine. thought he was going to plaj piano i thought he was going to play the piano silently then! this is pumpkin. she's helping to show the world how disabled dogs can still lead happy lives. isn't that sweet? leading the way with lots of others. pumpkin and her owner willjoin us in the studio before eight. and the star of silent witness and the normal heart, liz carr, will tell us about her recent olivier award, and why she wants theatres to offer some covid safer shows. unemployment levels are now back to where they were
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before the pandemic and average wages are growing at about 4% a year. and average wages are growing however, the rising cost of living means people aren't feeling the benefit of what would normally be described as a healthy jobs market. nina's looking into this one for us. i hope i will make it make sense. a bit of a contradiction going on here. the economy is bouncing back well from the pandemic but at the same time we speak every day about rising gusts which means our money is not going as far. let's have a look at the numbers. —— we are always talking about rising gusts. —— costs. latest numbers told us that unemployment was at 3.9% meaning between november and january around 1.3 million people were registered as out of work. those numbers are encouraging, and took unemployment back to pre—pandemic levels. the number ofjob vacancies have also been at a record high, and wages are going up.
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average wage growth, so that's excluding bonuses, went up 3.8% compared to the year before. the biggestjumps were in finance, retail and hospitality. but, and this is an important but, part of the reason the growth looked so positive is because it's a direct comparison to the same time a year earlier when we were in lockdown, and millions were receiving reduced pay on furlough. and it doesn't factor in how much more expensive it is to live now. we keep talking about these rises in the cost of living. so when you factor that in wages actually fell by 1%. so it might be familiar contraction. being paid a little more, but being a lot worse off. the bbc�*s panorama programme has been speaking to emma from kent for the past three months. she works part—time in a gallery and her husband is a warehouse manager. both in good jobs, but their wages onlyjust cover rent and food. i'm always worrying about the bills from the moment i wake up. it does affect your mental health. i think the state of the way things are at the moment, either way,
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my mental health is going to take a battering. stress of everything is just getting to me so much and i believe it's making me ill. it's the not knowing and the uncertainty of what's to come. i haven't got a crystal ball, i can't say to my family, everything is going to be fine over the next few months because it probably won't be. it's demoralising. it's disheartening, because i'm trying my best. and there's only so much i can do. it's heartbreaking.
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emma sharing her story with our colleagues at panorama, you can catch that programme on iplayer. in an hour, we'll get the latest numbers on how many people are out of work, and how wages are looking. but with inflation above 6% there are millions of people like emma, whose money isn't going far enough. what's more inflaton is set to go higher, possibly to 8%, and that's affecting businesses too, so we can't expect automatic pay incresaes. the uk has this liberal labour market where most people's wages are set by their own individual bargaining. it's not that many people's wages any more are set by their union negotiating or by collective bargaining. so there isn't really an in—built way for wages to keep pace with prices, and that's why it's likely that we are going to see in real terms which squeezes it here with inflation going up but wages not really keeping pace. there are a lot ofjob vacancies meaning workers are in a decent position to ask for more money. but that won't work for everyone, and unless it's a rise of more
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than 8%, as the year goes on it's unlikely to cancel out increased costs. we'd love to hear from you on this one. how are your wages keeping up with your costs? maybe you've secured a pay rise, but struggling to feel any benefit. what sacrficies are you having to make? get in touch, we'd love to hear from you and we'll have those numbers at seven. we will see then. thank very much. holly is here with the sport this morning, good morning. a big day. yes, some champions league action but first, the business end of the women's world cup qualification. all four nations playing tonight, including northern ireland and england. this is always a feisty affair. there is more of a focus on this because both of those teams are in the same group at the euros later this year so it is like a preview.
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it should become the ball for england who top the group. —— comfortable for england but northern ireland will not make it easy for them. the lionnesses take on the home side at a sell out windsor park. 16,000 expected tonight. that's a record for a northern ireland women's home match. england remain unbeaten in qualifying having scored 63 goals in total so far. they did beat northern ireland last time out but new captain leah williamson insists the hosts have "raised their game" since then. they are a serious contender in any game they play now in terms of being able to deliver. yeah, i think the qualification for the euros isjust another example of that and hopefully, yeah, they make it more of a regular thing because that's the only way that you really take nations forward, is by sort of putting yourself in those positions. so yeah, i'm delighted for them, and i think a sell—out crowd tomorrow speaks for itself. scotland have a big ask at hampden park tonight. they take on spain.
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the players are insisting they're putting their row with the scottish fa over the lack of ticket availability at hampden park behind them. caroline weir says they're fully focused on the game at hand. that hasn't distracted us from our number one focus which is the game. as football players, that's the most important thing, what goes on on the pitch, there's always things going on off the pitch. so it's easy to separate the two and like i said, the players are in a good place, they have focused and trained really well and we are excited by playing in front of a decent crowd at hampden. wales' hopes of qualifying are still in their own hands. they play kazakhstan. they're third in their group after losing 2—1 to france on friday. although they can still finish second if they win their final three qualifiers. something natasha harding will be keen to do as she prepares to play her 100th match for her country. i've always put myself in a position that i will always be ready for wales. to follow in the footsteps ofjess,
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sophie, i could go on. these are amazing players that have played this country and have continued to do so. so to put myself on that list as well is an incredible achievement. chelsea have it all to do if they are to stay in the champions league this season. they are in spain for their quarterfinal second leg match with real madrid and have a 3—1 deficit to overturn. and while manager thomas tuchel accepts that the chances of progressing are slim, he says it's still worth trying. it is one of the biggest challenges to perform as an away team in bernabeu, it is even more difficult if you have to, if you have to earn a certain result, if you need to win with a minimum of two goals, or maybe even a three goal difference. then it makes it, yeah, almost impossible and very, very difficult. but it is still worth trying.
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part of atletico madrid's stadium will be empty when they host manchester city in tomorrow night's champions league quarter final second leg. uefa are punishing the spanish club for discriminatory behaviour by their fans at the first leg in manchester last week. atletico have also been ordered to display a �*no to racism' banner at their ground. city have a 1—0 lead in the tie. huddersfield town are up to third in the championship after beating luton town 2—0 at thejohn smith's stadium. naby sarr secured the victory late in normal time. huddersfield are now four points behind second—placed bournemouth with five games to play. now i know it's just a few months until the commonwealth games in birmingham. but we now know where the next ones will be after it was revealed overnight. and it returns to australia.
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this time in the state of victoria for the sixth time the games have been hosted down under. the last was in 2018, but it is the first time a state or region has been awarded the event. 16 sports have been confirmed on the initial programme, with up to seven more set to be added. look at that. australia is nice, isn't it, but it isn't birmingham. are you putting your name down already for that one? its, are you putting your name down already for that one?— are you putting your name down already for that one? a little bit! it is 100 days — already for that one? a little bit! it is 100 days next _ already for that one? a little bit! it is 100 days next week - already for that one? a little bit! it is 100 days next week for - it is 100 days next week for birmingham, it will be brilliant. we will show them how it's done. its]!!! will show them how it's done. all those will show them how it's done. fill those concerned with the pandemic and stadiums, we are going to have a properfull normal and stadiums, we are going to have a proper full normal games. it and stadiums, we are going to have a proper full normal games.— proper full normal games. it won't even be mentioned, _ proper full normal games. it won't even be mentioned, the _ proper full normal games. it won't| even be mentioned, the pandemic! we will do our best, holly, thank you. i wonder what the weather is like here, never mind australia. carol can tell us.
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good morning. it is quite a mild stuck to the day, for levick it is chilly, but for the rest of us, it is mild. the warm weather will continue the next few days, more coming our way towards the weekend. the other thing we have got is rain continuing to push north, a few spots across northern england, and more rain across the south. the rain across the south may well have the odd rumble of thunder in the and at times it will be heavy and eradicate some earlier brightness across the far north of england. it should brighten up in the south—east later and parts will stay dry as well the far north of scotland. not as windy as yesterday but quite a noticeable breeze in some places on the north
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coast, tempering the temperatures. but we have the possibility of 20 degrees yesterday. yesterday, heathrow reached 19 degrees. the band of rain will push northwards overnight, the risk of the odd rumble of thunder. behind it, once again there will be some clear spells but mist and fog patches for become especially low cloud and mist and fog around the hills in the west. it will not be a cold night, five to 10 degrees, temperatures tomorrow morning not too dissimilar tomorrow morning not too dissimilar to what we have at the moment. talking of tomorrow, rain pushes up into the northern isles, clearing much of scotland. we will see sunny skies developing after a cloudy start but showers in england and wales, and some could prove to be heavy and thundery. once again,
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temperatures seven to 20 degrees but picking up more widely through tomorrow. into thursday, another cloudy start, low cloud, mist and fog especially draped along the coasts and hills in the west, some of that in the english channel. and then a weather front trying to come in but high—pressure establishing itself across the uk. any weather fronts that bump into it will be weak affairs. into good friday and the weekend, we still have over weather front moving across, a fairly weak affair again, and another one tried to come in at that weekend. we could see some rain in the north and west on sunday so it will not be bone dry at this stage. if you are planning on going to the coast, the west coast and parts of the english channel coast could have a lot of low cloud, drizzle lingering for much of the day. so
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temperatures as a result will be lower but generally this easter weekend is looking warm. the fact we are talking about may be going to the coast is positive! thank you, carol. there's been a huge outpouring of sympathy since war broke out in ukraine, and many millions of pounds have been donated to help those affected. sadly, cybercriminals are taking advantage of this goodwill. they're using emotional posts online to divert money away from charities and into their own pockets. the bbc�*s global disinformation reporter, hannah gelbart, has more. as the war broke out in ukraine, the government put out a plea on twitter for donations. with the war affecting national infrastructure, zelensky signed a law to make crypto currency legal tender in ukraine. it's one of the few countries to do so. so far, they say they have received $70 million in crypto currencies alone. and it set something else in motion as well, criminals, scammers, fired into action, making
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fake appeals from every corner of the internet. somebody is capitalising on this, and i had a feeling people would fall for this and people are falling for this. so if you look at my history... ax is a cyber security researcher who has been tracking how much money these scams are making. it's a pattern we're seeing. crypto currency wallets are publicly viewable so you can see the balance and a history of transactions. as of today, this particular wallet has a total balance of over 90,000 us dollars. this wallet address is on a fake charity website and it's been used in other scams before. we also found e—mails from people impersonating real charities, like the british red cross and unicef. it is not accurate. it's not unicef branded, it's not in our colours and there is no typical donate button. this scam has made $540. and there are plenty of clues that it's fake. different e—mail addresses
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in the from and reply to fields. a contact button with yet another fake e—mail address. an ip address based in vietnam. another email claims to be from a children's doctor called maxine aranov in ukraine. i'm writing to you on behalf of the children's clinic here in kharkiv which was destroyed as a result of the russian invasion. i wanted to find out who this doctor was. i looked for the clinic on google earth and asked ukrainian colleagues, but we found no evidence of a children's clinic. a reverse image search matched the facebook profile picture of another doctor, but he's from mexico city. this person is using my photo of my identity to ask for money and donations for a children's hospital. it's completely false. these scams have many victims. the people who have unknowingly donated to fake charities. real charities worried
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their donors may lose trust. but most of all, the citizens of ukraine, in desperate need of aid. hannah gelbart, bbc news. in that clip we saw ax sharma, who's a cyber security specialist. he joins us now from our london newsroom. good morning, ax. it's really interesting hearing you speak in that piece just then. for people watching at home, what are the most common scams that you are seeing? good morning. the most common ones are e—mails from appearing to be legitimate organisations but they are not, they may use legitimate graphics but they are not real. that is one form of scam. the other one
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is one form of scam. the other one is scammers setting up websites that mimic real charities and organisations and even the ukrainian government, but they are not affiliated with any of the charities. and last but not least, these are the most damaging, we have seen scammers setting up twitter and instagram accounts pretending to be real charities, and these are a little bit harder to spot because they are not only showing you pictures of the war, they are also sharing tweets from ukrainian government officials, so almost pretending like they are with the government and their accounts are real and you should donate but this is all a trap. d0 real and you should donate but this is all a trap-— is all a trap. do you know what the scale of this _ is all a trap. do you know what the scale of this is? _ is all a trap. do you know what the scale of this is? it _ is all a trap. do you know what the scale of this is? it depends, - is all a trap. do you know what the scale of this is? it depends, we . scale of this is? it depends, we trace a lot _ scale of this is? it depends, we trace a lot of _ scale of this is? it depends, we trace a lot of wallets, _ scale of this is? it depends, we trace a lot of wallets, one - scale of this is? it depends, we trace a lot of wallets, one has i scale of this is? it depends, we | trace a lot of wallets, one has a little as £600 but one has £17,000. we saw another wallet with £90,000
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and that has now gone up, and this wallet has been used in multiple scams. it's notjust ukrainian donations, it was also used in palestinian aid scam, and they have also set up scam websites. if you go all the way back in the wallet transactions, it is not a first—time scammer, they have repeatedly used innocent victims in these scams are. lots of people feel moved to donate at the moment to help people in ukraine, what should people be looking forward to make sure they have money goes to the right place? do not full for emotional blackmail. if you are not sure even a little bit, do your due diligence. instead of having the scammer come to you, you go to the charity. so you get an e—mailfrom red cross and you go to the charity. so you get an e—mail from red cross and you are not sure, go to the red cross website yourself, don't click on any
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links in the e—mail. that's the safest way to do that. this. links in the e-mail. that's the safest way to do that. ax sharma, security researcher, _ safest way to do that. ax sharma, security researcher, thank - safest way to do that. ax sharma, security researcher, thank you - safest way to do that. ax sharma, security researcher, thank you sol security researcher, thank you so much forjoining us. lats security researcher, thank you so much forjoining us.— security researcher, thank you so much forjoining us. much for “oining us. lots of people caettin much forjoining us. lots of people caettin in much forjoining us. lots of people getting in touch — much forjoining us. lots of people getting in touch saying _ much forjoining us. lots of people getting in touch saying they - much forjoining us. lots of people getting in touch saying they have l getting in touch saying they have had those messages. a very important message _ a legal battle has started in the united states between the hollywood stars johnny depp and his ex—wife amber heard, over an article she wrote about domestic abuse which the actor denies. let's talk more about this with edward klaris, who's a managing partner at a law firm in new york. thank you forjoining us. could you maybejust to thank you forjoining us. could you maybe just to start with explaining how this process is going to work? i think the system there is a bit different from here in the uk, what can we expect to happen over the next few days?— can we expect to happen over the next few days? well, this is going to be about _ next few days? well, this is going to be about a _ next few days? well, this is going to be about a trial— next few days? well, this is going to be about a trial with _ next few days? well, this is going to be about a trial with jury - next few days? well, this is going to be about a trial with jury as - to be about a trial with jury as opposed to in the united to be about a trial withjury as opposed to in the united kingdom where there was the exact kind of defamation trial but it was before a judge. and a jury in the united states can decidejust judge. and a jury in the united states can decide just about any way it wants, no matter what the
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evidence is. so it may be that johnny depp influences them and they are sympathetic to him, or they may hate him. it's a lot about the emotional human side in the united states, more so than the law once you get to trial. states, more so than the law once you get to trial-— you get to trial. that's really interesting. _ you get to trial. that's really interesting. so _ you get to trial. that's really interesting. so that - you get to trial. that's really interesting. so that means l you get to trial. that's really l interesting. so that means the you get to trial. that's really - interesting. so that means the jury has to be very carefully selected about what they know, how they feel odd does that not matter? thea;r about what they know, how they feel odd does that not matter?— odd does that not matter? they will be selected carefully _ odd does that not matter? they will be selected carefully by _ odd does that not matter? they will be selected carefully by both - odd does that not matter? they will be selected carefully by both sides. | be selected carefully by both sides. these are incredibly famous people so there has been a lot written about them. they are going toward jurors who are fairly out of touch, which sometimes ends up being people who are unsophisticated and insulin influenced. in this case their own —— are easily influenced. in this case there are only seven jurors because it is a civil trial and we don't know exactly who we will get but it will be interesting. idietitian don't know exactly who we will get but it will be interesting. when the 'u has but it will be interesting. when the jury has been _ but it will be interesting. when the jury has been selected, _ but it will be interesting. when the jury has been selected, what - but it will be interesting. when the jury has been selected, what is - but it will be interesting. when the jury has been selected, what is the format? two parties each keen to
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prove and presented their case, what is the format? the prove and presented their case, what is the format?— is the format? the format is that the can is the format? the format is that they can call _ is the format? the format is that they can call witnesses, - is the format? the format is that they can call witnesses, and - they can call witnesses, and according to the records here, it looks like some very famous celebrities are going to be coming through the court room which is going to create even more of a circus. we have got people like james franco and winona ryder put in a witness statement onjohnny depp's side. so who knows exactly how that will influence, but it is going to be what people think is really entertaining. in fact, be what people think is really entertaining. infact, it's be what people think is really entertaining. in fact, it's going to be on television here, on court tv. so we can expect huge coverage and will to world attention on this. we saw our correspondent africa walt all attention of this. we saw our correspondent earlier with lots of cameras already there. this is crucial, the impact of this has had onjohnny depp's reputation and
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career. on johnny depp's reputation and career. ., ., .., on johnny depp's reputation and career. ., ., ., , ., career. yeah, how can a guy who has been proven — career. yeah, how can a guy who has been proven in _ career. yeah, how can a guy who has been proven in the _ career. yeah, how can a guy who has been proven in the united _ career. yeah, how can a guy who has been proven in the united kingdom | career. yeah, how can a guy who has| been proven in the united kingdom to have... it substantially true that he is a wife—beater, how could he get back to court in the united states where the law is even more against him, and sue? it seems crazy to think that that will load to his reputation. that to think that that will load to his reputation-— to think that that will load to his reutation. �* ,., ~ , reputation. at the same time, amber heard is countersuing _ reputation. at the same time, amber heard is countersuing him? _ reputation. at the same time, amber heard is countersuing him? yes, - reputation. at the same time, amber heard is countersuing him? yes, she| heard is countersuing him? yes, she is countersuing _ heard is countersuing him? yes, she is countersuing him _ heard is countersuing him? yes, she is countersuing him for— heard is countersuing him? yes, she is countersuing him for calling - heard is countersuing him? yes, she is countersuing him for calling him i is countersuing him for calling him a liar because the striker calling her a liar, because she called him a wife—beater. but primarily this is about the lawsuit against amber heard. ., ., ., , . heard. how long are we expecting it to last? they _ heard. how long are we expecting it to last? they say — heard. how long are we expecting it to last? they say it _ heard. how long are we expecting it to last? they say it could _ heard. how long are we expecting it to last? they say it could be - to last? they say it could be lastin: to last? they say it could be lasting six — to last? they say it could be lasting six weeks, _ to last? they say it could be lasting six weeks, which - to last? they say it could be lasting six weeks, which is l to last? they say it could be - lasting six weeks, which is pretty shocking. i would lasting six weeks, which is pretty shocking. iwould have lasting six weeks, which is pretty shocking. i would have thought a trial like this would go much
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faster. maybe it is because of the celebrities and their schedules. but it seems around six weeks. then the 'u it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes — it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes back— it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes back with _ it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes back with a _ it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes back with a verdict - it seems around six weeks. then the jury comes back with a verdict at - jury comes back with a verdict at the end, there is no gap or reserved judgment, it is what they say then? that's exactly right. it could be that the judge at the end of the testimony decides the case, i would not be surprised if this judge, like thejudge in new york not be surprised if this judge, like the judge in new york who flew —— recur throughout sarah paly in's case against the —— he threw out sarah paly in's case against the new york times, he will do the same here, possibly. if they find in favour ofjohnny depp, which i doubt, the case can always go to appeal which will go in front of dispassionatejudges appeal which will go in front of dispassionate judges who have to decide on the law rather than the celebrity. decide on the law rather than the celebri . , ~ decide on the law rather than the celebri . , ,, , ., celebrity. sounds like this one could run _ celebrity. sounds like this one could run and _ celebrity. sounds like this one could run and run. _ celebrity. sounds like this one could run and run. we - celebrity. sounds like this one could run and run. we will. celebrity. sounds like this one i could run and run. we will catch celebrity. sounds like this one - could run and run. we will catch up with you during the trial, thank you. with you during the trial, thank ou. . ~' with you during the trial, thank ou. . ~ , ., y with you during the trial, thank
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ou. . ~' , ., , . we have plenty more coming up, we have the armed forces minister coming up later on after 7:30am. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london with me, alison earle. new research is shining a light on abuse by children towards parents. a study published by the mayor's violence reduction unit suggests the number of incidents rose during the first lockdown. it's thought shame and a fear of the child being removed from the home led to many not reporting it. it's hoped raising awareness and more access to support could help tackle the issue. gatwick airport's asking passengers to arrive early for their flights this easter. check in for european and long haul destinations opens three hours before departure and two hours for uk and ireland services. it comes after passengers were caught up in long queues
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at the airport over the past week. a blind woman from hertfordshire who's become a social media star has won an award for her videos showing how she completes everyday tasks. claire sisk lost her sight after having two strokes at the age of 29. she says her aim is to challenge stereotypes about blindness. there are a lot of people who believe that if you have a disability that you can't do it, or you shouldn't do it. so through my platforms, i'm now helping others by doing video calls, and that's notjust people with sight loss, that's anybody that feels that they need some help and support. canary wharf could soon be looking a lot greener. the site owners have teamed up with the eden project in cornwall to bring parks, gardens and pavilions to the area. it's been designed to encourage workers and visitors to return after the pandemic.
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travel now, and this is how tfl services are looking right now. there are severe delays on the metropolitan line between baker street and aldgate and minor delays on the rest of the line due to train cancellations. and there's no service on the northern line between moorgate and kennington due to long term upgrade work. onto the weather now with sara thornton. morning to you. the rumours are true, we are looking fine for this week. except for today. we have got some showery rain which has been pushing in from the south with the warmer air, starting with that this morning in some places, clearing up for a time and then more of itjust moving in as we go through this afternoon. showery in that it is fragmented, but actually some heavy bursts and there will be some thunder mixed in. it's going to be a warm day today with temperatures in the high teens. through tomorrow we have got high pressure starting to build in, any frontal systems pulling away. so things are turning much more settled from tomorrow onwards and it looks like that settled weather is going to stay with us right the way through until the bank holiday weekend. but tomorrow morning, there will be some cloud around. the cloud thinning and breaking, could not rule out a little shower
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coming through in the afternoon but generally it's going to be dry with some sunshine and temperatures in the very high teens, some could see 20 celsius. as i say, staying settled for the coming days. look at this, a four—day bank holiday weekend with some sunshine and warmth. that's it for now. you'll find more updates our website and on bbc radio london. i'm back in around half an hour. now it's back to sally and jon. bye for now.
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good morning, and welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today: russia is investigated for the use of chemical weapons in mariupol. british foreign secretary liz truss warns if true, vladimir putin will be held to account. anger as a conservative mp defends fellow politician imran ahmad khan, who has been convicted of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. johnny depp's legal battle with former wife amber heard has begun in the united states over allegations made by the actress about domestic abuse. we meet pumpkin — who's on a mission to show the world how disabled dogs
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can lead happy lives. as england edge closer to world cup qualification — northern ireland stand in their way. still unbeaten in this campaign, a win for the lionesses in belfast tonight would all but secure their place at the tournament next year. good morning. yesterday heathrow airport reached 19 degrees. somewhere in the south—east could reach 20, but from tomorrow, more of us will warm up with temperatures widely from the mid to high teens. i will have all the details throughout this morning's programme. it's tuesday the 12th april. our main story. the us and uk governments are investigating reports that chemical weapons have been used by russia in the ukrainian port of mariupol. a ukrainian paramilitary group claimed russian troops used a drone to deploy an unknown substance in the besieged city last night. mark lobel reports.
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a playground turned battleground in ukraine's east, where pro—russian troops claim to be liberating ukrainians held hostage. ukraine says russian tanks have begun advancing towards the eastern donbas region for a renewed offensive. as battle rages in the besieged city of mariupol, ukraine's azov regiment say russian drones have dropped chemicals causing breathing problems and vertigo—like symptoms after a pro—russian military spokesman threatened smoking out ukrainian defenders of a major steel plant there. translation: today, the occupiers issued a new statement _ which testifies to their preparation for a new stage of terror against ukraine and our defenders. one of the mouthpieces of the occupiers stated that they could use chemical weapons against the defenders of mariupol. we take this as
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seriously as possible. i want to remind the world's leaders that the possible use of chemical weapons by the russian military has already been discussed. as britain's foreign secretary seeks to verify the claims, she says putin would be held to account for any callous escalation of this conflict. as the war approaches its eighth week, ukraine's deputy prime minister claims more than 500 female ukrainian civilians are in russian prisons. translation: they shave their heads. they check them every day, forcing them to undress and get naked. they humiliate their human dignity. i know facts of rape, i saw spines that had been beaten. so we have to act. we have to be strong and durable. we need to understand that the absolute evil is working against us.
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it's the evil that feeds on weakness. a mother's reaction as her son's body is recovered in front of her eyes close to kiev. explosion. hundreds more small, explosive devices are being discovered in residential areas such as here in kharkiv, landing as people sleep. in this relentless war where the fighting never stops. mark lobel bbc news. our correspondent danjohnson is in the western city of lviv with the latest. these are unconfirmed reports at the moment but some think the foreign secretary liz truss and others seem to be taking seriously and that is why there is an investigation trying to verify the details of whether this attack actually did take place,
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whether chemical weapons were used. liz truss said it would be a callous escalation of the conflict, something for which vladimir putin would have to be held to account. the us defence department says it is aware of some of the report circulating on social media and it will monitor the situation to try to establish what has actually happened. president zelensky has warned the russians may be about to use chemical attacks. he didn't specifically refer to this allegation of their use in mariupol, but he has warned his people that sort of escalation may be possible. president zelensky last night also talked about the mines and explosive ordinance withdrawing russian troops had left in other areas of the country. we know in places like kharkiv, residents are being warned to avoid anything that looks like explicit material because there are reports of scattered explosives having been dropped with self—destructing timers to cause more damage to people after they
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return from an air raid alert or two areas russians have withdrawn from. there are reports of renewed shelling of a knight in khaki. we know 11 residents died there overnight and at least 14 people are in hospital. —— kharkiv. that city has come under repeated bombardment. russia says it is about to take mariupol, finally completing the offensive it has large, besieging the city right from the start. we are seeing in some places how the conflict is intensifying in those eastern cities. that is why so many more people are on the move trying to get to safety. we had this morning that two thirds of all the ukrainian children are now away from their homes as refugees. lian ukrainian children are now away from their homes as refugees. dan johnson re ”ortin. their homes as refugees. dan johnson reporting- we — their homes as refugees. dan johnson reporting. we will— their homes as refugees. dan johnson reporting. we will have _ their homes as refugees. dan johnson reporting. we will have the _ their homes as refugees. dan johnson reporting. we will have the armed - reporting. we will have the armed forces minister on the programme at about 7.30 and ask him about those reports of potential use of chemical
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weapons in mariupol last night. we will also probably speak to him about this... the conservative mp crispin blunt is facing strong criticism for defending a fellow mp who has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. imran ahmad khan, the mp for wakefield, was found convicted at southwark crown court yesterday and is due to be sentenced next week. he has been expelled from the conservative party. our chief political correspondent adam fleming is in westminster. shall be recap on the story, what it was this case about?— was this case about? yes, imran ahmad khan _ was this case about? yes, imran ahmad khan was _ was this case about? yes, imran ahmad khan was the _ was this case about? yes, imran. ahmad khan was the conservative was this case about? yes, imran - ahmad khan was the conservative mp for wakefield in 2019, the first conservative to be elected in that patch for a very long time. but then he was accused and charged with sexually assaulting a 15—year—old boy at a party back in 2008. yesterday at southwark crown court in london, he was found guilty of the crime. his solicitor said he is
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going to appeal. depending on his sentencing, if he gets more than a year's sentence in prison, he would automatically be expelled from the house of commons. if it is less than a year his constituents could sign a petition recalling him and if 10% of the voters signed that petition, that would trigger a by—election. he could in theory stand again, but not as a conservative because he has now been expelled from the conservative party on the basis of this conviction. while that was happening in court yesterday, one of his friends, the conservative mp and formerjustice minister, crispin blunt, who sat through a lot of the trial posted a statement on his website saying, the trial was a travesty of justice, website saying, the trial was a travesty ofjustice, miscarriage of justice and his friend had not been treated fairly. there were all sorts of issues about being lgbt in the muslim community. the conservative party rejected those comments, saying the judicial process had been
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followed and imran ahmad khan had been found guilty by a jury of his peers. that is how the system works. then we saw some opposition mps resigning from a cross—party group on lgbt issues chaired by crispin blunt. there were talks between the party and crispin blunt last night and the conservatives expect him to withdraw those comments this morning. but we have not heard from crispin blunt yet.— crispin blunt yet. interesting, we will wait for— crispin blunt yet. interesting, we will wait for that _ crispin blunt yet. interesting, we will wait for that later. _ crispin blunt yet. interesting, we will wait for that later. thank - crispin blunt yet. interesting, we| will wait for that later. thank you, adam. victims of rape and sexual assault are being failed by a "collapse in prosecutions" and poor provision of support services, according to a group of mps. the home affairs committee says the government's plans to improve "lack ambition" — and that it could miss its target, after the number of rape offences recorded in england and wales last year, reached a record high. we're joined now by rebecca hitchen, who's head of policy and campaigns at the end violence against women
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coalition. good to see this morning, thank you forjoining us. this report seems to talk about and acknowledge a lot of problems you have been talking about for a long time, are you frustrated to be hearing all of this again? i am frustrated, that is one word for it. but this is information that is not new. we have been talking about it for a long time at the coalition. i think it is helpful to have this pull together and have this committee saying the government is not doing enough and presenting in really stark ways, the extent to which the criminaljustice system is failing survivors of rape and sexual abuse. it talks about the stats themselves, which are incredibly stark. the fact that last year there were just above 63,000 rapes reported, but of those only 1.3%
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were charged. it also goes into detail about actual survivors' feelings and feedback of the system itself. these survivors talk about just how traumatic the criminal justice system is. a number of survivors who are sited in the report talk about how, if they had the choice again, they wouldn't have gone to the police. they talk about if someone, a friend of theirs or someone they cared for was raped, they would advise against reporting. i think it isjust... it is more evidence upon where we already have so much i'vejust how much evidence upon where we already have so much i've just how much the criminaljustice so much i've just how much the criminal justice system so much i've just how much the criminaljustice system is failing women and girls and survivors of rape. ii women and girls and survivors of ra e. . ., , . ~ women and girls and survivors of rae. , ., ., rape. if i could 'ust tick and what ou are rape. if i could 'ust tick and what you talking— rape. if i could just tick and what you are talking about, _ rape. if i could just tick and what you are talking about, the - rape. if i could just tick and what| you are talking about, the trauma that survivors experience, what could be done to change the system to make it easier, if possible, for them? i to make it easier, if possible, for them? ~ ., , to make it easier, if possible, for them? ~ . , ~ , them? i think that is the key question- — them? i think that is the key question- i _ them? i think that is the key question. ithink— them? i think that is the key question. i think there - them? i think that is the key question. i think there is - them? i think that is the key question. i think there is sol them? i think that is the key - question. i think there is so much that needs to be done. this is what
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the report really lays out, it is at every level we need to see change. we need to see huge, wholesale investment into transformation. yes, survivors talk about the delays and we have survivors waiting years for a court case. in the small instances it goes to court. we hear about how they are treated in cross examination, how they are treated by the cps, how they experience those requests that are extreme for personal information. that includes counselling records, medical records, social services records, education records. there needs to be changed at every single part and definitely what needs to come across thatis definitely what needs to come across that is investment and leadership. another thing the report mentions is the fact there are over 10,000 survivors waiting on rape crisis
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waiting lists. those are women and girls and survivors who cannot access that life—saving, life changing support. that is just one piece of evidence again, a long of evidence around how much needs to change and the level of ambition that needs to increase from the government. we that needs to increase from the government-— that needs to increase from the rovernment. ~ ~ ., ., ., government. we know at least two fifths of police _ government. we know at least two fifths of police forces _ government. we know at least two fifths of police forces in _ government. we know at least two fifths of police forces in england i fifths of police forces in england do not currently have specialist rape teams for the investigation, and the aftermath, how much of a difference would they be able to make? , ~ , ., , make? yes, i think there needs to be increasin: make? yes, i think there needs to be increasing specialism _ make? yes, i think there needs to be increasing specialism within - make? yes, i think there needs to be increasing specialism within police i increasing specialism within police forces. notjust the police, we need to see change within the crown prosecution service. there needs to be specialism there as well and also across the whole system, it cannot just be... it can'tjust remain the way that it has done for years. i know there are lots of reviews, this
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is, as i have mentioned, another report and only a few weeks ago we had thejoint inspection report and only a few weeks ago we had the joint inspection report which talks about multiple failings. we need to stop hearing about the failings and we need to see actual implementation of these recommendations. yes, what you have just mentioned, the specialist forces, we need to see it brought in and backed by resource and investment.— and backed by resource and investment. , ., ~ , ., , investment. rebecca, thank you very much indeed- — investment. rebecca, thank you very much indeed. thank _ investment. rebecca, thank you very much indeed. thank you. _ the latest unemployment figures have just been released — but do they tell the whole story? nina is here with more. in some ways it is good news but we have to put it in the context of current rates of inflation. we look at the job market, current rates of inflation. we look at thejob market, how current rates of inflation. we look at the job market, how unemployment is looking, how growth from the pandemic is looking. these are from december to february. omicron still had an impact on what we were doing. we were bouncing back slowly and the end of february was the invasion of
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ukraine. we are keeping a close eye on tay in these figures because of inflation and what we are feeling. wages grew by 4%, unemployment took another slight reduction. so theoretically, these are great figures. in normal times that would suggest decent growth, but two things are at play, first is the 4% growth comparing to a period 12 months area. during that period, people were on furlough so numbers were artificially low. then there was inflation, in february it was at 6.2%, higherthan was inflation, in february it was at 6.2%, higher than the average wage growth of 4%. when you take that into consideration, once again in real terms, we are —1% better off with wages. an interesting distinction we have seen this morning, private sector wages grew by 4.5%, above average, but people in the public sector so they're
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wages grew by 2.1%, compare that to 6% inflation, your money isn't going nearly as far. this is the trend we continue to see. wages going up slightly and the economy recovering, but nowhere near as inflation, and the projection as it will hit 8%. there are 1.3 million vacancies, so people would point to that as a sign of growth, but not good if you cannot fill those toes. people in hospitality say they cannot run the business partly because there is no want to fill the jobs. we need to keep an eye on the growth and how wages are looking. we have not seen the impact on inflation of the war in ukraine and energy bills, which havejust gone up in ukraine and energy bills, which have just gone up again. inflation numbers tomorrow? yes, keep an eye on the graph over the next few months of things getting more expensive. yes, we are getting more money on average, but it is not
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going as far. money on average, but it is not going as far-— the man found guilty of killing the conservative mp, sir david amess, will be sentenced at the old bailey tomorrow. ajury tookjust 18 minutes to convict ali harbi ali of murder and preparing acts of terrorism. he repeatedly stabbed sir david during a constituency surgery in leigh—on—sea, in essex, last october. our reporterjon donnison is in leigh—on—sea this morning. people have followed this case closely and will now be reacting to the guilty verdict? you closely and will now be reacting to the guilty verdict?— the guilty verdict? you are absolutely _ the guilty verdict? you are absolutely right. _ the guilty verdict? you are absolutely right. this - the guilty verdict? you are absolutely right. this was| the guilty verdict? you are i absolutely right. this was the constituency office of sir david for almost 25 years, he was the mp in basildon for 14 years before that. behind me, you have the name of his replacement, anna firth who won the by—election earlier this year. the people have reacted to the verdict
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and they are awaiting news of the sentencing. let's speak to councillor ian gilbert, the leader of southend council, labour leader, i should say. your reaction to the verdict? mr; i should say. your reaction to the verdict? ~ , ., , i should say. your reaction to the verdict? g ., , ., , . ., verdict? my thoughts are very much a sir david's family, _ verdict? my thoughts are very much a sir david's family, friends _ verdict? my thoughts are very much a sir david's family, friends and - sir david's family, friends and colleagues who are reliving these events _ colleagues who are reliving these events in — colleagues who are reliving these events in court and it must have been _ events in court and it must have been extremely traumatic and i hope the swift _ been extremely traumatic and i hope the swift trial and guilty verdict can bring — the swift trial and guilty verdict can bring an element of closure and, although— can bring an element of closure and, although this is something that will live with _ although this is something that will live with them for the rest of their lives _ live with them for the rest of their lives. ., ., ., ., , lives. you are from a different .a l lives. you are from a different party. the _ lives. you are from a different party, the labour _ lives. you are from a different party, the labour party - lives. you are from a different party, the labour party but i lives. you are from a different l party, the labour party but your memories of working with sir david? sir david was great to work with. he had his— sir david was great to work with. he had his very— sir david was great to work with. he had his very strong opinions, that didnt— had his very strong opinions, that didn't prevent him from working with people _ didn't prevent him from working with people of— didn't prevent him from working with people of all shades. we worked on, my last _ people of all shades. we worked on, my last memory of sir david was
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launching — my last memory of sir david was launching the southend city status bid. launching the southend city status big it _ launching the southend city status big it is _ launching the southend city status bid. it is great he got that legacy of city— bid. it is great he got that legacy of city status for southend. he got that last month, _ of city status for southend. he got that last month, prince _ of city status for southend. he got that last month, prince charles i of city status for southend. he got | that last month, prince charles was here for that?— here for that? yes, prince charles was here with _ here for that? yes, prince charles was here with letters _ here for that? yes, prince charles was here with letters from - here for that? yes, prince charles was here with letters from the i here for that? yes, prince charles l was here with letters from the clean and it _ was here with letters from the clean and it was _ was here with letters from the clean and it was a — was here with letters from the clean and it was a wonderful day for southend _ and it was a wonderful day for southend and a fitting tribute for sir david's work. he southend and a fitting tribute for sir david's work.— southend and a fitting tribute for sir david's work. he was the mp for such a long — sir david's work. he was the mp for such a long time, _ sir david's work. he was the mp for such a long time, how— sir david's work. he was the mp for such a long time, how have - sir david's work. he was the mp for such a long time, how have people| such a long time, how have people been kind of, i guess, adjusting and coming to terms with what happened? i am proud with how the community reacted _ i am proud with how the community reacted and — i am proud with how the community reacted and came together. people were sharing heart—warming stories with their— were sharing heart—warming stories with their dealings of sir david and how he _ with their dealings of sir david and how he helped so many people across southend _ how he helped so many people across southend and everybody has a really lovely _ southend and everybody has a really lovely story to tell of him.— lovely story to tell of him. thank ou ve lovely story to tell of him. thank you very much — lovely story to tell of him. thank you very much for _ lovely story to tell of him. thank you very much forjoining - lovely story to tell of him. thank you very much forjoining us i lovely story to tell of him. thank you very much forjoining us this| you very much forjoining us this morning. you will, like the rest of us, be awaiting use of the sentencing from the old bailey later
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today. jan sentencing from the old bailey later toda ., ,, sentencing from the old bailey later toda. ., , today. jon donnison, thank you very much indeed- _ sir david amess' death came five years after the labour mp, jo cox, was murdered in her constituency of batley and spen. the seat is now held by her sister, kim leadbeater. shejoins us now. good morning. thank you forjoining us. you and yourfamily good morning. thank you forjoining us. you and your family know better than anyone what the family are going through now and i am sure your thoughts are with them? yes. going through now and i am sure your thoughts are with them?— thoughts are with them? yes, good mone . thoughts are with them? yes, good money- my — thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts _ thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are _ thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are very i thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are very much| money. my thoughts are very much with the family of sir david, his friends, his constituents and his staff and sadly, the witnesses who were there on that horrific day. i hope yesterday provides them with a way to move on to the next chapter of their lives, but it will have been an horrific few weeks, and they are very much in my thoughts today. when your sisterjo was murdered, we
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all said this can never happen again, surely this will never happen again, surely this will never happen again, but here we are. can you believe we are having this conversation?— believe we are having this conversation? ., , conversation? no, when the news came throu~h conversation? no, when the news came through that — conversation? no, when the news came through that sir — conversation? no, when the news came through that sir david _ conversation? no, when the news came through that sir david had _ conversation? no, when the news came through that sir david had been - through that sir david had been attacked, there was that period of hope as whenjo was attacked and that he would be ok. clearly, he wasn't. it sent a huge sense of shock to westminster, through politics and through the country that we can end up in that situation again. what needs to happen now, we need to look at two things, one is the measures we can take to protect our democracy, but also ensure mps and elected representatives feel safe to do their work and that is a very difficult balance. the second thing is looking at the culture around politics and how we can reduce the abuse, intimidation, threats and the toxicity. that is a broader issue around society as well, so there is a lot of work still to be done, sadly.-
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still to be done, sadly. let's undertake — still to be done, sadly. let's undertake those _ still to be done, sadly. let's undertake those one - still to be done, sadly. let's undertake those one by i still to be done, sadly. let's| undertake those one by one. still to be done, sadly. let's- undertake those one by one. on still to be done, sadly. let's undertake those one by one. on the practical changes that can be made to try to aid mps, and you are now an empty, safer. what would make you feel more secure? i an empty, safer. what would make you feel more secure?— feel more secure? i think there is a lot of good — feel more secure? i think there is a lot of good work _ feel more secure? i think there is a lot of good work going _ feel more secure? i think there is a lot of good work going on - feel more secure? i think there is a lot of good work going on now- lot of good work going on now behind—the—scenes, primarily. these things cannot be done publicly for obvious reasons. i do feel safe for the vast majority of the time, but a lot of that is because i take the advice i'm given and take the measures i have been offered by the police, by the parliamentary authorities and it is important we do that. a lot of that isn't for public consumption for obvious reasons, but it is an extremely fine line. most of us go into this job because we want to be around people, represent our constituents. that is the best part of the job, being available and accessible to tea. but we have to keep our democracy and freedoms, but also making sure that people feel safe in their work. that
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is a really fine line. my other worry is if things do not improve, we will lose good people from public life and in 2019, a number of mps cited abuse, intimidation and threats as one of the reasons they stepped down. it will discourage good, young people, females and people from ethnic minority backgrounds putting themselves forward for public life. i would advise any entity, there are 650 of us and we have our own way of doing thisjob, but please us and we have our own way of doing this job, but please take the advice from the experts that is given. iie from the experts that is given. he talked about changing the culture and the toxicity of politics, how do you do that? it and the toxicity of politics, how do you do that?— you do that? it certainly feels like it is an uphill— you do that? it certainly feels like it is an uphill struggle. _ you do that? it certainly feels like it is an uphill struggle. i - you do that? it certainly feels like it is an uphill struggle. i think- you do that? it certainly feels like it is an uphill struggle. i think we | it is an uphill struggle. i think we have to take a very holistic approach and i would include everybody. mps have to look at the way we behave and conduct ourselves. sadly, we have seen some poor behaviour from elected sadly, we have seen some poor behaviourfrom elected people. we have to look at the role the media
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has to play. i understand why the media covers the confrontational stuff in politics and the division in politics, but there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes, often on a cross—party basis to achieve good things. that doesn't get enough of a profile, i don't think. we have to look at society, where does the anger come from, where does the anger come from, where does the disillusionment politics come from? people are disengaged and people don't think the system represents them. i understand that, i get that as someone who is pretty new to politics. what can we do, part of thatis politics. what can we do, part of that is political education, to understand the system and what it means to them. look at society more broadly. sadly, we have seen abuse of people in public life, whether it is celebrities or sportspeople. we have seen so much anger directed to people towards people working in the nhs or driving a taxi. we have to
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think about our culture and the kind of society we want to live in and we can only do that by everybody taking responsibility. i can only do that by everybody taking responsibility-— responsibility. i was wondering if i could aet responsibility. i was wondering if i could get your _ responsibility. i was wondering if i could get your reaction _ responsibility. i was wondering if i could get your reaction to - responsibility. i was wondering if i could get your reaction to the i could get your reaction to the conviction yesterday of imran ahmed khan, his conviction for sexual assault? it khan, his conviction for sexual assault? , , ., , , ,, assault? it is usually distressing. for no one _ assault? it is usually distressing. for no one more _ assault? it is usually distressing. for no one more so _ assault? it is usually distressing. for no one more so than - assault? it is usually distressing. for no one more so than the i assault? it is usually distressing. l for no one more so than the victim and the family involved in that as well. at least his conviction has been done and we can try and move forward. but it is just awful that this has happened and ifeel very strongly that the victim, he must have had an horrific time. fine strongly that the victim, he must have had an horrific time.- have had an horrific time. one of the reasons _ have had an horrific time. one of the reasons we're _ have had an horrific time. one of the reasons we're talking - have had an horrific time. one of the reasons we're talking about i have had an horrific time. one of. the reasons we're talking about that story this morning, he will be aware of another conservative mp, crispin blunt has been criticised for making comments about the case and questioning the verdict that came from the court. what do you make of
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what he has had to say? i from the court. what do you make of what he has had to say?— what he has had to say? i haven't seen the exact _ what he has had to say? i haven't seen the exact comments, i what he has had to say? i haven't seen the exact comments, but i what he has had to say? i haven't i seen the exact comments, but someone has been convicted of a horrible crime. we can bejustifying has been convicted of a horrible crime. we can be justifying that, has been convicted of a horrible crime. we can bejustifying that, if he wants to appeal, he can appeal and that is the time whoever wants to give evidence, it will give evidence. for now, a conviction has been made on those comments should been made on those comments should be withdrawn. that person shouldn't be withdrawn. that person shouldn't be the mp any more for wake fields and we need to look at having a by—election and get somebody into do thejob by—election and get somebody into do the job because the by—election and get somebody into do thejob because the people by—election and get somebody into do the job because the people of whitefield do not feel represented and that is not acceptable. thank ou for and that is not acceptable. thank you forjoining — and that is not acceptable. thank you forjoining us _ and that is not acceptable. thank you forjoining us on _ and that is not acceptable. thank you forjoining us on breakfast. l you forjoining us on breakfast. thank you. a libel case brought byjohnny depp against his ex—wife will be heard today. it is over an article the actress wrote about domestic abuse in the washington post in 2018. he wasn't named butjohnny depp said it falsely implied he was an abuser
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and launched a $15 million lawsuit. amber heard is countersuing over the allegation her claims were a hoax. fairfax, virginia. the heart of this libel trial, allegations of repeated assault. this is of course the second time they have met in court arguing over the issue. it was in the summer of 2020 thatjohnny depp tried to sue the sun newspaper over allegations he was a wife—beater. he lost the case but the judge ruled the claim was substantially true. johnny depp said the judgment was perverse and bewildering. johnny depp said the judgment was perverse and bewildering. so two accounts of a marriage that are diametrically opposed and the previous judgment was overwhelmingly in amber heard's favour.
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so this a second attempt to try to restore a reputation, and the jury has today been told to tell their families they could be here for seven weeks. forjohnny depp, thejudgment in london had an immediate impact. he was, for instance, dropped from the fantastic beasts movie, but many of his fans have remained loyal. hopefullyjust being here knowing that we're supporting him, that we care enough to show up and make plans for this kind of thing, will encourage him and support him to... ..go through this ordeal. and for amber heard, who didn't even namejohnny depp in the article in question in the washington post, another long court case challenging her account of suffering abuse and assault. david sillito, bbc news. that is going to be some case. a huge amount of attention. the time is 7.28. we have the armed forces
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minister on the programme, now it is time to get the news and travel and weather where you are this morning. good morning from bbc london with me, alison earle. new research is shining a light on abuse by children towards parents. a study published by the mayor's violence reduction unit suggests the number of incidents rose during the first lockdown. it's thought shame and a fear of the child being removed from the home led to many not reporting it. it's hoped raising awareness and more access to support could help tackle the issue. gatwick airport's asking passengers to arrive early for their flights this easter. check in for european and long haul destinations opens three hours before departure and two hours for uk and ireland services. it comes after passengers were caught up in long queues at the airport over the past week. a blind woman from hertfordshire who's become a social media star has won an award for her videos showing
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how she completes everyday tasks. claire sisk lost her sight after having two strokes at the age of 29. she says her aim is to challenge stereotypes about blindness. there are a lot of people who believe that if you have a disability that you can't do it, or you shouldn't do it. so through my platforms, i'm now helping others by doing video calls, and that's notjust people with sight loss, that's anybody that feels that they need some help and support. canary wharf could soon be looking a lot greener. the site owners have teamed up with the eden project in cornwall to bring parks, gardens and pavilions to the area. it's been designed to encourage workers and visitors to return after the pandemic. travel now, and this is how tfl services are looking right now. there are severe delays on the metropolitan line between baker street and aldgate and minor delays on the rest of the line due to train cancellations.
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and there's no service on the northern line between moorgate and kennington due to long term upgrade work. onto the weather now with sara thornton. morning to you. the rumours are true, we are looking fine for this week. except for today. we have got some showery rain which has been pushing in from the south with the warmer air, starting with that this morning in some places, clearing up for a time and then more of itjust moving in as we go through this afternoon. showery in that it is fragmented, but actually some heavy bursts and there will be some thunder mixed in. it's going to be a warm day today with temperatures in the high teens. through tomorrow we have got high pressure starting to build in, any frontal systems pulling away. so things are turning much more settled from tomorrow onwards and it looks like that settled weather is going to stay with us right the way through until the bank holiday weekend. but tomorrow morning, there will be some cloud around. the cloud thinning and breaking, could not rule out a little shower coming through in the afternoon but generally it's going to be dry
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with some sunshine and temperatures in the very high teens, some could see 20 celsius. as i say, staying settled for the coming days. look at this, a four—day bank holiday weekend with some sunshine and warmth. that's it for now. you'll find more updates on our website and on bbc radio london. i'm back in an hour. now it's back to sally and jon. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. as we've been discussing this morning, a man is facing a life sentence for murdering the mp sir david amess in his essex constituency, last october. let's talk more about this with the armed forces minister, james heappey. we have also had reports overnight about the use of chemical weapons in ukraine. let's start with those
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reports, the foreign secretary saying last night that there are reports that russian forces may have used chemical agents in an attack in the people of mariupol, if that is the people of mariupol, if that is the case, the government will hold putin and his regime to account. please tell us what you know and what might happen next. i’m please tell us what you know and what might happen next. i'm afraid that we know _ what might happen next. i'm afraid that we know nothing _ what might happen next. i'm afraid that we know nothing more - what might happen next. i'm afraid that we know nothing more than i what might happen next. i'm afraid. that we know nothing more than you have been able to report which is that there were some reports circulating on ukrainian social media yesterday that chemical weapons had been used in variable overnight. that is not something that —— in marry a poll overnight, that —— in marry a poll overnight, thatis that —— in marry a poll overnight, that is not something that we have been able to confirm. and president zelensky�*s address last night also referred to reports so there has been no confirmation there either. we are working urgently to understand whether or not chemical
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weapons have been used, and if they have, as the foreign secretary has said, the people responsible will be held to account. the use of chemical weapons is apparent, it does cross a line, and all options are on the table for how we would respond. you said ou table for how we would respond. you said you are — table for how we would respond. you said you are urgently trying to establish what happened. what is happening this morning to try and find out the truth of what is happening in mariupol at the moment? invariably, we rely heavily on the ukrainians to be able to give us some sense of what has happened because mariupol is a heavily besieged city and it's not somewhere that anybody can go in. there are other intelligence assets that may be able to assist in those capabilities, that i don't want to talk about on air. but verifying it is clearly very important, because if chemical weapons have been used, thatis if chemical weapons have been used, that is a very important moment for
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our prime minister and other heads of government around the world to consider how we would respond. but as i said, all options are on the table and president putin should be clear that the use of chemical weapons is simply not acceptable and he should not expect the west to stand by. me he should not expect the west to stand b . ~ ., ., stand by. we are having some problems _ stand by. we are having some problems with _ stand by. we are having some problems with your _ stand by. we are having some. problems with your microphone stand by. we are having some i problems with your microphone but stand by. we are having some - problems with your microphone but we will persist. how confident you are, talking about vladimir putin, how confident are you in the effectiveness of what happened in the international courts and what might happen next? i the international courts and what might happen next?— might happen next? i have every confidence _ might happen next? i have every confidence in _ might happen next? i have every confidence in international- might happen next? i have every. confidence in international courts, clearly i don't think that it president putin is going to be in the hague any time soon. the reality is that this is something that happens at a time when it is possible to hold him at account and bring him tojustice. but everything thatis bring him tojustice. but everything that is happening in ukraine is
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being catalogued, it is being logged. he will be held to account. there is evidence already that what has happened in ukraine are war crimes and what is important is to remember that it is notjust president putin as the head of government in russia, that is held to account, it is everybody within the chain of command beneath him. each and every russian soldier is individually responsible for their conduct as well as president putin as the head of the government and therefore the arch instigator. i’m therefore the arch instigator. i'm cufious therefore the arch instigator. i'm curious to _ therefore the arch instigator. i'm curious to know in your own experience, you talk about vladimir putin and potential prosecutions and everybody down the command train but isn't it true that it is a lot easier to prosecute a soldier he was guilty of war crimes and it is to prosecute a leader who has allowed it to happen? ida. prosecute a leader who has allowed it to happen?— it to happen? no, and i think there are examples _ it to happen? no, and i think there are examples of— it to happen? no, and i think there are examples of how _ it to happen? no, and i think there are examples of how leaders i it to happen? no, and i think there are examples of how leaders from | it to happen? no, and i think there i
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are examples of how leaders from the wars in the former yugoslavia in the early and mid—90s have been held to account at the hague. so i think there is a well established route for people to be held to account for war crimes, both at the senior political level and at the tactical level, those who have been responsible for doing the atrocities themselves. we responsible for doing the atrocities themselves-— responsible for doing the atrocities themselves. we saw the conviction esterda themselves. we saw the conviction yesterday of _ themselves. we saw the conviction yesterday of sir — themselves. we saw the conviction yesterday of sir david _ themselves. we saw the conviction yesterday of sir david amess's i yesterday of sir david amess's killer who murdered the mp at his constituency surgery in october last year. in your ownjob, how safe constituency surgery in october last year. in your own job, how safe do you feel? i year. in your own “ob, how safe do ou feel? ., ., ., you feel? i have to say i do feel tuite you feel? i have to say i do feel quite safe. _ you feel? i have to say i do feel quite safe, but _ you feel? i have to say i do feel quite safe, but the _ you feel? i have to say i do feel quite safe, but the ridiculous i you feel? i have to say i do feel. quite safe, but the ridiculous thing is that david would have felt similarly safe as he arrived for his surgery that day as well. there is a really difficult balance to strike between being a member of parliament and in this country we take great pride in the fact that everybody who serves in the nation's executive is
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also a member of parliament, and i go from meetings here in the mod talking about big stuff connected to ukraine or travelling around europe trying to drum up support for the military aid effort, and then on a friday morning i am sat in a church hall in somerset, dealing with people's individual concerns. that is a really important part of our democracy. the houses of parliament have put in place security services should mps feel that they need them. it's not something that i have chosen to take up thus far. but i think what matters is that mps feel safe going about their work but they have access to their constituents. sir david wouldn't want it any other way, he would hate to feel that the consequence of his awful death is that mps become less available to their constituents, that is the lifeblood of our democracy. shifter
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lifeblood of our democracy. after his murder _ lifeblood of our democracy. after his murder and _ lifeblood of our democracy. after his murder and the _ lifeblood of our democracy. after his murder and the murder ofjo cox five years ago, do you think lessons have been learned? i five years ago, do you think lessons have been learned?— have been learned? i do, the parliamentary _ have been learned? i do, the parliamentary authorities i have been learned? i do, the parliamentary authorities are have been learned? i do, the i parliamentary authorities are very good and so too are our police services that cover our constituencies and the way that the metropolitan police supports parliament more generally. if mps feel unsafe and they feel that they would like some security at their surgeries, there is no provision to do so. our local police forces reach out —— there is now provision to do so. our local police forces reach out to us to find out the dates of our services so police can help if needed. i don't think the parliament or police could do more to make mps safe and each mp would calibrate depending on how they perceive the risk. but all of us are guided by the principle that we want to feel safe going about our duties, two mps have been killed in the line of work in the last six or seven years alone. but at the same time we have to remain accessible, it's such an
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important part of ourjob that constituents can come along on a friday morning and share with us their problems and ask us to help them. ., ~ ., ., ~ ., ., them. you will know imran ahmad khan has been found — them. you will know imran ahmad khan has been found guilty _ them. you will know imran ahmad khan has been found guilty of— them. you will know imran ahmad khan has been found guilty of sexually - has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a teenager. he is a serving mp and he if gets a prison term of less than a year he will be allowed to continue. do you think that system is fair, should that change? i that system is fair, should that chan . e? , ., , , change? i understand it slightly differently. _ change? i understand it slightly differently. if — change? i understand it slightly differently, if he _ change? i understand it slightly differently, if he he _ change? i understand it slightly differently, if he he is - change? i understand it slightly differently, if he he is given i change? i understand it slightly differently, if he he is given a i differently, if he he is given a prison term over a year he is automatically removed from seat in parliament, if he has given any other parliament, he is subject to a recall petition. so his constituents will be empowered to pass judgment on whether they wish to continue to sit in the house of commons on their behalf. it's important to note that mps sit in the house of commons as individuals even though the vast majority of us represent a party. mr
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khan has been removed from the conservative party, he had the whip removed some time ago and he was expeued removed some time ago and he was expelled from the party when he was convicted. whether or not he is removed from parliament is a matter of parliament and his constituents but those mechanisms are now in place. but those mechanisms are now in lace. . , but those mechanisms are now in lace. ., , ., ., place. last night we heard from crisin place. last night we heard from crispin blunt, _ place. last night we heard from crispin blunt, the _ place. last night we heard from crispin blunt, the conservative | place. last night we heard from i crispin blunt, the conservative mp and chair of the all—party parliamentary group on lgbt+ rights who released a statement saying he was utterly appalled and distraught at the dreadful miscarriage of justice that has befallen imran act —— imran ahmad khan, and said it is nothing sure —— short of an international scandal. what do you make of his comments? thea;r international scandal. what do you make of his comments?— international scandal. what do you make of his comments? they are not somethin: make of his comments? they are not something i— make of his comments? they are not something i associate _ make of his comments? they are not something i associate herself- make of his comments? they are not something i associate herself with i something i associate herself with and they are certainly not the view of the government, the government recognises that mr khan was found guilty yesterday in a court of law
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and that guilt therefore is proven. what ever he goes on to do in terms of appeal is a matter for him. what ever he goes on to do in terms of appeal is a matterfor him. i have no idea what crispin blunt is referring to in his statement but he is not speaking for the cupboard. what should crispin blunt do know about that statement? i what should crispin blunt do know about that statement?— what should crispin blunt do know about that statement? i imagine he will have no — about that statement? i imagine he will have no shortage _ about that statement? i imagine he will have no shortage of _ about that statement? i imagine he will have no shortage of offers i about that statement? i imagine he will have no shortage of offers from you and your colleagues around the media to account of himself on air. do you think the conservative party is sending out mixed messages to the lgbt+ community? ida. is sending out mixed messages to the lgbt+ community?— lgbt+ community? no, i think that what is happening. _ lgbt+ community? no, i think that what is happening, what _ lgbt+ community? no, i think that what is happening, what you - lgbt+ community? no, i think that what is happening, what you are i what is happening, what you are inviting me to comment on this one is thejudgment of inviting me to comment on this one is the judgment of the court. and as a party we respect the rule of your and the primacy of the court and a court has found him guilty and that is that. he court has found him guilty and that is that. ., , ., . i. , is that. he would distance yourself from him and _ is that. he would distance yourself from him and those _ is that. he would distance yourself from him and those comments? i is that. he would distance yourself i from him and those comments? from crisin from him and those comments? from crispin blunt? — from him and those comments? from crispin blunt? yes, _ from him and those comments? fa'rrrn
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crispin blunt? yes, completely, he does not speak from —— for the government. i don't know what crispin is referring to. he has got something which explains his comments and causes us all to look at this differently, if he has, i'm sure that will be looked at but if you fundamentally respect the rule of law and the court as i do and the government does, if someone is found guilty by the court you have to respect that verdict.— guilty by the court you have to respect that verdict. should he -- withdraw those _ respect that verdict. should he -- withdraw those comments? i respect that verdict. should he -- withdraw those comments? that i respect that verdict. should he --| withdraw those comments? that is respect that verdict. should he -- i withdraw those comments? that is a matter for spring. — withdraw those comments? that is a matter for spring, he _ withdraw those comments? that is a matter for spring, he speaks - withdraw those comments? that is a matter for spring, he speaks as i withdraw those comments? that is a matter for spring, he speaks as a i matter for spring, he speaks as a backbencher and a member of parliament in his own right. —— a metaphor crispin. i'm sure that he will have apple opportunity to explain himself today and everyone will have a judgment on what he is saying but i have to be very clear as a judgment spokesman this morning that he is not speaking for the cupboard, the government has no issue at all that the judgment of the court. if mr khan goes on to
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appeal, that is his business. let's get the sport there with holly. a big day with lots of interesting clashes. yes, the business end of the women's world cup clashes. england take on northern ireland. it will never be an easy task for northern ireland particularly in this world cup qualification campaign and england are unbeaten so far in qualifying, looking completely unstoppable. at the moment they top the group and are unbeaten so far in qualifying having scored 63 goals in total throughout this campaign. a victory tonight at windsor park will only seal qualification if austria drop points against latvia in their game this evening. last time the lionesses played northern ireland they won pretty comfortably but new captain leah williamson insists the hosts have "raised their game" since then. they are a serious contender in any game they play now in terms
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of being able to deliver. yeah, i think the qualification for the euros isjust another example of that and hopefully, yeah, they make it more of a regular thing because that's the only way that you really take nations forward, is by sort of putting yourself in those positions. so yeah, i'm delighted for them, and i think a sell—out crowd tomorrow speaks for itself. northern ireland's chances of reaching a first world cup are all but over following their 3—1 defeat by austria last week which leaves them third, but manager kenny shiels says that his side must believe that they can cause a huge upset tonight. if we don't think that, what's the point in having the game? we've got to feel we've a chance and the girls are feeling that now and they know that we can... we just want to make sure we play at the top level against the top level and learn from it. having a crowd here will help, definitely. but we can'tjust depend on that, we've got to look at how we can play.
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that game is on bbc two tonight with coverage starting at 7.30pm. scotland's chances of reaching the finals are very much in the balance. they were due to face ukraine this week — that's been delayed until at least the end ofjune, leaving them with a match against the world's seventh—best side, spain. these are the games you want to play in. you're challenging against the best players in the world and, yeah, we know we're right in the middle of a process, isuppose, of trying to play a certain way and trying to work on a number of things. so what better challenge than to play one of the best teams out there, but we want to focus on our processes and go out there and put on a proud performance. wales' hopes of qualifying are still in their own hands. they play kazakhstan. they're third in their group after losing to france on friday. although they can still finish second if they win their final three qualifiers.
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something natasha harding will be keen to do as she prepares to play her 100th match for her country. i've always put myself in a position that i'll always be ready for wales and to follow in the footsteps ofjess, loren dykes, i can go on. these are amazing players that have played for this country and have continued to do so. so to put myself on that list as well, it is an incredible achievement. on to the champions league then and chelsea have it all to do if they are to continue the defence of their title. they're in spain for their quarterfinal second leg match with real madrid. remember they have a 3—1 deficit to overturn. and even their manager thomas tuchel accepts that the chances of going through are "almost impossible" meanwhile, part of atletico madrid's stadium will be empty when they host manchester city in tomorrow night's quarter final second leg. the spanish club are being punished
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for what uefa calls discriminatory behaviour by their fans at the first leg in manchester last week. not long to go until the commonwealth games in birmingham. but we're already looking ahead to the next one after it was revealed where the 2026 games will be staged. and it returns to australia. this time in the state of victoria. it's the sixth time the games have been hosted down under. the last was in 2018, but it is the first time a state or region has been awarded the event. 16 sports have been confirmed on the initial programme, with up to seven more set to be added. what do you think it is about australia? i what do you think it is about australia?— what do you think it is about australia?_ what i what do you think it is about i australia?_ what could it australia? i wonder! what could it be? if! australia? i wonder! what could it be? ifi look— australia? i wonder! what could it be? if i look back _ australia? i wonder! what could it be? if i look back to _ australia? i wonder! what could it be? if i look back to melbourne i australia? i wonder! what could it be? if i look back to melbourne in | be? if i look back to melbourne in 2006 it is the most successful of all time. but birmingham 2022, let's see. ~ , ., ., �* ,
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see. we will show them how it's done. see. we will show them how it's done- it's _ see. we will show them how it's done. it's going _ see. we will show them how it's done. it's going to _ see. we will show them how it's done. it's going to be _ see. we will show them how it's done. it's going to be a - see. we will show them how it's done. it's going to be a great i done. it's going to be a great summer. done. it's going to be a great summer-— done. it's going to be a great summer. ,, , y summer. stay tuned, everybody, we have a breakfast _ summer. stay tuned, everybody, we have a breakfast favourite, - summer. stay tuned, everybody, we have a breakfast favourite, a - summer. stay tuned, everybody, we have a breakfast favourite, a dog i have a breakfast favourite, a dog story coming up! idat have a breakfast favourite, a dog story coming up!— story coming up! not 'ust any old dog story. — story coming up! not 'ust any old dog story. way h story coming up! not 'ust any old dog story. way rc— story coming up! notjust any old dog story. way tc what _ story coming up! notjust any old dog story. way tc what is - story coming up! notjust any old| dog story. way tc what is coming. pumkin dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on _ dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on the _ dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on the way! _ dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on the way! -- _ dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on the way! -- wait i dog story. way tc what is coming. pumpkin on the way! -- wait till l dog story. way to what is coming. l pumpkin on the way! -- wait till you see what is — pumpkin on the way! -- wait till you see what is coming. _ pumpkin on the way! -- wait till you see what is coming. at _ pumpkin on the way! -- wait till you see what is coming. at first - pumpkin on the way! -- wait till you see what is coming. at first let's - see what is coming. at first let's go to carol with the weather. did i just see you on twitter saying there is going to be more saharan desert dust on the way? yes, check you out! if you are thinking of washing your car or putting the washing out, bear in mind that we have some saharan dustin in mind that we have some saharan dust in the south—east of england. the weekend will be a warm one, often dry and bright, but a chance often dry and bright, but a chance of rain especially in the north and west. there is also the risk of some coastal mist and fog, especially along parts of the west coast and
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part of english channel. it's likely to linger and if it does that, that will bring the temperature down. if you have got plans to head to the coast this easter weekend, watch the weather forecast for any changes. today we have rain continuing to push north across scotland, another band coming in across southern england, also heading north. rumbles of thunder are likely as we go through the morning. some splashes of rain in north—east england, but some sunshine in the north. the rain in scotland continuing to push up in the northern isles leaving the highlands with some sunshine and part of the southern uplands. there is a keen breeze along the north sea coastline so it will feel chilly. northern ireland has rain on the way. after the bright start in northern england, the rain will continue to journey north as well. later on, it should brighten up is because part of the south—east where it is not already bright. this later
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it is not already bright. this later it will brighten up in the south—west and south wales. temperatures six to 20 degrees today. if you have an allergy to tree pollen, these are the levels today but tomorrow expect them to be back up to high across england and wales. this evening and overnight, there goes the band of rain moving north across scotland. behind it, some showers and clear spells, mist and fog patches are forming and some low cloud, mist and fog along the coast. it will not be a particularly cold night in prospect. a cloudy start to the day, rain pushing into the northern isles and in the cloud will break and sunny spells developing. as that happens, scattered showers developing, more widely across england and wales but even so in between them there will be some sunshine to look forward to. temperatures six to 19 or possibly 20 degrees. into thursday, a cloudy start. we have got all of this low
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cloud, mist and fog hugging the coastline. some brighter breaks developing better weather front trying to come in from the west. high pressure is building so as to whether it approaches it will weaken. temperatures, eight to 20 degrees. thank you very much. you are going to love this. if you're a regular breakfast viewer, you'll know we love dogs of all shapes and sizes. we have got a very special dog with us right now. we have got a very special dog with us right nova— we have got a very special dog with | us right now._ normally us right now. pumpkin, hi! normally she is quite — us right now. pumpkin, hi! normally she is quite vocal. _ us right now. pumpkin, hi! normally she is quite vocal. want _ us right now. pumpkin, hi! normally she is quite vocal. want to _ us right now. pumpkin, hi! normally she is quite vocal. want to say - she is quite vocal. want to say hello? — she is quite vocal. want to say hello? ,, , , ., , , ., hello? she is very relaxed, she is a natural. pumpkin _ hello? she is very relaxed, she is a natural. pumpkin is _ hello? she is very relaxed, she is a natural. pumpkin is with _ hello? she is very relaxed, she is a natural. pumpkin is with her - hello? she is very relaxed, she is a natural. pumpkin is with her ownerj natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and _ natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and we _ natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and we will _ natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and we will have _ natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and we will have a - natural. pumpkin is with her owner tammie and we will have a chat. natural. pumpkin is with her ownerl tammie and we will have a chat with you in a moment. pumpkin was leading them at the weekend. a special gathering was held for dogs with disabilities, to show they can still lead
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a happy life. and she looks happy and healthy this morning! suzy lawson went to meet some of them. a dog walk with a difference. these pets are proving their disabilities won't hold them back. i wanted to make people aware that these dogs might have disabilities, but they can still live a really fulfilled, happy life. so pumpkin is a puppy, and she is paralysed and uses a wheelchair. and she's so happy, and she lives life to the full. i have come along today because you don't see many disabled dogs, people don't really talk about them much i do feel quite isolated as a disabled dog owner. just things like having to change the nappy out in public and things like that and on the wheels. just to meet other people and get in the club of disabled dogs, really, the people that get it, it's really nice. it's fantastic, lovely day. great to see a lot of the dogs out, lots of disabled dogs walking around the parks. itjust brings home just how normal these dogs are when they're given the opportunity and the mobility. hundreds of dogs and their owners,
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with and without disabilities, were there to show their support. duke is paralysed after being injured, he's now got a wheelchair thanks to people's donations. it helped us so much, and it's just nice to give back some appreciation to people. we are so lucky that winston wheels donated his wheelchair, and tammie is donating £1000 for duke's vet bills. it's quite new for us and it was a very scary process so it's nice to see the other side of the dogs, see them happy and walking. pumpkin has never seen another dog in wheels before so this for pumpkin, she's like, there's another one that looks like me! and it's lovely, they are also happy and content. like i say, i'm really overwhelmed. tammie and pumpkin are here with us now. 50 tammie and pumpkin are here with us now, ., , tammie and pumpkin are here with us now. ., , ., ., tammie and pumpkin are here with us now. ., y ., ., now. so lovely to have you both here. now. so lovely to have you both
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here- we _ now. so lovely to have you both here- we are — now. so lovely to have you both here. we are really _ now. so lovely to have you both here. we are really pleased - now. so lovely to have you both here. we are really pleased to l now. so lovely to have you both | here. we are really pleased to be here _ here. we are really pleased to be here. we are really pleased to be here. we are really pleased to be here. ., ., ,., here. we are really pleased to be here. ., ., here. tell me more about pumpkin, how to her — here. tell me more about pumpkin, how to her and _ here. tell me more about pumpkin, how to her and what _ here. tell me more about pumpkin, how to her and what happened - here. tell me more about pumpkin, how to her and what happened to i here. tell me more about pumpkin, i how to her and what happened to her? we adopted her when she was eight weeks old. she had been surrounded by a local rescue in lincoln. and we fell instantly in love with her. obviously we realised that there were some severe problems going on, and set up a fundraiser. and the fund, she went viral, her videos went viral and people donated money and gifts for her all around the world. at ten weeks old, she went to go and see a specialist, had an mri scan. it was revealed that she was paralysed due to a broken spine. [30 paralysed due to a broken spine. do you know how that had happened? paralysed due to a broken spine. do i you know how that had happened? we you know how that had happened? , were told it was through extreme trauma so i don't think we will ever know the real reason as to why she is like this. know the real reason as to why she is like this-— is like this. well done the user takin: is like this. well done the user taking her— is like this. well done the user taking her on. _ is like this. well done the user taking her on. and _ is like this. well done the user taking her on. and you - is like this. well done the user taking her on. and you are - is like this. well done the user- taking her on. and you are gorgeous, aren't you? you are absolutely
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gorgeous! such a sweet nature. she’s gorgeous! such a sweet nature. she's really chilled. — gorgeous! such a sweet nature. she's really chilled, really _ gorgeous! such a sweet nature. clif" really chilled, really laid—back. she has got attitude when she wants to, they call it the westy attitude! she is now playing a really important role, i was going to say she doesn't know it but maybe she does! she is becoming a representative for a lot of dogs across the country who, sometimes we may be forget about them or don't appreciate their issues. more? may be forget about them or don't appreciate their issues.— may be forget about them or don't appreciate their issues. now she is appreciate their issues. now she is a disabled advocate, _ appreciate their issues. now she is a disabled advocate, and _ appreciate their issues. now she is a disabled advocate, and raising i a disabled advocate, and raising awareness for dogs with disabilities. and before i had pumpkin, i had neverseen a disabilities. and before i had pumpkin, i had never seen a dog disabilities. and before i had pumpkin, i had neverseen a dog in a wheelchair, i didn't know this existed. because you don't often see it. that's what the disability dog walk is all about as well. how important _ walk is all about as well. how important is _ walk is all about as well. how important is it _ walk is all about as well. how important is it that _ walk is all about as well. how important is it that people know it is possible to keep it disabled dog? i'm sure some people think that you can't. �* , . , i'm sure some people think that you can't. �*, ., , .,. ,
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can't. it's really sad, a chilly. that's -- _ can't. it's really sad, a chilly. that's -- it — can't. it's really sad, a chilly. that's -- it is _ can't. it's really sad, a chilly. that's -- it is really - can't. it's really sad, a chilly. that's -- it is really sad, - that's —— it is really sad, actually. vets and owners are to quick to put animosity because they think they cannot be happy, it is cruelty. if you look at pumpkin, and see her, she is so happy. at the disability dog walk on sunday, it was all about looking at these animals and seeing how happy and fulfilled their lives are, don't be put off from adopting an animal with a disability. i put off from adopting an animal with a disabili . . , put off from adopting an animal with a disabili . ., , ., , ., a disability. i really admire you, that it must _ a disability. i really admire you, that it must be _ a disability. i really admire you, that it must be really _ a disability. i really admire you, that it must be really hard - a disability. i really admire you, | that it must be really hard work. it's worse than having your newborn baby, not worse, but harder than having a new ball game baby. a newborn baby stays where you put it, pumpkin doesn't, she can move about without her wheelchair. find pumpkin doesn't, she can move about without her wheelchair.— without her wheelchair. and she has a na-- ? without her wheelchair. and she has a happy? yes. _ without her wheelchair. and she has a happy? yes. and _ without her wheelchair. and she has a nappy? yes, and because - without her wheelchair. and she has a nappy? yes, and because she - without her wheelchair. and she has a nappy? yes, and because she has| a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed. — a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed. she _ a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed, she has _ a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed, she has no _ a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed, she has no sensation - a nappy? yes, and because she has paralysed, she has no sensation on| paralysed, she has no sensation on her blood and her bowels so every two hours i have to express her. so she comes to work with me every day,
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i own a nylon —— nail salon. i she comes to work with me every day, i own a nylon -- nail salon.— i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them, i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them. they _ i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them. they are — i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them, they are amazing! - i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them, they are amazing! i - i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw them, they are amazing! i have l i own a nylon -- nail salon. i saw| them, they are amazing! i have to fit her expressing _ them, they are amazing! i have to fit her expressing around - them, they are amazing! i have to fit her expressing around my - fit her expressing around my clients. my whole life has changed. she is so relaxed. it's the first time anyone has fallen asleep on the sofa. i time anyone has fallen asleep on the sofa. . , time anyone has fallen asleep on the sofa. ., , . ., , , time anyone has fallen asleep on the sofa. .,, . , ., ., sofa. i was close this morning at 6am! i didn't — sofa. i was close this morning at 6am! i didn't realise _ sofa. i was close this morning at 6am! i didn't realise you - sofa. i was close this morning at 6am! i didn't realise you were i 6am! i didn't realise you were coming — 6am! i didn't realise you were coming in _ 6am! i didn't realise you were coming in this morning and i saw you and pumpkin — coming in this morning and i saw you and pumpkin going across the studio payouts— and pumpkin going across the studio payouts yesterday evening, and you brought _ payouts yesterday evening, and you brought the little wheelchair here. as a specially made for her? this one isn't. — as a specially made for her? this one isn't. it _ as a specially made for her? this one isn't, it was _ as a specially made for her? in 3 one isn't, it was bought from a firm called walking pets. but when she was so tiny, we couldn't get a wheelchair for her and winston's wheels, one of the charities we are
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helping, they contacted me and provided the tiniest little wheelchair you could imagine so that was down to them. the wheelchair you could imagine so that was down to them.— wheelchair you could imagine so that was down to them. the walk was a big success, was down to them. the walk was a big success. what's _ was down to them. the walk was a big success, what's next? _ was down to them. the walk was a big success, what's next? it _ was down to them. the walk was a big success, what's next? it was - was down to them. the walk was a big success, what's next? it was a - was down to them. the walk was a big success, what's next? it was a huge i success, what's next? it was a huge success, what's next? it was a huge success. yeah- _ success, what's next? it was a huge success, yeah. so _ success, what's next? it was a huge success, yeah. so another- success, what's next? it was a huge success, yeah. so another one - success, what's next? it was a huge success, yeah. so another one is i success, yeah. so another one is next! we have lots of plans, next it is setting up a registered charity which we have done called pumpkin and friends, to raise awareness for dogs with disabilities and help families that financially have a larger vet bills etc. and also pumpkin is going to be a dog, a therapy dog for therapy dogs uk. so she is going to be going into schools and nursing homes and hospitals. schools and nursing homes and hositals. ,, , , , . , , hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had- can _ hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. can we _ hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. can we have _ hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. can we have her- hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. can we have her as- hospitals. she is the best celebrity have had. can we have her as a i have had. can we have her as a therapy dog — have had. can we have her as a therapy dog here? _ have had. can we have her as a therapy dog here? i _ have had. can we have her as a therapy dog here? i don't - have had. can we have her as a therapy dog here? i don't know have had. can we have her as a l therapy dog here? i don't know if tammie or— therapy dog here? i don't know if tammie or let _ therapy dog here? i don't know if tammie or let her _ therapy dog here? i don't know if
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good morning, and welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today: russia is investigated for the use of chemical weapons in mariupol. british foreign secretary liz truss warns if true, vladimir putin will be held to account. anger as a conservative mp defends fellow politician imran ahmad khan, who has been convicted of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. johnny depp's legal battle with former wife amber heard has begun in the united states over allegations made by the actress about domestic abuse. we catch up with harry and harley —
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the most premature twins to survive in the uk a month after they left hospital. why even those getting a pay rise, are facing a real life pay cut. numbers out this morning show inflation out—running wage growth for a third month running. those in the public sector are feeling it much more than private sector employees. i'll bring you the numbers. good morning. yesterday heathrow airport reached 19 celsius. today, somewhere in the south—east could get 20, but tomorrow and into the easter weekend, get 20, but tomorrow and into the easterweekend, more get 20, but tomorrow and into the easter weekend, more of us will see more warmth warmth with temperatures in the high teens into the early 20s. it's tuesday the 12th april. our main story. the armed forces minister, james heappey, has told breakfast the government is "working urgently" to understand whether chemical weapons have been used by russia in southern ukraine. it follows reports from a ukrainian
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paramilitary group that moscow used a drone to deploy an unknown substance in the besieged port city of mariupol last night. mark lobel reports. a playground turned battleground in ukraine's east, where pro—russian troops claim to be liberating ukrainians held hostage. ukraine says russian tanks have begun advancing towards the eastern donbas region for a renewed offensive. as battle rages in the besieged city of mariupol, ukraine's azov regiment say russian drones have dropped chemicals causing breathing problems and vertigo—like symptoms after a pro—russian military spokesman threatened smoking out ukrainian defenders of a major steel plant there. translation: today, the occupiers issued a new statement _ which testifies to their preparation for a new stage of terror against ukraine and our defenders. one of the mouthpieces
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of the occupiers stated that they could use chemical weapons against the defenders of mariupol. we take this as seriously as possible. i want to remind the world's leaders that the possible use of chemical weapons by the russian military has already been discussed. as britain's foreign secretary seeks to verify the claims, she says putin would be held to account for any callous escalation of this conflict. we are working urgently to understand whether or not chemical weapons have been used. and if they have, as the foreign secretary have said, the people responsible will be held to account. the use of chemical weapons is abhorrent, it does cross a line and all options are on the table for how we would respond. as the war approaches its eighth week, ukraine's deputy prime minister claims more than 500 female ukrainian civilians
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are in russian prisons. translation: they shave their heads. they check them every day, forcing them to undress and get naked. they humiliate their human dignity. i know facts of rape, i saw spines that had been beaten. so we have to act. we have to be strong and durable. we need to understand that the absolute evil is working against us. it's the evil that feeds on weakness. a mother's reaction as her son's body is recovered in front of her eyes close to kiev. explosion. hundreds more small, explosive devices are being discovered in residential areas such as here in kharkiv, landing as people sleep. in this relentless war where the fighting never stops. mark lobel bbc news.
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our correspondent danjohnson is in the western city of lviv. dan, what could the consequences be for ukrainians if these reports are verified? it could be potentially a major escalation in the conflict, which could mean many more people suffering. a couple of weeks ago the us presidentjoe biden said if there was evidence of russians using chemical weapons, was evidence of russians using chemicalweapons, nato was evidence of russians using chemical weapons, nato would respond in kind. he didn't spell out what he meant by that, but if this claim can be proven, we could potentially see more international action in response to this. the uk foreign secretary liz trust seems to be taking these reports seriously. she said if true it would be a callous escalation of the conflict and some think vladimir putin would have to
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be held accountable for. even with chemical weapons put aside, what is happening in mariupol is devastating. the local mayor estimates the deaths in that city may eventually run up to 20,000 if the final death toll is able to be counted. the russians claimed they had already taken complete control of mariupol yesterday but ukrainian defence units say it isn't true, their resistance is holding out. but no doubt the situation is desperate for the people left in that city. this is part of the new russian strategy, try to take mariupol, complete defensive they have launched on the south—east coast which would link up their forces in the east with those that have moved north from the stronghold they have in crimea. there is an intensification of fighting in kharkiv in the north—east. we know 11 people were killed overnight in shelling and ia people at least in hospital this morning. people are being warned about the scatter
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munitions being dropped, which potentially means even more injuries, even when the immediate shelling is over and the alert has ended and people are allowed home, it is the potential for more loss of life, more damage and injuries to the ukrainian infrastructure and buildings. some of these have timed delayed detonation built in. we have extra evidence of how the russian forces are building up and the sorts crimes that are alleged they have committed in the areas that were occupied by the russians for weeks. danjohnson, thank you very much. the conservative mp crispin blunt is facing strong criticism for defending a fellow mp who has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a teenage boy. imran ahmad khan — the mp for wakefield, was convicted at southwark crown court yesterday and is due to be sentenced next week. he has been expelled from the conservative party. our chief political correspondent adam fleming is in westminster. adam, can you take us back
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to the beginning of this story? let's do the case and then the reaction. the case was the conservative mp, imran ahmed can't he was elected in 2019 for wakefield, the first conservative to hold that seat in a long time. he was charged and accused of sexual assault against a teenage boy in 2008. yesterday he was convicted of that crime. he was expelled from the conservative party, having previously been suspended from the conservative party. that is what was happening in court. what was happening in court. what was happening in court. what was happening in the political world, one of his friends, the former justice minister, crispin blunt to put a statement on his website saying he thought this was a miscarriage ofjustice and he was unhappy with how the case had progressed. that was condemned by the conservative party and several mps resigned from a group on lgbt plus issues crispin blunt had been
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the chair of. this morning, we got the chair of. this morning, we got the defence minister distancing himself and the government from those comments.— those comments. they are not something _ those comments. they are not something i— those comments. they are not something i associate - those comments. they are not something i associate myself i those comments. they are not. something i associate myself with and they— something i associate myself with and they are not the view of the government. the government recognises that mr khan was found guilty— recognises that mr khan was found guilty yesterday in a court of law and that— guilty yesterday in a court of law and that guilt therefore is proven. what _ and that guilt therefore is proven. what ever— and that guilt therefore is proven. what ever he goes on to do in terms of an— what ever he goes onto do in terms of an appeal— what ever he goes on to do in terms of an appeal is a matter for him. i have _ of an appeal is a matter for him. i have no— of an appeal is a matter for him. i have no idea _ of an appeal is a matter for him. i have no idea what crispin blunt is referring — have no idea what crispin blunt is referring to — have no idea what crispin blunt is referring to in his statement, but he is _ referring to in his statement, but he is definitely not speaking for the government. in he is definitely not speaking for the government.— he is definitely not speaking for the government. in the last few minutes there _ the government. in the last few minutes there has _ the government. in the last few minutes there has been - the government. in the last few minutes there has been a - the government. in the last few- minutes there has been a development in that crispin blunt has deleted the statement he made on his website and the tweets pointing people towards that statement. that follows pressure and conversations overnight between him and the conservative party. whether we will get any more clarification or explanation from crispin blunt, hard to say. and
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crispin blunt, hard to say. and whether the _ crispin blunt, hard to say. and whether the story _ crispin blunt, hard to say. and whether the story gets deleted right now, it is hard to tell. adam, thank you. the latest unemployment figures have just been released — but do they tell the whole story? we are seeing these high rates of inflation and the numbers we have this morning is that the period be between december and february. we saw a wage growth in that period an average of [1%. but if you think back to the latest figures we got for february of inflation being at 6.2%, it doesn't match. when we look at the numbers behind the headline figures, something interesting is going on. those in the private sector saw their wages grow by 4.5%, but those in the public sector saw their wages grow byjust 2.1%. so a big difference. overall, when we look at inflation about how much we are earning more, we are all about
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i% are earning more, we are all about 1% less well off and i think this is a trend that will continue. yes, the economy recovering and tay increases, but prices are going up. the invasion of ukraine had only just happen, so when we look ahead to the next figures, we will have to consider the fact that energy bills have gone up significantly and there has been another global shock to the economy because of this conflict between russia and the ukraine. we get the latest inflation figures out tomorrow and predictions are it could be heading as high as 8% in the coming months. it is could be heading as high as 8% in the coming months.— the coming months. it is the difference — the coming months. it is the difference between - the coming months. it is the difference between what - the coming months. it is the difference between what the the coming months. it is the - difference between what the figures show and what it feels like in our everyday lives. irate show and what it feels like in our everyday lives-— show and what it feels like in our everyday lives. we will hear from emma later _ everyday lives. we will hear from emma later on, _ everyday lives. we will hear from emma later on, she _ everyday lives. we will hear from emma later on, she works, - everyday lives. we will hear from emma later on, she works, her l emma later on, she works, her husband is in a full—time job, emma later on, she works, her husband is in a full—timejob, they have had a slight pay increase, but once that money leaves the account for the very basics, there is not a lot left. that is a story we are hearing more and more.
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here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. for most of us, we are above freezing but heavy showers, spells of rain but in the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm. we have seen the rain through the night moving northwards across scotland and we have another band of rain coming in across southern england and that is moving north eastwards. you may hear the rumble of thunder in this one. we started on a relatively bright note across northern england and southern scotland but you can see how the rain pushes no through the day. breeze coming along the north sea coastline and the northern isles and that will take back the temperatures. it should brighten up across the south—east and the south—west. thus sunshine remaining the longest across the highlands. temperatures today, six to 19, maybe
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20 degrees in the south—east. overnight, a band of rain continues to push northwards and there will be some clear skies and some mist and fog patches forming. especially so across the coasts of north—west england, west wales and also south—west england. once again, it is not going to be cold, temperatures well above freezing so we're not anticipating any issues with frost or ice. tomorrow, the band of rain pushes into the northern isles and it will be quite a cloudy start, but through the day breaks in the cloud will develop and they will be some sunshine coming through and they will be some scattered showers. across england and wales, a few of those showers could be heavy and thundery, but tomorrow is going to be warmer, more widespread than today and we could have highs up to 20 degrees. it sounds gorgeous. i have seen your
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car on twitter, it needs a pressure hose. really, it is bad. very bad. 8.14. over the last few weeks, we've been following the story of twins harry and harley crane, who are thought to be britain's most premature babies to have survived. they spent the first five months of their lives in intensive care, and needed a series of operations, but they're both finally home. graham satchell has been catching up with their parents. when baby harley was born in october last year, she was just 15 centimetres long, half a ruler, and weighed 500 grams, orjust under one pound in old money. her twin harry, born an hour later, weighed a fraction more, 520 grams. they were so tiny, they could fit in the palm of your hand. harley and harry's mum and dad jade and steve will remember forever the momentjade went into labour
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early, very early. at 22 weeks and five days. i remember you looked at me and said, didn't you, that this could be the worst day of our lives. i corrected myself as i was saying it, i remember saying, i was thinking this is going to be the worst day of our lives. and as i was saying it, i corrected myself and said, this could be the worst day of our lives. and you said, it could also be the best. and here we are, you know. despite all the odds. babies aren't normally considered viable until 21! weeks, so when harley was born, expectations were low. then something remarkable happened. harley cried, as almost defiant, "i am here". and of course, then, well, ijumped in the air, you couldn't. because it was a sign of life. and everything absolutely kicked in and the support and expertise in that room, in particular of a few individuals,
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doctors and nurses that came with us on thatjourney from that point, saved their lives. the twins spent 140 days in intensive care and had a series of operations on almost all the major organs. before one operation, jade and steve were told to say goodbye. we quickly arranged a christening because of our beliefs. it felt like a funeral. that was the worst point for me, that was the lowest point. it was a very long time before we had what you would say a decent day, or a good day. an optimistic day, where we weren't told, they are still very much in the woods. ten weeks, i think. ten weeks of being told, look, it's probably not going to work out very well. after almost four months in intensive care, jade and steve were able to bring their babies home. at 22 weeks and five days, harley and harry are the most
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premature twins to survive in the uk and thought to be the third most premature in the world. definitely feels like a miracle. it definitely does, i think these miracles are happening more often now. i think things are changing but absolutely. and not just that they survived birth, it's everything on this journey since, theyjust seem to be reacting strongly to and winning the small battles. the war is not won yet but the battle, everything that has been thrown at them, they seem to have been able to recover from and overcome. yeah, yeah. the twins have now been home for a month and are doing well. babies born before 21! weeks are very likely to have developmental problems, but jade says they should still be given every chance. i always used to say, well, can they feel, will they be able to feel love? that's the main thing for me. and they can.
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and at the moment, they seem absolutely perfect, you know. we could have problems along the way but that's not to say that anybody, a baby that's born at 30 weeks or at full term, that they aren't going to have problems, we know that from being in the unit for so long that babies at full term can have developmental problems. so people say, they could have health problems in the future. so could you. five weeks at home. how are you feeling, harry and harley? 0k? are you all right, harry? yes? and harley? hello! i can't wait to be able to communicate to them how proud of them i am. anything is possible for them because of what they have done already. it's miraculous. it's notjust us either. doctors are amazed by what they're doing. the specialists... they can't believe it.
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they can't believe their development. it seems just miraculous. they give me my strength, they are, i am so proud of them. theyjust are true fighters. and, yeah, i'mjust so proud of them. and like steve, i can't wait to be able to tell them their story, and show them, and how proud we are. jade and steve had ivf treatment for 11 years before they were successful. it's been a long fight to get this far. but they are now relishing the journey ahead. graham satchell, bbc news. they are so cute. i love it when she said, i cannot wait to tell them their story. what a bedtime story thatis their story. what a bedtime story that is going to be. thank you for sharing that with us on breakfast.
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we'rejoined now by dr chris dewhurst, who's a consultant neonatologist in liverpool. lovely to see you, chris. good morning- _ lovely to see you, chris. good morning- how _ lovely to see you, chris. good morning. how amazing - lovely to see you, chris. good morning. how amazing to - lovely to see you, chris. good morning. how amazing to see| lovely to see you, chris. good - morning. how amazing to see those children home _ morning. how amazing to see those children home after _ morning. how amazing to see those children home after such _ morning. how amazing to see those children home after such a - morning. how amazing to see those| children home after such a traumatic few months. what will the next few months be like for them? it is amazin: months be like for them? it is amazing and _ months be like for them? it is amazing and to _ months be like for them? it is amazing and to see _ months be like for them? it 3 amazing and to see such tiny babies make it home and to see a family altogether. it is a really challenging time when you have a preterm baby, even when you make it home there is still a lot of challenges. they will have regular appointments, physio appointment and they will see occupational therapists and doctors he will be monitoring their progress and see how they develop. what we know, if you are born at this early gestation all time at 22 weeks, if you make it home, around two in three of those babies, you won't have major severe disabilities as you grow older. the
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likelihood is they will grow up and have a reasonable to good quality of life. , , have a reasonable to good quality of life.�* , ., , life. just look at them there. they are so cute- _ life. just look at them there. they are so cute. just _ life. just look at them there. they are so cute. just put _ life. just look at them there. they are so cute. just put this - life. just look at them there. they are so cute. just put this into - life. just look at them there. they| are so cute. just put this into some kind of context, it is easy to just deal with the here and now, but how has science, how has neonatal medicine changed over the last couple of decades? we wouldn't have had the situation then would we? ida. had the situation then would we? no, not at all, had the situation then would we? no, not at all. it — had the situation then would we? no, not at all. it is — had the situation then would we? iifr, not at all, it is only in the last couple of years we have been intervening in baby so small because we have seen an improvement in the care we can provide. if you go back to the 1990s we saw some huge leap forward in neonatal medicine, the administration of steroid to mothers about to go into preterm labour and put some special medicine into their lungs. but in the last five or ten years we have seen some basic things, that is getting mothers who are about to have preterm babies delivering in the right place at the right time. so into the large
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centres... right time. so into the large centres- - -— right time. so into the large centres... where there is the expertise? — centres... where there is the expertise? where _ centres... where there is the expertise? where there - centres... where there is the expertise? where there is i centres... where there is the | expertise? where there is the expertise- _ expertise? where there is the expertise- l — expertise? where there is the expertise. i had _ expertise? where there is the expertise. i had them - expertise? where there is the expertise. i had them talk- expertise? where there is the i expertise. i had them talk about expertise? where there is the - expertise. i had them talk about the doctors and nurses in the room and how they went on the journey with them. the simple things, keeping babies warm. when they were born they were probably cut into little plastic bags, like a sauna, to keep them warm. also not cutting the cord straightaway, so leaving them attached to their mother through the placenta and the cord for a couple of minutes. we have seen both of those things improve the likelihood of survival. mina; those things improve the likelihood of survival. ~ , . those things improve the likelihood ofsurvival. , those things improve the likelihood ofsurvival. ~ , ., , of survival. why are babies born earl ? it of survival. why are babies born early? it is _ of survival. why are babies born early? it is a — of survival. why are babies born early? it is a good _ of survival. why are babies born early? it is a good question. - early? it is a good question. sometimes _ early? it is a good question. sometimes we _ early? it is a good question. sometimes we know - early? it is a good question. sometimes we know the - early? it is a good question. - sometimes we know the reason, sometimes we need to intervene if the mother is very sick and for want of a better term, get the babies out to help save the mother. other times women will go into spontaneous labour and we don't always understand why that is. it may be
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down to low grade infection, but often we cannot explain why they are born so early. we know in twins like these two, you are more likely to go into preterm labour.— into preterm labour. interesting about what _ into preterm labour. interesting about what you _ into preterm labour. interesting about what you said _ into preterm labour. interesting about what you said about - into preterm labour. interesting about what you said about the l into preterm labour. interesting - about what you said about the bigger hospitals having the better facilities, the better care, the expertise. if you don't live near a bigger hospital, if you live in a more remote area, does that mean you are at a distinct disadvantage? ida. are at a distinct disadvantage? no, what we have _ are at a distinct disadvantage? iifr, what we have seen with the setting up what we have seen with the setting up of neonatal networks, it will try and transfer the mother before the babies are born so the mothers can deliver. we have seen high rates of preterm babies, 80 to 90% of babies born in these large centres. you have been _ born in these large centres. you have been doing _ born in these large centres. you have been doing this for about 20 years, what is it like when you look after a premature baby and years later you meet them? it is lovely, es, it later you meet them? it is lovely, yes. it does _ later you meet them? it is lovely, yes, it does happen. _ later you meet them? it is lovely, yes, it does happen. last - later you meet them? it is lovely, yes, it does happen. last week. later you meet them? it is lovely, yes, it does happen. last week i l later you meet them? it is lovely, i yes, it does happen. last week i was at a party where there was an ex preterm baby there with the mother.
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i was swimming in the swimming pool with my family and! i was swimming in the swimming pool with my family and i wear glasses, so i didn't see very well so this ladyjumped in and gave me a big hug because i had looked after her baby. i had to explain to my wife! but it is lovely when you see them grow up and how well they do. and you see the families together.— the families together. brilliant comic makes _ the families together. brilliant comic makes it _ the families together. brilliant comic makes it all— the families together. brilliant comic makes it all worthwhile. absolutely, yes. lovely to meet you. we have babies and dogs for you on bbc breakfast. can morning live compete with that? i think they can, they have gethin and bryony and they will give us somejobs they have gethin and bryony and they will give us some jobs for the garden this weekend? coming up on morning live. every year we throw away over 2 million tonnes of plastic packaging, and a third of it comes from our supermarkets. but despite promising to cut back, some shops are still making it cheaper and easier to buy pre—packaged food. in an exclusive report we'll be
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naming and shaming some of the worst offenders. from saving the planet to the advice that could save your life. one in three cancer cases aren't being caught until they're admitted to a&e. dr xand is here with the symptoms he says you should never ignore, including when night sweats could be something to worry about. and xand isn't the only doctor in the house, we're joined by a world leading allergy specialist. from pills to sprays we'll be telling you why we've been treating our hay fever all wrong, including why flowers aren't the cause of your misery. one man who loves all things floral is gardening guru mark lane. i'm here with an easter bank holiday to—do list to get your green space in full flower. plus, full of the joys of spring, the blooming wonderful michael ball is here! he's telling us why taking to the stage in wales brought back very personal memories of his grandmother. and centre stage today,
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nancy xu has another feel good routine for us to master in strictly fitness. this morning we'll be getting our legs moving to karim and amy's quickstep. see you at 9:15. it isa it is a good line—up, we look forward to the programme. we have got tom king and we have got the babies. —— pumpkin. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london with me, alison earle. new research is shining a light on abuse by children towards parents. a study published by the mayor's violence reduction unit suggests the number of incidents rose during the first lockdown. it's thought shame and a fear of the child being removed
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from the home led to many not reporting it. it's hoped raising awareness and more access to support could help tackle the issue. gatwick airport's asking passengers to arrive early for their flights this easter. check in for european and long haul destinations opens three hours before departure and two hours for uk and ireland services. it comes after passengers were caught up in long queues at the airport over the past week. a blind woman from hertfordshire who's become a social media star has won an award for her videos showing how she completes everyday tasks. claire sisk lost her sight after having two strokes at the age of 29. she says her aim is to challenge stereotypes. there are a lot of people who believe that if you have a disability that you can't do it, or you shouldn't do it. so through my platforms, i'm now helping others by doing video calls, and that's notjust people with sight loss, that's anybody that feels that they need some
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help and support. canary wharf could soon be looking a lot greener. the site owners have teamed up with the eden project in cornwall to bring parks, gardens and pavilions to the area. it's been designed to encourage workers and visitors to return after the pandemic. travel now, and this is how tfl services are looking right now. there are severe delays on the metropolitan line between baker street and aldgate and minor delays on the rest of the line due to train cancellations. and there's no service on the northern line between moorgate and kennington due to long term upgrade work. onto the weather now with sara thornton. morning to you. the rumours are true, we are looking fine for this week. except for today. we have got some showery rain which has been pushing in from the south with the warmer air, starting with that this morning in some places, clearing up for a time and then more of itjust moving in as we go through this afternoon. showery in that it is fragmented, but actually some heavy bursts
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and there will be some thunder mixed in. it's going to be a warm day today with temperatures in the high teens. through tomorrow we have got high pressure starting to build in, any frontal systems pulling away. so things are turning much more settled from tomorrow onwards and it looks like that settled weather is going to stay with us right the way through until the bank holiday weekend. but tomorrow morning, there will be some cloud around. the cloud thinning and breaking, could not rule out a little shower coming through in the afternoon but generally it's going to be dry with some sunshine and temperatures in the very high teens, some could see 20 celsius. as i say, staying settled for the coming days. look at this, a four—day bank holiday weekend with some sunshine and warmth. that's it for now. you'll find more updates our website and on bbc radio london. i'm back in half an hour. now it's back to sally and jon.
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hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. as we've been discussing this morning, a man is facing a life sentence for murdering the mp sir david amess in his essex constituency, last october. ali harbi ali will be sentenced tomorrow. the prime minister described sir david as a beloved colleague, public servant and friend who championed the city of southend. we're joined now by reverend steve tinning, who was friends with sir david. hejoins us from he joins us from outside hejoins us from outside his he joins us from outside his former constituency office. good morning. i suppose release this morning at least that this trial is over and a verdict has come through —— you must feel relief this morning. verdict has come through -- you must feel relief this morning.— feel relief this morning. that's absolutely _ feel relief this morning. that's absolutely right, _ feel relief this morning. that's absolutely right, that - feel relief this morning. that's absolutely right, that is - feel relief this morning. that's absolutely right, that is the i absolutely right, that is the predominant feeling. locally we are relieved that this trial that most
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of us feel was wholly avoidable and unnecessary but it is now over and those who have had to relive it are able to move on at least one more step towards their own recoveries. what has it been like to relive it during the trial? local people have had to give evidence and they have had to give evidence and they have had to give evidence and they have had to read about it, it has hung over you, what has that process been like? it’s over you, what has that process been like? �* , , f . ., over you, what has that process been like? �*, , f . ., ., ., like? it's been difficult to follow, been difficult _ like? it's been difficult to follow, been difficult to _ like? it's been difficult to follow, been difficult to watch. - like? it's been difficult to follow, been difficult to watch. those i like? it's been difficult to follow, been difficult to watch. those of| like? it's been difficult to follow, i been difficult to watch. those of us who knew david did not want to have to relive in detail what had happened and see footage of the body cameras from the police, it has been challenging and difficult. similarly we are grateful that part of this process is now over. to we are grateful that part of this process is now over.— we are grateful that part of this process is now over. to the verdict of uuil process is now over. to the verdict of guilty came _ process is now over. to the verdict of guilty came through _ process is now over. to the verdict of guilty came through incredibly l of guilty came through incredibly quickly yesterday, within just a few minutes. i’m quickly yesterday, within 'ust a few minutes. �* , , ,, minutes. i'm sorry, i 'ust missed that, could *
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minutes. i'm sorry, i 'ust missed that. could you _ minutes. i'm sorry, ijust missed that, could you repeat? - minutes. i'm sorry, ijust missed that, could you repeat? the - minutes. i'm sorry, ijust missed i that, could you repeat? the verdict of uuil that, could you repeat? the verdict of guilty came _ that, could you repeat? the verdict of guilty came through _ that, could you repeat? the verdict of guilty came through so - that, could you repeat? the verdict of guilty came through so quickly i of guilty came through so quickly yesterday, withinjust a of guilty came through so quickly yesterday, within just a few minutes, did that give you some kind of consolation that this was not prolonged? i of consolation that this was not prolonged?— of consolation that this was not rolonaed? ,, , , prolonged? i guess so, yes. it was the verdict — prolonged? i guess so, yes. it was the verdict we _ prolonged? i guess so, yes. it was the verdict we were _ prolonged? i guess so, yes. it was the verdict we were all— the verdict we were all anticipating. it was the verdict that we all knew was going to come, given the weight of evidence and everything that the judge had summarised. the fact that it was so cut and dry it was at least a relief. ~ ., ., ., ., ., relief. we have heard a lot of tributes to — relief. we have heard a lot of tributes to sir _ relief. we have heard a lot of tributes to sir david - relief. we have heard a lot of tributes to sir david amis, i relief. we have heard a lot of. tributes to sir david amis, you relief. we have heard a lot of - tributes to sir david amis, you knew him well, what do you remember of him, what are your abiding memories? that's such a good question. i really miss him. i miss the man he was invincible but also that he was an mp which i know has been testified over the last six months was dedicated to his constituency and would put that forward in front of everything. i would sit down with him on many issues and sometimes we would agree or disagree but i always
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knew he would listen and what more could you want from an mp that someone who genuinely listen? whether they are coming from the same position as you or not, i spoke to him regularly about refugees which was taken —— and issue close to my heart and he was a conservative heart to heart and he listened to my concerns, and he sat down with me and saw refugees weep when they express their grief, and then he went into parliament and expressed in a way which advocated for his constituents and some of the most vulnerable people in the world. a listener and a charmer as well, always smiling, whatever the circumstances.— always smiling, whatever the circumstances. , ., ., , always smiling, whatever the circumstances. , ., ., circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for _ circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for how _ circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for how he _ circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for how he did _ circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for how he did not - circumstances. yes, he got teased a lot locally for how he did not go - lot locally for how he did not go anywhere without his camera and he made sure people sure where he was. it was jovial, it was fine. but what
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do you expect? he is the mp and it was important for people that they knew where he was and what he was doing. he was a charmer and he was delightful in his sense of humour and his ability to make people feel relaxed when they were meeting somebody with ultimately come —— a tremendous amount of power and responsibility. the tremendous amount of power and responsibility-— tremendous amount of power and responsibility. the reverend steve tinninu , responsibility. the reverend steve tinning, thank _ responsibility. the reverend steve tinning, thank you _ responsibility. the reverend steve tinning, thank you for _ responsibility. the reverend steve tinning, thank you for your - tinning, thank you for your reflections this morning. you are very welcome- — four years ago, sir mark rowley stepped down as head of uk counter terrorism. it marked the end of three decades in policing. now he's drawn on those experiences to co—write a novel. the sleep of reason is a crime thriller exploring extremism, radicalisation, and the challenges officers face. sir markjoins us now. good morning. good morning, both.
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really interesting to know why you have chosen to write a novel rather than a memoir with all the stories you might have. than a memoir with all the stories you might have-— you might have. mmr would be inappropriate — you might have. mmr would be inappropriate and _ you might have. mmr would be inappropriate and a _ you might have. mmr would be inappropriate and a lot - you might have. mmr would be inappropriate and a lot of- you might have. mmr would be inappropriate and a lot of what| you might have. mmr would be| inappropriate and a lot of what i would write in a full member would be illegal from the official secrets act which is a good reason not to write it! david, who i rate this with he was a friend from school days, we were chatting a few years ago and we both like boxed sets and thrillers and films and we talked ourselves into doing this together. and the next day, we thought, correctly or whatever we said? as we —— resort, crikey, what have we said? but as we rolled our sleeves up, he was into the drama and i was into the authenticity and we slowly put up the characters and storyline and it has been a fantastic process. can you believe you are sitting here as an it seems completely bizarre, if my english teacher from school is alive you will be holding his head in astonishment i would imagine. it
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has been a great, fun process. it's nice to have it out there and it's nice to have it out there and it's nice that people are having nice thoughts about the sleep of reason. he said he wanted to break down some of the stereotypes about policing. —— you said you wanted to break down some of the stereotypes, what are they? i some of the stereotypes, what are the ? ., ., ., , some of the stereotypes, what are the ? ., ., .,, ., , they? i love the dramas on tv but some of them _ they? i love the dramas on tv but some of them are _ they? i love the dramas on tv but some of them are way _ they? i love the dramas on tv but some of them are way beyond - they? i love the dramas on tv but. some of them are way beyond what happens in real life. some of the characters, there is the trope of the borderline alcoholic detective inspector, broken marriage behind him, just about holding his life together, and solving crimes. i can't say i have not met some characters like that, i certainly have, but very few and far between nowadays. the challenges of the job, the scrutiny and the demands of court, it's not like that. so we created detective superintendent sophie gabriel, our heroine, chi is a normalfunctioning serious a normal functioning serious professional a normalfunctioning serious professional person. that has been found. we set it in a book where we
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have got extremists and terrorists and some pretty toxic politicians and some pretty toxic politicians and the police are in the middle of this isle of awfulness trying to save the day in the book which is set over three weeks. you save the day in the book which is set over three weeks.— save the day in the book which is set over three weeks. you have said ou set over three weeks. you have said you cannot — set over three weeks. you have said you cannot reveal— set over three weeks. you have said you cannot reveal what _ set over three weeks. you have said you cannot reveal what happened i set over three weeks. you have said you cannot reveal what happened in | you cannot reveal what happened in your career, but there must have been elements of what you have heard that you have been able to pick from. �* . , that you have been able to pick from. . . , ., , that you have been able to pick from. . . , ., ., from. authenticity was important to me. from. authenticity was important to me- without — from. authenticity was important to me. without giving _ from. authenticity was important to me. without giving away _ from. authenticity was important to me. without giving away state - me. without giving away state secrets of making it easier... the names have _ secrets of making it easier... the names have been _ secrets of making it easier... the names have been changed! one i secrets of making it easier... the - names have been changed! one example would be, names have been changed! one example would be. often — names have been changed! one example would be, often when _ names have been changed! one example would be, often when people _ names have been changed! one example would be, often when people describe i would be, often when people describe investigations into fiction it makes it to simple, clue eight produces clue be and clue see and by f, you have solved the case. but real life, police are pursuing multiple leads at one time and some work and some fail. it's that complexity and challenge, working in a grey area, it is like putting a jigsaw
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together, where you have got a small number of pieces and you are desperately trying to find the rest of the case and catch an offender you are targeting or being someone tojustice for murder or you are targeting or being someone to justice for murder or rate or whatever. it to justice for murder or rate or whatever-— to justice for murder or rate or whatever. ., ,, ., ., whatever. it might make a great film, is whatever. it might make a great film. is that _ whatever. it might make a great film, is that something - whatever. it might make a great film, is that something you - whatever. it might make a greatj film, is that something you have thought about? that film, is that something you have thought about?— thought about? that is too presumptuous. _ thought about? that is too presumptuous. we - thought about? that is too presumptuous. we have i thought about? that is too - presumptuous. we have written the book because it is a fun thing to do. the fact that people have said some nice things is a great thing and the fact that we have not fallen flat on our faces a great success of. ., , ., flat on our faces a great success of. ., ., ., ., of. you say that some dramas have not not it of. you say that some dramas have not got it quite _ of. you say that some dramas have not got it quite right _ of. you say that some dramas have not got it quite right but _ of. you say that some dramas have not got it quite right but which - of. you say that some dramas have not got it quite right but which of l not got it quite right but which of them do you think get it right? i don't watch them for reality. i have always enjoyed things like line of duty even though it stretches incredulity. i think the one which is most effective is their wire, 20 years ago from the us, it is brilliant in the way that it
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captures culture and the complex case. it has the three storylines going on, the police officers, the drug dealers and the politicians and senior police, having those multiple centres is what we have tried to do with the right—wing terrorist playback and the toxic politicians. against the of talking to you, —— the backdrop of talking to you about this book, we have the reality of extremism with the murder of sir david amess, we have the reality there in the real world. where are we in terms of terror in the uk today, where do we stand? i am not caettin the today, where do we stand? i am not getting the top-secret _ today, where do we stand? i am not getting the top-secret briefings - today, where do we stand? i am not getting the top-secret briefings are | getting the top—secret briefings are used to get. but if you look at the case numbers, the case number that my former colleagues that are working on, that has gone up every yearfor the working on, that has gone up every year for the last ten years. the volume and the challenge is there. one thing i have worked on more
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recently, i released a report a year ago about the law and extremism today, and we made some recommendations which government are still considering suggesting that the way that the internet and other factors have come into play over the last decade means that perhaps the laws that deal with terrorism and hate crime are not as strong as they need to be. i don't know the material that the terrorist who murdered david amess was looking at and radicalised with, but i will be confident that the vast majority would be illegal. you would be horrified if you looked at it but it is illegal. —— but i think the vast majority of it would have been legal, horrifying but legal. iodofhozit legal, horrifying but legal. what chan . es legal, horrifying but legal. what changes would _ legal, horrifying but legal. what changes would you _ legal, horrifying but legal. what changes would you make? hate | legal, horrifying but legal. what- changes would you make? hate crime laws, a lot changes would you make? hate crime laws. a lot of— changes would you make? hate crime laws, a lot of them _ changes would you make? hate crime laws, a lot of them were _ changes would you make? hate crime laws, a lot of them were created - changes would you make? hate crime laws, a lot of them were created 40 l laws, a lot of them were created a0 years ago so it is lawful in the uk
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to intentionally start up race hatred. as long as you don't, you are not threatening or abusive as you do it. so if you put pseudo— academic pieces of nine stirring up hatred againstjewish communities hatred against jewish communities for example, hatred againstjewish communities for example, that is lawful. —— if you put a piece online. one in nine people in the uk, useful people, do not believe in the holocaust because of the toxic material online. glorification of terrorism is not always a crime. a lot of what the terrorists who killed sir david amess was looking at would have been glorification of terrorist material which did not cross the line to make it illegal. the which did not cross the line to make it illeaal. ,., . which did not cross the line to make it illeaal. . , it illegal. the pandemic is dominated _ it illegal. the pandemic is dominated the _ it illegal. the pandemic is dominated the headlines| it illegal. the pandemic is i dominated the headlines and it illegal. the pandemic is - dominated the headlines and now it illegal. the pandemic is _ dominated the headlines and now all eyes are on ukraine and the
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situation there, is there a temptation for politicians and the public, all of us, to forget sometimes that the threat still exists out there? it sometimes that the threat still exists out there?— sometimes that the threat still exists out there? it might drop out ofthe exists out there? it might drop out of the visible _ exists out there? it might drop out of the visible headlines, _ exists out there? it might drop out of the visible headlines, but - exists out there? it might drop out of the visible headlines, but i - exists out there? it might drop out| of the visible headlines, but i know the home secretary will be getting briefings every week and what is going on. it will be very much in her mind. going on. it will be very much in her mind-— her mind. and in terms of the olitical her mind. and in terms of the political pressure _ her mind. and in terms of the political pressure she - her mind. and in terms of the political pressure she is - her mind. and in terms of the j political pressure she is under her mind. and in terms of the i political pressure she is under in terms of the way that the police take it, i think the public are beginning to think we are a bit safe now, do you think? it is challenging and there is — now, do you think? it is challenging and there is a _ now, do you think? it is challenging and there is a campaign _ now, do you think? it is challenging and there is a campaign that - now, do you think? it is challenging | and there is a campaign that started when i was in the chair, about action counterterrorism and trying to keep surfacing with the public that everyone can contribute. when we look at cases where terrorists have got to the point of attack, different bits of research come up with different numbers but it is always the vast majority of cases that somebody in their life, family, friends or whatever, had seen some worrying signs on thatjourney.
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whilst we need powerful security services and police who are good at spotting terrorists but you also need the help of communities. i can think of cases that were solved which started from a nosy neighbour. you are a former assistant commissioner of the met police, you talked about culture in policing, how concerned are you about the level of trust that people have in the met police?— level of trust that people have in the met police? trust has taken a bi hit in the met police? trust has taken a big hit in policing, _ the met police? trust has taken a big hit in policing, and _ the met police? trust has taken a big hit in policing, and some - the met police? trust has taken a big hit in policing, and some of. the met police? trust has taken a. big hit in policing, and some of the data shows that it is not vanished to zero, there is still a large residual baseline interest in british policing but i think there are some big warning signs. i think the challenges of today for policing with so much crime online as well as knife crime and the poor prosecution levels, the pace of modern life and modern expectations, i think
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policing has dropped off the pace and i think there will be some big solutions needed to catch up. some of that will be police alone and some will be with others. a third of incidents that police go to are a result of mental health issues but they are not the best people to do that, but it is what they catch. the office of commissioner is open, have you thought about it? i office of commissioner is open, have you thought about it?— you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what _ you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what happens. _ you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what happens. if- you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what happens. if it - you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what happens. if it is - you thought about it? i don't know, i will see what happens. if it is a i i will see what happens. if it is a choice between _ i will see what happens. if it is a choice between that _ i will see what happens. if it is a choice between that job - i will see what happens. if it is a choice between that job and - i will see what happens. if it is a choice between that job and the | choice between thatjob and the writing job as a novelist, if this goes to hollywood, what would you do? ., , do? that is too hypothetical question- — do? that is too hypothetical question. the _ do? that is too hypothetical question. the fact _ do? that is too hypothetical question. the fact that - do? that is too hypothetical question. the fact that no i do? that is too hypothetical i question. the fact that no one do? that is too hypothetical - question. the fact that no one is slamming the book and no one is —— people are enjoying it, that is all at the moment. [10 people are enjoying it, that is all at the moment.— people are enjoying it, that is all at the moment. , ., ., ., ., at the moment. do you have another idea inside you? _
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at the moment. do you have another idea inside you? yes, _ at the moment. do you have another idea inside you? yes, we _ at the moment. do you have another idea inside you? yes, we quite - at the moment. do you have another idea inside you? yes, we quite got i idea inside you? yes, we quite got into the process, _ idea inside you? yes, we quite got into the process, david _ idea inside you? yes, we quite got into the process, david and - idea inside you? yes, we quite got into the process, david and i - into the process, david and i enjoyed it as mates doing a project together, so who knows. enjoyed it as mates doing a pro'ect together, so who knows.�* enjoyed it as mates doing a pro'ect together, so who knows. thank you ve much together, so who knows. thank you very much for— together, so who knows. thank you very much forjoining _ together, so who knows. thank you very much forjoining us. _ mark's debut novel is called 'the sleep of reason' and it's out now. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning, everyone. quite a mild start to the day this morning and this mildness will stay with us as we go to the next few days. it will become more widespread and as we head into the easter weekend, it will be often dry and bright and warm but there is a chance of rain at times, especially in parts of the north and west. there is also the risk of some coastal mist and fog. that is more likely to be across western coasts and part of the english channel. if that happens, it will depress the temperature. it will depress the temperature. it will depress the temperature. it will depress us as well especially if you have headed there for the weekend! keep in touch because that could change. this morning we have
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rain heading northwards, and another band of rain heading northwards in the south of england, heavy at times with the odd rumble of thunder. as it advances not it will eradicate the brighter start across southern england. it advances by midday into the southern uplands and clips northern ireland, northern england, the north midlands, wales and with the north midlands, wales and with the dregs into the south—west. it should brighten up in the south—west later and later we will see more sunshine coming through across the south—east. brisk winds, we will keep the temperature lower. the feel of it will be lower across the north sea coastline and the northern isles across the afternoon. nine to 16 degrees. the top temperature today is likely to be in the south—east, at 19 or 20 degrees. pollen levels today are moderate across much of england and wales, low in northern
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england, scotland and northern ireland. tomorrow for england and wales that is likely to go back up too high, tree pollen at this time of year. this evening the ranges across scotland, clear skies behind it, a few showers, mist and fog patches forming back some low cloud mist and fog draped round the west coast of england and wales. as a result it will not be a cold night. tomorrow we start off on a cloudy note, the rain in scotland pushing into the northern isles. the cloud slowly breaking with sunshine coming through and then we will see some scattered showers developing and some of them in england and wales could be heavy with potentially the odd rumble of thunder. one thing you will notice tomorrow, more widely the temperatures are rising so we are looking at between 11 and 20 degrees, 20 degrees more likely in the south—east. as we head into thursday, high—pressure exerts its influence across our shores so things will be quieter but fairly cloudy. and some lingering mist and
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fog along the west coast, possibly into the english channel as well. you can see the weather front in the wings, it will weaken as it bumps into the high pressure but we will see some rain in the west of northern ireland with temperatures eight to 20. on the weekend is all right? yes, it will be warm _ on the weekend is all right? yes, it will be warm at _ on the weekend is all right? yes, it will be warm at the _ on the weekend is all right? yes, it will be warm at the weekend, - on the weekend is all right? yes, it| will be warm at the weekend, here's the chart again, some chance of some rain against the north and west, and also some coastal mist and fog. if you are heading to the coast, it will hold back the temperature and you could see some drizzle coming from that. still a lot to play for, only tuesday. eat from that. still a lot to play for, only tuesday-— from that. still a lot to play for, only tuesday. eat your chocolate uuickl only tuesday. eat your chocolate quickly then. _ only tuesday. eat your chocolate quickly then. it _ only tuesday. eat your chocolate quickly then, it might _ only tuesday. eat your chocolate quickly then, it might melt! - only tuesday. eat your chocolate quickly then, it might melt! i - only tuesday. eat your chocolate | quickly then, it might melt! i like our quickly then, it might melt! i like yourthinking! — you'll probably know alistair mcgowan for his uncanny impressions of celebrities and politicians. but in recent years, he's been developing another talent. classical piano.
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about five years ago! i that was really you! it was filmed about five years ago!— that was really you! it was filmed about five years ago! i thought you were auoin about five years ago! i thought you were going to _ about five years ago! i thought you were going to tell _ about five years ago! i thought you were going to tell us _ about five years ago! i thought you were going to tell us that - about five years ago! i thought you were going to tell us that he - about five years ago! i thought you | were going to tell us that he played all of your— were going to tell us that he played all of your life and you learn is a very— all of your life and you learn is a very young _ all of your life and you learn is a very young child, but you just told us now _ very young child, but you just told us now that — very young child, but you just told us now that this is a relatively recent— us now that this is a relatively recent talent?— us now that this is a relatively recent talent? yes, i'm trying to fl the recent talent? yes, i'm trying to fly the flag _ recent talent? yes, i'm trying to fly the flag for — recent talent? yes, i'm trying to fly the flag for those _ recent talent? yes, i'm trying to fly the flag for those learning i fly the flag for those learning things later in life. i did two years when i was a kid and at age nine i was more interested in football and tennis so i gave it up for a0 years and ijust think it now and again, tried to learn a few pieces in my 30s and i thought it was too late. i played when i was a9 and someone heard and she said, you are very good, i can teach you, it is never too late to learn. that was seven years ago and since then i have released two albums and now i'm doing this tour. have released two albums and now i'm doing this tour-— doing this tour. what was the one iece that doing this tour. what was the one piece that you _ doing this tour. what was the one piece that you could _ doing this tour. what was the one piece that you could play? - piece that you could play? chopsticks! it piece that you could play? chopsticks!— piece that you could play? cho sticks! ., , ., , . ,y piece that you could play?
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choosticks! ., , ., , . ,, . chopsticks! it was a piece by eric satie, it sounds _ chopsticks! it was a piece by eric satie, it sounds simple - chopsticks! it was a piece by eric satie, it sounds simple but - chopsticks! it was a piece by eric satie, it sounds simple but it - chopsticks! it was a piece by eric satie, it sounds simple but it is i satie, it sounds simple but it is beautiful. i would say, aim for one piece and play it. that's what i did from satie. i have to give a nod to giles brandreth, i used to live near him, and he had me playing in a local church, and he said, play it live and then when you cold them you will be used to people —— when you record them. and then he said, you should do a show which combines your impressions and your music. so it is thanks to him that i'm doing the show. ., ., , ., thanks to him that i'm doing the show. ., .,, ., , thanks to him that i'm doing the show. ., ., , ,, ., show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! — show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! i — show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! i wonder— show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! i wonder if— show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! i wonder if it _ show. that was a spooky impression, he is here! i wonder if it is _ he is here! i wonder if it is because _ he is here! i wonder if it is because you have an ear for voices
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and accents — because you have an ear for voices and accents. is that basically the same _ and accents. is that basically the same thing as a musical ear? i don't know, same thing as a musical ear? i don't know. good — same thing as a musical ear? i don't know, good question. _ same thing as a musical ear? i don't know, good question. a _ same thing as a musical ear? i don't know, good question. a lot - same thing as a musical ear? i don't know, good question. a lot of- same thing as a musical ear? i don't| know, good question. a lot of people ask. it's about listening, and when you are playing the piano, there was a pianist who i used to love listening to and i could see him listening to and i could see him listening when he could play the piano. it is important to listen to yourself and stop performing live is another challenge, one thing in your living room but the minute you have gotten audience there, it's the most terrifying thing you have ever done. more terrifying than doing the voices? — more terrifying than doing the voices? , , �* , , voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you _ voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do _ voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do a _ voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do a voice _ voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do a voice for- voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do a voice for the - voices? oh, yes. it's interesting when you do a voice for the first time. the first time i did harry kane, you think, are people going to laugh at this? havel kane, you think, are people going to laugh at this? have i got it right? the people laugh straightaway, and then you know you have got it in the right area. but with the piano, there are so many ways of failing and going wrong within a piece and the music is there, it is written so
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people know if you do it wrong. so how is the show going to work? i think it is unique, i don't think people have done it before. people like tim minchin and bill bailey, they did shows where they would combine funny music, they would show you how funny the music is. mine is very much, four minutes of stand—up with impressions, whoever it might be, michael mosley who i am sure you're all familiar with on bt because he does everything —— on the bbc. it is very easy to slip into chris eubank when you do his impression! so then i will did —— do four minutes of music after four minutes of stand—up. it is four minutes of music after four minutes of stand-up.— minutes of stand-up. it is a difficult mood _
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minutes of stand-up. it is a difficult mood to _ minutes of stand-up. it is a difficult mood to manage, i minutes of stand-up. it is a - difficult mood to manage, serious music and making people laugh, how do you construct the performance? obs, do you construct the performance? little bit of crowbar and going on! we are familiar with that! perhaps an appreciation — we are familiar with that! perhaps an appreciation of _ we are familiar with that! perhaps an appreciation of johann - we are familiar with that! perhaps. an appreciation of johann sebastian an appreciation ofjohann sebastian back, it is like something like the repair shop, where people bring precious items to be repaired to death former glory. there is a little bit of crowbar!— death former glory. there is a little bit of crowbar! how did you choose the _ little bit of crowbar! how did you choose the music? _ little bit of crowbar! how did you choose the music? things - little bit of crowbar! how did you choose the music? things i - little bit of crowbar! how did you i choose the music? things i thought little bit of crowbar! how did you - choose the music? things i thought i could -la , choose the music? things i thought i could play. that _ choose the music? things i thought i could play, that were _ choose the music? things i thought i could play, that were challenging, i i could play, that were challenging, i have been doing the show for about four years and i change the pieces to give myself something to aim for. a lot of the time it is about, is that hook to this piece? for instance, ip or lay a piece by an argentinian composer who died in 1983, and my hope is whenever i
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think about argentina, i think of football, because it is a big part of people my age. i can go into the klopp or anything i want to do. when ifirst came to klopp or anything i want to do. when i first came to the club in liverpool, it was a big project, it wasn't going to happen overnight, the change. i can see in some areas we were yellowing, it was hard to see into the future and then i i made some input are now my teeth and my hair looks fantastic! horse made some input are now my teeth and my hair looks fantastic!— my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really _ my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really good, _ my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really good, he _ my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really good, he is - my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really good, he is in - my hair looks fantastic! how was that? really good, he is in the i that? really good, he is in the room! some — that? really good, he is in the room! some people _ that? really good, he is in the room! some people always i that? really good, he is in the | room! some people always get that? really good, he is in the i room! some people always get a lauah, room! some people always get a laugh. some _ room! some people always get a laugh, some voices, _ room! some people always get a laugh, some voices, and - room! some people always get a laugh, some voices, and some i room! some people always get a | laugh, some voices, and some do room! some people always get a - laugh, some voices, and some do not. some people i struggle to get a laugh out of his gareth southgate. i enjoy doing gareth but he is so low—key, he doesn't really sell a joke very well. the onlyjoke i can make about gareth is that he has no
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comedy potential whatsoever. ii gall comedy potential whatsoever. if you had to choose _ comedy potential whatsoever. if you had to choose between _ comedy potential whatsoever. if you had to choose between continuing as an impressionist or forging had to choose between continuing as an impressionist orforging ahead purely as a musician, what would you do? i purely as a musician, what would you do? ., ,.,,.,_ purely as a musician, what would you do? ., ., ., do? i would probably, i could not do one without — do? i would probably, i could not do one without the _ do? i would probably, i could not do one without the other. _ do? i would probably, i could not do one without the other. it _ do? i would probably, i could not do one without the other. it is - do? i would probably, i could not do one without the other. it is the - one without the other. it is the combination _ one without the other. it is the combination of _ one without the other. it is the combination of the _ one without the other. it is the combination of the two? - one without the other. it is the combination of the two? my i one without the other. it is the i combination of the two? my wife one without the other. it is the - combination of the two? my wife is a classically trained _ combination of the two? my wife is a classically trained singer... - combination of the two? my wife is a classically trained singer... do - combination of the two? my wife is a classically trained singer... do you i classically trained singer... do you duet? she — classically trained singer... do you duet? she is _ classically trained singer... do you duet? she is too _ classically trained singer... do you duet? she is too good! _ classically trained singer... do you duet? she is too good! giles - duet? she is too good! giles ltrandreth — duet? she is too good! giles brandreth has _ duet? she is too good! giles brandreth has already - duet? she is too good! giles brandreth has already said, | duet? she is too good! giles i brandreth has already said, you should do something together. i5 brandreth has already said, you should do something together. is he on 1096? she — should do something together. is he on 1096? she says, _ should do something together. is he on 1096? she says, you _ should do something together. is he on 1096? she says, you must- should do something together. is he on 1096? she says, you must make i should do something together. is he| on 1096? she says, you must make it clear that you _ on 1096? she says, you must make it clear that you are _ on 1096? she says, you must make it clear that you are not _ on 1096? she says, you must make it clear that you are not trained. - clear that you are not trained. because i do make mistakes and proper pianists do not make mistakes. if they do, they hide them well. i do have a propensity to go wrong, as part of the show, that is the usp. 50 wrong, as part of the show, that is the usp. _, , . ., . ~ ., wrong, as part of the show, that is| the usp-_ like the usp. so you 'ust crack on? like ou do the usp. so you 'ust crack on? like you do with — the usp. so you 'ust crack on? like you do with any — the usp. so you just crack on? like you do with any other— the usp. so you just crack on? like you do with any otherjob, - the usp. so you just crack on? like you do with any otherjob, you - the usp. so you just crack on? like you do with any otherjob, you just| you do with any otherjob, you just have to crack on. with the comic, is the same thing, one minute you are doing your frank skinner and talking as frank, and when you do an
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impression is you are thinking ahead. so i am thinking about my frank skinner impression, and thinking, isn't it strange that when coronavirus first started, all of the big stores started to close on one of the first one was simpsons, ironically proving that key workers were not key workers at all! but then i am _ were not key workers at all! but then i am thinking the head, and in then i am thinking the head, and in the piano you cannot think ahead because they were full of the piece. we need to hear that then you will fail and that he is. me we need to hear that then you will fail and that he is.— we need to hear that then you will fail and that he is. we need to hear our fail and that he is. we need to hear your steven — fail and that he is. we need to hear your steven gerard. _ fail and that he is. we need to hear your steven gerard. well, - fail and that he is. we need to hear your steven gerard. well, we - fail and that he is. we need to hear. your steven gerard. well, we played a lot of games. _ your steven gerard. well, we played a lot of games, behind _ your steven gerard. well, we played a lot of games, behind closed - your steven gerard. well, we played | a lot of games, behind closed doors, no fans allowed but a lot of clubs in scotland they didn't notice the difference. ., , ., difference. you will get us into trouble! he — difference. you will get us into trouble! he will— difference. you will get us into trouble! he will get _ difference. you will get us into trouble! he will get himself. difference. you will get us into i trouble! he will get himself into trouble! he will get himself into trouble! lovely _ trouble! he will get himself into trouble! lovely to _ trouble! he will get himself into trouble! lovely to meet - trouble! he will get himself into trouble! lovely to meet you. i trouble! lovely to meet you. inspiring about giving things a go,
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and trying to practice. it’s inspiring about giving things a go, and trying to practice.— and trying to practice. it's really iood for and trying to practice. it's really good for your— and trying to practice. it's really good for your brain _ and trying to practice. it's really good for your brain to _ and trying to practice. it's really good for your brain to learn - and trying to practice. it's reallyj good for your brain to learn new things— good for your brain to learn new things are _ good for your brain to learn new things are. so good for your brain to learn new things are-— good for your brain to learn new things are. so i'm told, certainly later in life. _ things are. so i'm told, certainly later in life, it's _ things are. so i'm told, certainly later in life, it's given _ things are. so i'm told, certainly later in life, it's given me - things are. so i'm told, certainly later in life, it's given me a - things are. so i'm told, certainlyj later in life, it's given me a huge zest and enthusiasm. i know you have got to move on, but doing impressions is doing harder because of the way that we watch tv now. people watch so many different platforms and channels, it's hard to come through as an impressionist and for people to continue to do whatever it is.— for people to continue to do whatever it is. you are forced to discover other _ whatever it is. you are forced to discover other options _ whatever it is. you are forced to discover other options and - discover other options and diversify. ih discover other options and diversify-— alistair�*s album is called the piano album volume two — and his uk tour the piano show continues untiljune. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8:59.
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