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welcome to bbc news. our top stories: on our exclusive visit to volodymyr zelensky�*s war bunker, ukraine's president tells the bbc continuing russian attacks are narrowing the chance for a peace deal. buchais bucha is in this process, closing these possibilities. bucha, pour —— murrie upon. it is not about me, it is more about russia. —— mariupol. russia says the flagship of its black sea fleet, the moskva, has sunk after an explosion, ukraine claims it hit the moskva with missiles. a british man whojoined
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the islamic state group in syria, is convicted in the us over the beheading of six westerners. shocking scenes in shanghai, clashes between the police and the people as the city's strict covid lockdown enters its third week. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky says european countries that continue to buy oilfrom russia are aiding the country's war against them, and they will have blood on their hands. he's urged western leaders to speed up the delivery of military aid to help ukraine. he's been talking to the bbc�*s clive myrie who sat down with president zelensky in his wartime bunker. mr president, clive myrie,
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a pleasure to meet you. it's good to see you. for the entirety of the war volodymyr zelensky has called this heavily fortified building home in the centre of kyiv. how difficult has it been for you to be here through all this without your family? it's myjob. i have to do it and it's difficult without a family being anywhere. his wife and children are safe at an undisclosed location. his companions here, heavily armed troops, sandbags and mines. at the start of the war they walked around in the darkness here, afraid of russian shelling. it's like our country, like our country is going through the dark. going through the darkness. to the victory, i hope so. as we enter what is labelled the situation room, the president gets a text.
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come on in. from macron. emmanuel macron. yeah, he phoned me, we have connections. 0k, he dropped you a message, oh, i can see it. i don't know! he just tried to reach you, my friend. when you have some time, so we are holding up mr macron. yeah. i can see the plus 33, that's paris. yeah. 0k? a few minutes later he returns. his preoccupation, a renewed military onslaught about to begin in the east. are you getting the right weapons you need from the west? translation: we need weapons today so we can fight. _ we cannot wait until some country decides to give or sell us weapons. some have not decided on this and we cannot wait two or three weeks or a month. the united states,
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united kingdom and some european countries are helping but we need it sooner, we need it now. is it enough? we don't think so. the priority word is sooner, the priority word is quickly and the priority word, now. he is a president who has been cut off from his people, a citizenry suffering unimaginable horrors at the hands of a ruthless adversary. he is full of hate, he says, for russia's troops and their leaders, gradually limiting the scope for peace talks. is vladimir putin a warcriminal? translation: ithink that everyone, anyone how do you sit across the table to try to stop the war? how do you do that? bucha is in this process closing this possibility. bucha, borodyanka, mariupol, so i don't have, you know, it's not about me, it's more about russia.
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they will not have so many chances. in the long period to speak with us. and what of those european countries? despite of the sanctions still sending billions to russia in oil and gas revenues. translation: we don't understand how - you can make money out of blood. unfortunately some european countries have done this. before the war began i spoke to chancellor merkel and said, if a full—scale invasion of ukraine happens they will go further into poland and, after that, they will be on your borders of germany. if that happened, would you say to young people it's fine, it's business, it's just business? how do you maintain hope?
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in the future, given everything that's happened? translation: it's not hope, its certainty. - that you will win. yes, of course. mr president, thank you. thank you so much. russia's defence ministry says the flagship of its black sea fleet, the cruiser moskva, has sunk, a day after ukraine said it had been hit by missiles. russia has not confirmed ukraine's claim, saying only there was a fire aboard that set off ammunition. the ship went down as it was being towed back to port in stormy weather. it's being described as a big blow to the russian fleet. tim allman reports. the scourge of the black sea now buried at the bottom of it. the moskva or moscow in english was a symbol of russia's military might and crucial to its operations in ukraine. what caused its demise remains disputed. ukraine says it had
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the moskva with neptune cruise missiles launched from the coast. russia would only admit there had been a fire on board after ammunition exploded. the 12 point 5000 ton ship was operating in an undisclosed location in the black sea when the incident occurred. it was being towed back to the port in bad weather when the moskva sunk. 50 bad weather when the moskva sunk. , bad weather when the moskva sunk, , , ., bad weather when the moskva sunk. , , ., ., ., sunk. so this is a real moment of truth for _ sunk. so this is a real moment of truth for russia. _ sunk. so this is a real moment of truth for russia. eventually | of truth for russia. eventually the truth typically does come out but there is usually some kind of narrative around it and this seems a bit more forthright than we have seen in many of the weeks preceding. the satellite images show the moskva import earlier this month. the warship had played a key role in russia's military campaign in syria and was leading the naval assault on ukraine. all this made it an important symbolic and military targets. it important symbolic and military taraets. , , ., ,, important symbolic and military taraets. ,, ., . targets. it is perhaps ironic that on the _
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targets. it is perhaps ironic that on the day _ targets. it is perhaps ironic that on the day it - targets. it is perhaps ironic that on the day it sank - targets. it is perhaps ironic that on the day it sank the | that on the day it sank the ukrainian postal service issued these stamps marking a famous moment of the start of the war when border guards defied a russian ship on an island in the black sea. that ship is believed to be the moskva. translation: pm believed to be the moskva. translation: �* ., translation: an important event ha - ened. translation: an important event happened- our— translation: an important event happened. our armed _ translation: an important event happened. our armed forces - happened. 0ur armed forces destroyed the aggressor�*s flagship. i think this event has to have a place in everyone's memory. the truth of what really happened to the moskva will perhaps never be known, but it will play no further part in this war or any was. h, . further part in this war or any was. ,., . ., further part in this war or any was. . ., , further part in this war or any was. ., , was. the impact of its loss on russia's military _ was. the impact of its loss on russia's military plans - was. the impact of its loss on russia's military plans is - was. the impact of its loss on russia's military plans is also| russia's military plans is also unclear, but this is the biggest warship to be sunk by enemy action since the second world war. for more about what the russian�*s are saying about the sinking of their black sea flagship, our russia editor steve rosenberg gave us this update from moscow. as the symbol of russia's black sea fleet, the moskva was an enormous symbol,
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a symbol of russia's military might. and the fact that this symbol has been engulfed in fire, has been put out of action, has now sunk while being towed back to harbour — that, ithink, is a major blow to the prestige of the russian armed forces. and it kind of goes against what president putin was saying just a couple of days ago when he declared that what he calls his special military operation was going according to plan. talking of president putin, a couple of things struck me, clive, when i was listening to your interview. the first thing is how different the presidents of russia and ukraine are. 0n the one hand, you've got president zelensky trying to get his message out to the world, giving interviews to western journalists. vladimir putin hasn't given interviews to the western media since russia attacked ukraine. but there's one thing the two men have in common — publicly, at least, they both insist they're going to win.
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let's get more analysis now on the significance of the sinking of the moskva, i'm joined now byjeffrey edmonds, former directorfor russia on national security council and a former senior russian naval analyst at the cia. thanks forjoining us, geoffrey. the bbc can't verify the claim of russia or ukraine about the sinking of the ship butjust for a moment let's suppose, let's imagine that ukraine did think it. are they capable of doing that, do they have the weaponry? this is a huge military ship talking about, isn't it? i huge military ship talking about, isn't it?— huge military ship talking about, isn't it? i think they do about, isn't it? ithink they do but it— about, isn't it? ithink they do but it would _ about, isn't it? ithink they do but it would have - about, isn't it? ithink they do but it would have beenl about, isn't it? ithink they| do but it would have been a challenge stopping the neptune missal they've acquired is a fairly new muscle, they could have fired it from the coast, but the moskva had have fired it from the coast, but th defensive |ad have fired it from the coast,
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but th defensive systems have fired it from the coast, but th defensive s} in ms have fired it from the coast, but th defensive s} in naval played a huge role in naval diplomacy, going back into the cold war and it has really been a symbol of russian power abroad and so for it to sink in these conditions is really a blow to russian national prestige. blow to russian national prestige-— blow to russian national restiue. ~ ., ~' ., prestige. what we know about the fate of _
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prestige. what we know about the fate of the _ prestige. what we know about the fate of the 500 _ prestige. what we know about the fate of the 500 plus - prestige. what we know about| the fate of the 500 plus crew? that is some evacuation, isn't it? what is likely to happen to them, whatever the cause of the sinking ship. it them, whatever the cause of the sinking ship-— sinking ship. it is hard to sa , sinking ship. it is hard to say. the _ sinking ship. it is hard to say, the russians - sinking ship. it is hard to say, the russians are - sinking ship. it is hard to . say, the russians are saying that most of them are evacuated and given the timeframe that we are talking about, it's likely that many of them were. it also stands to reason that there obviously would have been some, when you have an explosion on a ship you are going to have casualties so i assume there were some casualties initially and that they were able to evacuate many of the sailors off the ship. evacuate many of the sailors off the ship-— evacuate many of the sailors off the ship. before we let you no off the ship. before we let you go geoffrey. — off the ship. before we let you go geoffrey. just _ off the ship. before we let you go geoffrey, just because - off the ship. before we let you go geoffrey, just because of. go geoffrey, just because of your insight into russia, particularly its military and its thinking, something that is a bit like playing 3—dimensional chess, how is this invasion of ukraine, how is this war going for russia? every week it does seem to change. every week it does seem to chance. �* ., , ., , change. i'm not sure how poorly it's auoin change. i'm not sure how poorly it's going for _ change. i'm not sure how poorly it's going for russia _ change. i'm not sure how poorly it's going for russia stopping . it's going for russia stopping the reason they are focusing on the reason they are focusing on the east is because they simply have not been able to achieve
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their strategic goal which was kyiv. they literally were not able to do that so all they can do is focus on the east where they already have a presence, a lot of their operations are simplified if they concentrate there and perhaps the most of there and perhaps the most of the russian leaders can be helpful for is to leave ukraine with just a little bit more than what they had and that is just inaudible. so it has really gone quite poorly. the moskva isjust so it has really gone quite poorly. the moskva is just the top of the cake here. it shows just how poorly the russian military has done in ukraine. many thanks for your analysis there. let's take a look at some other stories in the headlines. the world's richest person, tesla boss elon musk, has offered to buy the social media platform twitter. mr musk said he would pay $54 a share for the company, valuing it at $40 billion. twitter�*s share price immediately soared at the news of the offer but some major shareholders including
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the saudi prince, al waleed bin talal, have already rejected the proposal. scores of people are still missing in the philippines following floods and mudslides triggered by tropical storm meghi. more than 130 are now confirmed to have died. the islands are battered by more than 20 storms a year and scientists have warned the number could rise because of climate change. plans to send some asylum seekers who arrive in the uk to live in rwanda have been described as "absolutely chilling" by charities and politicians. britain's home secretary priti patel, who travelled to rwandan capital kigali to sign the deal, said the "vast majority" of those arriving in the uk illegally would be considered for relocation to rwanda. the government says the system would reduce people smuggling and discourage people from trying to reach britain in small boats. but the united nations' refugee
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agency said people fleeing conflict and persecution deserved compassion and empathy, and should not be traded like commodities. police in michigan have released video footage of a white officer shooting dead a black man during a confrontation. it shows patrick lyoya being shot in the back of the head as the two men wrestle after a traffic stop. 0ur correspondentjohn sudworth has the story. a warning, his report contains some distressing images. the prose have remained peaceful, though anger is high. hey, stay in the car! stay in the car! it began as a routine police matter, with 26—year—old patrick lyoya pulled over in his car by a white officer in a michigan suburb. do you have a driver's licence? do you speak english? yes. but what happened next has once again put the question of racialjustice and
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policing right back in the national spotlight. 1915, we've got one running. as mr lyoya tries to get away, there's a struggle over the police taser before mr lyoya is forced face down to the ground. let go of the taser! and then, as the struggle continues, the police officer draws his gun gunshot ..and fires one fatal shot to the back of the head. at a press conference, his mother and father, who'd fled the war in congo eight years ago, spoke of their anger that their son had been killed by a bullet on the streets of america. i'm asking forjustice. applause i'm asking for justice for patrick. what do we want? justice! protests have already been held over the ten days since the shooting, but now the release of the video has the potential to spark a wider outcry. the officer, whose name has not yet been released, faces an investigation — while america yet again
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grapples with the questions posed by a police shooting of an unarmed black man. john sudworth, bbc news, washington. a former british national who joined the islamic state group in syria, has been found guilty in the united states of hostage taking and conspiracy related to the murders of four americans in syria. el shafee elsheikh was part of an is militant cell dubbed �*the beatles' by hostages because of their british accents. a warning — you may find some of this report by nomia iqbal distressing. nearly a decade later, el shafee elsheikh will finally pay for his crimes. he has been found guilty of being a member of the gang who kidnapped and beheaded hostages in syria. the victims were american journalists james foley, steven sotloff, and aid workers peter kassig and kayla mueller. he also conspired in the deaths of british aid workers
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david haines and alan henning. none of their bodies have ever been found. they were killed in an act of barbarism that shocked the world, and now, theirfamilies have finally got justice. it was a lot more emotional. i expected to be happy, excited but, you know, it's the realisation that, you know, he's guilty, and what he's done to all the families, all the hostages. i've not slept a full night's sleep, probably, since my dad was killed in 2014. so, hopefully, tonight, i'll get a full night's sleep. he was given the best, in terms of mercy and justice, as opposed to what our citizens and the british citizens went through. all of them have been in court every day, reliving the nightmare. kayla mueller�*s mother wept on the stand, as she read out ransom e—mails sent by elsheikh, saying the gang wanted millions for her daughter to be freed. former hostages who were released
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after the ransom was paid described elsheikh and his accomplices as "sadists", who electrocuted, water—boarded and starved them. one said he tried to kill himself to escape. the defence tried to make out this was a case of mistaken identity, relying on the fact he always wore a full mask around hostages. when the verdicts came through, elsheikh showed very little reaction. the families quietly wept, held each other�*s hands, and there was an audible sigh of relief. it's taken them nearly ten years to getjustice. we can now speak to javed ali who's a former senior counterterrorism official on the us national security council. you have quite a lot of insight and involvement in the us government procedure to bring him tojustice, which government procedure to bring him to justice, which as we just heard there, wasn't easy,
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was it? ., just heard there, wasn't easy, was it? . ., ., was it? thanks for having me, this was a _ was it? thanks for having me, this was a major _ was it? thanks for having me, this was a major development| this was a major development today in terms of the guilty verdict from the jury. but, today in terms of the guilty verdict from thejury. but, as you mentioned, when el sheikh and the other man were captured in syria and early 2018 by the syrian government forces that touched off an intense round of discussions and negotiations to try to find out how to bring these two men to justice and if so, where. that led to quite an odyssey over the past few years in order to deliver the verdict we saw today. do in order to deliver the verdict we saw today.— in order to deliver the verdict we saw today. do you think the does pave _ we saw today. do you think the does pave the _ we saw today. do you think the does pave the way _ we saw today. do you think the does pave the way for - we saw today. do you think the does pave the way for more - does pave the way for more trials and more justice like this, they are just the tip of the iceberg aren't they? they are, el sheikh, _ the iceberg aren't they? they are, el sheikh, at— the iceberg aren't they? they are, el sheikh, at least- the iceberg aren't they? they are, el sheikh, at least for. are, el sheikh, at least for the united states is the most significant isis prisoner to face trial here. the trial for
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the paris attacks in 2018. are there other similar high profile prisoners in syria and iraq and evidence that can be used in an open court much like with abdul salom in france are now shaken united states, that's a question because that has to be part of process, not only are the legal challenges but evidence can be bought forward, part of the evidence so compelling for the jury in the case of el sheikh was the testimony of the former victims. testimony of the former victims-— testimony of the former victims. ~ . �* ., �* victims. we haven't and i'm touching — victims. we haven't and i'm touching wood _ victims. we haven't and i'm touching wood here, - victims. we haven't and i'm touching wood here, we - victims. we haven't and i'm - touching wood here, we haven't seen major terrorist attacks in europe or america for some time now, world has had a lot of other things its mind as well. now we are seeing justice prevailing here, is that the end of the isis threat now, as this trial and others like it likely to put people off, engaging in what is, an ideology, a highly organised
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ideology? ideology, a highly organised ideolo: ? , , ., �* ideology? firstly, i don't think the _ ideology? firstly, i don't think the answer - ideology? firstly, i don't think the answer to - ideology? firstly, i don't think the answer to that l ideology? firstly, i don't. think the answer to that is yes. isis still exists as a group although it is a different form and feature in iraq and syria, it is now more of a clandestine insurgency than a group trying to hold lots of territory and create a caliphate and do other things that did at the height of its influence on the 2010s but there are still probably thousands of isis fighters in iraq and syria, and then as you mentioned the ideology continues to exist, and even though as you said there is not been a major isis inspired direct attack in the united states or europe, for a few years now, that doesn't mean the threat potentially can't surface again, especially because the ideology is still there. all it will take a somebody who still believes in the ideology they are continuing to promote multiple languages across social media and internet to step forward
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and internet to step forward and try to conduct another high—profile attack. firstly, i don't think the threat has gone away but the isis we knew which was this fearsome group that again was so different to anything we have seen in the post—9/11 era that type of organisation is definitely on its back foot right now. still not really — its back foot right now. still not really the _ its back foot right now. still not really the answer - its back foot right now. still not really the answer we wanted to hear but one we certainly expected, i suppose. to hear but one we certainly expected, isuppose. thank to hear but one we certainly expected, i suppose. thank you so much for that insight. let's turn to china now — where there are signs of growing tension in shanghai after video emerged of a confrontation between police and people being forced out of their homes as the city enters its third week of a covid lockdown. clashes occurred as police forcibly moved people out of residential compounds, which are being turned into temporary quarantine centres. 0ur correspondent robin brant reports from shanghai. crowd shouts.
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three weeks into lockdown, some here in shanghai are angry. in broad daylight, a confrontation. the police up against the people. horns honk. woman screams. scenes like this have become increasingly unusual here, but then, so is locking down almost 25 million people. head to toe in protective suits, in an eastern district of the city, officers were forcing people out of their rented apartments ..so they could turn them into temporary quarantine facilities, all in the name ofa waragainst a resurgent covid. but for some, it was just too much. their homes sequestered, their desperation easy for all to hear. woman cries. a few miles away, there was an organised protest — a bold stand
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as the lockdown takes hold. in a country where you can be arrested for picking quarrels, they're angry about a local school being turned into another quarantine facility. police with riot shields forced them off the streets in the end. this was on a small scale but it's a sign of anger and frustration as this lockdown goes on. larger scale social unrest is what the ruling communist party fears the most and would likely tolerate the least. robin brant, bbc news, shanghai. and a bit of news that's come from germany yesterday, where the berlin zoo celebrated the birthday of a rather historic gorilla. her name is fatou and yesterday, she turned a stunning 65 years old. for context, the average lifespan for most western lowland gorillas is
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roughly 35 to a0 years. she is doing well. happy birthday. hello there. the weather this easter�*s looking pretty decent across much of the country. could see a little bit of rain pushing into the far north and west of the uk as we head through easter sunday into easter monday. but i think for many, it will stay fine, dry and pretty warm. temperatures into the low 20s celsius across the warmest part of the south and east of england. we'll have these weather fronts across more western areas, but this high pressure will continue to exert its force and keep them out at bay. so, for good friday, many places will start dry with some sunshine through central and eastern areas. a bit of coastal mist and fog around. further west, closer to those weather fronts, we'll have more cloud — northern ireland,
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southwest scotland, along irish sea coasts down into southwest england, the odd shower around here. the odd shower could develop elsewhere as temperatures reach the low 20s across the southeast. most places, though, will be dry, and for many, it's going to be mild with light winds. as we head through friday night, most places will be dry. any showers will die away. we'll see some low cloud, mist and fog returning, particularly across more southern and western areas. for many, it's going to be a mild night, but under clearer skies across the east, could be fairly chilly. so, for saturday, another dry day, plenty of sunshine from the word go across the southeast. after that cool start, temperatures will rise. again, there is a very slim chance of a shower most places will be dry with sunny spells. bit more cloud across the very far west. temperatures, again, mid—to—high teens, low 20s in the warmest spots. now, this is where we start to see a little bit of difference, a little change to the weather through easter sunday into monday. we could start to see our area of high pressure break down. that'll allow low pressure to push in from the west, but pushing weather fronts from west to east. but because these weather fronts will try to bump into this area of high pressure,
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they will be fizzling as they try to track their way eastwards. i think easter sunday, the very far west of the country looks like it will see some cloud and rain. elsewhere, most of the country will be dry again with plenty of sunshine, and it'll be quite warm with temperatures reaching 20 or 21 degrees. as we move into easter monday, that front clears eastern areas — barely anything on it. slightly fresher day to come for many, with low pressure to the north of the uk. could be quite windy across northern scotland, one or two showers here. but elsewhere, i think it looks largely fine, dry and settled, with temperatures a little bit lower.
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a warning, his report contains some distressing images. this is bbc news, the headlines: volodymyr zelensky�*s criticised eu countries that continue to buy russian oil saying they're are aiding the country's attack on ukraine. the bbc had an exclusive interview with the ukrainian president inside his war bunker, in which he urged western leaders to speed up the delivery of weapons to ukraine. russia says a warship that was damaged by an explosion on wednesday has sunk. it said moskva, the flagship of russia's black sea fleet, was being towed to port when stormy seas caused it to sink. ukraine say they hit the warship with missiles. a former british national
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