this is bbc news. the headlines... the russian defence ministry says it has cleared the entire urban area of mariupol of ukrainian forces, claiming that ukraine has lost more than 4000 fighters in the city. the bbc hasn't been able to verify these claims. russia has formally warned

the united states and its allies against supplying further weapons to ukraine. russia said us arms shipments were adding fuel to the conflict and could lead to what it called "unpredictable consequences". russia has banned borisjohnson, the uk foreign secretary, liz truss, and defence secretary, ben wallace, from entering the country. the kremlin says the decision has been made in retaliation to london's sanctions. disaster teams in the south african province of kwazulu—natal are on high alert for further floods, as more rain is forecast in the area this weekend. at least 400 people are now known to have died. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are martin bentham,

home affairs editor at the evening standard, and broadcaster matthew stadlen. thank you very much indeed for joining us. let mejust show thank you very much indeed for joining us. let me just show you what we've got at the moment. the observer leads with the archbishop of canterbury's criticism of the government's plan to send asylum—seekers to rwanda, saying it is "against of the nature of god". the archbishop's comments are also on the front of the sunday telegraph. he is expected to say in his easter sermon that he has serious ethical questions about sending—asylum seekers overseas. "priti heartless" is how the sunday mirror describes the rwanda plan, saying that orphans of genocide will lose their home to make way for refugees from the uk. "punish eco mob now," reads the front of the sunday express, referring to the results of a poll the paper has carried out on tougher laws to pub. claiming britain has lost patience with eco—extremists and wants to see police crackdown on protests. that's according to a poll carried out by the paper.

and of the sunday times leads with a report that epilepsy and the sunday times leads with a report that epilepsy medication has been given to pregnant women in the uk for decades without proper warnings and is thought to have damaged up to 20,000 babies. let us begin. thank you both very much forjoining us. martin, ifi martin, if i could start with you on the observer. the rwanda plan is quote unquote against the judgment of god. this address that we're going to see is making the front pages of most of the papers we have today. pages of most of the papers we have toda . , �* , pages of most of the papers we have toda. , ., _ pages of most of the papers we have toda. , ., today. yes, it's obviously been runnina today. yes, it's obviously been running for _ today. yes, it's obviously been running for a — today. yes, it's obviously been running for a few— today. yes, it's obviously been running for a few days - today. yes, it's obviously been running for a few days ever- today. yes, it's obviously been l running for a few days ever since the government announce this on thursday. the archbishop's and for mention is very powerful against it. —— and intervention. and clearly, it

just illustrates the moral dilemma about this. the home office has been rather misleading because i attended a briefing in which it was made clear that the people who were sent to rwanda would not be people being considered for asylum here. we know you uk... not thejournalist�*s fault, but a flying that people would be coming across the channel, put on a plane... that's not what it says. it's suggesting that it can be rejected, will be sent to rwanda and then they can make separate claims there. . , ., ., there. once they have had their as lum

there. once they have had their asylum claim — there. once they have had their asylum claim processed - there. once they have had their asylum claim processed here? | there. once they have had their - asylum claim processed here? well, this is where — asylum claim processed here? well, this is where it's _ asylum claim processed here? well, this is where it's unclear. _ asylum claim processed here? well, this is where it's unclear. they - this is where it's unclear. they have an opportunity to... having a chance to appeal against anything to remove them. h0 chance to appeal against anything to remove them-— remove them. no one's decision is measured in _ remove them. no one's decision is measured in days? _ remove them. no one's decision is measured in days? no, _ remove them. no one's decision is measured in days? no, i— remove them. no one's decision is measured in days? no, i think- remove them. no one's decision is measured in days? no, i think the| measured in days? no, i think the reali measured in days? no, ithink the reali is measured in days? no, i think the reality is that _ measured in days? no, i think the reality is that the _ measured in days? no, i think the reality is that the rhetoric - measured in days? no, i think the reality is that the rhetoric won't i reality is that the rhetoric won't be delivered. a lot of people will arrive here, claim asylum and you can't send somebody out of the country without an asylum claim. that would be illegal. fik. country without an asylum claim. that would be illegal.— that would be illegal. ok. i think we 'ust that would be illegal. ok. i think we just need _ that would be illegal. ok. i think we just need to _ that would be illegal. ok. i think we just need to clarify _ that would be illegal. ok. i think we just need to clarify exactly... | we just need to clarify exactly... the way it's been covered is that anyone who comes here will potentially be sent to rwanda if they come here illegally before their asylum claim has been made. i don't think that's... it's all very

confusing. i'm not quite sure it's quite as straightforward as that. there's been a lot of concern about whether this will go ahead. the point is here... if i should just bring in matthew, the archbishop making a very unusually political intervention, and he's quoted saying this is subcontracting our responsibility. this is a very big decision for him to weigh in like this. ~ �* , this. indeed. ithink it's the famous this. indeed. i think it's the famous saying _ this. indeed. i think it's the famous saying that - this. indeed. i think it's the famous saying that a - this. indeed. i think it's the famous saying that a weekl this. indeed. i think it's the. famous saying that a week is this. indeed. i think it's the i famous saying that a week is a this. indeed. i think it's the - famous saying that a week is a long time in _ famous saying that a week is a long time in politics, are taught —— we -et time in politics, are taught —— we get three — time in politics, are taught —— we get three massive stories every week in westminster. ukraine knocked off the front_ in westminster. ukraine knocked off the front pages tomorrow morning. interestingly, i think, the front pages tomorrow morning. interestingly, ithink, boris jonathan and rishi sunak, the two

most _ jonathan and rishi sunak, the two most powerful men in the country, their— most powerful men in the country, their fines — most powerful men in the country, their fines for blocking their own iockdown — their fines for blocking their own lockdown rules also not on the front pages _ lockdown rules also not on the front pages -- _ lockdown rules also not on the front pages —— borisjohnson. this extraordinary intervention by the archbishop of canterbury, who describos— archbishop of canterbury, who describes this flagship policy of the government's as ungodly, not part in_ the government's as ungodly, not part in the — the government's as ungodly, not part in the test of god —— passing the test — part in the test of god —— passing the test. the weight of responsibility that we have as a christian— responsibility that we have as a christian country. borisjohnson is known _ christian country. borisjohnson is known for— christian country. borisjohnson is known for his critics. people say he fiings _ known for his critics. people say he fiings a _ known for his critics. people say he flings a dead cat in the room to distract— flings a dead cat in the room to distract unhelpful headlines. this would _ distract unhelpful headlines. this would appear to be the latest, and yet would appear to be the latest, and vet he _ would appear to be the latest, and yet he cannot have been expected that such — yet he cannot have been expected that such a — yet he cannot have been expected that such a senior christian should choose _ that such a senior christian should choose his easter sermon effectively to slam _ choose his easter sermon effectively to slam his— choose his easter sermon effectively to slam his abnormal —— how immoral

this policy— to slam his abnormal —— how immoral this policy is — cani can ijust can i just bring can ijust bring in the sunday telegraph? the sunday mirror has got pretty heartless —— priti heartless. that is referring to the place in row window. they say currently has 22 residents who are young, often refugees who will be removed —— orphan refugees. to make room for uk asylum—seekers. i guess the question is, is this going to happen, is this going to be politically damaging? the going to happen, is this going to be politically damaging?— politically damaging? the former justice secretary, _ politically damaging? the former justice secretary, former- justice secretary, former conservative, turfed out of the party _ conservative, turfed out of the party by — conservative, turfed out of the party by borisjohnson's purge. he's been _ party by borisjohnson's purge. he's been saying on twitter this week

that effectively, this is an attempt by boris _ that effectively, this is an attempt by borisjohnson to that effectively, this is an attempt by boris johnson to cut out the threat — by boris johnson to cut out the threat from the right. it's not necessarily a serious policy, of course — necessarily a serious policy, of course it — necessarily a serious policy, of course it would be for those who might _ course it would be for those who might actually be sent to rwanda. but it's_ might actually be sent to rwanda. but it's an — might actually be sent to rwanda. but it's an attempt to prevent attack _ but it's an attempt to prevent attack and threats from the right. but i _ attack and threats from the right. but i can— attack and threats from the right. but i can tell you right now one of the other— but i can tell you right now one of the other headlines on the front pages _ the other headlines on the front pages is — the other headlines on the front pages is concern amongst some that the tories _ pages is concern amongst some that the tories are alienating their core traditional— the tories are alienating their core traditional votes. this will not go down _ traditional votes. this will not go down well— traditional votes. this will not go down well in the heartlands. the idea that — down well in the heartlands. the idea that the archbishop of canterbury is essentially saying this government is ungodly. | canterbury is essentially saying this government is ungodly. i was actually going _ this government is ungodly. i was actually going to _ this government is ungodly. i was actually going to bring _ this government is ungodly. i was actually going to bring that - this government is ungodly. i —" actually going to bring that in, because it on the observer. lots of people speculating that the announcement was brought out because they are facing so much heat with more fines of expected on partygate. senior tories fear it will alienate

the traditional votes. we will see a test of public opinion soon. i the traditional votes. we will see a test of public opinion soon.- test of public opinion soon. i think 'ust auoin test of public opinion soon. i think just going back. — test of public opinion soon. i think just going back, the _ test of public opinion soon. i think just going back, the politics - test of public opinion soon. i think just going back, the politics of - test of public opinion soon. i think just going back, the politics of it l just going back, the politics of it all is different. i think it's very questionable. i don't think it would necessarily be politically for the government. it would not appeal to other people, but it might not damage... this story is the partygate fine, which is a much different story, and one that i think it does resonate with lots and lots of people, including the conservative point of view. a lot of people who switched the votes in the so—called red ball voters, and the public more generally is very fed up about what's happening —— red wall. lots of people want borisjohnson to resign, a majority if he receives a

third fine. it's quite likely he will receive further fines. that issue cuts right to the heart of decent behaviour and law—abiding behaviour. everyone else having to comply with these very restrictive rules, on the basis it was necessary. they are also being broken by those who are making them. i think that's a very toxic thing for the prime minister, and of course, he survived in the first... but it goes forward. we look at the opinion polls and think if he's the right person. opinion polls and think if he's the right person-— right person. sorry to cut in, we haven't got _ right person. sorry to cut in, we haven't got very _ right person. sorry to cut in, we haven't got very much _ right person. sorry to cut in, we haven't got very much time. - right person. sorry to cut in, we | haven't got very much time. the observer is quoting the immigration observer is quoting the immigration minister, who is sticking to her

decision to submit a no—confidence vote. decision to submit a no-confidence vote. �* , decision to submit a no-confidence vote. �*, . ,. . decision to submit a no-confidence vote. �*, . �* decision to submit a no-confidence vote. �*, . . ., decision to submit a no-confidence vote. �*, ., ~ ., , vote. it's fascinating. all of us will talk to _ vote. it's fascinating. all of us will talk to some _ vote. it's fascinating. all of us will talk to some people - vote. it's fascinating. all of us will talk to some people and l vote. it's fascinating. all of us i will talk to some people and will say, for— will talk to some people and will say, for goodness' sake, why are we worrying _ say, for goodness' sake, why are we worrying about a bottle of beer or a bit worrying about a bottle of beer or a hit of _ worrying about a bottle of beer or a hit of cake? — worrying about a bottle of beer or a bit of cake? remember where we were back then _ bit of cake? remember where we were back then. we were not allowed to lead our own homes apart from exercising _ lead our own homes apart from exercising. these are extraordinary times— exercising. these are extraordinary times in— exercising. these are extraordinary times in which we had to obey the rules— times in which we had to obey the rules of— times in which we had to obey the rules of the — times in which we had to obey the rules of the prime minister and the chancellor— rules of the prime minister and the chancellor and this government, so there _ chancellor and this government, so there are _ chancellor and this government, so there are still a lot of people who have _ there are still a lot of people who have been— there are still a lot of people who have been through a lot of pain who will he _ have been through a lot of pain who will be seriously upset at the way they think— will be seriously upset at the way they think the double standards have been exercised. i think this will play— been exercised. i think this will play quite — been exercised. i think this will play quite badly. i think the sunday express— play quite badly. i think the sunday express has a poll that suggests a majority— express has a poll that suggests a majority of us want to move on. it's not entirely— majority of us want to move on. it's not entirely clear that this is as damaging now as it might have been at the _ damaging now as it might have been at the heat _ damaging now as it might have been at the heat of this back in january. we had _ at the heat of this back in january. we had the — at the heat of this back in january. we had the ukraine war interceded and some — we had the ukraine war interceded and some people think the prime minister— and some people think the prime minister has done a good job.

let's just quickly finished, sorry to rush you both. robots could be used to pick fruit. martin, how will this go down? i think it makes sense if it's feasible. we've always had long—standing problems. one of the things is having to change to that. they can't do it because the fruits are often... i think in the long run, it would make sense to be able to industrialise those processes because it would solve those problems and make it more efficient. matthew, do you think this is going to be a popular pragmatic solution? because there is a shortage of labour but covid plays its part and ukraine plays its part in these problems.

ukraine plays its part in these problems-— ukraine plays its part in these roblems. . ., , , �* problems. yeah, apparently, we've moved to grape _ problems. yeah, apparently, we've moved to grape seed _ problems. yeah, apparently, we've moved to grape seed oil _ problems. yeah, apparently, we've moved to grape seed oil because i moved to grape seed oil because there _ moved to grape seed oil because there is— moved to grape seed oil because there is a — moved to grape seed oil because there is a shortage of sunflower oil. there is a shortage of sunflower oil i_ there is a shortage of sunflower oil ithink— there is a shortage of sunflower oil. i think we're self—sufficient on wheat, _ oil. i think we're self—sufficient on wheat, but this isn't necessarily for the _ on wheat, but this isn't necessarily for the immediate future. there's a problem _ for the immediate future. there's a problem with the robots at the moment _ problem with the robots at the moment. they're not dexterous enough to pick— moment. they're not dexterous enough to pick fruit _ moment. they're not dexterous enough to pick fruit like raspberry and strawberries without losing them. there _ strawberries without losing them. there is _ strawberries without losing them. there is this idea, first time i read — there is this idea, first time i read about— there is this idea, first time i read about it, i think it's vertical farming, — read about it, i think it's vertical farming, whereby crops are grown in warehouses — farming, whereby crops are grown in warehouses. maybe that makes it easier— warehouses. maybe that makes it easier for— warehouses. maybe that makes it easier for them to be picked, and more _ easier for them to be picked, and more inviolate —— more environmentally friendly. far greater — environmentally friendly. far greater clampdown on these egos... thank you very much indeed for trying to get through these stories. martin bentham and matthew stadlen will be back again at 11:30.

goodbye for now. hey, welcome, welcome, welcome! lara lewington, what is the craziest thing you've ever bought on ebay? um, slippers? dogs — dog slippers! i wondered where that was going. ok, i did ask for crazy. well, look, do you remember the times when you bid on an item and you thought you were going to win the auction, and then in the dying few seconds, you were beaten by someone else? yes, they weren't real people, though, were they? no, they weren't. they were computer programmes designed to work really fast and beat you to the bid button, and i hated them. no—one did that to my dog slippers, though.

can't imagine why. well, look, now, this idea is being used in new ways,