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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are writer and broadcaster kate bevan and nigel nelson, political editor at the sunday mirror and sunday people.. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the telegraph leads on the downing street parties and says the prime minister is accused of instigating a drinks
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party. the daily mirror has a similar story on its front page — saying borisjohnson encouraged staff to "let off steam" as covid rules were broken. the i describes the prime minister as facing a "triple threat" over the downing street parties. mps return on tuesday, he'll face prime minister's questions and a possible vote of censure too. the guardian's front page highlights that women in the poorest areas of england are dying earlier than the average female in almost every comparable country in the world. the daily mail says ministers have rounded on the the archbishop of canterbury after he criticised the uk's plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda. meanwhile the yorkshire post says a second senior church leader — the archbishop of york — has condemned the asylum plan. and the financial times warns that slowing growth, high inflation and the war in ukraine are all threatening the world's economic recovery. so let's begin...
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let's get cracking. hello to you both. lovely to see you both. kate, let's start with a story on the front page of blocks of the papers. the front page of the mirror which has a pretty straightforward headline, really. it says has a pretty straightforward headline, really. it sastohnson led the boozy party. one of the details here?— led the boozy party. one of the details here? same story in the teleu-rah details here? same story in the telegraph of— details here? same story in the telegraph of coors. _ details here? same story in the telegraph of coors. the - details here? same story in the telegraph of coors. the story i details here? same story in the telegraph of coors. the story isi telegraph of coors. the story is instead ofjust merely being at the party has been suggested he apparently started the party out himself. if you read in the telegraph it says although the party didn't actually get started until mr johnson turned up. that's quite late explosive allegation. the telegraph also point out the photographer is said to have been there as well. dominic cummings were threatening there were photographs floating around from these events. if any surface i think the prime minister is in for a very rocky time on tuesday. is in for a very rocky time on tuesday-— is in for a very rocky time on tuesda . , ., ., ., tuesday. do you agree with that, ni . el? tuesday. do you agree with that, niel? i tuesday. do you agree with that, nigel? i do _ tuesday. do you agree with that, nigel? i do indeed. _ tuesday. do you agree with that, nigel? i do indeed. i— tuesday. do you agree with that, nigel? i do indeed. ithink- tuesday. do you agree with that, nigel? i do indeed. i think this i
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nigel? i do indeed. ithink this completely _ nigel? i do indeed. i think this completely ops _ nigel? i do indeed. ithink this completely ups the _ nigel? i do indeed. ithink this completely ups the ante. - nigel? i do indeed. i think thisl completely ups the ante. we've nigel? i do indeed. i think this - completely ups the ante. we've had one fine _ completely ups the ante. we've had one fine last tuesday, and i was 'ust one fine last tuesday, and i was just for— one fine last tuesday, and i was just for £50. this one, if it turns out he _ just for £50. this one, if it turns out he was — just for £50. this one, if it turns out he was actually behind the party in the _ out he was actually behind the party in the sense of being the organiser, of course _ in the sense of being the organiser, of course that being said, it could be £10,000 fine. obviously we don't know until_ be £10,000 fine. obviously we don't know until the met police actually make _ know until the met police actually make a _ know until the met police actually make a judgment on this. i think that over— make a judgment on this. i think that over the last week things have actually— that over the last week things have actually changed a fair bit amongst tory mps — actually changed a fair bit amongst tory mps. last week it was kind of feeling _ tory mps. last week it was kind of feeling that look, we got the word ukraine _ feeling that look, we got the word ukraine going on, we shouldn't then change _ ukraine going on, we shouldn't then change a _ ukraine going on, we shouldn't then change a leader in midstream. coming around _ change a leader in midstream. coming around to— change a leader in midstream. coming around to the idea well, hang on, we are not— around to the idea well, hang on, we are not actually at war so therefore it is possible now to have a new prime _ it is possible now to have a new prime minister. it wouldn't change our support for ukraine. so if you end up— our support for ukraine. so if you end up with — our support for ukraine. so if you end up with more fines or more serious — end up with more fines or more serious because i think the boards johnson _ serious because i think the boards johnson could be in serious trouble. kate, _ johnson could be in serious trouble. kate, you _ johnson could be in serious trouble. kate, you are acknowledging along there. serious trouble said nigel.
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what could that actually mean, do you think? it’s what could that actually mean, do outhink? �*, , what could that actually mean, do outhink? �*, you think? it's possible he could face a charge — you think? it's possible he could face a charge of— you think? it's possible he could face a charge of having - you think? it's possible he could face a charge of having misled i face a charge of having misled parliament which should be a resigning matter. there's also local elections coming out. as i understand it the corey's tories are quite keen he hangs on until then and see what happens after that. even though torres had been that it started to come up on the doorstep i'm pretty sure it is on the doorstep. it could be a torrid few weeks for the prime minister and the tory party. ibig weeks for the prime minister and the to -a . �* ~ tory party. big week next week shortl . tory party. big week next week shortly. front _ tory party. big week next week shortly. front page _ tory party. big week next week shortly. front page of - tory party. big week next week shortly. front page of the - tory party. big week next week shortly. front page of the daily| shortly. front page of the daily mail now. this is the outcry of justin wally�*s attack. headline is outcry while bees attack on ungodly asylum plan. this is the reaction to the reaction to this policy.— the reaction to this policy. that's riuht. i'm the reaction to this policy. that's right. i'm sure _ the reaction to this policy. that's right. i'm sure justin _ the reaction to this policy. that's right. i'm sure justin welby - the reaction to this policy. that's right. i'm sure justin welby was l right. i'm sure justin welby was expecting — right. i'm sure justin welby was expecting it. i'm sure he didn't think— expecting it. i'm sure he didn't think he — expecting it. i'm sure he didn't think he was going to get away with it without _ think he was going to get away with it without being criticised by
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politicians. the main criticism is the archbishop of canterbury, the church— the archbishop of canterbury, the church not— the archbishop of canterbury, the church not get involved in politics. i church not get involved in politics. i wish _ church not get involved in politics. i wish they'd get involved more. i iwish they'd get involved more. i think— i wish they'd get involved more. i think the — i wish they'd get involved more. i think the problem with the church of england _ think the problem with the church of england is— think the problem with the church of england is that it often seems irrelevant. and it should be speaking about the issues of the day. especially something like sending — day. especially something like sending asylum—seekers to rwanda which _ sending asylum—seekers to rwanda which is _ sending asylum—seekers to rwanda which is a _ sending asylum—seekers to rwanda which is a trade in human cargo. bearing — which is a trade in human cargo. bearing in— which is a trade in human cargo. bearing in mind that in fact the archbishop hadn't two and 25 of the bishops— archbishop hadn't two and 25 of the bishops are legislators themselves was a _ bishops are legislators themselves was a place in the house of lords. they— was a place in the house of lords. they have — was a place in the house of lords. they have a — was a place in the house of lords. they have a vote on the policies that actually govern this country. it is that actually govern this country. it is quite — that actually govern this country. it is quite right that they should intervene — it is quite right that they should intervene when something comes up like this, _ intervene when something comes up like this, and they disagree was vehemently. we like this, and they disagree was vehemently-— like this, and they disagree was vehementl . ~ ., vehemently. we will debate about whether they _ vehemently. we will debate about whether they should _ vehemently. we will debate about whether they should have - vehemently. we will debate about whether they should have lot - vehemently. we will debate about i whether they should have lot making powers or not. we will probably leave that for a wider discussion
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then they newspaper review. we believe that when they newspaper review. we believe that when there. is that right? you would be expecting some pushback. the specific criticism seems to be that he hasn't understood the policy clearly enough. kate, what do you make of that?— clearly enough. kate, what do you make of that? --. trying to defend in his column _ make of that? --. trying to defend in his column --. _ make of that? --. trying to defend in his column --. ok, _ make of that? --. trying to defend in his column --. ok, i'm - make of that? --. trying to defend in his column --. ok, i'm get a - make of that? --. trying to defend i in his column --. ok, i'm get ajump in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in because — in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in because we — in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in because we can't i in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in because we can't hear�* in his column --. ok, i'm get a “ump in because we can't hear you. h in his column --. ok, i'm get ajump in because we can't hear you. we - in because we can't hear you. we will try to work on that in a second. don't know what's happening there. nigel, this is... politicians seem to be saying he just doesn't understand the policy properly. is that a line that you go along with? not really. i think he understands it totally — not really. i think he understands it totally. it may be that one would expect _ it totally. it may be that one would expect him to actually also add some kind of— expect him to actually also add some kind of solution to it rather than just criticise it. this was an easter sermon, it wasn't the kind of thing that— easter sermon, it wasn't the kind of thing that you're going to go into a lot of— thing that you're going to go into a lot of detail about how things could
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be improved. the kind of way that we can look— be improved. the kind of way that we can look at— be improved. the kind of way that we can look at this is, if the government is saying that the principal— government is saying that the principal aim of the policy is to stop— principal aim of the policy is to stop people dying when they are crossing — stop people dying when they are crossing the english channel at there _ crossing the english channel at there are — crossing the english channel at there are more ways of doing this without— there are more ways of doing this without sending them 6000 miles away to rwanda _ without sending them 6000 miles away to rwanda. we could have in asylum system _ to rwanda. we could have in asylum system where people don't have to actually _ system where people don't have to actually be in this country before they can — actually be in this country before they can claim asylum. the kind of safe routes — they can claim asylum. the kind of safe routes that exist for refugees. i safe routes that exist for refugees. iwouldn't — safe routes that exist for refugees. i wouldn't have expected the archbishop to go into all of that in detail— archbishop to go into all of that in detail from the pulpit. but it something that maybe he would expand on in the _ something that maybe he would expand on in the next few days. let�*s something that maybe he would expand on in the next few days.— on in the next few days. let's move onto the financial— on in the next few days. let's move onto the financial times _ on in the next few days. let's move onto the financial times was - on in the next few days. let's move onto the financial times was a - onto the financial times was a different story. the headline is ukraine war and stag for asian pose threat to world economic reflation. stagflation is a pretty ugly word and a pretty ugly concept as well. nigel, talk us through it. basically
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it means _ nigel, talk us through it. basically it means low growth and high inflation _ it means low growth and high inflation. that leads to stagflation. and what the fda is saying _ stagflation. and what the fda is saying is— stagflation. and what the fda is saying is that the war in ukraine will exacerbate theirs. i don't will exacerbate theirs. idon't think— will exacerbate theirs. idon't think any— will exacerbate theirs. i don't think any of this comes as a major surprise — think any of this comes as a major surprise the _ think any of this comes as a major surprise. the entire world is actually— surprise. the entire world is actually facing a cost—of—living crisis — actually facing a cost—of—living crisis coming up. and world economies are trying to actually bounce — economies are trying to actually bounce back from covid. obviously a major _ bounce back from covid. obviously a major war— bounce back from covid. obviously a major war like this one is not going to help _ major war like this one is not going to help i_ major war like this one is not going to help. i think we all have to appreciate that every one of us if were going to stand up to our principles— were going to stand up to our principles have to bear some caught doing _ principles have to bear some caught doing a _ principles have to bear some caught doing a cost for that. us as individuals, ministers and government, it also applies to employers. they must consider giving pay rises _ employers. they must consider giving pay rises perhaps slightly greater than they actually intended. we are all actually backing up the principle of backing ukraine. it is
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this conflict _ principle of backing ukraine. it is this conflict that _ principle of backing ukraine. it 3 this conflict that is exacerbating the post covid recovery, it's slowing back down. we are releasing a knock on effect here. actually, we are still in the early stage of this, our wheat nigel because the knock on effect economically agree to be seen months down the line as well. �* ., ., to be seen months down the line as well. �* . ., ., �* , to be seen months down the line as well. �* . . ., �* , ., well. i'm afraid that's true. in a sense that _ well. i'm afraid that's true. in a sense that the _ well. i'm afraid that's true. in a sense that the whole _ well. i'm afraid that's true. in a sense that the whole thing - well. i'm afraid that's true. in a sense that the whole thing is i well. i'm afraid that's true. in a - sense that the whole thing is become a perfect _ sense that the whole thing is become a perfect storm. thatjust as sense that the whole thing is become a perfect storm. that just as we were _ a perfect storm. that just as we were actually moving out of covid and things— were actually moving out of covid and things looked as if they might improve _ and things looked as if they might improve slightly because of that, suddenly— improve slightly because of that, suddenly we get hit by a major conflict — suddenly we get hit by a major conflict which throws us completely off course — conflict which throws us completely off course. i don't think there's an awful— off course. i don't think there's an awful lot — off course. i don't think there's an awful lot that politicians can actually _ awful lot that politicians can actually do about that. they can do something — actually do about that. they can do something about some of the effects. hence _ something about some of the effects. hence why— something about some of the effects. hence why rishi sunak was ruled not to scrap— hence why rishi sunak was ruled not to scrap the — hence why rishi sunak was ruled not to scrap the national insurance increase — to scrap the national insurance increase that is going ahead despite tory mp_ increase that is going ahead despite tory mp said he should of done. that would've _ tory mp said he should of done. that would've helped hugely with the kind
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of bills people are now facing. but those of bills people are now facing. those kind of bills people are now facing. elf those kind of policies of course, they would say in response do you need to be paid for and the cost of social care is an issue that constant government... well as long as i can remember they said yes it's as i can remember they said yes it's a problem, yes we need to deal with it and this government has crossed this one saying they are dealing with it. of course the timing is never ideal. we believe economic matters for the moment. front page of the guardian now. they are badging and exclusive they say revealed, shocking rate of female deaths in england's poorest areas. kate, i think we've got the line back to you now reestablish. could you talk us through this front page on the guardian? this you talk us through this front page on the guardian?— on the guardian? this is an exclusive — on the guardian? this is an exclusive from _ on the guardian? this is an exclusive from the - on the guardian? this is an exclusive from the health l on the guardian? this is an - exclusive from the health editor who has found that apparently women in the poorest areas in england are dying earlier than an average woman
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on almost every comparable country in the world. that is quite an extraordinary finding. it will certainly add pressure on the government when it comes to the cost crisis which impacts well—being and threw into life expectancy as we go into the winter with a high price rises, high fuel prices and high cost of living. i think this is something the government is going to pay a lot of attention to.— pay a lot of attention to. nigel, it is a uuite pay a lot of attention to. nigel, it is a quite shocking _ pay a lot of attention to. nigel, it is a quite shocking thing - pay a lot of attention to. nigel, it is a quite shocking thing to - pay a lot of attention to. nigel, it is a quite shocking thing to read i is a quite shocking thing to read given all the circumstances, and economic problems we are talking about, it's a reflection as well... we should point out this is england only. in some parts of west wales sadly where i am from come out as the poorest in europe. we don't have the figures for their but we can imagine a much better there. ft is imagine a much better there. it is uuite imagine a much better there. it is quite shocking — imagine a much better there. it is quite shocking to read. yes, it is. what _ quite shocking to read. yes, it is. what we — quite shocking to read. yes, it is. what we are _ quite shocking to read. yes, it is. what we are talking about is kind of a life expectancy in the poorest areas — a life expectancy in the poorest areas for— a life expectancy in the poorest areas. forwomen a life expectancy in the poorest areas. for women at 78.7 years according — areas. for women at 78.7 years according to — areas. for women at 78.7 years
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according to there is a health foundation report. the most disturbing part about it is that in the wealthier part of england you're talking _ the wealthier part of england you're talking about people, women living ei-ht talking about people, women living eight years longer which is an awful lot more _ eight years longer which is an awful lot more life expectancy. i think what _ lot more life expectancy. i think what this— lot more life expectancy. i think what this does is actually present eight _ what this does is actually present eight major challenge to michael .oes eight major challenge to michael goes leveling up agenda. because of leveling _ goes leveling up agenda. because of leveling up is going to work it means— leveling up is going to work it means getting some kind of equality in all sorts— means getting some kind of equality in all sorts of fields right across the country. but especially when it comes— the country. but especially when it comes to _ the country. but especially when it comes to life expectancy. gk, the country. but especially when it comes to life expectancy. ok, let's romise comes to life expectancy. ok, let's promise out _ comes to life expectancy. ok, let's promise out more _ comes to life expectancy. ok, let's promise out more widely. - comes to life expectancy. ok, let's promise out more widely. this - comes to life expectancy. ok, let's promise out more widely. this is i promise out more widely. this is particularly on the death rates for women. let's touch on that leveling up women. let's touch on that leveling up idea because you were nodding along there. the challenges faced for that agenda notjust how economic but actually how they spread and i actually cover the same kind of problems.— kind of problems. yes, they do. levelin: kind of problems. yes, they do. leveling op _ kind of problems. yes, they do. leveling up is — kind of problems. yes, they do. leveling up isjust _ kind of problems. yes, they do. leveling up isjust bringing - kind of problems. yes, they do. leveling up isjust bringing nhs| kind of problems. yes, they do. i leveling up isjust bringing nhs to it isn'tjust necessarily adding a bit of extra rail capacity and not
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speak in favour of somebody was in favour of a chest tube. it's about bringing prosperity to the whole country. at that moment that's clearly failing. this is a big challenge for michael gove and the government. challenge for michael gove and the government-— challenge for michael gove and the government. let's look at the front .a . e government. let's look at the front -a~e of government. let's look at the front page of the — government. let's look at the front page of the daily — government. let's look at the front page of the daily telegraph - government. let's look at the front page of the daily telegraph now. i government. let's look at the front i page of the daily telegraph now. not their main story but a story on the right—hand side of their front page. volunteers on call for 999. which might raise a few eyebrows. nigel, what is this — might raise a few eyebrows. nigel, what is this about? _ might raise a few eyebrows. nigel, what is this about? this _ might raise a few eyebrows. nigel, what is this about? this is - might raise a few eyebrows. nigel, what is this about? this is the - what is this about? this is the london — what is this about? this is the london ambulance service. at the moment— london ambulance service. at the moment they are suffering huge delays _ moment they are suffering huge delays in — moment they are suffering huge delays in trying to get ambulances to people — delays in trying to get ambulances to people who are seriously ill. so you are _ to people who are seriously ill. so you are talking about weights of more _ you are talking about weights of more than an hour or so when it was had a _ more than an hour or so when it was had a heart — more than an hour or so when it was had a heart attack or a stroke. the idea here — had a heart attack or a stroke. the idea here is — had a heart attack or a stroke. the idea here is that you've got volunteers who are prepared to come forward _ volunteers who are prepared to come forward and _ volunteers who are prepared to come forward and drive these people to hospitals — forward and drive these people to hospitals so they can get there guicker~ — hospitals so they can get there quicker. and especially with a heart attack— quicker. and especially with a heart attack it— quicker. and especially with a heart attack it is— quicker. and especially with a heart attack it is essential you get everything sorted it out within the
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first hour~ — everything sorted it out within the first hour. volunteers are being used _ first hour. volunteers are being used for— first hour. volunteers are being used for quite some time in the nhs and they— used for quite some time in the nhs and they drive people to hospital. this is— and they drive people to hospital. this is the — and they drive people to hospital. this is the first time we've been talking — this is the first time we've been talking about emergencies. i find this a _ talking about emergencies. i find this a hit— talking about emergencies. i find this a bit disturbing. what you really— this a bit disturbing. what you really need in an emergency is a medical— really need in an emergency is a medical professional on the scene. at the _ medical professional on the scene. at the idea — medical professional on the scene. at the idea of some of these being hungled _ at the idea of some of these being hungled in — at the idea of some of these being bungled in a back of a car to be taken— bungled in a back of a car to be takento— bungled in a back of a car to be taken to hospital, better than waiting — taken to hospital, better than waiting an hour or so for an ambiance— waiting an hour or so for an ambience perhaps but still far from perfect _ ambience perhaps but still far from perfect. far ambience perhaps but still far from erfect. ., ., , . �* ambience perhaps but still far from erfect. ., ., , .�* , perfect. far from perfect i'm sure it was ok, _ perfect. far from perfect i'm sure it was ok, this — perfect. far from perfect i'm sure it was ok, this comes _ perfect. far from perfect i'm sure it was ok, this comes off- perfect. far from perfect i'm sure it was ok, this comes off the - perfect. far from perfect i'm sure| it was ok, this comes off the back covid with the whole infrastructure, staff under extreme pressure throughout all areas of the nhs. yes. the nhs is still playing catch up yes. the nhs is still playing catch up with a lot of things that were put off during covid with the nhs was coping with the worst of covid. we still have staff shortages for the people are still off with covid, let's not forget that. the nhs is
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enormously pressured. i saw friend of mine on twitter last night with a friend and amd and they were working 12 hours or more with just seems unsupportable. one of the other portable drive people to hospital quite often certain modern emergency practice is not to scoop and run off to hospital it's to hospital it's tuesday and give them treatment where they are and stabilise them before they get to hospital. if this is the only to get to hospital that's a bit scary, that's the best we can get somebody who is extremely ill. taste we can get somebody who is extremely ill. ~ ., we can get somebody who is extremely ill. ~ . ., , ill. we will leave it there for this addition. kate, _ ill. we will leave it there for this addition. kate, nigel, _ ill. we will leave it there for this addition. kate, nigel, thank- ill. we will leave it there for this addition. kate, nigel, thank youj ill. we will leave it there for this i addition. kate, nigel, thank you so much for expertly guiding us through the front pages of the newspapers. a nice mix of different stories in issues covered there. that's it for the papers this hour. kate and nigel will be back again at 11:30 goodbye for now.

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