tv Outside Source BBC News April 26, 2022 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins. welcome to outside source. the un secretary—general has travelled to moscow in search of a breakthrough in the war in ukraine. we need corridors that are truly safe and effective, and that are respected by all. antonio guterres said there were fruitful conversations but no breakthrough. us police released footage of alec baldwin practising drawing his gun on the set where a crude member was shot last year. the eu has reminded elon musk it will still need to abide by eu rules. we'll explain what that
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means. un secretary general antonio guterres is in moscow, calling for an end of the war in ukraine. here he is meeting the russian president vladimir putin, across a long white table in the kremlin. as is often the case. earlier, he met the russian foreign minister, sergei lavrov. here's what mr guterres said after that meeting. there are two different positions on what is happening in ukraine. according to the russian federation, what is taking place is a special military operation with the objectives that were announced. according to the un in line with resolutions passed by the general assembly, russia's invasion of ukraine is a violation of its territorial integrity and against the charter of the united nations.
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but it is my deep conviction that the sooner we end this war, the better. sergei lavrov responded by saying russia favoured a diplomatic solution, but it was too early to talk about mediation. and ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, who's due to meet mr guterres on thursday, is angry that the mr guterres visited moscow first, which brings us to the question of the un's role in this war. the un is supposed to resolve conflicts and punish aggressors. not this time. our geneva correspondent, imogen foulkes, explains. so, the un is focusing on the humanitarian side. let's hearfrom antonio guterres again. urgently needs humanitarian corridors that are truly safe and effective and that are respected
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by all to evacuate civilians and deliver much—needed assistance. as we know, humanitarian corridors haven't been working. that's been devastating for people living in places like mariupol, in the south. officials say 20,000 civilians there have been killed from russia's attacks, and people are still stuck. we hear several hundred are hiding in underground tunnels below this — the avostal steel plant. it's one of the last parts of the city still held by ukrainian forces. this was earlier. you can see that it's been under attack, surrounded by russian troops. let's hear more on this from jenny hill, in moscow.— let's hear more on this from jenny hill, in moscow. he's made a couple ro osals hill, in moscow. he's made a couple preposals about _ hill, in moscow. he's made a couple proposals about trying _ hill, in moscow. he's made a couple proposals about trying to _ hill, in moscow. he's made a couple proposals about trying to set - hill, in moscow. he's made a couple proposals about trying to set up - proposals about trying to set up joint _ proposals about trying to set up joint groups to facilitate humanitarian corridors, the delivery of aid, _ humanitarian corridors, the delivery of aid, and — humanitarian corridors, the delivery of aid, and that was really it. so, asjenny says, all that's been agreed to is a draft plan to implement humanitarian corridors, and that's it.
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and all this has happened less than 2a hours after sergei lavrov was asked if there is a risk of nuclear war with the west, and he had this reply. translation: the risks are really considerable, and i_ the risks are really considerable, and i would — the risks are really considerable, and i would not _ the risks are really considerable, and i would not want _ the risks are really considerable, and i would not want to - the risks are really considerable, and i would not want to elevate l and i would not want to elevate those _ and i would not want to elevate those risks _ and i would not want to elevate those risks artificially. - and i would not want to elevate those risks artificially. many . and i would not want to elevate i those risks artificially. many would like that, _ those risks artificially. many would like that, but— those risks artificially. many would like that, but the _ those risks artificially. many would like that, but the danger— those risks artificially. many would like that, but the danger is- those risks artificially. many would like that, but the danger is a - like that, but the danger is a serious, _ like that, but the danger is a serious, it's— like that, but the danger is a serious, it's real, _ like that, but the danger is a serious, it's real, and - like that, but the danger is a serious, it's real, and we - like that, but the danger is a - serious, it's real, and we must not underestimate _ serious, it's real, and we must not underestimate it. _ ukraine responded to that. its foreign minister tweeted. .. and as those warnings come from moscow, in germany, ministers from a0 countries allied to nato met at an american base military to discuss supplying military aid to ukraine. the ministers have now agreed to meet every month going forward. and there's been another major policy shift from germany on that, too.
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remember, germany has long had a policy of not supplying heavy weapons to war zones. now, it's sending about 50 anti—aircraft tanks to ukraine. let's look at some of what else nato allies have supplied. those anti—aircraft tanks are the latest announcement. there's also anti—tank weapons — like american howitzers — anti—ship missiles from britain, drones from turkey, the us — stinger missiles — to shoot down attacking missiles, and armoured vehicles and rounds of artillery. america's defence secretary responded to germany's move. i think it's significant that germany announced it was going to provide 50 cheetah systems. i think they will provide real capability for ukraine. so, more powerful weapons for ukraine. and in his interview last night, sergei lavrov also commented on nato's military aid.
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let's listen to what he said. translation: nato in essence is already engaged in a war_ nato in essence is already engaged in a war with — nato in essence is already engaged in a war with russia _ nato in essence is already engaged in a war with russia through - nato in essence is already engaged in a war with russia through a - nato in essence is already engagedl in a war with russia through a proxy and is _ in a war with russia through a proxy and is arming— in a war with russia through a proxy and is arming that _ in a war with russia through a proxy and is arming that proxy. _ in a war with russia through a proxy and is arming that proxy. war- and is arming that proxy. war means war. so, mr lavrov calls ukraine a �*proxy war�*, and the weapons being supplied by the west are getting bigger and more powerful. our diplomatic correspondent, james landale, says... here's the uk defence minister's response. i don't think that right now, there is an_ i don't think that right now, there is an imminent threat of escalation. ithink— is an imminent threat of escalation. ilhink whal— is an imminent threat of escalation. i think what the west is doing to support— i think what the west is doing to support its allies in ukraine is a
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very— support its allies in ukraine is a very well— support its allies in ukraine is a very well calibrated. meanwhile, on the ground in ukraine, russia continues its attacks. ukraine says the town of zaporizhzhia — you can see it there in the south east — has been attacked for the first time since the russian invasion. one person died. and there's been heavy shelling in the donbas, in the donetsk and luhansk regions. as we know, it's focusing its offensive there now. it reportedly seized a city there today. this is donetsk, in donbas. it's the aftermath of russian shelling of a hospital. and this is luhansk. ukraine's army is firing rockets at russian targets. the bbc spoke to the governor of the luhansk region. the situation is critical in terms of electricity and food and water supply because everything has been destroyed over the last two months. the whole infrastructure, the supply of electricity, water, everything
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has been destroyed completely. i was talking about that steel plant. apparently, vladimir putin has agreed in principle to icrc being involved in evacuating people from that plant, but we should emphasise what russia says it is a plan doesn't necessarily translate into reality, so we'll keep an eye on what actually happens. our next report is from the village of senkivka, north of here, near ukraine's border with russia and belarus. it's now a frontline in this war. russian troops occupied it at the start of the invasion. they've now pulled back as their troops focus on the east. our correspondent yogita limaye went to meet people living there to ask about the impact of this war. for lydia, who is 91, it was the second time in her life seeing tanks at her doorstep.
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translation: back in the day, i could run away, nowl can't. i there is nothing good about war. we have been friends with russia and belarus for years. people from other countries visited each other, married each other. from almost everyone we spoke to, we heard about friendships and families spread across borders that have now been broken. this man's brothers and a sister live in russia. translation: my sister told me it was us who started the war. i i want my family to use their heads, to look at the situation independently. nina told us she's cut her brother, who lives in belarus, out of her life because he doesn't believe what she's told him, what's really happening. let's look further at this call for a cease—fire and why it doesn't look likely. sergei live rod said... —— a
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here is more on that from jenny hill. ~ , ., , ., hill. when you listen to the kremlin and all of its officials, _ hill. when you listen to the kremlin and all of its officials, you _ hill. when you listen to the kremlin and all of its officials, you do - hill. when you listen to the kremlin and all of its officials, you do not i and all of its officials, you do not -et and all of its officials, you do not get the _ and all of its officials, you do not get the sense that moscow seriously wants _ get the sense that moscow seriously wants peace. the tone here is aggressive and belligerent and acute as the west of suriplying _ belligerent and acute as the west of supplying weapons to ukraine. in seeking _ supplying weapons to ukraine. in seeking to prolong it for as long as possible _ seeking to prolong it for as long as possible. for seeking to prolong it for as long as ossible. ., ~' . seeking to prolong it for as long as ossible. ., ~ ., , , , possible. for ukraine because my perspective. _ possible. for ukraine because my perspective, president _ possible. for ukraine because my perspective, president zelensky l possible. for ukraine because my i perspective, president zelensky said he will continue to defend his country and... this is what he said on monday night. translation: for russia to seek peace, every ukrainian — for russia to seek peace, every ukrainian must _ for russia to seek peace, every ukrainian must still— for russia to seek peace, every ukrainian must still fight. - for russia to seek peace, every ukrainian must still fight. theyl ukrainian must still fight. they must _ ukrainian must still fight. they must defend _ ukrainian must still fight. they must defend freedom - ukrainian must still fight. they must defend freedom because | ukrainian must still fight. they- must defend freedom because every day a _ must defend freedom because every day a struggle — must defend freedom because every day a struggle now— must defend freedom because every day a struggle now as _ must defend freedom because every day a struggle now as i— must defend freedom because every day a struggle now as i years - must defend freedom because every day a struggle now as i years —— - day a struggle now as i years —— years— day a struggle now as i years —— years to — day a struggle now as i years —— years to peaceful— day a struggle now as i years —— years to peaceful life _ day a struggle now as i years —— years to peaceful life after - day a struggle now as i years —— years to peaceful life after this i years to peaceful life after this war, _ years to peaceful life after this war. after— years to peaceful life after this war, after our— years to peaceful life after this war, after our victory. - years to peaceful life after this war, after our victory.- years to peaceful life after this war, after our victory. russia and ukraine are _ war, after our victory. russia and ukraine are both _ war, after our victory. russia and ukraine are both saying - war, after our victory. russia and ukraine are both saying very - ukraine are both saying very different ways that the fighting will continue. look through the
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analysis of one former british ambassador to ukraine. it analysis of one former british ambassador to ukraine. it remains difficult to see _ ambassador to ukraine. it remains difficult to see how _ ambassador to ukraine. it remains difficult to see how putin - ambassador to ukraine. it remains difficult to see how putin can - ambassador to ukraine. it remains| difficult to see how putin can agree to any outcome of this war which doesn't end up with russia with more thanit doesn't end up with russia with more than it had. it's difficult to see how ukraine can accept the aggressor getting more land asa as a result. let's bring in the bbc's as a result. let's bring in the 3505 ben — as a result. let's bring in the bbc's ben brown. _ they are angry and president zelensky is angry that antonio guterres has gone to moscow first before coming here to kyiv. they say he should have come to ukraine first, and they're also worried that the un secretary—general is being played by
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president putin and by the russians and sergei live her off in others in the kremlin. played in the sense in other leaders like president macron have been played throughout this war, and in the weeks before because mr putin talks to them and says one thing and then does something different. they believe there won't be any wish by the russians for a peace treaty until russia has seized a big enough chunk of this country. at the moment, they're nowhere near that. �* . . at the moment, they're nowhere near that. �* ., ., ., that. bearing all that in mind, what's on _ that. bearing all that in mind, what's on the _ that. bearing all that in mind, what's on the ukrainians' - that. bearing all that in mind, j what's on the ukrainians' wish that. bearing all that in mind, - what's on the ukrainians' wish list for when antonio guterres comes to town? i for when antonio guterres comes to town? ~' , ., town? i think in the short term, the immediate priority _ town? i think in the short term, the immediate priority is _ town? i think in the short term, the immediate priority is getting - immediate priority is getting civilians out of places like mariupol. there was a bit of movement from president putin. he
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was talking about allowing the un and the red cross to be involved in the evacuation of those desperate civilians who have been trapped there. including the ones who are in there. including the ones who are in the steel plant, and president putin says they are being used as human shields by the ukrainian fighters there. again, what the ukrainians will point out is that mr putin might say one thing about allowing an evacuation through humanitarian corridors out of places like mariupol, but it never really happens. we've seen time and time again the idea of humanitarian corridors for one reason or another completely collapsing. more broadly, at the beginning _ completely collapsing. more broadly, at the beginning of— completely collapsing. more broadly, at the beginning of this _ completely collapsing. more broadly, at the beginning of this conflict, - at the beginning of this conflict, we talked about how many people were displaced either within ukraine or having to leave ukraine completely. has the pace of that displacement
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slowed, given the russians are focusing on the ease? in slowed, given the russians are focusing on the ease?- slowed, given the russians are focusing on the ease? in fact, some --eole focusing on the ease? in fact, some peeple have — focusing on the ease? in fact, some people have been _ focusing on the ease? in fact, some people have been coming _ focusing on the ease? in fact, some people have been coming back- focusing on the ease? in fact, some people have been coming back to i focusing on the ease? in fact, some. people have been coming back to the west in particular. seeing that the fighting is not hugely affecting western areas of this country. i think there was a new estimate of how many people might be forced out of this country ultimately, and it was something like 8 million, around 5 million at the moment forced out and about double that displaced from their homes. a huge number of people have already had to leave their homes or had to lead their country —— leave. it's a desperate situation for those who have had to leave. thank you very much indeed. the conflict appears to be inflaming the situation in moldova.
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within it, there's a breakaway. tensions are often high, but in the past few days, there have been a series of blasts, two of which claim destroyed... the bbc cannot verify that claim. you have the of muddled and authorities were associate —— suggesting that attacks may have been staged. irate we are vigilant and will take all the necessary measures to strengthen the necessary measures to strengthen the security— the necessary measures to strengthen the security of our state. we must remain— the security of our state. we must remain calm. i'm joined now by president of the chicago council and former us ambassador to nato, ivo daalder. thank you very much for your time.
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let me first of all get your reaction to the un's decision to send its secretary—general to moscow first stop though i think that was a mistake. clearly, the conflict rare mistake. clearly, the conflict we are mistake. clearly, the conflict we: are witnessing is the result of russian aggression and violation of the commitment as a member of the united nations not to use armed force and not to use armed force across borders. it is unfortunate that the un secretary—general decided to go to moscow first without having listened to or talking to the victims of this aggression. i understand why president zelensky is upset. i would be equally upset, and of course, as we would expect, he went there and came back empty—handed. you we would expect, he went there and came back empty-handed.— came back empty-handed. you say that, and at — came back empty-handed. you say that, and at the _ came back empty-handed. you say that, and at the moment, - came back empty-handed. you say that, and at the moment, there - came back empty-handed. you say l that, and at the moment, there isn't much to show for the visit, but isn't that inevitable to some degree because of russia's place on the security council?—
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because of russia's place on the security council? yeah, and that raises real— security council? yeah, and that raises real questions. _ security council? yeah, and that raises real questions. i - security council? yeah, and that raises real questions. i think- security council? yeah, and that. raises real questions. i think what he should really concentrate on, one of the issues he talked to, the humanitarian situation caused by the russians. he should have gone there and pressed them to stop the bombing of civilians, to finally opening up civilian corridors and allow international agencies to come in and help these people who have, in the case of mariupol, been in this steel factory underground mall for well over a month, victims of the indiscriminate bombing that is going on. that should really be the focus of the un now because, as you rightly say, the nature of the un
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means that russia has the ability to stop any action to deal with peace and security. on the humanitarian front is where you want to concentrate.— front is where you want to concentrate. . �* , �* , concentrate. that's the un, let's talk about _ concentrate. that's the un, let's talk about nato, _ concentrate. that's the un, let's talk about nato, where - concentrate. that's the un, let's talk about nato, where you - talk about nato, where you represented america. it's enough very critical few weeks because finland and sweden mayjoin. it very critical few weeks because finland and sweden may join. finland and sweden may “oin. it does look like finland h finland and sweden may “oin. it does look like finland and _ finland and sweden may join. it does look like finland and sweden - finland and sweden may join. it does look like finland and sweden will - finland and sweden may join. it does look like finland and sweden will be l look like finland and sweden will be asked tojoin and an issue is prepared in latejune in madrid, and itjust goes to show how much vladimir putin has miscalculated. remember that well back before the war, he blamed nato for coming too close to his border as the reason for russian unhappiness and that led to this war. what has happened instead is that nato has come even
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closer to russia's border than before. nato has already significantly increased military capabilities in eastern europe, deployed four more multinational battalions into eastern europe and is considering other ways in which to increase its military presence. two countries that have long been neutral and independent in the case of sweden for over 200 years, are now the deciding to join nato, of sweden for over 200 years, are now the deciding tojoin nato, one of those countries finland, sharing 1400 km of those countries finland, sharing 1&00 km border with russia. {sheen 1400 km border with russia. given that that border _ 1400 km border with russia. given that that border is _ 1400 km border with russia. given that that border is there, - 1400 km border with russia. given that that border is there, do - 1400 km border with russia. given that that border is there, do you think it's potentially too risky for nato to quickly go into accepting two members, one of whom shares this quarter with russia, as being provocative?— quarter with russia, as being rovocative? ~ �* , ., , provocative? well, it's not being provocative. _ provocative? well, it's not being provocative, it's _ provocative? well, it's not being provocative, it's providing - provocative? well, it's not being i provocative, it's providing security for a country that now feels exposed. finland knows there is on history that it has to deal very
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carefully with russia, it was invaded twice during world war ii, once during the soviet union... it has lived with russia as its neighbour. it now feels insecure and it wants to secure nato. there's one thing that is very clear — vladimir putin respects nato. it did not intervene in the baltic states, it did not intervene against any nato country, it intervene against country, it intervene against country that was explicitly not covered by nato and before the war started. nato said it would not come to the defence of ukraine. it would help with the armour and equipment, but would not directly defendant. now, the sentiments it's clear in finland, they want to be defendant to prevent russia from invading their country. that would risk a war
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with nato. , ., , ~ with nato. three things i was keen to ask ou with nato. three things i was keen to ask you about, _ with nato. three things i was keen to ask you about, i've _ with nato. three things i was keen to ask you about, i've asked - with nato. three things i was keen to ask you about, i've asked you i to ask you about, i've asked you about finland and the un, what about germany and its decision to send much more heavyweight weaponry into ukraine? did you expect germany to make that shift?— make that shift? well, it has announced — make that shift? well, it has announced it _ make that shift? well, it has announced it was _ make that shift? well, it has announced it was going - make that shift? well, it has announced it was going to i make that shift? well, it has| announced it was going to do make that shift? well, it has - announced it was going to do this. i think it is a very important shift and just one more of the sacred... of german policy following away, clear indication to reduce and eliminate dependence on russian energy in massive spending that was announced immediately after the war. now the direct assistance, not just of the kind of defensive weapons that many people have been sending, but of heavy equipment to help the ukrainians not only defend themselves, but to win this war. it's a remarkable shift in german policy over the past ten weeks or
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so, welcome shift, i think germany has understood now that a ten hour drive away from its border is a country that was invaded, and germany has to be part of the solution by helping ukraine defend itself. we solution by helping ukraine defend itself. ~ . ,, . ., itself. we appreciate your time, ambassador. _ itself. we appreciate your time, ambassador. my _ itself. we appreciate your time, ambassador. my pleasure. - there's a new report into spiking, finding that bars and nightclubs are too quick to blame victims. 90% of respondents of this survey said they received no support when they asked staff to help after a suspected spiking with some people being thrown out of their dues for being too drunk. sharon is a victim and
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had her drink spiked in 2020. she's been speaking to my colleagues. timer;r been speaking to my colleagues. they said i had been speaking to my colleagues. they said i had too — been speaking to my colleagues. they said i had too much _ been speaking to my colleagues. tie: said i had too much to drink, been speaking to my colleagues. tiez1: said i had too much to drink, my best friend was with me and a doctor, has known me for many years and knows what i'm like with or without alcohol, told him this was not normal. i was completely unconscious. they took me to the hospital. it was like waking up, i couldn't remember who i was. a doctor kept telling me, i couldn't remember it.— doctor kept telling me, i couldn't remember it. , .., , remember it. this report recommends a government — remember it. this report recommends a government and _ remember it. this report recommends a government and police _ remember it. this report recommends a government and police and - remember it. this report recommends a government and police and take - remember it. this report recommends a government and police and take the | a government and police and take the following steps.
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here is the chairwoman of the committee dianejohnson on why the last point matters so much. it’s a last point matters so much. it's a really nasty _ last point matters so much. it's a really nasty thing _ last point matters so much. it's a really nasty thing to _ last point matters so much. it's a really nasty thing to go _ last point matters so much. it's a really nasty thing to go through and there _ really nasty thing to go through and there can be lasting side effects, so it's— there can be lasting side effects, so it's important that people speak out and _ so it's important that people speak out and report to the police. that's why at _ out and report to the police. that's why at the — out and report to the police. that's why at the moment, we say there isn't _ why at the moment, we say there isn't the _ why at the moment, we say there isn't the hard to actually know how widespread the problem is. we know anecdotally, you think about 11% of women _ anecdotally, you think about 11% of women have been subject to spiking, and we _ women have been subject to spiking, and we had _ women have been subject to spiking, and we had her own survey and we had thousands, _ and we had her own survey and we had thousands, nearly 2000 people who contacted us and said they had been spiked _ contacted us and said they had been spiked either their drinks or by injection, _ spiked either their drinks or by injection, so real problem is the lack of— injection, so real problem is the lack of actual hard data. just behind me — lack of actual hard data. just behind me here _ lack of actual hard data. just behind me here are - lack of actual hard data. just behind me here are colleagues working around the clock on the bbc news website, you can find further information on that story and all the major stories on outside source.
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we can talk about that possibility of finland joining nato in more detail in the second half of outside source. good evening. it's felt pleasantly warm today with light winds and some strong sunshine. but in parts, we had a few drizzly showers, nothing significant rain—wise, so the dry theme has continued. in fact, still, parts of england and wales have had less than 50% of their average rainfall — only scotland having seen average this april. it follows on a dry march for the whole of the uk. and with high pressure with us for what remains of april, for most, it stays dry. it's just the far northwest of scotland, northern ireland where we may see some appreciable rain before the end of april. but some sunshine today we had across northern ireland, more than yesterday, and under the clear skies overnight, it's going to be chilly here as well. a touch of grass frost around, certainly, because any
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remaining showers will fizzle out, the cloud will melt away. the breeze keeps bringing some cloud on shore to eastern coasts and we could have a bit more cloud in the north and west, but for most, it will be another chilly night with a touch of grass frost around just about anywhere and, in the glens of scotland, more likely a touch of frost by morning and some mistiness, too, to clear first thing. otherwise, i think quite bright again, plenty of dry weather, plenty of sunshine around, perhaps more in the northeast of scotland compared with today and the northeast of england, but onshore, still some of that cloud coming on. there could be a few showers for northern ireland in the northwest of scotland — a bit cooler here. temperatures generally held down anyway because it's chilly air coming in. we could have a bit more breeze on the south coast as well, but that might alleviate the high pollen levels. they're looking more moderate for the day tomorrow, but for tree pollen sufferers, still significant, i expect. strong sunshine coming out, and that breeze continuing not just for the south of england, but
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for the channel islands into thursday. underthat for the channel islands into thursday. under that area of high pressure, the weather's quite static. there's very little wind to move the cloud around, so it will tend to be trapped. we'll have some rain potentially in the north with a weak weather front on thursday, but again, it's the detail that will be difficult to pin down. feeling warm when you get the sunshine out, very similar story into friday. we're starting to see the rain approaching towards the west, a little bit of the change. there's more on the website.
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hello, i'm ros atkins. this is outside source. oui’ our lead story is that the un secretary general has been in moscow attempting to find an agreement to end the war in ukraine. brute attempting to find an agreement to end the war in ukraine.— end the war in ukraine. we need humanitarian _ end the war in ukraine. we need humanitarian corridors _ end the war in ukraine. we need humanitarian corridors that - end the war in ukraine. we need humanitarian corridors that are l humanitarian corridors that are truly safe and effective, and that are respected by all. the un says russia had agreed in principle to lie an evacuation of civilians, but those agreements have been made before and they haven't happened. we will look at fenland. it is preparing tojoin finland, or at
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least ask the question. we will look at rostov —— russian justifications for the war. the us police have released footage of the actor alec baldwin practising drawing his gun on the separate crew member was shot dead last year. and we will look at elon musk and his purchase of twitter. the european union has been issuing gentle reminders that whoever owns the platform, it still has to stick to european laws. police in the us have released footage showing alec baldwin practising drawing his gun before a fatal shooting on a film set last year. it's part of several hours worth of video showing events before and after the shooting of the cinematographer halyna hutchins. this is alec baldwin practising drawing his weapon in rehearsal. he was playing a character in a low—budget western movie called rust, which he
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was also a producer on. and this is bodycam footage from the first police to arrive at the scene in new mexico. one female shot in the chest. a mailshot the stomach. request an air flight. how many people were in here when it happened?— flight. how many people were in here when it happened? three, maybe four. russell was here, _ when it happened? three, maybe four. russell was here, alec _ when it happened? three, maybe four. russell was here, alec baldwin - when it happened? three, maybe four. russell was here, alec baldwin was - russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor— russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor on— russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor on set _ russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor on set that _ russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor on set that pulled - russell was here, alec baldwin was the actor on set that pulled the - the actor on set that pulled the trigger~ — the actor on set that pulled the trir rer. �* . the actor on set that pulled the triner. �* . the actor on set that pulled the triner. . . , , you heard a member of the crew there saying alec baldwin "pulled the trigger", but the actor went on to tell police he didn't do that. he said the gun went off in his hands. the bodycam footage shows the actor speaking to police. how is it going, sir? from my understanding humour in the room when the lady was shot? i was when the lady was shot? i was holdin: when the lady was shot? i was holding the — when the lady was shot? i was holding the gun, _ when the lady was shot? i was holding the gun, yes. - when the lady was shot? i was holding the gun, yes. i- when the lady was shot? i was holding the gun, yes. i know l when the lady was shot? i was i holding the gun, yes. i know your name _ holding the gun, yes. i know your name let— holding the gun, yes. i know your name. let me deal with miley
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tenants — name. let me deal with miley tenants. ~ . , ., ., name. let me deal with miley tenants. ~ . ., ., ., tenants. whatever you want to do. just rive tenants. whatever you want to do. just give me _ tenants. whatever you want to do. just give me a _ tenants. whatever you want to do. just give me a second. _ the family of heleena hutchins say they are "suprised" police have chosen to release the footage. she was 42—years—old, and regarded as a rising star in the film industry. the bullet that killed her also hit the film's director, joel souza, who was standing behind the camera. he survived. the police video also showed them speaking to an armorer, hannah gutteirez, who was in charge of the prop guns on set. it showed alec baldwin's being interviewed at the sheriff's office. she hands me the gun i assume she has done at the right way, she did it for the last two weeks. i put it in the holster, pulled it out slow. i turn, caught the pistol, cop the pistol and bang, it hits and she hits the ground. the production was using flash rounds, which make a noise. live rounds, containing bullets, are never supposed to be on set. in his police interview, alec baldwin speculated whether another kind of object had somehow got stuck in the barrel.
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the thing that could answer all your questions, is what is injoe potter is much shorter, is it a rock or a bullet. i can show that to you. that's a bullet. as i expected, somebody put a live round in the gun. sophie long is in los angeles. we have this new video to look at. has it in any way change your entourage —— our understanding of what happened? entourage -- our understanding of what happened?— entourage -- our understanding of what happened? there are hours and hours of footage _ what happened? there are hours and hours of footage that _ what happened? there are hours and hours of footage that we _ what happened? there are hours and hours of footage that we have - what happened? there are hours and hours of footage that we have been l hours of footage that we have been sifting through. some of it is very harrowing and you see the frantic attempts are people trying to save helene a hutchence life. they were unable to do so. it is notjust footage from body cams and dashboards, but also test messages sent between key witnesses and private investigators over the months of the investigation that has taken place,, six months has now passed and she tragically lost her life. what we have learned from this new evidence so far is there are
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still crucial parts of information that the santa fe sheriff's office is still waiting to receive from the fbi, regarding ballistics and forensics, and they say until they have those only then will they be able to pass this case in full to the district attorney, and only then will be no if criminal charges will be brought. at this stage they have not been ruled out. i think that is the main takeaway from the information received so far. all of it is very interesting but it hasn't fundamentally changed the investigation. a lot of questions are being asked why they have released this detailed information while the criminal case is still ongoing. the lawyerfor while the criminal case is still ongoing. the lawyer for matthew hutchins has said there are very surprised that they decide to do this, and i have asked the media here to be discerning and exercise discretion in how they use of this very graphic footage. the discretion in how they use of this very graphic footage.— discretion in how they use of this very graphic footage. the family is surrised very graphic footage. the family is surprised and _
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very graphic footage. the family is surprised and i _ very graphic footage. the family is surprised and i expect _ very graphic footage. the family is surprised and i expect there - very graphic footage. the family is surprised and i expect there are i surprised and i expect there are people watching around the world who are also surprised at the place is taken this decision. have they offered anyjustification as to why they have released this in the middle of an investigation? timer;r middle of an investigation? they have. the santa _ middle of an investigation? they have. the santa fe _ middle of an investigation? they have. the santa fe sheriff- middle of an investigation? tiez1: have. the santa fe sheriff has middle of an investigation? tiez1 have. the santa fe sheriff has been speaking to the media and he said this was a response to requests for information, so what we would call a freedom of information request. he said we are required to do that. they didn't need to do it at this time, but i think there is a sense they want to be transparent. this is an incident which has rocked hollywood and left many people wondering how on earth someone lost their life a movie set when there are industry safety protocols that should have been followed. a lot of information released over the last day has shown that those particles were not followed. we knew that already. there was a scathing report issued last week by santa fe health and safety officials which they talked about wilful safety failures.
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they said that to miss fires had taken place on the step prior to the fatal shooting, and the production company did little or nothing about it. much of the information, huge amounts of it released over the past day, very little of it changes the direction of this investigation. brute direction of this investigation. we heard alec baldwin saying in the immediate aftermath i did not pull the trigger, but another person saying he did. we heard alec baldwin saying he did. we heard alec baldwin saying may be something other than a bullet was in the gun. have those two points of difference been cleared up by the police? timer;r two points of difference been cleared up by the police? they have not been cleared _ cleared up by the police? they have not been cleared up. _ cleared up by the police? they have not been cleared up. there - cleared up by the police? they have not been cleared up. there is - cleared up by the police? they have not been cleared up. there is more| not been cleared up. there is more information about that. in one of the parts of the information released last night in the us they talk about how in his interview he talks about how he pulled the hammer back only three quarters of the way and that his finger was on the trigger but he didn't pollute. one
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of the investigators is putting to him that the pressure from his finger could have caused to come to discharge. the main piece of information they don't yet have is how live avenue mate —— ammunition found its way onto that set. we heard reports of crewmembers going out and doing target practice the night before. that comes out in the information we have received, but we don't yet know, and this is crucial to the investigation and to whether criminal charges will be brought, is how live ammunition was brought onto the set. the armourer said, welcome to the worst day of my life. they are asking her for details, to the worst day of my life. they are asking herfor details, and she says i was the armourer, or at least i was and how her career is over. a lot of this information is very interesting, harrowing to watch, but it doesn't change the course of this investigation. they are still waiting for those crucial pieces of
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evidence, and only then will be no if criminal charges will be brought, and that could be weeks or months away. the un secretary—general has been in moscow. he says he is a messenger of peace. here he is meeting vladimir putin. earlier he also met the russian defence foreign minister, sergei lavrov. stephen rosenberg has a report on that meeting from moscow. he was trying to show it was business as usual. vladimir putin began the day meeting russian olympic champions. like them, he hates losing. smiles here, but the hostilities in ukraine have turned russia into an international pariah. but could international diplomacy bring peace? in moscow, russia
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foreign minister met the un's secretary general. you can post my government is furious that antonio guterres came to moscow before visiting kyiv. it guterres came to moscow before visiting kyiv— visiting kyiv. it is my deep conviction _ visiting kyiv. it is my deep conviction that _ visiting kyiv. it is my deep conviction that the - visiting kyiv. it is my deep conviction that the sooner| visiting kyiv. it is my deep i conviction that the sooner we visiting kyiv. it is my deep - conviction that the sooner we end this war the better for the conviction that the sooner we end this war the betterfor the people of ukraine, for the people of the russian federation and goes far beyond. tkla russian federation and goes far be ond. ., , .,~ ., ., ,, ., beyond. no breakthrough, and russia blamed the west. _ beyond. no breakthrough, and russia blamed the west. this _ beyond. no breakthrough, and russia blamed the west. this situation - blamed the west. this situation ha en blamed the west. this situation happen mostly _ blamed the west. this situation happen mostly because - blamed the west. this situation happen mostly because our- blamed the west. this situation - happen mostly because our american partners _ happen mostly because our american partners and their allies over the years— partners and their allies over the years in— partners and their allies over the years in our— partners and their allies over the years in our geopolitical area used ukraine _ years in our geopolitical area used ukraine as — years in our geopolitical area used ukraine as a staging ground to provoke — ukraine as a staging ground to provoke and contain russia. the kremlin is _ provoke and contain russia. the kremlin is in _ provoke and contain russia. the kremlin is in no _ provoke and contain russia. tie: kremlin is in no rush to halt what it calls its special military operation. for diplomacy to succeed there needs to be the political will for peace, but right now there is little sign of that in the kremlin.
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vladimir putin seems determined to continue the offence if he launched in ukraine, at least until he can secure what he can present to the russian people as a victory. that means no ceasefire in ukraine. the russian military continues to attack and continues to deny russian troops have committed war crimes. kremlin critics argue that in the current situation international diplomacy isn't the answer. 1 situation international diplomacy isn't the answer.— isn't the answer. i don't believe that any leader _ isn't the answer. i don't believe that any leader of _ isn't the answer. i don't believe that any leader of any - isn't the answer. i don't believe that any leader of any civilised l that any leader of any civilised country should come and talk to vladimir putin because he is a war criminal. i don't believe that it is possible to come to terms with him on the war in ukraine.—
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on the war in ukraine. tonight, in the kremlin. _ on the war in ukraine. tonight, in the kremlin, the _ on the war in ukraine. tonight, in the kremlin, the un _ the kremlin, the un secretary—general met russia's presidents. the choice of table set it all about the gap between russia and the international community. in a few minutes we will look at another dimension of the story because it looks like finland and sweden are moving towards requesting joining nato. we will look at how the russian invasion of ukraine connects to that issue, and while vladimir putin is criticising nato, it may well expand. as libya struggles to rebuild after years of civil war, residents of one city are working to revive their tourism industry. beneath the mountains in north—west libya lies entire villages, carved into the mountainside centuries ago.
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at the onset of civilisation, many were abandoned, but not this one, built by this man's rates great grandfather. there were at least eight large families sheltering there. translation: ., , , , translation: there are three types of antic homes. _ translation: there are three types of antic homes. one _ translation: there are three types of antic homes. one is _ translation: there are three types of antic homes. one is built - translation: there are three types of antic homes. one is built on - translation: there are three types of antic homes. one is built on a - of antic homes. one is built on a slope in place in a semi circle shape, which has three orfour slope in place in a semi circle shape, which has three or four rooms and eight. the second semi circle is completed by being excavated underground.— underground. according to historians, _ underground. according to historians, these - underground. according to historians, these sites - underground. according to historians, these sites are | historians, these sites are carefully chosen and the rooms painstakingly excavated by hand to avoid them collapsing in the process. translation: , .., translation: it is cold in the summer and — translation: it is cold in the summer and warm _ translation: it is cold in the summer and warm in - translation: it is cold in the summer and warm in the - translation: it is cold in the l summer and warm in the winter, translation: it is cold in the - summer and warm in the winter, so throughout the year in any season you find yourself at ease and comfortable.
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translation: , ., ., comfortable. translation: ., ., translation: there is a lot of shared heritage _ translation: there is a lot of shared heritage in _ translation: there is a lot of shared heritage in this - translation: there is a lot of shared heritage in this culture. | shared heritage in this culture. they all have the same patterns and design. he they all have the same patterns and desian. . , ., , design. he wants to preferred -- reserve design. he wants to preferred -- preserve his _ design. he wants to preferred -- preserve his heritage _ design. he wants to preferred -- preserve his heritage and - design. he wants to preferred -- preserve his heritage and has - design. he wants to preferred --| preserve his heritage and has now renovated the house, well also retaining all of the fittings and crafts. before the civil war, the area used to receive plenty of tourists and senses renovation, they have received several domestic tourists and he has great hopes when the country's security stabilises, international tourist will also start visiting again. this is outside source. our lead story is that the un secretary general has left moscow after talks that failed to deliver a breakthrough to try to end the fighting in ukraine. breakthrough to try to end
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the fighting in ukraine. sweden and finland look increasingly likely to launch joint nato membership applications in the coming weeks. finland's foreign minister said earlier it would be "useful" for the two countries to make the decision together. finnish media is reporting that the leaders of the two countries could meet next month to announce the bid, which would have been very unlikely a few weeks ago. when vladimir putin ordered the invasion into ukraine aesthetic was invasion into ukraine aesthetic was in part due to the expansion of nato. there is every chance now that nato's land border with russia could not double in length. finland may soonjoin nato. i not double in length. finland may soonjoin nato._ soon 'oin nato. i won't give any kind soonjoin nato. i won't give any kind of timetable _ soonjoin nato. i won't give any kind of timetable when - soonjoin nato. i won't give any kind of timetable when we - soonjoin nato. i won't give any kind of timetable when we willl soon join nato. i won't give any - kind of timetable when we will make our decisions, but i think it will happen quite fast, within weeks, not within months. that is the current premise to
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offended. , that is the current premise to offended-— that is the current premise to offended. , ., ~ , offended. this former prime minister noes offended. this former prime minister goes further- — offended. this former prime minister goes further. finland _ offended. this former prime minister goes further. finland and _ offended. this former prime minister goes further. finland and was - goes further. finland and was possibly sweden as well will become members of nato by the end of this year. members of nato by the end of this ear. ., ., , members of nato by the end of this ear, ., ., , ., members of nato by the end of this ear. ., ., , ., ., ., year. that would be a moment of huge significance- — year. that would be a moment of huge significance. nato _ year. that would be a moment of huge significance. nato is _ year. that would be a moment of huge significance. nato is already _ year. that would be a moment of huge significance. nato is already the - significance. nato is already the biggest military alliance, its headquarter is in brussels and it includes the uk, the us, germany and france. members here are in purple. translation: idial’iiiii france. members here are in purple. translation:— france. members here are in purple. translation: will not move an inch towards the east, _ translation: will not move an inch towards the east, they _ translation: will not move an inch towards the east, they told _ translation: will not move an inch towards the east, they told us - translation: will not move an inch towards the east, they told us in - towards the east, they told us in the 1990s, and what happened? they deceived us. , the 1990s, and what happened? they deceived us-— deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. nato denies _ deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. nato denies its _ deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. nato denies its expansion - deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. nato denies its expansion is i deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. nato denies its expansion is a | us. nato denies its expansion is a threat, but that is how russia sees it and that expansion may be about to continue. then it is already a member of the eu and it cooperates with nato and while it is officially neutral, it is a military player. most men infinity military service. official statistics show a wartime
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strength of 280,000 soldiers and 900,000 reservists, and the finnish defence forces describe themselves as the backbone of our society. finland's military strategy had felt settled. ., ., , ., , settled. the ma'ority of finnish eo - le settled. the ma'ority of finnish people have — settled. the majority of finnish people have been _ settled. the majority of finnish people have been quite - settled. the majority of finnish | people have been quite satisfied with our security solutions, nothing bad has happened for decades. but now we have vladimir putin's intervention. in february russia show the world that would attack a neighbour, and that change the equation for finland. a recent poll found 62% of finnish people supported joining nato, found 62% of finnish people supportedjoining nato, in found 62% of finnish people supported joining nato, in 2017 it was 21%. article five state an attack against one or several of its members is considered as an attack against all. in other words, nato membership offers finland the security of collective defence, and justice for ukraine, the present and the past informs out and land use
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russia. ukraine declared independence from the soviet union independence from the soviet union in 1991, finland declared independence from russia in 1917, but in 1939 the soviet union invaded finland. it was met with fierce resistance and while it would retreat, kept nearly 10% of the territory. then, after the second world war, finland and the soviet union signed a friendship treaty and the neutrality that came with that has been the basis of in the's military strategy since. now, though, there is a reassessment. finland is not facing an immediate military threat, but we must look to the future as well. finland must be prepared for the use or the threat of use of military force against it, as well as for political pressure. being prepared may involve being in nato, but then that nose that brings risks. a recent report to the parliament shows this could lead to increased tensions on the border between finland and russia and would move the nato alliance closer to strategically important areas in
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russia, and that is an issue for the russian government. the kremlin spokesperson says it would have to rebalance the situation with its own measures if finland and swedenjoin. he also warned that further expansion will not bring additional security to the european continent, and that finland is listening to this. �* , ~ , this. here's the prime minister aaain. of this. here's the prime minister again. of course _ this. here's the prime minister again. of course there - this. here's the prime minister again. of course there are - this. here's the prime minister. again. of course there are many risks and we have to be prepared for all kinds of actions from russia, cyber attacks, different kinds of influencing from russia's site. finland and sweden also note that if they ask, if you expect nato to say no. , . they ask, if you expect nato to say no, , ., , , they ask, if you expect nato to say no. , . , , ., , they ask, if you expect nato to say no. , ., , , ., , ., no. there is a sense that why would ou want no. there is a sense that why would you want these _ no. there is a sense that why would you want these two _ no. there is a sense that why would you want these two pro-european l you want these two pro—european members of the eu flourishing democracies, strong arm and is outside of nato if you can have them in. , ., ., , , ., in. there is no real dispute. it all means there _ in. there is no real dispute. it all means there is _ in. there is no real dispute. it all means there is a _ in. there is no real dispute. it all means there is a renewed - in. there is no real dispute. it all means there is a renewed focus l in. there is no real dispute. it all. means there is a renewed focus on this part of europe, isjohn simpson described in march. this this part of europe, is john simpson described in march.— described in march. this could one da be
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described in march. this could one day be the — described in march. this could one day be the border _ described in march. this could one day be the border between - described in march. this could one day be the border between nato i described in march. this could one l day be the border between nato and russia. it is the precise opposite of what russia wanted. bud russia. it is the precise opposite of what russia wanted.— russia. it is the precise opposite of what russia wanted. and it is an outcome that _ of what russia wanted. and it is an outcome that could _ of what russia wanted. and it is an outcome that could happen - of what russia wanted. and it is an outcome that could happen within l outcome that could happen within months. the eu has warned twitter�*s new owner, elon musk, that he must comply with new digital rules or risk fines, or even a ban. in a tweet, an eu commissioner, thierry breton, said, "be it cars or social media, any company operating in europe needs to comply with our rules. mr musk knows this well. he is familiar with european rules on automotive, and will quickly adapt to the digital services act". and here's an eu spokesman on what the digital services act means. it applies to all major platforms to make sure their power over public debate is subject to a democratically validated rules, particularly on transparency and accountability. one of the core objectives is to better affect fundamental rights online. this warning from the eu comes after the board of twitter agreed
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on monday to a $44 billion takeover offerfrom the billionaire elon musk. he says his main aim is to reduce censorship on the platform. in his latest statement he said, "free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated". and here he is talking about it earlier this month. having a public platform that is maximum trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilisation. i don't care about the economics at all. i don't care about the economics at all. so elon musk doesn't care about the economics, he just wants to champion his ideals of free speech. but there are concerns this could lead to a rise in hate speech not just from the eu. the british government says "regardless of ownership, all social media platforms must be responsible". and elon musk�*s ideas on free speech also mean that controversial figures
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who've been banned from twitter could get reinstated. jessica gonzalez is from the media advocacy organisation free press. this isn't just about this isn'tjust about how elon musk�*s decision affects twitter users. of laws and laws and regulations and societal norms are being debated on twitter. there are white supremacist groups who are using twitter to organise, to countries and to plan violent events. this dialogue spills over into real life. we have seen it play out on january the 6th into real life. we have seen it play out onjanuary the 6th here in the united states, where a violent coup was organised online, and there are real life consequences as to what happens on twitter and other social media platforms. let's come back to the economics. elon musk is paying $44billion for the platform. twitter last year had revenues of around $5 billion, the vast majority of which is raised through advertising to its 217 million daily users.
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but both elon musk and twitter founderjack dorsey have said they believe that advertising on twitter is a mistake. here's our business correspondent michelle fleury on that. elon musk has been very clear what he would like to see twitter do in terms of return to this idea of a pure service, at town square he calls it, where free speech is allowed, but what is he going to do to improve the business? that is where many questions are left unanswered. currently, it makes all of its money through selling advertisement, but the question is how could you increase that. as a private company, you don't have to report as much detail as you do when you are a publicly listed company, but you do still have to pay off those loans you are taking to acquire the company, so he will have to generate more revenue. how can
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you do that? a subscription model is something it has dipped its toe injury, but that accounts for a tiny fraction, less than 5% of revenue, not even that. the idea that that will grow substantially to replace advertising seems unlikely at this point. you could reduce costs, does that mean he reduced headcount, which brings in the questions about what happens to twitter employees. many of them are concerned. if you work on the content moderation side of the business, is yourjob under threat, given his comments when it comes to increasing free speech and cutting back on content moderation? let's turn to south africa. floods there have now killed over 400 people and the premiere of the province of kwazulu—natal, which has been particularly affected, has been defending his handling of the crisis. our crisis. 0ur correspondence crisis. our correspondence has more. people are now starting to bury their loved
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ones. there are families across the province in the affected areas that are bearing multiple members of theirfamilies. there is a are bearing multiple members of their families. there is a funeral at the weekend for five members of the same family, including children. the grief that people are experiencing is compounded by the fact that many have lost their homes. they don't know quite what is going to happen next, and the cultural rights that will take place when people are buried are not able to take place. this is still very much a search and rescue operation, but the hopes of finding people alive are dwindling. there are still bodies being found. yesterday at least one body was pulled out of a river. the local authorities told me that they are reluctant to update the death toll, which is currently 435, until they have established for sure what the cause of death was. there are lots of concerns about things like water, clean water.
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that finishes this edition of outside source. thanks for watching, see you soon, goodbye. good evening. it's felt pleasantly warm today with light winds and some strong sunshine. but in parts, we had a few drizzly showers, nothing significant rain—wise, so the dry theme has continued. in fact, still, parts of england and wales have had less than 50% of their average rainfall — only scotland having seen average this april. it follows on a dry march for the whole of the uk. and with high pressure with us for what remains of april, for most, it stays dry. it's just the far northwest of scotland, northern ireland where we may see some appreciable rain before the end of april. but some sunshine today we had across northern ireland, more than yesterday, and under the clear skies overnight, it's going to be chilly here as well. a touch of grass frost around, certainly, because any
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remaining showers will fizzle out, the cloud will melt away. the breeze keeps bringing some cloud onshore to eastern coasts and we could have a bit more cloud in the north and west, but for most, it will be another chilly night with a touch of grass frost around just about anywhere and, in the glens of scotland, more likely a touch of frost by morning and some mistiness, too, to clear away first thing. otherwise, i think quite bright again, plenty of dry weather, plenty of sunshine around, perhaps more in the northeast of scotland compared with today and the northeast of england, but onshore, still some of that cloud coming on. there could be a few showers for northern ireland in the northwest of scotland — a bit cooler here. temperatures generally held down anyway because it's chilly air coming in. we could have a bit more breeze on the south coast as well, but that might alleviate the high pollen levels. they're looking more moderate for the day tomorrow, but for tree pollen sufferers, still significant, i expect. some strong sunshine around when it does come out in the south as well, and that breeze in the south continuing notjust for the south of england, but for the channel islands as well into thursday.
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for most of us, though, under that area of high pressure, the weather's quite static. there's very little wind to move the cloud around, so it will tend to get trapped. early morning mistiness taking a while to clear away and lift the cloud, and then we'll have some rain, potentially showery in the north with a weak weather front on thursday, but again, it's the detail that will be difficult to pin down. i think for most, it's still a dry and bright day and feeling warm when you get the sunshine out. very similar story as we head into friday. by that stage, we're starting to see the rain approaching towards the west, a little bit of a change as we go into saturday. as ever, there's more on the website.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. in ukraine fully contradicts the un charter but he does not seem to have made any breakthrough in moscow. russia's invasion of ukraine is a violation of territorial integrity and against the charter of the united nations but it is my deep conviction that the sooner we end this war, the better.— conviction that the sooner we end this war, the better. germany sends 50 anti-aircraft _ this war, the better. germany sends 50 anti-aircraft tanks _ this war, the better. germany sends 50 anti-aircraft tanks to _ this war, the better. germany sends 50 anti-aircraft tanks to ukraine - this war, the better. germany sends 50 anti-aircraft tanks to ukraine asl 50 anti—aircraft tanks to ukraine as more weapons are pledged to support the war against russia. seven women
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