although an welcome to dateline london o—matic. i am martine croxall. this time we discussed whether there are any peace talks in ukraine, we look at the aftermath of the fridge election and asked where europe goes now and we look ahead to the uk local elections and ask, "could the outcome sink boris johnson?"joining us here in the studio — at long last!

the editor in chief of the gulf—based daily the national, mina al oraibi. it feels good, doesn't it? and you get your makeup done as well! the bbc�*s business editor simonjack, and dateline�*s long—serving expert on all things french, marc roche, formerly london correspondent of le monde and now le point. welcome to everybody. united nations boss has had talks this week with presidents putin and zelensky. the us secretary of state and defence minister have been in kyiv. but what have these diplomatic shuffles actually achieved? mina, you watch all of this closely for your readers, interpret it, contextualize it. what have you been telling them? the contextualize it. what have you been telling them?— telling them? the last few days have been important _ telling them? the last few days have been important to _ telling them? the last few days have been important to at _ telling them? the last few days have been important to at least _ telling them? the last few days have been important to at least maintain i been important to at least maintain the momentum of trying to get a solution, but we have not seen and intangible that brings this war to an end. for our readers, there is the primary development, the military develop its on the ground,

and ukrainian people, what they are suffering, the fact that there was attack on kyiv as the un secretary—general was there was an indication of how serious this is not only for the poor ukrainian people who are suffering but also wider ramifications. so there is that immediate element. then there's the cost of oil going up, the fact that we worry wheat imports in the middle east, in egypt, 80% of wheat imports come from russia. here in the uk, we are talking about cooking oil being the problem because so much of the world's cooking oil and wheat is impacted by that, and then there is the bigger picture, which is that if we don't get peace in the next few weeks, what does this mean for the global world? and there's talks now that president putin and zelensky will be at the 620 summit. hopefully the work does not drag on

that long, but it could drag on that long, so will diplomacy there make a difference? this year, indonesia is the president, trying to keep eight somewhat neutral position, to push both the russians but also the americans to try to find a solution. the americans this week, marc, president biden has committed $33 billion for military, economic and humanitarian aid, but at the meantime, countries are buying russian oil and gas. how do leaders score that circle? it is cancelling each other out, the aide and the fuel cost. , , ., ., fuel cost. first, things are going badl for fuel cost. first, things are going badly for putin _ fuel cost. first, things are going badly for putin because - fuel cost. first, things are going badly for putin because the - fuel cost. first, things are going i badly for putin because the west, the americans are giving masses of heavy armaments and aid and economic aid. heavy armaments and aid and economic aid~ also, _ heavy armaments and aid and economic aid~ also, the _ heavy armaments and aid and economic

aid. also, the europeans are now much _ aid. also, the europeans are now much more united because the blackmail— much more united because the blackmail on gas, onto poland and bulgaria, — blackmail on gas, onto poland and bulgaria, misfired, and the european commission— bulgaria, misfired, and the european commission has decided to buy gas to the us, _ commission has decided to buy gas to the us, to _ commission has decided to buy gas to the us, to qatar, even to israel. and thirdly, _ the us, to qatar, even to israel. and thirdly, things are quite bad for russia — and thirdly, things are quite bad for russia on the insurance market because _ for russia on the insurance market because the russian crude cannot get interest— because the russian crude cannot get interest from london. that is a decision— interest from london. that is a decision the british government might— decision the british government might take. all this is very negative, but at the same time, russia _ negative, but at the same time, russia has— negative, but at the same time, russia has the upper hand because europe _ russia has the upper hand because europe are — russia has the upper hand because europe are very divided between the hardiihe _ europe are very divided between the hardline eastern europe and other europe, _

hardline eastern europe and other europe, and much more thought is on a softer— europe, and much more thought is on a softer approach, like the german, and any— —— and the progression, which we forget, _ —— and the progression, which we forget, which is greece, so that is an advantage for putin —— pro—russian. and there's a big question— pro—russian. and there's a big question about the effect of inflation and cost of living. exactly _ inflation and cost of living. exactly. that brings me onto what i was going to talk to you about, simon, in terms of sanctions for how effective have they been? but down the track, they are ramifications notjust the track, they are ramifications not just for the track, they are ramifications notjust for president putin and his economy but the rest of us.- economy but the rest of us. true. one thing — economy but the rest of us. true. one thing russia _ economy but the rest of us. true. one thing russia would _ economy but the rest of us. true. one thing russia would consider. economy but the rest of us. true. | one thing russia would consider a 0ne thing russia would consider a victory— 0ne thing russia would consider a victory as— one thing russia would consider a victory as they _ one thing russia would consider a victory as they have _ one thing russia would consider a victory as they have managed - one thing russia would consider a victory as they have managed to l victory as they have managed to split the — victory as they have managed to split the european _ victory as they have managed to split the european union on- victory as they have managed toi split the european union on their approach — split the european union on their approach on _ split the european union on their approach on how— split the european union on their approach on how they _ split the european union on their approach on how they are - split the european union on their approach on how they are going i split the european union on their. approach on how they are going to approach — approach on how they are going to approach this _ approach on how they are going to approach this gas problem - approach on how they are going to approach this gas problem for- approach on how they are going to i approach this gas problem for some some _ approach this gas problem for some some have — approach this gas problem for some some have said _ approach this gas problem for some some have said they— approach this gas problem for some some have said they will— approach this gas problem for some some have said they will pay - approach this gas problem for some some have said they will pay in - some have said they will pay in roubles. — some have said they will pay in roubles, some _ some have said they will pay in roubles, some have _ some have said they will pay in roubles, some have said - some have said they will pay in roubles, some have said they. roubles, some have said they would not, roubles, some have said they would not. so they— roubles, some have said they would not, so they have managed - roubles, some have said they would not, so they have managed to - roubles, some have said they would not, so they have managed to put . roubles, some have said they would not, so they have managed to put a| not, so they have managed to put a crack _ not, so they have managed to put a crack in _ not, so they have managed to put a crack in that — not, so they have managed to put a crack in that. the _ not, so they have managed to put a crack in that. the sanctions - not, so they have managed to put a crack in that. the sanctions are - crack in that. the sanctions are very damaging _ crack in that. the sanctions are very damaging to— crack in that. the sanctions are very damaging to the russian i very damaging to the russian economy _ very damaging to the russian economy. but _ very damaging to the russian economy. but i _ very damaging to the russian economy. but i don't - very damaging to the russian economy. but i don't think. very damaging to the russian - economy. but i don't think enough in the short— economy. but i don't think enough in the short term — economy. but i don't think enough in

the short term to _ economy. but i don't think enough in the short term to deter _ economy. but i don't think enough in the short term to deter vladimir- the short term to deter vladimir putin— the short term to deter vladimir putin in— the short term to deter vladimir putin in his endeavours. - the short term to deter vladimir putin in his endeavours. but- the short term to deter vladimir putin in his endeavours. but i. the short term to deter vladimir| putin in his endeavours. but i do think— putin in his endeavours. but i do think one — putin in his endeavours. but i do think one of— putin in his endeavours. but i do think one of the _ putin in his endeavours. but i do think one of the other— putin in his endeavours. but i do think one of the other things, i putin in his endeavours. but i do. think one of the other things, and you talk— think one of the other things, and you talk about _ think one of the other things, and you talk about inflation, - think one of the other things, and you talk about inflation, i- think one of the other things, and you talk about inflation, i think. you talk about inflation, i think that is— you talk about inflation, i think that is the _ you talk about inflation, i think that is the really— you talk about inflation, i think that is the really big _ you talk about inflation, i think that is the really big thing. - that is the really big thing. everyone in— that is the really big thing. everyone in the _ that is the really big thing. everyone in the west - that is the really big thing. l everyone in the west hopes that is the really big thing. _ everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to— everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to nine— everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to nine months, _ everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to nine months, maybe - everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to nine months, maybe a - everyone in the west hopes hopefully in six to nine months, maybe a year, | in six to nine months, maybe a year, we will— in six to nine months, maybe a year, we will get _ in six to nine months, maybe a year, we will get some _ in six to nine months, maybe a year, we will get some resolution - in six to nine months, maybe a year, we will get some resolution and - we will get some resolution and everything — we will get some resolution and everything goes _ we will get some resolution and everything goes back— we will get some resolution and everything goes back to - we will get some resolution and | everything goes back to normal, we will get some resolution and - everything goes back to normal, but i everything goes back to normal, but i think the _ everything goes back to normal, but i think the reality is _ everything goes back to normal, but i think the reality is it— everything goes back to normal, but i think the reality is it will— everything goes back to normal, but i think the reality is it will never- i think the reality is it will never again in— i think the reality is it will never again in our lifetime _ i think the reality is it will never again in our lifetime be - i think the reality is it will never. again in our lifetime be considered to he _ again in our lifetime be considered to be acceptable _ again in our lifetime be considered to be acceptable strategically - again in our lifetime be considered to be acceptable strategically or. to be acceptable strategically or politically— to be acceptable strategically or politically to _ to be acceptable strategically or politically to be _ to be acceptable strategically or politically to be that _ to be acceptable strategically or politically to be that reliance - to be acceptable strategically or politically to be that reliance on| politically to be that reliance on russian — politically to be that reliance on russian fuel— politically to be that reliance on russian fuel sources, _ politically to be that reliance on russian fuel sources, and - politically to be that reliance on russian fuel sources, and that. russian fuel sources, and that means hu-e russian fuel sources, and that means huge investment— russian fuel sources, and that means huge investment in— russian fuel sources, and that means huge investment in renewables, - huge investment in renewables, finding _ huge investment in renewables, finding other— huge investment in renewables, finding other sources. _ huge investment in renewables, finding other sources. that- huge investment in renewables, l finding other sources. that means these _ finding other sources. that means these energy— finding other sources. that means these energy prices _ finding other sources. that means these energy prices we _ finding other sources. that means these energy prices we see - finding other sources. that means these energy prices we see are . finding other sources. that meansl these energy prices we see are not 'ust these energy prices we see are not just a _ these energy prices we see are not just a ltlip — these energy prices we see are not just a ltlip or— these energy prices we see are not just a ltlip ora— these energy prices we see are not just a blip or a spike, _ these energy prices we see are not just a blip or a spike, this - these energy prices we see are not just a blip or a spike, this is - these energy prices we see are not just a blip or a spike, this is a - just a blip or a spike, this is a step— just a blip or a spike, this is a step change _ just a blip or a spike, this is a step change in— just a blip or a spike, this is a step change in energy- just a blip or a spike, this is a step change in energy costs l just a blip or a spike, this is a. step change in energy costs for western — step change in energy costs for western economies _ step change in energy costs for western economies which - step change in energy costs for- western economies which will take years— western economies which will take years and — western economies which will take years and will— western economies which will take years and will take _ western economies which will take years and will take huge _ western economies which will take years and will take huge amounts. western economies which will take. years and will take huge amounts of money— years and will take huge amounts of money out of— years and will take huge amounts of money out of the _ years and will take huge amounts of money out of the economy, - years and will take huge amounts of money out of the economy, so - years and will take huge amounts of. money out of the economy, so i think the economic— money out of the economy, so i think the economic revocations _ money out of the economy, so i think the economic revocations are - the economic revocations are long-term _ the economic revocations are long-term— the economic revocations are long-term. the economic revocations are [on-term_ . ., ., , , ., ., long-term. want to pick up on that. there was a — long-term. want to pick up on that. there was a lot _ long-term. want to pick up on that. there was a lot of _ long-term. want to pick up on that. there was a lot of pressure - there was a lot of pressure particular from the united states to stop investing in hydrocarbon, stop

investing intuitive element and so forth, we'll development, and so you had everybody on the back foot and this crisis happened. american policy of almost saying, we need to wipe our hands of this, we can just transition easily, is not actually accurate, and so it is very harsh lesson to learn.— accurate, and so it is very harsh lesson to learn. cop26, climate summit, lesson to learn. cop26, climate summit. it _ lesson to learn. cop26, climate summit, it seems _ lesson to learn. cop26, climate summit, it seems quite - lesson to learn. cop26, climate summit, it seems quite a - lesson to learn. cop26, climate - summit, it seems quite a long time a-o summit, it seems quite a long time ago right— summit, it seems quite a long time ago right now it— summit, it seems quite a long time ago right now— ago right now. it does. marc, we have heard _ ago right now. it does. marc, we have heard that _ ago right now. it does. marc, we have heard that wall _ ago right now. it does. marc, we have heard that wall leaders - ago right now. it does. marc, we i have heard that wall leaders around the world are keen to present their pro zelensky credentials, we have had president putin intervening —— saying, if anybody interviews, you will fear our force. -- saying, if anybody interviews, you will fear our force. ...- you will fear our force. there is only one _ you will fear our force. there is only one leg _ you will fear our force. there is only one leg which _ is only one leg which putin understands. it is strength. if you

.ive understands. it is strength. if you give away— understands. it is strength. if you give away anything to putin that he will take _ give away anything to putin that he will take advantage. i think the west— will take advantage. i think the west should resist, like they do at the moment, by giving money and giving _ the moment, by giving money and giving armaments to ukraine. and we should _ giving armaments to ukraine. and we should not care about it. the only thing _ should not care about it. the only thing that— should not care about it. the only thing that worries me is a certain ukraine _ thing that worries me is a certain ukraine fatigue. public opinion in the west public has open arms welcomed refugees, they start to be problem _ welcomed refugees, they start to be problem in _ welcomed refugees, they start to be problem in belgium, in france, with people _ problem in belgium, in france, with people finding the cost of any difficulties, and they could be —— there _ difficulties, and they could be —— there could — difficulties, and they could be —— there could be fatigue on compassion and that— there could be fatigue on compassion and that would be terrible. canl and that would be terrible. can i ick and that would be terrible. can i pick up on _ and that would be terrible. can i pick up on that? _ and that would be terrible. can i pick up on that? they _ and that would be terrible. can i pick up on that? they have - and that would be terrible. can i pick up on that? they have propelled them from _ pick up on that? they have propelled them from the — pick up on that? they have propelled them from the west. _ pick up on that? they have propelled them from the west. everybody - pick up on that? they have propelled them from the west. everybody has. them from the west. everybody has said, _ them from the west. everybody has said. let's _ them from the west. everybody has said. let's give _ them from the west. everybody has said, let's give the _ them from the west. everybody has said, let's give the ukrainian - them from the west. everybody has said, let's give the ukrainian some. said, let's give the ukrainian some arms _ said, let's give the ukrainian some arms 0ur— said, let's give the ukrainian some arms. 0ur correspondent- said, let's give the ukrainian some - arms. 0ur correspondent jeremy bowen saying, _ arms. 0ur correspondent jeremy bowen saying, what— arms. 0ur correspondent jeremy bowen saying. what happens— arms. 0ur correspondent jeremy bowen saying, what happens if— arms. 0ur correspondent jeremy bowen saying, what happens if russia - saying, what happens if russia starts — saying, what happens if russia

starts winning _ saying, what happens if russia starts winning in _ saying, what happens if russia starts winning in the _ saying, what happens if russia starts winning in the east? - saying, what happens if russia starts winning in the east? are saying, what happens if russia - starts winning in the east? are you going _ starts winning in the east? are you going to _ starts winning in the east? are you going to keep— starts winning in the east? are you going to keep pushing _ starts winning in the east? are you going to keep pushing armaments. starts winning in the east? are you - going to keep pushing armaments into that? that _ going to keep pushing armaments into that? that is _ going to keep pushing armaments into that? that is a — going to keep pushing armaments into that? that is a very— going to keep pushing armaments into that? that is a very different _ that? that is a very different proposition, _ that? that is a very different proposition, politically, - proposition, politically, domestically, - proposition, politically, domestically, to- proposition, politically, domestically, to sell. proposition, politically, - domestically, to sell at home. at domestically, to sell at home. western flank is a different prospect, isn't it? i suppose what this has done is bring nato together in a way, emmanuel macron not disposed to nato until this crisis. exactly, and during the campaign, against _ exactly, and during the campaign, against marine le pen, who wanted to get out _ against marine le pen, who wanted to get out of— against marine le pen, who wanted to get out of the military command, he said. _ get out of the military command, he said. we _ get out of the military command, he said, we have to reinforce nato, which _ said, we have to reinforce nato, which for— said, we have to reinforce nato, which for french people is surprising because macron has been a defender— surprising because macron has been a defender of— surprising because macron has been a defender of european defence. we can see nato— defender of european defence. we can see nato killing this idea of european defence. find see nato killing this idea of european defence.- see nato killing this idea of european defence. see nato killing this idea of euroean defence. . ., european defence. and at the same time, it european defence. and at the same time. it came _ european defence. and at the same time. it came a _ european defence. and at the same time, it came a few— european defence. and at the same time, it came a few months - european defence. and at the same time, it came a few months after. time, it came a few months after the afghanistan withdrawal and no real stock—taking of what happened in

afghanistan, and the fact that nato is almost swept under the carpet, but we will see what happens with the nato summit, where there was supposed to be this global view for nato, now they're back to the traditional view stop going ——. . nato, now they're back to the traditionalview stop going ——. . i have been speaking to nikita| khrushchev's granddaughter, which you can hear— khrushchev's granddaughter, which you can hear tomorrow. _ khrushchev's granddaughter, which you can hear tomorrow. she - khrushchev's granddaughter, which you can hear tomorrow. she felt. khrushchev's granddaughter, whichl you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world _ you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was— you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was closer _ you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was closer to _ you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was closer to nuclear - you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was closer to nuclear war- you can hear tomorrow. she felt the world was closer to nuclear war nowj world was closer to nuclear war now than 1962. gives— world was closer to nuclear war now than 1962. gives me no _ world was closer to nuclear war now than 1962. gives me no pleasure - world was closer to nuclear war now than 1962. gives me no pleasure to| than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report— than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that — than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that and _ than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that and she _ than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that and she may _ than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that and she may be - than 1962. gives me no pleasure to report that and she may be wrong, | report that and she may be wrong, but that _ report that and she may be wrong, but that you — report that and she may be wrong, but that you have _ report that and she may be wrong, but that you have it! _ report that and she may be wrong, but that you have it! iarili�*hait- report that and she may be wrong, but that you have it!— but that you have it! what a name dro -l france has re—elected macron as president, but not with great enthusiasm, it has to be said. his far—right opponent marine le pen says her vote share at 42% was unprecedented and still a victory for her party. marc, france is clearly divided. what does emmanuel macron do about that? i what does emmanuel macron do about that? “

what does emmanuel macron do about that? ~ ., . ., , , that? i think france has never been so divided- — that? i think france has never been so divided- lt _ that? i think france has never been so divided. it is _ that? i think france has never been so divided. it is generational, - that? i think france has never been so divided. it is generational, the i so divided. it is generational, the young _ so divided. it is generational, the young voting for the pen, the middle a-e young voting for the pen, the middle age and _ young voting for the pen, the middle age and the old voting for macron. it is regional, the north and east, or you _ it is regional, the north and east, or you have all the industry... voting — or you have all the industry... voting for le pen, all the south and the west. _ voting for le pen, all the south and the west, for you have high—tech and services. _ the west, for you have high—tech and services, for macron. it is social. you _ services, for macron. it is social. you have — services, for macron. it is social. you have the _ services, for macron. it is social. you have the pro—lgbt and pro—me too, you have the pro—lgbt and pro—me too. pro— you have the pro—lgbt and pro—me too, pro black lives matter voting for macron, and the traditional catholics — for macron, and the traditional catholics voting for bob —— voting for le pen. it is divided on the _ —— voting for le pen. it is divided on the line — —— voting for le pen. it is divided on the line. more importantly, it is pushing _ on the line. more importantly, it is pushing macron, because of the first round _ pushing macron, because of the first round the _ pushing macron, because of the first round the left doing so well, to aid terrain— round the left doing so well, to aid terrain which is not favourable to him. which — terrain which is not favourable to him, which is the centreleft. he

believes— him, which is the centreleft. he believes in— him, which is the centreleft. he believes in the regulation, in increasing retirement, etc, and suddenly— increasing retirement, etc, and suddenly he is there, and mean he will have _ suddenly he is there, and mean he will have to — suddenly he is there, and mean he will have to focus much more on internal— will have to focus much more on internal affairs and on the question of immigration and all that then on his favourites patch, which is foreign affairs. we his favourites patch, which is foreign affairs.— his favourites patch, which is foreign affairs. we have also got the legislative _ foreign affairs. we have also got the legislative elections - foreign affairs. we have also got the legislative elections coming | foreign affairs. we have also got. the legislative elections coming in france very soon, mina. 577 numbers of the national assembly to be voted for. if you don't hold the majority, as the president, that makes things, whether you are the french president, the american president, lots of leaders are the refining this, it is hard to get your policies through.- this, it is hard to get your policies through. this, it is hard to get your olicies throu:h. . , �* ., policies through. able... both the incomin: policies through. able... both the incoming president _ policies through. able... both the incoming president or _ policies through. able... both the incoming president or do - policies through. able... both the incoming president or do they - incoming president or do they actually, seeing the split that there is in the country, not deliver

that for macron, at which point he will be suffering throughout two to limit any of his policies? 0ne will be suffering throughout two to limit any of his policies? one of the issues, as an outsider and people looking towards france, is this idea that marine le pen was able to get the percentage of votes above a0%, was shocking. answer the question is, what is the long—term ramifications for france but also the fact that the traditional parties as we know them have now gone, and so i think in countries like, for example, the uk, it is conservatives or labour predominantly, look at this. you have new parties shaping and dominating france.— have new parties shaping and dominating france. whether it is france or any — dominating france. whether it is france or any other _ dominating france. whether it is france or any other european - dominating france. whether it is - france or any other european economy at the moment, simon, though, the problems are the same, aren't they? and a lot of leaders are grappling with those issues of cost—of—living crisis, fuel security, which we have already touched on. it is

crisis, fuel security, which we have already touched on.— already touched on. it is a nightmare _ already touched on. it is a nightmare scenario - already touched on. it is a nightmare scenario for - already touched on. it is a| nightmare scenario for any already touched on. it is a - nightmare scenario for any finance minister ih— nightmare scenario for any finance minister. in france, _ nightmare scenario for any finance minister. in france, i— nightmare scenario for any finance minister. in france, i get- nightmare scenario for any finance minister. in france, i get people l minister. in france, i get people asking me — minister. in france, i get people asking me here _ minister. in france, i get people asking me here in— minister. in france, i get people asking me here in the _ minister. in france, i get people asking me here in the uk, - minister. in france, i get peoplel asking me here in the uk, france capped _ asking me here in the uk, france capped its — asking me here in the uk, france capped its energy price _ asking me here in the uk, france capped its energy price rises - asking me here in the uk, france capped its energy price rises at l asking me here in the uk, france . capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't— capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we — capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we do— capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we do that _ capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we do that here? - capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we do that here? i- capped its energy price rises at 4%. why can't we do that here? i point. why can't we do that here? i point out to— why can't we do that here? i point out to them. — why can't we do that here? i point out to them, they _ why can't we do that here? i point out to them, they have _ why can't we do that here? i point out to them, they have state - out to them, they have state controlled _ out to them, they have state controlled energy _ out to them, they have state controlled energy supply- out to them, they have state l controlled energy supply which out to them, they have state - controlled energy supply which took a massive _ controlled energy supply which took a massive hit. — controlled energy supply which took a massive hit, 8— controlled energy supply which took a massive hit, 8 billion _ controlled energy supply which took a massive hit, 8 billion at _ controlled energy supply which took a massive hit, 8 billion at the - a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it a massive hit, 8 billion at the time - it could _ a massive hit, 8 billion at the time - it could he — a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it could be double _ a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it could be double that— a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it could be double that by- a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it could be double that by now i a massive hit, 8 billion at the time — it could be double that by now — i — it could be double that by now — and that— — it could be double that by now — and that is— — it could be double that by now — and that is a — — it could be double that by now — and that is a national— — it could be double that by now — and that is a national asset, - — it could be double that by now — and that is a national asset, the l and that is a national asset, the shareholding. _ and that is a national asset, the shareholding, so the _ and that is a national asset, the shareholding, so the public in. and that is a national asset, the - shareholding, so the public in some way have _ shareholding, so the public in some way have paid for— shareholding, so the public in some way have paid for that. _ shareholding, so the public in some way have paid for that. we - shareholding, so the public in some way have paid for that. we talk - way have paid for that. we talk about _ way have paid for that. we talk about local _ way have paid for that. we talk about local elections, - way have paid for that. we talk about local elections, we - way have paid for that. we talk about local elections, we havel way have paid for that. we talk - about local elections, we have some coming _ about local elections, we have some coming up _ about local elections, we have some coming up in — about local elections, we have some coming up in the _ about local elections, we have some coming up in the uk _ about local elections, we have some coming up in the uk which _ about local elections, we have some coming up in the uk which we - about local elections, we have some coming up in the uk which we may. coming up in the uk which we may talk about— coming up in the uk which we may talk about - — coming up in the uk which we may talk about - any— coming up in the uk which we may talk about — any time _ coming up in the uk which we may talk about — any time where the i talk about — any time where the electorate — talk about — any time where the electorate is _ talk about — any time where the electorate is going _ talk about — any time where the electorate is going poor- talk about — any time where the electorate is going poor every. talk about — any time where the l electorate is going poor every day is a pretty— electorate is going poor every day is a pretty toxic— electorate is going poor every day is a pretty toxic political— is a pretty toxic political situation _ is a pretty toxic political situation to be - is a pretty toxic political situation to be in. - is a pretty toxic political situation to be in. the l is a pretty toxic political- situation to be in. the political offer you — situation to be in. the political offer you make _ situation to be in. the political offer you make to _ situation to be in. the political offer you make to decisions i situation to be in. the political offer you make to decisions of| situation to be in. the political- offer you make to decisions of any country— offer you make to decisions of any country is. — offer you make to decisions of any country is, stick _ offer you make to decisions of any country is, stick with _ offer you make to decisions of any country is, stick with me, - offer you make to decisions of any country is, stick with me, you - offer you make to decisions of any country is, stick with me, you will| country is, stick with me, you will be a _ country is, stick with me, you will be a bit _ country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better— country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better off _ country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better off by _ country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better off by the - country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better off by the time - country is, stick with me, you will be a bit better off by the time we | be a bit better off by the time we finished — be a bit better off by the time we finished and _ be a bit better off by the time we finished and by— be a bit better off by the time we finished and by the _ be a bit better off by the time we finished and by the time - be a bit better off by the time we finished and by the time we - be a bit better off by the time we i finished and by the time we started, and it— finished and by the time we started, and it is— finished and by the time we started, and it is hard— finished and by the time we started, and it is hard to _ finished and by the time we started, and it is hard to see how— finished and by the time we started, and it is hard to see how any- and it is hard to see how any politician _ and it is hard to see how any politician can— and it is hard to see how any politician can deliver- and it is hard to see how any politician can deliver on - and it is hard to see how any. politician can deliver on that... and _ politician can deliver on that... and by the _ politician can deliver on that... and by the way, my _ politician can deliver on that...

and by the way, my dam - politician can deliver on that... and by the way, my dam le . politician can deliver on that... . and by the way, my dam le pen politician can deliver on that... - and by the way, my dam le pen did the campaigning not on the veil of muslim _ the campaigning not on the veil of muslim women, not on the question of her links— muslim women, not on the question of her links with russia and that sort of thing. — her links with russia and that sort of thing, only on the cost of living, and she got 42%. it shows it is the _ living, and she got 42%. it shows it is the foremost issue, and macron will have _ is the foremost issue, and macron will have to — is the foremost issue, and macron will have to take care of that, despite — will have to take care of that, despite the fact that, as you said, the energy— despite the fact that, as you said, the energy price cap, inflation is not lower— the energy price cap, inflation is not lower than here, there is no protection — not lower than here, there is no protection for workers. during the campaign. — protection for workers. during the campaign, he said, we will have retirement— campaign, he said, we will have retirement above 65 instead of 60. now he _ retirement above 65 instead of 60. now he can — retirement above 65 instead of 60. now he can forget that. the problem as welcome — now he can forget that. the problem as welcome as _ now he can forget that. the problem as welcome as you _ now he can forget that. the problem as welcome as you mentioned, - now he can forget that. the problem as welcome as you mentioned, we i as welcome as you mentioned, we stopped think about afghanistan, because everybody threw themselves into ukraine, and that is what emmanuel macron did. the first round of the presidential elections, he was barely visible, wasn't he? and

was barely visible, wasn't he? and arain, his was barely visible, wasn't he? and again. his turf _ was barely visible, wasn't he? fific again, his turf moor was barely visible, wasn't he? situc again, his turf moor he was barely visible, wasn't he? a"1c again, his turf moor he is comfortable is foreign policy, that great statesman role. he won't be able to get away. again for him going forward, he has pledged to try to bring the country together, as many politicians do, but there is no clear path into how he will bring the country together. what clear path into how he will bring the country together.— the country together. what role miaht the country together. what role might there _ the country together. what role might there be _ the country together. what role might there be for _ the country together. what role might there be for the - the country together. what role i might there be for the third-place might there be for the third—place finisher? the role of the prime minister, with that big climate change remit, how tempted would macron be to put him in that post? he cannot put him in that post, it is the _ he cannot put him in that post, it is the french electorate who have to decide. and — is the french electorate who have to decide, and he almost beat green le pen to— decide, and he almost beat green le pen to be _ decide, and he almost beat green le pen to be — decide, and he almost beat green le pen to be it would have been a much _ pen to be it would have been a much more — pen to be it would have been a much more interesting election for one of— much more interesting election for one of the — much more interesting election for one of the possible but not probable is that _ one of the possible but not probable is that he _ one of the possible but not probable is that he has the majority or that macron. — is that he has the majority or that macron, and then become spring

minister. — macron, and then become spring minister, and then you have a completely... 0ne minister, and then you have a completely... one on the right and the completely... 0ne on the right and the other— completely... one on the right and the other on— completely... one on the right and the other on the left. it would be for france — the other on the left. it would be for france very bad. but the polls show _ for france very bad. but the polls show at _ for france very bad. but the polls show at the moment that macron will have the _ show at the moment that macron will have the majority, because generally people _ have the majority, because generally people vote the same way for the presidency as the parliamentary election. — presidency as the parliamentary election, but surprises can happen. indeed. _ election, but surprises can happen. indeed, they certainly can. we will have to carry on talking about different elections, because as simon said, next week, there're local elections here in the uk.

borisjohnson is expected to lose a lot of support. butjust how bad are the results likely to be? and will they be enough to trigger a vote of no confidence by the tories in the prime minister? 0ften often in the middle of a national term, the electorate are keen to give the incumbent government a bloody nose. how likely is that? abs, bloody nose. how likely is that? a couple of issues here for the one thing _ couple of issues here for the one thing is _ couple of issues here for the one thing is that— couple of issues here for the one thing is that you _ couple of issues here for the one thing is that you are _ couple of issues here for the one thing is that you are right, - couple of issues here for the one thing is that you are right, these| thing is that you are right, these are local— thing is that you are right, these are local elections, _ thing is that you are right, these are local elections, they- thing is that you are right, these are local elections, they are - thing is that you are right, these are local elections, they are city| are local elections, they are city councils. — are local elections, they are city councils, county— are local elections, they are city councils, county councils, - are local elections, they are city| councils, county councils, where people get— councils, county councils, where people get to express _ councils, county councils, where people get to express their - people get to express their democratically... _ people get to express their democratically... how- people get to express their democratically... how theyj people get to express their. democratically... how they are feeling — democratically... how they are feeling about _ democratically... how they are feeling about life _ democratically... how they are feeling about life in _ democratically... how they are feeling about life in general, . democratically... how they are l feeling about life in general, and that can — feeling about life in general, and that can be — feeling about life in general, and that can be seen... _ feeling about life in general, and that can be seen... the - feeling about life in general, and| that can be seen... the particular imports _ that can be seen... the particular imports of— that can be seen... the particular imports of this one _ that can be seen... the particular imports of this one is that - that can be seen... the particular. imports of this one is that everyone is looking _ imports of this one is that everyone is looking. — imports of this one is that everyone is looking, including _ is looking, including boris johnson's _ is looking, including boris johnson's own— is looking, including boris johnson's own mps. - is looking, including boris johnson's own mps. theyl is looking, including boris i johnson's own mps. they are is looking, including boris - johnson's own mps. they are still not sure — johnson's own mps. they are still not sure whether— johnson's own mps. they are still not sure whether the _ johnson's own mps. they are still not sure whether the man - johnson's own mps. they are still not sure whether the man who i not sure whether the man who delivered — not sure whether the man who delivered a _ not sure whether the man who delivered a massive _ not sure whether the man who delivered a massive majority l not sure whether the man who| delivered a massive majority is still an— delivered a massive majority is still an electrical— delivered a massive majority is still an electrical asset, - delivered a massive majority is still an electrical asset, or- still an electrical asset, or through— still an electrical asset, or through various _ still an electrical asset, or through various scandals, | still an electrical asset, or— through various scandals, partygate, etc, through various scandals, partygate, etc. or— through various scandals, partygate, etc. or if— through various scandals, partygate, etc. or if he — through various scandals, partygate, etc. or if he is — through various scandals, partygate, etc. or if he is a _ through various scandals, partygate, etc, or if he is a liability. _ through various scandals, partygate, etc, or if he is a liability. he - through various scandals, partygate, etc, or if he is a liability. he has- etc, or if he is a liability. he has not been — etc, or if he is a liability. he has not been tested _ etc, or if he is a liability. he has not been tested yet _ etc, or if he is a liability. he has not been tested yet about - etc, or if he is a liability. he has not been tested yet about whatl etc, or if he is a liability. he has. not been tested yet about what is electoral— not been tested yet about what is electoral brand _ not been tested yet about what is electoral brand is _

not been tested yet about what is electoral brand is still— not been tested yet about what is electoral brand is still worth. - not been tested yet about what is electoral brand is still worth. the| electoral brand is still worth. the people will— electoral brand is still worth. the people will be looking _ electoral brand is still worth. the people will be looking for - electoral brand is still worth. the people will be looking for that. electoral brand is still worth. the. people will be looking for that and everybody — people will be looking for that and everybody will _ people will be looking for that and everybody will be _ people will be looking for that and everybody will be looking - people will be looking for that and everybody will be looking like - everybody will be looking like hawks added _ everybody will be looking like hawks added. however, _ everybody will be looking like hawks added. however, many— everybody will be looking like hawks added. however, many of— everybody will be looking like hawks added. however, many of the - everybody will be looking like hawks added. however, many of the seats| added. however, many of the seats were won _ added. however, many of the seats were won by— added. however, many of the seats were won by labour— added. however, many of the seats were won by labour in _ added. however, many of the seats were won by labour in times- added. however, many of the seats were won by labour in times when. were won by labour in times when labour— were won by labour in times when labour was — were won by labour in times when labour was doing _ were won by labour in times when labour was doing very _ were won by labour in times when labour was doing very well, - were won by labour in times when labour was doing very well, so - were won by labour in times when| labour was doing very well, so the potential— labour was doing very well, so the potential for a _ labour was doing very well, so the potential for a massive lady- labour was doing very well, so the potential for a massive lady knowsj potential for a massive lady knows in terms _ potential for a massive lady knows in terms of — potential for a massive lady knows in terms of huge _ potential for a massive lady knows in terms of huge numbers- potential for a massive lady knows in terms of huge numbers of- potential for a massive lady knows in terms of huge numbers of city. in terms of huge numbers of city councils— in terms of huge numbers of city councils moving _ in terms of huge numbers of city councils moving to _ in terms of huge numbers of city councils moving to labour, - in terms of huge numbers of city| councils moving to labour, many in terms of huge numbers of city. councils moving to labour, many of them _ councils moving to labour, many of them already— councils moving to labour, many of them already are, so _ councils moving to labour, many of them already are, so to _ councils moving to labour, many of them already are, so to see... - councils moving to labour, many of. them already are, so to see... there won't _ them already are, so to see... there won't be _ them already are, so to see... there won't be this— them already are, so to see... there won't be this kind _ them already are, so to see... there won't be this kind of— them already are, so to see... there won't be this kind of wave, _ them already are, so to see... there won't be this kind of wave, but- won't be this kind of wave, but there _ won't be this kind of wave, but there will— won't be this kind of wave, but there will be _ won't be this kind of wave, but there will be little _ won't be this kind of wave, but there will be little pockets - there will be little pockets in those — there will be little pockets in those red wall— there will be little pockets in those red wall seats, - there will be little pockets in those red wall seats, seats i there will be little pockets in i those red wall seats, seats that used _ those red wall seats, seats that used to — those red wall seats, seats that used to vote _ those red wall seats, seats that used to vote labour, _ those red wall seats, seats that used to vote labour, year- those red wall seats, seats that used to vote labour, year afterl used to vote labour, year after year. _ used to vote labour, year after year, generation— used to vote labour, year after year, generation after- used to vote labour, year after. year, generation after generation, which _ year, generation after generation, which voted — year, generation after generation, which voted conservative - year, generation after generation, which voted conservative — - year, generation after generation, which voted conservative — they. year, generation after generation, i which voted conservative — they will be little _ which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. _ which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. will— which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. will it _ which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. will it be - which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. will it be a - which voted conservative — they will be little pockets. will it be a sea - be little pockets. will it be a sea change? — be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i— be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i am _ be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i am not _ be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i am not sure _ be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i am not sure it - be little pockets. will it be a sea change? i am not sure it will- change? i am not sure it will deliver— change? i am not sure it will deliver a _ change? i am not sure it will deliver a definitive _ change? i am not sure it will deliver a definitive verdict i change? i am not sure it will| deliver a definitive verdict on boris — deliver a definitive verdict on borisjohnson's brand - deliver a definitive verdict on boris johnson's brand as - deliver a definitive verdict on l borisjohnson's brand as prime minister — borisjohnson's brand as prime minister inie— boris johnson's brand as prime minister. ~ ., ., , minister. we have to remember, in northern ireland, _ minister. we have to remember, in northern ireland, it _ minister. we have to remember, in northern ireland, it is _ northern ireland, it is different again, because they're looking to get their devolved government in stormont up and running again. how is borisjohnson regarded in the

gulf, mina? he has made a big thing 6ulf, mina? he has made a big thing about, let's forget about partygate, let's get on the business, and he has had a lot of praise from volodymyr zelensky on support the uk is given to ukraine. he is volodymyr zelensky on support the uk is given to ukraine.— is given to ukraine. he is quite --oular is given to ukraine. he is quite popular in _ is given to ukraine. he is quite popular in for _ is given to ukraine. he is quite popular in for sure. _ is given to ukraine. he is quite popular in for sure. the - is given to ukraine. he is quite popular in for sure. the way i is given to ukraine. he is quite l popular in for sure. the way they look at him in the gulf is trying to understand if you will last as a politician. the uk's position as a country is still usually influential in the gulf commensal borisjohnson really benefits from that rather than borisjohnson himself delivering it. on the contrary, if you had a stronger prime minister, the tides would be quite strong, because of the absence of the us at the moment when it comes to the gulf, some in some ways, he could do 6ulf, some in some ways, he could do better, but given all his domestic woes, it is a wait and see situation. when he went to india, he tried to stage all these moments, but it really did not go very far, and again the indians are looking to the uk because of traditional ties with india rather than borisjohnson

himself really furthering much of these relationships. what is important is, again, for the local elections, the way people see this is that, what does this mean for the government, but also how will the rise in cost—of—living, how will inflation actually impact this government? and a strong economy like the uk, compared to other countries which are going to suffer much more from the rising possible in cost around the world. local politicians _ in cost around the world. local politicians might _ in cost around the world. local politicians might have - in cost around the world. local politicians might have nothing| in cost around the world. local politicians might have nothing to do with fixing these national problems at all, marc, but that is what people choose to vote on in some cases. ., . ., , ., cases. local elections are very often a protest _ cases. local elections are very often a protest vote _ cases. local elections are very often a protest vote on - cases. local elections are very. often a protest vote on national issues. — often a protest vote on national issues, and i find borisjohnson ektremely— issues, and i find borisjohnson extremely vulnerable not only because — extremely vulnerable not only because of partygate because our blood. _ because of partygate because our blood, because for the first time, we have _ blood, because for the first time, we have seen a possible successor chumming — we have seen a possible successor chumming up. the defence secretary ben wallace, the foreign circuitry

liz truss— ben wallace, the foreign circuitry liz truss were not really considered. —— foreign secretary full-time— considered. —— foreign secretary full—time now they are being taken seriously — full—time now they are being taken seriously. the problem is expecting no gift— seriously. the problem is expecting no gift from the europeans, because brexit— no gift from the europeans, because brexit is still... in france, it is still the — brexit is still... in france, it is still the issue that divides england and the _ still the issue that divides england and the uk from the european union. 0n and the uk from the european union. on all— and the uk from the european union. on all the _ and the uk from the european union. on all the things on brexit, he will be blocked — on all the things on brexit, he will be blocked by the european union, so he cannot— be blocked by the european union, so he cannot expect anything on the side of— he cannot expect anything on the side of the channel. it is interesting. _ side of the channel. it is interesting. i— side of the channel. it is interesting. i think - side of the channel. it is i interesting. i think we have side of the channel. it is interesting. i think we have seen... you talk— interesting. i think we have seen... you talk about. _ interesting. i think we have seen... you talk about, there's _ interesting. i think we have seen... you talk about, there's not - interesting. i think we have seen... you talk about, there's not much i you talk about, there's not much talk about— you talk about, there's not much talk about brexit, _ you talk about, there's not much talk about brexit, i— you talk about, there's not much talk about brexit, i think- you talk about, there's not much talk about brexit, i think people. you talk about, there's not much| talk about brexit, i think people i been _ talk about brexit, i think people i been cagey. _ talk about brexit, i think people i been cagey, because _ talk about brexit, i think people i been cagey, because they- talk about brexit, i think people i been cagey, because they think l talk about brexit, i think people i. been cagey, because they think that ship has sailed. _ been cagey, because they think that ship has sailed, but there _ ship has sailed, but there is emerging _ ship has sailed, but there is emerging evidence - ship has sailed, but there is emerging evidence that - ship has sailed, but there is- emerging evidence that trade as a percentage — emerging evidence that trade as a percentage of— emerging evidence that trade as a percentage of the _ emerging evidence that trade as a percentage of the uk _ emerging evidence that trade as a percentage of the uk economy- emerging evidence that trade as a| percentage of the uk economy has fallen— percentage of the uk economy has fallen two— percentage of the uk economy has

fallen two and _ percentage of the uk economy has fallen two and a _ percentage of the uk economy has fallen two and a half— percentage of the uk economy has fallen two and a half times - percentage of the uk economy has fallen two and a half times faster. fallen two and a half times faster than any— fallen two and a half times faster than any other— fallen two and a half times faster than any other 67 _ fallen two and a half times faster than any other 67 economy, - fallen two and a half times faster than any other 67 economy, youi fallen two and a half times faster. than any other 67 economy, you had the uk. _ than any other 67 economy, you had the uk. they— than any other 67 economy, you had the uk. they were _ than any other 67 economy, you had the uk, they were supposed - than any other 67 economy, you had the uk, they were supposed to- than any other 67 economy, you had the uk, they were supposed to havej the uk, they were supposed to have these border— the uk, they were supposed to have these border checks coming - the uk, they were supposed to have these border checks coming in the l these border checks coming in the same way— these border checks coming in the same way as they _ these border checks coming in the same way as they come out. - these border checks coming in the . same way as they come out. they've decided _ same way as they come out. they've decided after — same way as they come out. they've decided after many _ same way as they come out. they've decided after many years, _ same way as they come out. they've decided after many years, they - same way as they come out. they've decided after many years, they are l decided after many years, they are saying. _ decided after many years, they are saying. given — decided after many years, they are saying, given what is _ decided after many years, they are saying, given what is going - decided after many years, they are saying, given what is going on, - decided after many years, they are saying, given what is going on, we| saying, given what is going on, we are not— saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to _ saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to bother, _ saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to bother, so - saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to bother, so it- saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to bother, so it is- saying, given what is going on, we are not gone to bother, so it is no| are not gone to bother, so it is no surprise that _ are not gone to bother, so it is no surprise that if— are not gone to bother, so it is no surprise that if you _ are not gone to bother, so it is no surprise that if you look _ are not gone to bother, so it is no surprise that if you look to - are not gone to bother, so it is no. surprise that if you look to europe, the conservative _ surprise that if you look to europe, the conservative government is- surprise that if you look to europe, | the conservative government is not going to _ the conservative government is not going to find — the conservative government is not going to find too _ the conservative government is not going to find too many _ the conservative government is not going to find too many friends - going to find too many friends there. — going to find too many friends there. but— going to find too many friends there, but again _ going to find too many friends there, but again the _ going to find too many friends there, but again the questioni going to find too many friends i there, but again the question will be, there, but again the question will be. and _ there, but again the question will be. and you — there, but again the question will be, and you made _ there, but again the question will be, and you made that _ there, but again the question will be, and you made that point, - there, but again the question will be, and you made that point, can you _ be, and you made that point, can you do — be, and you made that point, can you... do people _ be, and you made that point, can you... do people blame - be, and you made that point, can you... do people blame their- be, and you made that point, can. you... do people blame their local councillor— you... do people blame their local councillor who _ you... do people blame their local councillor who may— you... do people blame their local councillor who may be _ you... do people blame their local. councillor who may be conservative for the _ councillor who may be conservative for the fact — councillor who may be conservative for the fact that _ councillor who may be conservative for the fact that local— councillor who may be conservative for the fact that local gas _ councillor who may be conservative for the fact that local gas prices - for the fact that local gas prices have _ for the fact that local gas prices have historic levels _ for the fact that local gas prices have historic levels and - for the fact that local gas prices have historic levels and are - for the fact that local gas prices i have historic levels and are doing so around — have historic levels and are doing so around the _ have historic levels and are doing so around the world? _ have historic levels and are doing so around the world? or- have historic levels and are doing so around the world? or do - have historic levels and are doing so around the world? or do they. have historic levels and are doing - so around the world? or do they want their bins— so around the world? or do they want their bins collected _ so around the world? or do they want their bins collected more _ so around the world? or do they want their bins collected more often? - so around the world? or do they want their bins collected more often? find. their bins collected more often? and those consuls. _ their bins collected more often? those consuls, who have to provide those consuls, who have to provide those local services like your bins being taken out, local services— they are struggling for money,

aren't they? did they put up business rates and drive more businesses out of business? or do they reduce their aspirations when it comes to services? we they reduce their aspirations when it comes to services?— it comes to services? we have in this country. _ it comes to services? we have in this country. as _ it comes to services? we have in this country, as you _ it comes to services? we have in this country, as you do _ it comes to services? we have in this country, as you do in - it comes to services? we have in this country, as you do in europe it comes to services? we have in i this country, as you do in europe in many— this country, as you do in europe in many countries, and _ this country, as you do in europe in many countries, and energy- this country, as you do in europe in many countries, and energy price i this country, as you do in europe in i many countries, and energy price cap for retail— many countries, and energy price cap for retail customers, _ many countries, and energy price cap for retail customers, and _ many countries, and energy price cap for retail customers, and it _ many countries, and energy price cap for retail customers, and it does - for retail customers, and it does not ekist— for retail customers, and it does not exist for— for retail customers, and it does not exist for permit _ for retail customers, and it does not exist for permit offices, - for retail customers, and it does not exist for permit offices, for. not exist for permit offices, for businesses. _ not exist for permit offices, for businesses. so— not exist for permit offices, for businesses, so if— not exist for permit offices, forj businesses, so if running social housing — businesses, so if running social housing projects _ businesses, so if running social housing projects where - businesses, so if running social housing projects where you - businesses, so if running social. housing projects where you have businesses, so if running social- housing projects where you have to keep the _ housing projects where you have to keep the heating _ housing projects where you have to keep the heating on, _ housing projects where you have to keep the heating on, you're - housing projects where you have to| keep the heating on, you're running social care — keep the heating on, you're running social care homes _ keep the heating on, you're running social care homes of _ keep the heating on, you're running social care homes of the _ keep the heating on, you're running social care homes of the economicsj social care homes of the economics of that— social care homes of the economics of that our— social care homes of the economics of that our disasters _ social care homes of the economics of that our disasters at _ social care homes of the economics of that our disasters at the - of that our disasters at the moment, and i_ of that our disasters at the moment, and i think— of that our disasters at the moment, and i think that — of that our disasters at the moment, and i think that is _ of that our disasters at the moment, and i think that is where... _ of that our disasters at the moment, and i think that is where... those - and i think that is where... those are the _ and i think that is where... those are the kind — and i think that is where... those are the kind of— and i think that is where... those are the kind of services _ and i think that is where... those are the kind of services were - and i think that is where... those i are the kind of services were people feel the energy— are the kind of services were people feel the energy crisis and _ are the kind of services were people feel the energy crisis and what - feel the energy crisis and what is going _ feel the energy crisis and what is going on— feel the energy crisis and what is going on actually— feel the energy crisis and what is going on actually hits _ feel the energy crisis and what is going on actually hits their- feel the energy crisis and what is going on actually hits their life, i going on actually hits their life, and whether— going on actually hits their life, and whether they— going on actually hits their life, and whether they blame - going on actually hits their life, and whether they blame their. going on actually hits their life, . and whether they blame their local councillors, whether— and whether they blame their local councillors, whether they blame i councillors, whether they blame borisjohnson _ councillors, whether they blame boris johnson or whether - councillors, whether they blame boris johnson or whether they. councillors, whether they blame i boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir— boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir putin— boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir putin for— boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir putin for that _ boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir putin for that will _ boris johnson or whether they blame vladimir putin for that will be - vladimir putin for that will be quite — vladimir putin for that will be quite an— vladimir putin for that will be quite an interesting _ vladimir putin for that will be quite an interesting thing i vladimir putin for that will be quite an interesting thing to i vladimir putin for that will be i quite an interesting thing to see next _ quite an interesting thing to see next week _ quite an interesting thing to see next week-— quite an interesting thing to see next week. ,, ., , ., , ., next week. quite a few people who choose from _ next week. quite a few people who choose from in _ next week. quite a few people who choose from in the _ next week. quite a few people who choose from in the blame - next week. quite a few people who choose from in the blame game! i next week. quite a few people who. choose from in the blame game! for those choose from in the blame game! fr?“ those who feel strongly about partygate, and whether they can trust the conservative or not, it

really will come down to emotions and trust also this is a way to get that message across, so i think in some cases, if people do blame the war in ukraine or global developments, they want to say, but in the past, we know longer trust the conservatives in the way we did before, and that shows much more in local politics than on the national level. 1 local politics than on the national level. . ., ., local politics than on the national level. ... ., . local politics than on the national level. .., ., , , local politics than on the national level. ., , , ., level. i could not visit my mother in a care home — level. i could not visit my mother in a care home imac _ level. i could not visit my mother in a care home imac room - level. i could not visit my mother. in a care home imac room exactly. if in a care home imac room exactly. 11” there in a care home imac room exactly. there is a way to get it out. and there is a way to get it out. and the other question is, where is labour? and if you had a strong opposition party, i don't know how this government would survive, andy lib dems. it this government would survive, andy lib dems. . this government would survive, andy lib dems. , ., :: ., ., ., this government would survive, andy libdems. , ., :: ., ., ., ., lib dems. it is not 50 national or local, it lib dems. it is not 50 national or local. it is _ lib dems. it is not 50 national or local, it is down _ lib dems. it is not 50 national or local, it is down the personal. i lib dems. it is not 50 national or. local, it is down the personal. that is all we have time for this week. if you to our panelists, mina, marc and simon. thank you for watching. see you next week, same time, same place. —— thank you to our

panelists. 6oodbye. hello. the sunnier skies that many of us saw today not necessarily a sign of things to come this bank holiday weekend. in fact, there is actually a bit of rain in the forecast. that may be a good thing in some areas. here's a bit of blue sky that we enjoyed during friday. high pressure has kept us dry for quite a while now, but here comes low pressure, weatherfronts and, yeah, this is some rain into northern ireland and scotland during saturday. now, overnight, the cloud will increase in northern ireland and western scotland along with the breeze, and so here that will keep the frost at bay. whereas elsewhere, through southern scotland, wales and england, you can see the blue here. there'll be a patchy frost and the coldest spots will be down below freezing going into the morning. a cold start then, but with plenty of sunshine. away from that incoming weather system that will bring rain

across northern ireland and western scotland during the morning, across the rest of scotland into the afternoon and towards north west england and north wales during the afternoon. ahead of that, after all that morning sunshine, cloud's going to increase. there'll be further sunny spells, though. it'll be a warmer day compared with today in east anglia and south east england. it will be a cooler, windier day with the rain in northern ireland and scotland. and the rain does move south overnight and into sunday. now, it is going to weaken, but it still has rain with it, as you can see, particularly through wales, the midlands and the western side of england, but also some outbreaks of rain reaching further east across england on what will be a much milder night. after tonight, there's no frost for the rest of the weekend and into the start of next week. so, sunday then, here's another look at this system. yes, gradually petering out, but still with a little rain. now, as it is weakening, there probably won't be very much rain at all where we've had such a dry april, and particularly across the east and south east of england. that said, though, will still be damp in places on sunday.

still outbreaks of rain on into the afternoon here, whereas for scotland and northern ireland, well, it'll be mainly dry, there'll be some sunny spells coming through. and for sunday, it's a warmer day, whereas for england and wales, with all of that cloud and rain, it will be a cooler day. and then for the bank holiday itself, there's a lot of cloud around. there'll be a few sunny spells here and there whilst many places will stay dry. there's also a chance of seeing some showers, i think particularly across northern areas of the uk. a colder day in northern scotland, a touch warmer again by then in england and wales.

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