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hour long interview with the culture secretary. the bad news is you have to share it with me. fair secretary. the bad news is you have to share it with me.— hello, it is adam in the studio. we arejoined by the hello, it is adam in the studio. we are joined by the culture secretary. hello. ~ u, are joined by the culture secretary. hello. ~ _, ., ., are joined by the culture secretary. hello. ~ ., ., , , hello. welcome. you are responsible for so many — hello. welcome. you are responsible for so many important _ hello. welcome. you are responsible for so many important issues - hello. welcome. you are responsible for so many important issues in - hello. welcome. you are responsible for so many important issues in the l for so many important issues in the media. we will get to your brief in a minute. what do you think about the new political editor? i a minute. what do you think about the new political editor?— the new political editor? i think he is lovel . the new political editor? i think he is lovely- he _ the new political editor? i think he is lovely. he is _ the new political editor? i think he is lovely. he is a _ the new political editor? i think he is lovely. he is a great _ the new political editor? i think he is lovely. he is a great choice. - is lovely. he is a great choice. thank— is lovely. he is a great choice. thank you _ is lovely. he is a great choice. thank you i_ is lovely. he is a great choice. thank you. i did not see that coming. i thought you were going to talk about actual news.— talk about actual news. there is loads of things _ talk about actual news. there is loads of things to _ talk about actual news. there is loads of things to talk _ talk about actual news. there is loads of things to talk about. talk about actual news. there is loads of things to talk about in l loads of things to talk about in your department. the online safety belt which is in parliament a few days ago. the broadcasting white

paper published say you had it in your bag when you got here. there's been lots of news outlets westminster this week about the culture. you are the culture secretary. but how have you felt this week story after story with westminster looking pretty terrible? the broadcasting has been 350 nowadays and i have not really had much _ nowadays and i have not really had much of— nowadays and i have not really had much of an— nowadays and i have not really had much of an eye and what's going on in westminster but i've caught up on some _ in westminster but i've caught up on some of— in westminster but i've caught up on some of it _ in westminster but i've caught up on some of it this afternoon and it's disappointing. if it was in the bbc you would — disappointing. if it was in the bbc you would be disappointed. when you hear about— you would be disappointed. when you hear about colleagues behaving badly or inappropriately you feel let down yourself _ or inappropriately you feel let down yourself. he or inappropriately you feel let down ourself. , , ., ., ., or inappropriately you feel let down ourself. ,, ., ., ., yourself. he spent a lot of your wakin: yourself. he spent a lot of your waking life _ yourself. he spent a lot of your waking life doing _ yourself. he spent a lot of your waking life doing other- yourself. he spent a lot of your waking life doing other stuff. . yourself. he spent a lot of your| waking life doing other stuff. to what extent when you see the headlines we have seen in the last week event illustrative of society

at large and the problems society has or something that is somehow worse here for whatever reason that might be? i worse here for whatever reason that miaht be? ., ~' worse here for whatever reason that miaht be? ., ~ , ., , worse here for whatever reason that miahtbe? ., ~' , ., , ~ ,, might be? i worked ten years in mhs emblem business _ might be? i worked ten years in mhs emblem business before _ might be? i worked ten years in mhs emblem business before got - might be? i worked ten years in mhs emblem business before got into - emblem business before got into politics— emblem business before got into politics and had been in politics a longtime — politics and had been in politics a long time as well. i have been around — long time as well. i have been around a — long time as well. i have been around a while. i think it's getting worse~ _ around a while. i think it's getting worse. what i had to deal with when i worse. what i had to deal with when i -ot worse. what i had to deal with when i got here _ worse. what i had to deal with when i got here was man's blaming and being— i got here was man's blaming and being treated like i don't know secreiary _ being treated like i don't know secretary and all that kind of stuff — secretary and all that kind of stuff. having to speak very loudly to be _ stuff. having to speak very loudly to be heard and speak of a man in meetings — to be heard and speak of a man in meetings not being listened to when you spoke _ meetings not being listened to when you spoke. i had to deal with that kind of— you spoke. i had to deal with that kind of stuff. i think there are changes— kind of stuff. i think there are changes happening in westminster. i thought— changes happening in westminster. i thought get more women in, things will get _ thought get more women in, things will get better. but i don't think i see that — will get better. but i don't think i see that happening at the moment. it

is disappointing. | see that happening at the moment. it is disappointing-— is disappointing. i cannot believe somebody might _ is disappointing. i cannot believe somebody might have _ is disappointing. i cannot believe somebody might have been - is disappointing. i cannot believe - somebody might have been watching pawn in the house of commons chamber. �* ., ., ., chamber. and the mother of all parliaments — chamber. and the mother of all parliaments. what's _ chamber. and the mother of all parliaments. what's importantl chamber. and the mother of all. parliaments. what's important is this was— parliaments. what's important is this was not in place for much of the time — this was not in place for much of the time i— this was not in place for much of the time i have been an mp probably for 15_ the time i have been an mp probably for 15 years— the time i have been an mp probably for 15 years or so is that there is no -- _ for 15 years or so is that there is no -- a — for 15 years or so is that there is no —— a proper process in place so that— no —— a proper process in place so that the _ no —— a proper process in place so that the people who saw that happening have some way to go and are supported as victims of that because — are supported as victims of that because i— are supported as victims of that because i would feel pretty disgusted and violated it eilish sat next to— disgusted and violated it eilish sat next to someone who was watching pawn _ next to someone who was watching pawn on _ next to someone who was watching pawn on their phone. so the fact that there — pawn on their phone. so the fact that there is some work that most people _ that there is some work that most people can — that there is some work that most people can go but that there's a process in— people can go but that there's a process in place to deal with that inappropriate behaviour and put in place _ inappropriate behaviour and put in place the — inappropriate behaviour and put in place the right sanctions. it's quite — place the right sanctions. it's quite comforting to know that assistant is there now because for 15 years— assistant is there now because for 15 years it — assistant is there now because for 15 years it was nothing like that. the fact— 15 years it was nothing like that. the fact that that is they are now

is pretty— the fact that that is they are now is pretty important. and that i suppose — is pretty important. and that i suppose speaks to a more professional side of westminster and that it _ professional side of westminster and that it is _ professional side of westminster and that it is catching up with the real world _ that it is catching up with the real world and — that it is catching up with the real world and what happens in the real world _ world and what happens in the real world. ., , ., ,, ., ., , world and what happens in the real world. ., ., , , world. that professionalism is in place- when _ world. that professionalism is in place- when you _ world. that professionalism is in place. when you said _ world. that professionalism is in place. when you said things - world. that professionalism is in place. when you said things got | place. when you said things got worse and wondering what you meant. i think watching pornography on phones — i think watching pornography on phones referring to that and that'sjust because of the advancement of technology and the means _ advancement of technology and the means to _ advancement of technology and the means to be able to do that now. but if an means to be able to do that now. pm if an environment where someone felt comfortable to do that. and it's appropriate to do that which is extraordinary.— appropriate to do that which is extraordina . ., , ., , �*, extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing _ extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing a _ extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing a line, _ extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing a line, a _ extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing a line, a line - extraordinary. two-year shock it's like crossing a line, a line that - like crossing a line, a line that was _ like crossing a line, a line that was tipped over.— like crossing a line, a line that was tipped over. that is this week. the other thing _ was tipped over. that is this week. the other thing you _ was tipped over. that is this week. the other thing you were _ was tipped over. that is this week. the other thing you were doing - was tipped over. that is this week. | the other thing you were doing was that broadcasting. loads of stuff about the future of tv, on—demand, video you name it. one of the big things is privatising channel for and i was reading the responses to

the consultation you did and it sounds like 99.9% of responses say don't privatise it so why are you? we listen to the consultation and read every— we listen to the consultation and read every single response but i would _ read every single response but i would make to point out that over 40.000 _ would make to point out that over 40.000 of— would make to point out that over 40,000 of those responses came from politically— 40,000 of those responses came from politically motivated recognisation 38 degrees so template responses. thats— 38 degrees so template responses. that's important. look at the consultation responses this is the public— consultation responses this is the public that shows 50% did not even know _ public that shows 50% did not even know that — public that shows 50% did not even know that channel for was state owned — know that channel for was state owned so — know that channel for was state owned so it's notjust the one consultation process that we have taken _ consultation process that we have taken but — consultation process that we have taken but our responsibility as a government is to take of you and how view is _ government is to take of you and how view is that— government is to take of you and how view is that we need to future proof channel— view is that we need to future proof channel for— view is that we need to future proof channel for and protected for the future _ channel for and protected for the future. you have just in your opening _ future. you have just in your opening comments done the job for me. opening comments done the job for me we _ opening comments done the job for me we are — opening comments done the job for me. we are on very different landscapes today. it is changing at

warp speed, it's notjust public it's netflix, amazon prime, disney press, all— it's netflix, amazon prime, disney press, all of those streamers which are now— press, all of those streamers which are now changing the broadcasting landscape dramatically. jennifer is saying _ landscape dramatically. jennifer is saying we — landscape dramatically. jennifer is saying we would like to raise investment and we are seeing guests you cannot _ investment and we are seeing guests you cannot raise investment when you are your— you cannot raise investment when you are your licence does not allow to do that _ are your licence does not allow to do that let — are your licence does not allow to do that. let us not go down the avenue — do that. let us not go down the avenue lrut— do that. let us not go down the avenue but you can't do that while your estate — avenue but you can't do that while your estate on. matt privatising with prominence which is now the broadcasting white paper which will be media _ broadcasting white paper which will be media we will allow you to raise that investment so that you can grow and innovate and the sky is dynamicp _ and innovate and the sky is dynamic-— and innovate and the sky is d namic,. ., �*, . ., and innovate and the sky is dnamic,. . ., dynamic,. that's the criticism you hear from — dynamic,. that's the criticism you hear from the _ dynamic,. that's the criticism you hear from the smaller _ dynamic,. that's the criticism you hear from the smaller production | hear from the smaller production companies. if you allow a big production company they could just give all the programmes themselves.

including the fact that channel 4 has been sold as a public service broadcaster. they will be will is about what they have to show? making british contents _ about what they have to show? making british contents which _ about what they have to show? making british contents which is _ about what they have to show? making british contents which is essential - british contents which is essential british— british contents which is essential british contents which is essential british content and that money is still spent — british content and that money is still spent in the region and lots of caveats— still spent in the region and lots of caveats to protect channel 4. one of the _ of caveats to protect channel 4. one of the reasons we are setting it is the capital— of the reasons we are setting it is the capital really raise is to be invested back into that sector into training _ invested back into that sector into training and skills we have got them studios _ training and skills we have got them studios opening in the uk next year. there _ studios opening in the uk next year. there are _ studios opening in the uk next year. there are people in the city i come from _ there are people in the city i come from and all— there are people in the city i come from and all across the uk who would love to _ from and all across the uk who would love to work — from and all across the uk who would love to work in a film studio. who would _ love to work in a film studio. who would love — love to work in a film studio. who would love to work in the creative industries — would love to work in the creative industries and don't get the chance i’ilht industries and don't get the chance right now — industries and don't get the chance right now. putting that money back into training and back into the

regions — into training and back into the regions and back into those areas that need — regions and back into those areas that need leveraging up so we can train _ that need leveraging up so we can train skills — that need leveraging up so we can train skills to work in that sector and we — train skills to work in that sector and we make more films in the uk in the last— and we make more films in the uk in the last few— and we make more films in the uk in the last few months that they did in hollywood that shows. do the last few months that they did in hollywood that shows.— the last few months that they did in hollywood that shows. do you have a sense of how — hollywood that shows. do you have a sense of how much _ hollywood that shows. do you have a sense of how much money _ hollywood that shows. do you have a sense of how much money you - hollywood that shows. do you have a sense of how much money you thinkl sense of how much money you think you go to generate from the sale of channel for and that the government have of you on who it would not want to buy it? it’s have of you on who it would not want to bu it? �* , , have of you on who it would not want tobu it? to buy it? it's being sold as a public service _ to buy it? it's being sold as a public service podcasts. - to buy it? it's being sold as a public service podcasts. i- to buy it? it's being sold as a public service podcasts. i will to buy it? it's being sold as a - public service podcasts. i will not coming _ public service podcasts. i will not coming too — public service podcasts. i will not coming too much because i cannot. as you can _ coming too much because i cannot. as you can see _ coming too much because i cannot. as you can see from the white paper there are — you can see from the white paper there are lots of caveats in their to protect — there are lots of caveats in their to protect channel 4 and the public sector— to protect channel 4 and the public sector broadcasters and protect that british— sector broadcasters and protect that british contents. that sector broadcasters and protect that british contents.— sector broadcasters and protect that british contents. that may mean you aet less british contents. that may mean you get less money _ british contents. that may mean you get less money for _ british contents. that may mean you get less money for it? _ british contents. that may mean you get less money for it? . _ british contents. that may mean you get less money for it? . i— british contents. that may mean you get less money for it? . i will- british contents. that may mean you get less money for it? . i will make i get less money for it? . i will make a decision on _ get less money for it? . i will make a decision on the _ get less money for it? . i will make a decision on the final _ get less money for it? . i will make a decision on the final bidder- get less money for it? . i will make a decision on the final bidder and l a decision on the final bidder and there _ a decision on the final bidder and there are~~ _ a decision on the final bidder and there are- - -_ there are... what if elon musk bou~ht there are... what if elon musk bought it. _ there are... what if elon musk bought it, would _ there are... what if elon musk bought it, would you _ there are... what if elon musk bought it, would you be - there are... what if elon musk bought it, would you be ok . there are... what if elon muskl bought it, would you be ok with

that? he's got a lot of money to spend on random things. i that? he's got a lot of money to spend on random things.- spend on random things. i don't think he will— spend on random things. i don't think he will be _ spend on random things. i don't think he will be interested. - spend on random things. i don't| think he will be interested. what about rupert _ think he will be interested. what about rupert murdoch? - think he will be interested. what about rupert murdoch? i - think he will be interested. what about rupert murdoch? i will. think he will be interested. what| about rupert murdoch? i will not think he will be interested. what. about rupert murdoch? i will not go down the discussing _ about rupert murdoch? i will not go down the discussing who _ about rupert murdoch? i will not go down the discussing who will - about rupert murdoch? i will not go down the discussing who will buy . about rupert murdoch? i will not go down the discussing who will buy it. | down the discussing who will buy it. i'm down the discussing who will buy it. i'm not— down the discussing who will buy it. i'm not sure — down the discussing who will buy it. i'm not sure it's a wise thing to do. i'm not sure it's a wise thing to do people _ i'm not sure it's a wise thing to do. people now consume their television _ do. people now consume their television where they want and when they want— television where they want and when they want and want whatever they want and — they want and want whatever they want and that has to be taken into account— want and that has to be taken into account and so therefore we put prominence which is going to go into the media _ prominence which is going to go into the media which guarantees when people _ the media which guarantees when people switch on their smart tvs or whatever— people switch on their smart tvs or whatever that channel 4 is listed amongst — whatever that channel 4 is listed amongst those public service broadcasters and easy to find and sell it— broadcasters and easy to find and sell it they— broadcasters and easy to find and sell if they are prominent. that broadcasters and easy to find and sell if they are prominent.- sell if they are prominent. that is a aood sell if they are prominent. that is a good example. _ sell if they are prominent. that is a good example. what _ sell if they are prominent. that is a good example. what do - sell if they are prominent. that is a good example. what do you - sell if they are prominent. that is j a good example. what do you say sell if they are prominent. that is i a good example. what do you say to people when they say she's privatising it because she does not like channel 4 news because every time she goes on to give her a hard time. i time she goes on to give her a hard time. . . ,

time. i get a hard time everywhere i no. it time. i get a hard time everywhere i go- it does — time. i get a hard time everywhere i go- it does not _ time. i get a hard time everywhere i go. it does not even _ time. i get a hard time everywhere i go. it does not even come _ time. i get a hard time everywhere i go. it does not even come into - time. i get a hard time everywhere i go. it does not even come into the i go. it does not even come into the consciousness. this is something which _ consciousness. this is something which has — consciousness. this is something which has been looked at. you do here we regularly _ which has been looked at. you do here we regularly hear— which has been looked at. you do here we regularly hear from - which has been looked at. you do i here we regularly hear from people and conservatives who grumbled about channel 4 news and claiming its left—wing and they argued that they are not but that is a common critique you here. it are not but that is a common critique you here.— critique you here. it is very difficult- — critique you here. it is very difficult. it— critique you here. it is very difficult. it is _ critique you here. it is very difficult. it is not _ critique you here. it is very difficult. it is not an - critique you here. it is very - difficult. it is not an unreasonable iuestion. difficult. it is not an unreasonable question. 1004 _ difficult. it is not an unreasonable question. 1004 does _ difficult. it is not an unreasonable question. 1004 does not - difficult. it is not an unreasonable question. 1004 does not help - difficult. it is not an unreasonable l question. 1004 does not help itself when it's me _ question. 1004 does not help itself when it's me me _ question. 1004 does not help itself when it's me me news _ question. 1004 does not help itself when it's me me news anchor - question. 1004 does not help itself when it's me me news anchor wasl when it's me me news anchor was going _ when it's me me news anchor was going around shouting about the tories _ going around shouting about the tories it— going around shouting about the tories. it does not help itself in that regard but what i will stay is of course — that regard but what i will stay is of course there are a lot of conservative mps who don't like channel — conservative mps who don't like channel for news. some people may argue _ channel for news. some people may argue it _ channel for news. some people may argue it was — channel for news. some people may argue it was incredibly biased but a lot of— argue it was incredibly biased but a lot of conservative mps who would be arguing _ lot of conservative mps who would be arguing for— lot of conservative mps who would be arguing for it not to be sold. that brinis us arguing for it not to be sold. that brings us to _ arguing for it not to be sold. trust

brings us to impartiality. chris is going to be our impartiality in chief in a couple of weeks. give us some hints about how we can do that better from your point of view. first of all, let's establish does the bbc— first of all, let's establish does the bbc have a problem with impartiality? yes it does, you directed — impartiality? yes it does, you directed general, if there was not they would not have been a bison review _ they would not have been a bison review or— they would not have been a bison review or a — they would not have been a bison review or a ten part impartiality plan _ review or a ten part impartiality plan or— review or a ten part impartiality plan or a — review or a ten part impartiality plan or a plan as to how they impartiality plan is to be implemented. yes, it has a problem with impartiality and is it possible for it— with impartiality and is it possible for it to _ with impartiality and is it possible for it to be — with impartiality and is it possible for it to be dealt with? the ten point _ for it to be dealt with? the ten point plan _ for it to be dealt with? the ten point plan is a good start but that will take — point plan is a good start but that will take time to get in. and to work — will take time to get in. and to work |— will take time to get in. and to work. ., , , , ., will take time to get in. and to work. ., ,, , ., work. i approach this with an open mind in terms _ work. i approach this with an open mind in terms of— work. i approach this with an open mind in terms of what _ work. i approach this with an open mind in terms of what specifically | mind in terms of what specifically when you make the suggestion about a

problem with impartiality, are you thinking of particular things where you are watching tv or listening to the radio and you're saying they're not getting that right. if the radio and you're saying they're not getting that right. ii rare the radio and you're saying they're not getting that right.— not getting that right. if we were doini a not getting that right. if we were doing a training _ not getting that right. if we were doing a training course _ not getting that right. if we were doing a training course they - not getting that right. if we were l doing a training course they would show a clip can you give us a version of that. my issue was to do with the school children on the bus and the appointing of that and not just the reporting of that but the length of time it took for the bbc to respond to the issues surrounding that and the length of time it took to respond to the complaint. that's one example thatjumps to mind. articulating the concept of impartiality and i say this out loud as someone about to take on a job which would be hugely scrutinised which would be hugely scrutinised which is that there is a difference between robustly perceiving a line of questioning with a senior politician for instance in the name of trying to work out what a

politician believes the new stuff out is a difference between that and assuming the line of questioning is revealing of that personal point of view. its revealing of that personal point of view. , ., , ., revealing of that personal point of view. , ., ., ., view. its opinion based also so not 'ust the view. its opinion based also so not just the questioning _ view. its opinion based also so not just the questioning it's _ view. its opinion based also so not just the questioning it's the - just the questioning it's the painting which i think sometimes creates that impression. haifa painting which i think sometimes creates that impression.- painting which i think sometimes creates that impression. how do you see a modern _ creates that impression. how do you see a modern conversation - creates that impression. how do you see a modern conversation about. see a modern conversation about funding and all that stuff but in terms of impartiality, what does it look like? . . terms of impartiality, what does it look like? , . ., �* , terms of impartiality, what does it look like? , . ., �*, ., look like? ob'ective and it's more about news — look like? objective and it's more about news reporting _ look like? objective and it's more about news reporting and - look like? objective and it's more i about news reporting and obtaining look like? objective and it's more . about news reporting and obtaining a ithink— about news reporting and obtaining a i think it's _ about news reporting and obtaining a i think it's more about getting back to reporting the then passing opinion— to reporting the then passing opinion on news and i think for me that is— opinion on news and i think for me that is an — opinion on news and i think for me that is an issue but it's your own director— that is an issue but it's your own director general health that has acknowledged this and is addressing this and _ acknowledged this and is addressing this and i_ acknowledged this and is addressing this and i think sometimes... do you

think he is addressing _ this and i think sometimes... do you think he is addressing it _ think he is addressing it successfully?— think he is addressing it successfully? think he is addressing it successfull ? , ., ., , think he is addressing it successfull ? ., , ., successfully? the plan only came out three months — successfully? the plan only came out three months ago _ successfully? the plan only came out three months ago so _ successfully? the plan only came out three months ago so it's _ successfully? the plan only came out three months ago so it's will - successfully? the plan only came out three months ago so it's will take - three months ago so it's will take time _ three months ago so it's will take time to— three months ago so it's will take time to work through. sometimes i wonder— time to work through. sometimes i wonder if— time to work through. sometimes i wonder if it's a culture all organisations develop cultures whether— organisations develop cultures whether it's a cricket club or a broadcasting they develop a culture. i'm broadcasting they develop a culture. i'm not— broadcasting they develop a culture. i'm not sure — broadcasting they develop a culture. i'm not sure if some people say to me the _ i'm not sure if some people say to me the bbc— i'm not sure if some people say to me the bbc is very left—wing, and not sure _ me the bbc is very left—wing, and not sure i— me the bbc is very left—wing, and not sure i think sometimes the bbc thinks _ not sure i think sometimes the bbc thinks it's— not sure i think sometimes the bbc thinks it'sjust right and it has its own— thinks it'sjust right and it has its own opinion that it believes is 'ust its own opinion that it believes is just right — its own opinion that it believes is just right and is not necessarily politically aligned but i think bbc is looking to its own listening and viewing _ is looking to its own listening and viewing figures and looking to the feedback— viewing figures and looking to the feedback it's getting and the complaint it's receiving and coming to its— complaint it's receiving and coming to its own — complaint it's receiving and coming to its own conclusions and thankfully is putting measures in place _ thankfully is putting measures in place to— thankfully is putting measures in place to deal with that. i�*m

thankfully is putting measures in place to deal with that. i'm concept -- conscious _ place to deal with that. i'm concept -- conscious they _ place to deal with that. i'm concept -- conscious they will _ place to deal with that. i'm concept -- conscious they will be _ place to deal with that. i'm concept -- conscious they will be people i place to deal with that. i'm concept| -- conscious they will be people for —— conscious they will be people for human impartiality is the ultimate defining journey and for me that's what it is. people who would say sell baked into the idea of being a british podcast generalist notjust on the bbc by the way for instance. sounds like you are preparing for a job interview. sounds like you are preparing for a job interview-— job interview. they would say it's reasonable _ job interview. they would say it's reasonable to _ job interview. they would say it's reasonable to ask _ job interview. they would say it's reasonable to ask the _ job interview. they would say it's reasonable to ask the question . job interview. they would say it'sl reasonable to ask the question for the book to be held to account because perception is reality. but your critique comes at some of the essential values that motivates thousands of generalists in this country within the bbc and beyond by the way. who would see it as yet another critique coming from a politician trying to —— a profession that they don't understand. thea;r that they don't understand. they ossibl that they don't understand. they possibly could — that they don't understand. they possibly could think— that they don't understand. they possibly could think that but i go back to _ possibly could think that but i go back to the central point that your own organisation has had to bring

out an— own organisation has had to bring out an impartiality plan because it's accepted it has a problem. it's not me _ it's accepted it has a problem. it's not me saying it it's your own organisation.— not me saying it it's your own organisation. the last question about ourselves. _ organisation. the last question about ourselves. the _ organisation. the last question about ourselves. the paper - organisation. the last question l about ourselves. the paper hints organisation. the last question - about ourselves. the paper hints at the review of the licence fee that will come up in the next few years before the next charter. do you have in your heart of hearts an ideal funding model?— in your heart of hearts an ideal funding model? there's so many suggestions _ funding model? there's so many suggestions i — funding model? there's so many suggestions i think. _ funding model? there's so many suggestions i think. i— funding model? there's so many suggestions i think. i will - funding model? there's so many suggestions i think. i will tell- funding model? there's so many| suggestions i think. i will tell you the only— suggestions i think. i will tell you the only thing that sits in my heart on this— the only thing that sits in my heart on this is— the only thing that sits in my heart on this is the fact that 74% of all convictions — on this is the fact that 74% of all convictions for nonpayment and licence — convictions for nonpayment and licence fee are winning. that deity is a thought in my mind. that i think is— is a thought in my mind. that i think is grossly unfair and something that cannot be allowed to continue _ something that cannot be allowed to continue because we know women very often take _ continue because we know women very often take responsibility for household children, bills, names on rent books, — household children, bills, names on rent books, mortgages and if the women _ rent books, mortgages and if the women who are being prosecuted and

that is— women who are being prosecuted and that is something which is the only thing _ that is something which is the only thing if— that is something which is the only thing if you — that is something which is the only thing if you like that i would take into this — thing if you like that i would take into this personally that that is absolutely wrong that three quarters of all convictions are so in terms of all convictions are so in terms of the _ of all convictions are so in terms of the various models we are going to hopefully be announcing very soon the beginning of a review process and that— the beginning of a review process and that charter will take time to -et and that charter will take time to get a _ and that charter will take time to get a new— and that charter will take time to get a new model in place and transferred over but there's so many if you _ transferred over but there's so many if you look— transferred over but there's so many if you look around the world at the way people do this and fund public sector— way people do this and fund public sector and — way people do this and fund public sector and public service broadcasters i think my only criteria _ broadcasters i think my only criteria in— broadcasters i think my only criteria in this would be fairness. fairness— criteria in this would be fairness. fairness would suggest something that not there are lots of suggestions coming forward before we start to review and i'm interested to get this under way to see what those people come up with. consult taxes, one suggestion _ those people come up with. consult taxes, one suggestion we've - those people come up with. consult taxes, one suggestion we've had. i taxes, one suggestion we've had. there's— taxes, one suggestion we've had. there's lots — taxes, one suggestion we've had. there's lots of suggestions coming

forward _ there's lots of suggestions coming forward. i'm interested to see what solution _ forward. i'm interested to see what solution because it's important that the british— solution because it's important that the british broadcasting corporation is a global— the british broadcasting corporation is a global beacon. globally recognised. look at what reporters are doing _ recognised. look at what reporters are doing in — recognised. look at what reporters are doing in ukraine right now. look at the _ are doing in ukraine right now. look at the reporting, it's the best in the world — at the reporting, it's the best in the world. people think she's bashing, _ the world. people think she's bashing, that's not true at all. again — bashing, that's not true at all. again when i licensee model that was designed _ again when i licensee model that was designed in 1945 been implemented, 1946. _ designed in 1945 been implemented, 1946. it _ designed in 1945 been implemented, 1946. it is _ designed in 1945 been implemented, 1946, it is not going to be applicable in 2027.- 1946, it is not going to be applicable in 2027. they online safety bear _ applicable in 2027. they online safety bear which _ applicable in 2027. they online safety bear which is _ applicable in 2027. they online safety bear which is a - applicable in 2027. they online safety bear which is a huge - safety bear which is a huge legislation that just arrived safety bear which is a huge legislation thatjust arrived is revolutionary for how people will be protected online. is there a world where there is the elon musk on twitter which is really free speech and then new uk regulations for

online safety which is going to be strict that those two things can exist at the same time? the safety belt is there _ exist at the same time? the safety belt is there to _ exist at the same time? the safety belt is there to hold _ exist at the same time? the safety belt is there to hold organisations | belt is there to hold organisations and platforms like twitter to its own terms and conditions. the terms and conditions don't say we allow racism, _ and conditions don't say we allow racism, misogyny, abuse, bullying, misinformation, disinformation on our platforms. 0f misinformation, disinformation on our platforms. of course it does not _ our platforms. of course it does not and — our platforms. of course it does not and so _ our platforms. of course it does not. and so what the online safety belt is _ not. and so what the online safety belt is about is ensuring that legally— belt is about is ensuring that legally they abide by those terms and conditions and that's fundamentally the substance of the barrel~ _ fundamentally the substance of the barrel~ so _ fundamentally the substance of the barrel. so online safety belt, elon musk— barrel. so online safety belt, elon musk and — barrel. so online safety belt, elon musk and twitter, what is he going to do? _ musk and twitter, what is he going to do? ready abide by his terms and conditions _ to do? ready abide by his terms and conditions and do what he says or would those terms and conditions and what i _ would those terms and conditions and what i would say is if he changes it though— what i would say is if he changes it though he — what i would say is if he changes it though he does not have to comply me saying _ though he does not have to comply me saying to _ though he does not have to comply me saying to the world we allow racism, bullying, _ saying to the world we allow racism, bullying, hate speech, harmful algorithms, pornography being shown to children _ algorithms, pornography being shown to children and those awful things

on this— to children and those awful things on this platform. we to children and those awful things on this platform.— on this platform. we talked about digital. got _ on this platform. we talked about digital. got to _ on this platform. we talked about digital, got to ask _ on this platform. we talked about digital, got to ask about - on this platform. we talked about digital, got to ask about sports, l digital, got to ask about sports, part of year ministerial remix. we've seen a lot about chelsea in the news. . . we've seen a lot about chelsea in the news. ., , ., , we've seen a lot about chelsea in the news. ., , , m the news. has that been sold yet? do ou or the the news. has that been sold yet? do you or the government _ the news. has that been sold yet? do you or the government has _ the news. has that been sold yet? do you or the government has a - the news. has that been sold yet? do you or the government has a view- the news. has that been sold yet? do you or the government has a view on | you or the government has a view on what's going on there and how long it's taking? what's going on there and how long it's takin. ? , ., ., , ., , what's going on there and how long it's takin. ? , ., .,, .,, , it's taking? chelsea as fast is beini it's taking? chelsea as fast is being sold — it's taking? chelsea as fast is being sold as _ it's taking? chelsea as fast is being sold as you _ it's taking? chelsea as fast is being sold as you know- it's taking? chelsea as fast is being sold as you know and l it's taking? chelsea as fast is l being sold as you know and the sanctions — being sold as you know and the sanctions applied so the sanctions still apply— sanctions applied so the sanctions still apply but what i will say is chelsea — still apply but what i will say is chelsea is very much on borrowed time _ chelsea is very much on borrowed time at _ chelsea is very much on borrowed time at the — chelsea is very much on borrowed time at the moment. there is a short window— time at the moment. there is a short window left _ time at the moment. there is a short window left for that failed to take place _ window left for that failed to take place it— window left for that failed to take lace. . . window left for that failed to take . lace, ., , ., window left for that failed to take lace. .,, ., ., ,, window left for that failed to take lace. ., window left for that failed to take lace, .,, ., ., , , what place. it has to happen soon. what ha--ens place. it has to happen soon. what ha ens if place. it has to happen soon. what happens if the _ place. it has to happen soon. what happens if the window _ place. it has to happen soon. what happens if the window closes? - place. it has to happen soon. what happens if the window closes? i i place. it has to happen soon. what| happens if the window closes? i will not iioin happens if the window closes? i will not going to — happens if the window closes? i will not going to go _ happens if the window closes? i will not going to go into _ happens if the window closes? i will not going to go into those conversations but i think it's enough _ conversations but i think it's enough for me to say there's a short day and _ enough for me to say there's a short day and the — enough for me to say there's a short day and the club has to be sold

soon~ _ day and the club has to be sold soon in — day and the club has to be sold soon. ~' . soon. in the next few weeks? so before the _ soon. in the next few weeks? so before the end _ soon. in the next few weeks? so before the end of _ soon. in the next few weeks? so before the end of may? - soon. in the next few weeks? so before the end of may? chelsea | soon. in the next few weeks? so i before the end of may? chelsea is ve much before the end of may? chelsea is very much on _ before the end of may? chelsea is very much on borrowed _ before the end of may? chelsea is very much on borrowed time. i before the end of may? chelsea is i very much on borrowed time. that's a very much on borrowed time. that's a very diplomatic _ very much on borrowed time. that's a very diplomatic phrase. _ very much on borrowed time. that's a very diplomatic phrase. it _ very much on borrowed time. that's a very diplomatic phrase. it boris i very diplomatic phrase. it boris johnson on borrowed time? idat very diplomatic phrase. it boris johnson on borrowed time? not in the sliihtest. johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest- he's — johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest. he's not _ johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest. he's not done _ johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest. he's not done at _ johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest. he's not done at all. - johnson on borrowed time? not in the slightest. he's not done at all. i i slightest. he's not done at all. i am slightly irritated today about the fact — am slightly irritated today about the fact that the prime minister when _ the fact that the prime minister when this— the fact that the prime minister when this party gets stuff that davis came out i did not see a _ stuff that davis came out i did not see a cake,... i know that did not happen — see a cake,... i know that did not happen so — see a cake,... i know that did not ha . en. see a cake,... i know that did not hauen. ,. ,, .,

happen. so he discussed it at cabinet? when _ happen. so he discussed it at cabinet? when you _ happen. so he discussed it at cabinet? when you say i happen. so he discussed it at cabinet? when you say it i happen. so he discussed it at i cabinet? when you say it came out happen. so he discussed it at - cabinet? when you say it came out it came out in — cabinet? when you say it came out it came out in june _ cabinet? when you say it came out it came out in june nine. we _ cabinet? when you say it came out it came out in june nine. we briefed i came out injune nine. we briefed it. came out injune nine. we briefed it~ darran— came out injune nine. we briefed it. darren police, keir starmer attends— it. darren police, keir starmer attends a _ it. darren police, keir starmer attends a prearranged social event with alcohol and food and be found he's not _ with alcohol and food and be found he's not broken any of the regulations and the thing that's bothering me is the regulation should — bothering me is the regulation should be interpreted by any police force in_ should be interpreted by any police force in the same way and the prime minister— force in the same way and the prime minister apologised a number of times— minister apologised a number of times humbly at dispatch box and he put himself forward and took the pain _ put himself forward and took the pain he — put himself forward and took the pain. he seems to be holding the prime _ pain. he seems to be holding the prime minister to a different set of standards — prime minister to a different set of standards. and that's the problem is should he _ standards. and that's the problem is should he have been? iwould standards. and that's the problem is should he have been? i would say yes _

should he have been? i would say es. , ., ., ., ., yes. they have operational independence. _ yes. they have operational independence. we - yes. they have operational independence. we would i yes. they have operational i independence. we would have yes. they have operational - independence. we would have seen that yes it was one set of regulations and to police forces entirely differently and both events should be held to the same standards of investigation and as you will see the mp has written and asked police to reopen this. the mp has written and asked police to reopen this-— to reopen this. labour would say if the were to reopen this. labour would say if they were here _ to reopen this. labour would say if they were here that _ to reopen this. labour would say if they were here that he _ to reopen this. labour would say if they were here that he was - to reopen this. labour would say if| they were here that he was working and he had a beer. it they were here that he was working and he had a beer.— and he had a beer. it was a prearranged _ and he had a beer. it was a prearranged social- and he had a beer. it was a prearranged social event. i and he had a beer. it was a l prearranged social event. we and he had a beer. it was a - prearranged social event. we talked about before — prearranged social event. we talked about before and _ prearranged social event. we talked about before and never _ prearranged social event. we talked about before and never watched i about before and never watched friends not because i got anything against that i never got around to it. ., , ., ., , it. could you tell him what friends is. he it. could you tell him what friends is- he does _ it. could you tell him what friends is. he does not _ it. could you tell him what friends is. he does not know— it. could you tell him what friends is. he does not know what - it. could you tell him what friends is. he does not know what it is. l is. he does not know what it is. have you never seen it? are there things that you say i

can't stand that and turn it off or things that get turned —— talked about a lot? i things that get turned -- talked about a lot?— about a lot? i became a health minister and health _ about a lot? i became a health minister and health just - about a lot? i became a health minister and health just as i minister and health just as the pandemic— minister and health just as the pandemic started so i have to say i watched _ pandemic started so i have to say i watched very little television and then i_ watched very little television and then i was promoted to secretary of state _ then i was promoted to secretary of state and _ then i was promoted to secretary of state and i— then i was promoted to secretary of state and i watched very little television except last week i watched first states on channel 4 and the _ watched first states on channel 4 and the first day to a somebody who worked in _ and the first day to a somebody who worked in one of my sectors in the gaming _ worked in one of my sectors in the gaming industry and the date they set him _ gaming industry and the date they set him up with was someone in the gaming _ set him up with was someone in the gaming industry. i loved first states — gaming industry. i loved first states. ., �*, states. back to netflix. there's alwa s a states. back to netflix. there's always a gripe _ states. back to netflix. there's always a gripe when _ states. back to netflix. there's always a gripe when the - states. back to netflix. there's always a gripe when the bbc. states. back to netflix. there's i always a gripe when the bbc makes a political drummer —— drama it in it in for it political drummer —— drama it in it infor it —— political drummer —— drama it in it in for it —— interesting that netflix made a drama? the in for it -- interesting that netflix made a drama? the bbc do it

more often- — netflix made a drama? the bbc do it more often. didn't _ netflix made a drama? the bbc do it more often. didn't you _ netflix made a drama? the bbc do it more often. didn't you call— netflix made a drama? the bbc do it more often. didn't you call your. .. i thank you very much. that's all from us. we'll be back next week. bye. hello. i think today's sunny skies that weather system will bring rain. south across the uk. increasing cloud from that system overnight is going to keep frost at bay and clear

skies for scotland and england and wales will allow for a patchy frost and some of the cold frost will be below freezing as a start up on saturday but with plenty of morning sunshine. here comes the rain into northern and western scotland across the west of scotland into the afternoon and it's raining in parts of northwest england and north wales for the rest of england and wales a sunny start still in east anglia in the south—east with some warm sunny spells and a warm day compared with today cooler for scotland and windy as well rain pushing across northern england and wales as we go for saturday evening and outbreaks of rain in parts of england and wales and on sunday before a cloud bank holiday.

tonight at ten, the conservative mp neil parish is suspended from the parliamentary party, accused of watching pornography in the commons chamber. the 65—year—old says it was a mistake, and he'll fully cooperate with any investigation. of course it's embarrassing, and it's embarrassing for my wife and family and so that's my main concern at the moment. mr parish now faces two separate inquiries. also tonight... the three—time wimbledon champion boris becker begins a two—and—a—half year prison sentence for hiding millions in assets after going bankrupt. an aid organisation says two british volunteers in ukraine have been seized by the russian military.