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football, well, it has got even worse for city and extra time because karim benzema slotted away a penalty, it is 6—5 on aggregate to madrid, city have a few minutes left to score to try to take this to penalties. they have never won this trophy and liverpool lie in wait in the final. thank you for the last minute news, natalie pirks in madrid. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. this is bbc news. the headlines — ukrainian officials say russian
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forces have launched an all—out assault on the steelworks which is the last ukrainian holdout in mariupol. at least 300 ukrainian civilians are thought to remain trapped. hungary has rejected a proposed eu—wide ban on imports of russian oil put forward by the european commission. it requires the approval of all member states to be adopted. the us central bank, the federal reserve, has raised interest rates by half a percentage point, the most aggressive such increase in more than 20 years. the move is intended to tackle rapidly rising prices. amber heard has taken the stand at the defamation trial brought by ex—husband jonny depp, describing how she first fell in love with him. but later in her testimony, she said mr depp had repeatedly slapped her. he denies the allegations. hello, and welcome to our look ahead
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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sienna rodgers, senior writer at politcshome�*s the house magazine, and anna mikhailova, who's deputy political editor at the mail on sunday. welcome to you both. nice to see you again. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro leads with the sale of the shirt worn by diego maradona when he scored the infamous hand of god goal. it went forjust over £7 million. the main story in the ft is the half—point rise in interest rates announced in america, the biggest rise for 22 years. and it is warning of more to come. the bank of england will announce its decision on interest rates in the uk midday tomorrow. the independent previews the local elections, saying the conservatives are worried
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supporters may not turn out to vote. the guardian has a similar story, claiming some tory candidates are calling themselves "local conservatives" to distance themselves from partygate and other national issues. the daily melt sees a claim from the tri— minister saying that the plaintiffs it is on slickers to rwanda could be a risk and he blames lawyers. for the second day running, the telegraph leads with concerns over what france knew about the use of exocet missiles which killed british soldiers in the falklands war. so, let's begin. let's start if we can with the guardian front page story. a good tale, this. in it since it is not a new tail because the use of local conservatives has been done before. that's right. according to this story which i did not realise but maybe i've just forgotten from the
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time, apparently the conservatives central office register of this local conservatives as an alternative title in early 2019 when theresa may was incredibly unpopular. so it was a tactic that has been used before, and we are seeing with these local elections that are obvious as place tomorrow across the country that they are going to be used again because people, counsellors and council candidates across the country are just very worried when they are from the conservative banner that all the stories about party gate but also probably the stuff about cost—of—living crisis and whether the treasury and number ten have actually done enough in order to mitigate the impact of that for people, especially in terms of energy bills, etc. they are very worried about the kind of impact thatis worried about the kind of impact that is going to have. i think the kind of a story that we are looking at here with these local elections is really low turnout and that is
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something that tory election analyst robert haywood has talked about today. he sort of said it seems as if it's going to be hard pushed to actually get to 30% in terms of turnout and they will be kind of a plague on all your house as we see if that's the case because lara could make some significant gains. but that is quite interesting and obviously candidates branding themselves as uber local in order to make up for particularly the conservative party pop of the national reputation is very interesting. it national reputation is very interesting.— national reputation is very interestinu. . . i, ., interesting. it certainly is that. what do you — interesting. it certainly is that. what do you make _ interesting. it certainly is that. what do you make of - interesting. it certainly is that. what do you make of this - interesting. it certainly is that. | what do you make of this story in particular the quite interesting point they have from the conservatives at hartlepool who are apparently telling their voters please don't punish local conservatives for the mistakes made it westminster. we are local and proud of where we live.— it westminster. we are local and proud of where we live. that's right it is a big problem _ proud of where we live. that's right it is a big problem for _ it is a big problem for conservatives. obviously mps looking at that _ conservatives. obviously mps looking at that and _
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conservatives. obviously mps looking at that and since it that boris johnson, _ at that and since it that boris johnson, who is not present in a lot of the _ johnson, who is not present in a lot of the leafleting and a lot of the campaigning material, someone will look at _ campaigning material, someone will took at this— campaigning material, someone will look at this and think it is he the right leader for the next general election? — right leader for the next general election? obviously we are expecting the results _ election? obviously we are expecting the results to come through this week, _ the results to come through this week, initially afterthat the results to come through this week, initially after that for the party— week, initially after that for the party to— week, initially after that for the party to try and see if the anti—abortion elth make a move. there _ anti—abortion elth make a move. there will— anti—abortion elth make a move. there will be a sorta big moment potentially this week that we might see people like jeremy hunt, other leadership candidates start to do a bit more _ leadership candidates start to do a bit more behind—the—scenes to gatvanise — bit more behind—the—scenes to galvanise support because if there is a sense — galvanise support because if there is a sense that borisjohnson galvanise support because if there is a sense that boris johnson as leader— is a sense that boris johnson as leader in— is a sense that boris johnson as leader in the current government are not particularly helping electorally, then you will start to see support to whittle away. i see support to whittle away. wonder see support to whittle away. i wonder what both of your sins is on this. anna, you first and then we
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will go to siena but there is always a bit about how much local council elections tell you about the national parties. often the parties will say it's almost two things at onceisit will say it's almost two things at once is it wanted to be about local issues, very important about what is deciding locally but actually they are reading the room for anything it tells them about the prospects for the next general election. what is yoursense the next general election. what is your sense of it?— the next general election. what is your sense of it? there is typically in the midterm, _ your sense of it? there is typically in the midterm, a _ your sense of it? there is typically in the midterm, a big _ your sense of it? there is typically in the midterm, a big local- in the midterm, a big local election, it is seen as a chance rehook— election, it is seen as a chance rebook to get the government of the day kicking. so all of that will be priced in — day kicking. so all of that will be priced in and the it's analysed. and i think— priced in and the it's analysed. and i think there — priced in and the it's analysed. and i think there is obviously a huge effort _ i think there is obviously a huge effort and — i think there is obviously a huge effort and expectation management for the _ effort and expectation management for the conservative party and a lot of talk _ for the conservative party and a lot of talk in _ for the conservative party and a lot of talk in recent weeks about just how marry— of talk in recent weeks about just how many seats they are going to lose _ how many seats they are going to lose all— how many seats they are going to lose all of— how many seats they are going to lose. all of which is designed to if the diet— lose. all of which is designed to if the diet does not go that well, they can say— the diet does not go that well, they can say it _ the diet does not go that well, they can say it did not go as well as it could _ can say it did not go as well as it could have — can say it did not go as well as it could have gone. so i think people do tend to — could have gone. so i think people do tend to vote on local issues but this idea _
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do tend to vote on local issues but this idea that what the guardian story picks up on a little bit is that— story picks up on a little bit is that even— story picks up on a little bit is that even candidates are trying to really _ that even candidates are trying to really distance himself from the iocai— really distance himself from the local or— really distance himself from the local or central party, that is an interesting _ local or central party, that is an interesting and worrying trend for the conservatives.— the conservatives. what is your sense of that _ the conservatives. what is your sense of that on _ the conservatives. what is your sense of that on this _ the conservatives. what is your sense of that on this question | the conservatives. what is your| sense of that on this question of the balance between local and national was meant when you were a labour list, or local elections seen as important as any measure really of labour's national performance are not? , ., ., ., ., , not? they are not a reliable indicator— not? they are not a reliable indicator because _ not? they are not a reliable indicator because back- not? they are not a reliable indicator because back in i not? they are not a reliable i indicator because back in 2017, labour did incredibly badly under jeremy corbyn at local elections and they went on to obviously still defeated but kind of had a good lot if a good thing as possible... timer;r if a good thing as possible... they cost their conservatives _ if a good thing as possible... they cost their conservatives the punditry majority.— punditry majority. exactly, subsequently. _ punditry majority. exactly, subsequently. so - punditry majority. exactly, subsequently. so it - punditry majority. exactly, subsequently. so it is - punditry majority. exactly, subsequently. so it is not| punditry majority. exactly, | subsequently. so it is not a reliable indicator but it does point to long—term trends that is what i will look at with the results of the over the weekend. are we looking at
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where art labour and the tories doing well and doing badly, not so much of the kind of net gain or loss of seats because it does not tell you all that much, especially if it was a very high water mark filler because the last time the seats were contested was 2018 and labour actually did very well. so it's really about what is the red wall doing at the moment, is labour making any progress they are? is lara going to become the second—largest party is colour because that would be quite cheering? indicate that maybe a general election, they could start getting some of the scottish sheets back. and is the so—called blue water to many conservatives hate that description, but is that troubling and going to the liberal democrats in the green party? of the making gains in those areas which could make tory mps nervous? i should imagine the two punditry by elections coming up in wakefield and chivington, 18 labour into receipt and when a liberal democrat and
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teresa will be especially fascinating. i want to look at the front of the ft with a top story listed by photograph of military vehicles on fire by the look of it and is the result of air strikes on an oil depot in an area east of donetsk for eu says it is going to phase out the use of russian oil in a proposal by the european commission but it looks like it's already dead in the water tonight. obviously cues criticism of the eu and particularly germany for its siowness — and particularly germany for its slowness and reluctance to strip its dependence of russian oil so this is going _ dependence of russian oil so this is going to _ dependence of russian oil so this is going to continue to exacerbate the problem _ going to continue to exacerbate the problem as seen as by uk politicians and increase the criticism of the eu side~ _ and increase the criticism of the eu side. , ., , ., side. there will be lots of... hun . side. there will be lots of... hungry is — side. there will be lots of... hungry is being _ side. there will be lots of... hungry is being treated - side. there will be lots of... hungry is being treated as l side. there will be lots of... hungry is being treated as aj side. there will be lots of... - hungry is being treated as a villain
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along with the lucky about is saying it is the one will veto it but slovakia is totally dependent on russian oil but in a sense they are being asked to take the punishment for people who say it's unsure how much difference it will actually make to the work currently being fought. g make to the work currently being fou:ht. �* ., ., make to the work currently being fou:ht. . ., ., , make to the work currently being fou:ht. �* ., ., , , make to the work currently being fou:ht. . ., ., , , ., fought. a lot of these things are really about _ fought. a lot of these things are really about the _ fought. a lot of these things are really about the kind _ fought. a lot of these things are really about the kind of - fought. a lot of these things are l really about the kind of long-term really about the kind of long—term repositioning of where resources lie, to what extent european countries are rely on russia for their energy and for other things. these are kind of long—term projects, and the eu has proposed this very, very tough measure, a total ban on imports and sanctions on war crimes, so really tough things coming out here and hungry has rejected the proposal as just not a suitable while the czech republic is walking government so they will a tradition period which is obviously more accommodating. but it's very understandable that this
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war has prompted all these kind of concerns which were of course pre—existing but it will be able up to actually we need to start doing stuff about this and we need to become more self—reliant in europe. and reallyjust dive away from this reliance on russia, especially for oil. so thankfully it's not or has not been as big a discussion in the uk, but for some of those european countries as anna was say, germany in particular, is a huge thing, but it will take time to kind of transition away and that is understandable.— transition away and that is understandable. fl ., ., ., understandable. let's move on to the teleu-rah understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story _ understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story which _ understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story which is _ understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story which is the - understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story which is the news - understandable. let's move on to the telegraph story which is the news in i telegraph story which is the news in brief at the bottom but more insight into the paper but mps hitting back at the vice chancellor of cambridge. what is even saying? yes. at the vice chancellor of cambridge. what is even saying?— what is even saying? yes, so the vice chancellor _ what is even saying? yes, so the vice chancellor of _ what is even saying? yes, so the vice chancellor of cambridge - vice chancellor of cambridge university has been criticised
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because _ university has been criticised because he complained that substituting more grammar school students _ substituting more grammar school students for students from independent schools would not accomplish what the dissipation goais~ _ accomplish what the dissipation goais~ so — accomplish what the dissipation goals. so basically he is saying you are going _ goals. so basically he is saying you are going to decrease the number of students _ are going to decrease the number of students from private schools or actually — students from private schools or actually going to replace them with students _ actually going to replace them with students from grammar schools and that is— students from grammar schools and that is not _ students from grammar schools and that is not really widening dissipation and diversity in the way that you _ dissipation and diversity in the way that you think. now it's been reported _ that you think. now it's been reported by the telegraph that leading — reported by the telegraph that leading universities have been warned — leading universities have been warned about this, but that school heads _ warned about this, but that school heads in _ warned about this, but that school heads in campaigners and senior mps all heads in campaigners and senior mps aii criticise _ heads in campaigners and senior mps all criticise the comment. i think a lot of— all criticise the comment. i think a lot of the — all criticise the comment. i think a lot of the time we talk about oxbridge and their dissipation in the cow— oxbridge and their dissipation in the cow people i get but really we need _ the cow people i get but really we need to— the cow people i get but really we need to be talking about schools. it starts much earlier in the chain, so i starts much earlier in the chain, so iwouid _ starts much earlier in the chain, so iwouid much — starts much earlier in the chain, so i would much rather be having a conversation about what we are going to do about the very different
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levels — to do about the very different levels of _ to do about the very different levels of schooling and equality of schools _ levels of schooling and equality of schools around the country. and whether— schools around the country. and whether they are private or staying and i_ whether they are private or staying and i think— whether they are private or staying and i think that's conversation he need _ and i think that's conversation he need to— and i think that's conversation he need to he — and i think that's conversation he need to be having rather than always this oxbridge conversation. interesting any particular because of who he is, he is actually a canadian who came here from the canadian who came here from the canadian system, a canadian legal academic who was vice chancellor i think at the university of british columbia, or president as they come up columbia, or president as they come up there, and then he came to cambridge in 2017 set up an outsider perspective. he cambridge in 2017 set up an outsider --ersective. ., , ., ., cambridge in 2017 set up an outsider perspective-— perspective. he does, and one thing for example — perspective. he does, and one thing for example in the _ perspective. he does, and one thing for example in the american - perspective. he does, and one thing for example in the american system j for example in the american system as i understand it that's quite interesting is a lot of applications are initially blind, so there is a bit are initially blind, so there is a hit of— are initially blind, so there is a bit of it sometimes it canjust be done _ bit of it sometimes it canjust be done on — bit of it sometimes it canjust be done on purely interest exam and
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entrance — done on purely interest exam and entrance criteria and i think something that the oxford and cambridge have begun doing more in recent— cambridge have begun doing more in recent years is to try and slightly gives— recent years is to try and slightly gives summer school teaching to pupils— gives summer school teaching to pupils to — gives summer school teaching to pupils to try and essentially bridge the gap _ pupils to try and essentially bridge the gap of the advantage of a lot of private schools give their kids, essentially people who know the system — essentially people who know the system inside out and can pretty much _ system inside out and can pretty much coached them on to help to get through the _ much coached them on to help to get through the interviews i had to get through the interviews i had to get through the exams. sol through the interviews i had to get through the exams. so i think we need _ through the exams. so i think we need a _ through the exams. so i think we need a lot— through the exams. so i think we need a lot more and i think what sienna _ need a lot more and i think what sienna says _ need a lot more and i think what sienna says is correct that there needs— sienna says is correct that there needs to — sienna says is correct that there needs to be focus on the actual scores — needs to be focus on the actual scores themselves and the whole system _ scores themselves and the whole system but equally encouraging universities to try and perhaps take a proactive — universities to try and perhaps take a proactive approach and help students _ a proactive approach and help students who have not had an advantage that a lot of private school — advantage that a lot of private school kids have had. to level the playing _ school kids have had. to level the playing field is also good. the
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