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good evening, and welcome back to our special bbc election coverage. most of the results are in. but there are still some crucial ones to come. labour have won the local elections in england. it has taken key councils like westminster, wandsworth and southampton. although sir kier starmer�*s celebrations were rather marred when durham police announced it would — after all — investigate whether he broke lockdown rules last year. borisjohnson admitted his party had a �*tough night�* — losing overall control of councils like west oxfordshire and worcester. and the losses really begun to mount during the day. the greens are doing very well. and sir ed davey�*s liberal democrats have gained more seats than any other party in england.
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they're now in overall control of kingston upon hull and somerset. there were some very happy faces in glasgow — where snp supporters celebrated winning the local elections in scotland — ahead of labour, who pushed the tories into third place. results are still coming in in wales, with the conservatives suffering significant losses in denbighshire. but perhaps the most significant result today will come in northern ireland — where my colleague annita mcvey is watching events unfold. asked, still a way to go here, but it does look as paul's suggestion, sinn fein will it does look as paul's suggestion, sinn fein will emer-e it does look as paul's suggestion, sinn fein will emer-e as it does look as paul's suggestion, sinn fein will emer-e as the it does look as paul's suggestion, sinn fein will emer-e as the bin est sinn fein will emerge as the biggest party in northern ireland for the first time. as i say, still quite a lot of count to go, but the leader of sinn fein is calling this the election of a generation. i will be talking to her in a few minutes. many thanks. rita check her body
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keeping track of the latest details there. , still awake, still alert, we will be is shedding light on that key political point for us. the ones that are left, and we will be joined by seasoned political commentators to discuss the results on the party leaders. —— reeta chakrabarti. i will introduce them correctly in a moment. join us for the voters verdict in election day on the bbc. yes, indeed, warm welcome back to the bbc�*s election studio here at
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new broadcasting house in london. we've been on air virtually since 11:16pm last night? overnight, lots of those english results coming in. suggesting a bit of a tricky night for borisjohnson as it started. it's become more tricky as the night and day has gone on. for labour, i met rather mixed set of results, it's fair to say, some salivating to do for the lib dems, the greens as well, keeping tabs on all of that, the latest results in wales and scotland, crucially in northern ireland, where it is all about the makeup of a new assembly at stormont and who might need first minister of the? we already know that history has been made because sinn fein has topped the poll therefore the first time, pushing the unionists and second place. it's already a very significant contest in so many ways. but we will need to discuss, really,
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how that might unfold in the days and weeks ahead, so plenty of time to do that. we will be doing that in the company ofjohn curtis and other guests, my special guest here in the studio who i will talk about in just a moment. so stay with us for that. i want to take a quick break for the news with sean. good evening to you and those at home. the prime ministers as it's been a tough election for the conservatives as the party last hundreds of seats, labour took some of the torres flagship councils in london but made few significant gains elsewhere. in scotland, the snp has once again finished as the largest party, labour has come second, the conservatives suffered heavy losses. here is laura kunz beck, whose report contains flashing images. ok, this is going well.
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trademark optimism, despite shedding councils and losing nearly 400 counsellors too. from the safety of a primary school classroom in his constituency, the prime minister didn't seem downcast. that's a very good, that blue there. he lost iconic london councils, giving away comfortable conservative ground. and what are we going to have when we have _ and what are we going to have when we have the — and what are we going to have when we have the party? yet anger at downing street parties and his fine for breaking the law... there you go. ..did not translate to the catastrophe some conservatives had feared. its mid—term and it's certainly a mixed set of results. and we've had a tough night in some parts of the country, but on the other hand, in other parts of the country, you'll still seeing conservatives going forward and making quite remarkable gains in places that haven't voted conservative for a long time or if ever. not in london, where his labour rival had big reasons to smile. winning over territory held
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by the tories for decades. we've just done it! westminster! wandsworth! steps forward, but outside london, perhaps not the big bold strides labour needs. this is a massive turning point for the labour party. from the depths of 2019, we are back on track now for the general election, showing the hard change we've done in the last two years, what a difference it has made. have you heard from - durham police, sir kier? any comment on the police investigation? but as he travelled to celebrate success elsewhere, allegations over and chased the labour leader. durham police will now investigate claims keir starmer broke the rules, having beer and curry with colleagues during lockdown. anything to say about the investigation? - have you heard from durham police? he's always said nothing went wrong, but they are questions keir starmer will have to answer. voters response to the lib dems was warm in many places,
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grabbing seats from labour in the northern city of hull, from the tories in kent's tunbridge wells, somerset and pockets of affluent london. the message to the tories from some green suburbs will cause tory nerves. they are saying they've had enough of this prime minister. and i think the tectonic plates of british politics are shifting. now it's up to conservative mps to shove the prime minister into the abyss. remember, your votes stitch together a giant patchwork. not a picture that's the same in every corner of the country. cheering. there was a striking labour success in london. that will hurt the tories, who broadly fell back further in the south than in the north of england.
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their coalition fraying more at its traditional end. but labour's jubilation in the capital wasn't always matched by enthusiasm elsewhere. the greens picking up pace too, with dozens of gains. but while results in england perhaps confirmed much of the status quo, the scene is set for a genuine moment of change in northern ireland. applause. look at this, for the first time, voters seem poised to make sinn fein the biggest party. that would be a moment of history and a moment of challenge and uncertainty for the uk. i'm very grateful for all of those people who came out and engaged in what was a very positive campaign. leaders whose dream is leaving the union for a united ireland would be in charge. that could also shift the political conversation in scotland, where the snp, who also want to leave the uk, continue their years of dominance. crucially, labour moved
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up into second place. the scottish tories in a slump. and grew in wales too, the biggest party profiting at the expense of the tories. yet spin back a few weeks, many tories there feared a complete calamity. they've had a terrible time in some parts of the country, but this hasn't been a wipe—out. and labour has moved forward but not far or fast enough to be sure of power. remember, these elections give us clues not concrete convictions of what's coming next, but it seems the two big parties are somehow locked in an uncomfortable status quo. that is very good. no dramatic breakthrough for his main rival, no total breakdown for the conservatives. borisjohnson has taken knocks today, but still stands to carry on. laura kuenssberg, bbc news.
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police in durham are investigating whether— police in durham are investigating whether the — police in durham are investigating whether the labour— police in durham are investigating whether the labour leader, - police in durham are investigating whether the labour leader, sir- police in durham are investigatingl whether the labour leader, sir cara starmer, _ whether the labour leader, sir cara starmer, broke— whether the labour leader, sir cara starmer, broke lockdown - whether the labour leader, sir cara starmer, broke lockdown rules- whether the labour leader, sir cara starmer, broke lockdown rules onl whether the labour leader, sir cara| starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during — starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during which _ starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during which he _ starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during which he drank- starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during which he drank beer- starmer, broke lockdown rules on a visit during which he drank beer in i visit during which he drank beer in mp's_ visit during which he drank beer in mp's office — visit during which he drank beer in mp's office. the _ visit during which he drank beer in mp's office. the force _ visit during which he drank beer in mp's office. the force initially- mp's office. the force initially decided — mp's office. the force initially decided that— mp's office. the force initially decided that no _ mp's office. the force initially decided that no offence - mp's office. the force initially. decided that no offence occurred mp's office. the force initially- decided that no offence occurred of decided that no offence occurred gt april decided that no offence occurred april last year but said it had since received significant new information. here is what the labour leader had to say and reacting to the news this evening. this leader had to say and reacting to the news this evening.— the news this evening. as i've exptained _ the news this evening. as i've exptained a — the news this evening. as i've explained a number _ the news this evening. as i've explained a number of - the news this evening. as i've explained a number of times, | the news this evening. as i've i explained a number of times, we the news this evening. as i've - explained a number of times, we were working in the office, we stopped for something to eat, no party, no breach of the rules, the police have obviously got theirjob to do, we will let them get on with it, but i am confident that no rules are broken, meanwhile, get set up results today. the broken, meanwhile, get set up results today.— broken, meanwhile, get set up results toda . ,, ., , results today. the snp has emerged as the winner _ results today. the snp has emerged as the winner of _ results today. the snp has emerged as the winner of elections _ results today. the snp has emerged as the winner of elections in - as the winner of elections in scotland, labour overtaken the conservatives, the second—largest party for the first time in six years. with all results now declared, the snp has gained 23 seats labour has added 19, the conservatives lost 62 affairs. in wales, labour made gains while the
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conservatives suffered significant losses. the latest results show labour has gained 50 feet and now control six of the welsh councils. if you want to find out the results in your part of the uk, but had to the bbc news website, or the bbc news app, and to your postcode, you also find lots of election analysis on the latest reports from our still monitoring counts around the country. those are the made headlines, now back to election 2022. well, welcome back once again, i want to say proper welcome to my guests. nice to see you both. what i want to do first if you can bear with us is to get the latest on what's happening in northern ireland, then we will come back and
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talk a bit about that, then maybe the picture across the uk as well. you're both very welcome. looking at the parties in the northern ireland assembly, we are still talking about work in progress here, with sinn fein and 29% of those first preference votes, the dp and second place lands in third place, they unionists in fourth place on ii%, the stl p 9%, a bit of a bump up for the traditional unionist voice on 8%. 5% up from last time. if we look at the seats themselves, they are 90 seats, 26 of them declared, so as i was saying, it's taking a while to get through them, in fact we may not get through them, in fact we may not get through them all, i will have a word about that in a second, so far, the alliance on three, the unionists on three, the dpn to, and the stl p on three, the dpn to, and the stl p on one, the independents on one.
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this is in from the electoral office from northern ireland. i'd like to show you this so that you can see what kind of timings we are talking about, watching the transfer of votes at this stage and pass those off on being small. it is likely that we will move into a second day at all venues, yes? update in a few hours. well, ithink at all venues, yes? update in a few hours. well, i think we can take it for granted, then, given that very strong hint that we are going to be going into tomorrow in terms of the account in northern ireland. so, with that in mind, let'sjoin account in northern ireland. so, with that in mind, let's join anita, i guessed with her, then we will talk a little bit more about the undeveloped —— about the developments. what's the latest? thank you very much. still a long way to go, on 26 of the 90 seats here declared so far, and as you were mentioning, the counts of the three centres around northern ireland including here in belfast going into a second day, although
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the original plan had been to try to get everything wrapped up today. well, of course, one of the big stories that we've been talking about in this election campaign and the polls have suggested is that sinn fein, the nationalist party that would like to see a united ireland would emerge as the biggest party in northern ireland and certainly according to what we are seeing, the percentage of votes first preference votes and all the indication so far that they will indeed emerge as the biggest party. with me now, i have the leader of sinn fein, mary lou mcdonald. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news today. a lot of people have talked about this prospect of sinn fein being the largest party in the northern ireland assembly as being hugely symbolic. you have called that the election of a generation, but is it more than symbolic? it is. not least because _ but is it more than symbolic? it is. not least because this _ but is it more than symbolic? it is. not least because this election has been very— not least because this election has been very much about change, yes, it's about _ been very much about change, yes, it's about delivery in the here and now, _ it's about delivery in the here and now. the — it's about delivery in the here and now, the cost of living crisis, we have issues _ now, the cost of living crisis, we have issues with our health service and so _ have issues with our health service and so on. — have issues with our health service and so on, but there is a real
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appetite _ and so on, but there is a real appetite for partnership politics, for progress, for advancement, and working _ for progress, for advancement, and working together in that regard, you know, _ working together in that regard, you know. your — working together in that regard, you know, your viewers should remember that this _ know, your viewers should remember that this is _ know, your viewers should remember that this is a — know, your viewers should remember that this is a place in the north of ireland that was designed specifically to copper fasten a unionist— specifically to copper fasten a unionist majority in perpetuity. the majority _ unionist majority in perpetuity. the majority is — unionist majority in perpetuity. the majority is gone now for a number of elections. _ majority is gone now for a number of elections, and now on the cusp of the first— elections, and now on the cusp of the first time i nationalist are republican leading the executive in the north— republican leading the executive in the north is hugely significant and it's more — the north is hugely significant and it's more than symbolism it's a veited — it's more than symbolism it's a veiled message about equality, it says to _ veiled message about equality, it says to the world, there is nojob, there _ says to the world, there is nojob, there is— says to the world, there is nojob, there is no— says to the world, there is nojob, there is no role that is off—limits for anyone _ there is no role that is off—limits foranyone. i there is no role that is off—limits for anyone. i think that's a hugely, hugely— for anyone. i think that's a hugely, hugely significant moment. the dp can if they did _ hugely significant moment. the dp can if they did indeed _ hugely significant moment. the dp can if they did indeed emerge - hugely significant moment. the dp can if they did indeed emerge as i hugely significant moment. the dp. can if they did indeed emerge as the second party committee have consistently not answer that question. what they nominate to the position of deputy first minister? what is a message for the dp? i
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what is a message for the dp? i think that is hugely disappointing, in fact. _ think that is hugely disappointing, in fact, those that call themselves democrats have to respect the view of the _ democrats have to respect the view of the people, you know, the boats have been— of the people, you know, the boats have been cast, the votes are now being _ have been cast, the votes are now being counted, and for a long time, we served _ being counted, and for a long time, we served along with our dp colleagues in that shared office in the deputy position, and now it is very. _ the deputy position, and now it is very. very— the deputy position, and now it is very, very important that the dup send _ very, very important that the dup send a _ very, very important that the dup send a message that they are up for power—sharing and that they will meet _ power—sharing and that they will meet us — power—sharing and that they will meet us with the quality and meet us with respect. that is the challenge forjeffrey— with respect. that is the challenge forjeffrey donaldson and his party. he said _ forjeffrey donaldson and his party. he said that he will be there on day one after this election, but i suppose my question for all of the politicians is what does ai need that neck mean? does mean they when it back to work in true meaning of the word? because we have had so much dysfunction in politics the air where the executive hasn't been functioning, so how on earth are you going to break that lodge? let functioning, so how on earth are you going to break that lodge?— going to break that lodge? let me tell you. day _ going to break that lodge? let me tell you. day one _ going to break that lodge? let me tell you, day one means _ going to break that lodge? let me
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tell you, day one means that - going to break that lodge? let me i tell you, day one means that we get around _ tell you, day one means that we get around the — tell you, day one means that we get around the table, we nominate the first deputy first minister that we ensure _ first deputy first minister that we ensure that we have a three year budget— ensure that we have a three year budget and crucially we ensure that the more _ budget and crucially we ensure that the more than £300 million that we have that _ the more than £300 million that we have that we have not been able to spend _ have that we have not been able to spend for— have that we have not been able to spend for the want of an executive, that we _ spend for the want of an executive, that we start that out and we get that we start that out and we get that money into people's pockets as soon as— that money into people's pockets as soon as possible. i hope the dp have tisten _ soon as possible. i hope the dp have listen to— soon as possible. i hope the dp have listen to people on the ground when they have _ listen to people on the ground when they have told them that they are struggling from day to dayjust to make ends meet. any delay, be sure, any delay— make ends meet. any delay, be sure, any delay will be greeted with dismay— any delay will be greeted with dismay and anger by that wide generat— dismay and anger by that wide general public.— dismay and anger by that wide general public. when i spoke to it bennett of the _ general public. when i spoke to it bennett of the dup _ general public. when i spoke to it bennett of the dup earlier- general public. when i spoke to it bennett of the dup earlier who i general public. when i spoke to it. bennett of the dup earlier who has briefly party leader for a period, he said that votes going to traditional unionist voice, another anti—particle party, was a sign that unionism was heartening around that position. and for that reason, they would not be returning to the executive. i mention dysfunction a
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moment ago, isn't that a sign of democracy not working and democracy not functioning in northern ireland? democracy has to work. the opinion potting _ democracy has to work. the opinion potting prior— democracy has to work. the opinion polling prior to this election campaign and the results of this election— campaign and the results of this election campaign have demonstrated firstly that the issues around the protocol. — firstly that the issues around the protocol, yes, are a concern for a section— protocol, yes, are a concern for a section of— protocol, yes, are a concern for a section of political unionism, but it's by— section of political unionism, but it's by no— section of political unionism, but it's by no means the dominant issue in politics— it's by no means the dominant issue in politics here, secondly, there is a huge _ in politics here, secondly, there is a huge pro — in politics here, secondly, there is a huge pro protocol sentiments right across— a huge pro protocol sentiments right across the _ a huge pro protocol sentiments right across the north, so the dup can have _ across the north, so the dup can have their— across the north, so the dup can have their view, that he if he can take _ have their view, that he if he can take their political stance, but they— take their political stance, but they can't— take their political stance, but they can't have everything their own way, they can't have everything their own way. and _ they can't have everything their own way, and they cannot insist that because — way, and they cannot insist that because their view is not the predominant view that they are going to hold _ predominant view that they are going to hold up. _ predominant view that they are going to hold up, by the way, the issues on the _ to hold up, by the way, the issues on the protocol are not insurmountable, if the british government acts in good faith with our european partners, they can sort these _ our european partners, they can sort these matters out. the assembly has no prerogative in that regard. what about the centre _
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no prerogative in that regard. transit about the centre ground? and no prerogative in that regard. imagt about the centre ground? and other big story of this election, the alliance party coming cross community alliance party doing very well, now, your party colleague said to me earlier that the good friday agreement, which sets up this finely balanced arrangement between unionism and nationalism is a bespoke agreement, it cannot easily bespoke agreement, it cannot easily be unpacked, but where once in northern ireland people were put in boxes, weren't they, green or orange, nationalist or unionist, we now have this large centre ground swell of voting, does the arrangement that star might need to be reconfigured to take account of that? . ., ., ., , that? the current arrangement means that? the current arrangement means that the alliance _ that? the current arrangement means that the alliance party _ that? the current arrangement means that the alliance party sat _ that? the current arrangement means that the alliance party sat at _ that? the current arrangement means that the alliance party sat at the - that the alliance party sat at the executive — that the alliance party sat at the executive table, and rightly so, claiming — executive table, and rightly so, claiming their position to represent their constituency, sol claiming their position to represent their constituency, so i don't accept — their constituency, so i don't accept that they are excluded from the arrangements, indeed, whoever the arrangements, indeed, whoever the largest— the arrangements, indeed, whoever the largest party is, be it alliance or sinn— the largest party is, be it alliance or sinn fein — the largest party is, be it alliance or sinn fein or anyone else, has the right— or sinn fein or anyone else, has the right and _ or sinn fein or anyone else, has the right and prerogative to nominate
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the first _ right and prerogative to nominate the first minister. let me make this point. _ the first minister. let me make this point, whatever might happened in the future. — point, whatever might happened in the future, all of us need to understand that we force this election— understand that we force this election on the basis of the agreed rule book— election on the basis of the agreed rule book that we have now, and the first challenge for all of us is to conform — first challenge for all of us is to conform to those rules and norms, to be respectful to each other and to actually _ be respectful to each other and to actually crack on and to form an executive — actually crack on and to form an executive stop. i actually crack on and to form an executive stop.— actually crack on and to form an executive stop. i 'ust want to ask ou, executive stop. i 'ust want to ask you. what _ executive stop. i 'ust want to ask you. what is — executive stop. ijust want to ask you. what is your _ executive stop. ijust want to ask you, what is your timeframe - executive stop. ijust want to ask you, what is your timeframe for. executive stop. ijust want to ask| you, what is your timeframe for a potential border poll on the united ireland? this is not something that sinn fein mentioned during the campaign, and ethernet it was the democratic unionist party to mention this more than sinn fein, but clearly, there is an anxiety amongst unionist about that, so what is your timeframe for a border pole? mr; timeframe for a border pole? my first timeframe is this, preparation for orderty. — first timeframe is this, preparation for orderly, peaceful democratic transition — for orderly, peaceful democratic transition needs to start now. i've made _ transition needs to start now. i've made that— transition needs to start now. i've made that case very strongly to the government in dublin in particular. that needs — government in dublin in particular. that needs to be an inclusive process. _ that needs to be an inclusive process, and there is no time to... what _ process, and there is no time to... what does — process, and there is no time to... what does that mean? it
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process, and there is no time to... what does that mean?— process, and there is no time to... what does that mean? it means the formation of— what does that mean? it means the formation of a _ what does that mean? it means the formation of a citizens _ what does that mean? it means the formation of a citizens assembly, i formation of a citizens assembly, north— formation of a citizens assembly, north and — formation of a citizens assembly, north and south to bring all of the stakeholders together, including the political _ stakeholders together, including the political parties, but notjust the political— political parties, but notjust the political parties, but notjust the political parties to talk about health— political parties to talk about health and education and to talk about— health and education and to talk about the — health and education and to talk about the future that we need to build _ about the future that we need to build together. on the issue of the referendums themselves, they are provided _ referendums themselves, they are provided for in the good friday agreement which will be 25 years old next year. _ agreement which will be 25 years old next year, we are going to have these _ next year, we are going to have these referendums in the coming years _ these referendums in the coming years do — these referendums in the coming ears. y ., these referendums in the coming ears. ,, . these referendums in the coming ears. ., ., ., | years. do you have a timeframe? i think these — years. do you have a timeframe? i think these votes _ years. do you have a timeframe? i think these votes will _ years. do you have a timeframe? i think these votes will happen - think these votes will happen certainly within this decade, i believe — certainly within this decade, i believe that the next five years will stop — believe that the next five years will stop that's my view, but i also know— will stop that's my view, but i also know that — will stop that's my view, but i also know that we need to prepare now for about _ know that we need to prepare now for about orderly peaceful democratic change _ about orderly peaceful democratic change |— about orderly peaceful democratic chan . e. ~ about orderly peaceful democratic chance. ~ �* . about orderly peaceful democratic chance. ,, �*, ., ., change. i think it's fair to say that quite — change. i think it's fair to say that quite a _ change. i think it's fair to say that quite a few _ change. i think it's fair to say that quite a few people - change. i think it's fair to say that quite a few people have | that quite a few people have observed that it to come to come to a border pole, it's actually those middle ground voters who are made up of people from all sorts of religious backgrounds and who in theirfamilies may
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religious backgrounds and who in their families may have traditional nationalist or unionist backgrounds but perhaps their views have changed or move toward centre ground. it's those sorts of people who ultimately will be the ones deciding because they are going to sway a border patrol boat if it happens one way or the other, which is a very interesting points to end that interview on.— interesting points to end that interview on. ., ,, , interview on. indeed, thank you very much. we interview on. indeed, thank you very much- we will— interview on. indeed, thank you very much. we will be _ interview on. indeed, thank you very much. we will be back _ interview on. indeed, thank you very much. we will be back given - interview on. indeed, thank you very much. we will be back given those i much. we will be back given those results are — much. we will be back given those results are still— much. we will be back given those results are still coming _ much. we will be back given those results are still coming in - much. we will be back given those results are still coming in in - results are still coming in in belfast. what we would like to do now is white in the context. he looked at northern ireland there, let's get right up to date on the state of the parties now this evening. and to look may be asked some of the notable losses and gains, so let'sjoin reeta chakrabarti to have a look at that. i will take it the results of england, scotland and wales, but this screen is about england only. only four more councils left to declare, so we are nearly there now, it's been a long night and a long
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day. we are nearly there. as you can see later has picked up 53 counsellors, it's gone forward —— labour, not nearly as much as it wanted to the conservatives have had a bad night of it. he's lost over 300 counsellors and that is just in england. the lib dems by contrast have put in a very healthy performance gaining 187, and the greens too, let's put in the word for the greens, because they've gained more counsellors and labour have, so good performance by them. let's look at some of the actual counsel results, starting with wales, and bridge and come you can see is a labour again. bridge and, let me bring out the details for you, so this is in south wales. it is a labouragain, they you, so this is in south wales. it is a labour again, they have a majority of three seats, and what's interesting here is to show you how much labour have gone forward. look at that, up by ten seats,
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independence also gaining six seats, and that's at the expense of mainly the conservatives, but of liberal democrats two. cardiff is a labour hole, but that is also interesting to look at, just in terms of an emerging story of labour doing well in wales overnight, so they have got a great big majority here in card of 31 seats, and last time around, it was the conservatives who gained ten seats in 2017, even though it was a labour council style. look at that. they've gained 13 seats in cardiff, and the comparison with the conservative performance of losing 11. so they will not be unhappy with their performance there. in my maths, the conservatives have lost control of that council, and it is now a hung counsel. plaid has picked
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up now a hung counsel. plaid has picked up councils, and moving to england, i've described it as the one silver lining in an otherwise rather dark cloud for the conservatives in london because they lost westminster, barnett and wandsworth, but they have gained cairo, so they will be certainly rather relieved at that. the lib dems on a very good night for them to have gained passport in hampshire from the conservatives, and they have gained woking from no overall control, working in surrey, and the snp once again taps the paul in scotland. they are pre—eminent and they have gained dundee from no overall control. if you are wondering what has happened in your own area, please do go to the bbc news website, and to your postcode and your area will come up, so that's on the website and it is also on the bbc news app. the website and it is also on the bbc news app-— the website and it is also on the bbc news app. reeta chakrabarti, thank ou
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bbc news app. reeta chakrabarti, thank you very _ bbc news app. reeta chakrabarti, thank you very much. _ bbc news app. reeta chakrabarti, thank you very much. some - thank you very much. some interesting results there to reflect on. our guests and i werejust having a look at one or two of them wondering what prompted this are what prompted that and we can try to unpick some of them. allison, christopher, get to happy with us. i suppose the best thing to do so that we are all together with viewers who, let's take it pretty by party, they do by the tacoma party by party, let's start with the conservatives then. i will start with you, christopher, we started the day thinking, oh, you know, it's not been great for the tories in london, a bit of a surprise they lost westminster, wandsworth maybe wasn't quite so much of a surprise, barnett was a good win fair labour, but outside london, as the wisdom went earlier, it's not too bad for the conservatives. as we got to the stage of the day, it looks rather where us and some of the results there will tell their own story. live bands in the south, labour and other parts, how do you rate the tory performance? it’s
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other parts, how do you rate the tory performance?— tory performance? it's not a disaster. — tory performance? it's not a disaster, which _ tory performance? it's not a disaster, which is _ tory performance? it's not a disaster, which is what - tory performance? it's not a disaster, which is what a - tory performance? it's not a disaster, which is what a lot | tory performance? it's not a l disaster, which is what a lot of tory mps are fearing, we thought it would be a massive weekend of tory leadership speculation, boris johnson was a carlsberg, he reached parts of the country of their mp leaders couldn't reach, that is more like an own brand longer now, he is less popular in some parts, that's the problem he's got. he said he had a ct when in 2019, it's not crumbling, but it's been chipped away, and that is a worry, i think. pressure on him in the southwest, don't forget, somerset mps, i've been talking to marcus, the mp for yeovil, he is really upset, a change in economic direction, pressure from all sides to me looking a bit more battered, i think emma wasn't a disaster that could've happened. i5 disaster that could've happened. is he, in terms of his own position, significantly less secure now or not? these no—confidence letters who got sent in, not? these no-confidence letters who not sent in, , , not? these no-confidence letters who cotsentin, _, , ,, got sent in, they say is less secure. _
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got sent in, they say is less secure. the _ got sent in, they say is less secure, the ones _ got sent in, they say is less secure, the ones i've - got sent in, they say is less. secure, the ones i've spoken got sent in, they say is less - secure, the ones i've spoken to the sentiment, but there is no real bandwagon behind that, but there is certainly leadership in the air, we know there may be a big issue next week, and i think for me the tory party needs to have a vote of confidence injohnsonjust party needs to have a vote of confidence in johnson just to party needs to have a vote of confidence injohnson just to get past the predicate stuff, because that hangs over him, i was in wandsworth last week and a lot of tory mps saying we mightjust vote for him this time because of bands and potholes and low council tax, but the general election, no chance. i think somehow he needs a reckoning with his own mps and membership on the issue of predicate and he hasn't done it yet. i5 the issue of predicate and he hasn't done it yet-— done it yet. is that doable, allison criso a done it yet. is that doable, allison crispo a lot _ done it yet. is that doable, allison crispo a lot of— done it yet. is that doable, allison crispo a lot of the _ done it yet. is that doable, allison crispo a lot of the people - done it yet. is that doable, allison crispo a lot of the people i've - done it yet. is that doable, allison | crispo a lot of the people i've been speaking to today, local counsellors have been really quite angry that they felt that they were having to have those arguments on doorsteps of people who were angry about predicate. at that cumberland was an interesting one this morning, because obviously they were the big london ones, but we sort of to an extent expected, but it doesn't detract from the idea of westminster
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and barnett cannot happen a few hours ago, but they are still big stories. i think what's interesting is you have things that are out of london, this idea that maybe he was safe outside london, i hope cumberland was a really interesting one, and the carlisle city counsellors this morning and he was absolutely furious that he had had to go out there and defend things that he felt indefensible i think there is more of that around, i think that _ there is more of that around, i think that would be if they it were to be _ think that would be if they it were to be a _ think that would be if they it were to be a good vote of confidence because they don't quite know where that, because they don't quite know where that. how— because they don't quite know where that, how that would finish, and how much _ that, how that would finish, and how much below— that, how that would finish, and how much below the surface, and it's like he _ much below the surface, and it's like he sort _ much below the surface, and it's like he sort of under attack from all directions from those redwall seats _ all directions from those redwall seats where you are going to have mps there — seats where you are going to have mps there who have got not a huge majority. _ mps there who have got not a huge majority, and are going to be feeling — majority, and are going to be feeling quite uncomfortable what the next two _ feeling quite uncomfortable what the next two years could bring, it could .et next two years could bring, it could get an _ next two years could bring, it could get an awful lot worse, and if course. — get an awful lot worse, and if course, you got the blue wall, so to speak. _ course, you got the blue wall, so to speak. att— course, you got the blue wall, so to speak, all those other towns where, again. _ speak, all those other towns where, again. there — speak, all those other towns where, again, there are people who are feeling — again, there are people who are feeling uncomfortable at their own position— feeling uncomfortable at their own position and are a bit cross. it is
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interesting _ position and are a bit cross. it is interesting as _ position and are a bit cross. it is interesting as well _ position and are a bit cross. it 3 interesting as well to see where the lib dems have popped up and in pretty confidence style and really made inroads in some of the someone said somerset earlier, that new authority, of course, a whopping victory for a baby, then of course, we have seen in other parts, you know, labour holding up better than some people thought in areas where they wear kind of, as we say, fighting against the tories. now, does this mean, and i ask this to both of you, does this mean that from labour's plaintiff via, it would be betterfor them to maybe not have such a go at borisjohnson and hope he remains in place? does it mean, and i will ask the question differently to you, christopher, which is that these tory mps or a little nervous. one heck of a gamble to start going after a leader who, all right, may be proving to be unpopular with parts of the electorate, but goodness me, you have no idea where an election of a
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leader will take you. it's a gamble.

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