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but much cooler i think in scotland, where it is cloudy and wet into the afternoon. that wet weather does move away through the evening, and then we await the arrival of this next weather system coming in from the atlantic and that is going to draw up some warmer air ahead of it on a southerly breeze. many parts of the country will start dry on tuesday, with some sunshine around and then on that weather front we see this rain developing in western areas, especially during the afternoon when it could turn heavy, but it is with that sunshine and breeze it is going to feel warm. the warmest day of the week ahead, 26 degrees likely in the south—east of england, but given that heat we could trigger a few storms later in the day. most of the wet weather coming on that weather front there and that will push rain eastwards overnight. that should be moving away from most areas on wednesday, but again the devil is going to be in the detail, many places starting dry on wednesday, some sunshine and showers in the north—west of scotland moving away, thickening cloud arriving in the south—west and that will start to bring some rain in as well. that will push northwards and eastwards during the evening into the night and ahead that
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developing rain, temperatures are in the low 20s in many places. that is the theme, really, through the week ahead. there is some warmth and some sunshine at times, but every now and again there is potentialfor some heavy and even thundery downpours. hello, this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. sweden's ruling social democrats have backed the country joining nato. it's after finland also confirmed it will apply for nato membership, in response to russia's invasion of ukraine. their membership in nato would increase our shared security,
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demonstrate that nato�*s door is open, and that aggression does not pay. a british military intelligence assessment suggests russia may have lost a third of its ground forces since the start of its invasion of ukraine. president biden says america must do all it can to end hate—filled domestic terrorism, after ten people are killed in a shooting in buffalo. the uk government says it wouldn't be deterred from taking action over post—brexit trading arrangements in northern ireland to try to help restore power—sharing at stormont. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the author and journalist yasmin alibhai—brown, and kate maltby, columnist
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for the i newspaper. we will be be —— be hearing from them both shortly. first, let's spin you through what the papers are saying. the financial times, which leads with finland and sweden announcing they will bid to join the nato military alliance. it says the move would cause a geopolitical shift in europe. meanwhile, the metro dedicates its front page to ukraine's eurovision success, quoting president zelensky, who insists the country will host next year's competition. and the belfast telegraph boasts an exclusive essay by borisjohnson, where he sets out his northern ireland policy in multiple areas — irish language, abortion, amnesty and lot on the protocol. the telegraph, too, covers the ongoing discussions over the northern ireland protocol — also featuring a picture of the margaret thatcher statue, which was egged after being
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unveiled in grantham. the same story on the front of the i, which accuses the pm of triggering a trade war with th european union. the guardian leads with claims by police leaders that priti patel is attempting to give herself new powers without parliamentary approval. the mail splashes a picture of queen elizabeth attending the royal windsor horse show — the first of her appearances at jubilee celebration events. and smiling as well. very nice picture there of her majesty. let's bring in the guests. hello to you both. good to see you. even though it's on video conference, it's good to see you. we will start with the bell cat —— belfast telegraph. a lot of people reporting on this story, and i suppose in a nutshell, having read most of this as a myself, he's
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basically dictating that the protocol does need to change no matter what the eu wants. yasmin, i'd love to get your thoughts first. i'm completely perturbed, confused, and if i was an irish citizen, i would be completely lost. reading this essay very quickly, this was a protocol that was agreed by his government, by him. he's now tearing it up. at a time where i feel... we'vejust it up. at a time where i feel... we've just heard it up. at a time where i feel... we'vejust heard sinn fein win more seats than they've won before. the situation is really delicate. the various parties have it yet come together to form a government, and he barges in, still believing he's some sort of church alien figure. kind of dictating terms thatjust is
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so unhelpful —— churchillian. i5 so unhelpful —— churchillian. is that he just trying to do hisjob that he just trying to do his job and bring the stability to northern ireland and run northern ireland? they're starting a trade war. i’m they're starting a trade war. i'm sure he hepes — they're starting a trade war. i'm sure he hopes he can avoid that. kate, let's bring you and was the yasmin says he has no right to do this. ~ . ., , ., this. well, i agree with yasmin that there are some _ this. well, i agree with yasmin that there are some huge _ this. well, i agree with yasmin that there are some huge concerns - this. well, i agree with yasmin that l there are some huge concerns about there are some huge concerns about the attempt to tear up a protocol that borisjohnson himself agreed and sold _ that borisjohnson himself agreed and sold the rest of the country, but i _ and sold the rest of the country, but i don't — and sold the rest of the country, but i don't think he's being patronising or dictating. it is a very— patronising or dictating. it is a very carefully written act of diplomacy which is full of local references to belfast's history, its industries. — references to belfast's history, its industries, northern arliss kosher -- northern— industries, northern arliss kosher —— northern irish culture. i want to look— —— northern irish culture. i want to look at _ —— northern irish culture. i want to look at this— —— northern irish culture. i want to look at this telegraph headline, and
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what's _ look at this telegraph headline, and what's remarkable to me is there is a big _ what's remarkable to me is there is a big difference between this and the many, many other british papers on the _ the many, many other british papers on the mainland that also focus on the protocol, which is actually that, — the protocol, which is actually that, for— the protocol, which is actually that, for readers and belfast, the protocol— that, for readers and belfast, the protocol is — that, for readers and belfast, the protocol is only one of the issues that boris— protocol is only one of the issues that borisjohnson protocol is only one of the issues that boris johnson writes about that they're _ that boris johnson writes about that they're concerned about. yes, it says— they're concerned about. yes, it says the — they're concerned about. yes, it says the uk_ they're concerned about. yes, it says the uk will take action, i:e., they— says the uk will take action, i:e., they wiii— says the uk will take action, i:e., they will tear up the protocol. there's — they will tear up the protocol. there's also a focus on northern ireiand _ there's also a focus on northern ireland parties needing to elect a ieadeh _ ireland parties needing to elect a leader. also, ithink ireland parties needing to elect a leader. also, i think this is the type _ leader. also, i think this is the type of— leader. also, i think this is the type of issue that matters if you're living _ type of issue that matters if you're living in _ type of issue that matters if you're living in northern ireland. i action on irish— living in northern ireland. i action on irish language, abortion, the reconciliation process and potential
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prosecutions for police and military misconduct. there's a lot more than 'ust misconduct. there's a lot more than just the _ misconduct. there's a lot more than just the protocol going along here. yasmin. _ just the protocol going along here. yasmin, the point i was trying to make earlier is, i'm not defending the prime minister, i'm just playing devil's advocate. this is about devolution and he makes it quite clear. the eu shouldn't have an influence over whether that returns. yeah, but he's got absolutely nothing to do with the struggles that are taking place in southern ireland over abortion. he'sjust a step in here and pretended that a lot of this is to do with his government. i think it's decently disrespectful to the people of northern and southern ireland. sam; northern and southern ireland. sorry to interruot. — northern and southern ireland. sorry to interrupt, because _ northern and southern ireland. sorry to interrupt, because kate _ northern and southern ireland. sorry to interrupt, because kate want to chip in. to interrupt, because kate want to chi in. �* , to interrupt, because kate want to chi in. v . ~ to interrupt, because kate want to chi in. �*, ., ~ ., chip in. he's talking about the issue in northern _ chip in. he's talking about the issue in northern ireland - issue in northern ireland specifically. he's talking about the need to— specifically. he's talking about the need to actually push forward access to abortion _ need to actually push forward access to abortion for the women in
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northern— to abortion for the women in northern ireland so that is finally, and i_ northern ireland so that is finally, and i think— northern ireland so that is finally, and i think this is a cause you and i and i think this is a cause you and i both— and i think this is a cause you and i both care — and i think this is a cause you and i both care about, finally equal to the access— i both care about, finally equal to the access provided in the rest of the access provided in the rest of the united — the access provided in the rest of the united kingdom. this isn't about the united kingdom. this isn't about the southard abortion... can the united kingdom. this isn't about the southard abortion. . ._ the united kingdom. this isn't about the southard abortion... can we move on? we could — the southard abortion... can we move on? we could discuss _ the southard abortion... can we move on? we could discuss this _ the southard abortion... can we move on? we could discuss this for - the southard abortion... can we move on? we could discuss this for a - on? we could discuss this for a whole hour. but we must move on. sweden and finland to harold new era. when you heard about this, when you see nato growing so quickly, what are your thoughts?- you see nato growing so quickly, what are your thoughts? well, this is one of the _ what are your thoughts? well, this is one of the unintended _ is one of the unintended consequences of what putin has done, which... he he says it was about nato's aggression,", and i think it's completely understandable that there are countries that are very worried about what russia's admissions are, and this was going to be inevitable. i personally think
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it's quite a good development. sweden has been neutralfor about 200 years. but there must be genuine fears now across the mainland of europe and further east. finland, i think, is coming in without any conditions. sweden is going to take it step—by—step. turkey is trying to profit, but it will not succeed. i think it's a good thing. —— to block it. think it's a good thing. -- to block it. ., ., ., ,. ,, it. kate, i want to discuss another sto with it. kate, i want to discuss another story with you- — it. kate, i want to discuss another story with you. office _ it. kate, i want to discuss another story with you. office meshes - it. kate, i want to discuss anotherj story with you. office meshes still to —— message fails to sink in. some companies have found it better and cheaper and more cost—effective to keep staff at home. but a lot of people are just reluctant, even to follow orders.— people are just reluctant, even to follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowl and follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowly and we've _ follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowly and we've all— follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowly and we've all got _ follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowly and we've all got used - follow orders. yes, behaviour shifts slowly and we've all got used to - slowly and we've all got used to working — slowly and we've all got used to working from home. i think it's also
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the case _ working from home. i think it's also the case that this has become deeply poiitcised _ the case that this has become deeply politcised and we see this in the way that someone like jacob rees—mogg has become the spokesperson for a kind of tory push, _ spokesperson for a kind of tory push, which accuses people in the civil service — push, which accuses people in the civil service of being lazy and inefficient because they work from home _ inefficient because they work from home. despite the fact that in many government departments, some of the people _ government departments, some of the people we _ government departments, some of the people i've spoken to say there isn't _ people i've spoken to say there isn't enough space in whitehall for them _ isn't enough space in whitehall for them all— isn't enough space in whitehall for them all to work physically in the building — them all to work physically in the building. at the same... meanwhile, there's— building. at the same... meanwhile, there's been— building. at the same... meanwhile, there's been a lot of virtue signalling about giving people more opportunity to work from home, but for example, one company i think suggested this week that you couidm _ suggested this week that you could... they were being generous by suggesting you could work from home if you were _ suggesting you could work from home if you were prepared to be paid 20% less, _ if you were prepared to be paid 20% loss. which— if you were prepared to be paid 20% less, which will be supported —— disproportionately impact women and carers _ disproportionately impact women and carers it's_ disproportionately impact women and carers. it's really complicated. i�*m
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carers. it's really complicated. i'm missin: carers. it's really complicated. i'm missing my _ carers. it's really complicated. i“n missing my 22nd commute. from the shedin missing my 22nd commute. from the shed in the garden. how about you, yasmin? i shed in the garden. how about you, yasmin? ., ~' shed in the garden. how about you, yasmin? ., ,, ., ., ., ., yasmin? i work from home almost all my working- -- — yasmin? i work from home almost all my working... for _ yasmin? i work from home almost all my working... for the _ yasmin? i work from home almost all my working... for the last _ yasmin? i work from home almost all my working... for the last 37 - yasmin? i work from home almost all my working... for the last 37 years. l my working... for the last 37 years. i'm very comfortable working from home. look at the time saved by not commuting. it's very interesting to go back to physical work, going to the office. and he loves going into the office. and he loves going into the office, but many hours are spent on crowded tube, which could be spent working. it on crowded tube, which could be spent working-— spent working. it saves a lot of money as _ spent working. it saves a lot of money as well. _ spent working. it saves a lot of money as well. not _ spent working. it saves a lot of money as well. not paying - spent working. it saves a lot of - money as well. not paying thousands of pounds a year is welcome to a lot of people. let's move on to the guardian. police chiefs are accusing priti patel ofjust police chiefs are accusing priti patel of just that. police chiefs are accusing priti patel ofjust that. yasmin.
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patel of 'ust that. yasmin. which side patel ofjust that. yasmin. which side would _ patel ofjust that. yasmin. which side would i _ patel ofjust that. yasmin. which side would i choose _ patel ofjust that. yasmin. which side would i choose in _ patel ofjust that. yasmin. which side would i choose in this - patel ofjust that. yasmin. which l side would i choose in this battle? there's been so much evidence of really big failures by various police forces and protecting women, often in a lot of areas, losing public trust. there has to be some change. do i think priti patel is the person to make that change? frankly, no. iwatch the person to make that change? frankly, no. i watch the battle with interest. ,, , ., , . interest. she is the home office secretary at _ interest. she is the home office secretary at the _ interest. she is the home office secretary at the moment. - interest. she is the home office secretary at the moment. she . interest. she is the home office i secretary at the moment. she does have those powers to at least try. kate, what do you make of this? we're looking at a power grab that would allow her to intervene on local law enforcement matters and silence chiefs who want to speak out if use deemed politically sensitive —— on issues. i if use deemed politically sensitive -- on issues-— -- on issues. i think it's always worrying _ -- on issues. i think it's always worrying when _ -- on issues. i think it's always worrying when a _ -- on issues. i think it's always worrying when a government i -- on issues. i think it's always - worrying when a government wants to impose _ worrying when a government wants to impose gagging orders, and you have to remember this is a government which _ to remember this is a government which is _ to remember this is a government which is pushing through legislation
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to protect _ which is pushing through legislation to protect free speech. he claims to be a to protect free speech. he claims to he a great _ to protect free speech. he claims to be a great champion of freedom of and practice —— an expression, but perhaps— and practice —— an expression, but perhaps not— and practice —— an expression, but perhaps not people who are working for him _ perhaps not people who are working for him. we're going through a time where _ for him. we're going through a time where policing has been extraordinarily politcised. we now have police and crime commissioners, we have _ have police and crime commissioners, we have elections, we have more... yeah, _ we have elections, we have more... yeah, regional power struggles that io yeah, regional power struggles that go back— yeah, regional power struggles that go back to _ yeah, regional power struggles that go back to the electorate. so, i think— go back to the electorate. so, i think this — go back to the electorate. so, i think this will actually get nastier as we _ think this will actually get nastier as we go— think this will actually get nastier as we go on. the think this will actually get nastier as we go om— think this will actually get nastier asweuoon. , ., ., ., , as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught — as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught in _ as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught in the _ as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught in the home _ as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught in the home office - as we go on. the guardian have seen this draught in the home office say l this draught in the home office say it's not a power grab, it's another threat to independence. they make it clear hisjob is threat to independence. they make it clear his job is to threat to independence. they make it clear hisjob is to do threat to independence. they make it clear his job is to do what. —— whosejob. very quickly, let's have a look at the daily telegraph. dominated by the daily telegraph. dominated by the statue of margaret thatcher,
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which hasn't gone down well with some local residents in grantham. should it be there or should it not? you've got 60 seconds. [30 should it be there or should it not? you've got 60 seconds.— you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? lthink— you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i think we _ you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i think we should _ you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i think we should get - you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i think we should get rid - you've got 60 seconds. do you know what? i think we should get rid of. what? i think we should get rid of all statues and forever. they cause nothing but trouble. they harm people in different ways. it's something i remember a friend of mine, gary young, did a very good essay on it, saying nobody agrees about which statue should go up and which should be kept. just get rid of the lot of them. i think and i —— ican of the lot of them. i think and i —— i can understand. thatcher is a very divisive character, but a lot of people love her. 50 divisive character, but a lot of people love her.— divisive character, but a lot of people love her. so we should get rid of the statue _ people love her. so we should get rid of the statue of— people love her. so we should get rid of the statue of nelson - people love her. so we should get. rid of the statue of nelson mandela and on the mall?— and on the mall? yes, all statues. kate? absolutely _ and on the mall? yes, all statues. kate? absolutely pathetic - and on the mall? yes, all statues. kate? absolutely pathetic that - kate? absolutely pathetic that an one is kate? absolutely pathetic that anyone is egging _ kate? absolutely pathetic that anyone is egging a _ kate? absolutely pathetic that anyone is egging a statue - kate? absolutely pathetic that anyone is egging a statue of l anyone is egging a statue of margaret thatcher. or indeed any statute _ margaret thatcher. or indeed any statute of— margaret thatcher. or indeed any statute of a politician. obviously,
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there _ statute of a politician. obviously, there should be a statue of margaret thatcher, _

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