the countryjoining nato — it's after finland also confirmed it will apply for nato membership, in response to russia's invasion of ukraine. their membership in nato would increase our shared security, demonstrate that nato�*s door is open and that aggression does not pay. a british military intelligence assessment suggests russia may have lost a third of its ground forces since the start of its invasion of ukraine. president biden says america must do all it can to end hate—filled domestic terrorism, after ten people are killed in a shooting in buffalo. the uk government says it wouldn't be deterred from taking action over post—brexit trading arrangements in northern ireland to try to help restore power—sharing at stormont.

hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the author and journalist yasmin alibhai—brown, and kate maltby, columnist for the i newspaper. good evening to you both. the headlines... the financial times — which leads with finland and sweden announcing they will bid tojoin nato. it says the move would cause a geopolitical shift in europe. and lots of focus on the belfast telegraph, which boasts an exclusive essay by borisjohnson — where he sets out his northern ireland policy. the telegraph, too, covers the ongoing discussions over the northern ireland protocol — also featuring a picture of the margaret thatcher statue which was egged after being unveiled in grantham.

and it's the same lead story for the independent, which quotes government sources urging the eu to help resolve the protocol standoff. it also shows a picture from protests after the shooting in buffalo in the us. the mirror takes the us massacre as its lead, and says the suspect had an obsession with uk towns and court cases — and wanted london mayor sadiq khan murdered. the guardian leads with claims by police leaders that priti patel is attempting to give herself new powers without parliamentary approval. the times has a different police story — leading with its interview with the new chief inspector of constabulary, andy cooke. he says forces should focus more on serious offences than differences of opinion. and the mail splashes a picture of queen elizabeth attending the royal windsor horse show — the first of her appearances

at jubilee celebration events. so let's begin. journalistic royalty tonight. jazmine and kate, good to see you both. we are going to start with to but different stories about the police. i know you want to discuss the guardian, the headline is, police chiefs accuse home secretary of power grab. something that home—office sources are telling the newspapers not the case at all. he has been, just talk us through this. the front page doesn't have as much detail perhaps is i would like to know. something is building up between some police chiefs and the elected commissioners as well and the home secretary priti patel put up the home secretary priti patel put up odd love to know where this is coming from. it seems to me power grab is a very vague term, what are they talking about? one has to remember that she was very

supportive of cressida dick long after a lot of us had lost faith, a lot of londoners had lost faith in her leadership. including siddique khan. is this battle up between elected labour commissioners or is it... is not very clear but something is building up. for me, i just don't know which side to support on this was up i think police and hasn't been what it should be for a long time. kate, we should be for a long time. kate, we should point— should be for a long time. kate, we should point out _ should be for a long time. kate, we should point out the _ should be for a long time. kate, we should point out the guardian - should be for a long time. kate, we should point out the guardian saysl should point out the guardian says it's seeing the home office draught of its new version of what it would like to do. basically attempting to revise policing protocol and how outspoken they could be about political decisions. is it some sides emerging, is there a bigger picture to this or is it priti patel wanted more control of the british

police? i wanted more control of the british olice? . �* , wanted more control of the british olice? . 2 , , police? i agree there's probably still a lot to _ police? i agree there's probably still a lot to emerge _ police? i agree there's probably still a lot to emerge that - police? i agree there's probably still a lot to emerge that we - police? i agree there's probably l still a lot to emerge that we don't know _ still a lot to emerge that we don't know. what we can already see is that this is — know. what we can already see is that this is about who gets to set police _ that this is about who gets to set police priorities. in particular the limit _ police priorities. in particular the limit of— police priorities. in particular the limit of speaking out in public when our disagreement. let's be fair here, _ our disagreement. let's be fair here, whoever is the home secretary and whichever party is in government, there's always going to be disagreement between the ruling party of— be disagreement between the ruling party of government and police forces — party of government and police forces. historically it's happened over at— forces. historically it's happened over at it's — forces. historically it's happened over at it's happened every single government we've ever had. but this is really— government we've ever had. but this is really about is how much we the public— is really about is how much we the public wiii— is really about is how much we the public will ever find out about those — public will ever find out about those differences. that worries me, as i those differences. that worries me, as i said _ those differences. that worries me, as i said before, this is a government that claims to believe passionately in the freedom of speech — passionately in the freedom of speech. it's putting through legislation in parliament to defend freedom _ legislation in parliament to defend freedom of speech and university supposedly but it doesn't seem to like them — supposedly but it doesn't seem to like them in critical police chiefs. we got _ like them in critical police chiefs. we got a — like them in critical police chiefs. we got a hint if this at the end of

the guardian article but not much of it, if the guardian article but not much of it. if priti _ the guardian article but not much of it, if priti patel is indeed pouring hack_ it, if priti patel is indeed pouring back power, she's only popcorn back power— back power, she's only popcorn back power that— back power, she's only popcorn back power that conservative government giveaway _ power that conservative government giveaway in the first place, in 2012 which _ giveaway in the first place, in 2012 which is _ giveaway in the first place, in 2012 which is when we had this major shakeup. — which is when we had this major shakeup, there was a huge devolution of policing _ shakeup, there was a huge devolution of policing decision and the introduction of these politically eiected — introduction of these politically elected he cc. it may be that actually _ elected he cc. it may be that actually a _ elected he cc. it may be that actually a lot of these changes are as radicai— actually a lot of these changes are as radical as were being led to believe — as radical as were being led to believe because they're just a reversal — believe because they're just a reversal back to a status quo that a lot of _ reversal back to a status quo that a lot of us— reversal back to a status quo that a lot of us were familiar with before 2012 and — lot of us were familiar with before 2012 and we lived with fine back theh _ 2012 and we lived with fine back theh so — 2012 and we lived with fine back then. so we will see as more emerges _ then. so we will see as more emerges. sis then. so we will see as more emerges— then. so we will see as more emerues. a ~ ., ., , emerges. as you both know, as any “ournalist emerges. as you both know, as any journalist knows _ emerges. as you both know, as any journalist knows in _ emerges. as you both know, as any journalist knows in his _ emerges. as you both know, as any journalist knows in his country, - emerges. as you both know, as any journalist knows in his country, all. journalist knows in his country, all people want watching this programme is more policing and less politics. that's something that the terms are focused on with the first interview with andy cooke, the chief of constables who said that police need

to avoid politics with a small p, follow the law and remember the different thoughts are not a defense. we are not the thought police. he wants more focus on driving down crime. it has become to see what your reaction is to that. it's a really interesting story. it is. it's fascinating because it is certainly... kind of connects to the developments of modern culture, if you like here and in many other countries. is it all right for the police intervene when somebody is simply said something or whatever they said led to an actual crime? i think this is a debate we really seriously need to have. what is harm, what should be outlawed and what has to be allowed in a free

society? as kate said, part of the ongoing conversation we are having starts with enhanced freedom of expression and universities. but i've always believed that words can really hurt and destabilise human beings. but i don't think it's the business of the law to step in. i business of the law to step in. i suppose in many ways most of the things that he's talking about don't actually happen face to face and in person, they happen on social media what people can hide anonymously. and you can't police that as we are now discovering.— now discovering. that's right, very hard to police. _ now discovering. that's right, very hard to police. one _ now discovering. that's right, very hard to police. one of— now discovering. that's right, very hard to police. one of the - now discovering. that's right, very hard to police. one of the things l hard to police. one of the things that worries me about the upcoming ohiihe _ that worries me about the upcoming online safety bill is there is an attempt — online safety bill is there is an attempt to strip anonymity which sounds _ attempt to strip anonymity which sounds all very grand and great where — sounds all very grand and great where you _ sounds all very grand and great where you and jasmine are talking about— where you and jasmine are talking about people who might be sending abuse _ about people who might be sending abuse from anonymous accounts but it's actually— abuse from anonymous accounts but

it's actually gonna limit the ability— it's actually gonna limit the ability of people to beat whistle—blowers. we journalist often whistle— blowers. we journalist often rely on _ whistle—blowers. we journalist often rely on people who are being brave but have _ rely on people who are being brave but have to — rely on people who are being brave but have to be anonymous when the speaking truth to power and telling us what's _ speaking truth to power and telling us what's going on. with a lot of this i appreciate your husbands point, — this i appreciate your husbands point, there is such a thing —— yasmirre~ _ point, there is such a thing —— yasmirre~ i_ point, there is such a thing —— yasmine. i think a lot of the exampies _ yasmine. i think a lot of the examples at that the times article uses are _ examples at that the times article uses are very straightforwardly poiice — uses are very straightforwardly police interfering where nothing itiegat— police interfering where nothing illegal has happened. it seems to be quite worrying to those who do care about freedom of speech is that the police _ about freedom of speech is that the police themselves don't seem to understand the limits of the law. as with the _ understand the limits of the law. as with the famous case of the officerm _ with the famous case of the officer- - -— with the famous case of the officer... , ., , officer... sorry kate but can't words lead — officer... sorry kate but can't words lead to _ officer... sorry kate but can't words lead to action - officer... sorry kate but can't words lead to action and - officer... sorry kate but can't| words lead to action and can't officer... sorry kate but can't - words lead to action and can't words lead to community divisions? words can be very, very harmful take a look at what's happening in buffalo in the united states in the last 2a

in the united states in the last 24 hours. ~ ., , , . in the united states in the last 24 hours. . ., ,, . ., �*, hours. with all due respect that's what this article _ hours. with all due respect that's what this article is _ hours. with all due respect that's what this article is about. - hours. with all due respect that's what this article is about. we - hours. with all due respect that's what this article is about. we are | what this article is about. we are looking _ what this article is about. we are looking at— what this article is about. we are looking at the papers and what's under— looking at the papers and what's under discussion.— looking at the papers and what's under discussion. sorry about me, i 'ust a under discussion. sorry about me, i just a presenter. _ under discussion. sorry about me, i just a presenter. joey _ under discussion. sorry about me, i just a presenter. joey move - under discussion. sorry about me, i just a presenter. joey move on - under discussion. sorry about me, i just a presenter. joey move on to l just a presenter. joey move on to the belfast telegraph? that's what everybody�*s talking about at the moment. an exclusive essay from borisjohnson on the eve of him speaking to all parties there to try and get devolution back on track. he doesn'tjust and get devolution back on track. he doesn't just talk about the protocol, he talks about a lot of things affecting northern ireland at the moment that a lot of people voted for very recently. it sounds like is there to do business, doesn't it? i like is there to do business, doesn't it?— like is there to do business, doesn't it? , ., ., ~' doesn't it? i did my homeworkl reread this _ doesn't it? i did my homeworkl reread this article _ doesn't it? i did my homeworkl reread this article and _ doesn't it? i did my homeworkl reread this article and i - doesn't it? i did my homeworkl reread this article and i have - reread this article and i have and charge my mind about it at all. read number one thing, 56% of people in northern ireland chose to remain in the eu. their relationship with the eu is very different from the

relationship the mainland brexiteer government has. one must remember that. what he's done, i looked at a very carefully, he's used all the trigger words, we can't do medical research, blah, blah, blah we can take action, ukraine suddenly appears in his essay. he'sjust using trigger words. to actually cheer up an agreement his government worked out. and at a very delicate moment in the long and troubled history of northern ireland. it's all very well for him to say everything is different now, northern ireland... you only have to go to northern ireland to see how fragile it is. go to northern ireland to see how fragile it is— fragile it is. very true. that's what he's — fragile it is. very true. that's what he's doing, _ fragile it is. very true. that's what he's doing, isn't - fragile it is. very true. that's what he's doing, isn't it? - fragile it is. very true. that's what he's doing, isn't it? he| fragile it is. very true. that's i what he's doing, isn't it? he is going there, he's going to see how fragile it is. what you think he's up fragile it is. what you think he's up against tomorrow? looking at the

belfast telegraph you pointed out in the last review, the way they report on the essay, the way they report on the visit is very different to you kate mainland papers. it is the visit is very different to you kate mainland papers. it is very different. the _ kate mainland papers. it is very different. the belfast _ kate mainland papers. it is very different. the belfast telegraph j different. the belfast telegraph focuses — different. the belfast telegraph focuses a lot more on the need to -et focuses a lot more on the need to get the stormont power—sharing executive — get the stormont power—sharing executive back up and running or at least _ executive back up and running or at least where — executive back up and running or at least where boris johnson and self interested presentation of how he thinks _ interested presentation of how he thinks that can happen and how he ties it _ thinks that can happen and how he ties it to— thinks that can happen and how he ties it to reforming the protocol. hes— ties it to reforming the protocol. he's talking about practical issues that impact peoples lives like improving access to abortion, which has been _ improving access to abortion, which has been promised but stalled because — has been promised but stalled because the executive doesn't function _ because the executive doesn't function. there is the new package around _ function. there is the new package around language laws although in fact, that's only about setting up a language _ fact, that's only about setting up a language commission that's going to continue _ language commission that's going to continue to consult. i think the other— continue to consult. i think the other thing is, you asked what he's up other thing is, you asked what he's up against? —

other thing is, you asked what he's up against? he's not so much in belfast — up against? he's not so much in belfast but back in west minister he's up _ belfast but back in west minister he's up against real opposition from the lords _ he's up against real opposition from the lords in — he's up against real opposition from the lords in west minister. who are still fairly— the lords in west minister. who are still fairly remain dominated. that's— still fairly remain dominated. that's what's really interesting about — that's what's really interesting about the story politically over the next few _ about the story politically over the next few weeks. all of english papers becca's on this, they focus on boris _ papers becca's on this, they focus on borisjohnson basically gone back on borisjohnson basically gone back on his— on borisjohnson basically gone back on his word — on borisjohnson basically gone back on his word. we know he's got back in his words — on his word. we know he's got back in his words. we've got all the clips— in his words. we've got all the clips of— in his words. we've got all the clips of him saying completely the contrary— clips of him saying completely the contrary in— clips of him saying completely the contrary in saying we will never have _ contrary in saying we will never have a — contrary in saying we will never have a border on the island of ireland — have a border on the island of ireland and will have all these magic— ireland and will have all these magic things that i think may face a serious _ magic things that i think may face a serious constitutional crisis was up ithink— serious constitutional crisis was up i think the — serious constitutional crisis was up i think the lords will be very reluctant— i think the lords will be very reluctant to press two has the primary— reluctant to press two has the primary that borisjohnson is going to rely— primary that borisjohnson is going to rely on— primary that borisjohnson is going to rely on to make these changes to the protocol. the question is, is he can impact— the protocol. the question is, is he can impact the law, will he suddenly appoint— can impact the law, will he suddenly appoint a _ can impact the law, will he suddenly appoint a lot more conservative peers _ appoint a lot more conservative peers to— appoint a lot more conservative peers to follow his orders? what does _ peers to follow his orders? what does the — peers to follow his orders? what does the lords look like then?

that's— does the lords look like then? that's good to be the real battle. he's got— that's good to be the real battle. he's got a — that's good to be the real battle. he's got a battle with the eu is well. the daily telegraph, pm attacks brussels over cost—of—living crisis. reporting on the fact that he set to scrap parts of the northern ireland protocol that hamper state aid. he's got a lot of battles. one thing we have been discussing this evening is the centre of all of this is the ability for devolution to continue in northern ireland. let's move on to another story on the telegraph was up another story on the telegraph was up nato sweetens bid tojoin nato. shows aggression doesn't pace as the headline. this is been widely reported on. and celebrated in a lot of the papers. reported on. and celebrated in a lot of the papers— of the papers. yes. celebrating something _ of the papers. yes. celebrating something like _ of the papers. yes. celebrating something like this _ of the papers. yes. celebrating something like this which - of the papers. yes. celebrating something like this which came of the papers. yes. celebrating - something like this which came about because of a war declared by russia, we should be careful not to overdo

it. remember, it was the slight suggestion at the time that ukraine was interested injoining nato that got putin into the state where he has launched this appalling war on ukraine. but i think it is a good thing that sweden and finland have applied tojoin and thing that sweden and finland have applied to join and that nato is expanding. there is a question that has been asked recently, what has nato been doing to stop russia? it's very dangerous because there is nuclear weaponry involved. llistens very dangerous because there is nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with — nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. _ nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a _ nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a quick - nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a quick final- in 2007 with georgia. a quick final word from you, kate. what are your thoughts on nato's expansion or potential expansion? i thoughts on nato's expansion or potential expansion?— thoughts on nato's expansion or potential expansion? i wrote about this in my column _ potential expansion? i wrote about this in my column last _ potential expansion? i wrote about this in my column last week- potential expansion? i wrote about this in my column last week for- potential expansion? i wrote about| this in my column last week for that were long _ this in my column last week for that were long past the stage where we should _ were long past the stage where we should worry about whether you're

provoking — should worry about whether you're provoking russia too far frankly, we are provoking russia but