bringing us tomorrow. with me are lord digbyjones, who's a former uk trade minister, and the broadcaster, henry bonsu. welcome to both of you. the metro leads with teenage footballerjake daniels, who has become the first male professional to come out as gay since 1990. the i has the same story — and reports the huge wave of support jake daniels has received, calling it a "chorus of approval". the financial times features the warning by bank of england governor andrew bailey, that he's unable to stop inflation hitting 10% this year. the guardian also picks up on the governor's concerns. he's issued what he calls an "apocalyptic", warning about food price rises, driven by the war in ukraine. that story leads the telegraph, as well — they report the pressure andrew bailey is under from some tory mps, who believe he should have acted sooner to curb inflation. the sun has the latest revelations

in the wagatha christie libel case, picking up on barbed comments between coleen rooney and rebekah va rdy. the times says petrol retailers are being accused of profiteering after failing to pass on the whole of the recent cut in fuel duty. it also has an extraordinary photo of a ukrainian solder in the azovstal steel plant. let's begin, thank you both for taking the time this evening. let's start with the front page of the metro, and the headline reads, proud to say i'm gay." he's been held as an inspiration to but michael last one obviously being just and fastly. it's been a great story, and he's had a lot of support from everywhere, hasn't he? absolutely,

from current — everywhere, hasn't he? absolutely, from current footballers _ everywhere, hasn't he? absolutely, from current footballers like - everywhere, hasn't he? absolutely, from current footballers like harry l from current footballers like harry kane, the tottenham striker, and former players — you contrast the front page of the metro and some other papers with that one, from the last time a player came out as gay and was considered to be an outcast by some in the football world, and sadly in his own community. what's remarkable about this is his age and the fact that he's at the start of his career. he's only 17 years old so this is clearly a generational thing. the stigma around being gay is not now, in 2022, what it was in 1990, particularly in the football world which obviously, because of the culture back in the day and the football followers and fans, who have always been extremely hostile to even the merest hint that a player may be gay — i remember the

days when grandma was so was accused of being gay because he read the guardian. so he says he's sick and tired of living a lie, he wants to come out and help out other people. and the vast majority of the responses that i've seen on social media and elsewhere have been overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what ou overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what you think _ overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what you think it's _ overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what you think it's taken _ overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what you think it's taken this - overwhelmingly supportive. digby, what you think it's taken this long, j what you think it's taken this long, 32 years, for someone to come out as gay after the last time? good evenin: , gay after the last time? good evening, henry! _ gay after the last time? good evening, henry! young - gay after the last time? good evening, henry! young goodl gay after the last time? good i evening, henry! young good to gay after the last time? good evening, henry! young good to see you. evening, henry! young good to see you it's _ evening, henry! young good to see you. it's interesting to note, it's not as_ you. it's interesting to note, it's not as if— you. it's interesting to note, it's not as if 32— you. it's interesting to note, it's not as if 32 years ago, there were loads_ not as if 32 years ago, there were loads of— not as if 32 years ago, there were loads of people. he was on his own, he was a _ loads of people. he was on his own, he was a loner in a very bigoted and threatening — he was a loner in a very bigoted and threatening anti—gay game, especially in the supporting part of it. especially in the supporting part of it i'm _ especially in the supporting part of it i'm not— especially in the supporting part of it. i'm not too sure the players would — it. i'm not too sure the players would have _ it. i'm not too sure the players would have been the same, but it was

very much— would have been the same, but it was very much the herd instinct in the fans _ very much the herd instinct in the fans that's— very much the herd instinct in the fans. that's why it's taken so long that, as _ fans. that's why it's taken so long that, as henry put it very well, the essential— that, as henry put it very well, the essential profile of a typical football supporter typically would've given anyone who came out and incredibly hard time. what worries— and incredibly hard time. what worries me a little bit about this, and i_ worries me a little bit about this, and i applaud jake daniels completely, good on him, it's a generational thing and he's very brave _ generational thing and he's very brave - — generational thing and he's very brave - but _ generational thing and he's very brave — but what he has to do is run out on _ brave — but what he has to do is run out on the _ brave — but what he has to do is run out on the tunnel at 3pm on a saturday— out on the tunnel at 3pm on a saturday and it would be wonderful and if _ saturday and it would be wonderful and if the _ saturday and it would be wonderful and if the crowd just stood up and gave _ and if the crowd just stood up and gave the — and if the crowd just stood up and gave the man a massive standing ovation — gave the man a massive standing ovation. that would clinch this and it would _ ovation. that would clinch this and it would remove any stigma forever. and i_ it would remove any stigma forever. and i think— it would remove any stigma forever. and i think society has moved on,

the media — and i think society has moved on, the media has moved on, and i hope that the _ the media has moved on, and i hope that the football crowds have moved on the _ that the football crowds have moved on. the industry has moved on without— on. the industry has moved on without a — on. the industry has moved on without a doubt, the players will not he _ without a doubt, the players will not he in — without a doubt, the players will not be in the same mindset as they were _ not be in the same mindset as they were 32— not be in the same mindset as they were 32 years ago. but it's about the crowd, — were 32 years ago. but it's about the crowd, actually, and it's about the crowd, actually, and it's about the horrible — the crowd, actually, and it's about the horrible people who will be in their addicts giving this guy a hard time on _ their addicts giving this guy a hard time on social media, it's not that they didn't — time on social media, it's not that they didn't exist 32 years ago, of course, — they didn't exist 32 years ago, of course, and _ they didn't exist 32 years ago, of course, and i hope the massive majority— course, and i hope the massive majority of social media participants will give the sky an absolute — participants will give the sky an absolute stat a standing ovation both metaphorically and 3pm on saturday — both metaphorically and 3pm on saturday. go both metaphorically and 3pm on saturda . . . , both metaphorically and 3pm on saturday-— l i both metaphorically and 3pm on - saturday._ i suspect saturday. go ahead, henry. i suspect a lot of peeple _ saturday. go ahead, henry. i suspect a lot of peeple in _ saturday. go ahead, henry. i suspect a lot of people in the _ saturday. go ahead, henry. i suspect a lot of people in the gate _ a lot of people in the gate community will be hoping he plays really, really well, because sadly history shows that when you are a footballer, and you can look at the black players in the early 1970s and

80s, the moment you make a mistake, people pelt those things as why you missed a penalty or missed a header. people look for chinks in your armour. and even though, we are both being very positive about this in several newspapers have been, you can be sure that his social media and in the stands, if he misses a penalty or if he didn't play very well, this will be the first thing they target, and that's what he needs to be very robust and play really well. extra pressure on him but it sounds like he's made of strong stuff. if i but it sounds like he's made of strong stuff-— but it sounds like he's made of strong stuff. if i may “ust add to that - remember, _ strong stuff. if i may “ust add to that - remember, if_ strong stuff. if i mayjust add to that - remember, if they - strong stuff. if i mayjust add to that - remember, if they really| strong stuff. if i mayjust add to i that - remember, if they really go that — remember, if they really go for him. _ that — remember, if they really go for him. it— that — remember, if they really go for him. it is— that — remember, if they really go for him, it is a criminal offence. this— for him, it is a criminal offence. this is— for him, it is a criminal offence. this is an — for him, it is a criminal offence. this is an as— for him, it is a criminal offence. this is an as it was 32 years ago, nor five — this is an as it was 32 years ago, nor five years ago —— this isn't as it was _ nor five years ago —— this isn't as it was and — nor five years ago —— this isn't as it was and if— nor five years ago —— this isn't as it was. and if they create homophobic atmospheres they can be pinpointed and shown to be aimed at him because he is gay, then that is an offence —

him because he is gay, then that is an offence. it him because he is gay, then that is an offence-— an offence. it could be, but remember— an offence. it could be, but remember on the - an offence. it could be, but remember on the front - an offence. it could be, butl remember on the front page an offence. it could be, but- remember on the front page of today's the times, the new chief inspector of the constabulary has warned the 43 constabulary is of england and wales that they are not the thought police. so there's some distance to travel between indicating that you are not happy, whether it's about someone's sexuality or whatever, and actually committing an offence.— sexuality or whatever, and actually committing an offence. sure, henry, as in everything _ committing an offence. sure, henry, as in everything that _ committing an offence. sure, henry, as in everything that we've _ committing an offence. sure, henry, as in everything that we've talked . as in everything that we've talked about— as in everything that we've talked about on— as in everything that we've talked about on this programme, there is a happy— about on this programme, there is a happy medium. and i want my policeman out there catching criminals, i don't want them interpreting what people think. that's— interpreting what people think. that's what the inspector of the constabulary was trying to get across — constabulary was trying to get across. but if somebody is overtly homophobic, that's not about what they think. — homophobic, that's not about what they think, it's about what they do.

and in_ they think, it's about what they do. and in that — they think, it's about what they do. and in that respect, i thinkjake daniels— and in that respect, i thinkjake daniels needs all the support of the law. daniels needs all the support of the law the _ daniels needs all the support of the law. the other thing that i hope will happen is that he won't be the last one _ will happen is that he won't be the last one. statistically there are bound — last one. statistically there are bound to — last one. statistically there are bound to be many, many gay footballers in the 4—5 leagues of the professional football community. statistically there is bound to be, so i'd _ statistically there is bound to be, so i'd love — statistically there is bound to be, so i'd love to think this will give them _ so i'd love to think this will give them the — so i'd love to think this will give them the courage to do it as well. and once — them the courage to do it as well. and once you get the numbers and it's quite _ and once you get the numbers and it's quite normal and ordinary, all the novelty— it's quite normal and ordinary, all the novelty will go away and everybody can get back to playing football — everybody can get back to playing football. �* , ., ., ., ., football. let's move onto the front .ae. football. let's move onto the front -a~e of football. let's move onto the front page of guardian _ football. let's move onto the front page of guardian and _ football. let's move onto the front page of guardian and a _ football. let's move onto the front page of guardian and a few- football. let's move onto the front page of guardian and a few other | page of guardian and a few other pages, as well. "bank chief's warning over apocalyptic food prices." the bank of england governor is blaming the war in ukraine for the highest inflation we've seen in england for three

decades and has warned about these food prices which, in part, are caused by a rush of�*s invasion of ukraine which impacted people across the world but also in the uk —— russia's invasion. he's been getting a few comments from tory mps in the last few days, hasn't he?— last few days, hasn't he? that's riaht, last few days, hasn't he? that's right. because _ last few days, hasn't he? that's right, because they _ last few days, hasn't he? that's right, because they feel - last few days, hasn't he? that's right, because they feel he's . last few days, hasn't he? that's i right, because they feel he's been asleep at the wheel. yes, the bank of england has been independent for the last 25 years, but it doesn't stop noises off especially from those conservative mps who like to see low taxes, no inflation — remember margaret thatcher said that inflation was going to be their judge and jury. and they think he should have acted earlier to raise interest rates, 1% is still historically low if you consider the 300 years of the existence of the bank of england. let's also remember

that there are global influences, global factors, that there are global influences, globalfactors, and andrew that there are global influences, global factors, and andrew bailey is saying they couldn't have predicted the war in ukraine, look at the grain and oil prices, etc. but that won't satisfy a lot of tory mps who feel they should have acted earlier. he's calling them not quite captain hindsight, but he did see these remarks, with hindsight, yes, they could have acted earlier. "but i feel powerless to stop inflation rising above 10%," and that seems to be where we are heading. so we will get raised interest rates but it's notjust get raised interest rates but it's not just down to get raised interest rates but it's notjust down to us, basically. digby? notjust down to us, basically. diub ? ~ �* ., notjust down to us, basically. diub? �* .,., ~, notjust down to us, basically. diub? �* ., ., ~, . digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- — digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- tory _ digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- tory mps, _ digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- tory mps, but _ digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- tory mps, but i _ digby? well, i'm no tori mps, thanks heavens -- tory mps, but i say - heavens —— tory mps, but i say everyone — heavens —— tory mps, but i say everyone criticising him for not doing _ everyone criticising him for not doing anything earlier, they've been doing _ doing anything earlier, they've been doing what's called quantitative easing, — doing what's called quantitative easing, and one of the other newspapers tonight carried this is one of— newspapers tonight carried this is one of the — newspapers tonight carried this is one of the comments — that

quantitive easing, you and i will call it— quantitive easing, you and i will call it printing money, for years since _ call it printing money, for years since the — call it printing money, for years since the financial crisis of 2008, on that— since the financial crisis of 2008, on that basis, if you carry on printing _ on that basis, if you carry on printing money, you do induce inflation — printing money, you do induce inflation into the economy because the typical and ordinary law of supply— the typical and ordinary law of supply and demand. people can try and buy— supply and demand. people can try and buy things with that, therefore prices _ and buy things with that, therefore prices go _ and buy things with that, therefore prices go up. so that's something they could — prices go up. so that's something they could have done. secondly, of course _ they could have done. secondly, of course the — they could have done. secondly, of course, the nation has been weaned on to— course, the nation has been weaned on to low— course, the nation has been weaned on to low inflation. the margaret thatcher— on to low inflation. the margaret thatcher war against inflation was one, _ thatcher war against inflation was one, gordon brown, ken clark, george osborne _ one, gordon brown, ken clark, george osborne basically regardless of their— osborne basically regardless of their political affinity put sound money — their political affinity put sound money first. and the resilience of the british— money first. and the resilience of the british economy right now, which it is, very— the british economy right now, which it is, very low— the british economy right now, which it is, very low unemployment, being able to— it is, very low unemployment, being able to continue is the cost of

living — able to continue is the cost of living crisis? you bet there is. but the resilience of the economy, the structural— the resilience of the economy, the structural strength of the economy is there _ structural strength of the economy is there for— structural strength of the economy is there for us to see. now all that means— is there for us to see. now all that means there's some confidence to be given— means there's some confidence to be given to _ means there's some confidence to be given to people. i'm pretty disappointed, actually, in the governor— disappointed, actually, in the governor today because i would've thought _ governor today because i would've thought the performance in front of the select— thought the performance in front of the select committee could have been far more _ the select committee could have been far more full of leadership. it's almost wimpy, isn't it? "it's not my fault, _ almost wimpy, isn't it? "it's not my fault, teacher, i can't help if ukraine _ fault, teacher, ican't help if ukraine is— fault, teacher, i can't help if ukraine is gone and raised the price of wheat" — ukraine is gone and raised the price of wheat." but ukraine is gone and raised the price of wheat." �* ukraine is gone and raised the price of wheat.“ �* , , �* of wheat." but in saying this, isn't he merely — of wheat." but in saying this, isn't he merely echoing _ of wheat." but in saying this, isn't he merely echoing what _ of wheat." but in saying this, isn't he merely echoing what other - he merely echoing what other political leaders have been saying? because boris johnson political leaders have been saying? because borisjohnson is constantly saying these are matters beyond their control... saying these are matters beyond their control. . ._ saying these are matters beyond their control... henry, not only are ou riaht their control... henry, not only are you right in — their control... henry, not only are you right in saying _ their control... henry, not only are you right in saying that, _ their control... henry, not only are you right in saying that, but - their control... henry, not only are you right in saying that, but i'm - you right in saying that, but i'm not saying — you right in saying that, but i'm not saying the governor of the bank of england — not saying the governor of the bank of england is wrong and politicians are wrong — of england is wrong and politicians

are wrong. the fact that the letter putin _ are wrong. the fact that the letter putin has— are wrong. the fact that the letter putin has a — are wrong. the fact that the letter putin has a war in ukraine rises the price _ putin has a war in ukraine rises the price of— putin has a war in ukraine rises the price of wheat. fine, it is right that— price of wheat. fine, it is right that that — price of wheat. fine, it is right that that is _ price of wheat. fine, it is right that that is mentioned. but to call it apoplectic food price increases puts the — it apoplectic food price increases puts the fear of god and the people. that's— puts the fear of god and the people. that's not— puts the fear of god and the people. that's not what quality leadership should _ that's not what quality leadership should be — that's not what quality leadership should be at this time. but that's not what quality leadership should be at this time.— that's not what quality leadership should be at this time. but what is ou do as should be at this time. but what is you do as a _ should be at this time. but what is you do as a result _ should be at this time. but what is you do as a result of— should be at this time. but what is you do as a result of this - should be at this time. but what is| you do as a result of this pressure? he seems to indicate that he'll raise interest rates to the point where we see a recession —— but what do you do? it's a price worth paying to get the sound money you talk about — that will mean another set of victims, people who borrowed at their limit and who may not have fixed rates at the right time will be feeling the pinch, and lots of other people too. but be feeling the pinch, and lots of other people too.— be feeling the pinch, and lots of other people too. but the point is, hen , other people too. but the point is, henry. you —

other people too. but the point is, henry. you and — other people too. but the point is, henry. you and l — other people too. but the point is, henry, you and i are _ other people too. but the point is, henry, you and i are of— other people too. but the point is, henry, you and i are of an - other people too. but the point is, henry, you and i are of an age - henry, you and i are of an age where we remember it. when interest rates were at— we remember it. when interest rates were at 10%— we remember it. when interest rates were at 10% and you can put them up were at10% and you can put them up 2-4% to— were at 10% and you can put them up 2—4% to achieve what you just said, shrink the _ 2—4% to achieve what you just said, shrink the money supply, down come prices _ shrink the money supply, down come prices - _ shrink the money supply, down come prices - it's _ shrink the money supply, down come prices — it's painful and recession inducing. — prices — it's painful and recession inducing, but he's got historically low interest rates. he could double interest _ low interest rates. he could double interest rates, double them. you won't _ interest rates, double them. you won't create a recession... if interest— won't create a recession... if interest rates are 2%. nor will you choke _ interest rates are 2%. nor will you choke off— interest rates are 2%. nor will you choke off the money supply with the interest— choke off the money supply with the interest rates at 2%. it's because they— interest rates at 2%. it's because they are — interest rates at 2%. it's because they are so — interest rates at 2%. it's because they are so low, and that is not ammunition in his locker that he'll be able _ ammunition in his locker that he'll be able to— ammunition in his locker that he'll be able to use successfully. in ammunition in his locker that he'll be able to use successfully.- be able to use successfully. in the da s be able to use successfully. in the days where _ be able to use successfully. in the days where tax — be able to use successfully. in the days where tax rate _ be able to use successfully. in the days where tax rate heights - be able to use successfully. in the i days where tax rate heights would be viable, people were not borrowing that much. nowadays you people are borrowing £500,000 on a salary of

maybe 50—60,000. they are borrowing huge amounts of money. so an uptick of point 5—1%, even on a tracker, is a huge increase per month that they'll have to find. i a huge increase per month that they'll have to find.— they'll have to find. i take that oint. they'll have to find. i take that point- let's — they'll have to find. i take that point. let's move _ they'll have to find. i take that point. let's move on - they'll have to find. i take that point. let's move on to - they'll have to find. i take that point. let's move on to the i they'll have to find. i take that - point. let's move on to the times, stickin: point. let's move on to the times, sticking with _ point. let's move on to the times, sticking with these _ point. let's move on to the times, sticking with these high _ point. let's move on to the times, sticking with these high prices- - point. let's move on to the times, sticking with these high prices- not sticking with these high prices— not of food, but of petrol. there being accused of profiteering from the energy crisis after research has found that nearly half —— they failed to pass on rishi sunak�*s tax cut. motorists have been suffering at the pumps, haven't they? i cut. motorists have been suffering at the pumps, haven't they? i have a h brid at the pumps, haven't they? i have a hybrid mitsubishi, _ at the pumps, haven't they? i have a hybrid mitsubishi, people's _ at the pumps, haven't they? i have a hybrid mitsubishi, people's hybrid i hybrid mitsubishi, people's hybrid of choice, but i still use petrol. hybrids are available?-

of choice, but i still use petrol. hybrids are available?