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of the people and the sunday mirror. tomorrow's front pages. starting with. .. the observer leads with partygate and the imminent sue gray report — claiming that the prime minister is expected to "sacrifice" the head of the civil service, simon case, when it is released. the conservatives are threatening an attack on transport and education unions — that's according the sunday telegraph, which says the government is poised to draw up laws requiring minimum numbers to work during a strike. the sunday times�* front page investigation says an nhs ambulance trust has been caught covering up evidence about deaths linked to mistakes made by paramedics. one to one help for all pupils — that's the education secretary's pledge on the front of the sunday express. the mail on sunday says the rwanda asylum plan is working — claiming that up to ten migrants have asked to be sent home, rather than to centres in africa. it's wagatha christie on the front of the sunday mirror — featuring a confident statement
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from coleen rooney, saying "it's in the bag". and the daily star's sunday edition shows a picture of a russian attack dog who was rescued by ukrainian soldiers and trained to work for them instead. so let's begin... well, let's start first of all with the observer, which has the headline, pm to sacrifice a top official over partygate to save himself. if we start with you, jo, first of all. isn't the whole point that if there's any kind of criticism of the partygate shouldn't it be borisjohnson? there's no one else who can really take the fall really than the prime minister himself? ~ , ., ., ~' really than the prime minister himself? ~ , ., ., ~ himself? well you would think so, wouldn't that _ himself? well you would think so, wouldn't that would _ himself? well you would think so, wouldn't that would be _ himself? well you would think so, wouldn't that would be the - himself? well you would think so, wouldn't that would be the same i wouldn't that would be the same anywhere else that you and i have worked, luxmy there's an awful lot of speculation about what's going to be in the sue gray report which was delayed while the met did their
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investigation which resulted in the prime minister being issued with a fixed penalty notice. simon case is the cabinet secretary and top civil servant. it was the person who sent out an invitation to one of the parties and actually resigned or recused himself from doing the investigation which sue gray then took over. if his head was to roll either by resignation or by sacking it would be rather weird to think that here is somebody who has not been fined but presumably has been investigated by the met, loses his job, but the prime minister stays in position. you know, ithink job, but the prime minister stays in position. you know, i think we have to wait and see what comes out in the sue gray report. i suspect that borisjohnson probably the sue gray report. i suspect that boris johnson probably will get away with this, but it will be the cost of living crisis that is his undoing. of living crisis that is his undoing-— of living crisis that is his undoing. of living crisis that is his undoinu. ~ ., , g ., undoing. well, nigel, as jo mentioned, _ undoing. well, nigel, as jo mentioned, the _ undoing. well, nigel, as jo mentioned, the sue - undoing. well, nigel, as jo mentioned, the sue gray i undoing. well, nigel, as jo - mentioned, the sue gray report is increasingly imminent and what the
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papers say is that the report itself is likely to be more damaging to johnson than the fine given. do you think that's likely? we did see a bit of a glimpse of what's in the report earlier in the year, didn't we? , ., �* , we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the reort we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the report will— we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the report will be _ we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the report will be more _ we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the report will be more damaging. - we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the report will be more damaging. i. we? yes, we did, and i'm sure the i report will be more damaging. ijust think that _ report will be more damaging. ijust think that we've passed the peak danger— think that we've passed the peak danger period for boris johnson. think that we've passed the peak danger period for borisjohnson. i mean, _ danger period for borisjohnson. i mean. it— danger period for borisjohnson. i mean, it was david cameron who described — mean, it was david cameron who described him as rather like a greased — described him as rather like a greased piglet, he always slipped out of— greased piglet, he always slipped out of your hands and got away and i think— out of your hands and got away and i think this _ out of your hands and got away and i think this is — out of your hands and got away and i think this is the case here. that uniess— think this is the case here. that unless there is something really devastating in the report that we don't _ devastating in the report that we don't know about, i think that boris johnson _ don't know about, i think that boris johnson is — don't know about, i think that boris johnson is safe for the time being. the big _ johnson is safe for the time being. the big problem he is really facing is amongst conservative mps who held their noses, _ is amongst conservative mps who held their noses, voted for him to be leader— their noses, voted for him to be leader because they thought he was a vote winner— leader because they thought he was a vote winner and now they are beginning to suspect he might be a vote loser— beginning to suspect he might be a vote loser and obviously what would
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be a vote loser and obviously what would he a big _ vote loser and obviously what would be a big test for him in the forthcoming by—elections next month in wakefield, which could easily go labour, _ in wakefield, which could easily go labour, and in honiton and tiverton, which _ labour, and in honiton and tiverton, which may— labour, and in honiton and tiverton, which may well go liberal democrat and i which may well go liberal democrat and i think— which may well go liberal democrat and i think the tory mps, especially in lih— and i think the tory mps, especially in lib dem — and i think the tory mps, especially in lib dem facing seats, your traditional tory wealthy areas, they are the _ traditional tory wealthy areas, they are the ones most worried because its traditional tory supporters who are nrost— its traditional tory supporters who are most upset about partygate and the rule _ are most upset about partygate and the rule breaking. if we are most upset about partygate and the rule breaking.— the rule breaking. if we look at the sunday telegraph, _ the rule breaking. if we look at the sunday telegraph, at _ the rule breaking. if we look at the sunday telegraph, at what - the rule breaking. if we look at the sunday telegraph, at what be - the rule breaking. if we look at the sunday telegraph, at what be on l sunday telegraph, at what be on voters' mines, no one likes train strikes, train strikes aren't something that particular popular, something that particular popular, so what the sunday telegraph is saying is the tories threatened to torpedo unions, they are threatening torpedo unions, they are threatening to break the stranglehold on transport and education, according to conservative ministers. is this something that seems like a fairly easy winner for them,
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something that seems like a fairly easy winnerfor them, jo? something that seems like a fairly easy winner for them, jo?- easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a _ easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a threat _ easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a threat of— easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a threat of a _ easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a threat of a major- easy winner for them, jo? well, there is a threat of a major raill there is a threat of a major rail strike next month. i think the ballot for strike action closes on tuesday and the rmt, the main transport union, have said that they will paralyse the country's rail network, which wouldn'tjust be passenger transport, network, which wouldn'tjust be passengertransport, it network, which wouldn'tjust be passenger transport, it would be freight transport as well, so grant shapps, the transport secretary, alongside nadhim zahawi, the education secretary, they both want to have a crackdown on what they say are two areas, education and transport, where they say unions have got a stranglehold. now, that previous tory government in 2016 brought in a whole load of legislation which had to be quite amended after heavy defeats in the lords. union activity is very, very restricted now to how it was in the 70s and 805, and restricted now to how it was in the 705 and 805, and we don't very often
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see 5trike5 705 and 805, and we don't very often see strikes that paralyse. i mean, i 5ee strikes that paralyse. i mean, i know in london there was a tube strike earlier this year which brought ab5olute chao5 strike earlier this year which brought ab5olute chaos to the capital, but i think as nigel 5aid capital, but i think as nigel said an hour ago, capital, but i think as nigel said an hourago, if capital, but i think as nigel said an hour ago, if you take away the right to strike, what have working people got left if they can't get anywhere on negotiation? i think although this is a sort of rhetoric that the sunday telegraph, where grant shapp5 has chosen to make it public if you like, that sort of audience that will applaud this, i think there will be quite a lot of people who are thinking, actually, my bills are going up, i'm struggling to feed the family, heat the house, keep on top of everything, and my wages aren't going up, so if you take away that sort of union collective action it makes people even more powerle55. nigel, one of the things that the article mentions i5 nigel, one of the things that the article mentions is a government source saying actually the unions do have to tread carefully because this will actually, they will end up
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shooting themselves in the foot and putting members of the public off train travel altogether will stop do you think there is a logic in that? actually a lot of people use the train not because they choose to, but because they have to. i train not because they choose to, but because they have to.- train not because they choose to, but because they have to. i use the train. i've noticed _ but because they have to. i use the train. i've noticed since _ but because they have to. i use the train. i've noticed since we - but because they have to. i use the train. i've noticed since we came i train. i've noticed since we came out of— train. i've noticed since we came out of the — train. i've noticed since we came out of the pandemic certainly the number— out of the pandemic certainly the number of— out of the pandemic certainly the number of passengers on there are an awful lot _ number of passengers on there are an awful lot reduced from three pandemic times, so, yes, ithink there _ pandemic times, so, yes, ithink there is— pandemic times, so, yes, ithink there is some truth in that. what i do think— there is some truth in that. what i do think is— there is some truth in that. what i do think is going on here is that the conservatives are trying very hard _ the conservatives are trying very hard to _ the conservatives are trying very hard to find some kind of election winning _ hard to find some kind of election winning policies that differentiate them _ winning policies that differentiate them from anywhere else. i mean, boris _ them from anywhere else. i mean, borisjohnson has no real political philosophy or direction, so they are looking _ philosophy or direction, so they are looking at— philosophy or direction, so they are looking at that. you've got a new deputy— looking at that. you've got a new deputy chief of staff in number ten, david _ deputy chief of staff in number ten, david cameron deeney, who is certainly— david cameron deeney, who is certainly pushing this idea that the tories _ certainly pushing this idea that the tories must come up with things that will win— tories must come up with things that will win the _ tories must come up with things that will win the next election which could _ will win the next election which could come as soon as the end of
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next _ could come as soon as the end of next year. — could come as soon as the end of next year, so i can see this idea about— next year, so i can see this idea about taking on the unions as being one of— about taking on the unions as being one of the _ about taking on the unions as being one of the kind of store warts of tory _ one of the kind of store warts of tory policy — one of the kind of store warts of tory policy in the past being brought— tory policy in the past being brought back and getting tough with the unions is obviously really popular— the unions is obviously really popular with a load of people, especially in this case, commuters. if especially in this case, commuters. if we _ especially in this case, commuters. if we go— especially in this case, commuters. if we go on— especially in this case, commuters. if we go on to the sunday times now and the article that is entitled sue nack and the article that is entitled sue mack and johnson clash over how to spend windfall tax. is there anything those two can agree on any more? i anything those two can agree on any more? ., �* ~ ., , , anything those two can agree on any more? ., �* ~ ., , more? i don't know stop there is a very doomed _ more? i don't know stop there is a very doomed neighbourly - more? i don't know stop there is a i very doomed neighbourly relationship there, between those two houses in downing street. how to spend windfall tax, they haven't agreed to impose a windfall tax yet and it seems as though by all accounts that the cabinet is quite split on whether there should be a windfall tax. labour have called for it for a very long time. this is a windfall tax, a one off micro tax on the
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walloping profits the energy companies have made over the last year which would go some way to help ease the burden on consumers, who are paying massive energy prices. what boris johnson are paying massive energy prices. what borisjohnson wants is if this is brought in he wants to see that money used specifically for energy targets, infrastructure targets if you like, like nuclear power stations, offshore wind farms, that sort of thing. rishi sunak i think is yet to be persuaded. and there are voices within the conservative party, within the cabinet, saying it's not conservative. but i think for many, many people who are really struggling it's hard to see why you wouldn't go ahead and do something on these billions and billions of unexpected profits that are not being passed on to consumers in terms of cheaper energy or cheaper
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fuel. ., , �* fuel. nigel, it doesn'ti geologically _ fuel. nigel, it doesn't i i geologically conservative, fuel. nigel, it doesn't i - geologically conservative, is it? fuel. nigel, it doesn't i _ geologically conservative, is it? is it something they can overcome for the sake of tackling the cost of living crisis? i the sake of tackling the cost of living crisis?— the sake of tackling the cost of living crisis? i think they might have to. you _ living crisis? i think they might have to. you are _ living crisis? i think they might have to. you are absolutely - living crisis? i think they might i have to. you are absolutely right, it's not _ have to. you are absolutely right, it's not conservative, which is why an awful_ it's not conservative, which is why an awful lot — it's not conservative, which is why an awful lot of cabinet ministers are against doing it, but you've got to work— are against doing it, but you've got to work out— are against doing it, but you've got to work out what is the lesser of the two — to work out what is the lesser of the two evils. that you either impose — the two evils. that you either impose a _ the two evils. that you either impose a tax on energy companies who have got— impose a tax on energy companies who have got vast profits with the increase _ have got vast profits with the increase in oil prices, so even the energy— increase in oil prices, so even the energy companies themselves say they are actually awash with money so they could — are actually awash with money so they could afford to pay this tax. the question obviously is to make sure that — the question obviously is to make sure that they would be prepared to continue _ sure that they would be prepared to continue to— sure that they would be prepared to continue to invest in the british economy— continue to invest in the british economy having done so. but the money— economy having done so. but the money has — economy having done so. but the money has to come from somewhere. the cost _ money has to come from somewhere. the cost of— money has to come from somewhere. the cost of living crisis is by far the biggest issue and certainly the biggest _ the biggest issue and certainly the biggest electoral issue. if we are
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only 17_ biggest electoral issue. if we are only 17 months away from the election. _ only 17 months away from the election, rishi sunak knows he must do something fairly swiftly to do something with the cost of living crisis _ something with the cost of living crisis this — something with the cost of living crisis. this would be an easy source of money— crisis. this would be an easy source of money for— crisis. this would be an easy source of money for him. i think ideology should _ of money for him. i think ideology should go— of money for him. i think ideology should go out the window to help people _ should go out the window to help people with their energy bills. sticking — people with their energy bills. sticking with you, nigel, looking at politics over in australia now, we want to talk about the election result and the fact that australia now has a labour prime minister for the first time in about a decade. how much of a political earthquake do you think this is? it how much of a political earthquake do you think this is?— how much of a political earthquake do you think this is? it seems to be hue. do you think this is? it seems to be huge- when — do you think this is? it seems to be huge- when the _ do you think this is? it seems to be huge. when the final _ do you think this is? it seems to be huge. when the final result - do you think this is? it seems to be huge. when the final result is - do you think this is? it seems to be l huge. when the final result is known tomorrow. _ huge. when the final result is known tomorrow, obviously there is the question— tomorrow, obviously there is the question whether anthony albanese will be _ question whether anthony albanese will be able to govern without a coalition, — will be able to govern without a coalition, orwhether will be able to govern without a coalition, or whether he will need to go— coalition, or whether he will need to go into — coalition, or whether he will need to go into coalition with independents or perhaps the green party _ independents or perhaps the green party the — independents or perhaps the green party. the most interesting here is this is— party. the most interesting here is this is the — party. the most interesting here is this is the climate change election, this is the climate change election, this is— this is the climate change election, this is the — this is the climate change election, this is the thing that scott morrison lost over. it was
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environmental independence who captured — environmental independence who captured liberal seats. so it is big simply— captured liberal seats. so it is big simply because climate change seems to have _ simply because climate change seems to have been the biggest issue. it's not the _ to have been the biggest issue. it's not the biggest issue over here, but in australia — not the biggest issue over here, but in australia clearly it is and we do wonder— in australia clearly it is and we do wonder how many other parts of the world _ wonder how many other parts of the world might go the same way. jo, a ruick world might go the same way. jo, a quick comment _ world might go the same way. jo, a quick comment from _ world might go the same way. jo, a quick comment from you _ world might go the same way. irr, a. quick comment from you about the character of albanese, who made quite a thing about his background, didn't he? , , , , . didn't he? yes, he did, his speech toda , didn't he? yes, he did, his speech today. talked _ didn't he? yes, he did, his speech today, talked about _ didn't he? yes, he did, his speech today, talked about living - didn't he? yes, he did, his speech today, talked about living in - didn't he? yes, he did, his speechi today, talked about living in public housing, council housing if you like as we would call it here and the fact that his mum was disabled and was on disability benefits. he's obviously had a tough life. he's been around for a while and i think there was some sense in previous years that he was a bit too rough and ready to ever rise to this sort
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of level, but clearly he has resonated. i think scott morrison, perhaps people have got a bit tired of it. i think, you know, perhaps people have got a bit tired of it. ithink, you know, maybe people are looking for different sorts of leaders. we've had the big, charismatic figures if you like from donald trump to borisjohnson and across europe as well, maybe there is a sense that people actually really need to talk about climate. it was independence who targeted seats and focused on climate change that have given albanese his victory so let's see what he delivers. absolutely, we will see how the government is formed, whether it's a minority or majority government. thank you both, jo and nigel, for your time. that's it from us for the papers this evening. next, it's time for the film review here on bbc news.
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hi. welcome to the film review on bbc news. and to take us through it this week, as always, the cinema releases, mark kermode is here. hello. what have you got for us this week? very interesting release, we have benediction, which is the new film by terrence davies. we have emergency, the tag line which is, "it's not what it looks like." and it isn't. and we have the innocents, which is a really eerie chiller. so, let's start with benediction, tell us about it. so this is the latest film from terrence davies. terrence davies, i think is a great poet of cinema. he's made films like distanct voices, still lives, long day closes, sunset song. i've always been a fan of his work. this is a film about siegfried sassoon, the war poet, played in his young years byjack lowden. he was a military hero
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during the first world war, he got the military cross for conspicuous gallantry. and then he famously wrote a soldiers declaration, which was published in the press and read in the house of commons, in which he accused his superiors of turning a war of defence and liberation into one of aggression and conquest. here's a clip. i wanted to state my position regarding the conduct of the war. it is not your place to question how the war is being prosecuted. - your duty lies in obeying orders. duty? that word covers a multitude of sins. in the face of such slaughter one cannot simply order one's conscience. one can do better than that, one can ignore it. _ that reply was so disgraceful you ought to be in politics. that was impertinent, lieutenant. are you pro—german? no, i'm pro—human.
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