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welcome to newsday. reporting live from singapore, i'm karishma vaswani. the headlines of the governor of texas says of the gunman has shot dead 1a students at a primary school in the united states. this is the scene live in the city, where we'll have the latest on the stories. the faces of thousands of members of the uighur community in china — the bbc obtain packed files. —— hacked stucco though i was looking through these
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-- hacked stucco though i was looking through these images, and i took a break... _ looking through these images, and i took a break... i— looking through these images, and i took a break... i was _ looking through these images, and i took a break... i was overwhelmed. | took a break... i was overwhelmed. and in the uk, there once again fresh calls for borisjohnson to resign as new photos emerge of gatherings going on inside downing street during lockdown. live from our studio in singapore... this is bbc news. it's newsday. let's start with some breaking news for you at this hour. a gunman has shot dead at least 14 students and a teacher at a primary school in the us state of texas. the governor greta abbott says the attacker was 18 years old —— greg abbott, who said there was believed to be killed by officers. the shooting was in the city of you all the. the assailant
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was thought to have a handgun and possibly a rifle. the president will be briefed regularly. we are getting reports that he is do to make a statement very soon. greg abbott, has been updating media in the last. the shooter was in salvador ramos. he entered into the elementary school in uvalde with a handgun and possibly a rifle, that but that is not confirmed. he shot and killed horrifically 14 students and killed us teacher. mr ramos, he himself is
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deceased. it is believed that responding officers killed him. it appears that two responding officers were struck by rounds but had no serious injuries. in addition to that, it is being reported that the subject shot his grandmother right before he went into the school. and there is... i have no further information about the connection between those two shootings, and the subject is reported to be a student, to have been a student at uvalde high school and is a us citizen. studio: we can take you to some life pictures now that show you the scene at the robb elementary school in the city of uvalde, 135 km west of san antonio, to remind you what has happened. this tragedy with a gunman that was shot dead, 1a students in a
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teacher at that primary school. as you heard from mr abbott, the attacker has been identified as the 18—year—old salvador ramos, and he was shot dead at the scene. we are also seeing from the white house that presidentjoe biden ordered us flags should be flown at half staff and other public buildings as a mark of respect. we can speak now to our correspondent david willis. he has been covering this story for us in looking into the latest developments. awful tragedy that we're seeing. what can you tell us about the latest?— we're seeing. what can you tell us about the latest? well, the details are re about the latest? well, the details are pretty much — about the latest? well, the details are pretty much of _ about the latest? well, the details are pretty much of use _ about the latest? well, the details are pretty much of use of- about the latest? well, the details are pretty much of use of them - about the latest? well, the details| are pretty much of use of them up. terribly sad day in the united states. this coming just over a week after an 18—year—old white supremacist shot dead ten people and
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injured 30 in buffalo, new york —— injured 30 in buffalo, new york —— injured three. the following day, a taiwanese church congregation was attacked by an ethnic chinese person who'd been living here in the united states. within the last hour, we heard from senator chris murphy, speaking on the floor of the senate. he's a democrat and his district includes the sandy hook high school, which was the scene of the worst school mass shooting in american history. chris murphy said, "our heart is breaking for the families of those involved." he appealed to his republican colleagues, saying we have to find a way to make this sort of thing less likely, charisma. terrible memories of those great memories we've seen before ——
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karishma. david, thank you so much for keeping us up—to—date. i want to bring you now some new information. a short time ago, the police chief of uvalde gave us this update. at of uvalde gave us this update. at approximately 11:32 a:m., there is a mass _ approximately 11:32 a:m., there is a mass casualty at robb elementary schooh _ mass casualty at robb elementary schooh i_ mass casualty at robb elementary school. i can't confirm right now we have _ school. i can't confirm right now we have several— school. i can't confirm right now we have several injuries, adults and students, — have several injuries, adults and students, and we do have some deaths — students, and we do have some deaths. the suspect is deceased at this point — deaths. the suspect is deceased at this point. at this point, the investigation is leading to tell us that the — investigation is leading to tell us that the suspect did act alone during — that the suspect did act alone during this heinous crime. families are being _ during this heinous crime. families are being notified and we are providing services to them as the district _ providing services to them as the district should. as far as the rest of the _ district should. as far as the rest of the district 's concern, measures were _ of the district 's concern, measures were taken— of the district 's concern, measures were taken to make sure we had a
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safe release for the rest of the district, — safe release for the rest of the district, and we had numerous law enforcement officers that assisted with the _ enforcement officers that assisted with the release of the students. we do want _ with the release of the students. we do want to— with the release of the students. we do want to keep all their families in our— do want to keep all their families in our prayers and we also want to respect the — in our prayers and we also want to respect the privacy of the family. the crime — respect the privacy of the family. the crime scene is still being worked — the crime scene is still being worked on and we will notify the parents — worked on and we will notify the parents and families as soon as we have _ parents and families as soon as we have hews— parents and families as soon as we have news fight that's the latest from _ have news fight that's the latest from the — have news fight that's the latest from the police chief. we can speak to laura _ from the police chief. we can speak to laura garcia, health care reporter _ to laura garcia, health care reporter at the san antonio express news _ reporter at the san antonio express news i_ reporter at the san antonio express news. i imagine it's a fluid situatioh _ news. i imagine it's a fluid situation. what's the latest you can tell us? a, situation. what's the latest you can tell us? �* ., ., ., situation. what's the latest you can tellus? ., ., ., ., tell us? a lot of what you have reconfirmed is _ tell us? a lot of what you have reconfirmed is what _ tell us? a lot of what you have reconfirmed is what we - tell us? a lot of what you have reconfirmed is what we have. l tell us? a lot of what you have i reconfirmed is what we have. we tell us? a lot of what you have - reconfirmed is what we have. we have reporters on the ground. they're at the scene and we're just trying to figure out what's happening. what we do know that there were two that were transferred to san antonio
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level one trauma facility at university hospital, and it is a 66—year—old woman and a ten—year—old girl currently in critical condition.— girl currently in critical condition. ., ., �* , ., condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor _ condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor of — condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor of texas _ condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor of texas and - condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor of texas and his - condition. laura, we're seeing that the governor of texas and his wife | the governor of texas and his wife have said they're morning this horrific loss and have urged the state of texas to come together. in your time reporting in san antonio, has the community ever seen anything like this? ., ., , like this? no. there have been several mass _ like this? no. there have been several mass casualties - like this? no. there have been several mass casualties across | like this? no. there have been - several mass casualties across the state, but texas is pretty large. the last one we saw was probably about an hour south of san antonio. i also understand that currently, the children who are at the robb elementary school have been taken to the in your life —— nearby civic
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centres with their families. it must be an awfully frightening experience and devastating experience for the families and the children involved. what can you tell us about the scene there? it what can you tell us about the scene there? . , what can you tell us about the scene there? ., , ., what can you tell us about the scene there? .,, ., , ,., there? it has to be. our reporter jacob there? it has to be. our reporter jacob said _ there? it has to be. our reporter jacob said there _ there? it has to be. our reporter jacob said there are _ there? it has to be. our reporter jacob said there are family - there? it has to be. our reporter- jacob said there are family members jacob said there are family members that are coming out, and we know there are about 600 students that attend that elementary school. what they said it is they believe the students who were killed were in the second, third and fourth grades. that means children aged between the age of 7—10? that means children aged between the are of7-10? ., �*, ., _, . age of 7-10? that's on correct -- sounds correct _ age of 7-10? that's on correct -- sounds correct to. _ age of 7-10? that's on correct -- sounds correct to. i _ age of 7-10? that's on correct -- sounds correct to. i know - age of 7-10? that's on correct -- sounds correct to. i know it's - age of 7-10? that's on correct -- l sounds correct to. i know it's early da s, but sounds correct to. i know it's early days. butjust _ sounds correct to. i know it's early days, butjust thinking _ sounds correct to. i know it's early days, butjust thinking about - days, but just thinking about what this community will be going through, how this has to bring back memories of what happened in 2012 at sandy hook, where 20 of the 26
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victims were aged between 5—6. it's a horrific experience for the united states to have to go through again. absolutely, it's almost surreal. we always have these situations, these mass casualty situations, these school shootings happening and reporters are always reporting on this and trying to tell the story. it's heartbreaking and frustrating. absolutely. i wonder, it's heartbreaking and frustrating. absolutely. iwonder, as it's heartbreaking and frustrating. absolutely. i wonder, as we're talking about this, we've also heard from the us senator chris murphy of candidate —— connecticut, and he was telling us about the fact that chris murphy has given an emotional speech in the senate asking what are we doing, why are you here if not to solve a problem as existential as this. when this keeps happening,
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what's the thinking in the minds of the politicians around the country? it's really hard to answer. i'm not sure. it's frustrating. we keep reporting this story and keep pressing our elected officials, and there doesn't seem to be much change. there doesn't seem to be much chance. ~ �* ., change. we're looking at life -ictures change. we're looking at life pictures there _ change. we're looking at life pictures there for _ change. we're looking at life pictures there for our - change. we're looking at life| pictures there for our viewers change. we're looking at life - pictures there for our viewers just to let them know. i believe that is the scene outside the robb elementary school in uvalde. i imagine investigations are continuing as families try and pick up continuing as families try and pick up their very frightened children, i imagine, in a devastating moment for this community. we've got laura garcia speaking to us now. i know you've reported extensively from that area. ijust you've reported extensively from that area. i just want to get a sense of what you imagine as it is early days what the next steps will
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be. i early days what the next steps will be. ~' ., early days what the next steps will be. ~ ., �* , be. i think right now we're 'ust auoin to be. i think right now we're 'ust going to try i be. i think right now we're 'ust going to try to i be. i think right now we're 'ust going to try to confirm i be. i think right now we're just going to try to confirm what'sl going to try to confirm what's actually happening. we know he was an 18—year—old man who officials said heath's shop his grandmother and went across to the elementary school —— he shot his grandmother. i think a lot of our coverage is going to be on the community of uvalde. and on how people are going to heal from this. find and on how people are going to heal from this. �* , ., from this. and is that, given the fact that this — from this. and is that, given the fact that this is _ from this. and is that, given the fact that this is just _ from this. and is that, given the fact that this is just developing, | fact that this is just developing, just happening, as you've been talking about, have we heard from any of the family members? have we heard from any community members? no, i think there's been a separation between the victims in the family as the news is continuing to come out, so i haven't seen anything yet. we do have people on the ground and i expect the express
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things will have reactions and coverage of that as we go on for the today. == coverage of that as we go on for the toda . ., ., ._ . today. -- throughout the day. we hear that president _ today. -- throughout the day. we hear that president biden - today. -- throughout the day. we hear that president biden is - today. -- throughout the day. we hear that president biden is due l today. -- throughout the day. we | hear that president biden is due to speak in the next couple of hours or so. we've already heard that he has asked for flights to be at half—mast, half staff, rather, at the white house and other public buildings as a mark of respect for the victims. he's saying flags should be flown at half staff until sunset at may the 28th. what are you expecting in terms of the kinds of things that he will be saying to the community in the country, given that this has come after several other shootings in the united states? well, i expect that... i expect that he will likely looking at the magnitude of the amount of loss that we're seeing here, especially young
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children, i expect he's probably going to come and visit texas. it's hard to imagine what else they will say besides the whole thoughts and prayers. what else is left to say? this continues to happen here. we continue to have school shootings. absolutely. it’s continue to have school shootings. absolutely-— continue to have school shootings. absolutely-_ i- absolutely. it's frustrating. i can't begin— absolutely. it's frustrating. i can't begin to _ absolutely. it's frustrating. i can't begin to imagine - absolutely. it's frustrating. i can't begin to imagine how l absolutely. it's frustrating. i- can't begin to imagine how difficult a story this is to cover as well. i know this is unimaginably difficult. i really appreciate the time you're taking to speak to us today at a time when this is really devastating your community where you are. ijust want to show our audience pictures of what we've been talking about, how president biden has said that flags should be flown at half staff at the white house. that's already begun to happen. as a way to mark the horrible tragedy that has taken
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place today as a way to remember those young victims of this awful shooting. laura garcia, thank you for your time and your patience with us. i really appreciate you speaking to us. we can speak now to our correspondent davis willis, who has been looking into this story for us as well. —— david willis. we were just listening to laura, a reporter in san antonio, and she was talking about how this is going to be devastating for the community. any tragedy of this kind, but children so young, aged between 5—10, what are the latest lines you're hearing? absolutely. devastating to the community in texas and devastating throughout the country. politicians and long leakers, some of whom have taken to the floor of the senate to express condemnation, regret and to
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call for tighter gun control in this country —— politicians and lawmakers. including chris murphy. he said, and i quote," our heart is breaking for these families, " and he appealed for his republican colleagues to help find a way to make this sort of thing less likely. david, i know it's early days, but every time something of this nature happens, that discussion comes up. that debate over gun laws in the united states. i know you've been covering, reporting from the us for such a long time now. will anything change as a result of this?— change as a result of this? you're absolutely _ change as a result of this? you're absolutely right, _ change as a result of this? you're absolutely right, these _ change as a result of this? you're absolutely right, these incidentsl absolutely right, these incidents profoundly tragic because they are, are invariably met with hand—wringing, calls for change, but
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very little in the way of concrete action. president biden, who is on the way back to washington in about two and a half hours or do to deliver some initial remarks about this tragedy, has himself consistently called for tighter gun control laws in this country, including most recently a van on the sale of ghost guns —— a ban. and for background checks on all gun sales, but there has not been the majority and conquest to past that legislation —— in congress. such is the tight control of one of the most powerful lobbying groups in this country, the nra, the national rifle association. ironically, the nra is due to hold its annual meeting this coming weekend in texas, which the former president donald trump will
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be among the guest speakers. indeed. we're 'ust be among the guest speakers. indeed. we're just looking _ be among the guest speakers. indeed. we're just looking at _ be among the guest speakers. indeed. we're just looking at those _ we're just looking at those features, and it's devastating to think about what those families must be going through right now. you can see the look of absolute devastation on their faces. see the look of absolute devastation on theirfaces. it's see the look of absolute devastation on their faces. it's an awful moment. i also want to ask you about the fact that we are getting on information that gun deaths are the leading cause of death for us children and teenagers, overtaking car crashes. that's an astounding figure in comparison to other parts of the world. really, prompting soul—searching at some point. apparently, these sort of incidents were on the rise before the covid pandemic, and have continued to spike thereafter. the easy sale of guns largely one of the main reasons for this, guns largely one of the main reasons forthis, but guns largely one of the main reasons for this, but we often see in this
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country and rising gun crime in the summer months, when the temperatures are warmer, more people are out and about. but really and truly, very little quite like this, and one has to have cast one's mind back to the sandy hook massacre all those years ago in order to recall something of this sort of magnitude. it's absolutely tragic day, not only for the people of uvalde and texas, but for people across the united states. it will lead to renewed calls for tighter gun control measures. as to whether they will come to anything, i somehow doubt it.— whether they will come to anything, i somehow doubt it. david willis, on that note, i — i somehow doubt it. david willis, on that note, i will— i somehow doubt it. david willis, on that note, i will leave _ i somehow doubt it. david willis, on that note, i will leave it _ that note, i will leave it there with you. i know that you are going to be covering this story for us throughout the day. that's david willis, our north american correspondent. a reminder of our top story, the gunman we've been telling
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you about has shot dead at least 1a students and a teacher at a primary school in the us state of texas. we will leave that story for you now and tell you now about another story, a huge collection of data, including these images linked to china's treatment to uighurs has been handed to the bbc. they showed more like on —— shed more light on the system of mass dissension. —— mass detention. it was hacked and includes evidence of a shoot to kill policy for anyone trying to escape. john sudworth has the story. these are the faces china never intended us to see, from inside its system of mass incarceration in xinjiang. the government has long denied it's running detention camps for uyghurs, insisting instead they are vocational schools... ..for willing students. the photos, almost 3,000 of them, show the reality of how whole swathes of uyghur society have been
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swept up person by person. the oldest was 73 at the time of her detention. the time of her detention, the youngest just 15. the uyghurs, with their turkic language, islamic traditions and roots in a region with a history of separatism and violence, have long faced cycles of tightening government control. and with mounting criticism over the camps, the authorities have taken journalists on tours — showing them uyghurs celebrating their culture and, they say, being guided away from extremism. but it's a narrative undermined by the tens of thousands of files passed to the bbc. one set of documents describe the guarding of this camp, just outside the city of kashgar, with armed police stationed at all the main buildings and with each watchtower guarded by two officers, equipped with sniper rifles and machine guns.
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inside, lessons are watched over by police, carrying shields, batons and handcuffs. and the documents describe the response to students who attempt to escape. if warning shots are ignored, the order�*s clear — shoot them dead. yes, this is classified internal government information. the files, said to have been hacked from police computer servers in xinjiang by a source whose identity remains unknown, were first passed to dr adrian zenz — a xinjiang scholar who in turn shared them with the bbc. you have police officers in heavy riot gear standing next to some of the men. some of the men have their arms in a funny position as if they were handcuffed. so, this is really very powerful about the image material. i was looking through these images on my laptop in a living room and i had get up and go somewhere else and take a break. i was overwhelmed. the hacked files also contain hundreds of spreadsheets, row upon row of draconian jail
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sentences, often targeting expressions of islamic faith as a parallel method, alongside the camps, for detaining uyghurs en masse. just for growing a beard, tursun kadir was sentenced to 16 years injail. his chosen expression of uyghur identity forcibly removed. many others have been jailed for listening to illegal religious lectures, including tursun memetimin and ashigul turghun. the documents don't say whether their daughters have been sent, like so many others, to the state—run boarding schools built alongside the camps. the data can be verified — shown to contain real people. this man has not seen his wife and children since he left xinjiang in 2017. since he left xinjiang in 2017, yet a search of the hacked files found this. we can see the date? a photo of his wife. sentenced, the documents say,
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to six years in prison for a vague offence that appears time and again — "gathering a crowd to disturb the social order". "you can see how her spirit is broken", he tells me. mahmud tohti knew his eldest son had beenjailed, but the database tells him for how long. 15 years... ..for terrorism offences, although as evidence, only his son's devout islamic faith is listed. the chinese foreign ministry spokesman, wang wenbin, responded to our reporting. describing it as simply the latest anti—china falsehood and an attempt to "smear china" with rumours and lies. "xinjiang is stable, prosperous and the people have happy lives", he said. but there's been no attempt to address the evidence itself, which includes these images from deep within the system —
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further evidence of the harsh detention and indoctrination of a people — not for what they've done, but for who they are. john sudworth, bbc news. i'm joined by laura murphy, professor of human rights at the helena kennedy centre for internationaljustice. thank you for internationaljustice. thank you forjoining us i know this is a topic that you felt into extensively. were you surprised by what we've just seen in my colleague's report? i what we've just seen in my colleague's report? what we've just seen in my colleatue's re-ort? , , , colleague's report? i suppose, these ima . es did colleague's report? i suppose, these images did take _ colleague's report? i suppose, these images did take me _ colleague's report? i suppose, these images did take me a _ colleague's report? i suppose, these images did take me a bit _ colleague's report? i suppose, these images did take me a bit by - images did take me a bit by surprise. we don't see a lot of the images of either the insides of the camps or the information about the mechanisms by which they're securing the camps with the security forces, nor do we see the faces. i think for
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many of us who've been studying this for a long time, suddenly seeing the faces of all these innocent people who've been put away for wearing a beard or putting smoking, as somebody who knows people who are from that region, you can't help but look through every single image to find your loved ones and family members. i know the uighur community must be hurting very much.— must be hurting very much. indeed, and professor. _ must be hurting very much. indeed, and professor, we _ must be hurting very much. indeed, and professor, we know _ must be hurting very much. indeed, and professor, we know the - must be hurting very much. indeed, and professor, we know the plight l must be hurting very much. indeed, | and professor, we know the plight of the uighur people is known internationally, especially given the fact that so many of them have now had to move overseas. they are still looking for their families, as you point out. what else can the international community do two ways awareness about this issue? == international community do two ways awareness about this issue?- awareness about this issue? -- to raise it. awareness about this issue? -- to raise it- it's— awareness about this issue? -- to raise it. it's important _ awareness about this issue? -- to raise it. it's important to - awareness about this issue? -- to i raise it. it's important to remember the government has said repeatedly these camps are voluntary educational systems, and i hope that this brings awareness to everyone
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around the international community, including the un visitors there right now. but this is disinformation. there is not... this is not a voluntary system. they're surrounded by barbed wire, they're surrounded by barbed wire, they're surrounded by barbed wire, they're surrounded by people with riot gear, there are shoot to kill orders. people don't come and go from these places freely. i think we in the international community need to put more pressure on our governments to address this, to engage china about human rights, to pressure the un to do a real thorough investigation of what's going on there and for us to stop importing goods that are made by people who are held in these conditions. by people who are held in these conditions-— conditions. professor, it strikes me, as conditions. professor, it strikes me. as you _ conditions. professor, it strikes me. as you point— conditions. professor, it strikes me, as you point out, - conditions. professor, it strikes me, as you point out, beijing . conditions. professor, it strikes i me, as you point out, beijing has said these are voluntary education camps, but it's gone ahead and sort of documented these findings. why do you think they've done that? this is
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the thin. you think they've done that? this is the thing- we _ you think they've done that? this is the thing. we have _ you think they've done that? this is the thing. we have a _ you think they've done that? this is the thing. we have a vast _ you think they've done that? this is the thing. we have a vast body - you think they've done that? this is the thing. we have a vast body of i the thing. we have a vast body of first—person testimony about what's happening there, and in general, i think we should and can believe what we're learning from testimony, but we're learning from testimony, but we don't even need that because the government is meticulously documenting what they're doing there. they're providing this vast trove of evidence of their crimes against humanity, and it's a massive bureaucratic system in which they are tracking every single uighur person and other people from ethnic minority groups there to try to suppress their indigenous behaviour, their religious pile piety and their culture. in that system is creating this treasure trove of documentation of that allows us to really see what's going on and to see that these come from the top of the government. it's not some accidental thing that happening. this is
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happening across the region and because the ccp government has determined that this is what needs to happen in this region.— to happen in this region. professor laura to happen in this region. professor laura murphy- _ to happen in this region. professor laura murphy. thank _ to happen in this region. professor laura murphy. thank you - to happen in this region. professor laura murphy. thank you so - to happen in this region. professor laura murphy. thank you so much| to happen in this region. professor. laura murphy. thank you so much for joining us on newsday with your thoughts. joining us on newsday with your thou:hts. . ., joining us on newsday with your thou:hts. ., ~ , ., joining us on newsday with your thou:hts. . ~' ,, ., ., , thoughts. thank you for doing this re ntortin. thoughts. thank you for doing this reporting. you're _ thoughts. thank you for doing this reporting. you're watching - thoughts. thank you for doing this i reporting. you're watching newsday on the bbc world _ reporting. you're watching newsday on the bbc world news. _ reporting. you're watching newsday on the bbc world news. let's - reporting. you're watching newsday i on the bbc world news. let's remind you of the breaking story coming out of texas where the governor grabbed our habits as a con man has shot dead 1a students —— governor greg abbott. the pupils at the school record in the second, third and fourth grade, meaning but they were between the ages of 7—10. two police officers were wounded and the robb elementary school in the city of uvalde, 135 km west of san antonio. let's hear from the governor. first i want to let's hear from the governor. first i want to tell _ let's hear from the governor. first i want to tell you _ let's hear from the governor. first i want to tell you what _ let's hear from the governor. f “st i want to tell you what happened in uvalde is a horrific tragedy that cannot be tolerated in the state of
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texas, and swift action is being taken by local law enforcement as well as the texas department of public safety. they obviously now know who the shooter was and he is no longer alive. let me give you some details and i'll give you estimation about that. the shooter was salvador ramos, an 18—year—old male, and it's believe he admitted his vehicle and entered into the robb elementary school in uvalde with a handgun and may have also had a rifle. that is not yet confirmed. he shot and killed horrifically and incomprehensibly11t students and killed a teacher. mr salvador ramos the shooter, he himself is deceased.
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