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hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. this is outside source. the us says it's going to provide ukraine with advanced rocket systems. russia has described it as �*pouring oil on the fire'. meanwhile, its forces are moving house to house, taking more of severodonetsk, and ukraine's president has this message for the world. france's interior minister apologises for tear use against liverpool fans last week. we'll also look at the public row about travel chaos in the uk after the government claims holiday companies. they're looking to again deflect the attention from themselves by pointing it back on the travel industry and yet again making us the bad guy.
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we'll be live in glasgow where ukraine are about to play their first international match since the invasion. welcome to the programme. several developments to bring you on the war in ukraine. first, the us will send more advanced artillery systems to ukraine. russia isn't happy about it, saying it will add �*fuel to fire'. ukraine has been asking for these long—range missiles systems for weeks and says it will only to use them within its borders. this is the us secretary of state. with regard to weapons systems being provided, the ukrainians have given us assurances that they will not use these systems against targets on russian territory. there is a strong trust bond between ukraine and the united states, as well as with our allies and partners. the plan was announced in a new york times opinion piece by president biden, headlined �*what america will and will not do in ukraine'.
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in it, he says the weaponry and ammunition would help ukraine "be in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table." these are some of the long—range weapons that will be sent. they have a much longer range than artillery that's already been delivered. the pentagon says it will take roughly three weeks. they're also more accurate than their russian equivalents. as i mentioned, this hasn't gone down well in russia. translation: this is a direct provocation aimed at drawing| the west into hostilities. of course, saying western politicians are well aware of these risks. not all. i'll tell you straight — not everyone in the european union, especially in its northern part. there are politicians who are ready to go into this madness in order to satisfy their ambitions. but serious countries in the european union of course are well aware of the unacceptability of these scenarios.
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we know that originally, washington said it wouldn't supply these weapons. here's our security correspondent, frank gardner, on that. it's very risky because the way russia — it's very risky because the way russia sees— it's very risky because the way russia sees this _ it's very risky because the way russia sees this is _ it's very risky because the way russia sees this is nato - it's very risky because the way. russia sees this is nato missiles being _ russia sees this is nato missiles being based _ russia sees this is nato missiles being based on_ russia sees this is nato missiles being based on its— russia sees this is nato missiles being based on its border, - russia sees this is nato missiles being based on its border, nonel russia sees this is nato missiles l being based on its border, none of this would've — being based on its border, none of this would've happened _ being based on its border, none of this would've happened if- being based on its border, none of this would've happened if russia l being based on its border, none of. this would've happened if russia had invaded _ this would've happened if russia had invaded in _ this would've happened if russia had invaded in the — this would've happened if russia had invaded in the first _ this would've happened if russia had invaded in the first place. _ invaded in the first place. nevertheless, _ invaded in the first place. nevertheless, it - invaded in the first place. nevertheless, it is - invaded in the first place. nevertheless, it is an - invaded in the first place. - nevertheless, it is an escalated —— escalation — nevertheless, it is an escalated —— escalation. nato _ nevertheless, it is an escalated —— escalation. nato has _ nevertheless, it is an escalated —— escalation. nato has supplied - escalation. nato has supplied increasingly— escalation. nato has supplied increasingly heavy— escalation. nato has supplied increasingly heavy weaponry. | escalation. nato has supplied i increasingly heavy weaponry. as escalation. nato has supplied - increasingly heavy weaponry. as this war drags _ increasingly heavy weaponry. as this war drags on. — increasingly heavy weaponry. as this war drags on, news _ increasingly heavy weaponry. as this war drags on, news of— increasingly heavy weaponry. as this war drags on, news of atrocities - war drags on, news of atrocities coming — war drags on, news of atrocities coming out, _ war drags on, news of atrocities coming out, and _ war drags on, news of atrocities coming out, and ukraine- war drags on, news of atrocities coming out, and ukraine looks. war drags on, news of atrocities - coming out, and ukraine looks more and more _ coming out, and ukraine looks more and more in — coming out, and ukraine looks more and more in danger— coming out, and ukraine looks more and more in danger of— coming out, and ukraine looks more and more in danger of losing - coming out, and ukraine looks more and more in danger of losing this - and more in danger of losing this territory— and more in danger of losing this territory in — and more in danger of losing this territory in the _ and more in danger of losing this territory in the east _ and more in danger of losing this territory in the east and - and more in danger of losing this territory in the east and russia . territory in the east and russia basically absorbing _ territory in the east and russia basically absorbing it - territory in the east and russia basically absorbing it into - territory in the east and russia basically absorbing it into its. territory in the east and russia i basically absorbing it into its own territorv — basically absorbing it into its own territorv 50. _ basically absorbing it into its own territory. so, the _ basically absorbing it into its own territory. so, the inhibitions- basically absorbing it into its own territory. so, the inhibitions that| territory. so, the inhibitions that nato _ territory. so, the inhibitions that nato had — territory. so, the inhibitions that nato had eventually _ territory. so, the inhibitions that nato had eventually are - territory. so, the inhibitions that nato had eventually are being i nato had eventually are being drapped. _ nato had eventually are being drapped. but_ nato had eventually are being dropped, but this _ nato had eventually are being dropped, but this is _ nato had eventually are being dropped, but this is scary- nato had eventually are being i dropped, but this is scary stuff. there's— dropped, but this is scary stuff. there's obviously— dropped, but this is scary stuff. there's obviously been - dropped, but this is scary stuff. there's obviously been a - dropped, but this is scary stuff. | there's obviously been a debate dropped, but this is scary stuff. i there's obviously been a debate in washington — there's obviously been a debate in washington it— there's obviously been a debate in washington. it was _ there's obviously been a debate in washington. it was over _ there's obviously been a debate in washington. it was over whether. there's obviously been a debate in i washington. it was over whether they dare provoke — washington. it was over whether they dare provoke the _ washington. it was over whether they dare provoke the russians _ washington. it was over whether they dare provoke the russians with - washington. it was over whether they dare provoke the russians with this. i dare provoke the russians with this. remember— dare provoke the russians with this.
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remember that _ dare provoke the russians with this. rememberthat ukraine— dare provoke the russians with this. remember that ukraine has- dare provoke the russians with this. remember that ukraine has a - dare provoke the russians with this. i remember that ukraine has a vested interest— remember that ukraine has a vested interest to _ remember that ukraine has a vested interest to putt— remember that ukraine has a vested interest to pull nato _ remember that ukraine has a vested interest to pull nato into _ remember that ukraine has a vested interest to pull nato into this - interest to pull nato into this battle — interest to pull nato into this battle of _ interest to pull nato into this battle of theirs. _ interest to pull nato into this battle of theirs. they're - interest to pull nato into this. battle of theirs. they're saying this isn't— battle of theirs. they're saying this isn't ukraine's _ battle of theirs. they're saying this isn't ukraine's fight, - battle of theirs. they're saying this isn't ukraine's fight, this. battle of theirs. they're sayingl this isn't ukraine's fight, this is the free — this isn't ukraine's fight, this is the free west's _ this isn't ukraine's fight, this is the free west's fight. _ this isn't ukraine's fight, this is the free west's fight. we - this isn't ukraine's fight, this is the free west's fight. we are l this isn't ukraine's fight, this isi the free west's fight. we are in vanguard — the free west's fight. we are in vanguard of— the free west's fight. we are in vanguard of it _ the free west's fight. we are in vanguard of it. nato _ the free west's fight. we are in vanguard of it. nato doesn't - the free west's fight. we are in l vanguard of it. nato doesn't want the free west's fight. we are in - vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to -et vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to get involved — vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to get involved. the _ vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to get involved. the last— vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to get involved. the last thing - vanguard of it. nato doesn't want to get involved. the last thing they. get involved. the last thing they want _ get involved. the last thing they want is — get involved. the last thing they want is direct— get involved. the last thing they want is direct concentration - get involved. the last thing they want is direct concentration withi want is direct concentration with russia _ want is direct concentration with russia -- — want is direct concentration with russia —— confrontation. - the question is — will they actually make a difference? here's the view from a defence analyst in ukraine. if ukraine artillery will have this long—range rocket system, this country offensive operation will be more effective and it will mean that russia will have to bring more troops to defend their predictions, and they will not be able to attack severely —— their positions. the same goes for kharkiv, where the russian artillery still is located and allows the shelling of the city.
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long—range rockets will allow to pull them further into the territory of russia. that's all for the future. what about on the ground right now? russian forces are said to be in control of more of severodonetsk, the strategically important city in the donbas region. more than 10,000 people are trapped in the city, which is under constant bombardment. more from joe inwood in kyiv. slowly, severodonetsk seems to be slipping from kyiv�*s control. street by street, one basement at a time, the russians say they are taking this city. these fighters, thought to be chechen, posted a video on social media, appearing to show them taking the state security headquarters. "have the engineers checked that?" one asks. "not really, it's not clear what's inside," his colleague replies. what is clear is that russia is taking this city, with the ukrainian governor
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saying his forces are pulling back to more defensible positions. it is maybe why president zelensky made this call. translation: everyone at all levels must now be lobbyists _ for the supply of modern, heavy weapons and artillery to our state, all those systems that can really speed up the victory of ukraine. in the city of slovyansk, you can see why protecting the skies is a top priority for ukraine. this block was hit by russian missiles. three people's lives might have been saved had the city been better protected from above. while in the city of kharkiv, even though the shelling has mostly stopped, they are still making grim discoveries. "both bodies are here", he says. the true cost of this invasion is still yet to emerge, and as long as the fighting continues, it will continue to grow. joe inwood, bbc news, kyiv. let's turn to a country that's come under criticism for its response to the conflict — germany.
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this is from ukraine's ambassador to germany. today, we got this announcement from the german chancellor. i today, we got this announcement from the german chancellor.— the german chancellor. i want to make one _ the german chancellor. i want to make one thing _ the german chancellor. i want to make one thing clear— the german chancellor. i want to make one thing clear - _ the german chancellor. i want to make one thing clear - germany| the german chancellor. i want to - make one thing clear - germany has make one thing clear — germany has nothing to hide. we have been supplying continuously since the beginning of the war. immediately, after the war began, we made this decision and broke with long—standing state practice in germany. it was the right decision, but it was a new and courageous decision by this government. it's known as iris—t, and it's a modern air defence and radar system. let's put this into context. we know that germany is the world's fifth—largest arms exporter, and it promised military support to ukraine in the past. but a report from over the weekend said that it's actually reduced its military support there —
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only making two deliveries of light weapons since late march. earlier, i spoke to sudha davd—wilp, from the german marshall fund think tank in berlin. the bundestag at pains to be specific— the bundestag at pains to be specific in what germany plans to deliver _ specific in what germany plans to deliver. also the fact that germany is going _ deliver. also the fact that germany is going to — deliver. also the fact that germany is going to be delivering a sophisticated air defence missile shoutd _ sophisticated air defence missile should perhaps help germany to patch up should perhaps help germany to patch up the _ should perhaps help germany to patch up the reputational damage it's had in the _ up the reputational damage it's had in the past — up the reputational damage it's had in the past three months, because chanceitor— in the past three months, because chancellor schultz really made a very serious and see changing speech, — very serious and see changing speech, the so—called turning point -- schoiz — speech, the so—called turning point —— scholz. he seems to have been tracksiiding, — —— scholz. he seems to have been backsliding, and the promises germany— backsliding, and the promises germany has given to ukraine have been slow — germany has given to ukraine have been slow. ~ , ., , ., ~' germany has given to ukraine have been slow. ~ , ., , ., ,, ., ., , been slow. why do you think that has been? i been slow. why do you think that has been? i guess— been slow. why do you think that has been? i guess chancellor— been slow. why do you think that has been? i guess chancellor scholz - been? i guess chancellor scholz is
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still very hesitant. _ been? i guess chancellor scholz is still very hesitant. he's _ been? i guess chancellor scholz is still very hesitant. he's got - still very hesitant. he's got obvious— still very hesitant. he's got obvious risk within his party about isotating _ obvious risk within his party about isolating russia and there is also fear of— isolating russia and there is also fear of escalation. i think there is still a _ fear of escalation. i think there is still a mentality in germany that it has to— still a mentality in germany that it has to figure out how to live with russia, _ has to figure out how to live with russia, but that can't really happen in the _ russia, but that can't really happen in the near— russia, but that can't really happen in the nearterm russia, but that can't really happen in the near term when food and has his ideas. _ in the near term when food and has his ideas, and i think at the same time, _ his ideas, and i think at the same time, he's — his ideas, and i think at the same time, he's torn because they realise it's defending its freedom, also the values _ it's defending its freedom, also the values of— it's defending its freedom, also the values of the west and even also standing up for principles that go beyond _ standing up for principles that go beyond the area. it has ramifications for the indo pacific. do you _ ramifications for the indo pacific. do you think this announcement, if it is delivered quickly, does that produce an end to this heaven that see and things to be different? this produce an end to this heaven that see and things to be different? fissi see and things to be different? as i mentioned. — see and things to be different? as i mentioned. he _ see and things to be different? as i mentioned, he talked about sending tanks _ mentioned, he talked about sending tanks and _
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mentioned, he talked about sending tanks and more anti—tank and anti-air— tanks and more anti—tank and anti—air defence missiles and considerable amounts of ammunition, and this— considerable amounts of ammunition, and this should help, but let's see how fast— and this should help, but let's see how fast it — and this should help, but let's see how fast it gets there. germany has also reinforced this idea it would supply— also reinforced this idea it would supply countries like greece and the czech _ supply countries like greece and the czech republic with more modern tanks _ czech republic with more modern tanks if— czech republic with more modern tanks if it— czech republic with more modern tanks if it would send its soviet era tanks — tanks if it would send its soviet era tanks to ukraine. but we're in fora— era tanks to ukraine. but we're in for a protracted contact, and scholz is probably— for a protracted contact, and scholz is probably also worried about whether— is probably also worried about whether the electorate will stand behind _ whether the electorate will stand behind his decision to isolate russia — behind his decision to isolate russia because this country is still very vulnerable because it depends on natural— very vulnerable because it depends on natural gas from russia. | very vulnerable because it depends on natural gas from russia. ijust on natural gas from russia. i 'ust want to ask fl on natural gas from russia. i 'ust want to ask you i on natural gas from russia. i 'ust want to ask you briefly �* on natural gas from russia. i 'ust want to ask you briefly about h on natural gas from russia. but want to ask you briefly about public opinion because there could be seeing their bills going up because of it. obviously given the history, there is reluctance from militarisation and germany. as the public squarely behind leadership? i
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public squarely behind leadership? i think the majority of germans reaiise — think the majority of germans realise this is a 1939 moment for europe and that it needs to act in order— europe and that it needs to act in order to — europe and that it needs to act in order to keep peace and stability in the continent. it's enjoyed the peace — the continent. it's enjoyed the peace dividend for over 75 years now and realises— peace dividend for over 75 years now and realises that it has to militarise as a response and play a part in— militarise as a response and play a part in security. but there is still hesitation— part in security. but there is still hesitation because germany has committed to the 2% defence spending as part _ committed to the 2% defence spending as part of— committed to the 2% defence spending as part of nato, and we'll see if this is— as part of nato, and we'll see if this is to — as part of nato, and we'll see if this is to attainable —— sustainable. the chief of staff for ukraine's president has responded to this weapons announcement by the us. "thank you, allies. let's defeat russia together." the bbc has heard multiple account of torture and
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kidnapped in kherson. caroline davies that this report and some viewers may find it disturbing. alexander says this is the result of torture at in the hands of the russian authorities. he explains how he was hung by his wrists and put in the stress position. he was a construct in the army, but is now businessman who lived in the village in kherson. translation: they put the bag on my head, the meeting began. russians began to threaten i would not have kidneys. —— the beating. they started smashing my watch, trampling my feet. i was severely beaten on the side, i lost consciousness.- side, i lost consciousness. within da s of side, i lost consciousness. within days of russia's _ side, i lost consciousness. within days of russia's invasion, - side, i lost consciousness. within days of russia's invasion, this - side, i lost consciousness. within | days of russia's invasion, this man says he was kidnapped. translation: they kicked me and hit me with a bottom _ they kicked me and hit me with a bottom of— they kicked me and hit me with a bottom of a machine gun. later when iwent—
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bottom of a machine gun. later when i went to _ bottom of a machine gun. later when i went to the — bottom of a machine gun. later when i went to the doctor, i learned they had broken — i went to the doctor, i learned they had broken four ribs. i heard them torturing other prisoners. i think that was— torturing other prisoners. i think that was even worse for me than the physical— that was even worse for me than the physical beating because psychologically, it was very difficult _ psychologically, it was very difficult to survive.- psychologically, it was very difficult to survive. russian troops took control _ difficult to survive. russian troops took control of _ difficult to survive. russian troops took control of kherson _ difficult to survive. russian troops took control of kherson early - difficult to survive. russian troops took control of kherson early in i difficult to survive. russian troops l took control of kherson early in the war, without being able to go into the region, it's difficult to corroborate his accounts, but we've heard testimonies with allegations of kidnapping and torture. transition mike i of kidnapping and torture. transition mike— of kidnapping and torture. transition mik ., , transition mike i saw gun wounds, consequences _ transition mike i saw gun wounds, consequences of _ transition mike i saw gun wounds, consequences of rape, _ transition mike i saw gun wounds, consequences of rape, burns, - consequences of rape, burns, fractures, _ consequences of rape, burns, fractures, cranial— consequences of rape, burns, fractures, cranial cerebral- consequences of rape, burns, - fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when _ fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a _ fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a person— fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a person is— fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a person is brought - fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a person is brought in - fractures, cranial cerebral injuries when a person is brought in an. when a person is brought in an unconscious _ when a person is brought in an unconscious state. _ when a person is brought in an unconscious state. what - when a person is brought in anj unconscious state. what might happy mac this doctor said he treated — happy mac this doctor said he treated multiple _ happy mac this doctor said he treated multiple patients - happy mac this doctor said he treated multiple patients with happy mac this doctor said he - treated multiple patients with signs of torture _ treated multiple patients with signs of torture on— treated multiple patients with signs of torture on their _ treated multiple patients with signs of torture on their bodies. - treated multiple patients with signs of torture on their bodies. [- treated multiple patients with signs of torture on their bodies. [sapp- of torture on their bodies. i saw burn marks _ of torture on their bodies. i saw burn marks on _ of torture on their bodies. i saw burn marks on genitals - of torture on their bodies. i saw burn marks on genitals and - of torture on their bodies.“ burn marks on genitals and burns from an iron on a patient�*s back and
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stomach. a patient told me a wire was connected to a car battery, two bare wires were attached to his groin and his feet were on a wet rag. groin and his feet were on a wet ran. ., groin and his feet were on a wet ran. . , ., ., �* , rag. the un are investigating what's ha enin: rag. the un are investigating what's happening in — rag. the un are investigating what's happening in kherson. _ rag. the un are investigating what's happening in kherson. i— rag. the un are investigating what's happening in kherson. ithink- rag. the un are investigating what's happening in kherson. i think what l happening in kherson. i think what we see in the _ happening in kherson. i think what we see in the testimony _ happening in kherson. i think what we see in the testimony that - happening in kherson. i think what| we see in the testimony that you've captured _ we see in the testimony that you've captured is — we see in the testimony that you've captured is very consistent with what _ captured is very consistent with what we're hearing notjust in areas currentiv _ what we're hearing notjust in areas currently under occupation, but also areas _ currently under occupation, but also areas that— currently under occupation, but also areas that were formerly occupied by russian _ areas that were formerly occupied by russian forces. the areas that were formerly occupied by russian forces.— russian forces. the russian authorities _ russian forces. the russian authorities did _ russian forces. the russian authorities did not - russian forces. the russian authorities did not respond | russian forces. the russian i authorities did not respond to russian forces. the russian - authorities did not respond to our request. all other allegations of war crimes the stage. as morse testimonies are gathered, many paint a picture of intimidation and repression of life under russian control. caroline davies, bbc news, odesa. an update on the fallout from the champion in's league.
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gerald darmanin said he was �*very sorry�* for the �*disproportionate�* use of tear gas against liverpool fans as they queue at the entrance to the stade de france in paris to watch their team take on real madrid. champions league final chaos — french interior minister senate during a hearing at french senate this afternoon on events at the stade de france last saturday, french officials blamed fans with fake tickets. hugh schofield is in paris. we've learned there _ hugh schofield is in paris. we've learned there is _ hugh schofield is in paris. we've learned there is a _ hugh schofield is in paris. we've learned there is a change - hugh schofield is in paris. we've learned there is a change of- hugh schofield is in paris. we've| learned there is a change of tone hugh schofield is in paris. we've i learned there is a change of tone at the very least, but possibly more. things got wrong and there was a disproportionate use of tear gas and pepper disproportionate use of tear gas and pepper spray against fans who were perfectly going about their business. in general sense that listens badly learned. if the shift because at the beginning, there was
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more dramatic and simplest the sick. —— simplistic. one shouldn�*t overlook the fact that the explanation. either without anything at all or with false tickets, and that remains unchanged. that is controversial because on the other side, there are people who criticise the french government, who say they�*ve invested all this without their arguments that there�*s no sign of these extra people at the stadium. but the french minister stuck by his guns and said there was a big influx of people who should not have been there, there was massive false ticketing, and that was the root cause. that led to the barrage giving way, which led to the scenes of delinquency and in process
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—— improper use of pepper spray. they still say it was too many supporters turning up. interesting. is there supporters turning up. interesting. is there any _ supporters turning up. interesting. is there any sign _ supporters turning up. interesting. is there any sign we _ supporters turning up. interesting. is there any sign we are _ supporters turning up. interesting. is there any sign we are there - supporters turning up. interesting. is there any sign we are there is i is there any sign we are there is going to be investigation to establish what did happen? there are two under wav- _ establish what did happen? there are two under way. so, _ establish what did happen? there are two under way. so, we _ establish what did happen? there are two under way. so, we will— establish what did happen? there are two under way. so, we will learn i two under way. so, we will learn more. what we got today was the french government, some evidence which we say —— they say supports their case of this large number of unexpected people turning up at the gate. they say when asked to explain how these extra people were supposedly there and no one saw them, they say these people turned up, we have evidence from the underground operators. we have
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evidence that around half time, the rose the return of people on the underground from the stadium suggesting that there were 20,000 people at the stadium who should not of been there. —— should not have. the operator who operated the systems says one particular ticket has been coffee 700 times —— copied. the bar code came up at 700 different occasions. so, they�*re sticking to their guns and saying they got things wrong, but the router the problems was this mass arrival of people —— root of the problem. arrival of people -- root of the problem-— arrival of people -- root of the roblem. . , . ., ., let�*s get the latest on the travel disruption now. the british government and the travel industry are having a pretty public row about who�*s to blame. 377 flights from uk airports
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were cancelled in the past week, and another 150 were cancelled today. the transport secretary met representatives from the airlines and airports. yesterday, he accused them of over—selling flights and holidays. we�*ve also heard from the deputy prime minister. ultimately, it is up to the aviation and holiday sector to make sure they have the staff in place. if they�*re smart things we can do with her apartment, we want to facilitate those holidays —— with recruitment, we want to make sure... but it�*s up to those businesses to respond to their demand and frankly, the advice has been there for months now from the transport secretary, to deal with those issues. fundamentally, i think responsibility is on them to get their capacity in place. the travel industry isn�*t happy with that assessment. here�*s the chair of a trade body representing tour operators. it makes me want to say, how dare
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you turn— it makes me want to say, how dare you turn this — it makes me want to say, how dare you turn this back on us now? it's something — you turn this back on us now? it's something that could've absolutely been avoided had the government iistened _ been avoided had the government listened to the industry the entire way during covid. i think they are looking _ way during covid. i think they are looking for— way during covid. i think they are looking for a scapegoat, they're looking — looking for a scapegoat, they're looking to defect the attention from themselves by pointing it back on themselves by pointing it back on the travel— themselves by pointing it back on the travel industry and yet again making — the travel industry and yet again making us— the travel industry and yet again making us the bad guy. we were the bad guy— making us the bad guy. we were the bad guy during covid. it's not new to us _ bad guy during covid. it's not new to us the — bad guy during covid. it's not new to us. the industry itself has done an incredible job at bouncing back, but recruiting and getting back up to those _ but recruiting and getting back up to those levels that we were pre—pandemicjust doesn't happen pre—pandemic just doesn't happen overnight — let�*s have a look at some of the numbers behind the disruption. before covid, uk airlines employed 7a,000 people. since then, they�*ve cut 30,000 of those jobs. the industry says it is trying to recruit again, but it takes time. getting security clearance for new airport staff takes 1a weeks. the government says it�*s trying to speed this up. there�*s also this from the boss of the airline ryanair. he says...
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for now, we have scenes like this. this is a co—pilot loading bags onto his plane after a more than 30—hour delay at manchester airport. this isn�*t only affecting the uk. we show you these pictures dublin airport over the weekend. our transport correspondent, katy austin, is there. i asked her if this was a sign of things to come. potentially, yes. there�*s definitely a race to try and iron out the problems in time for the busy summer holidays. i think —— the problems are acute now because this is the first big test. we had to man come back with a bang and we were finding particularly before easter that
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airports and airlines weren�*t quite there in terms of their resourcing and staff. airports say that actually, things are improving. security, we have seen very long queues. they say they have recruited more people and there will still be some incidents where you are queuing for a long time, but it doesn�*t appear to have gotten worse, and it�*s not a problem universally. some passengers will find they get away with no problems whatsoever. on the airlines kherson side of things, aviation is a complicated system. if you are an airline like tui and they have staff shortages, that has an upper impact. that�*s what they say it has happened, meaning they�*ve chosen to cancel six flights every day over the next month. all that is a small proportion, that has an impact for thousands of customers and they�*re the latest airlines to
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make cancellations. basically to try and remove the chances of on the day disruption. hats and remove the chances of on the day disru tion. ., , , and remove the chances of on the day disru tion. . , , ., and remove the chances of on the day disru tion. .,, , . , , and remove the chances of on the day disrution. .,, , ., , , , , . disruption. has been a pretty public row between _ disruption. has been a pretty public row between the _ disruption. has been a pretty public row between the government. i disruption. has been a pretty public row between the government. anyl row between the government. any progress being made?— row between the government. any progress being made? there has been a meetin: progress being made? there has been a meeting this — progress being made? there has been a meeting this afternoon _ progress being made? there has been a meeting this afternoon between i progress being made? there has been a meeting this afternoon between the | a meeting this afternoon between the uk transport secretary and representatives of the travel industries. that meeting was only just finished, so we don�*t know exactly what�*s been said or what the conclusion if any has been, but there has been a bit of a public blame game with uk ministers saying airports should have prepared better. they have hit back and said it was difficult to plan ahead. they had no visibility. some businesses seem to be affected more than others. some are saying they
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prepared all right, they�*re just being affected by the destruction filed by others. what has become clear is even though some airports are saying things are getting better, there was chronic issues there. recruiters say theyjust can�*t get the staff in areas like baggage handling, and that will take some time. that means it will take some time. that means it will take some time. that means it will take some time to sort these staff shortages completely, so in summary, there isn�*t a quick fix. we�*ll have to wait and see whether today�*s meeting, any solutions have been come up with that might help the situation. we had the statement in the last few minutes from the uk transport secretary.
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i want to bring you some live pictures from the us. virginia, in fact. thejury have reached their verdict into the next half hour. this is the defamation case betweenjohnny depp and amber heard. the trial lasted six weeks and the court heard details of their times of volatile relationship and many allegations of abuse. johnny depp sued his act life —— ex—wife for defamation, alleging she was at a domestic abuse victim, though it didn�*t mention him by name. i amber heard countersued. johnny depp won�*t be in court, but his ex—wife is expected to be there. we�*re expecting that announcement shortly as i mentioned in about half an hour. we will have full coverage of it here on bbc news. for the moment,
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that�*s it. i�*m lewis vaughanjones and this is outside source. bye—bye. hello. another day where we�*ve seen some frequent and, in places, showers across parts of the uk, particularly the eastern side. they will be fading through this evening, so the night becomes dry and clear, although the west of northern ireland will see more cloud moving in from the west, perhaps with some patchy rain through the early hours and maybe some mist and fog developing through parts of eastern england and east anglia. it�*s a cool night wherever you are, 5—9 celsius typically the low, a few degrees lower for some rural areas. for tomorrow, we have this area of high pressure as the dominant feature. keeping an eye on what�*s happening across iberia and france because this could bring some impacts to us through saturday and sunday. also, this feature here moving its way eastwards across northern ireland will bring a cloudier day with some slow—moving bands of rain. but elsewhere, plenty of sunshine to start, some cloud developing later in the morning and early afternoon. could bring the chance of a few showers across parts of scotland
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and northern england, but for many, it�*s a much drier day, more in the way of sunshine. it will feel warmer than it has done on recent days. temperatures widely in the mid to high teens — 20 or 21 celsius across parts of central and southern england. so, for the platinumjubilee weekend, things are looking warmer in the days ahead. there�*ll be some spells of sunshine for many. there is an increasing chance of heavy showers and thunderstorms, especially as we head into saturday and sunday. for friday, we�*ve still got some showers around across northern ireland, but also working their way further eastwards, perhaps just clipping parts of wales, northwest england and scotland. again, for many, it�*s mainly dry, plenty of warm sunshine. it�*ll feel cooler, though, along some north sea coasts with a northeasterly wind. but away from here in the sunshine, temperatures again mid to high teens, perhaps the low 20s celsius. but keeping an eye on central, southern england, parts of wales as we head into saturday as these frontal systems move up from france, likely to bring an increasing chance of some heavy showers and thunderstorms, and with the light winds,
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they�*ll be slow—moving. so, they will be working their way gradually northwards through the day, could perhaps get up to the midlands, but for northern ireland, north wales, northern england and into scotland, here�*s where we�*re expecting fine, dry and sunny weather, and again, feeling very warm. but those north sea coasts once again will be feeling cooler in an east or northeasterly wind. for sunday, still the chances of those heavy showers and thunderstorms across the southern half of the uk. the driest weather looks to be further north. keep an eye on the forecast. bye— bye.
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hello, i�*m lewis vaughan jones, this is outside source. (sot) us says it will provide ukraine with advanced rocket systems and russia described it as pouring oil on the fire. meanwhile its forces are moving house to house taking more and frans�*s interior minister has apologised to what equals in disproportionate use of clear glass against liverpool fans. we will hear from shanghai where residents have had their first day without restrictions after two months of lockdown. we will be live in glasgow where ukraine are about to play their first international football
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match since russia launched its invasion. we will start with football. in the next two minutes ukraine will play its first international since russia�*s invasion in the world cup qualifier again scotland. the match was postponed in april because of the war in ukraine of course. and whoever wins tonight will play wales on sunday for a place at the men�*s world cup in qatar in november. there can�*t be a more extraordinary backdrop for a game for the ukrainian team. who left the country shortly after the war started. for scottish and ukrainian fans there is unity amongst both sides. it scottish and ukrainian fans there is unity amongst both sides. it means a lot to us especially _ unity amongst both sides. it means a lot to us especially with _ unity amongst both sides. it means a lot to us especially with everything i lot to us especially with everything that�*s going on and i think for soccer players right now they need to win this game and they need to
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show the people of ukraine that we are warriors so i think it would be are warriors so i think it would be a good game. are warriors so i think it would be a good game-— a good game. when the fixtures came out it was like — a good game. when the fixtures came out it was like who _ a good game. when the fixtures came out it was like who do _ a good game. when the fixtures came out it was like who do i _ a good game. when the fixtures came out it was like who do i support, i out it was like who do i support, scotland to _ out it was like who do i support, scotland to have not been to the world _ scotland to have not been to the world cup — scotland to have not been to the world cup since 1998 scotland to have not been to the world cup since1998 or ukraine who are now— world cup since1998 or ukraine who are now in _ world cup since1998 or ukraine who are now in conflict and it's interesting how the game is going to pan out _ interesting how the game is going to pan out 0t— interesting how the game is going to an out. . ., , interesting how the game is going to an out. , h interesting how the game is going to anout. , �*, .,, pan out. of course it's only football — pan out. of course it's only football but _ pan out. of course it's only football but in _ pan out. of course it's only football but in this - pan out. of course it's only| football but in this instance pan out. of course it's only i football but in this instance we pan out. of course it's only - football but in this instance we can safely say it a lot more than that. emotional on both sides. we will try to speak to lorna who is outside the stadium in glasgow. a high stakes match it means a lot. it stadium in glasgow. a high stakes match it means a lot.— stadium in glasgow. a high stakes match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field — match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and _ match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and it _ match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and it means _ match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and it means a - match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and it means a lot i match it means a lot. it means a lot on the field and it means a lot off i on the field and it means a lot off the field as well. it kicks off in a few minutes. scott and fans who outnumber the ukrainian fans substantially. we are expecting 300,000 ukrainian fans to be in the
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sold—out time bending stadium behind me this evening but the scotland fans invited to the ukrainian national anthem ahead of kick—off. clearly everyone is aware of what is going on back in ukraine. the army has a reputation of being a very friendly group of friends and i think it�*s fair to say especially so today. i was in the city centre earlier on and there was a lot of hugging and shaking of hands and exchanging of good wishes and showing solidarity between the fans but of course it�*s high—stakes in terms of what this means for the players as well and the ukrainian team have not seen a competitive game since the wires started. they have been playing some families at the ap and in their training camp for the past few weeks but they will be aware that the eyes of their
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nation are on that monday will be hoping to give people back home a big list but of course it is really important for scotland as well. and the team are having to focus very heavily on the action for the next 90 minutes. not be distracted by the wider political picture because whoever wins tonight will go on to play wales in cardiff on sunday and whoever wins that will be heading to the world cup in qatar and for scotland that i stand there in a world cup final was may 1998. this is a really important game tonight albeit that it is just football and of course everybody here is well aware that there are far more important things happening back in ukraine. ., , important things happening back in ukraine. . , ., ~ important things happening back in ukraine. ., , . ~' , ., ukraine. that is true. thank you very much- _ ukraine. that is true. thank you very much- we _ ukraine. that is true. thank you very much. we will _ ukraine. that is true. thank you very much. we will get - ukraine. that is true. thank you very much. we will get the i ukraine. that is true. thank you very much. we will get the viewj ukraine. that is true. thank you i very much. we will get the view from inside ukraine without a sports
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journalist. thank you for coming on the programme and speaking to us. how important is this football match in ukraine? ., , ., �* , in ukraine? hello everyone. it's very important _ in ukraine? hello everyone. it's very important match _ in ukraine? hello everyone. it's very important match and i in ukraine? hello everyone. it's very important match and it's i in ukraine? hello everyone. it's. very important match and it's not very important match and it�*s not only about football it�*s more about social influence on the country and on the people and i hope we don�*t speak about results but anyway it will give her the country and the nation will give good story and it will give us very good emotions and even now i understand how much i miss football. in a miss these emotions for this beautiful game. it emotions for this beautiful game. it must be such a strange contrast for you and millions of people across the country. his contrast of what�*s happening on the ground and this
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distraction, a welcome distraction to watch the football. how will people be watching it across the country because i imagine in some parts it would be pretty difficult to watch it. for parts it would be pretty difficult to watch it— parts it would be pretty difficult to watch it. ., , , ., to watch it. for sure. even before i asked my brother _ to watch it. for sure. even before i asked my brother who _ to watch it. for sure. even before i asked my brother who in _ to watch it. for sure. even before i asked my brother who in the i to watch it. for sure. even before i asked my brother who in the army| asked my brother who in the army will he watch this game and his answer was absolutely brilliant. it was for sure we will watch the game. i am sure everybody all over the country who have access to internet and access to watch the game will do that. maybe not the whole game, maybe not tv transition but the whole country will follow what will happen today in glasgow and hampden park. , ., , ., happen today in glasgow and hampden park. , ., , _ happen today in glasgow and hampden park. , ., , ,, . , park. this has not been by any stretch of— park. this has not been by any stretch of the _ park. this has not been by any stretch of the imagination - park. this has not been by any stretch of the imagination the | park. this has not been by any - stretch of the imagination the ideal
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preparation for the footballers for this game. do you think they have a chance of winning? for this game. do you think they have a chance of winning?— chance of winning? for sure. it was not ideal but _ chance of winning? for sure. it was not ideal but we _ chance of winning? for sure. it was not ideal but we have _ chance of winning? for sure. it was not ideal but we have 90 _ chance of winning? for sure. it was not ideal but we have 90 minutes l chance of winning? for sure. it was i not ideal but we have 90 minutes and unbelievable motivation. i don't know what the result will be but i'm sure football players and our team will give their form 100% on the fields and we will love them with any results at the end of the game but for sure if we win and goal one boy stepped to the world cup the story will be such an incredible for some hollywood movie. absolutely ri . ht.
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some hollywood movie. absolutely right- fingers— some hollywood movie. absolutely right. fingers crossed. _ some hollywood movie. absolutely right. fingers crossed. the - some hollywood movie. absolutely right. fingers crossed. the world i right. fingers crossed. the world will be supporting you. thank you for coming on and talking to us. good luck. to denmark, where polls havejust closed in a referendum that could re—shape the country's security. da nes voted today on whether tojoin the european union's common security and defence policy. it's the only one of the eu's 27 members to have opted out of defence cooperation, meaning for 30 years the danish military has played no part in most european security initiatives. here's foreign policy researcher christine nissen. taking part in the eu military operations and taking part in the eu's new corporation on permanent structure defence and general he also participates in the
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decision—making process that forms and shapes the eu security and defence policy which prohibits you from having any influence on. the danish government called the referendum in response to russia's invasion of ukraine. here's the prime minister. i wholeheartedly and strongly advise a �*yes'. i don't think i have ever advised something as much as i am doing this time. when putin is as aggressive as he is in ukraine right now, as he could be elsewhere, then i think we in the rest of europe ought to stand together. exit polls show: but analysts say a yes vote would be a largely symbolic win for the eu — denmark is already a member of the nato alliance, here's christine nissen again. there are a minority of parties supporting a note lifting the opt out and more of those are sceptical —— sceptical to eu membership.
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other danish leaders argue the security situation has changed, and want closer military ties with the eu. and the latest opinion polls suggest around 49% of the public agree, let's hear from some of them. "i think that these kind of elections are even more important than earlier. in times of war it's obviously important to state if you feel that you want to join this community or not. it is important ballot because it has to do with the sovereignty not only of danish people but also how we see and use military in the future. and that is really important to me. the debate in denmark is part of a change in security policy across the nordic region. finland and sweden have applied to join the nato defence alliance, but one nation is blocking the bid. turkey says the countries are harbouring terror groups. here's president erdogan today.
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we explained why we are against the membership of those countries with reasons and examples. until now, we did not receive any concrete document that can resolve our doubts. back in denmark, the referendum isjust one part of a major policy shift since russia's invasion of ukraine. the government agreed to a large boost in defence spending — an extra one billion dollars over the next two years. it also announced plans to phase out russian gas, and is considering allowing us or other foreign troops to be stationed on danish territory. let's go to adrienne murray in copenhagen. thank you forjoining us. we can see you and wondering whether we could. bring us the latest from denmark. the polls closed just half an hour ago and we are waiting for those
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results. they will not be out until 11pm tonight so around nine gmt. the iipm tonight so around nine gmt. the danes have been casting their votes all day to choose yes or no whether they want this closer relationship to europe when it comes to defensive secure policy. the last 30 years denmark had an opt out so that's called the defence reservation and it's one of four different opt outs that denmark had as part of agreeing to the treaty 30 years ago. it's the only eu member states to have that opt out so it seemed as quite a significant reversal of policy position should that boat go ahead. and we wait for that result. how is the public debate about this issue since the invasion?— since the invasion? opinion polls have seemed _ since the invasion? opinion polls have seemed to _ since the invasion? opinion polls have seemed to suggest - since the invasion? opinion polls
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have seemed to suggest that - since the invasion? opinion polls - have seemed to suggest that people support closer ties with europe and as he mentioned opinion polls earlier as being a big shift back in march there was an announcement of what they called the national compromise and that's when danish parliaments across a number of parties agree to this big boost in defence spending and it was at the same time they came up with a plan to get them off russian gas and that's seen as energy policy and security policy now and at the same time they announce this referendum. there has been some confusion and some scepticism for some time there was debate about what the wording on the question on the referendum would be and people were confused about what this implies and what will be the implications if there is a yes vote. but the leadership stress that this is about signalling unity with
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europe and also it's a very changed security situation now for europe since the russian invasion of ukraine and the it is about that. but of course there is a position some have worried thatjoining the eu where closer ties to the eu might undermine denmark's nato membership traditionally denmark has relied on nato as the core of its defence policy and its aligned itself towards the us and the uk and taking part in mental operations in afghanistan and iraq but what might happen is should denmark thought yes and it's possible that denmark may decide to get involved in eu missions. decide to get involved in eu mission—
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decide to get involved in eu missions. ,, , ,, ., missions. stay with us. still to come. missions. stay with us. still to come- peeple _ missions. stay with us. still to come. people in _ missions. stay with us. still to come. people in london - missions. stay with us. still to i come. people in london camping missions. stay with us. still to - come. people in london camping out for a good spot at the queens platinumjubilee for a good spot at the queens platinum jubilee celebrations. they will speak to our correspondent to find out how it's being received. borisjohnson said he considered questions about his future following the fight out of left on parties but insisted staying as promised there was the responsible approach. in an interview with a parenting website he said he was taken aback to be fine. today, plenty questions summing up the mood among the websites users. teeth? summing up the mood among the websites users.— websites users. why should we believe anything _ websites users. why should we believe anything you _ websites users. why should we believe anything you say - websites users. why should we believe anything you say when | websites users. why should we i believe anything you say when it's been proven you're a habitual liar? mrjohnson did not agree with that or that he should quit over the party gate affair will stop i thought about all these questions a
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lot and you can imagine i cannot see how it would be responsible right now given everything that is going on simply to abandon. the now given everything that is going on simply to abandon.— now given everything that is going on simply to abandon. the pro'ect on which i embarked. * on simply to abandon. the pro'ect on which i embarked. a h on simply to abandon. the pro'ect on which i embarked. a lot h on simply to abandon. the pro'ect on which i embarked. a lot of_ on simply to abandon. the project on which i embarked. a lot of people . which i embarked. a lot of people said ou which i embarked. a lot of people said you lost _ which i embarked. a lot of people said you lost the _ which i embarked. a lot of people said you lost the trust _ which i embarked. a lot of people said you lost the trust of - which i embarked. a lot of people said you lost the trust of the - said you lost the trust of the people and your government has lost trust and you can't possibly be infected by —— legacy about that. yesterday mrjohnson�*s ethics adviser pointed out it's a prime minister's duty to uphold the law but he has been find for breaking the law. mrjohnson insisted it was inadvertence the pressure is growing. inadvertence the pressure is curowin. ., , inadvertence the pressure is curowin. ~ , inadvertence the pressure is curowin. ~ ., , inadvertence the pressure is curowin. ~ ., ., growing. tory mps know they cannot trust a word — growing. tory mps know they cannot trust a word this _ growing. tory mps know they cannot trust a word this man _ growing. tory mps know they cannot trust a word this man says _ growing. tory mps know they cannot trust a word this man says where - trust a word this man says where nothing is being delivered. cabinet ministers have _ nothing is being delivered. cabinet ministers have been _ nothing is being delivered. cabinet ministers have been writing. - nothing is being delivered. cabinet i ministers have been writing. another accused mps ministers have been writing. another accused mp5 of pricing and many are wrestling with what's best to do. the mood has changed a bit in the
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country since the publication of the sucre report. mps will be going around and they will be listening carefully to what their constituents have to say. mr carefully to what their constituents have to say-— carefully to what their constituents havetosa. ~ �*,, ., ., have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour rom ted have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 _ have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps — have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps to _ have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps to call _ have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps to call for - have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps to call for him - have to say. mrjohnson's behaviour prompted 28 mps to call for him to | prompted 28 mp5 to call for him to go. 5a in total are needed to trigger a confidence vote. russia accused the us of escalating the conflict in ukraine after president biden promised to send advanced rocket systems to help ukrainian forces. this was the scene at midnight people allowed out of their homes for the first time since march the 27th. the lockdown was supposed
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to last 9 days it ended up being 65. 22 million people are now able to move more freely. public transport is open and some workers have returned to the office but there's still uncertainty. this is the chair of the eu chamber of commerce in shanghai. it remains to see how this new normal will look like and we still have to find out today is the first day in and got my window i can see more cars and buses in the streets with public transportation resumes and shops, department stores are open and people are slowly coming back to work. but it needs a little bit of time for preparation. because these announcements are not very clear. we wilco louw to virginia to a court room which you may recognise amber
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hurd has walked in and sat down. this is the defamation court case betweenjohnny depp and amber heard. it's been a trail that's been ongoing for six weeks. thejerry have been out considering their verdict for 13 hours and we are now expecting to hear their verdict in the next few minutes. we were told it would be at the top of the hour which is what 11 minutes or so away but we are cutting to these pictures because we just saw amber heard walking in. iwant because we just saw amber heard walking in. i want to remind you of the state of play here of where we are. amber heard and johnny depp were married. they split up. amber heard wrote an article in the washington post saying she had been a victim of abuse. she did not actually namejohnny depp butjohnny depp fell to the implication was clear. and he felt that affected his reputation and his career. so what
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he decided to do was sue amber heard for $50 million in response. amber heard counter sued for $100 million. so that led to this court case. it's been going on for six weeks and it's been going on for six weeks and it's been televised and at times it's been televised and at times it's been pretty brutal. very personal details, very difficult to listen to at times. allegations on both sides of their behaviour while they were married. we had allegations of abuse of course whichjohnny depp denies the allegations of drug taking, drug and alcohol fuelled binges the allegations of drug taking, drug and alcohol fuelled hinges on behalf ofjohnny depp and excruciating details, personal details which have great so many people and opinion polls in the usa this is one of the most popular which is not the right
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word but most searched for and followed news events even more than more substantial news stories. this has been particularly followed over the last six weeks and actually many on social media they reach their verdict and they have not actually waited for this a verdict from the jerry they have made up their own minds and amber heard spoke about the level of abuse that she has received online by people who are supporting johnny depp and have been attacking her and she spoke about the pain and the trauma and the difficulty that has caused her. those people on social media aside the now waits for the verdict of the jury the now waits for the verdict of the jury which of course is the important people here. seven people who must come to a unanimous decision and they are the ones who sat through all the evidence and it's damn who will be making the
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decision. that is go to our correspondent who's been following this trial. it seems now a few minutes to wait.— minutes to wait. yes. it's a racing came. minutes to wait. yes. it's a racing game- we — minutes to wait. yes. it's a racing game- we did get _ minutes to wait. yes. it's a racing game. we did get notification - game. we did get notification of this verdict was coming and we are waiting to see what thejerry has decided. thejury waiting to see what thejerry has decided. the jury of seven have to come back with a unanimous verdict. to give you a sense of what's happening at the courthouse. when you are waiting for verdicts it was very quiet and people where waiting and when we were told there was a verdict coming everyone sprang into action. there are fans making their way to the court. during the six—week trial that have been so many fans outside, hundreds of them largelyjohnny depp supporters to see a glimpse of him. i spoke to a 19—year—old who lives nearby and she said this is a once—in—a—lifetime opportunity and she said she came to seejohnny depp. i told herjohnny depp want to be here because he's in
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the uk but she said she was not disappointed by that she wanted to be here for the verdict. we know amber heard it inside court and we are waiting to see what that verdict will be as you mentioned unanimous and we are expecting to them verdicts. just to remind people watching is a case ofjohnny depp bringing defamation case against amber heard her but she is counter suing johnny depp as well. so the jerry will be delivering to verdicts on those defamation cases and that jerry would have to decide what damages to pay as well. that's what we are expecting from the seven jurors around about in the next seven minutes or so. he jurors around about in the next seven minutes or so.— seven minutes or so. he will come back to some _ seven minutes or so. he will come back to some details _ seven minutes or so. he will come back to some details we _ seven minutes or so. he will come back to some details we heard - seven minutes or so. he will come back to some details we heard a i seven minutes or so. he will come | back to some details we heard a bit later but i want to pick up because you are talking about the level of public interest and the atmosphere outside the court. i struggled to find the words in a way because this clearly is an issue that has gripped the country. it is polling more
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followed than plenty of the that potentially you could argue have more of a bearing on the life of america and the future of america than this. but you have to remember at the heart of this are to actually real human beings. this at the heart of this are to actually real human beings.— real human beings. this is real life. real human beings. this is real life- that _ real human beings. this is real life. that is — real human beings. this is real life. that is something - real human beings. this is real life. that is something both i real human beings. this is real life. that is something both of| real human beings. this is real- life. that is something both of them talked about when they were giving evidence on the stand. johnny depp said he wanted his life back and neck what he was at the same and talk about the abuse she suffered as well. and they've been here before. two years agojohnny depp sued the british tabloid the sun after they publish something which called him a wife beater and amber heard it was not her bracesjohnny depp it was johnny depp versus the newspaper and in the and dead jury, a judge ruled that most of the allegations made againstjohnny depp were true. they have been here before. what's different is that it's been televised. everyone has got to see
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the good, the bad, and the ugly of the good, the bad, and the ugly of the relationship. of when they were married. they went into such private personal intimate details about what they both went through. both of them accuse each other of violence, abuse, physicalabuse, mentalabuse, abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, psychological abuse, abuse, physicalabuse, mentalabuse, psychological abuse, they produce pictures and audio recordings and all sorts of evidence and witnesses to bolster that claim. these are two hollywood stars. particularlyjohnny hollywood stars. particularly johnny depp hollywood stars. particularlyjohnny depp who has been a hollywood star since 1983. he has been in some of the most iconic films that are lot of friends here have either associate with their childhood or his fans are very young as well so people feel deeply rooted to the case and their stories. and it's been playing out usually on social media. you'll hear many people say this is a tale of two trials. the one inside the and the one outside one inside the and the one outside on social media. everybody has an
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opinion on it even on social media. the fans out here. just that weekend i though i was having dinner at a restaurant and there was a table of women and they were just talking at length about this case. they were giving their opinions but their opinions don't really matter when it comes to the american justice system. the only opinions that matter are those opinions of the five men and two women inside the courthouse behind me. let five men and two women inside the courthouse behind me.— five men and two women inside the courthouse behind me. let us take a look at what — courthouse behind me. let us take a look at what we _ courthouse behind me. let us take a look at what we heard _ courthouse behind me. let us take a look at what we heard throughout i courthouse behind me. let us take a | look at what we heard throughout the six weeks of the trail. some of the details which we should warn people watching at home some of them are quite graphic and quite difficult. perhaps you could remind us we have the summing up from both lawyers at the summing up from both lawyers at the end of last week. remind us what their essential claims are for the clients. ., g ., , their essential claims are for the clients. ., . ., , , , , their essential claims are for the
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clients. ., i ., , , , , , their essential claims are for the clients. ., , , ,, , , clients. forjohnny depp, this is essential to _ clients. forjohnny depp, this is essential to the _ clients. forjohnny depp, this is essential to the article - clients. forjohnny depp, this is| essential to the article published in the washington post in 2018. in this article macro to talk about what it was like to be a survivor of domestic abuse. she never named johnny depp in the article. but he claims it was about him and it will and his reputation and let suffering damages in his career and becoming an outcast in hollywood so he sued herfor an outcast in hollywood so he sued her for $50 an outcast in hollywood so he sued herfor $50 million. his claim is he never laid a finger on her and he never laid a finger on her and he never abused her. she countersued him and claimed he had defamed her and he and his ex lawyer appeared in and he and his ex lawyer appeared in an article and his ex lawyer said her claims she sued him for a $100 million and basically you've got two cases that the jury has to decide. johnny depp is accusing amber heard of the framingham and amber heard is accusing johnny depp of defaming her. i'm defamation cases are quite difficult to win in this country
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because of the free speech laws. but both of them basicallyjohnny depp is saying he never was violent in the relationship and amber heard a saying she suffered ancel that's essentially what and where they both stand. it is a libel case and it's important to stress that whatever verdict comes back it depends if they both lose the case, that want to be a judgement on their account on relationship it would be a judgement on the defamation case. we have to see what the verdict will be. it is going to be one of the last times we hear from both of them. let us sayjohnny depp the jury them. let us sayjohnny depp the jury comes back and decides that they are not going to rule in favour ofjohnny depp that he could appeal the case. but that would require him to bring forward new witnesses and new testimony and new evidence and
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its legal experts say that's very unlikely. j its legal experts say that's very unlikel . ., , its legal experts say that's very unlikel . ., ., , its legal experts say that's very unlikel. ., ., , its legal experts say that's very unlikel . ., ., , ., unlikely. i was about to put you on the sot unlikely. i was about to put you on the spot with _ unlikely. i was about to put you on the spot with your _ unlikely. i was about to put you on the spot with your legal— unlikely. i was about to put you on| the spot with your legal knowledge which is unfair of me but we know broadly defamation cases in the us are pretty challenging to lean. == are pretty challenging to lean. -- women. are pretty challenging to lean. » women. they are. the threshold here is higher than the threshold in the uk case and rememberjohnny depp lost that case. that is because of the free speech and that's what amber heard's lawyers have argued. the article was published was her free speech. the crucial thing here the jurors have to answer 2a questions in terms of the case that johnny depp brought against amber heard. in those questions they have to decide was the article about johnny depp, was it written by amber heard and wasn't done with malice? that's the key word. did she do a feeling she was making a false
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statement and did she do it recklessly and that a high threshold get over. we recklessly and that a high threshold aet over. ~ ., ., ., i ., ., get over. we are going to give you a break to listen _ get over. we are going to give you a break to listen in. _ get over. we are going to give you a break to listen in. we _ get over. we are going to give you a break to listen in. we can _ get over. we are going to give you a break to listen in. we can see - get over. we are going to give you a break to listen in. we can see the i break to listen in. we can see the courtroom filling up quite substantially. we still have not seen the judge who is vital to these proceedings when we do see the judge coming of course we will be silent and listening to that. but they seem to be standing up now. it seems like it's is the moment the judge will be walking in and as they sit back down i'm assuming the camera will switch around. we will now listen in. regardless of the verdict, i will not tolerate any outburst whatsoever.—

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