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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  June 9, 2022 7:00pm-8:01pm BST

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hello and welcome to your thursday one show,
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live on bbc one and iplayer, with alex jones. and welcome back to roman kemp. you were busy last weekend and you were brilliant, by the way. how was it, you were the man with all the gossip? i was lucky enough to slip into the after party after the party at the palace and into the after party after the party at the palac— at the palace and let me tell you, that was a — at the palace and let me tell you, that was a big _ at the palace and let me tell you, that was a big drop _ at the palace and let me tell you, that was a big drop already, - at the palace and let me tell you, that was a big drop already, with | that was a big drop already, with the royals, and the best thing about it, you would think at the end of a party at buckingham palace they would slowly and cautiously usher everybody out, but theyjust would slowly and cautiously usher everybody out, but they just switch the lights are, just the same as they do in destiny nightclub in watford. —— the lights off. they do in destiny nightclub in watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? _ watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? yes, _ watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? yes, very _ watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? yes, very nice. - watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? yes, very nice. i- watford. -- the lights off. drinks and food? yes, very nice. i felt. and food? yes, very nice. i felt very regal- _ and food? yes, very nice. i felt very regal- you _ and food? yes, very nice. i felt very regal. you deserve - and food? yes, very nice. i felt very regal. you deserve it. - we've got a great show for you —
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including a brilliant one big thank you. tonight it's the turn of 17—year—old daniel lewis forfighting as soldiers in ukraine's military, after a short trial in russian held territory, aiden aslin and shaun pinner have been told they face the death penalty. if you're watching this, it means that we have surrendered. this was aiden aslin�*s last message to family and friends before he was captured. if you're watching this, it means that we have surrendered. this was aiden aslin�*s last message to family and friends before he was captured. run out of ammunition, didn't really have any other choice than to surrender. he had spent weeks defending the besieged city of mariupol, before his unit had to give themselves up. to lay down our arms and head towards the russian soldiers. days later, his family in nottinghamshire watched as footage of him emerged looking bruised and in handcuffs on pro—russian media outlets, being interrogated about his actions. footage of prisoners of war being paraded on television is viewed as a breach of the geneva conventions. there have been many ukrainian soldiers captured during the fighting but it is pretty clear, as british men in this conflict, their treatment has been very different. now, the court footage shows them only answering that they were happy for the trial to proceed without witnesses. but it is unclear, of course, what duress they may have been under.
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what has happened today i think is one of the most extraordinary things i have seen in recent years. british citizens being in a show trial and then condemned to death for no reason whatsoever. the russian ambassador and the russian government need to know they won't get away with this. since the russian invasion of ukraine, many foreign fighters have travelled there to join the international legion and other groups helping to defend the country. but aiden aslin and shaun pinner were different. they had been fighting in ukraine's military for a number of years. aiden aslin passed out as a marine after moving to ukraine in 2018 and was engaged to be married to a ukrainian. but russian channels have called the men foreign mercenaries, and are reporting that they will face a firing squad. the foreign secretary liz truss has called it a sham judgment with no legitimacy. theirfamilies are hoping it may be possible to negotiate a prisoner exchange.
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but for now, for their involvement in ukraine's conflict, they have become part of russia's propaganda war. emma vardy, bbc news. our international correspondent orla guerin is in eastern ukraine. with more and what we know about the sentences. it is also unclear if there will be any attempt to actually carry out these sentences. they have been handed down by a court that is not internationally recognised, in a self—declared republic, the dpr, which is not recognised by anyone except russia. there is little doubt that the officials in the dpr actually take their orders from the kremlin, so this is very much a verdict from president putin, and it seems like a tactic to pressure britain, to embarrass britain, which has been a staunch supporter of ukraine since the war began, has sent a great deal of weaponry, including weaponry in use here in the donbas, and of course recently promised to send more advanced weapons systems into the battlefield here.
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the ukrainian government has given a brief initial response, saying that the trial was propaganda and that the men had the legal status of combatants. that view has been echoed by a legal expert in the uk who has said that this verdict and this trial is in fact a breach of international humanitarian law and of the geneva convention. but i think there was a certain inevitability about this. once ukraine started prosecuting russian soldiers, as it has done, three have already been convicted, once those trials were under way for war crimes, i think it was inevitable that we were going to see this kind of tit—for—tat persecution taking place, and of course, for vladimir putin, the opportunity to prosecute british combatants is something that clearly he didn't want to miss. something that clearly we don't know at this stage of any death penalty sentence has ever been carried out in the dpr. let's turn to the battle on the ground in the donbas. we know that fighting in severodonetsk, and nearby city lysychansk, has been intense.
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they're both important strategic targets for russia. if captured, it would give them control of the entire luhansk region. we've heard from ukraine's president zelensky — he visited the frontline this week. translation: this is a very fierce battle, a very difficult one. - probably one of the most difficult during this war. i am grateful to everyone who is defending this direction. in many ways, the fate of our donbas is being decided there. while ukrainian forces are managing to hold out for now — they remain outnumbered. the ukrainian defence minister said: "the situation at the front is tough. up to 100 of our fighters are killed everyday and up to 500 wounded." and we can show you these pictures showing smoke rising in the city of severodonetsk, reportedly from shelling. let's hear from yuriy sak, who's the advisor to ukraine's defence minister. the aims of our enemy are extensive, they go beyond donbas, they actually go beyond ukraine. so we are doing everything we can with the means
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that we have at our disposal at the moment to hold on, to keep our defences in severodonetsk, in luhansk, and of course this war, the course of this war will be decided, _ i will repeat, by the pace at which ukraine receives the military support from our international partners _ and as to what russia has to say about all this, here's its deputy ambassador to the united nations, dmitry polyanskiy, speaking to the bbc. as far as i understand, the situation in severodonetsk is totally under our control, and only the industrial part of the city is still being controlled partially by ukrainian forces. but i think military specialists know better than myself. i know that we have a total strategic initiative in the donbas. today we've also heard from the russian president — he's been speaking to a meeting of young entrepreneurs in moscow. and in apparentjustification of moscow's invasion of ukraine,
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he compared himself to the 18th—century russian monarch peter the great. translation: peter the great waged in the northern _ translation: peter the great waged in the northern wall _ translation: peter the great waged in the northern wall for _ translation: peter the great waged in the northern wall for 21 _ translation: peter the great waged in the northern wall for 21 years, - in the northern wall for 21 years, you could take you was fighting this reading and seizing territories, he wasn't, he was regaining territory. regaining land and consolidating. that is what he was doing. now it seems it is our turn to regain land and consolidate. our correspondent joe inwood is in kyiv. we are hearing they are in a tough spot, the ukrainians, in severodonetsk, is there anyway for them to turn it around? it is difficult to — them to turn it around? it is difficult to know, _ them to turn it around? it is difficult to know, the - them to turn it around? it 3 difficult to know, the first thing to say is how difficult it has been to say is how difficult it has been to get information from the ground in severodonetsk. the mobile signals are cut, we don't think there are anyjournalists there, feeding
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information out, all we have is the words that come from both sides, and they are often partisan. we understand it has been a to—and—fro, back—and—forth, the russians were on the offensive, they took 8% of the city at one point, ukrainian counterattack took some of that back but now it seems the ukraine is have been proved quite a long wait back. one of the things i thought was interesting when listening to president zelensky last night, when he talked about the fight for severodonetsk has the fifa donbas, that isn't what they ukrainian strategists have been saying —— fight fan donbas. they said it has been the city of three just across the river from severodonetsk, been the city of three just across the riverfrom severodonetsk, they sit either side of the strategically important river. it is lysychansk thatis important river. it is lysychansk that is more important. mcafee is on a hill, it overlooks a river which the russians would have to cross —— lysychansk the russians would have to cross —— lysycha nsk is the russians would have to cross —— lysychansk is on a hill. things are
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looking bad for the ukrainians in severodonetsk, but they do have fallback positions, they have been preparing. i5 fallback positions, they have been preparing. is it fallback positions, they have been --rearina. , ,,, ., fallback positions, they have been ”rearing , , ., ~' ., preparing. is it possible to know, ou have preparing. is it possible to know, you have mentioned _ preparing. is it possible to know, you have mentioned in _ preparing. is it possible to know, you have mentioned in difficult i preparing. is it possible to know, | you have mentioned in difficult to get information verified, but in lysychansk, do we know the situation there when it comes to the balance of power between the russians and ukrainian forces? that of power between the russians and ukrainian forces?— of power between the russians and ukrainian forces? at the moment in l s chansk ukrainian forces? at the moment in lysychansk it _ ukrainian forces? at the moment in lysychansk it is _ ukrainian forces? at the moment in lysychansk it is behind _ lysychansk it is behind severodonetsk, the russians haven't got there yet, they have been bombarding it, try to destroy the city with heavy artillery, as they have done in mariupol and other places, so if severodonetsk falls, lysychansk places, so if severodonetsk falls, lysycha nsk would places, so if severodonetsk falls, lysychansk would be next, but to do that, to get there, the russians would have to cross a very steep river bank down across the river severodonetsk and fight their way up the hill, it will be really hard if the hill, it will be really hard if the russians get there. we have heard so much _ the russians get there. we have heard so much over _ the russians get there. we have heard so much over the - the russians get there. we have heard so much over the past - the russians get there. we have i heard so much over the past week the russians get there. we have - heard so much over the past week or so about promises made by the uk and
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us to provide more lethal aid to the ukrainians. is any of that insight? i know particularly mr zelensky and others would hope that might change the game in the east of the country. yes, a lot of that is worth saying, has been in the fight since the start, some of the anti—armour missiles, the question is wednesday more heavy equipment get here? especially heavy artillery, —— when does the more. they think they are waiting for r these multiple launch rocket systems that the americans and british promise. they haven't promised them in huge numbers, list antennas it stands, the ukrainians have said they need more, but even the small number they have promised are not here yet, they require training and deployment to the front line which is dangerous because of the risk of rushing air attacks. but those are supposed to be something of a game changer. as the ukrainian
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say, in the numbers they are coming, they will not turn the tide of this war. ., ~' they will not turn the tide of this war. ., ~ , ., it's been almost 18 months since the attack on capitol hill in the us. now, a detailed account of what exactly happened on the day is being made public in a series of hearings — the first taking place today. scenes like these are being investigatged — when a mob of donald trump supporters stormed congress. for 11 months, a house committee has been investigating the events of that day — sixth january, 2021 — with the actions of the former president part of the focus. there have been more than 1000 interviews, and more than 100,00 documents collected. for a closer look at how we got to these hearings, here's barbara plett usher in washington. it was an astonishing attack on democracy. the capitol, stormed by supporters of a defeated president trying to overturn
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the 2020 election results. the investigation into how and why it happened is the most sweeping ever conducted by congress. but much is already known because these graphic scenes played out on television screens in real time. we fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country any more. and president trump's fighting words that day echoed around the world. what happened here was shocking. it was dramatic, and it was a year and a half ago. americans have a lot of other things on their minds right now. so the committee is hoping to grab their attention with a blockbuster event with video and testimony and new details, arguing that the threat to democracy still remains. the committee is determined to shape the narrative of that tumultuous day. it's focused on what the president did and when he did it. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. from the point when he refused
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to accept thatjoe biden had won the election and took steps to "stop the steal", to the day when congress gathered to certify the vote, what was his goal? did he want his supporters to go this far? and were the militias who marched to the capitol part of a conspiracy directed from the top? more than 800 of the rioters have been charged. the big question is whether the president will also be prosecuted. the committee only has the power to recommend legal action. i think that the committee believes he has committed crimes. a federaljudge has actually ruled that he likely committed a felony conspiracy to do what he did. but whether the justice department takes that view, i think that's going to be a much longer story. the story is also about the role played by trump's aides and loyalist republican lawmakers. the committee has examined their private communications. they rejected subpoenas to testify. and after initial criticism, the party has rallied around trump. john bresnahan was inside the capitol building the day of the riot.
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to see a crowd of americans openly attacking us capitol police is just stunning. he's reported on the investigation since, but in this toxic partisan atmosphere, what can be achieved? it's important still for congress to do this. ido... whether or not it changes anything, congress has to put down a marker. there can't be an attack on the capitol and congress doesn't respond. the political stakes are high because democrats could lose their congressional majority in midterm elections. they'll be trying to persuade voters to hold republicans accountable for the capitol attack. barbara plett usher, bbc news, washington. one of those attending the opening day of these public hearings is erin smith. her husband jeff was one of four officers who died by suicide in the days after they defended the capitol. laura trevelyan has been speaking to erin about her fight to get his suicide recognised as a death in the line of duty. jeff was funny. he was always joking around.
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just a happy person, liked to have fun and a good person to be around. and how important was hisjob to him? it was very important. obviously there were days that were good and days that were bad, but overall he enjoyed being a police officer and it was his calling to be one. erin smith's late husband jeff was a dc police officer who responded to the attack on the us capitol on january the 6th. in the lead—up to january the 6th, did you talk withjeff about the fact that thousands of people were descending on the capital to protest joe biden�*s election certification? let's have trial by combat! neither of us expected it to turn into what it did. this is the violent chaos jeff went through. this footage comes from the body cam he was wearing, which erin's lawyer had to fight to obtain. jeff was brutally assaulted,
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and his head was wounded. i knew he was in there, and i knew he was in a building he was unfamiliar with, which was even more stressful to think about. he was just told to go, and that's what he did. and when you did get to talk tojeff about what happened, what did he tell you? jeff said that january 6th was the worst day of his life. and how did jeff's mood change in the days after the attack? he immediately withdrew himself from the situation, from everything in the house. he just kept to himself, became quiet. was he worried about going back to work? he didn't want to go back. he was still in a lot of pain, but they told him to come back and when you're ordered, you're ordered. on january the 15th, nine days after he was attacked defending the capitol, jeff smith died by suicide on his way to work.
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a police officer showed up at my door and told me that he was no longer with us. in the aftermath ofjeff�*s death, erin says she didn't get the support needed from the police department or the city of washington, dc. jeff died by suicide, which is frowned upon and not accepted within police departments. and they basically wanted nothing to do with what happened. that must�*ve been very hurtful. it was. there's a stigma around it, and theyjust don't want to accept that the job can take a toll on your mental health. but after a year—long fight, the police retirement board ruled thatjeff smith's suicide was a death in the line of duty. it's a hugely important ruling for erin and potentially others in her position.
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it's a turning of a page, if you will, for suicides to be recognised as line of duty and not brushed under the rug. the january 6th committee is holding public hearings this month ofjune. what do you think those hearings could achieve? i hope the hearings bring to light that for those that can't accept what happened, that it did happen, and i hope it proves to all americans that on that day, we could've lost our democracy, we could've lost everything that this country has worked towards. the house committee is hoping for a huge audience — so much so, the first of the hearings on thursday is scheduled for prime time television. (david folkenflik is media correspondent with national public radio
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and joins me now from new york. are all the networks covering it? all with one exception, the major broadcast networks, abc, the major cable channels, cnn, the exception is fox news, the most watched cable network, it is devoting coverage on its sister channel, the business network, which typically add that time has an audience the tenth of the size. did time has an audience the tenth of the size. , , _ j time has an audience the tenth of the size-— their i the size. did they say why? they basically say _ the size. did they say why? they basically say they _ the size. did they say why? they basically say they are _ the size. did they say why? they basically say they are offering i the size. did they say why? they l basically say they are offering this through their streaming services, website for free, but if you don't have a subscription you can watch it on the business channel, you can watch it anywhere you want. what they are really doing is trying not to alienate their audience, their core viewers neatly overlap with core viewers neatly overlap with core supporters of donald trump who do not want to hear about what
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happened onjanuary do not want to hear about what happened on january six, do not want to hear about what happened onjanuary six, both in terms of the insurrection and of the plotting around it, seemingly illegal plot to block the recognition rightfully of president—elect biden in office. they are concerned about alienating those core viewers and so why take their prime—time line—up of the air? this not forget who they are, sean hennessy, he was one of president trump us close advisers, still is, if you think about tucker carlson, he was someone the lead propagator of the idea, untrue, that what happened onjanuary of the idea, untrue, that what happened on january six of the idea, untrue, that what happened onjanuary six was just of the idea, untrue, that what happened on january six was just a protest that got out of control and there was no effort to block the workings of democracy. so i think that fox is in a tension in doing some coverage with realjournalists on what is happening but keeping it away from the people who might turn to prime—time. the away from the people who might turn to prime-time—
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to prime-time. the country are so divided but _ to prime-time. the country are so divided but do _ to prime-time. the country are so divided but do you _ to prime-time. the country are so divided but do you think— to prime-time. the country are so divided but do you think away - to prime-time. the country are so| divided but do you think away from the fox viewers that people will tune in? is that what is expected? i think you will probably see perhaps more than 10 million people will tune into the first night, it will be across all these networks, which evenin be across all these networks, which even in the age of steam and can command an audience. it will go viral and you will see hard news organisations and point of view outlets push a lot of the more poignant or pungent moments to prove a point and a lot of backlash against it. there is already an effort to discount its importance on fox from republican house leaders and from supporters of president trump and those who seek the support of his voters. to say that this is partisanship, this is a moment where they are trying to craft something so compelling on tv that it punches through. i so compelling on tv that it punches throu~h. ., , so compelling on tv that it punches throu~h. ., ., so compelling on tv that it punches throu~h. .,, . ,, so compelling on tv that it punches throu~h. ., through. i was reading it, you can tell me whether— through. i was reading it, you can tell me whether you _ through. i was reading it, you can tell me whether you have - through. i was reading it, you can tell me whether you have seen i through. i was reading it, you can i tell me whether you have seen this, not confirmed by the january six
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committee, but a big—time tv producer was being brought in to help reduce the hearings, have you heard that?— heard that? yes, i have confirmed that with celsius, with _ heard that? yes, i have confirmed that with celsius, with direct - that with celsius, with direct knowledge that james goldstein and originally, naturalised american citizen, came to this country from your nation, led abc news, was a top producer of some of their most popular programmes, before that he left and consulted for the committee, he has told associates that he leaves this is a civic function that he is fulfilling, not a partisan one and not a governmental one, he is trying to help them sculpt a narrative using videos, videotaped testimony, video taped from the day, footage from documentary makers, records they have obtained to subpoenas and voluntary submissions, unpublished photos from the official white house photographer and what was happening that day to depict not only what was
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happening in terms of the violin malay that erupted of people trying to upset the election result but what was going on legally behind—the—scenes. what we are led to believe was that there was going to believe was that there was going to believe was that there was going to be a narrative arc going on in terms of each day in which we will hear testimony, terms of each day in which we will heartestimony, but terms of each day in which we will hear testimony, but also the overarching propulsion, the direction, how things are tilt as people do on your network and my own. i people do on your network and my own. ~' people do on your network and my own. ~ h, people do on your network and my own. ~ ,., ., ., , own. i think some of our viewers miaht be own. i think some of our viewers might be wondering, _ own. i think some of our viewers might be wondering, why - own. i think some of our viewers might be wondering, why is - own. i think some of our viewers might be wondering, why is this| might be wondering, why is this taking place at all? you have mentioned fox viewers not tuning in and their channel deciding not to ring it forfear of and their channel deciding not to ring it for fear of alienating them. surely people have already made up their minds full. what is the impetus to have this? you their minds full. what is the impetus to have this? their minds full. what is the im etus to have this? ., u, ., impetus to have this? you can argue, are certainly — impetus to have this? you can argue, are certainly the _ impetus to have this? you can argue, are certainly the former _ impetus to have this? you can argue, are certainly the former president's i are certainly the former president's supporters have, this is a partisan witchhunt although there are two republican figures on that committee
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as well. part of more congressional oversight entails is a check on the executive branch of government, is the right to determine what occurred in important civic events, let's not forget the nature of this, it involved a violent attack on the congress itself, part of the seat of federal government in the us, and it involved an intentional effort to block and thwart the rightful workings of the democratic process. in that way, congress has a right to set out a fact pattern to present that to the people.— set out a fact pattern to present that to the people. thank you for “oininu that to the people. thank you for joining us- _ that to the people. thank you for joining us- i— that to the people. thank you for joining us. i want _ that to the people. thank you for joining us. i want to _ that to the people. thank you for joining us. i want to let - that to the people. thank you for joining us. i want to let our - joining us. i want to let our viewers know that we have two special programmes for the heroes coming up on bbc world news. it will look at the role of the far right, and also what viewers should look for when those hearings start, and then we have the hearings themselves
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with extra commentary, analysis, presented by laura trevelyan and pleat in washington, dc, sounds like it will be fascinating. hello. it was a cloudy day today with some rain in western parts of the country. tomorrow, a lot of sunshine in the forecast. however, it is going to be very blustery pretty much everywhere, and that wind is with us for the next couple of days. it's brought this area of low pressure, quite an extensive area of low pressure. it's actually an old tropical storm or the remnants of a tropical storm which formed in the gulf of mexico. and here it is, you can see on the satellite picture, that curl of cloud swirling into the centre of the low and it'll be pushing to the north—west of us. so, through the course of the night, i think it's breezy in the north west of the uk, but generally speaking, it is a dry night. and the temperatures first thing in the morning on friday around 15 in the south east there in london, 12 degrees in northern ireland
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and scotland and even in those colder spots. so, certainly not particularly chilly tonight. now, tomorrow morning, sunshine from the word go with scattered fairweather clouds which will be quickly pushed by that strong south—westerly wind. to the north—west, i think here showers, some of them could be heavy, but plenty of sunny spells around as well. and the gusts of wind up to 40—50 mph around the coasts here. towards the south, it'll be closer to 30 mph. on friday, the pollen levels will also be very high widely across england and wales. if you're a hay fever sufferer, that is not good news for tomorrow. here's a look at saturday's weather map. the low pressure's just to the north of us, quite a few isobars there, so it means strong winds. if anything, across england and wales, the winds will be even stronger on saturday. they'll get very gusty in the afternoon. that's what tends to happen during the summer months. so, warm and windy for many of us on saturday with a scattering of showers, most frequent in the north west of the uk.
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that was saturday, this is sunday. and i think that low pressure by this stage is lifting away the north. a few showers here across scotland, maybe northern ireland and north—western england, but to the south, we've high pressure building, lifting in from the south. so, the winds die down, and it's going to feel very present. pleasant. so, let's have a look at the outlook for the next few days. yes, a few showers in the forecast, but on the whole, as far as the weekend is concerned, it is not looking bad at all. that's it from me. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern, this is outside source. our top story... to britons and the moroccan who were captured by russian forces while fighting for ukraine had been sentenced to death ljy ukraine had been sentenced to death by a russian proxy court. to golf at the us pga tour which runs a main golf tournaments in the us is suspended 17 players who have joined the rival liv series that is backed by saudi arabia. let's turn to another aspect of the conflict
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in ukraine, the food crisis. we've seen a stark warning from the un today about global food insecurity. remember, ukraine is one of the world's biggest exporters of grain, chiefly transported by sea. so with russia blockading the ports, that grain has no way of getting out. and we know these port cities are also being shelled. for instance, this satellite image shows one agriculatural storage facility in the port city of mykolaiv, and this shows the facility after bombardment. you can see it's been completely destroyed. president zelensky has addressed this. have a listen. translation: it is not just a price crisis. - we cannot explore our wheat, corn, seed oil and other goods, which used to play a stabilising role on the global food market. it means that unfortunately a real shortage of food may occur in dozens and dozens of countries. millions of people may starve if the russian blockade
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of the black sea continues. essentially, the food crisis means the world's poorest countries are paying more for less food. ukraine is one of the world's largest exporters of cereal crops and oils. before the war, for instance, 12% of global wheat exports came from ukraine. and that means some countries, chiefly in africa and the middle east, will be hit hard. to give you an idea, libya relies on ukraine for over half its wheat. lebanon around 60%. and we know that in parts of kenya, ethiopia and somalia, aid agencies are warning of the risk of famine. more on this from bbc monitoring's beverly ochieng. she's in nairobi. africa has been caught in the crosshairs of this conflict. the immediate headlines on the continent when the war broke out were not so much about the front—line fighting. they were about the food and fuel shortages that were looming and the cost of living being driven up. and much of this is coming to fruition, and it's interesting
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that zelensky is now pointing towards the situation in africa with what is happening. we're seeing that wheat and cereal prices have been driven up by shortages, so staples like bread or others are quickly becoming out of reach. and it's easy to say that maybe african countries could turn some of their vast tracts of land into arable agriculture, but this requires heavy mechanisation. and the immediate pressure for food cannot easily be reversed by immediately turning large chunks of land in agriculture because of the rain—fed nature of agriculture and the impact of climate as well as this conflict. so, we know that millions of tonnes of ukrainian grain remain trapped in the country. and getting it to those who need it most poses quite a few logistical problems, a main one being naval mines. the water around ports like odesa is filled with them. any grain corridor would need the mines to be removed. russia says the onus is on ukraine to do this. "the ball is in their court," the russian foreign minister said yesterday. but, "mines are absolutely a secondary topic," says ukraine, claiming their removal would leave
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them vulnerable to russian attacks. let's talk now to ryan ramsey, a former nuclear attack submarine captain for britain's royal navy. welcome to outside source. just how difficult would it be to remove those minds?— difficult would it be to remove those minds? , those minds? good evening. yes he will be a very _ those minds? good evening. yes he will be a very difficult _ those minds? good evening. yes he will be a very difficult operation - will be a very difficult operation for a _ will be a very difficult operation for a variety _ will be a very difficult operation for a variety of _ will be a very difficult operation for a variety of factors. - will be a very difficult operation for a variety of factors. firstly, i for a variety of factors. firstly, where — for a variety of factors. firstly, where the _ for a variety of factors. firstly, where the mind _ for a variety of factors. firstly, where the mind to _ for a variety of factors. firstly, where the mind to been - for a variety of factors. firstly, where the mind to been laid, i where the mind to been laid, the ukrainians— where the mind to been laid, the ukrainians know— where the mind to been laid, the ukrainians know where the - ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? — ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? and _ ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? and could _ ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? and could you - ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? and could you get - ukrainians know where the solutions are exactly? and could you get the i are exactly? and could you get the ti l ht are exactly? and could you get the right forces — are exactly? and could you get the right forces in _ are exactly? and could you get the right forces in their _ are exactly? and could you get the right forces in their to _ are exactly? and could you get the right forces in their to be _ are exactly? and could you get the right forces in their to be able - are exactly? and could you get the right forces in their to be able to l right forces in their to be able to conduct — right forces in their to be able to conduct the _ right forces in their to be able to conduct the mine _ right forces in their to be able to conduct the mine clearance - conduct the mine clearance operations_ conduct the mine clearance operations need to - conduct the mine clearance operations need to be - conduct the mine clearance i operations need to be done? conduct the mine clearance - operations need to be done? iirlr�*iith operations need to be done? with minds as well, _ operations need to be done? with minds as well, can _ operations need to be done? minds as well, can you explain operations need to be done?- minds as well, can you explain to me because i'm reading about them the last few days but are they attached to something or are they floating in the water? try to give our viewers a sense of what they are up against. sure, there are a variety of different— sure, there are a variety of different minds that - sure, there are a variety of different minds that exist. | sure, there are a variety of- different minds that exist. there are some — different minds that exist. there are some that— different minds that exist. there are some that are _ different minds that exist. there are some that are tethered - different minds that exist. there - are some that are tethered basically to the _ are some that are tethered basically to the sea _ are some that are tethered basically to the sea bed — are some that are tethered basically to the sea bed and _ are some that are tethered basically to the sea bed and they— are some that are tethered basically to the sea bed and they stay- are some that are tethered basically to the sea bed and they stay in - to the sea bed and they stay in one position— to the sea bed and they stay in one position and — to the sea bed and they stay in one position and there _ to the sea bed and they stay in one position and there are also - to the sea bed and they stay in one position and there are also those . position and there are also those that are — position and there are also those that are floating _ position and there are also those that are floating minds, - position and there are also those that are floating minds, once - position and there are also those -
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that are floating minds, once people would _ that are floating minds, once people would see _ that are floating minds, once people would see in— that are floating minds, once people would see in it — that are floating minds, once people would see in it would _ that are floating minds, once people would see in it would work— that are floating minds, once people would see in it would work to - would see in it would work to movies. _ would see in it would work to movies. they— would see in it would work to movies, they still— would see in it would work to movies, they still exist - would see in it would work to movies, they still exist and l would see in it would work to - movies, they still exist and there are some. — movies, they still exist and there are some. gated _ movies, they still exist and there are some, gated minds— movies, they still exist and there are some, gated minds that - movies, they still exist and there are some, gated minds that are i movies, they still exist and there i are some, gated minds that are also sea bed _ are some, gated minds that are also sea bed located. _ are some, gated minds that are also sea bed located. so— are some, gated minds that are also sea bed located. so knowing - are some, gated minds that are also sea bed located. so knowing where. sea bed located. so knowing where those _ sea bed located. so knowing where those minds — sea bed located. so knowing where those minds are _ sea bed located. so knowing where those minds are and _ sea bed located. so knowing where those minds are and where - sea bed located. so knowing where those minds are and where you - sea bed located. so knowing where those minds are and where you lay| those minds are and where you lay them _ those minds are and where you lay them initially— those minds are and where you lay them initially is— those minds are and where you lay them initially is the _ those minds are and where you lay them initially is the only _ those minds are and where you lay them initially is the only way - those minds are and where you lay them initially is the only way of. them initially is the only way of knowing — them initially is the only way of knowing whether you _ them initially is the only way of knowing whether you will - them initially is the only way of knowing whether you will be i them initially is the only way of l knowing whether you will be able them initially is the only way of - knowing whether you will be able to recover _ knowing whether you will be able to recover them — knowing whether you will be able to recover them effectively. _ knowing whether you will be able to recover them effectively. find - knowing whether you will be able to recover them effectively.— recover them effectively. and how lona recover them effectively. and how long would — recover them effectively. and how long would it _ recover them effectively. and how long would it take _ recover them effectively. and how long would it take you _ recover them effectively. and how long would it take you for - recover them effectively. and how long would it take you for the - recover them effectively. and how long would it take you for the fact| long would it take you for the fact there was some sort of diplomatic agreement and assurances which i know we are not there yet? how long would it take to the mind that area? i think if you look at the area that has been — i think if you look at the area that has been declared _ i think if you look at the area that has been declared as— i think if you look at the area that has been declared as being - i think if you look at the area thatj has been declared as being mind, i think if you look at the area that . has been declared as being mind, it is exceptionally— has been declared as being mind, it is exceptionally large _ has been declared as being mind, it is exceptionally large and _ has been declared as being mind, it is exceptionally large and i- has been declared as being mind, it is exceptionally large and i think- is exceptionally large and i think there _ is exceptionally large and i think there are — is exceptionally large and i think there are three _ is exceptionally large and i think there are three issues— is exceptionally large and i think there are three issues that - is exceptionally large and i think there are three issues that go i is exceptionally large and i think. there are three issues that go with clearing _ there are three issues that go with clearing them _ there are three issues that go with clearing them. the _ there are three issues that go with clearing them. the first _ there are three issues that go with clearing them. the first one - there are three issues that go with clearing them. the first one in- clearing them. the first one in order— clearing them. the first one in order to — clearing them. the first one in order to do _ clearing them. the first one in order to do it, _ clearing them. the first one in order to do it, you _ clearing them. the first one in order to do it, you need - clearing them. the first one in. order to do it, you need vessels that are — order to do it, you need vessels that are capable _ order to do it, you need vessels that are capable of— order to do it, you need vessels that are capable of it _ order to do it, you need vessels that are capable of it and - order to do it, you need vessels that are capable of it and they. that are capable of it and they don't — that are capable of it and they don't have _ that are capable of it and they don't have a _ that are capable of it and they don't have a lot _ that are capable of it and they don't have a lot of _ that are capable of it and they don't have a lot of ships - that are capable of it and they don't have a lot of ships that. that are capable of it and they. don't have a lot of ships that are very— don't have a lot of ships that are very capable _ don't have a lot of ships that are very capable of— don't have a lot of ships that are very capable of mine _ don't have a lot of ships that are very capable of mine clearance i don't have a lot of ships that are . very capable of mine clearance but to get them — very capable of mine clearance but to get them into _ very capable of mine clearance but to get them into the _ very capable of mine clearance but to get them into the area, - very capable of mine clearance but to get them into the area, you - very capable of mine clearance butl to get them into the area, you have to get them into the area, you have to negotiate a — to get them into the area, you have to negotiate a deal— to get them into the area, you have to negotiate a deal with _ to get them into the area, you have to negotiate a deal with the - to negotiate a deal with the russians— to negotiate a deal with the russians and _ to negotiate a deal with the russians and there - to negotiate a deal with the russians and there is - to negotiate a deal with the russians and there is a - to negotiate a deal with the russians and there is a realj to negotiate a deal with the - russians and there is a real trust issue _ russians and there is a real trust issue as — russians and there is a real trust issue as you _ russians and there is a real trust issue as you would _ russians and there is a real trust issue as you would expect - russians and there is a real trust . issue as you would expect between russians _ issue as you would expect between russians and — issue as you would expect between russians and risk— issue as you would expect between russians and risk of— issue as you would expect between russians and risk of escalation - issue as you would expect between russians and risk of escalation and | russians and risk of escalation and also would — russians and risk of escalation and also would go _ russians and risk of escalation and also would go to _ russians and risk of escalation and also would go to the _ russians and risk of escalation and also would go to the bosporus - russians and risk of escalation and i also would go to the bosporus which is sure _ also would go to the bosporus which is sure the _ also would go to the bosporus which is sure the military— also would go to the bosporus which
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is sure the military vessels - also would go to the bosporus which is sure the military vessels that - is sure the military vessels that would _ is sure the military vessels that would mean _ is sure the military vessels that would mean turkey— is sure the military vessels that would mean turkey and - is sure the military vessels thati would mean turkey and needing is sure the military vessels that. would mean turkey and needing to change _ would mean turkey and needing to change its — would mean turkey and needing to change its view— would mean turkey and needing to change its view on _ would mean turkey and needing to change its view on how— would mean turkey and needing to change its view on how that - would mean turkey and needing to i change its view on how that happens. and then of— change its view on how that happens. and then of course _ change its view on how that happens. and then of course it's _ change its view on how that happens. and then of course it's liaison - change its view on how that happens. and then of course it's liaison with i and then of course it's liaison with the ukrainians— and then of course it's liaison with the ukrainians to _ and then of course it's liaison with the ukrainians to make _ and then of course it's liaison with the ukrainians to make sure - and then of course it's liaison with the ukrainians to make sure there| and then of course it's liaison with l the ukrainians to make sure there is no new_ the ukrainians to make sure there is no new engagements _ the ukrainians to make sure there is no new engagements while - the ukrainians to make sure there is no new engagements while those i the ukrainians to make sure there is. no new engagements while those mine clearance _ no new engagements while those mine clearance operations _ no new engagements while those mine clearance operations take _ no new engagements while those mine clearance operations take place. - no new engagements while those mine clearance operations take place. so - clearance operations take place. so ithink— clearance operations take place. so i think you'll— clearance operations take place. so i think you'll be _ clearance operations take place. so i think you'll be talking _ clearance operations take place. so i think you'll be talking somewhere| i think you'll be talking somewhere between _ i think you'll be talking somewhere between 4-8— i think you'll be talking somewhere between 4—8 weeks _ i think you'll be talking somewhere between 4—8 weeks before - i think you'll be talking somewhere between 4—8 weeks before we - i think you'll be talking somewhere between 4—8 weeks before we can| between 4—8 weeks before we can get to that _ between 4—8 weeks before we can get to that position — between 4—8 weeks before we can get to that position. find _ between 4-8 weeks before we can get to that position.— to that position. and the other thin is to that position. and the other thing is that — to that position. and the other thing is that insurers _ to that position. and the other thing is that insurers may - to that position. and the other thing is that insurers may not l to that position. and the other - thing is that insurers may not take vessels in that area on. is that something that comes up in conversations as well? i thought this might be an issue is somebody parts of the world? it is this might be an issue is somebody parts of the world?— parts of the world? it is indeed and ou can parts of the world? it is indeed and you can imagine — parts of the world? it is indeed and you can imagine the _ parts of the world? it is indeed and you can imagine the huge - parts of the world? it is indeed and you can imagine the huge premium parts of the world? it is indeed and i you can imagine the huge premium of ships and _ you can imagine the huge premium of ships and merchant _ you can imagine the huge premium of ships and merchant vessels _ you can imagine the huge premium of ships and merchant vessels going - ships and merchant vessels going through— ships and merchant vessels going through areas _ ships and merchant vessels going through areas of— ships and merchant vessels going through areas of conflict - ships and merchant vessels going through areas of conflict in - ships and merchant vessels going through areas of conflict in areasi through areas of conflict in areas of war— through areas of conflict in areas of war and — through areas of conflict in areas of war and the _ through areas of conflict in areas of war and the risks _ through areas of conflict in areas of war and the risks insurers - through areas of conflict in areas of war and the risks insurers are| of war and the risks insurers are willing _ of war and the risks insurers are willing to — of war and the risks insurers are willing to take _ of war and the risks insurers are willing to take is _ of war and the risks insurers are willing to take is considerably. willing to take is considerably lower— willing to take is considerably lower in— willing to take is considerably lower in those _ willing to take is considerably lower in those regions. - willing to take is considerably lower in those regions. so . willing to take is considerably. lower in those regions. so they willing to take is considerably- lower in those regions. so they will need _ lower in those regions. so they will need to— lower in those regions. so they will need to work— lower in those regions. so they will need to work that _ lower in those regions. so they will need to work that out _ lower in those regions. so they will need to work that out as _ lower in those regions. so they will need to work that out as well. - lower in those regions. so they will need to work that out as well. [5 i need to work that out as well. [£3 there need to work that out as well. there any other way or any in need to work that out as well.“ there any other way or any in our solution that you see when looking at this somewhat intractable problem? i
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at this somewhat intractable -roblem? ~ at this somewhat intractable problem?— at this somewhat intractable roblem? ~ ., , problem? i think there may be another solution _ problem? i think there may be another solution which - problem? i think there may be another solution which is - problem? i think there may be another solution which is to i problem? i think there may be i another solution which is to move grain— another solution which is to move grain by— another solution which is to move grain by land— another solution which is to move grain by land at— another solution which is to move grain by land at some _ another solution which is to move grain by land at some of- another solution which is to move grain by land at some of the - another solution which is to move | grain by land at some of the other countries — grain by land at some of the other countries and _ grain by land at some of the other countries and move _ grain by land at some of the other countries and move out _ grain by land at some of the other countries and move out so - grain by land at some of the other countries and move out so there i countries and move out so there is traffic— countries and move out so there is traffic moving _ countries and move out so there is traffic moving inside _ countries and move out so there is traffic moving inside the _ countries and move out so there is traffic moving inside the black- countries and move out so there isj traffic moving inside the black seat as it is _ traffic moving inside the black seat as it is not — traffic moving inside the black seat as it is not clearly— traffic moving inside the black seat as it is not clearly shot. _ traffic moving inside the black seat as it is not clearly shot. so - as it is not clearly shot. so potentially _ as it is not clearly shot. so potentially moving - as it is not clearly shot. so potentially moving it - as it is not clearly shot. so potentially moving it overl as it is not clearly shot. so - potentially moving it over lamb that will be _ potentially moving it over lamb that will be said — potentially moving it over lamb that will be said a — potentially moving it over lamb that will be said a slow— potentially moving it over lamb that will be said a slow process - potentially moving it over lamb that will be said a slow process to - potentially moving it over lamb that will be said a slow process to movel will be said a slow process to move the quantities— will be said a slow process to move the quantities and _ will be said a slow process to move the quantities and need _ will be said a slow process to move the quantities and need to - will be said a slow process to move the quantities and need to be - will be said a slow process to move i the quantities and need to be moved in order— the quantities and need to be moved in order to _ the quantities and need to be moved in order to get — the quantities and need to be moved in order to get that _ the quantities and need to be moved in order to get that to _ the quantities and need to be moved in order to get that to those - in order to get that to those countries _ in order to get that to those countries rely— in order to get that to those countries rely on _ in order to get that to those countries rely on it. - in order to get that to those countries rely on it. so - in order to get that to those countries rely on it. so the i in order to get that to those i countries rely on it. so the real solution — countries rely on it. so the real solution is _ countries rely on it. so the real solution is to _ countries rely on it. so the real solution is to negotiate - countries rely on it. so the real solution is to negotiate some i solution is to negotiate some agreement— solution is to negotiate some agreement with _ solution is to negotiate some agreement with the - solution is to negotiate somel agreement with the russians, solution is to negotiate some - agreement with the russians, get the film agreement with the russians, get the right unit _ agreement with the russians, get the right unit in _ agreement with the russians, get the right unit in that— agreement with the russians, get the right unit in that the _ agreement with the russians, get the right unit in that the conduct - agreement with the russians, get the right unit in that the conduct those i right unit in that the conduct those mine _ right unit in that the conduct those mine clearance _ right unit in that the conduct those mine clearance operations, - right unit in that the conduct thosel mine clearance operations, creating a safe _ mine clearance operations, creating a safe passage _ mine clearance operations, creating a safe passage and _ mine clearance operations, creating a safe passage and then— mine clearance operations, creating a safe passage and then enable - mine clearance operations, creating. a safe passage and then enable ships to leave _ a safe passage and then enable ships to leave and — a safe passage and then enable ships to leave and that _ a safe passage and then enable ships to leave and that means _ a safe passage and then enable ships to leave and that means both - to leave and that means both organisations, _ to leave and that means both organisations, ukraine - to leave and that means both organisations, ukraine and l to leave and that means both - organisations, ukraine and russia, coming _ organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to— organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to the _ organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to the table _ organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to the table as _ organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to the table as i _ organisations, ukraine and russia, coming to the table as i cannot- organisations, ukraine and russia, i coming to the table as i cannot keep playing _ coming to the table as i cannot keep playing the _ coming to the table as i cannot keep playing the blame _ coming to the table as i cannot keep playing the blame game. _ coming to the table as i cannot keep playing the blame game. fill- coming to the table as i cannot keep playing the blame game.— playing the blame game. all right, thank ou playing the blame game. all right, thank you so _ playing the blame game. all right, thank you so much _ playing the blame game. all right, thank you so much ryan _ playing the blame game. all right, thank you so much ryan talking i playing the blame game. all right, thank you so much ryan talking usj thank you so much ryan talking us through some of the questions that we have had about that aspect of the crisis. the american automobile association says fuel prices have reached over $4 a gallon which is a record high as the cost of filling in every
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family car in the uk has hit a new high. it has now hit more than £100 for the first time today. that's $125. this is what it costs now to fill a car with a 55—litre tank. diesel is even more expensive. the rac motoring group has called it "a truly dark day". our business editor simonjack reports. butcher alistair paul makes deliveries from here in inverness all over the west coast of scotland, but he's considering doing fewer journeys in his three vans or charging for delivery, as higher fuel costs put a squeeze on the business. we're finding it really difficult. the vans are taking about £130 each to fill up for the week. it's up to over £300 a week, where it was, you know, down in the 200s beforehand. everyone's struggling. we're struggling at home. the staff are struggling. you know, we're all struggling. so, it's not only fuel, it's everything else that's going up. at least his business can claim
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back the vat on fuel, a tax break not available to regular motorists, spending on average over £100 on a tank of petrol for the first time. the price at the pump is about more than just the cost of fuel. in fact, of that £1.82 record per unleaded litre, only 94p is the cost of the petrol itself. transporting it costs 2p. the retailer takes a margin of 3p, then the government adds 53p in fuel duty, recently cut from 58p, and then puts vat on the whole lot for another 30p. so 46%, nearly half, is tax, and because prices have risen so quickly, the government is now getting more money than before it cut fuel duty, which is why people now are calling on it to do more. motoring organisations say nearly 20% are taking fewerjourneys, and those on low incomes or with no choice but to drive are being hit hardest. the situation is really severe. so, we need the chancellor to cut
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duty immediately by 10p a litre and introduce a fuel price stabiliser. when prices go up, duty should come down. if prices go down, duty can go up. that will help individuals and help the economy. the chancellor today was admiring a brand—new electric lorry, but pointed to the recent 5p fuel duty cut and said he would get inflation back under control. i want people to be reassured. that we have the tools we need and the determination to get inflation back down - and under control. and i'm making sure that our borrowing and debt i is handled responsibly— so we don't make the situation worse and increase people's mortgage rates, and we are doing things. like increasing the supply— of energy, moving people into work, to ease some of the supply—side pressures that we are seeing. i but for now, at the petrol pump, the supermarket and in utility bills, there is no hiding from a cost of living crisis that is expected to get worse before it gets better. simon jack, bbc news.
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brazil says it's stepping up its search for a british journalist and a brazilian indigenous expert after it was criticised for its slow response to their disappearance. dom phillips was travelling with bruno araujo pereira, a former government official tasked with protecting brazil's uncontacted tribes. they were last seen over the weekend in the javari region of amazonas state. there's been huge concern for their welfare after it emerged that mr pereira had received death threats from loggers and miners seeking to invade indigenous lands. investigators said there were now 250 members of the security forces taking part in the search, up from just a dozen in the first few days. brazilian football legend pele is also among those who urged the authorities to scale up their search. he retweeted this video in which mr phillips' wife, alessandra sampaio, said she hoped that "the love of my life" would be found alive. and mr phillips' sister sian also made a plea to intensify the search. he loves the country and cares deeply about the amazon
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and the people there. we knew it was a dangerous place, but dom really believes it's possible to safeguard the nature and the livelihood of the indigenous people. in a television interview on tuesday, brazilian president jair bolsonaro said... while former president lula da silva tweeted these images of the pair. he says... "indigenist bruno araujo pereira and englishjournalist dom phillips were in the region reporting invasions of indigenous lands. i hope they are found soon, that they are safe and well." our correspondent katy watson is in sao paulo. good happy with us. i mention there were death threats against bruno araujo pereira. i would that be?
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bruno araujo pereira is one of the most _ bruno araujo pereira is one of the most for— bruno araujo pereira is one of the most for most experts on off—loaded tribes _ most for most experts on off—loaded tribes the _ most for most experts on off—loaded tribes. the javari valley were the two men — tribes. the javari valley were the two men will reworking him is an area _ two men will reworking him is an area of— two men will reworking him is an area of brazil that is known as having the highest number of ice of the tribes _ having the highest number of ice of the tribes in the whole world with a really— the tribes in the whole world with a really special area in that sense. so bruno — really special area in that sense. so bruno araujo pereira has worked for the _ so bruno araujo pereira has worked for the indigenous affairs agency for the indigenous affairs agency for brazil— for the indigenous affairs agency for brazil for many years and he is very well— for brazil for many years and he is very well known. he actually took leave _ very well known. he actually took leave from — very well known. he actually took leave from the agency. and he was workingm — leave from the agency. and he was working... we leave from the agency. and he was workinr... ~ . , leave from the agency. and he was working- - -— working... we are 'ust having a little h working... we are 'ust having a little issue with _ working... we are just having a little issue with the _ working... we are just having a little issue with the line - working... we are just having a little issue with the line there i working... we are just having a i little issue with the line there and if you can see. it is just frozen. we are just trying to see if we can reconnect with her. it is a story that's actually got so much attention particularly over the past couple of days. you might have seen it in your social media feeds as
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people are really pushing for more attention to be given to the two men that are missing and also putting pressure on the brazilian authorities to try and step up that search and i'm afraid we have lost that line but we will continue following that story. stay with us on outside source. still to come... the pga tour suspends all members playing in this week's redant document backed by the saudi arabians which threatens to tear this sport apart. electricity companies have been told they need to "up their game" by the industry's regulator after a review into their response to storm arwen when almost 1 million homes lost power. here's danny savage. the damage from storm arwen was huge. a northerly gale swept across the country, bringing down trees, power lines and telephone cables. some communities were without power for over a week.
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power supply firms are now being told they must do better. they know all about it here in the higher reaches of weardale. there are vivid memories of days without power and information. it was freezing cold, yeah. i mean, we would go to bed at eight o'clock at night and read by a torch, you know, something like that, because that was the warmest place to be. there was no radio, there was no mobile phone signal and we actually didn't have a landline, either, so we had no internet. so we had no means of communicating with the outside world. it felt really, really weird to be that isolated, that cut off. the state of some of the infrastructure was also criticised in today's report. this is a new electricity pole that went in after storm arwen, to replace this one, which broke during the storm. it's got a woodpecker hole in it, and if you turn it over, you can see it's rotten through the middle. and the man living near here says he wrote to the company involved eight years before the storm to say
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it was in this state. now, northern powergrid say they've learned valuable lessons and they're now spending millions more on their infrastructure. it was just dark all the time! that's what i remember most of all, stumbling around in the dark. - northern powergrid was also criticised for not directly contacting vulnerable customers. they needed a lot of support from us to get that information. _ it must be possible to put a star against people who will quicklyl become very cold if they don't have access to electricity. _ the government says post—storm hardship here was unacceptable and big changes are needed. danny savage, bbc news, weardale in county durham. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is — two britons in a moroccan who were captured by russian forces while fighting for ukraine habits and it's
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a death by a russian proxy court. now to golf. the us pga tour, which runs the main golf tournaments in the united states, has suspended 17 players who've joined a rival saudi—backed series that teed off today near london. here's the bbc�*s golf correspondent iain carter. this was expected that they would act swiftly. from the moment that this rebel event teed off, the pga tour announcing the players involved here and anyone in the future who decides to go down the route of playing for the liv of playing for the liv golf invitational series will be suspended from the pga tour, so that's 17 players so far. they include a lifetime member in phil mickelson, a former world number one in dustinjohnson, anotherformer world number one in martin kaymer, ryder cup legends such as sergio garcia, lee westwood and ian poulter as well. graeme mcdowell on that list, equally. so, these are players who have either already resigned from the tour or are actually members of the tour who have been suspended. and significantly for those that
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have resigned, they've been told that they will not be able to play under a sponsor invitation at any pga tour events going forward as well. the liv golf invitational is a new tournament series funded by the saudi government. the series will feature six more tournaments this year. and there's big bucks to play for. each tournament has $25 million in prize money, more than any other golf tournament in history. the winner takes 4 million. for comparison, the top prize at the us masters this year was $2.7 million. this has persuaded high—profile golf players to join the tournament, like dustinjohnson, who resigned his pga tour membership and then signed to liv golf for a reported $150 million. he spoke about the decision yesterday. you know, obviously i've played on the tour for a long time. i love the pga tour. you know, i'm very thankful for everything that, you know, it's done for me in my life. and, you know, this isjust kind of a new chapter, and, you know, i felt like this was just what was best for me and my family. a memo from the pga commissioner
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to all their players today said these players have made their choice.... liv golf responded, saying the announcement... let's speak to a golf commentator in dubai. great to have you with us. i find this story pretty fascinating. what do you think it means for golf? thanks for having me on the show. well, _ thanks for having me on the show. well, i_ thanks for having me on the show. well, ithink— thanks for having me on the show. well, i think there _ thanks for having me on the show. well, i think there is _ thanks for having me on the show. well, i think there is one _ thanks for having me on the show. well, i think there is one word - thanks for having me on the show. well, i think there is one word that you keep _ well, i think there is one word that you keep hearing all— well, i think there is one word that you keep hearing all the _ well, i think there is one word that you keep hearing all the time, - well, i think there is one word that you keep hearing all the time, and| you keep hearing all the time, and it is always — you keep hearing all the time, and it is always portrayed _ you keep hearing all the time, and it is always portrayed as _ you keep hearing all the time, and it is always portrayed as positive i it is always portrayed as positive or something _ it is always portrayed as positive or something as— it is always portrayed as positive or something as negative - it is always portrayed as positive or something as negative or- or something as negative or something _ or something as negative or something of— or something as negative or something of it _ or something as negative or something of it as _ or something as negative or something of it as negativel or something as negative or. something of it as negative and that's— something of it as negative and that's disruption. _ something of it as negative and that's disruption. and - something of it as negative and that's disruption. and i- something of it as negative and that's disruption. and i think. something of it as negative and. that's disruption. and i think this is something _ that's disruption. and i think this is something which _ that's disruption. and i think this is something which is— that's disruption. and i think this is something which is disruptingl that's disruption. and i think this. is something which is disrupting the game _
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is something which is disrupting the game of— is something which is disrupting the game of golf— is something which is disrupting the game of golf and _ is something which is disrupting the game of golf and some _ is something which is disrupting the game of golf and some may- is something which is disrupting the game of golf and some may alwaysl game of golf and some may always view it— game of golf and some may always view it as _ game of golf and some may always view it as a — game of golf and some may always view it as a very— game of golf and some may always view it as a very positive _ game of golf and some may always view it as a very positive change i view it as a very positive change because — view it as a very positive change because the _ view it as a very positive change because the pga _ view it as a very positive change because the pga tour— view it as a very positive change because the pga tour has - view it as a very positive change because the pga tour has had i view it as a very positive change because the pga tour has had aj view it as a very positive change - because the pga tour has had a kind of monopoly over— because the pga tour has had a kind of monopoly over the _ because the pga tour has had a kind of monopoly over the game - because the pga tour has had a kind of monopoly over the game and - because the pga tour has had a kind i of monopoly over the game and some will obviously — of monopoly over the game and some will obviously think— of monopoly over the game and some will obviously think that _ of monopoly over the game and some will obviously think that this _ of monopoly over the game and some will obviously think that this goes - will obviously think that this goes against _ will obviously think that this goes against the — will obviously think that this goes against the legacy— will obviously think that this goes against the legacy of— will obviously think that this goes against the legacy of the - will obviously think that this goes against the legacy of the game, i against the legacy of the game, against — against the legacy of the game, against the _ against the legacy of the game, against the history— against the legacy of the game, against the history of— against the legacy of the game, against the history of the - against the legacy of the game, | against the history of the game. against the legacy of the game, - against the history of the game. and they will— against the history of the game. and they will view — against the history of the game. and they will view it _ against the history of the game. and they will view it negatively. - against the history of the game. and they will view it negatively. so - they will view it negatively. so there — they will view it negatively. so there is — they will view it negatively. so there is always _ they will view it negatively. so there is always two _ they will view it negatively. so there is always two sides - they will view it negatively. so there is always two sides of. they will view it negatively. sol there is always two sides of the coin, _ there is always two sides of the coin but— there is always two sides of the coin but you _ there is always two sides of the coin, but you mostly— there is always two sides of the coin, but you mostly hear- there is always two sides of the coin, but you mostly hear one i there is always two sides of the i coin, but you mostly hear one side of the _ coin, but you mostly hear one side of the coin— coin, but you mostly hear one side of the coin right _ coin, but you mostly hear one side of the coin right now. _ coin, but you mostly hear one side of the coin right now. but - coin, but you mostly hear one side of the coin right now. but there . coin, but you mostly hear one sidel of the coin right now. but there are so many— of the coin right now. but there are so many other— of the coin right now. but there are so many other players _ of the coin right now. but there are so many other players who - of the coin right now. but there are so many other players who just - of the coin right now. but there are. so many other players who just think that they— so many other players who just think that they should _ so many other players who just think that they should be _ so many other players who just think that they should be part _ so many other players who just think that they should be part of _ so many other players who just think that they should be part of it - so many other players who just think that they should be part of it and - that they should be part of it and money— that they should be part of it and money makes the _ that they should be part of it and money makes the world - that they should be part of it and money makes the world go - that they should be part of it and. money makes the world go round. that they should be part of it and - money makes the world go round. they really _ money makes the world go round. they really want _ money makes the world go round. they really want tom — money makes the world go round. they really want tom if— money makes the world go round. they really want to... if you _ money makes the world go round. they really want to... if you look _ money makes the world go round. they really want to... if you look at - money makes the world go round. they really want to... if you look at a - really want to... if you look at a player _ really want to... if you look at a player from _ really want to... if you look at a player from the _ really want to... if you look at a player from the asian _ really want to... if you look at a player from the asian tour- really want to... if you look at a player from the asian tour whol player from the asian tour who has not got _ player from the asian tour who has not got a _ player from the asian tour who has not got a chance _ player from the asian tour who has not got a chance to _ player from the asian tour who has not got a chance to play _ player from the asian tour who has i not got a chance to play tournaments for almost _ not got a chance to play tournaments for almost two — not got a chance to play tournaments for almost two years _ not got a chance to play tournaments for almost two years because - not got a chance to play tournaments for almost two years because of - for almost two years because of covid-i9. — for almost two years because of covid-i9. if— for almost two years because of mad-19, if he _ for almost two years because of covid—19, if he has _ for almost two years because of covid—19, if he has a _ for almost two years because of covid—19, if he has a chance - for almost two years because of covid—19, if he has a chance of. covid—19, if he has a chance of winning — covid—19, if he has a chance of winning $4— covid—19, if he has a chance of winning $4 million, _ covid—19, if he has a chance of winning $4 million, would - covid—19, if he has a chance of winning $4 million, would you| covid—19, if he has a chance of- winning $4 million, would you really grudge _ winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? _ winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? i— winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? i mean _ winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? i mean, i— winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? i mean, iwould - winning $4 million, would you really grudge it? i mean, iwould not. - grudge it? i mean, iwould not. well, _ grudge it? i mean, iwould not. well, that's— grudge it? i mean, iwould not. well, that's a _ grudge it? i mean, iwould not. well, that's a debate _ grudge it? i mean, iwould not. well, that's a debate because i grudge it? i mean, iwould not. - well, that's a debate because there are many that would but it is
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interesting to hear your opinion but i also think of the people who watch golf. they look up to these players and perhaps now watching, will they watch the pga with all those big names in i know some have resigned the others have been suspended? and ijust the others have been suspended? and i just wonder what that means for the pga tour, for example, if all those names are struck off? there are a couple _ those names are struck off? there are a couple of— those names are struck off? there are a couple of names _ those names are struck off? there are a couple of names which - those names are struck off? there are a couple of names which are i are a couple of names which are really— are a couple of names which are really box — are a couple of names which are really box office _ are a couple of names which are really box office names - are a couple of names which are really box office names like - are a couple of names which are really box office names like philj really box office names like phil mickelson _ really box office names like phil mickelson i_ really box office names like phil mickelson. i would _ really box office names like phil mickelson. iwould pay- really box office names like phil mickelson. i would pay to - really box office names like phil mickelson. i would pay to watch really box office names like phil - mickelson. i would pay to watch phil mickelson _ mickelson. i would pay to watch phil mickelson play— mickelson. i would pay to watch phil mickelson play golf— mickelson. i would pay to watch phil mickelson play golf anyway. - mickelson. i would pay to watch phil mickelson play golf anyway. there's| mickelson play golf anyway. there's dustin _ mickelson play golf anyway. there's dustin johnson, _ mickelson play golf anyway. there's dustinjohnson, there's _ mickelson play golf anyway. there's dustinjohnson, there's bryson- dustinjohnson, there's bryson dechambeau _ dustinjohnson, there's bryson dechambeau who— dustinjohnson, there's bryson dechambeau who is _ dustinjohnson, there's bryson dechambeau who is reportedly dustinjohnson, there's bryson- dechambeau who is reportedly going tojoin_ dechambeau who is reportedly going tojoin the _ dechambeau who is reportedly going tojoin the liv— dechambeau who is reportedly going to join the liv series _ dechambeau who is reportedly going to join the liv series from _ dechambeau who is reportedly going to join the liv series from the - to join the liv series from the next room _ to join the liv series from the next room and — to join the liv series from the next room and onward. _ to join the liv series from the next room and onward. so— to join the liv series from the next room and onward. so there - to join the liv series from the next room and onward. so there are - room and onward. so there are players — room and onward. so there are players who _ room and onward. so there are players who are _ room and onward. so there are players who are big _ room and onward. so there are players who are big draws - room and onward. so there are players who are big draws and i room and onward. so there are - players who are big draws and people will watch _ players who are big draws and people will watch them _ players who are big draws and people will watch them and _ players who are big draws and people will watch them and this _ players who are big draws and people will watch them and this is _ players who are big draws and people will watch them and this is what - players who are big draws and people will watch them and this is what i- will watch them and this is what i think _ will watch them and this is what i think and — will watch them and this is what i think. and there _ will watch them and this is what i think. and there are _ will watch them and this is what i think. and there are players- will watch them and this is what i think. and there are players who| think. and there are players who really. _ think. and there are players who really. i— think. and there are players who really. i mean _ think. and there are players who really, i mean, don't— think. and there are players who really, i mean, don't matter- think. and there are players whoj really, i mean, don't matterthat much— really, i mean, don't matterthat much for— really, i mean, don't matterthat much for so— really, i mean, don't matterthat much for so they— really, i mean, don't matterthat much for so they make _ really, i mean, don't matterthat much for so they make up - really, i mean, don't matterthat much for so they make up the i much for so they make up the
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numbers _ much for so they make up the numbers so _ much for so they make up the numbers. so the _ much for so they make up the numbers. so the pga - much for so they make up the numbers. so the pga tour- much for so they make up the | numbers. so the pga tour has much for so they make up the - numbers. so the pga tour has got players _ numbers. so the pga tour has got players which _ numbers. so the pga tour has got players which are _ numbers. so the pga tour has got players which are again, _ numbers. so the pga tour has got players which are again, rory- players which are again, rory mcelroy. _ players which are again, rory mcelroy. tiger— players which are again, rory mcelroy, tiger woods, - players which are again, rory mcelroy, tiger woods, as- players which are again, rory. mcelroy, tiger woods, as close players which are again, rory- mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion— mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and _ mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and he — mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and he did _ mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and he did not _ mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and he did notjoin _ mcelroy, tiger woods, as close to $8 billion and he did notjoin liv - billion and he did notjoin liv series — billion and he did notjoin liv series and. _ billion and he did notjoin liv series. and, yes, _ billion and he did notjoin liv series. and, yes, if- billion and he did notjoin liv series. and, yes, if tiger- billion and he did notjoin liv series. and, yes, if tiger is. series. and, yes, if tiger is playing. _ series. and, yes, if tiger is playing, everyone - series. and, yes, if tiger is playing, everyone is - series. and, yes, if tiger is playing, everyone is goingl series. and, yes, if tiger is. playing, everyone is going to series. and, yes, if tiger is- playing, everyone is going to watch the pga _ playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour — playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour at _ playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour at that _ playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour at that time. - playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour at that time. sorry. playing, everyone is going to watch the pga tour at that time.- the pga tour at that time. sorry to interru -t the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you _ the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you but _ the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you but i _ the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you but i did _ the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you but i did see - the pga tour at that time. sorry to interrupt you but i did see that - interrupt you but i did see that rory was speaking and it's saying that he does not think decision should ever be made for money alone. but so interesting to hear your thoughts and thank you so much for joining us from dubai. and if our viewers would like to hear more on that story, you can watch ros atkins on saudi arabia's golf series on bbc news website. we were talking about brazil and the
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two men who have gone missing in amazonas state and great to have katie back. you are explaining to us exactly how dangerous it is and it one of the gentleman bruno pereira had been very much involved with uncounted tribes. where does it go from here what does it look like for those two men?— those two men? little information. their arts or— those two men? little information. their arts or to _ those two men? little information. their arts or to rescue _ those two men? little information. their arts or to rescue teams - those two men? little information. their arts or to rescue teams on i those two men? little information. | their arts or to rescue teams on the ground and there has been a lot of criticism that they have not mobilised quickly enough or with enough people and it is a vast area. the javari valley is bigger than the size of austria, so it is full of rivers, rain forests can be difficult terrain and it is an area where there is illegal logging, illegal mining, illegalfishing, illegal mining, illegalfishing, illegal poaching, drug trafficking and there is so many senses it is dangerous. but certainly the authorities have not done enough is
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something that has been growing with criticism in the past few days and there's been a lot of people coming out and saying needs to be more. so far, there have been sick people interviewed by the police, five as witnesses thought to be the last to see dom and bruno and one person has been arrested for carrying illegal drugs and ammunition but not necessarily connected to the disappearance.— necessarily connected to the disa earance. �* , disappearance. because we were talkin: disappearance. because we were talking before _ disappearance. because we were talking before we _ disappearance. because we were talking before we were _ disappearance. because we were - talking before we were disconnected about that bruno pereira was a voice i suppose for many people in that area and there has been encroachments when it comes to developing that area in brazil but i suppose also dangerous where it is when it comes to drug running for example or border issues. i'm wondering if the president there come a lot of pressure on social media with people trying to get him to do more, do you think it's
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filtered through? i to do more, do you think it's filtered through?— to do more, do you think it's filtered through? i don't think so. i mean filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it. — filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it. he _ filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it, he showed _ filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it, he showed us - filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it, he showed us what - filtered through? i don't think so. i mean it, he showed us what hel i mean it, he showed us what he feels about the free press and what he feels about journalism feels about the free press and what he feels aboutjournalism in the amazon and... i’m he feels about “ournalism in the amazon and. . ._ he feels about “ournalism in the amazon and... i'm so sorry, i think we are losing _ amazon and... i'm so sorry, i think we are losing her _ amazon and... i'm so sorry, i think we are losing her again _ amazon and... i'm so sorry, i think we are losing her again and - amazon and... i'm so sorry, i think we are losing her again and we - we are losing her again and we tried to reconnect because it is fascinating but you can find more about it on our website and that is bbc dot,. but also if you go to your social media, you will see also so often people talking about don phillips as one of the men and bruno pereira. a long history in that area. people really hoping that there will be safe and well and have a good ending to the story but thank you very much for katie for persevering and trying to get that story to you from sao paulo. you are watching outside source on bbc and
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do stay with us if you can. hello. it was a cloudy day today with some rain in western parts of the country. tomorrow, a lot of sunshine in the forecast. however, it is going to be very blustery pretty much everywhere, and that wind is with us for the next couple of days. it's brought this area of low pressure, quite an extensive quite an extensive area of low pressure. it's actually an old tropical storm or the remnants of a tropical storm which formed in the gulf of mexico. and here it is, you can see on the satellite picture, that curl of cloud swirling into the centre of the low and it'll be pushing to the north—west of us. so, through the course of the night, i think it's breezy in the north west of the uk, but generally speaking, it is a dry night. and the temperatures first thing in the morning on friday around 15
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in the south east there in london, 12 degrees in northern ireland and scotland and even in those colder spots. so, certainly not particularly chilly tonight. now, tomorrow morning, sunshine from the word go with scattered fairweather clouds which will be quickly pushed by that strong south—westerly wind. to the north—west, i think here showers, some of them could be heavy, but plenty of sunny spells around as well. and the gusts of wind up to 40—50 mph around the coasts here. towards the south, it'll be closer to 30 mph. on friday, the pollen levels will also be very high widely across england and wales. so, if you're a hay fever sufferer, that is not good news for tomorrow. here's a look at saturday's weather map. the low pressure's just to the north of us, quite a few isobars there, so it means strong winds. if anything, across england and wales, the winds will be even stronger on saturday. they'll get very gusty in the afternoon. that's what tends to happen during the summer months. so, warm and windy for many of us
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on saturday with a scattering of showers, most frequent in the north west of the uk. that was saturday, this is sunday. and i think that low pressure by this stage is lifting away the north. a few showers here across scotland, maybe northern ireland and north—western england, but to the south, we've high pressure building, lifting in from the south. so, the winds die down, and it's going to feel very present. so, let's have a look at the outlook for the next few days. yes, a few showers in the forecast, but on the whole, as far as the weekend is concerned, it is not looking bad at all. that's it from me. bye— bye.
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