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this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines: the family of former british soldier jordan gatley say he's been killed fighting for the ukrainian armed forces in the eastern city of severodonetsk. ministers order a review into whether a 5p cut in fuel duty is being passed on to drivers. it's horrendous, i don't know how people are going to survive. i rely on my car all the time and it is a huge cost to everybody. it comes as a leading business group tells the bbc they believe households in the uk will go into recession this year. disability campaigners are taking legal action against the government for not backing a recommendation from the grenfell tower inquiry to give vulnerable residents of high—rise buildings personal fire evacuation plans. polls close in the first
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round of parliamentary elections in france — in an election to decide whether emmanuel macron can continue governing with a majority in the national assembly. a bipartisan group of us senators say they have agreed a framework for potential legislation on gun safety — president biden hails it as a step forward. and, queen elizabeth ii becomes the world's second—longest serving monarch — only louis xiv of france has ruled for longer. a british family say their son has been killed while fighting russian forces in the east of ukraine.
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jordan gatley, who left the british army in march to travel to ukraine, was shot in the city of severodonetsk — the scene of intense fighting in recent days. in a tribute on social media, his father said his son was a hero. our correspondent in kyiv, nick beake, gave us the latest details. jordan gatley�*s dad, dean, has said that his son travelled to ukraine after careful consideration and was helping to train ukrainian troops. he'd apparently told his family that he knew he was carrying out dangerous missions, but thought that they were necessary and that they were really making a difference. but on friday, the family say that they were told he had been killed on the front line in the fighting. in paying tribute to him, they have described him as a hero who will live on in their hearts. he is the second briton to die in ukraine. back in march, the head of the british armed forces urged people not to come out here to fight, but to find other ways of showing their support. but, clearly, jordan gatley made the decision to come here, and
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he has now lost his life trying to defend ukraine. we can speak now to alice bromage — former british army major, who served in afghanistan and iran twice and was deployed for two years in the balkans. she is also has a business specialising in resilience and leadership. just picking up on a line in that report. in a part of that tribute, jordan thought he was making a difference. what does that mean when you are serving in the forces? you no you are serving in the forces? you go through — you are serving in the forces? you go through a _ you are serving in the forces? you go through a lot — you are serving in the forces? gm. go through a lot of training, you go through hell and high water, so you want to make sure that you are helping protect those who can't
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protect themselves, the mentality that you are trying to look after those who may not have the skills or acumen that you have as a soldier. my acumen that you have as a soldier. my understanding is thatjordan left the service earlier this year. from that perspective, it seems a natural choice for me. it is not surprising he looked at work as a war—torn nation close to home that i can potentially use the skills i developed whilst in the army. the camaraderie is very strong and the british army. when you are becoming a civilian, it can be challenging where are you going to find a similar camaraderie? but if you think it is worth the reward of protecting another nation that is an ally, ukraine was in afghanistan with us, ukrainian special forces raid a big part of helping with evacuations last summer in kabul.
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so, how can i payback? how can i give something back to the nations who are our allies and who we see were taking a risk for? do who are our allies and who we see were taking a risk for?— who are our allies and who we see were taking a risk for? do you think ou are were taking a risk for? do you think you are born _ were taking a risk for? do you think you are born with _ were taking a risk for? do you think you are born with that _ were taking a risk for? do you think you are born with that mindset - were taking a risk for? do you think you are born with that mindset or. were taking a risk for? do you think| you are born with that mindset or do you are born with that mindset or do you think it is something you learn when you enter the services? i think the nature or _ when you enter the services? i think the nature or nurture _ when you enter the services? i think the nature or nurture a _ when you enter the services? i think the nature or nurture a discussion i the nature or nurture a discussion is always an interesting point, but i think both. the development of that real focus on trying to work with purpose. when you go through training, all the officers say it is hard. you are then going into war—torn countries across the globe where scenarios are both physically and mentally challenging. one of the best ways to get through heavy risk to life, but also stress, is to feel you are doing it because there is a purpose that you believe in. i think part of the values and standards
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that are reiterated every year and you are working and living alongside each other, it helps to develop that sense of purpose and that they wish to make sure that whilst you are going through physically and mentally challenging exercises, training, development, it is because you think it is going to be making a difference for our family, another nation, and our own. ukraine is quite close by. so, you may be have part of it inherent, but i think a lot of it is also developed whilst serving. it lot of it is also developed whilst servinu. ., .,, lot of it is also developed whilst servin.. . , lot of it is also developed whilst servin. ., , serving. it almost sounds as if it becomes addictive, _ serving. it almost sounds as if it becomes addictive, this - serving. it almost sounds as if it becomes addictive, this need i serving. it almost sounds as if it becomes addictive, this need to | becomes addictive, this need to serve. you are laughing, you know what i'm talking about. he was serving in a country that was not his own. this is what i think confuses people. you are putting your wife on the line. if confuses people. you are putting your wife on the line.— your wife on the line. if you are lookin: your wife on the line. if you are looking at _ your wife on the line. if you are looking at when _ your wife on the line. if you are looking at when he _ your wife on the line. if you are looking at when he he - your wife on the line. if you are looking at when he he left - your wife on the line. if you are looking at when he he left the i your wife on the line. if you are - looking at when he he left the army, and wondering how to make best use
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of the skills and knowledge that i have that can sometimes sound like lip service. but, actually, he has come out and then he has an opportunity to go to a different nation to serve alongside different soldiers, protecting the civilian populace of ukraine. i can see why thatis populace of ukraine. i can see why that is a natural place to want to use the skills that we have. that is a close to home environment where you know you can provide some good and fight alongside soldiers that you have potential already served alongside in different nations before. ., ., alongside in different nations before. . ., before. fascinating to chat with ou. before. fascinating to chat with you- thank _ before. fascinating to chat with you. thank you. _ and we'll find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 and 11:30 this evening in the papers.
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our guestsjoining me tonight are sienna rodgers, senior writer, at the house magazine, and rachel watson, scottish political editor for the scottish sun. with fuel prices soaring, there's to be an urgent review into whether a 5p fuel duty cut is being passed on in full to drivers. the government has asked the competition and markets authority to examine the fuel market for local variations in petrol and diesel prices. the cost of filling an average family car hit a record £100 last week. it comes as the confederation of british industry warned that waning consumer spending will mean households going into recession later this year. our political correspondent, helen catt, reports. the cost of filling up has been going up, and up. this week, the cost of a full tank for an average family car hit £100. it's actually a killer. i don't know how we're going to carry on affording travelling. it's horrendous. i don't know how people are going to survive. i rely on my car all the time, and it's a huge cost to everybody. today, i can announce...
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in march, the chancellor announced he was cutting the tax the government charges on petrol and diesel, fuel duty, by 5p per litre, but there are concerns the saving has not found its way to the forecourts. now ministers have instructed the independent regulator to investigate. we have got to make sure it is being passed on and once we get the review of that, then it will be right to look at what more, if we need to, we can do to help people to make sure it is actually getting to where we want. there are calls for the government to cut fuel duty by more than 5p, as some other european countries have. labour wouldn't confirm if it would do so, but said the review was overdue. naming and shaming, which was their previous policy, was just never going to work. we need to make sure that we have got a functioning energy market. petrol retailers insist the cut is being reflected in prices at the pump. the regulator says it stands ready to take action if it finds competition is not working properly. but of course, it's notjust petrol and diesel that is costing more. food and energy bills have pushed inflation to its highest level
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in decades and business leaders say households are feeling the squeeze well before the wider economy. well, i think the truth is, households are going to go into recession this year. what do i mean by that? i mean that consumption, spending that we all make in the high streets, and on discretionary goods, that is going to go negative already this year. and the only thing really stopping us from having a full—blown recession this year is that, at the moment, business investment levels are quite high. he also said the government needed to make big decisions quickly and warned that the sort of political drama we have seen this week is bad for economics. downing street is certainly keen to move on from the drama. it wants to draw a line under last week's confidence vote and shift the focus back onto policy, but the vote brought back into the open a wider debate within the conservative party about which direction those policies should take, particularly around tax. some are calling for tax cuts to come in much faster than promised. the government has already spent big on cost of living support. it puts the total at £37 billion.
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as households continue to feel the squeeze, there is likely to be pressure to do even more. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. one industry feeling the heat is ice cream vendors. industry chiefs are now warning they could be forced to ditch their businesses, as rising fuel prices take a toll on their diesel engine ice cream vans. joining me now is ice cream man paul field, who was voted ice cream man of the year in 2017, and has been selling ice creams from his van for over 35 years. he joins us from his van. thank you forjoining us today. don't look very happy. how are you feeling? don't look very happy. how are you feelin: ? , , , :: feeling? terrible, i 'ust put 70 litres of diesel h feeling? terrible, i 'ust put 70 litres of diesel and _ feeling? terrible, ijust put 70 litres of diesel and for - feeling? terrible, ijust put 70 litres of diesel and for £137. i feeling? terrible, ijust put 70 i
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litres of diesel and for £137. the thing is, we only take money when we are on the road and it is costing us what we are on the road, we are losing money. what we are on the road, we are losing money-— what we are on the road, we are losin: mone . ., . ., . losing money. how much that it cost ou at this losing money. how much that it cost you at this time _ losing money. how much that it cost you at this time last _ losing money. how much that it cost you at this time last year? _ losing money. how much that it cost you at this time last year? £50, - losing money. how much that it cost you at this time last year? £50, it i you at this time last year? £50, it has 'ust you at this time last year? £50, it hasjust rocketed. _ you at this time last year? £50, it has just rocketed. what _ you at this time last year? £50, it has just rocketed. what does - you at this time last year? £50, it has just rocketed. what does thatj has just rocketed. what does that mean for your— has just rocketed. what does that mean for your business? - has just rocketed. what does that mean for your business? we - has just rocketed. what does thatj mean for your business? we can't has just rocketed. what does that - mean for your business? we can't put the rice mean for your business? we can't put the price of— mean for your business? we can't put the price of any _ mean for your business? we can't put the price of any more _ mean for your business? we can't put the price of any more because - mean for your business? we can't put the price of any more because we - mean for your business? we can't put the price of any more because we are| the price of any more because we are at max, it will put us out of business. it is only £2 and ice cream, you need to sell a lot of ice cream. if it is raining, we can't go to work. ~ ., ., cream. if it is raining, we can't go to work. ~ . ., , ., to work. what are your plans? normally _ to work. what are your plans? normally we _ to work. what are your plans? normally we have _ to work. what are your plans? normally we have plans, - to work. what are your plans? normally we have plans, but. to work. what are your plans? i normally we have plans, but i've to work. what are your plans? - normally we have plans, but i've got no plans at all. i'm just completely lost on what to do. itjust keeps going up and i don't know what to do. ., , ., going up and i don't know what to do. . i. , ., going up and i don't know what to do. . , ., ., ., do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is that _ do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is that any _ do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is that any support _ do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is that any support from - do. have you spoken to anyone at all? is that any support from the l all? is that any support from the local council or anything like that? nothing at all. the ice cream alliance is looking into it. but what can we do? we are not the only
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ones. the levelling apostles, postman. diesel is the backbone of this country, we need it to get about. everybody has been affected and nobody is listening. haifa about. everybody has been affected and nobody is listening.— and nobody is listening. how much will a full tank— and nobody is listening. how much will a full tank last _ and nobody is listening. how much will a full tank last year? _ and nobody is listening. how much will a full tank last year? no - and nobody is listening. how much will a full tank last year? no way i will a full tank last year? no way thins will a full tank last year? no way things are _ will a full tank last year? no way things are going. _ will a full tank last year? no way things are going, a _ will a full tank last year? no way things are going, a full— will a full tank last year? no way things are going, a full tank - will a full tank last year? no way things are going, a full tank will| things are going, a full tank will last me around five to six days. fist" last me around five to six days. adi at the point of losing money at the moment? , , , , , at the point of losing money at the moment? , , ,, , .,�* ':: moment? our business used to b+10, i'm auoin moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to — moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be — moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be at— moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be at -1, _ moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be at -1, -2 _ moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be at -1, -2 next - moment? our business used to b+10, i'm going to be at -1, -2 next week. i i'm going to be at —1, —2 next week. we are losing money and will have to think what to do very strongly. do ou think what to do very strongly. do you think people will consider a more expensive ice cream? is that something you will even consider? i had to put the prices last year when electric, dairy prices went up. i can't put it up any more because people. buying and i will be out of business. i will have to run at a loss for a few months and hopefully feel will come down. haifa
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loss for a few months and hopefully feel will come down.— feel will come down. how long are ou auoin feel will come down. how long are you going to _ feel will come down. how long are you going to give _ feel will come down. how long are you going to give it? _ feel will come down. how long are you going to give it? i _ feel will come down. how long are you going to give it? i will - feel will come down. how long are you going to give it? i will see - feel will come down. how long are you going to give it? i will see out| you going to give it? i will see out the summer. _ you going to give it? i will see out the summer, get _ you going to give it? i will see out the summer, get into _ you going to give it? i will see out the summer, get into the - you going to give it? i will see out the summer, get into the winter, | you going to give it? i will see out. the summer, get into the winter, and then i will see what happens. i will maybe look into getting anotherjob. in terms of the industry itself, have you got younger people coming through? can you see that people want to enter the ice cream industry?— want to enter the ice cream indust ? ., , ., industry? no young people come into the “ob, industry? no young people come into the job. i'm — industry? no young people come into the job. i'm old- _ industry? no young people come into the job, i'm old. it's— industry? no young people come into the job, i'm old. it's an _ industry? no young people come into the job, i'm old. it's an old _ industry? no young people come into the job, i'm old. it's an old man's- thejob, i'm old. it's an old man's job. the young people get a bit bored of it. if job. the young people get a bit bored of it-_ job. the young people get a bit bored of it— job. the young people get a bit bored of it. if you weren't doing this, what _ bored of it. if you weren't doing this, what would _ bored of it. if you weren't doing this, what would you _ bored of it. if you weren't doing this, what would you do? - bored of it. if you weren't doing this, what would you do? 40 i bored of it. if you weren't doing i this, what would you do? 40 years bored of it. if you weren't doing - this, what would you do? 40 years on the “ob, this, what would you do? 40 years on the job. we — this, what would you do? 40 years on the job. we got _ this, what would you do? 40 years on the job. we got no — this, what would you do? 40 years on the job, i've got no skills, _ this, what would you do? 40 years on the job, i've got no skills, i _ this, what would you do? 40 years on the job, i've got no skills, i would - the job, i've got no skills, i would have to see what i can find. maybe a supermarket would take me on? i don't know what to say, i'm lost for words on your behalf. it’s don't know what to say, i'm lost for words on your behalf.— words on your behalf. it's never really been _ words on your behalf. it's never really been a — words on your behalf. it's never really been a job, _ words on your behalf. it's never really been a job, it's _ words on your behalf. it's never really been a job, it's been - words on your behalf. it's never really been a job, it's been a i words on your behalf. it's never| really been a job, it's been a lie. i've enjoyed it, but it is just getting so difficult. diesel comes out the ground, i don't understand what is so expensive. the tanker
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drivers aren't getting more money, staff digging it out of the whole argent getting more money. he was getting all this extra cash? ii'idtu�*e getting all this extra cash? have the fuel duty _ getting all this extra cash? have the fuel duty cuts _ getting all this extra cash? have the fuel duty cuts made - getting all this extra cash? have the fuel duty cuts made any - the fuel duty cuts made any difference? i the fuel duty cuts made any difference?— the fuel duty cuts made any difference? . . ., difference? i watched the tv and the said difference? i watched the tv and they said it _ difference? i watched the tv and they said it was _ difference? i watched the tv and they said it was coming - difference? i watched the tv and they said it was coming down - difference? i watched the tv and they said it was coming down by| difference? i watched the tv and i they said it was coming down by 5p, they said it was coming down by 5p, the next day it went up by ten p. we will leave it there. good luck seeing out the next few months in your plan. i hope it pans out for you, thank you. that was paulfield there, ice cream man of the year 2017, really struggling with the high cost of living and fuel prices. a group of senators from both sides of the political divide in the united states have reached a framework agreement aimed at curbing gun violence, following a spate of mass shootings. the measures includes tougher background checks for gun buyers under the age of 21 and cracking
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down on illegal gun purchases. the legislation needs to pass in both houses of congress. let's speak to david willis, who's in los angeles. tell us more about what's been announced? these proposals are modest, but nonetheless highly significant. they have been trying to get tougher gun control laws through congress for decades now. this represents quite a significant agreement. it has still to pass into law. i still have to be drawn up theyjust levy and then put to the whole senate. crucially, this proposal does have the backing of ten republican senators that will be needed to get to past the post, if you like into law on the floor of the senate. what we are talking about here is how terra background checks for gun sales involving
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purchases under the age of 21, that includes delving intojuvenile records and mental health records. federalfunding records and mental health records. federal funding for tighter security. greater investment in local mental health checks and so on. the expansion as well of so—called red flag laws. these are was already in place and in some 19 separate states, which meant to alert officials when somebody who has possession of a gun is deemed a risk, eitherto has possession of a gun is deemed a risk, either to themselves or other people. president biden has welcomed the news of this agreement. he says it doesn't go far enough, but he has called it a step in the right direction. called it a step in the right direction-— called it a step in the right direction. �* ., ., direction. he said i didn't go far enou:h. direction. he said i didn't go far enough- how— direction. he said i didn't go far enough. how far _ direction. he said i didn't go far enough. how far would - direction. he said i didn't go far enough. how far would he - direction. he said i didn't go far enough. how far would he havej direction. he said i didn't go far- enough. how far would he have wanted it to go? he enough. how far would he have wanted it to no? ., ., enough. how far would he have wanted it to no? ., . ~' enough. how far would he have wanted it to no? ., ., ,, ., it to go? he would have liked to have seen. _ it to go? he would have liked to have seen, ideally, _ it to go? he would have liked to have seen, ideally, a _ it to go? he would have liked to have seen, ideally, a ban - it to go? he would have liked to have seen, ideally, a ban on - it to go? he would have liked to - have seen, ideally, a ban on assault weapons of the kind used not only in the uvalde the shooting, but also a
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previous shooting just ten days before the inn at buffalo — new york, in which ten people were gunned down by a white supremacist and a grocery store. if not, a ban on the availability of assault—style weapons, then at least a restriction. not included in these measures, neitherthen restriction. not included in these measures, neither then chop much at the expansion of brother background checks of those seeking to buy a gun in this country. another thing that president biden and senior democrats had called for. but what this group of bipartisan senators have done is very carefully navigated a path through measures which are acceptable even to those who believe the second amendment of the us constitution is sacrosanct, namely at the right to bear arms, but anything that in hinges upon that should not go through at the house,
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basically. polls have just closed in the first round of parliamentary elections in france, and according to exit polls president emmanuel macron's alliance will top the vote — but his majority is uncertain. we'll be hearing from our paris correspondent shortly. he will be breaking down the figures and explaining to us what it all means. the survivors and bereaved from the grenfell tower tragedy will mark the fifth anniversary of the fire on tuesday. many of the 72 who died followed the official advice to stay put, and the government says it's still the safest thing to do. but it faces legal action from disabled residents, who say ministers have abandoned a commitment to give them personal evacuation plans. here's our home affairs correspondent, tom symonds. a tower block fire. a major lesson from grenfell. sometimes, staying put is dangerous.
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so the london fire brigade has beefed up its training in evacuating buildings. there are new smoke hoods for residents, a new app to track information. you might think stay put would no longer be the policy. but five years after grenfell, the government has re—emphasised that when there is a fire, people should stay put in their flats, because the walls of the flats protect them. the question is, because of grenfell, will people want to stay or will they want to go? michael is moving his stuff out of his south london apartment because fire swept across its roof in april. thankfully, he wasn't at home. if i had been in the building, i think i would have tried to get out. he would have ignored the stay put advice. i probably would have seen it on twitter before anything else. there was people across the road sharing videos of quite
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a big fire on the roof. i think if i had seen that, i would have thought, i'm not going to hang about. and after grenfell, not staying put is the new rule for people in buildings with safety defects. and what if you live with a disability, like sarah rennie? her lift is not designed to work in a fire. she has had an expert draw up a personal evacuation plan. we had a fire in february in this building, and what it meant was that the fire was on the eighth floor and i got below the fire, to the seventh floor, before the fire service had even arrived. before they had come? before they arrived. that is a huge reduction in the risk and increase in the chance of me getting out and staying alive. it means that i can sleep at night. she was advised to get this special evacuation chair, and the grenfell tower inquiry said every resident with mobility issues should be given a bespoke plan. the government doesn't agree.
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how much is it reasonable to spend to do this, at the same time as we seek to protect residents and taxpayers from excessive costs? instead, ministers want to improve the way information about residents with mobility issues is shared with firefighters, so they can better coordinate rescues. but sarah rennie and another campaigner are planning legal action against the government — a stand—off, five years after grenfell, a fire in which 15 disabled people lost their lives. tom symonds, bbc news. former dragons' den star hilary devey has died aged 65, her publicist has confirmed. the businesswoman died, in morocco, after a long illness on saturday. the tv star was made a cbe in 2013, honouring her career in business and for her charitable work. she founded the company, pall—ex, a multimillion—pound freight
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let's speak to theo paphitis, who was a dragon alongside hilary devey on dragons' den. thank you forjoining us. firstly, your thoughts on hearing the news of her death? , ., , , , her death? obviously very saddened. hilla left her death? obviously very saddened. hillary left her _ her death? obviously very saddened. hillary left her mark _ her death? obviously very saddened. hillary left her mark with _ her death? obviously very saddened. hillary left her mark with everybody l hillary left her mark with everybody she ever met. she will not be forgotten. she ever met. she will not be forgotten-— she ever met. she will not be for.otten_ . ., ., ., ~' ., forgotten. what sort of mark that she leave on _ forgotten. what sort of mark that she leave on you? _ forgotten. what sort of mark that she leave on you? when - forgotten. what sort of mark that she leave on you? when she - forgotten. what sort of mark that i she leave on you? when she joined she leave on you? when she “oined draaons' she leave on you? when she “oined dragons- den. i she leave on you? when she “oined dragons' den, we * she leave on you? when she “oined dragons' den, we had i she leave on you? when she joined dragons' den, we had already - she leave on you? when she joined dragons' den, we had already been filming quite a few serious. she came in as a newbie, but totally commanded her position and presence. she had so much presence, so much
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ability. on top of all that, she was ability. on top of all that, she was a very straight talking northern girl. she had this amazing generosity and spirit that went with that. you couldn't help but i actually like her.— that. you couldn't help but i actually like her. generosity of sirit actually like her. generosity of s - irit and actually like her. generosity of spirit and business. _ actually like her. generosity ofj spirit and business. goodness, actually like her. generosity of- spirit and business. goodness, that is quite a combination. you spirit and business. goodness, that is quite a combination.— is quite a combination. you can add to that, not — is quite a combination. you can add to that, not only _ is quite a combination. you can add to that, not only was _ is quite a combination. you can add to that, not only was she _ is quite a combination. you can add to that, not only was she business, j to that, not only was she business, she was a massively successful lady in business in a massively male dominated world in transport. watch as she should never be underestimated.- as she should never be underestimated. ., , as she should never be underestimated. . , ., ~ underestimated. that she ever talk about how she _ underestimated. that she ever talk about how she succeeded - underestimated. that she ever talk about how she succeeded at - underestimated. that she ever talk about how she succeeded at that i about how she succeeded at that role? ~ , ,., , about how she succeeded at that role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget — role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget to! _ role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget to! as _ role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget to! as she _ role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget to! as she often - role? absolutely, constantly. never let us forget to! as she often told i let us forget to! as she often told us, basically come up with lots of great, lots of ground, lots of hard work and not accepting no for an answer. we work and not accepting no for an answer. ~ ., , ., work and not accepting no for an answer. ~ . , ., .,
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answer. we have been hearing more and more about _ answer. we have been hearing more and more about great _ answer. we have been hearing more and more about great particularly i and more about great particularly after the last few years. what can you tell us about her health? what was she like living through that? we hear that she had been ill for some time. ,, . , hear that she had been ill for some time. ,, .,, , ,, ,, time. she was, bless her. she treated it _ time. she was, bless her. she treated it in _ time. she was, bless her. she treated it in exactly _ time. she was, bless her. she treated it in exactly the - time. she was, bless her. she treated it in exactly the same | time. she was, bless her. she - treated it in exactly the same way she always treats her life— just would not let anything get in her way. as far as she was concerned, it was just another challenge if you had to overcome, which she did. she did a couple of serious, which was difficult for her at times. that did a couple of serious, which was difficult for her at times.— difficult for her at times. that she en'o ed difficult for her at times. that she enjoyed the _ difficult for her at times. that she enjoyed the tv — difficult for her at times. that she enjoyed the tv world? _ difficult for her at times. that she enjoyed the tv world? she - difficult for her at times. that she - enjoyed the tv world? she absolutely fell in love with _ enjoyed the tv world? she absolutely fell in love with it. _ enjoyed the tv world? she absolutely fell in love with it. she _ enjoyed the tv world? she absolutely fell in love with it. she never- fell in love with it. she never thought she would, she never thought she would have the patience for it. but she was made for tv. she had a stage presence, charisma. the minute she walked into a room, you knew she was there. ~ .,
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she walked into a room, you knew she was there. ~ . ., , , ~ was there. what was she like? obviously. _ was there. what was she like? obviously. you _ was there. what was she like? obviously, you are _ was there. what was she like? obviously, you are mentoring | was there. what was she like? - obviously, you are mentoring budding entrepreneurs. what she like as a mentor? in particular, what were her thoughts towards other women coming through? because she would have known what they were facing up to. i think she was only disappointed when other business women she would come across would think they would have preferential treatment. she would make it clear to everybody that you have got to make it for yourself. she always used herself as the prime example. the fact that it can be done, no matter what industry you are in, doesn't matter if you dominate set. if you want to do it, then you just do it. she dominate set. if you want to do it, then you just do it.— dominate set. if you want to do it, then you just do it. then you 'ust do it. she sounds like a ve then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave _ then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave women. _ then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave women. like - then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave women. like you - then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave women. like you said, she was operating in a very male dominated world. what was she most proud of? dominated world. what was she most roud of? , ., , , ., , proud of? obviously, her family. they think _ proud of? obviously, her family. they think she _ proud of? obviously, her family. they think she was _ proud of? obviously, her family. they think she was most -
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proud of? obviously, her family. they think she was most proud l proud of? obviously, her family. | they think she was most proud of proud of? obviously, her family. - they think she was most proud of was her achievements, because when she started, and she literally gambled everything to start that business, she was told by everybody she was wasting her money and there was no way she could succeed. but she wasn't having any of that. 30. way she could succeed. but she wasn't having any of that. 30, thank ou ve wasn't having any of that. 30, thank you very much _ wasn't having any of that. 30, thank you very much indeed _ wasn't having any of that. 30, thank you very much indeed for _ wasn't having any of that. 30, thank you very much indeed for sharing i you very much indeed for sharing your thoughts on hilary devey, who has sadly died at the age of 65. let's return to those french elections that have been taking place today. we can speak to our correspondent in paris, hugh schofield. where are we? what are we seeing? what does it mean? tiara seeing? what does it mean? two thins - seeing? what does it mean? two things - one _ seeing? what does it mean? two things - one is— seeing? what does it mean? two things - one is the _ seeing? what does it mean? twr things — one is the percentage at the end of august, the first round. it seems emmanuel macron's party and
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they knew lesser lines are almost neck and neck. that represents a huge success forjean—luc melenchon, he wants to become prime minister essentially. to that extent, a setback for emmanuel macron, who has not established a clear lead over this new left—wing alliance. but this new left—wing alliance. but this is not a presidential election, it is a parliamentary election. it is about constituencies, about 500 577 constituencies across the country. macron is much more comfortable. there is no prospect the left, it seems, of getting a majority in parliament. that means, up majority in parliament. that means, up to a point, emmanuel macron should have his hands fairly free. but this is just the first round. that is another round in a week. we have to seek then if he gets an absolute majority in the national assembly. he does not want to have
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to make coalitions and alliances. if he gets an absolute majority, she would be much freer. it is not clear at all if you will get like a week from today. at all if you will get like a week from today-— at all if you will get like a week from toda . , ., ., ., ., from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion — from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion he _ from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion he will— from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion he will get _ from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion he will get that. - from today. so, it is not a foregone conclusion he will get that. there i conclusion he will get that. there was a lot of talk in the build—up to this about high voter abstention. why was that a concern? because it was worn out- _ why was that a concern? because it was worn out. -- _ why was that a concern? because it was worn out. -- because _ why was that a concern? because it was worn out. -- because it - why was that a concern? because it was worn out. -- because it was i was worn out. —— because it was borne out. it continually is a trend for many years now. this one... next week's second round will probably be pretty paltry as well. it is part of the larger picture across democracies, i suppose, the larger picture across democracies, isuppose, about the larger picture across democracies, i suppose, about the lack of faith in politics stop but there are added problems here in france, we havejust had there are added problems here in france, we have just had a presidential election which tends to attract most interest. people do turn out in large numbers to the
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presidential they see the... not really much interest and that has been a lacklustre campaign as well. the northern ireland secretary says a bill due to be published tomorrow overriding parts of the post—brexit trading protocol with the eu, will not break international law. the protocol arrangement, sees certain goods getting checked when they cross the irish sea to northern ireland from great britain, in case they cross in to the republic of ireland and, therefore, into the european union. in moscow, the first former mcdonalds restaurant has re—opened under new management and branding. the us fast food giant pulled out of russia after the invasion of ukraine. this was the scene on pushkin square — the first mcdonald's to open its doors in russia, in 1990 — as it became the vkusno i tochka store. that translates into english as "tasty, and that's it."
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