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this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at eight. the family of former british soldier, jordan gatley, say he's been killed fighting for the ukrainian armed forces in the eastern city of severodonetsk. ministers order a review into whether a five pence cut in fuel duty is being passed on to drivers. it's horrendous, i don't know how people are going to survive. i rely on my car all the time and it is a huge cost to everybody. it comes as a leading business group tells the bbc, they believe households in the uk will go into recession this year. french president, emmanuel macron�*s centrist alliance, is on track to win the largest number of seats in parliament, after the first round of voting —
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that's according to projections. it remains unclear if his alliance will get a majority. disability campaigners are taking legal action against the government for not backing a recommendation from the grenfell tower inquiry, to give vulnerable residents of high—rise buildings personal fire evacuation plans. in the us, a group of bipartisan senators say they have agreed a framework for potential legislation on gun safety. president biden hails it as a step forward. tributes are paid to the businesswoman and former star of dragons' den — hilary devey — who has died at the age of 65. obviously very saddened. but hillary left her mark with everybody she or and she will not be forgotten.
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a british family say their son has been killed while fighting russian forces in the east of ukraine. jordan gatley, who left the british army in march to travel to ukraine, was shot in the city of severodonetsk, the scene of intense fighting in recent days. in a tribute on social media, his father said his son was a hero. our correspondent in kyiv — nick beake — has the latest jordan gatley�*s dad, dean, has said that his son travelled to ukraine after careful consideration and was helping to train ukrainian troops. he'd apparently told his family that he knew he was carrying out dangerous missions, but thought that they were necessary and that they were really making a difference. but on friday, the
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family say that they were told he had been killed on the front line in the fighting. in paying tribute to him, they have described him as a hero who will live on in their hearts. he is the second briton to die in ukraine. back in march, the head of the british armed forces urged people not to come out here to fight, but to find other ways of showing their support. but clearly, jordan gatley made the decision to come here, and he has now lost his life trying to defend ukraine. earlier, i spoke to alice bromage, a former british army major who served in afghanistan and iran twice, and was deployed for two years in the balkans. she also has a business specialising in resilience and leadership. i asked her why someone would choose to make a difference in ukraine. you go through a lot of training and you go through hell and high water! so, you want to make sure you feel that when making a difference, are you helping protect the idea that we are trying to protect those who can't protect ourselves?
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the mentality that you're trying to look after, again, those who may not have the skills or acumen that you have as a soldier. my understand is thatjordan left the services earlier on this year and from that perspective it seems quite a natural choice. it's not surprising that he then looks at where there's a war—torn nation close to home that potentially i can use the skills that i've developed whilst in the army, the camaraderie is very strong in the british army so you're going to work with another team when you're going to be a civilian that can be quite challenging, where you're going to find similar camaraderie to the forces. and that making a difference is failing that, are you going to be taking a risk? yes, but do you think it's worth the reward of helping to protect another nation that's an ally and who we've served alongside...
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ukraine have been in afghanistan with us, ukrainian special forces were a big part of helping with the evacuations last summer in kabul. so therefore making a difference, how can i pay back and give something back to some of the nations who are our allies? and see them as worth taking a risk for. do you think you're born with that mindset or is it something that you learn as part of your training when you enter the services? i think the nature/nurture is always an interesting discussion point. i think both. so, often the development of that realfocus on, you know, trying to work with purpose and like i say, when you go through training, the soldiers or officers, it's hard. you're then going into war—torn countries across the globe where scenarios are both physically and mentally challenging. one of the best ways to get through heavy risks to life but also stress is to know that you are doing it, because it's a purpose that you believe in. part of the values and standards that are reiterated every year we go
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through, working and living alongside each other helps to develop a sense of purpose and the wish to make sure that while you're going through, physically or mentally, challenging exercises, training, development, is because you think it's going to be making a difference for anotherfamily, another nation and our own. ukraine is quite close by. and so you maybe have partly inherited but also developed while serving. very quickly, it almost sounds as if it becomes addictive. this need to serve. you're laughing, you know what i'm talking about. he was serving in a country that was not his own. this is what i think confuses people and you're putting your life on the line. i think there's a really interesting aspect, looking at when he left the army and you're going to go, how do i make use of the skills and knowledge i have and make
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sure my life is being used for something i believe is going to make a difference. that sometimes can sound a bit right and giving lip service but actually he's come out and he's got an opportunity to go to a different nation and serve alongside other soldiers and people protecting civilian populace within ukraine. i can see why that would be natural. i'm not suggesting whether it's right or wrong. but it's natural to want to use the skills we have and that is a close to home environment where you know you can provide some good, fighting alongside, like you say, soldiers we potentially served alongside before. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 and 11:30 this evening in the papers. our guests joining me tonight are sienna rodgers, senior writer,
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at the house magazine; and rachel watson, scottish political editor for the scottish sun. with fuel prices soaring, there's to be an urgent review into whether a five pence fuel duty cut is being passed on, in full, to drivers. the government has asked the competition and markets authority to examine the fuel market for local variations in petrol and diesel prices. the cost of filling an average family car, hit a record £100 last week. it comes as the confederation of british industry, warned that waning consumer spending, will mean households going into recession later this year. our political correspondent, helen catt reports. the cost of filling up has been going up, and up. this week, the cost of a full tank for an average family car hit £100. it's actually a killer. i don't know how i'm going to carry on affording travelling. it's horrendous. i don't know how people are going to survive. i rely on my car all the time, and it's a huge cost to everybody. today, i can announce...
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in march, the chancellor announced he was cutting the tax the government charges on petrol and diesel, fuel duty, by 5p per litre, but there are concerns the saving has not found its way to the forecourts. now ministers have instructed the independent regulator to investigate. we have got to make sure it is being passed on and once we get the review of that, then it will be right to look at what more, if we need to, we can do to help people to make sure it is actually getting to where we want. there are calls for the government to cut fuel duty by more than 5p, as some other european countries have. labour wouldn't confirm if it would do so but said the review was overdue. naming and shaming, which was their previous policy, wasjust never going to work. we need to make sure that we have got a functioning energy market. petrol retailers insist the cut is being reflected in prices at the pump. the regulator says it stands ready to take action if it finds competition is not working properly. but of course, it's notjust petrol and diesel that is costing more. food and energy bills have
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pushed inflation to its highest level in decades and business leaders say households are feeling the squeeze well before the wider economy. well, i think the truth is, households are going to go into recession this year. what do i mean by that? i mean that consumption, spending that we all make in the high streets, and on discretionary goods, that is going to go negative already this year. and the only thing really stopping us from having a full—blown recession this year is that at the moment, business investment levels are quite high. he also said the government needed to make big decisions quickly and warned that the sort of political drama we have seen this week is bad for economics. downing street is certainly keen to move on from the drama. it wants to draw a line under last week's confidence vote and shift the focus back onto policy but the vote brought back into the open a wider debate within the conservative party about which direction those policies should take, particularly around tax. some are calling for tax cuts to come in much faster than promised. the government has already spent big
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on cost of living support. it puts the total at £37 billion. as households continue to feel the squeeze, there is likely to be pressure to do even more. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. well, one group feeling the heat are the ice cream vendors. industry chiefs are now warning they could be forced to ditch their businesses as rising fuel prices take a toll on their diesel engine ice cream vans. paul field was awarded �*ice cream man of the year in 2017. i spoke to him earlier — and asked him how he was coping. just put 70 litres of diesel at £137. the thing is, we only take money when we're on the road and it's going to cost us money to go on the road. we'll be losing money soon. it's just terrible. how much did it cost you this time last year? £50.
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rocketing. what does that mean for your business then? we can't put the price up no more because we're at max and it willjust put us out of business. we can't have we need. it's only £2 an ice cream. we need to sell a lot of ice creams. and if it's raining, it won't be cost effective to go to work. we just go to work in the sunny days. so what are your plans? well, normally we have plans, but i've got no plans. no plans, i'm just completely lost of what to do. it'sjust going up and up and up. and i have not got a clue what to do. it's really upsetting. have you spoken to anyone at all? is there any support from the local council or anything like that? no, nothing. the ice cream alliance, our board, they're looking into it. but what can we do? we're not the only ones. buses, delivering parcel, postman. these are these was the backbone of the whole of the country. you know, i never invented diesel, but we need diesel to get the power. and everybody�*s been affected and nobody�*s listening. how much would a full tank last? a full tank. well, the way things are going, we do more hours in the summer. full tank,
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about five days. five to six days. are you are you at the point of losing money at the moment? our business used to be plus ten. i'm going to be minus one next nine minus one next week minus two. and we'd be losing money and we'll have to think what to do very, very, very strongly. do you think that people would consider a more expensive ice cream? was that something you would even consider? i had to put the ice cream up last year when dairy products went up and electric went up for the cold room. i can't put it up no more, no more because people will stop buying and i'll be out of business. i'm going to have to run at a loss for a few months and hopefully fuel will come down. how long are you going to give it? you say a few months. two, three months? see out the summer. what are you going to do? i'll see out the summer. i'll get into the winter and then i'll have to see what happens and maybe look at getting anotherjob. french president, emmanuel macron�*s
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centrist alliance is on track to win the largest number of seats in parliament, in the first round of voting — that's according to projections. but macron�*s alliance is facing a strong challenge from a united left—wing bloc led byjean—luc melenchon, which could deprive the president of an outright majority. according to various polls, macron�*s alliance is projected to win between 260 and 310 seats and the leftwing coalition to win 150 to 220 seats. the run—off of french parliamentary elections will be held next sunday. joining me now is the french politicaljournalist, catherine guilyardi who can bring us the latest from paris. good evening to you. thank you for joining us on bbc news. first question, if he doesn't get this outright majority, what does that mean? how will the next five years
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luck? ~ ., , mean? how will the next five years luck? ~ . , ., luck? well, it means that the next prime minister _ luck? well, it means that the next prime minister will _ luck? well, it means that the next prime minister will be _ luck? well, it means that the next prime minister will be the - luck? well, it means that the next prime minister will be the one - luck? well, it means that the next| prime minister will be the one who has got the majority in the parliament and if it's the left wing thenit parliament and if it's the left wing then it will be a left—wing president... sorry, prime minister with a centre—right president, emmanuel macron. it will be the first time in 20 years that we have a cohabitation. we've had that before but then the system changed, the presidential elections were put to the same year as the general election, which was not the case before. it's the first time since we reformed our political system that there might be a president elected in april and a totally different majority injune in the parliamentary elections. so it means that mr macron�*s agenda will not be able... he cannot put his agenda through. 50 able... he cannot put his agenda throu~h. ., ., �* through. so from what you've described. — through. so from what you've described, will— through. so from what you've described, will that _ through. so from what you've described, will that make - through. so from what you've described, will that make for| through. so from what you've - described, will that make for pretty messy politics in france, then?
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well, actually, we now have a presidential system. the president is the more powerful man in the country, even though we vote for our mps in another election, the president has quite a lot of power. when the parliament is in the same majority as his. the united left, which is new because it hasn't been united in many years, it wants to change it to be a parliamentary election. they are very different parties, four different parties, the left and the green parties but they want to rule in a parliamentary system, meaning that of course they'll have to agree on the agenda of the prime minister, who will have to come from their ranks, which means there will be debate between those different parties to decide which law they want to vote, etc, which law they want to vote, etc, which is not the case now. what happens is that the parliament, in
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the last five years, it's happened before, actually votes for what the president agrees with and this would be different obviously because the president will not be of the majority of the parliament. so it's a complex election because it's not a complex election because it's not a majority election, it's not a proportional election, it's in the middle. so basically we have 500 candidates from the left, 577 constituencies, meaning that they are potentially able to be elected mps next sunday. but of course they haven't won exactly the same percentage as the presidential movement, for example and therefore they're not expected to win in so and so constituencies. that's why you have this amazing figure where you have this amazing figure where you said between 260 and 310. we don't know, sometimes i read 350. we don't know, sometimes i read 350. we don't know, sometimes i read 350. we don't know yet. 0k.
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don't know, sometimes i read 350. we don't know yet-— don't know yet. 0k. voter apathy. i've noted — don't know yet. 0k. voter apathy. i've noted that _ don't know yet. 0k. voter apathy. i've noted that it's _ don't know yet. 0k. voter apathy. i've noted that it's the _ don't know yet. 0k. voter apathy. i've noted that it's the highest - i've noted that it's the highest ever recorded. how is that going to affect mr macron's agenda? is he going to take it on—board? how is france feeling at the moment? going to take it on-board? how is france feeling at the moment? nearly 53% of france feeling at the moment? nearly 5396 of the french _ france feeling at the moment? nearly 5396 of the french people _ france feeling at the moment? nearly 5396 of the french people didn't - france feeling at the moment? nearly 5396 of the french people didn't come| 53% of the french people didn't come and vote, those on the left, and it's just going and vote, those on the left, and it'sjust going up. every and vote, those on the left, and it's just going up. every five years we have fewer people voting. younger people are not coming to vote. so it is a problem, it's not being addressed at all. regional elections, nearly 80% in some regions. what's the meaning of this vote? we don't really address this question in this country and maybe we should. ~ �* . we should. we'll leave it there. thank you _ we should. we'll leave it there. thank you very _ we should. we'll leave it there. thank you very much _ we should. we'll leave it there. thank you very much indeed. . the survivors and bereaved from the grenfell tower tragedy will mark the fifth anniversary of the fire on tuesday. many of the 72 who died followed
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the official advice to stay put and the government says it's still the safest thing to do. but it faces legal action from disabled residents who say ministers have abandoned a commitment to give them personal evacuation plans. here's our home affairs correspondent tom symonds. a tower block fire. a major lesson from grenfell. sometimes, staying put is dangerous. so, we are going to put a smoke hood onto you and we are going to escort you out, ok? so the london fire brigade has beefed up its training in evacuating buildings. there are new smoke hoods for residents, a new app to track information. you might think stay put would no longer be the policy. but five years after grenfell, the government has reemphasised that when there is a fire, people should stay put in their flats, because the walls of the flats protect them.
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the question is, because of grenfell, will people want to stay or will they want to go? michael is moving his stuff out of his south london apartment because fire swept across its roof in april. thankfully, he wasn't at home. if i had been in the building, i think i would have tried to get out. he would have ignored the stay put advice. i probably would have seen it on twitter before anything else. there was people across the road sharing videos of quite a big fire on the roof. i think if i had seen that, i would have thought, i'm not going to hang about. and after grenfell, not staying put is the new rule for people in buildings with safety defects. and what if you live with a disability, like sarah rennie? her lift is not designed to work in a fire. she has had an expert draw up a personal evacuation plan. we had a fire in february in this
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building and what it meant was that the fire was on the eighth floor and i got below the fire, to the seventh floor, before the fire service had even arrived. before they had come? before they arrived. that is a huge reduction in the risk and increase in the chance of me getting out and staying alive. it means that i can sleep at night. she was advised to get this special evacuation chair, and the grenfell tower inquiry said every resident with mobility issues should be given a bespoke plan. the government doesn't agree. how much is it reasonable to spend to do this, at the same time as we seek to protect residents and taxpayers from excessive costs? instead, ministers want to improve the way information about residents with mobility issues is shared with firefighters, so they can better coordinate rescues. but sarah rennie and another campaigner are planning legal action against the government — a stand—off, five years after grenfell, a fire in which 15
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disabled people lost their lives. tom symonds, bbc news. a group of senators from both sides of the political divide in the united states have reached a framework agreement aimed at curbing gun violence, following a spate of mass shootings. the measures includes tougher background checks for gun buyers under the age of 21 and cracking down on illegal gun purchases. the legislation needs to pass — in both houses of congress. our correspondent in los angeles, david willis, told me what's been announced. the proposals are modest but nevertheless highly significant. they've been trying to get tougher gun control laws through congress for decades now and so this represents quite a significant agreement. it has, as you said, still to passed into law. it has to be drawn up legislatively and put to the whole senate but crucially,
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it has the backing, this proposal, of ten republican senators that were needed to get it past the post, the post, if you like, into law, voted upon from the senate. to answer your question, what we're talking here is tighter background checks for gun sales involving purchases under the age of 21, including delving intojuvenile records and mental health records and so on. federal funding for tighter security at schools, greater investment in local mental health checks and so on, and the expansion as well of so—called red flag laws. these are laws that are already in place in some 19 separate states, which basically are meant to alert officials when somebody who has possession of a gun is deemed a risk either to themselves or other people. president biden has welcomed the news of this agreement. he says it doesn't go far enough but he's called it a step in the right direction.
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ok, so he said it doesn't go far enough. how far would he have wanted it to go? well he would have liked to have seen, ideally, a ban on assault weapons of the kind that were used not only in the uvalde shooting, in which 19 schoolchildren lost their lives, but also a previous shooting just about ten days before that in buffalo, new york in which ten people were gunned down by white supremacist in a grocery store. if not an altogether ban on the wide availability of assault—style weapons, then at least a curb on their purchase, confining it to those under the age of 21. not included in these measures. neither the broad expansion of background checks, the look into the background of those seeking to buy a gun in this country. another thing that president biden and senior democrats had called for. what they've done, this group of bipartisan senators, is very carefully navigate a path through measures that are acceptable
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even to those who believe that the second amendment of the us constitution is sacrosanct, namely the right to bear arms, that anything impinging on that should not be given house run, basically. the northern ireland secretary says a bill due to be published tomorrow overriding parts of the post—brexit trading protocol with the eu, will not break international law. the protocol arrangement sees certain goods getting checked when they cross the irish sea to northern ireland from great britain, in case they cross in to the republic of ireland and therefore in to the european union. loyalists in northern ireland want to see these rules scrapped but republican politicians say that is against the wishes of the people of northern ireland. former dragons' den star hilary devey has died aged 65, her publicist has confirmed.
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the businesswoman died in morocco after a long illness on saturday. the tv star was made a cbe in 2013, honouring her career in business and for her charitable work. she founded the company, pall—ex, a multimillion—pound freight distribution business, after selling her home and car in the �*90s to finance it. theo paphitis was a dragon alongside hilary devey. hejoined me earlier to give us his reaction to the news. obviously i'm very saddened. but hilary left her mark with everybody she ever met and she will not be forgotten. what sort of mark did she leave on you, then, theo? 0h... when shejoined dragons' den, we had already been filming for quite a few series. so she came into the den as a newbie, but totally commanded her position and presence.
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she had so much charisma, so much ability. on top of all that, she was a very straight talking northern girl, but she had this amazing generosity of spirit that went with that, so you couldn't help but actually like her. generosity of spirit and business. goodness, that is quite a combination, isn't it? you can add to that, not only was she in business, she was a massively successful lady in business in a massively male—dominated world in transport. hm. so what she achieved should never be underestimated. did she ever talk about how she succeeded at that role? oh, absolutely, constantly. she never let us forget it, bless her! oh, do share. that's basically, as she often told us, with lots of grit, lots of grind, lots of hard work and not accepting no for an answer. we have been hearing more and more
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about grit, particularly over the last few years and just coming through the hard times. what can you tell us about her health? what was she like living through that? we hear that she had been ill for some time. she was, bless her, and... she treated it in exactly the same way she always treated her life — just would not let anything get in her way. as far as she was concerned, it was just another challenge she had to overcome, which she did and we did a couple of series together, which was difficult for her at times, but nobody would ever, ever know. did she enjoy the tv world? she absolutely fell in love with it. she would've told you if she was here, she never thought she would — she never thought she would have the patience for it. but she was made for tv. she had stage presence, charisma, as i said earlier. the minute she walked into a room, you knew she was there.
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what was she like? obviously, you are mentoring, working with budding entrepreneurs. what she like as a mentor? in particular, what were her thoughts towards other women coming through? because she would have known what they were facing up to. i think she was always... the only time she was ever disappointed is when other business women she would come across would think they would have any preferential treatment. she used to actually make it clear to everybody that you have got to make it for yourself. she always used herself as the prime example and the fact that it can be done. it doesn't matter what industry you are in, doesn't matter who dominates it. if you want to do it, then you just do it. she sounds like a very brave woman. like you said, she was operating in a very male—dominated world. what was she most proud of, theo? i think that's exactly what she was most proud about.
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obviously, her family. but the thing she was most proud of was her achievements because when she started, and she literally gambled everything to start that business — she was told by everybody she was wasting her money and there was no way she could succeed. but she wasn't having any of that. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. southern and eastern parts of the best of the sunshine. that's also where we'll see most of the warmth that's going to build through the coming week. through tonight, where we have clear skies, it will turn a little bit chilly, but we'll see thicker clouds rolling in to western scotland. those temperatures and some spots down into single digits. tomorrow, we will see cloud and patchy rain pushing and across the west and the north of scotland.
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