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to start that business — she was told by everybody she was wasting her money and there was no way she could succeed. but she wasn't having any of that. theo paphitis speaking about the former dragons�* den star hilary devey has died aged 65. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sienna rodgers, senior writer at the house magazine, and rachel watson, scottish political editor at the scottish sun. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the mail leads on the rwanda asylum policy calling it the "new rwanda flight farce"
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as all migrants due on the first plane tomorrow enter appeals. the i also focuses on the same story, saying the "flights may not get off the ground" amid a potential last—minute decision from the court of appeal on monday. the financial times has a report on the northern ireland trade deal where conservative backbenchers are putting pressure on the prime minister to rip it up. "death of our hero." the metro's frontpage focuses on former british soldierjordan gatley, the second brit to be killed fighting for ukraine. the guardian features a stark warning from the confederation of british industry that overriding the northern irish deal will damage uk investment. the times lead on a new policy coming into force this week where universities will be forced to reveal investment from so—called "foreign actors" in a move to crackdown on undue overseas influence on higher education.
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"one million kids to go hungry" says the mirror, in their report that the prime minister is snubbing a plea to extend free school meals. so let's begin... a very good evening to both of you. sienna rodgers, you are going to kick us off with the front page of the metro. the headline is, death and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad — and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad story. _ and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad story. this _ and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad story. this is _ and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad story. this is about. and our hero. yes, so obviously this is a very sad story. this is about a i is a very sad story. this is about a former british soldier, who i think left the british army in march and he has been killed fighting in ukraine. his family has revealed that and they have praised his courage as a hero. jordan gately, —— jordan gatley, who is only 2a, and he was shot in severodonetsk, which is one of the places where it has become a real focal point of russia's efforts to advance because it is in eastern ukraine, so it is
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near those regions of luhansk and donetsk and it is one of those places where really there has been relentless fighting for years now, going back to 2014. there havejust been absolutely vicious fighting and of course this has escalated at the moment with the, you know, after the russian invasion, so, you know, in recent days it has been under relentless fire and really in residential areas, relentless fire and really in residentialareas, in relentless fire and really in residential areas, in particular, just really heavy artillery from the russians and hundreds of civilians have been in underground shelters and taking shelter in a chemicals plant that actually caught fire. it is very incredibly distressing and just sort of, yes. a lot of violence there at the moment, so i think, you know, the british government has said that it doesn't encourage people to go and fight in ukraine from britain, but obviously everyone
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will be mourning this man, jordan gatley, who did do that and went and fought in ukraine and has now died. and he was so young, rachel watson, 24 years old. and we don't really have, for obvious security reasons, an idea of how many brits are serving in ukraine at the moment. no, we don't, but as sienna said, the government had made clear that although— the government had made clear that although they don't support people --oin although they don't support people going over, there have been concerned about prosecution, but when _ concerned about prosecution, but when i _ concerned about prosecution, but when i think when you see something like this, _ when i think when you see something like this, you know, there will be so many— like this, you know, there will be so many people mourning the loss of jordan— so many people mourning the loss of jordan and _ so many people mourning the loss of jordan and i— so many people mourning the loss of jordan and i read the facebook post his dad _ jordan and i read the facebook post his dad pui— jordan and i read the facebook post his dad put up earlier and he was talking _ his dad put up earlier and he was talking about how personally how many _ talking about how personally how many messages he got back from people _ many messages he got back from people who knew him in ukraine, but there _ people who knew him in ukraine, but there are _ people who knew him in ukraine, but there are a _ people who knew him in ukraine, but there are a number of british people out there. _ there are a number of british people out there, we presume. we don't have those _ out there, we presume. we don't have those exact— out there, we presume. we don't have those exact numbers, as you say, for security— those exact numbers, as you say, for security reasons. back in march i was over— security reasons. back in march i was over in— security reasons. back in march i was over in poland on the border with ukraine and met a number of people _ with ukraine and met a number of people around the world, from around
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the world, _ people around the world, from around the world, many of whom from the uk, who were _ the world, many of whom from the uk, who were going over to fight and to help and _ who were going over to fight and to help and who had a range of experience, people who had military experience, people who had military experience, people who had absolutely no military experience, but felt _ absolutely no military experience, but felt they should go over. people who went _ but felt they should go over. people who went over and then went back because _ who went over and then went back because they did not know what to expect, _ because they did not know what to expect, they had never been in a war zone before, — expect, they had never been in a war zone before, but they decided to stay and — zone before, but they decided to stay and provide aid instead. we don't _ stay and provide aid instead. we don't know— stay and provide aid instead. we don't know what that number is, but the longer— don't know what that number is, but the longer this war goes on and unfortunately it does look like there — unfortunately it does look like there is— unfortunately it does look like there is no end in sight, more stories— there is no end in sight, more stories we _ there is no end in sight, more stories we are going to hear like this. 0k. let's turn to the front _ hear like this. 0k. let's turn to the front page _ hear like this. 0k. let's turn to the front page of _ hear like this. 0k. let's turn to the front page of the _ hear like this. 0k. let's turn to the front page of the financiall the front page of the financial times and wow, quite strong accusations, damaging the uk and everything the conservatives stand for, reads the paper. these are directed at borisjohnson, c yes, thatis directed at borisjohnson, c yes, that is about as strong as it gets, isn't it? ., isn't it? damaging the uk, everything _ isn't it? damaging the uk, everything the _ isn't it? damaging the uk, l everything the conservatives isn't it? damaging the uk, - everything the conservatives stand for, that is a very big accusation.
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basically we are now re—entering another massive brexit row. i mean, i think everyone what you will probably think, oh, god, haven't we had enough of this? it is basically a replay of the row we had over the internal market bill, which was a vicious one, we knew there were concerns that the bill could breach international law basically by trying to rewrite or override the northern ireland protocol, which is what was agreed in order to get brexit done. but, you know, there are all sorts of problems around this kind of legislation actually getting through parliament because the house of lords can just keep sending it back and keep making arguments that it could break international law, so basically we are having the same row again. so tomorrow, monday in the house of commons liz truss is going to be presenting a new bill, a northern ireland protocol bill, and some tory mps who say again, this is risking
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breaking international law and they intend to vote against the bill, so there is a brief going around our sister publication politics home revealed this today, this internal memo that has been circulating amongst tory mps and two mps told us that they were preparing themselves for having the whip removed for actually voting against this bill, so it is another really big row that is coming up. so it is another really big row that is coming urn-— turn to the guardian, they also lead with this story, rachel watson, and the warning from the cbi. yes. with this story, rachel watson, and the warning from the cbi.— with this story, rachel watson, and the warning from the cbi. yes, and i think this shows _ the warning from the cbi. yes, and i think this shows where _ the warning from the cbi. yes, and i think this shows where we _ the warning from the cbi. yes, and i think this shows where we are - the warning from the cbi. yes, and i think this shows where we are with l think this shows where we are with this and _ think this shows where we are with this and the level of unhappiness with the — this and the level of unhappiness with the government and boris johnson's — with the government and boris johnson's plans here and, you know, yotr're _ johnson's plans here and, you know, you're talking about the tories and how this _ you're talking about the tories and how this is — you're talking about the tories and how this is going down potentially in the _ how this is going down potentially in the house of commons and the house _ in the house of commons and the house of— in the house of commons and the house of lords and how difficult it will be _ house of lords and how difficult it will be for— house of lords and how difficult it will be for boris johnson and government to move the legislation there. _ government to move the legislation there. trut— government to move the legislation there. but i— government to move the legislation there, but i think this is well from there, but i think this is well from the cbi _ there, but i think this is well from the cbi is— there, but i think this is well from the cbi is a — there, but i think this is well from the cbi is a very clear warning about—
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the cbi is a very clear warning about their concerns over the impact this witt— about their concerns over the impact this will have on investment in the uk. this will have on investment in the uk we _ this will have on investment in the uk. we have a government that talks about— uk. we have a government that talks about wanting to grow investment and .row about wanting to grow investment and grow their— about wanting to grow investment and grow their economy, but the cbi director—general saying that actually _ director—general saying that actually this is going to have the opposite — actually this is going to have the opposite effect and damage it. he makes _ opposite effect and damage it. he makes it— opposite effect and damage it. he makes it very clear he feels the eu are being _ makes it very clear he feels the eu are being impacted by this and also what the _ are being impacted by this and also what the uk are doing is unhelpful, so he _ what the uk are doing is unhelpful, so he is _ what the uk are doing is unhelpful, so he is having a pop at both sides, saying _ so he is having a pop at both sides, saying you — so he is having a pop at both sides, saying you need to come together and sort this— saying you need to come together and sort this out _ saying you need to come together and sort this out and talk it through. nobody— sort this out and talk it through. nobody needs to be politically grandstanding at this point because it doesnt— grandstanding at this point because it doesn't help the people who need help here, _ it doesn't help the people who need help here, it doesn't help businesses and i don't think... when we hear— businesses and i don't think... when we hear li2— businesses and i don't think... when we hear liz truss tomorrow, when we see what _ we hear liz truss tomorrow, when we see what she — we hear liz truss tomorrow, when we see what she has got to publish, i think— see what she has got to publish, i think there — see what she has got to publish, i think there will be a further outcry and going — think there will be a further outcry and going into this week, another week— and going into this week, another week that — and going into this week, another week that the prime minister will have to _ week that the prime minister will have to try and live through, i think — have to try and live through, i think it— have to try and live through, i think. . , _, have to try and live through, i think. . , ,., , ., have to try and live through, i think. . , , ., , ., ., think. a second story on the front .ae. think. a second story on the front -a~e of think. a second story on the front page of the _ think. a second story on the front page of the guardian _ think. a second story on the front page of the guardian is _ think. a second story on the front page of the guardian is looking i think. a second story on the front j page of the guardian is looking at borisjohnson's page of the guardian is looking at boris johnson's food strategy. the plan is not a strategy, though, says
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an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes. plan is not a strategy, though, says an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes, so henry dimbleby. _ an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes, so henry dimbleby, this _ an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes, so henry dimbleby, this is _ an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes, so henry dimbleby, this is the - an adviser, sienna rodgers? yes, so henry dimbleby, this is the founderl henry dimbleby, this is the founder of leon, the food chain but i am definitely a fan of. so he did this paper. i think it was last year, and he has basically issued this damning verdict about the government's plans. it has got these... these national plans combat food policy and obesity, but henry dimbleby has said that it could mean more children will go hungry. he has said it is not a strategy, it doesn't set out a clear vision as to why we have the problems we have now and it doesn't set out what needs to be done. so pretty damn comments there. and it is not going to be... unfortunately, it is probably not going to be the biggest row issue politically. i mean, it probably should be. the focus should be
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exactly on this issue, food security, food poverty, food self—sufficiency in britain. all of these things are the kind of things we really need to be talking about because... i mean, we probably will because... i mean, we probably will be soon because they have been so many warnings, especially from the bank of england, that food prices are probably going to, you know, escalate to a ridiculous level in this country later this year. so... it is going to be one of those things where it is probably incredibly high on the agenda of people, you know, normal people, voters. but it is probably not as hot a political issue are something like the northern ireland protocol bill row, which, you know, may in the end end up as the previous bit of legislation did, the government backing down and withdrawing bits of the bill and that sort of thing, so it is a really important conversation, but it probably won't get as much attention as it deserves, i think. get as much attention as it deserves, ithink. i get as much attention as it deserves, ithink. iwonder if you have had a— deserves, ithink. iwonder if you have had a look— deserves, ithink. iwonder if you have had a look at _ deserves, ithink. iwonder if you have had a look at some - deserves, ithink. iwonder if you have had a look at some of - deserves, ithink. iwonder if youj
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have had a look at some of those recommendations yet, rachel watson? i thinkjust going through it, this is obviously an issue that... the strategy. — is obviously an issue that... the strategy, and i have not gone through— strategy, and i have not gone through the recommendations fully, actually, _ through the recommendations fully, actually, because this is a reserved issue, _ actually, because this is a reserved issue. so— actually, because this is a reserved issue. so it — actually, because this is a reserved issue, so it doesn't impact when we have _ issue, so it doesn't impact when we have got— issue, so it doesn't impact when we have got to — issue, so it doesn't impact when we have got to this. the scottish government have got their own views and how— government have got their own views and how we _ government have got their own views and how we work around this, but i think— and how we work around this, but i think sienna — and how we work around this, but i think sienna rodgers is right, this isn't an— think sienna rodgers is right, this isn't an issue north or south of the border— isn't an issue north or south of the border that— isn't an issue north or south of the border that hasn't had an awful lot of uptick — border that hasn't had an awful lot of uptick i— border that hasn't had an awful lot of uptick. i think sometimes we saw it, of uptick. i think sometimes we saw it. take _ of uptick. i think sometimes we saw it. take that— of uptick. i think sometimes we saw it, take that special moment that it shouldn't— it, take that special moment that it shouldn't take when you had someone like marcus— shouldn't take when you had someone like marcus rashford, for example, or a celebrity who started raising these _ or a celebrity who started raising theseissues or a celebrity who started raising these issues that actually politicians should be making these things _ politicians should be making these things. this is what we should be talking _ things. this is what we should be talking about. why isn't this the top slot — talking about. why isn't this the top slot in — talking about. why isn't this the top slot in the guardian, for example? _ top slot in the guardian, for example? and it is because the northern— example? and it is because the northern ireland protocol is the biggest — northern ireland protocol is the biggest issue, as sienna rodgers said, _ biggest issue, as sienna rodgers said. the — biggest issue, as sienna rodgers said, the big hot hot political topic, — said, the big hot hot political topic, that people are more inclined topic, that people are more inclined to talk— topic, that people are more inclined to talk about, rather than things voters _ to talk about, rather than things
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voters actually want to talk about, especially — voters actually want to talk about, especially when there's a cost of living _ especially when there's a cost of living crisis. | especially when there's a cost of living crisis-— living crisis. i 'ust had a look at the stories — living crisis. ijust had a look at the stories online _ living crisis. ijust had a look at the stories online and - living crisis. ijust had a look at the stories online and the - living crisis. ijust had a look atj the stories online and the story living crisis. ijust had a look at. the stories online and the story on the stories online and the story on the front pages looking at the it system and our families are system and ourfamilies are missing out from the voucher scheme because it is not working. that is what they said, i will leave it there. if we turn to the i, wanda is on the front page, the first of two stories we are looking at for this paper. the paper saying that the flights may not even get off the ground. sienna rodgers? not even get off the ground. sienna roduers? . �* , not even get off the ground. sienna roduers? ., �*, rodgers? that's right, so we saw this week a _ rodgers? that's right, so we saw this week a high _ rodgers? that's right, so we saw this week a high court _ rodgers? that's right, so we saw this week a high court ruling - rodgers? that's right, so we saw. this week a high court ruling which said that this flight early next week that is just coming could take off. however, there was permission given to the claimants to appeal. so tomorrow we are going to be seeing whether it is the policy of the government is defeated in a court of appeal. at the same time, which the other story kind of goes into in a
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bit more detail, there are also individual claims being put in by the claimants, the refugees, who were being put on this flight 31 people tomorrow and all of this altogether means that there is a good chance people in government feel, ministers and officials, feel that there is a good chance that the removal flights will not be able to actually go ahead. they can go ahead, even if there isjust one person out of the 31 on the flight, but it could be that there is... you know, there are all these different kinds of appeals going on, judicial review, these things take weeks and weeks, so it could be that obviously priti patel is a really, really keen to get this plan of the ground in order to dissuade people from trying to cross in small boats. this is something that tory mps, you know, it is like... it is very important to them. i mean, some tory mps have raised concerns that maybe it is not
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compliant with the human rights act, etc, but many are very pleased with this policy, actually. i spoke to a red wall tory mp recently who told me he had received twice as many e—mails about people coming over in small boats, compared to the kind of barnard castle dominic cummings scandal, which really blew up tory mp boxes and his constituency is nowhere near the coast at all, so it is obviously something, the kind of thing people do get very het up about and contact their mps about, it is something mps do feel shift slopes, but obviously they are hoping this plan can actually work —— track can shift votes. so i think the government would be too hesitant about getting into a big row with the court saying lefty lawyers are blocking our plan and they have already said things like that, but at the same time the tory mps think they actually want this plan to work, so we'll have to see what happens. work, so we'll have to see what ha ens. ,., work, so we'll have to see what hauens. , ., , happens. ok, the same story in the front -a~e
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of the daily mail, rachel watson, and it does look like the courts will be overwhelmed with these 31 appeals because it is 31 on this first flight expected on tuesday. yes, as was touched on there, you know. _ yes, as was touched on there, you know. this — yes, as was touched on there, you know, this should have been predicted. you know, this was never going _ predicted. you know, this was never going to _ predicted. you know, this was never going to be — predicted. you know, this was never going to be something that the government was easily going to be able to— government was easily going to be able to bring in and implement. i think— able to bring in and implement. i thinkwe— able to bring in and implement. i think we have seen that. there has been _ think we have seen that. there has been such— think we have seen that. there has been such an outpouring of outrage, as sienna _ been such an outpouring of outrage, as sienna rodgers said, though there has obviously been some support from some who _ has obviously been some support from some who see this as an issue of people _ some who see this as an issue of people coming over. tory mps are in support— people coming over. tory mps are in support of— people coming over. tory mps are in support of this. but there are campaigners, people on the ground, opposition— campaigners, people on the ground, opposition parties who have real concerns— opposition parties who have real concerns about the human rights aspects — concerns about the human rights aspects of — concerns about the human rights aspects of this and there were always— aspects of this and there were always going to be legal challenges, ithink— always going to be legal challenges, i think that would have been packed in with— i think that would have been packed in with the _ i think that would have been packed in with the government when they carried _ in with the government when they carried this — in with the government when they carried this out. you know, there is a really— carried this out. you know, there is a really strong feeling about this, whichever— a really strong feeling about this, whichever side you are on, and i think— whichever side you are on, and i think this — whichever side you are on, and i think this will... this week we will see it _ think this will... this week we will see it kind — think this will... this week we will see it kind of charge on again. we
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