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this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. final legal challenges by asylum seekers are being heard today before the first flight due to take migrants from the uk to rwanda as part of a new government policy. the flight will take off tonight. it's very important that we establish the principle of this route into rwanda. scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon is to launch a fresh campaign for independence. a lawful vote requires the approval of the uk government. fierce fighting continues in eastern ukraine in the battle for severodonetsk as ukraine's grip on the strategic city weakens. a record—breaking heatwave sweeps spain as temperatures hit 43 degrees celsius. we'll be live in madrid
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for the latest. and remembering the victims of grenfell — five years on from the grenfell tower fire in london where 72 people were killed, events are being held across the city. i'm victoria derbyshire, we are here throughout the day talking to people deeply affected by the events of that night and what has happened since. hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. the first flight taking asylum seekers to rwanda will leave from an undisclosed location in the uk this evening, after campaigners lost a court battle to prevent it.
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they had hoped to stop the plane taking off before a full hearing next month on whether the policy is lawful. dozens of asylum seekers were originally due to be on the flight, but most won appeals against deportation. it's not know how many people will be on tonight's flight, but it's thought to be about seven or eight people, and some of those have hearings today to determine whether they will be on board. the cost of chartering the boeing 767 is estimated at about half a million pounds. the government says the deportation flights are necessary to combat human trafficking gangs and deter dangerous channel crossings. opposition to the scheme has continued. the entire senior leadership of the church of england has protested in a letter published in the times. they say, "many are desperate people fleeing unspeakable horrors," and the letter goes on to add, "this immoral policy shames britain." the bbc�*s vincent mcaviney reports.
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despite the government's publicity around its new policy, yesterday 37 asylum seekers arrived on the kent coast. but they could face potential removal to rwanda, because they've travelled from france, a safe country. this is the boeing 767 chartered by the home office to take the first group of asylum seekers on a one way ticket to rwanda later today. the plane can carry around 200 on the 4,095 mile journey, but only eight asylum seekers will be aboard, three of whom are in court in the next few hours, arguing to be removed from the flight. home secretary priti patel has long argued the policy is in the public interest, designed to deter unnecessaryjourneys from safe eu countries and thwart the criminal gangs charging for dangerous channel crossings. shame on you! the policy is, though, dividing public opinion, evidenced by these scenes outside the courts ofjustice yesterday, and the home office. some agree it's an effective way to deal with illegal migration. but for others, it's an unsafe
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and unlawful way to treat vulnerable people who are asking for sanctuary in the uk. the leaders of the church of england, including the archbishops of canterbury and york, have written an open letter, decrying it as an "immoral policy that shames britain." this isn't about rwanda. we'd take exactly the same view if britain was seeking to outsource its care for refugees, for asylum seekers, to any other third country. this is about people who have the right — a right established since the 1951 convention — to seek asylum in the uk, and to have their asylum case processed and determined here. the policy is also attracting international attention. at the united nations in geneva yesterday, it was described as catastrophic. this is all wrong. this is all wrong, this deal, for so many different reasons. but the man who used to be in charge of britain's borders believes something has to be done to stop the ever increasing numbers
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being exploited by traffickers. there's 80 million refugees around the world. according to unhcr, even more now, after ukrainians seeking resettlement in the western world. and i think there is an upper limit actually, to the number that any country can take. in the rwandan capital, kigali, final preparations are under way at accommodation for those who do board this first flight. the uk government says the arrangement is a model the rest of the world could follow. but with further legal challenges in the coming weeks, there's a chance those relocated here might be given a return ticket to the united kingdom. vincent mcaviney, bbc news. dover has been one of the main points where migrants have entered the uk in recent years. more than 28,500 arrived on british shores in 2021 — often risking their lives. we've been speaking to local people about their views on the rwanda policy. i think it's a good idea, because we've had too many over here. absolutely dreadful idea.
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he exhales heavily. i can see the point of it- from stopping people coming across in small boats, _ but if there is no way out for them from rwanda i've got very mixed feelings about it. . it's all down to whether we've got the room. i mean, if we ran out of room then there is no other option to send them somewhere else. personally i find it somewhat ridiculous because the entire concept of it just doesn't function. our political correspondent nick eardley has the latest from westminster. the home office was preparing for seven people to be on that flight to rwanda later today, but there are individual legal challenges which are taking place and my sources in governmentjust are not sure where that is going to end by the time that flight takes off. one person i was speaking to did concede that it was possible that the flight ends up with nobody on it by the end of the day,
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because of those legal challenges. but when we heard the foreign secretary, liz truss, on bbc breakfast a couple of hours ago, she was adamant that the flight would take off. have a listen. the flight will take off tonight, it is very important that we establish the principle of this route into rwanda, it is a key part of our strategy for tackling the appalling people smugglers who are trading in people's hopes and dreams and in many cases costing their lives, and this is why it is vitally important that we press forward with this policy. if people are not on the flight today, they will be on subsequent flights. obviously, this policy has been hugely controversial, hugely divisive. there are some people who are completely against it, like the bishops, they say it is immoral, opposition parties are saying that they do not support the approach either.
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i think we have got an impression from the foreign secretary there that the government is not going to let this one go and even if some of those appeals today or even all of those appeals today are successful, the government does think that this is a key part of its strategy to tackle people smuggling, to stop small boats travelling over the channel, so i would expect, whatever happens today, the government to keep pursuing this, one, because it thinks it is a good part of the answer, two, because they think it is popular and the people will support a crackdown. nick eardley. i have spoken before with anne soy, deputy africa editor, on how the process will be when the migrants arrive in rwanda. as soon as they arrive here, they are handed over to the rwandan government, so the government assumes full responsibility for them. they will be taken to a hotel which is one of the accommodation facilities that has been set aside for this programme.
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—— they will be taken to the hope hostel. there is also a hotel and a residence where they have bungalows with three or four bedrooms, so the first location is the hope hostel, they have shared facilities, bathrooms and the rooms are shared. it is freshly painted, the government says it is ready to host the asylum seekers. there has not been much of a debate, as much as there has been in the uk here in rwanda, not many people are critical of that. however, one of the opposition leaders has voiced her concerns and has had some criticism and said that the government would rather focus on solving the many problems that the citizens of this country face rather than trying to deal with problems from far away. and what has the rwandan government said to try and address any of those questions about rights record? —— its human rights record?
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i spoke to the government spokesperson who defended the rwandan government against those accusations, saying there is nothing wrong, nothing wrong with the rwandan human rights records, i put it to her some of the cases that have been pointed out by critics and she said it is not perfect, but it is work in progress. some of the criticisms even came from the uk government last year, before this deal, raising concern about the lack of freedom, the lack of media freedom here, and she said that that is a work in progress in the country, the asylum seekers, once they come here, they will be free, as free as any rwandan. anne soy include girly. some news on migrant crossings from my colleague simonjones, who says the latest figures for monday, 138 migrants in three boats reach the uk on monday
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—— anne soy in kigali. 10,236 is the total for this —— anne soy in kigali. 10,236 is the totalfor this year. the french authorities say 200 people were taken back to northern france after their boat got into difficulty yesterday. —— over 200 people were. the eu is expected to launch legal action against the uk government this week over its decision to scrap some post—brexit trade arrangements. ministers want to stop some of the checks on goods travelling from great britain to northern ireland, saying they want to avoid harm to the peace process. they published a parliamentary bill on monday aimed at overriding parts of the deal signed with the eu in 2020. but brussels says going back on the arrangement breaks international law. the foreign secretary, liz truss, explained why ministers wanted to change the protocol. the problem with the arrangements at the moment in the northern ireland protocol is that they are undermining the belfast good friday agreement and the balance between the communities in northern ireland. because whilst we've seen north—south relationships and trade protected, because of the customs
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bureaucracy east—west, we've seen fewer goods coming to northern ireland, we've seen them come in at a higher cost and we've also seen companies from great britain not trading. it is also the case that the people of northern ireland are not able to benefit from the same tax benefits as people in great britain. so, for example, at the spring statement when the chancellor announced there would be a reduction in vat on solar panels, we weren't able to pass that reduction on to people in northern ireland. so there are real problems in northern ireland, people feeling more disconnected to the united kingdom. so what we are doing through the northern ireland protocol bill is making that east—west trade easier through the green channel, and we are also restoring the tax rules so they are now set by the uk government. the irish foreign minister simon coveney said the plans marked a "new low" for british—irish relations, and broke international law.
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i think this is not consistent with international law and the british government's obligations under international law, and i think that will be shown in time, but it is really a new low in british—irish relations. now the british government is making the case that they are forced into passing domestic legislation to disapply international law, effectively to dismantle the northern ireland protocol, which is part of the brexit withdrawal treaty, because negotiations are going nowhere. scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon will begin a new campaign for independence today. she'll argue that the country is being held back by the united kingdom, compared with other similar—sized economies in europe. ms sturgeon wants to hold a second referendum next year, but a lawful vote requires the approval of the uk government. nobody right now can look at the uk, the mess it's in currently, and the prospects for the uk outside the european union, surely, and conclude anything but that scotland can do better
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as an independent country? in fact, had we known in 2014, everything we know now about the path the uk would have taken in the years since, then i'm in no doubt scotland would have voted yes back then. earlier we heard more on this from our scotland correspondent james shaw, who is in edinburgh. injust over one hour in just over one hour nicola sturgeon will be here at her official residence, bute house in the centre of edinburgh, with the leader of the scottish greens patrick harvie. because this is a coalition of parties in favour of independence, including the snp and the scottish greens. today is the start of a series of papers which will mark the formal launch of a push for a second independence referendum, as you say, before the end of next year. this paper today is about the economy, comparing the
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economies of independent european countries with scotland's economy as part of the uk, essentially making the argument that scotland underperforms, if it was an independent country it would be more successful economically. that case will be made today. and a series of other papers on things like currency, what money and independent scotland would have, taxation, spending, defence and other things. apps are most important issue in the near term is how to get an independence referendum —— perhaps the most important issue. the uk government has made very clear it will not alaba to happen and it requires the authorisation of the uk government for the scottish parliament to legislate —— data very clear it will not allow it to happen. nicola sturgeon patrick harvie have to negotiate their way around that over the next few months if there was any chance for them to hold a referendum when they say they want to have it.
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the headlines on bbc news... final legal challanges by asylum seekers are being heard today before the first flight due to take migrants from the uk to rwanda. scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon is to launch a fresh campaign for independence, saying she'll unveil a series of papers to make a new case. fierce fighting continues in eastern ukraine in the battle for severodonetsk as ukraine's grip on the strategic city weakens. let's get more on that story. ukraine's eastern city of severodonetsk is now completely cut off from the rest of the country, after all three bridges were destroyed by russian forces. heavy fighting has been taking place there for weeks. thousands of civilians and ukrainian troops are now trapped in the city. russia is also bombarding the neighbouring city of lysychansk — from which civilians
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are still trying to flee. from the ukrainian capital kyiv here'sjoe inwood. now, this old industrial city of severodonetsk has been the focus of the russian invasion for weeks now. they have been pushing the ukrainians further and further back into an ever decreasing pocket of the city, into the industrial zone, a chemical plant where not only ukrainian fighters, but many civilians are as well. the ukrainians say they are resisting, they are fighting street by street for every square metre, but it is a fight that is are not necessarily going their way. the big development now is the destruction of a final bridge which connects severodonetsk to lysychansk and the donbas and the rest of the ukrainian forces. the destruction of the bridge means it is going to be almost impossible for people to get out and supplies to get in. now, that matters because the russian seem to be trying to replicate what they did in the southern port city of mariupol, to create a siege, to starve out the defenders of the city. now, it is not necessarily all over
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for the ukrainians yet, they still have supplies, they are still resisting, but it is looking increasingly difficult. it is also because this is an artillery battle, the russians just have a decisive advantage in terms of numbers, in terms of ammunition. the ukrainians say they need more supplies. those supplies are promised by the west, by the us, by the nato powers, but they are not getting hit fast enough, the ukrainians say. —— they are not getting here fast enough. if they can get them into the fight, then they possibly could turn the tide of this battle for severodonetsk, but there is no guarantee that is going to happen and at the moment the ukrainians looked to be in a very difficult position. joe inwood. today marks five years since the fire at grenfell tower in west london, one of the uk's worst modern disasters. 72 people lost their lives. today, relatives of those who died, and survivors, will hold a service to remember their loved ones. victoria derbyshire reported on the disaster five years ago and is in west london this morning. and we will be talking to people throughout the day here at
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gronefeld, people affected by what happened, and also asking what has changed since we learned of the public inquiry that the cladding put around the teller as part of a previous refurbishment contain plastic that was highly flammable —— we will be talking to people throughout the day here at grenfell tower. the company knew it was highly flammable ten years before the grenfell fire that continued selling it. they were warned that 5000 square metres of that cutting would have the same firepower as a massive trick of oil on fire. that cladding and other failings led to the flames spreading swiftly and fatally around all four corners of the tower. here's how the events of that night unfolded. ? the film contains footage of the tower on that night, which you may find upsetting. just before 1am onjune1lith, 2017, a devastating fire broke out
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in the kitchen of a flat on the fourth floor of g re nfell tower. fire brigade. yeah. hello. there is a fire on flat 16, grenfell tower. how many floors have you got? it is the fourth floor. quick, quick! within minutes, it began to spread up the cladding on the outside of the 23 storey block. are you 0k? some residents were told to stay in their flats by the emergency services. others ignored the stay put advice and made it down the stairs to safety. i spoke to some of them hours after they'd escaped. this was really horrific. there's people who were jumping. there's a man who threw two of his children. we saw a lot. we saw a lot, man. we saw a lot with our own eyes.
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we saw friends, familes. honestly, it's all right. you don't have to say any any more. i'm so sorry. the final death toll is now recorded as 72. the youngest victim was six months old. the oldest, 8a. baby logan gomez, who was stillborn in hospital onjune 1ath, the morning after the fire, is also included. good morning, everybody. a public inquiry into the disaster is under way. phase one found that a previous refurbishment of the tower breached building regulations. it heard evidence that plastic material in the cladding was the main reason the flames spread. ring 999! will there be prosecutions? the metropolitan police
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is looking into offences including manslaughter, corporate manslaughter, misconduct in public office, and breaches of fire safety regulations, but will wait until the public inquiry ends before passing any evidence to prosecutors. for relatives of those who died, for survivors, many say they are still waiting forjustice, five years on. i wanted to tell you a little more about the oldest victim. sheila smith was 84 and had lived in the tower for 3h years on the 16th floor. her family described her as an active member of the community. "sheila was cycling around london, performing yoga daily and swimming regularly in the kensington leisure centre until she was 80 years old," they said. sheila had two sons, six grandchildren and three great—grandchildren. the youngest victim of the fire
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was baby logan gomes. logan was stillborn in hospital hours after his parents escaped from the 21st floor. he was later recorded by police as a victim. he was actually due on 21 august and his parents and two sisters were really excited about his imminent arrival. his father marcio said logan was going to be his "gaming buddy". i'm joined by three community activists from the grenfell area. who are you thinking about? every da i hold who are you thinking about? every day i hold in _ who are you thinking about? every day i hold in my — who are you thinking about? every day i hold in my heart _ who are you thinking about? er day i hold in my heart everybody, but on the anniversary it would be a little girl i looked after in the nursery for two years.-
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little girl i looked after in the nursery for two years. knee? -- lee? i think very _ nursery for two years. knee? -- lee? i think very much — nursery for two years. knee? -- lee? i think very much of _ nursery for two years. knee? -- lee? i think very much of the _ nursery for two years. knee? -- lee? i think very much of the bereaved - i think very much of the bereaved and the _ i think very much of the bereaved and the survivors and how hard it is for them _ and the survivors and how hard it is for them to— and the survivors and how hard it is for them to be reminded every year that we _ for them to be reminded every year that we have come so far, but on behalf_ that we have come so far, but on behalf of— that we have come so far, but on behalf of my daughter i always hold one particular family in my heart, and my— one particular family in my heart, and my neighbours who happened to be the parents _ and my neighbours who happened to be the parents of logan, i always hold that deep— the parents of logan, i always hold that deep in my heart. like the parents of logan, i always hold that deep in my heart.— the parents of logan, i always hold that deep in my heart. like lee and sue, i think — that deep in my heart. like lee and sue, i think we _ that deep in my heart. like lee and sue, i think we hold _ that deep in my heart. like lee and sue, i think we hold all— that deep in my heart. like lee and sue, i think we hold all72, - that deep in my heart. like lee andj sue, i think we hold all72, because sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were _ sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were so — sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were so varied, _ sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were so varied, we _ sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were so varied, we knew- sue, i think we hold all 72, because they were so varied, we knew themj sue, i think we hold all 72, because . they were so varied, we knew them in different— they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, — they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, but _ they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, but for _ they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, but for me _ they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, but for me i— they were so varied, we knew them in different ways, but for me i think - different ways, but for me i think one particular— different ways, but for me i think one particular family, _ different ways, but for me i think one particularfamily, nadia - different ways, but for me i think i one particular family, nadia worked in education. — one particular family, nadia worked in education, so _ one particular family, nadia worked in education, so did _ one particular family, nadia worked in education, so did i— one particular family, nadia worked in education, so did i we _ one particular family, nadia worked in education, so did i we bumped . in education, so did i we bumped into each— in education, so did i we bumped into each other— in education, so did i we bumped into each other at _ in education, so did i we bumped into each other at training - in education, so did i we bumpedl into each other at training courses and various— into each other at training courses and various things _ into each other at training courses and various things like _ into each other at training courses
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'ust everybody, but many are only may be just coming _ everybody, but many are only may be just coming to terms with everything and starting to grieve, i think a of people _ and starting to grieve, i think a of people grieved initially butjust -ot people grieved initially butjust got on — people grieved initially butjust got on because that was their way of coping, _ got on because that was their way of coping, hut— got on because that was their way of coping, but i think it's being five years. _ coping, but i think it's being five years, somehow it feels just as painful— years, somehow it feels just as painful as — years, somehow it feels just as painful as year one when it first happened, sol painful as year one when it first happened, so i think there is a lot of raw— happened, so i think there is a lot of raw emotion, you heard some of it 'ust of raw emotion, you heard some of it just a _ of raw emotion, you heard some of it just a moment to go. people are very sensitive _ just a moment to go. people are very sensitive and — just a moment to go. people are very sensitive and it is stepping carefully but making sure we look out for _ carefully but making sure we look out for one — carefully but making sure we look out for one another. i carefully but making sure we look out for one another.— out for one another. i think lee is riiht, out for one another. i think lee is right. but — out for one another. i think lee is right. but i _ out for one another. i think lee is right. but i also — out for one another. i think lee is right, but i also think _ out for one another. i think lee is right, but i also think that - out for one another. i think lee is right, but i also think that this - right, but i also think that this year. — right, but i also think that this year. the _ right, but i also think that this year, the fifth _ right, but i also think that this year, the fifth year, _ right, but i also think that this year, the fifth year, i- right, but i also think that this year, the fifth year, ithink- right, but i also think that this - year, the fifth year, i think people have _ year, the fifth year, i think people have accepted, _ year, the fifth year, i think people have accepted, because _ year, the fifth year, i think people have accepted, because we - year, the fifth year, i think people have accepted, because we have i year, the fifth year, i think people i have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks _ have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks of — have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks ofan— have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks of an inquiry, _ have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks of an inquiry, that - have accepted, because we have had 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the - 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts _ 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts are — 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts are laid _ 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts are laid bare _ 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts are laid bare and - 79 weeks of an inquiry, that the facts are laid bare and actually. facts are laid bare and actually why. _ facts are laid bare and actually why. why _ facts are laid bare and actually why. why did _ facts are laid bare and actually why, why did this _ facts are laid bare and actually why, why did this happen- facts are laid bare and actually why, why did this happen i- facts are laid bare and actually. why, why did this happen i think facts are laid bare and actually- why, why did this happen i think it is plain— why, why did this happen i think it is plain to —
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why, why did this happen i think it is plain to people _ why, why did this happen i think it is plain to people. so _ why, why did this happen i think it is plain to people. so what - why, why did this happen i think it is plain to people. so what they. why, why did this happen i think it. is plain to people. so what they are experiencing — is plain to people. so what they are experiencing is— is plain to people. so what they are experiencing is the _ is plain to people. so what they are experiencing is the pain _ is plain to people. so what they are experiencing is the pain of- is plain to people. so what they are experiencing is the pain of loss, - experiencing is the pain of loss, especially— experiencing is the pain of loss, especially the _ experiencing is the pain of loss, especially the pain _ experiencing is the pain of loss, especially the pain of— experiencing is the pain of loss, especially the pain of loss - experiencing is the pain of loss, especially the pain of loss in - experiencing is the pain of loss, | especially the pain of loss in the politics— especially the pain of loss in the politics of— especially the pain of loss in the politics of the _ especially the pain of loss in the politics of the level _ especially the pain of loss in the politics of the level of _ especially the pain of loss in the politics of the level of crooks - politics of the level of crooks turned — politics of the level of crooks turned killers _ politics of the level of crooks turned killers in— politics of the level of crooks turned killers in the - politics of the level of crooks turned killers in the contextl politics of the level of crooks i turned killers in the context of politics of the level of crooks - turned killers in the context of the merry-go-round _ turned killers in the context of the merry—go—round of— turned killers in the context of the merry—go—round of buckpassing, i turned killers in the context of the i merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote _ merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one _ merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of— merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of the _ merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of the qcs, _ merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of the qcs, so— merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of the qcs, so i- merry—go—round of buckpassing, to quote one of the qcs, so i think- quote one of the qcs, so i think that is— quote one of the qcs, so i think that is really— quote one of the qcs, so i think that is really painful— quote one of the qcs, so i think that is really painful because . quote one of the qcs, so i think that is really painful because iti quote one of the qcs, so i thinkl that is really painful because it is this huge — that is really painful because it is this huge loss. _ that is really painful because it is this huge loss, but _ that is really painful because it is this huge loss, but in _ that is really painful because it is this huge loss, but in that- that is really painful because it isl this huge loss, but in that context of injustice — this huge loss, but in that context of injustice do _ this huge loss, but in that context of injustice-— this huge loss, but in that context of injustice. of in'ustice. do you have faith that the of injustice. do you have faith that the inquiry--- _ of injustice. do you have faith that the inquiry... some _ of injustice. do you have faith that the inquiry... some shocking - of injustice. do you have faith that l the inquiry... some shocking things have already emerged, really shocking like the makers of the classic new ten years before that it was flammable and did not withdraw from sale because of cost implications, ie they would lose money, do you have faith that the inquiry will get to the full truth? maybe it will, but i don't think action will be taken when the truth is revealed. action will be taken when the truth is revealed-—
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is revealed. why do you say that? the government _ is revealed. why do you say that? the government has _ is revealed. why do you say that? the government has not - is revealed. why do you say that? the government has not taken . is revealed. why do you say that? l the government has not taken any action so far, i have no hope they will in the future. they are too invested financially in these companies, i do not think it will happen. i companies, i do not think it will ha en. . companies, i do not think it will hauen. . , companies, i do not think it will ha en. . , ., companies, i do not think it will hauen. ., , ., , happen. i am duty-bound to say they have bad combustible _ happen. i am duty-bound to say they have bad combustible cladding - happen. i am duty-bound to say they have bad combustible cladding and l have bad combustible cladding and introduced just last week at parliament social housing regulations —— a social housing regulations —— a social housing regulation bill. in terms of the phase one recommendations the fire brigade has done most of them and all the rest, the government say, will be done by next year. but that is the lfp, — will be done by next year. but that is the lfp, all— will be done by next year. but that is the lfp, all the _ will be done by next year. but that is the lfp, all the criticisms - will be done by next year. but that is the lfp, all the criticisms we - is the lfp, all the criticisms we have _ is the lfp, all the criticisms we have had — is the lfp, all the criticisms we have had about _ is the lfp, all the criticisms we have had about the _ is the lfp, all the criticisms we have had about the failings - is the lfp, all the criticisms we have had about the failings onl is the lfp, all the criticisms we i have had about the failings on the night, _ have had about the failings on the night, the — have had about the failings on the night, the london _ have had about the failings on the night, the london fire _ have had about the failings on the night, the london fire brigade, i have had about the failings on the . night, the london fire brigade, they stepped _ night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up — night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. -- — night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. -- hut— night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. —— but that _ night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. —— but that is _ night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. —— but that is the - night, the london fire brigade, they stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. i stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are _ stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are talking _ stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are talking about _ stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are talking about the _ stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are talking about the role - stepped up. —— but that is the lfb. we are talking about the role of. we are talking about the role of government, _ we are talking about the role of government, because - we are talking about the role of. government, because deregulation we are talking about the role of- government, because deregulation is at the _ government, because deregulation is at the heart. — government, because deregulation is at the heart, aside _ government, because deregulation is at the heart, aside from _ government, because deregulation is at the heart, aside from all— government, because deregulation is at the heart, aside from all the - at the heart, aside from all the other— at the heart, aside from all the other things. _ at the heart, aside from all the other things, of— at the heart, aside from all the other things, of this. _ at the heart, aside from all the other things, of this. what - at the heart, aside from all the other things, of this. what has| at the heart, aside from all the - other things, of this. what has the government— other things, of this. what has the government done? _ other things, of this. what has the government done? it— other things, of this. what has the government done? it has- other things, of this. what has the
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government done? it has plannedl government done? it has planned cladding _ government done? it has planned cladding hut— government done? it has planned cladding but not— government done? it has planned cladding but not retrospective, . cladding but not retrospective, because — cladding but not retrospective, because there _ cladding but not retrospective, because there are _ cladding but not retrospective, because there are implicationsj cladding but not retrospective, i because there are implications for the developers _ because there are implications for the developers and _ because there are implications for the developers and those - because there are implications for the developers and those people, | the developers and those people, thousands— the developers and those people, thousands of— the developers and those people, thousands of them _ the developers and those people, thousands of them across - the developers and those people, thousands of them across the - thousands of them across the country. _ thousands of them across the country. who— thousands of them across the country, who are _ thousands of them across the country, who are living - thousands of them across the country, who are living in- thousands of them across the - country, who are living in buildings that are _ country, who are living in buildings that are unsafe _ country, who are living in buildings that are unsafe because _ country, who are living in buildings that are unsafe because of- country, who are living in buildings| that are unsafe because of cladding or iack— that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of— that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of fire — that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of fire breaks _ that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of fire breaks and _ that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of fire breaks and a - that are unsafe because of cladding or lack of fire breaks and a range i or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire _ or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire safety— or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire safety -- _ or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire safety —— it _ or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire safety —— it has _ or lack of fire breaks and a range of fire safety —— it has banned i of fire safety —— it has banned cladding. _ of fire safety —— it has banned cladding. hut— of fire safety —— it has banned cladding, but not— of fire safety —— it has banned l cladding, but not retrospective. of fire safety —— it has banned - cladding, but not retrospective. the developers — cladding, but not retrospective. the developers would _ cladding, but not retrospective. the developers would have _ cladding, but not retrospective. the developers would have banned - developers would have banned materials— developers would have banned materials on _ developers would have banned materials on the _ developers would have banned materials on the building, - developers would have banned materials on the building, so l developers would have banned . materials on the building, so the government— materials on the building, so the government wants _ materials on the building, so the government wants to _ materials on the building, so the government wants to protect, i materials on the building, so the - government wants to protect, again, that developers — government wants to protect, again, that developers rather— government wants to protect, again, that developers rather than - government wants to protect, again, that developers rather than actually. that developers rather than actually human— that developers rather than actually human beings _ that developers rather than actually human beings. the?— that developers rather than actually human beings-— human beings. they might say they have come to _ human beings. they might say they have come to a _ human beings. they might say they have come to a deal _ human beings. they might say they have come to a deal with _ human beings. they might say they have come to a deal with over - human beings. they might say they have come to a deal with over 40 i have come to a deal with over a0 developers to come up with e5 developers to come up with £5 billion to pay for the removal of dangerous cladding.— billion to pay for the removal of dangerous cladding. there are 111 tower lalocks _ dangerous cladding. there are 111 tower blocks in _ dangerous cladding. there are 111 tower blocks in the _ dangerous cladding. there are 111 tower blocks in the uk _ dangerous cladding. there are 111 tower blocks in the uk still - dangerous cladding. there are 111 l tower blocks in the uk still covered in this— tower blocks in the uk still covered in this same cladding, and a second microsurgery goes beyond the cladding, it is not having fire safety — cladding, it is not having fire safety doors, fire breaks, so much
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more _ safety doors, fire breaks, so much more. grenfell has unveiled this massive — more. grenfell has unveiled this massive picture but your question directed _ massive picture but your question directed at— massive picture but your question directed at sue, i don't trust the government will implement anything because _ government will implement anything because they have already slapped us in the _ because they have already slapped us in the face _ because they have already slapped us in the face with the phase one recommendations for personal evacuation plans for disabled people _ evacuation plans for disabled people. gove was here recently talking — people. gove was here recently talking to — people. gove was here recently talking to the community, there was a day— talking to the community, there was a day where — talking to the community, there was a day where we could question him. he is— a day where we could question him. he is the _ a day where we could question him. he is the housing secretary. | a day where we could question him. he is the housing secretary. i put that question _ he is the housing secretary. i put that question to _ he is the housing secretary. i put that question to him _ he is the housing secretary. i put that question to him and - he is the housing secretary. i put that question to him and he said we will ask— that question to him and he said we will ask landlords that it is their responsibility, i said if you do not legislate — responsibility, i said if you do not legislate they do not have to follow and that _ legislate they do not have to follow and that is — legislate they do not have to follow and that is why grenfell happened. the onus _ and that is why grenfell happened. the onus is — and that is why grenfell happened. the onus is on them that you are not making _ the onus is on them that you are not making it _ the onus is on them that you are not making it law, they know they can -et making it law, they know they can get away — making it law, they know they can get away without giving it. also the in . ui onl get away without giving it. also the inquiry only proposes _ inquiry only proposes recommendations, . inquiry only proposes recommendations, it| inquiry only proposes - recommendations, it does not inquiry only proposes _ recommendations, it does not mandate and so _ recommendations, it does not mandate and so the _ recommendations, it does not mandate and so the government _ recommendations, it does not mandate and so the government will— recommendations, it does not mandate and so the government will take - recommendations, it does not mandate and so the government will take and i and so the government will take and choose _ and so the government will take and choose which — and so the government will take and choose which ones _ and so the government will take and choose which ones they _ and so the government will take and choose which ones they chooses, - choose which ones they chooses, which _
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choose which ones they chooses, which what — choose which ones they chooses, which what it _ choose which ones they chooses, which what it chooses _ choose which ones they chooses, which what it chooses to - choose which ones they chooses, - which what it chooses to implement. boris _ which what it chooses to implement. borisjohnson — which what it chooses to implement. boris johnson as _ which what it chooses to implement. boris johnson as prime _ which what it chooses to implement. borisjohnson as prime minister- which what it chooses to implement. borisjohnson as prime minister in. borisjohnson as prime minister in june 2020 schedule phase one recommendations will be implemented. but do we believe him? fine recommendations will be implemented. but do we believe him?— but do we believe him? one has been re'ected, but do we believe him? one has been rejected. they — but do we believe him? one has been rejected. they say _ but do we believe him? one has been rejected. they say a — but do we believe him? one has been rejected, they say a personal- rejected, they say a personal evacuation plan for people with disabilities would not be proportionate or fair. disabilities would not be proportionate orfair. and disabilities would not be proportionate or fair. and his response _ proportionate or fair. and his response was _ proportionate or fair. and his response was really - proportionate or fair. and his | response was really shocking, proportionate or fair. and his l response was really shocking, i proportionate or fair. and his - response was really shocking, i was sat next to somebody i know rare response was really shocking, i was sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you _ sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you to _ sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you to and _ sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you to and we _ sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you to and we will- sat next to somebody i know we have introduced you to and we will speak l introduced you to and we will speak to her— introduced you to and we will speak to her later, — introduced you to and we will speak to her later, a disabled person who thankfully— to her later, a disabled person who thankfully came out in the first hour— thankfully came out in the first hour and — thankfully came out in the first hour and i— thankfully came out in the first hourand i said thankfully came out in the first hour and i said to him, thankfully came out in the first hourand i said to him, i'm thankfully came out in the first hour and i said to him, i'm sitting next— hour and i said to him, i'm sitting next to— hour and i said to him, i'm sitting next toa— hour and i said to him, i'm sitting next to a disabled survivor who got out within — next to a disabled survivor who got out within the first hour via the lifts that — out within the first hour via the lifts that were still working, had she not— lifts that were still working, had she not done that she would not be such beside me. by denying this you are basically saying lives are expendable, disabled people are worthless and their lives are expendable. how can you justify that? _ expendable. how can you justify that? i_ expendable. how can you justify that? i got no response.
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we have to do this in schools, we are all nursery teachers and you have to do for any disabled child, you might have one with autism or one that is wheelchair bound or one with mobility issues, all different types, you might have won with hearing problems, they all need individual plans, because you cannot just expect that children with different special needs are going to be able to get out. you have to do individual plans, it is our responsibility to make sure if there is a fire in the building we get them out safely and we assign people to those children. i them out safely and we assign people to those children.— to those children. i want to ask you all, let to those children. i want to ask you all. let me — to those children. i want to ask you all, let me begin _ to those children. i want to ask you all, let me begin with _ to those children. i want to ask you all, let me begin with you - to those children. i want to ask you all, let me begin with you more - to those children. i want to ask you all, let me begin with you more in, | all, let me begin with you more in, what do you think should happen with the tower? i what do you think should happen with the tower? ~ ., ., the tower? i think, at the end of the tower? i think, at the end of the da , the tower? i think, at the end of the day. i _ the tower? i think, at the end of the day. i am — the tower? i think, at the end of the day. i am a _ the tower? i think, at the end of the day, i am a resident, - the tower? i think, at the end of the day, i am a resident, and i the tower? i think, at the end of| the day, i am a resident, and the decision— the day, i am a resident, and the decision will— the day, i am a resident, and the decision will not be nine to make,
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even _ decision will not be nine to make, even though i have put forward my views, _ even though i have put forward my views, because for a number of reasons, — views, because for a number of reasons, i— views, because for a number of reasons, i think we all probably agree _ reasons, i think we all probably agree one — reasons, i think we all probably agree one way or another, the tower is a cemetery, you know, and we will find that— is a cemetery, you know, and we will find that out — is a cemetery, you know, and we will find that out when the inquiry closes — find that out when the inquiry closes and they go on to the inquest _ closes and they go on to the inquest. however, it is symbolic in all sorts— inquest. however, it is symbolic in all sorts of— inquest. however, it is symbolic in all sorts of ways, for some people it is symbolic of pain, for others it is symbolic of pain, for others it is symbolic of pain, for others it is a _ it is symbolic of pain, for others it is a symbol of injustice and it should — it is a symbol of injustice and it should say, but those who believe it is a symbol — should say, but those who believe it is a symbol of pain, they want it removed — is a symbol of pain, they want it removed i— is a symbol of pain, they want it removed. i think it is going to be quite _ removed. i think it is going to be quite tricky — removed. i think it is going to be quite tricky to come to a decision but that— quite tricky to come to a decision but that decision has to be made by the bereaved survivors at the residence _ the bereaved survivors at the residence of this community are not the state _ residence of this community are not the state. ' :: :: ' residence of this community are not the state.- what _ residence of this community are not the state.- what is _ residence of this community are not the state.- what is your - residence of this community are not the state. 10096. what is your view? the state. 100%. what is your view? i know the state. 10096. what is your view? i know what — the state. 10096. what is your view? i know what i _ the state. 10096. what is your view? i know what i would _ the state. 10096. what is your view? i know what i would like _ the state. 10096. what is your view? i know what i would like to - the state. 10096. what is your view?
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i know what i would like to say,... i i know what i would like to say,... for me, i would like some sort of garden, i want running water, i want a playground, iwant garden, i want running water, i want a playground, i want to hear children's voices and know that the future is maybe brighter than it is at the moment. i also want some sort of museum there that would capture everything that has been produced by different artists, by local community members. aha, different artists, by local community members. different artists, by local communi members. �* . ., community members. a little bit of the history. — community members. a little bit of the history. at— community members. a little bit of the history, at the _ community members. a little bit of the history, at the moment - community members. a little bit of the history, at the moment we - community members. a little bit of the history, at the moment we talkj the history, at the moment we talk about— the history, at the moment we talk about the _ the history, at the moment we talk about the 72, those 72 were individual— about the 72, those 72 were individual people, with the individual people, with the individual dreams, hopes... that is why talking — individual dreams, hopes... that is why talking about _ individual dreams, hopes... that is why talking about some _ individual dreams, hopes... that is why talking about some of - individual dreams, hopes... that is why talking about some of them i individual dreams, hopes... that is i why talking about some of them each time... we why talking about some of them each time... ~ ., , ., ., time... we want people to get to know them _ time... we want people to get to know them as — time... we want people to get to know them as we _ time... we want people to get to know them as we knew _ time... we want people to get to know them as we knew them, . time... we want people to get to | know them as we knew them, the people _ know them as we knew them, the people that — know them as we knew them, the people that they— know them as we knew them, the people that they were. _ know them as we knew them, the people that they were. not - know them as we knew them, the people that they were. not just i know them as we knew them, the i people that they were. not just one of the _ people that they were. not just one of the 72_ people that they were. not just one of the 72 who — people that they were. not just one of the 72 who died _ people that they were. not just one of the 72 who died at _ people that they were. not just one of the 72 who died at granville. - of the 72 who died at granville. maybe — of the 72 who died at granville. maybe like _ of the 72 who died at granville. maybe like the _ of the 72 who died at granville. maybe like the twin _ of the 72 who died at granville.
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maybe like the twin towers, i maybe like the twin towers, which will stand out, the one thing it marks right across london, especially when people are entering to go up to the city, coming across the aao, that tower stands there and there must be something in it's place that will signify that is where it took place. it has to, that social injustice has to stand as a prominent reminder.— social injustice has to stand as a prominent reminder. what would you sa ? m prominent reminder. what would you say? my focus _ prominent reminder. what would you say? my focus would _ prominent reminder. what would you say? my focus would be _ prominent reminder. what would you say? my focus would be somewhere. say? my focus would be somewhere nice, and i space _ say? my focus would be somewhere nice, and i space for _ say? my focus would be somewhere nice, and i space for the _ say? my focus would be somewhere nice, and i space for the children . nice, and i space for the children to be _ nice, and i space for the children to be able — nice, and i space for the children to be able to _ nice, and i space for the children to be able to go, _ nice, and i space for the children to be able to go, a _ nice, and i space for the children to be able to go, a place - nice, and i space for the children to be able to go, a place of- to be able to go, a place of reflection. _ to be able to go, a place of reflection. it— to be able to go, a place of reflection. it is— to be able to go, a place of reflection. it is not- to be able to go, a place of reflection. it is not our- to be able to go, a place of- reflection. it is not our decision. thank— reflection. it is not our decision. thank you — reflection. it is not our decision. thank you very _ reflection. it is not our decision. thank you very much, _ reflection. it is not our decision. thank you very much, all- reflection. it is not our decision. thank you very much, all of - reflection. it is not our decision. | thank you very much, all of you. tell us what you are doing today, how you are remembering people? i have got to work for the grant fell health— have got to work for the grant fell health and well—being service, i will be — health and well—being service, i will be on — health and well—being service, i will be on duty. we will be supporting different organisations across— supporting different organisations across the community and then i will
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be joining _ across the community and then i will bejoining in— across the community and then i will be joining in for the service later on. johnny— be joining in for the service later on. johnny my campaign colleagues. did you _ on. johnny my campaign colleagues. did you know each other before the fire? i did you know each other before the fire? ~' a, ,., , .,, did you know each other before the fire? ~' , .,, , fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when — fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when i _ fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when i did _ fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when i did my _ fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when i did my child - fire? i knew mariupol, she was my tutor when i did my child degree. . tutor when i did my child degree. since _ tutor when i did my child degree. since then, — tutor when i did my child degree. since then, we _ tutor when i did my child degree. since then, we have _ tutor when i did my child degree. since then, we have become - tutor when i did my child degree. . since then, we have become close friends. we were in the same places, that has happened a lot with everyone we met and pictures, i have got and lucy is on them. we have been around one another all this time, but you have your own circles. my time, but you have your own circles. my circle now is very much different. before we go, i want you to say something about this incredible community, we have talked before about the beating heart that
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emerged as you came together to look after each other, tell me about that we had several grassroots projects and there has been more sense, they are the heart and for me one of the main places that was of importance, was the henry dickinson state, they set up the art therapy, which now reaches over all the schools in north kensington, they have been working in westminster and hammersmith and fulham and chelsea and westminster hospital, they have been invaluable. then we had kids on the green, zoe hasjust been invaluable. then we had kids on the green, zoe has just arrived, wonderful, just picked up kids, scattered around and just pick them up scattered around and just pick them up and took them to the green and thatis up and took them to the green and that is how they started. they have done amazing work. this community has had a history _ done amazing work. this community has had a history of— done amazing work. this community has had a history of that, _ done amazing work. this community has had a history of that, we - done amazing work. this community has had a history of that, we have i done amazing work. this community
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has had a history of that, we have a| has had a history of that, we have a history— has had a history of that, we have a history of— has had a history of that, we have a history of coming _ has had a history of that, we have a history of coming together - has had a history of that, we have a history of coming together when . history of coming together when things— history of coming together when things are — history of coming together when things are not _ history of coming together when things are not right _ history of coming together when things are not right and - history of coming together when things are not right and making. history of coming together when - things are not right and making them right _ things are not right and making them right hie _ things are not right and making them rirht. ~ . things are not right and making them rirht. ~ , . ., right. we will be welcoming 2 million people _ right. we will be welcoming 2 million people on _ right. we will be welcoming 2 million people on the - right. we will be welcoming 2 | million people on the streets, right. we will be welcoming 2 l million people on the streets, 2 million. — million people on the streets, 2 million, some we know and some we do not, million, some we know and some we do not. and _ million, some we know and some we do not. and it— million, some we know and some we do not, and it takes a very special community— not, and it takes a very special community to be able to do that, to be able _ community to be able to do that, to be able to— community to be able to do that, to be able to open our doors and our streets. _ be able to open our doors and our streets, manage people, but welcome them, _ streets, manage people, but welcome them, and _ streets, manage people, but welcome them, and i_ streets, manage people, but welcome them, and i think that is what grenfell— them, and i think that is what grenfell helped us survive, especially through the tough times. we could _ especially through the tough times. we could pull on that history and we will continue to pull on that history— will continue to pull on that history that has come subsequently. thank— history that has come subsequently. thank you — history that has come subsequently. thank you. thank you for giving us your time. we will be talking to more people here at grenfell throughout the day here on bbc news. thank you very much, victoria. the family of a missing british journalist missing in the amazon has
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been speaking to the bbc, after conflicting reports about whether his body has been found. dom phillips went missing in a remote part of the rainforest more than a week ago, along with bruno pereira, an expert in brazil's indigenous people. our south america correspondent katy watson reports. deep in the amazon, the rivers act like roads. the wider tributaries are the highways, but it's in the shortcuts used by locals that the searches are also going on. bruno pereira and dom phillips still haven't been found, although on monday it was reported their bodies had been located. then, there was a swift denial by the federal police, saying that wasn't true. the indigenous peoples association, also searching for the two men, denied the news. we were told there'd been a misunderstanding. but i spoke to dom phillips' brother—in—law, who told me what he had learnt from the brazilian embassy in the uk. the guy who was leading that conversation was a guy called roberto doring, he said that two bodies had been found tied
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to a tree in, you know, in a part of the rainforest. there's no scope for... he was very confident that he had a reliable official source. in the region where they disappeared, the indigenous communities held a protest. "who killed bruno and dom?" this sign reads. people here wantjustice. the authorities are continuing to scour the area from the air and on the water. they confirmed that nothing more had been found. not far from the search area is the community of sao rafael. it was here that dom and bruno stopped off shortly before going missing. it's a village that lives by fishing, in a region where protected species are becoming increasingly valuable, and illegal fishing is on the rise. it's this line of inquiry that the authorities have been following, arresting a neighbour in a small hamletjust a few minutes from here. but resident moreno shuts down when i ask him about the suspect, amarildo da costa.
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"i don't know, i didn't see anything. i don't have any information," he tells me. the community here is frightened. this is a region so forgotten by the state, where people here are often left to their own devices, creating a lawlessness with devastating consequences. katy watson, bbc news. the uk's department for transport has announced it's scrapping a grant scheme to encourage people to buy electric cars. the plug in grant scheme, which was started in 2011, will be closed to new applicants from today — despite criticism from motoring associations which say the money is essential in helping drivers move away from petrol and diesel. i'm joined now by our business correspondent theo leggett. this grant scheme was always intended to be temporary, but are you surprised by the reaction from some of those motoring organisations?— some of those motoring organisations? no, i am not surprised — organisations? no, i am not surprised the _ organisations? no, i am not
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surprised the department i organisations? no, i am not. surprised the department has organisations? no, i am not- surprised the department has done this or that the industry is unhappy. the electric car grant was originally introduced because electric cars were more expensive to make and to buy than conventional vehicles. an incentive was needed to bring the price down. over time, the value of the grant has come down and its scope has been reduced, it started out at £5,000 and until todayit started out at £5,000 and until today it was only worth 1500. it was only available for the cheapest cars because the idea was if you could afford to spend £50,000 on a car, you probably do not need the ground. at the moment electric car sales are rising and rising quickly. it is the only sector of that market that is increasing and the government has decided it can afford to stop doing that, to move the subsidies into other areas. the car industry says the industry is in crisis because of covid, a shortage of semiconductors and it is the wrong time to do this. the government is saying it is refocusing the funding and the money
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that would have gone into those grounds is going towards what they call the main barriers to the transition to electric vehicles, including public charging points and we know that the conversation around that and the concerns that people have about moving to electric vehicles, they are worried about whether they can charge their cars. it makes sense in terms of the government's overall net zero strategy. it government's overall net zero strate: . , ., , strategy. it shows where the riorities strategy. it shows where the priorities are, _ strategy. it shows where the priorities are, the _ strategy. it shows where the i priorities are, the government thinks that the electric car market is growing and growing rapidly and has some momentum of its own but on top of that it is kind of replacing the carrot with a stick. it wants to bring in what is known as a zero emission via vehicle mandate and it would force manufacturers to ensure a certain percentage of the cars they sell or electric vehicles and it is moving the responsibility for selling electric cars onto the industry, ratherthan selling electric cars onto the industry, rather than providing incentives for consumers. the risk is that as the market grows, they will not be enough charging points available, but there are lots of charging points now and more are
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coming in but there are 33 million cars on circulating britain and if all of those were to be replaced by electric vehicles, we would need a lot more chargers. it is about keeping the pace of development of the charging network up with the rate at which electric cars are being sold. for the industry, the concern is that the government risks choking off back the growth of electric car usage, just as it is gaining electric car usage, 'ust as it is gaining steam._ electric car usage, 'ust as it is gaining steam. electric car usage, 'ust as it is trainin steam. . ~ , . spain is experiencing its earliest heatwave in more than four decades. it's braced for temperatures as high as a3 degrees celsius today. some areas have been placed on high alert due to the risk of wildfires. mark lobel has more. as fun as hot temperatures can be for some, many are grappling with how to cope with spain's earliest heatwave in more than a0 years, with temperatures surpassing a0 celsius, or 1a0 fahrenheit, in parts of
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central and southern spain. a cloud of hot air from north africa has sent temperatures soaring, with neighbouring france bracing itself for rising temperatures too. translation: we've had many more heatwaves after the 1980s _ than before. it is an enormous ratio of one to three, climatologists tell us, and we can see it. these heatwaves are likely to stretch through the season. decades ago, it happened mainly injuly and august. in spain, tourist hotspots seville and cordoba, are set to remain about a3 celsius, or 109 fahrenheit in the coming days. in the region of extremadura more than 100 schools have reduced their hours due to the heatwave, so that children can go home at midday.
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many parts of spain remain on alert for extreme temperatures over the coming days. mark lobel, bbc news. let's go live to madrid to speak to our correspondent guy hedgecoe. hello. last time i spoke to you a few weeks ago we were talking about how hot it was, so early in the year. since then, has the country saying essentially a continuation of this weather?— saying essentially a continuation of this weather? ~ ., ., this weather? well, at the moment in madrid here, — this weather? well, at the moment in madrid here. we _ this weather? well, at the moment in madrid here, we are _ this weather? well, at the moment in madrid here, we are seen _ madrid here, we are seen temperatures around just over 30 degrees but we expect them to rise up degrees but we expect them to rise up to a0 later on this afternoon. we heard there about those temperatures, we are expecting to see later today, in the south and going up to a3 degrees. the point here is that those temperatures are
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not unheard of in spain. people are used to having those temperatures occasionally in mid—summer, the middle ofjuly and mid august and what they are not used to seeing those temperatures so early in the air. we had a mini heatwave last month, this one we are seeing right now seems to be a lot longer. it began at the end of last week and we are told it will continue to the end of this week. i think the concern is that these sort of early heatwaves seem to be happening more frequently. i5 seem to be happening more frequently-— seem to be happening more frequently. seem to be happening more freruentl. , , ,, ., , frequently. is this sparking a big conversation _ frequently. is this sparking a big conversation about _ frequently. is this sparking a big conversation about how - frequently. is this sparking a big conversation about how to - frequently. is this sparking a big conversation about how to deal. frequently. is this sparking a big - conversation about how to deal with this sort of weather, these sorts of temperatures going forward? yes. this sort of weather, these sorts of temperatures going forward? yes, we heard about the _ temperatures going forward? yes, we heard about the immediate _ temperatures going forward? yes, we heard about the immediate cause - temperatures going forward? yes, we heard about the immediate cause of l heard about the immediate cause of this, the mass of hot air pushing up from north africa and that is often the case when we have heatwaves here in spain and inevitably there is talk about climate change, why is this happening in the longer term and strategies that could handle that. also that people talk about
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how can local authorities deal with this, the risk of wildfires, there has been a huge wildfire on the south coast in the costa del sol for the last week or so, which has burned 3000 hectares and 2000 people have been evacuated from their homes. people now are asking how can you avoid that sort of situation, do you avoid that sort of situation, do you need more resources to deal with it and there are other ways of managing the wildfires. do people need to be warned more about this, a man in almeria died on sunday because of the heat, apparently, when he was hiking, do people need tougher warnings during weather events like this? these are some of theissues events like this? these are some of the issues been talked about. thank ou ve the issues been talked about. thank you very much- _ the issues been talked about. thank you very much. the _ the issues been talked about. thank you very much. the first _ the issues been talked about. thank you very much. the first flight - you very much. the first flight taking asylum seekers to rwanda will lead from an undisclosed location in
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the uk later after campaigners lost a court battle to prevent it. earlier today the prime minister spoke on his rwanda asylum policy before cabinet, re—stating his case and said he will not be "deterred" amid legal bids to bring down the policy. what is happening with the attempt to undermine the rwanda policy is that there are undermining what everything we are trying to do to support late safe and legal writs for people to come to the uk and to oppose the illegal and dangerous routes. that is what we are trying to do, that is the essence of our policy. i think that what the criminal gangs are doing and those who are effectively abetting the work of the criminal gangs are doing is undermining people's confidence in the safe and legal system, undermining the general acceptance of immigration. my message to everyone today is that we are not
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going to be in any way deterred or abashed by some of the criticism thatis abashed by some of the criticism that is being directed upon this policy, some of it from slightly unexpected quarters, we are going to get on and deliver. the unexpected quarters, we are going to get on and deliver.— get on and deliver. the uk prime minister speaking _ get on and deliver. the uk prime minister speaking a _ get on and deliver. the uk prime minister speaking a short - get on and deliver. the uk prime minister speaking a short while i get on and deliver. the uk prime i minister speaking a short while ago. new figures out this morning underline how pay is falling behind the cost of living in the uk. real pay once inflation is taken into account is declining at the fastest rate for over a decade. data from the office for national statistics found: in the period between february and april, average real wages, excluding bonuses, fell by 2.2 per cent compared with a year earlier. public sector workers fared the worst with an average real wage fall of a.5%. in the private sector, average real wages fell by 1.6%. our economics correspondent, andy verity, says the high level ofjob vacancies should drive wage increases. we've got the tightest labour market we have seen in decades. by which i mean employers looking
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for people, vacancies are at a record number of 1.3 million, and yet in spite of that, pay is not keeping up with inflation. normally, if there is a lot of demand for workers, you would expect them to put up the pay and that has been happening. we've seen pay rises before inflation of a.2%. in the three months from february to april, comparing that to the year before, pay has gone up by a.2%. that is still not enough of course to keep up with elevated levels of inflation and that's why those figures you quoted earlier show a realfall in pay. in other words, when you take account of inflation, that is the amount of goods you can actually buy, that's gone down by 2.2%. now, those are three month figures. if you look at the more recent indicators of the figures from april this year, which is after the big bill rises and after the tax rises the government brought in at the same time, compare that with the year before and the picture is even worse. so you have pay going up by a.1%,
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that's a result of the fact employers really need the workers, but on the other hand because inflation is so elevated in april, it means that on average you are looking at a negative real terms pay fall of 3.a%. and if you're in the public sector, as you said, a a.5% fall on the three month number, but on the april to april number it's down by some 6% year—on—year. when you have got a recruitment crisis in public services, particularly in the nhs, and wages are lagging so far behind inflation, it's not going to help you to attract the staff you need if pay is falling in real terms. scientists are planning to work out the genetic makeup of all life in the british isles. the project to sequence the genomes of about 70,000 species could help transform how we understand the natural world. here's our science editor, rebecca morelle.
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a close—up look at how weird and wonderful the natural world. from a delicate sea creature called a brittle star, to a hermit crab carrying a sea anemone on its back. and these bizarre animals known as mud owls. all of these creatures were scooped up just off the coast of plymouth. so you've got two worms here. this one is almost made these overlapping scales of kind of sandy shell. they're being collected for an ambitious new project, to sequence the genomes of all life in the british isles. today, scientists are focusing on marine worms, known as polychaetes. it's a big task. hundreds and hundreds of species. we've got over 100 now. 120—odd species of polychaetes collected. it seems like a lot but really it's just the beginning. the plan is to sequence the dna of every plant, animal and fungi in britain and ireland — that's about 70,000 species. and some are surprising.
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there's a type of microalgae that has 200 billion letters of dna. that's more than 60 times bigger than the human genome. and the scientists plan to do this all by 2030. the dna extraction is being carried out at the wellcome sanger institute. the human genome was sequenced here two decades ago. that took years but now a species can be completed in a few days. when the human genome was sequenced, it changed the way we do human biology for ever. it's really transformed how we see ourselves, how we work with our health and illness. we want to make that possible for all of biology. so we want everybody working on any species, or any group of species anywhere in the world able to have this ultimate foundation. one genome that is now complete belongs to the badger. in oxfordshire, as dusk falls, a family emerges from their sett. scientists say, having their detailed genetic information is vital.
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getting the badger genome sequence is really important because we can see how badgers adapt to diseases, how they adapt to their environment, and how they interact with other species in their ecosystem. back onshore in plymouth, the rock pools are full of surprises. but their genetic code could also help us to find nature—inspired medicines or materials. this immense endeavour could change our understanding of the diversity of life. rebecca morrelle, bbc news, plymouth. the rolling stones had to cancel a concert in amsterdam on monday night because sir mickjagger tested positive for covid—19. the singer, who's 78, began to develop symptoms as he arrived at the venue. the band say the concert will be rescheduled. this weekend saw some of the world's best free—runners come together come together to compete
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on the greek island of ast—ypalea. daring tricks were performed by the runners as they made their way across the rooftops of the picturesque island. the british 19—year—old, travis verkaik, triumphed in the men's event, and an american, sydney olson, won the women's competition. that is it from me for today, you are watching bbc news. it is time now for a look at the weather forecast. hello again. the heat and humidity is going to continue to build over the next few days, particularly across england and wales, although by the end of the week we'll be seeing higher temperatures getting into southern scotland and the south of northern ireland as well. what we have at the moment is a fair bit of cloud actually across northern ireland and scotland. there'll be some sunny breaks developing, but we've also got this light rain across the north and the west and at times that could get in to northern ireland as well. for england and for wales there'll be some sunshine, but increasingly some fair weather cloud developing, but that will melt away in the latter part of the afternoon and into the evening. so we'll see more sunshine again,
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with highs of 13 to 2a degrees. but pollen levels today are high or very high across all of england and also wales. and we're talking grass and also some nettle pollen mixed in there. now, as we head on through the evening and overnight, we hang onto clear skies across england and also wales. but a weather front moving across northern ireland and scotland will bring in some thicker cloud and also some rain. the rain moving quite swiftly towards the north—east. these are our overnight lows, seven to about 13 degrees. now, as we start tomorrow, what you'll find is high pressure will still be firmly in charge, and it's effectively blocking this cold front from sinking further southwards. so what that means is that for northern ireland and for scotland, once again, you're going to see all this cloud related to that weather front and also the rain associated with it too. but to the east of northern ireland, to the east of scotland, we are looking at some brighter breaks and we continue with the sunshine across england and also wales, with fairweather cloud developing through the course of the day. 19 in glasgow, 27 being the top temperature in london. so in the warm sunshine the temperatures are creeping up.
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by the time we get to thursday, we'll be pulling in the hotter continental air. there'll be a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine across england and wales, a weather front moving across northern ireland and scotland, bringing in all this rain. and temperatures 13 in the north, 25 in birmingham, 27 as we push down towards london, and increasingly it will start to feel humid. it will feel humid overnight thursday into friday. friday sees the peak of the heat, a lot of sunshine across england and wales. still the rain moving across scotland and northern ireland. here we've got temperatures 1a to about 20 degrees. come south, 31.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 11... final legal challanges by asylum seekers are being heard today before the first flight due to take migrants from the uk to rwanda as part of a new government policy. the flight will take off tonight. it's very important that we establish the principle of this route into rwanda. with the attempt to undermine the rwanda policy is that they are, i'm afraid, undermining everything that we're trying to do to support safe and legal routes for people to come to the uk. a fundamentally unlawful policy. claiming asylum is a human right, land rwanda is not a safe countryl to which people can be returned. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, is to launch
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a fresh campaign for independence — a lawful vote requires the approval of the uk government. we'll be bringing you the latest images from edinburgh, where nicola sturgeon is expected to be speaking within the next few minutes. remembering the victims of grenfell five years on from the grenfell tower fire in london, where 72 people were killed. events are being held across the city. scientists are planning to work out the genetic make—up of all life in the british isles. the project to sequence the genomes of about 70,000 species could help transform how we understand the natural world. the first flight taking asylum seekers to rwanda will leave from an undisclosed location in the uk this evening
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after campaigners lost a court battle to prevent it. they had hoped to stop the plane taking off before a full hearing next month on whether the policy is lawful. once in rwanda, those sent there will get accommodation and support while the rwandan government considers their application and, if they are successful, they can stay in the country with up to five yea rs' access to education and support. but if their asylum claim is unsuccessful, they could face deportation from rwanda. dozens of asylum seekers were originally due to be on the flight but most won appeals against being sent to rwanda. it's not known how many people will be on tonight's flight, but it's thought to be about seven or eight people, and some of those have hearings today to determine whether they will be on board. the cost of chartering the boeing 767 is estimated at about £500,000. the government says the flights are necessary to combat human trafficking gangs and deter dangerous channel crossings. opposition to the scheme
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has continued. the entire senior leadership of the church of england has protested in a letter published in the times. they say... "many are desperate people fleeing unspeakable horrors." and the letter goes on to add... "this immoral policy shames britain." vincent mcaviney reports. despite the government's publicity around its new policy, yesterday, 37 asylum seekers arrived on the kent coast. but they could face potential removal to rwanda because they've travelled from france, a safe country. this is the boeing 767 chartered by the home office to take the first group of asylum seekers on a one way ticket to rwanda later today. the plane can carry around 200 on the a,095 mile journey, but only eight asylum seekers will be aboard, three of whom are in court in the next few hours, arguing to be removed from the flight. home secretary priti patel has long argued the policy is in the public interest, designed to deter unnecessary
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journeys from safe eu countries and thwart the criminal gangs today, scotland, like countries across the world, faces significant challenges, but we also have huge advantages and immense potential. the refreshed case for independence is about how we equip ourselves to navigate the challenges and fulfil that potential. now and in the future. in their day—to—day lives, people across scotland are of course suffering the impact of the soaring cost of living, low growth and increasing inequality, constrained public finances and the many implications of a brexit that we did not vote for. these problems have all been made worse or obviously the
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case of brexit directly caused by the fact that we are not independent. so at this critical juncture, we face a fundamental question, do we stay tied to a uk economic model that consigns us to relatively poor economic and social outcomes which are likely to get worse, not better, outside the european union? or do we instead lift our eyes with hope and optimism and take inspiration from comparable countries across europe? comparable neighbouring countries with different characteristics, countries that in many cases lack the abundance of resources that scotland is blessed with, but all of them independent and as we showed today wealthier and fairer than the uk. today's paper and those that will follow in the weeks and months to come is about substance. that is
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what really matters. the strength of the substantive case will determine the substantive case will determine the decision people reach when the choices offered, as it will be, and it is time now to set out a debate that case. after everything that has happened, brexit, covid, boris johnson, it is time to set out a different and better vision, it is time to talk about making scotland wealthier and fairer, it is time to talk about independence and then to make the choice. now, how we secure that choice, as we are committed to doing, is of course a highly pertinent question, so while today is very much about substance, let me address briefly the issue of process. i was re—elected as first ministerjust over one year ago on a clear commitment to give the people of scotland the choice of becoming
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an independent country, and the people of scotland elected a scottish parliament with a decisive majority in favour of both independence and the right to choose. the scottish parliament therefore has an indisputable democratic mandate, and we intend to honour that. a referendum, though, if it is to be deliverable, commands confidence and achieve its objective, must be lawful. it is the party's opposed to independence, and only then, he would benefit from doubt about the process. these parties do not want to engage in the substance of this debate because they know how increasingly threadbare their arguments are, their only hope is to cast doubt on their only hope is to cast doubt on the process. those of us who relish the process. those of us who relish the opportunity to make and when the substantive case for independence
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must not allow them to do so. of course, if this uk government had any respect at all for democracy, theissue any respect at all for democracy, the issue of legality would be put beyond doubt, as in 201a, from a section 30 order. i made clear to the prime minister that i stand ready to discuss the terms of such an order at any time. but my duty as an order at any time. but my duty as a democratically elected first minister is to the people of scotland, it is not to borisjohnson alter any tory prime minister. this is a uk government that has no respect for democracy and as we saw again yesterday it has no regard for the rule of law either. that means, if we are to uphold democracy here in scotland, we must forge a way forward, if necessary, without a section 30 order. the reasons i have set out already, we must do so in a lawful manner, however. we know that in these circumstances the competence of the scottish
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parliament to legislate is contested, and that therefore is the situation we must navigate to give people the choice of independence. that work is well under way and while i do not intend to go further into the detail today i can say that i do plan to give a significant update to parliament very soon indeed. the principles of democracy and the rule of law are fundamental. this should unite all of us, regardless of our politics. indeed, democracy within the rule of law is how differences of political or constitutional opinion should always be resolved. the fact these principles are now so deeply disrespected and disregarded, day and daily in the uk, is itself an indication of how broken westminster governments is, indeed, that has become part of the argument for independence and it is to that substantive case that i now return.
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the choice people arrive at an independence must be an informed one. the case we make must speak not just to those who already support independence but also indeed even more so to those not yet persuaded. it is an obvious point but one that it is an obvious point but one that i think it always bears repetition, scotland will only become independent when the majority of those who live here vote for it. it is in that spirit therefore that we publish this first series of papers. today, we set the scene. i can confirm, though, that paper is to come later and which are already in preparation will include the issuance of currency, scotland's fiscal position and how we can build a more sustainable economy and therefore stronger public finances, pensions and social security, eu membership and trade, defence and security. in these papers we will set out her scotland can benefit
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from the opportunities, the massive opportunities, the independence will present. we will also confront openly the challenges we will not shy away from tough questions. we will address key issues relating to the transition from a yes vote to independence and the infrastructure required for the governance of an independent country. of course, on that latter point, scotland has already come a long way since 201a, already come a long way since 201a, a great deal of nation—building has been done in the years since. for example, scotland now has our own tax and social security agencies, an independent fiscal commission and a national investment bank, in other words, substantial parts of the infrastructure that an independent scotland will need and which do not exist in 201a are now in place and that means that scotland today is even more prepared for independence than we were in 201a. of course, any
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case for change starts with an analysis of the status quo, and that is the purpose of the paper we are publishing today. it really is not difficult to list the many ways in which westminster governance is currently failing scotland and holding us back. we have a prime minister with no democratic authority in scotland and no moral authority in scotland and no moral authority anywhere in the uk. brexit has ripped us out of the eu and the single market against our will, with massive damage to trade, living standards and public services. thanks to brexit, the cost of living crisis is worse here in the uk than in any other g7 country, inflation in any other g7 country, inflation in the uk is double that of france. uk growth is now projected by the oecd to be the second lowest in the g20 next year, only sanctioned russia will be worse. the end of
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freedom of movement has left businesses and public services struggling for workers, it has also robbed young people of opportunity. and to compound all of that, we face the very real risk now of an eu trade forjoe to the uk government's threat to breach international law over the northern ireland protocol. this is the very same uk government that negotiated and signed the protocol, a protocol that is actually delivering significant economic benefits to northern ireland, only adds to the absurdity. in short, the case for scotland charting our own course, a better course, is strong and compelling. but the evidence we set out today shows that this case does notjust rest and recent temporary developments. in today's paper we look at detail at ten comparative countries, ireland, switzerland,
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norway, denmark, the netherlands, iceland, sweden, austria, belgium and finland. the evidence is overwhelming in these countries, now and over time they perform better than the uk. compared to these countries, many of them smaller or similarly sized to us, scotland under westminster control is being held back. with independence we too would have the levers and the autonomy that these countries take for granted to help fulfil their potential. and let's look at the evidence presented today. every single one of these comparative countries is wealthier than the uk, and that wealth gap has been maintained over the long term. all of these countries have greater income equality than the uk. poverty rates are lower in every single one of them with fewer children living in poverty. most of them have a smaller gender pay gap, all of them
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have higher social mobility, and they have more productive and innovative economies too. all of them have higher productivity, most of them spend more on research and development, business investment is higher as well, the evidence set out in this paper is clear and it is unambiguous. all of these countries are wealthier, fairer and more productive than the uk, and all of these countries are independent. so as we look to the future, the great question before us is this, if all of these countries can and do use the powers of independence to create wealthier and fairer society is, why not scotland? with our vast energy resources, why not scotland? with our globally recognised record of innovation, invention and learning, why not scotland? with our
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exceptional food and drink industry, extraordinary natural heritage and the strength we have in advanced engineering and a range of cutting edge industries of the future, why not scotland? above all, with the talent and potential of all of the people who live here, why not scotland? now, independence does not guarantee success for any country, and we should never pretend that it does. but for scotland, independence will put the levers that determine success into our own hands, it will mean we can work in partnership with ourfriends in the rest mean we can work in partnership with our friends in the rest of the uk, but not be subject to decisions of westminster governments we don't vote for and which are taking us on the wrong direction. it will give us the wrong direction. it will give us the ability, just like these comparative countries, to fulfil the vast potential we have and both are wealthier, fairer, happier country wealthier, fairer, happier country we know as possible. that then is
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the price, building a better nation, now and for the future, that indeed is the whole purpose of independence. grasping that prize will not be without challenge, nothing worth doing ever is. so in the months ahead we will set out in detail how we can make the transition to independence, how we can never get overcome these challenges so that this precious prize, the opportunity of a better country, can be won. scotland now and for the generations that come after us deserves the very best, and independence is how we can secure that. thank you very much for listening, i will now hand over to patrick to say a few words and then we will take your questions. last ear, of we will take your questions. last year. of course. _ we will take your questions. last year, of course, we _ we will take your questions. last year, of course, we were elected on manifesto _ year, of course, we were elected on manifesto commitments to deliver an
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independence referendum when this parliamentary term. we promised to lay the _ parliamentary term. we promised to lay the groundwork for an independent nation that is progressive, compassionate, but on the principles of democracy, equality— the principles of democracy, equality and respect for the planet. so its— equality and respect for the planet. so it's a _ equality and respect for the planet. so it's a real privilege to be here with you — so it's a real privilege to be here with you today alongside the first minister— with you today alongside the first minister and with you today alongside the first ministerand as part with you today alongside the first minister and as part of the scottish government to set out how we intend to deliver _ government to set out how we intend to deliver on — government to set out how we intend to deliver on that commitment. i will read — to deliver on that commitment. i will read as— to deliver on that commitment. i will read as changing, economic inequalities are widening, people across— inequalities are widening, people across scotland are under ever more intense _ across scotland are under ever more intense pressure as inflation grows, and we _ intense pressure as inflation grows, and we are — intense pressure as inflation grows, and we are accelerating towards climate — and we are accelerating towards climate and environmental breakdown. with a _ climate and environmental breakdown. with a limited levers and finite budget— with a limited levers and finite budget that the scottish government currently— budget that the scottish government currently has available, we are already— currently has available, we are already doing what we can to navigate _ already doing what we can to navigate the stormy waters and deliver— navigate the stormy waters and deliver our version of a fairer and greener— deliver our version of a fairer and greener scotland. to give a few examples, the scottish child payment is putting _ examples, the scottish child payment is putting money into the pockets of those _
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is putting money into the pockets of those who _ is putting money into the pockets of those who need it most, with free bus travel— those who need it most, with free bus travel for young people and record — bus travel for young people and record investment in energy efficiency, targeted at low—income households, we are cutting the cost of living _ households, we are cutting the cost of living and helping to tackle the climate _ of living and helping to tackle the climate crisis. these actions and much _ climate crisis. these actions and much more _ climate crisis. these actions and much more show our determination to deliver— much more show our determination to deliver on— much more show our determination to deliver on our— much more show our determination to deliver on our promises. but we also have to _ deliver on our promises. but we also have to be _ deliver on our promises. but we also have to be honest about the precarious... have to be honest about the precarious. . ._ have to be honest about the precarious... have to be honest about the recarious... ., , ., . ., precarious... that is the launch of the fresh campaign _ precarious... that is the launch of the fresh campaign for _ precarious... that is the launch of the fresh campaign for scottish i the fresh campaign for scottish independence with another referendum on scottish independence, let's go to our correspondent in bute house. this is the start of a roll—out of various papers looking at different aspects of independence? yes. various papers looking at different aspects of independence? yes, the first in this — aspects of independence? yes, the first in this series _ aspects of independence? yes, the first in this series of— aspects of independence? yes, the first in this series of papers - aspects of independence? yes, the first in this series of papers which l first in this series of papers which will deal with everything from currency, scotland's fiscal position, how the snp and the greens, who are in government with them here in scotland, believe that
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they can build a more sustainable and fairer economy if scotland were to be independence, another paper will deal with defence, another with pensions and social security, but todayit pensions and social security, but today it was a scene setter, scotland's first minister said, she said scotland... it has huge advantages, great potential, but that an analysis of the status quo suggests that the uk government is failing scotland, holding it back, and this paper she presented today, and this paper she presented today, and analyse the position of the uk and analyse the position of the uk and scotland relative to ten other nations throughout europe, and she said the evidence was that she believed that scotland would be much better off were it to be independent. so this is if you like the starting gun on this second independence campaign. of course that first vote was back in 201a,
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when scotland voted in favour of independence. at the moment, the polling suggests it's roughly 50—50 in favour and against independence but, while this paper is about why scotland should be independent, many people of course believe the bigger question is how she would get it to a position of scotland being able to dock for her government to hold a second vote here. nicola sturgeon did touch on that in her comments a few minutes ago, she said she was voted with a mandate to hold a second independence referendum, along with the greens, the snp have along with the greens, the snp have a majority in the scottish parliament hill in edinburgh to hold a second independence referendum. of course, in addition to that, she
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admitted there is the issue of legality and what is called a section 30 order would put that beyond any doubt, but it is within the gift of the government at westminster to issue the section 30 order, which would hand a mandate to the scottish parliament to hold a second independence referendum. the uk government is opposed to giving that mandate to nicola sturgeon's government, they say now is not the time, but nicola sturgeon said she would set out over the coming weeks and months notjust those papers on theissues and months notjust those papers on the issues but also this question of process and how she believes there is a way for the parliament here to have a lawful mandate to hold a second referendum. so have a lawful mandate to hold a second referendum.— second referendum. so she is suggesting — second referendum. so she is suggesting then, _ second referendum. so she is suggesting then, even - second referendum. so she is| suggesting then, even without permission from westminster, they could go ahead with it? that
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permission from westminster, they could go ahead with it?— could go ahead with it? that seems to be the suggestion. _ could go ahead with it? that seems to be the suggestion. many - could go ahead with it? that seems to be the suggestion. many legal i to be the suggestion. many legal commentators struggled to see the pathway through, and they think that, if a section 30 order were denied, this issue would be held up in the courts, in all likelihood reaching the supreme court. there are a couple of steps to it, they have to introduce and pass through a bill in the scottish parliament to hold a second independence referendum, and then it's this question of where the legality and the right to hold this referendum lies because the constitution is a reserved issue, initially reserved to westminster, but nicola sturgeon says there is an overwhelming democratic mandate here in scotland for her government to hold this referendum, an indisputable
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democratic mandate, she said. she said that her and the greens were elected to scottish parliament with a decisive majority in favour of independence and therefore right to choose this second... choose to hold the second independence referendum, a referendum she says she intends to hold before the end of next year, but it is this question about the process, the pathway through to that point, disputed by westminster, they say they were not hand over section 30 order, but nicola sturgeon seemed to hint today that they think that they have a pathway, a way to lawfully hold the second vote. thank ou ve lawfully hold the second vote. thank you very much- _ ukraine's eastern city of severodonetsk is now completely cut off from the rest of the country after all three bridges were destroyed by russian forces. heavy fighting has been taking place there for weeks and thousands of civilians and ukrainian troops are now trapped. president zelensky described
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the cost of the battle against russian troops in the city as "terrifying". our correspondent, joe inwood, has been explaining the significance of severodonetsk. so severodonetsk is one of two cities, two towns that is left in the luhansk oblast. now, this is one of two regions where the russians have really focused their efforts, they say they are trying to take. they make up collectively the donbas region, and you'll have heard of that many times. so they are pushing for this big city, severodonetsk. it is on the eastern bank of this crucial river, so what they are trying to do is encircle ukrainian forces there, cut them off and then grind them down, grind them down with the withering artillery barrages that characterise russians' assault, their attack on this region, and then moving with fairground troops. we understand there is very, very heavy fighting, street by street. ukrainians say they are defending every square metre of this territory but it is a fight that is becoming increasingly difficult and will get
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even more so now that those three bridges mean that the forces cannot get out any more, the civilians can't out but, maybe more importantly from a defender�*s point of view, new supplies can't get in. breaking news about patrick grady. he should be suspended from the commons for two days for breaching parliament's sexual misconduct policy. he has been an mp for the snp, representing glasgow north, since 2015, and there has this been report by an independent expert palin, looking into an allegation against him. it has concluded unwanted physical touching with sexual intent from senior mp to a junior member of staff, even on a single occasion, is a significant breach of policy and must be marked by some period of suspension,
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however, for the reasons we have set out, in this case, it should be short and will be somewhat shorter thanit short and will be somewhat shorter than it might have been by reference to the breaches of confidentiality by the complainant. we consider that the respondent should be suspended the respondent should be suspended the two sitting days from the house, and that neither day should be a friday, and in addition the respondent must make a full and unreserved apology to the house via a personal statement. so thatjust through about patrick grady, snp politician, elected at the 2015 general election as mp for glasgow north. let's bring in our political correspondent. so tell us more then about what was known about the allegations and what now happens. brute allegations and what now happens. - have known for a while that patrick
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grady was being investigated. he used to be the snp's chief whip, the man in charge of party discipline, he was stood down from that role when these allegations first emerged and since then has been an snp backbencher. that report has dropped within the last half hour or so, but it's pretty clear that mr grady made an unwanted sexual advance that included touching and stroking the complainant's net, hair and back, according to this report from the independent panel, and it goes on to say that any unwanted physical touching with sexual intent from a senior mp to a junior member of staff, even on a single occasion, is a significant breach of policy. it must be marked by some period of suspension from the house of commons. as you were saying, the recommendation is for a two—day suspension from parliament, i'm
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almost certain that will be approved, he has been told to make a public and private apology to the complainant. we have not had an official response from the snp yet to this but my understanding is the party is likely to suspend mr grady from the whip for a short period, not permanently, but temporarily, although we have not had that confirmed by the partyjust yet. nicola sturgeon is continuing to speak on the matter of independence, so maybe it is something she will be asked about, but that news just through. now it's time for a look at the weather with carol. hello again. the heat and humidity is going to continue to build we is going to continue to build will see fairweather ci develop.
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we will see fairweather clow develop. the northern ireland and scotland, more cloud for you with outbreaks of rain at times but the rain particularly heavy and temperature is 13—25. rain particularly heavy and temperature is 13—25 . as we had evening and overnight, more and rain spelling, the rain moving swiftly towards the north—east, and we have some clear skies across england and wales. these are our overnight lows. so we start tomorrow with its clear skies and sunshine across england and wales. we also have this cloud across northern ireland and scotland, breaking at times, allowing it to brighten up, but there will be showery outbreaks of rain with a temperature range of 13-27. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... final legal challenges by asylum seekers are being heard today before
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the first flight due to take migrants from the uk to rwanda as part of a new government policy. scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon launches a campaign for independence. it is sturgeon launches a campaign for independence.— sturgeon launches a campaign for independence. it is time to set out a different and _ independence. it is time to set out a different and better _ independence. it is time to set out a different and better vision. it i independence. it is time to set out a different and better vision. it is l a different and better vision. it is time to talk about making scotland wealthier and fairer. it is time to talk about independence and to make a choice. find talk about independence and to make a choice. �* . a choice. and remembering the victims of _ a choice. and remembering the victims of grenfell _ a choice. and remembering the victims of grenfell five - a choice. and remembering the victims of grenfell five years i a choice. and remembering thej victims of grenfell five years on from the ground felt our fire in london were 72 people were killed. events are being held across the city. scientists are working to work out the genetic make—up of all life on the british isles, the project to sequence the genomes of about 75,000 species could help to transform how we understand the natural world. the department for transport has announced it is scrapping the plug—in grant scheme which encourages people to buy electric
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cars, a scheme that was started in 2011 will close to new applicants today. sport and a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. good morning. england, wales and scotland all play in the nations league this evening, while australia became the latest team to qualify for the world cup. the star man was definitely keeper andrew redmayne. he chose a unique way to try to save the penalties and got to give it to him, it worked. the 33 year old has just three caps for australia but was brought on specifically at the end for the penalty shoot—out against peru. happy feet, prompting millions of happy aussies back home including this reporter... yeah! we're through. we're through to the world cup! absolutely no impartiality from that person...but can you blame him. that's australia fifth world cup qualification in a row.
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imagine if they win it! the former manchester united and chelsea chief executive peter kenyon is leading a consortium hoping to buy everton. the club's british—iranian owner farhad moshiri is known to be open to investment options around the funding of a new stadium. however he has not ruled out selling equity stakes in the club. kenyon has worked on a number of deals in recent years and was linked with a potential bid for newcastle united before its saudi takeover. and before we move on from football, some sad news to bring you .. the former rangers and scotland winger davie wilson has died wilson scored 158 goals across 11 seasons at ibrox, winning four league titles, five scottish cups and two league cups.he was also in the team that reached the 1960 european cup semi—finals and 1961 cup winners' cup final... davie wilson who has died aged 85. all four results are possible
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on the final day of the second test at trent bridge. england began hoping to take the last three new zealand second innings wickets quickly before attempting to chase down a target. latest score is 2a5—7. follow it all live on test match special on radio 5 live sports extra, with full text coverage and video clips on the bbc sport website. there has been a wicked and it looks like stuart broad has just taken matt henry. new zealand are 2a5—8. the build up to wimbledon continues later with more grass court action at queen's club in london. dan evans is among the british players to feature. whilst at the birmingham classic, katie boulter is due out third on centre court. yesterday 20 year old british playerjack draper produced the biggest win of his career at queen's as he beat a top—20 player for the first time
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in the shape of taylor fritz. and with british number one cam norrie knocked out, andy murray pulling out, draper who isjust inside the world's top 100 could be one to watch this summer. as harriet dart could be, after reaching the second round of the birmingham classic, after a breakthrough year, reaching her first wta quarterfinal in nottingham last week. she says being happier off the court has led to improved performances on it. not long to go until the third golf major of the year — the us open — gets under way. justin thomas won the uspga title this year and says it's �*sad' that the build up to thursday�*s tournament has been dominated by chat around golf civil war. with players from the longstanding pga tour teeing off against the breakaway liv series... you cannot go anywhere without somebody bringing it up, but that is just one of the things i spoke to
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earlier, this is the us open and this is an unbelievable venue, a place with so much history, unbelievable field, so many storylines, yet that seems to be what all the questions are about and thatis what all the questions are about and that is unfortunate, it is not right for the us open orfor us as players. that is unfortunately where we are right now. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc dot c0 dot uk slash sport. today marks 5 years since the devastating fire at grenfell tower in west london — it's one of the uk's worst modern disasters. 72 people lost their lives. today relatives of those who died, and survivors, will remember their loved ones and pay their respects. victoria derbyshire reported on the fire 5 years ago and in the days and weeks afterwards and is there this morning. good morning.
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we are talking to people here today he managed to escape from the tower on that night and talking to people who lost loved ones in the tower. we are asking them also what they think of the kind of things that have come out of the ground felt public inquiry so far. the cladding that had been put up as part of the refurbishment of the tower previously contained plastic that was highly flammable and that the company behind it knew that it was highly flammable ten years before grenfell but carried on selling it. it was back cladding and other failings that led to the flames spreading swiftly and fatally around the four corners of the tower. before i introduce our next guest, i would like to talk to you a little about some of the people who died that night. victoria king, 71, died with her daughter, alexandra atala, a0, on the 20th floor, according to media reports. their family said they were devastated.
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some comfort can come from the knowledge that she and alexandra were devoted to one another and spent so many mutually—supportive years together. victoria king, 71, died with her daughter, they died at each other�*s side and now they can rest together in peace. jessica urbano ramirez, 12, was at home on the 20th floor of the tower block on the night of the fire. her parents were not in the block at the time and received phone calls from jessica, desperate for help. mrs urbano said she told her daughter to run as fast as possible down the stairs, but her remains were found in the 23rd floor flat of raymond bernard. in a statement, the family said: "nothing will ever bring our little girl back, and we are angry that this should ever have happened to our little angel. we will not rest until we get justice for her and for the many other lives lost as a result of this crime." i'm joined by willie thompson, who escaped from the 8th floor
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of grenfell tower. everyone on your floor, the eighth floor, survived. how? i everyone on your floor, the eighth floor, survived. how?— everyone on your floor, the eighth floor, survived. how? iwas lying in bed, floor, survived. how? iwas lying in bed. reading _ floor, survived. how? iwas lying in bed. reading a _ floor, survived. how? iwas lying in bed, reading a book, _ floor, survived. how? iwas lying in bed, reading a book, and _ floor, survived. how? iwas lying in| bed, reading a book, and somebody knocked on my door and it was late at night and i thought, who is this? i opened the door and there was a young teenage boy from next door and he said there is a fire in the building. so, ithought he said there is a fire in the building. so, i thought of the protocol, it was to stay within your own flat, that the fire service would deal with it, and they would let us know when it was done. he said thanks, went back into his flat and ten minutes later, the knock on the door again, and before he said anything, i looked past him to the lift lobby and i thought, white
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smoke, with black smoke above it, and i thought, it could be trouble here. because of the smell of the smoke, it was acrid, stinking, i thought we were in trouble and i said to the young boy, i think we do need to get out. this young man went around to every door on our floor and knocked every door and assured that everyone was aware of what was going on and asked them to leave the building. he going on and asked them to leave the buildinr. . . going on and asked them to leave the buildinr. , ., ., ., , building. he is a hero. he really is. he actually _ building. he is a hero. he really is. he actually asked _ building. he is a hero. he really is. he actually asked you - building. he is a hero. he really is. he actually asked you not i building. he is a hero. he really is. he actually asked you not to| is. he actually asked you not to mention his name. i is. he actually asked you not to mention his name. i mentioned him once a while — mention his name. i mentioned him once a while back, _ mention his name. i mentioned him once a while back, shortly _ mention his name. i mentioned him once a while back, shortly after i mention his name. i mentioned him once a while back, shortly after the | once a while back, shortly after the fire, and he is such a pleasant young man, he said thank you, but i would rather you did not. i don't want the media anywhere near him. i have not mentioned his name. what want the media anywhere near him. i have not mentioned his name. what do ou want to have not mentioned his name. what do you want to say — have not mentioned his name. what do you want to say to _ have not mentioned his name. what do you want to say to that _ have not mentioned his name. what do you want to say to that young _ have not mentioned his name. what do you want to say to that young man? i you want to say to that young man? what can i say, other than i am so,
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so grateful. as i said, he is a hero. thanks does not do it, but there is nothing more i can say. flan there is nothing more i can say. can i ask you. — there is nothing more i can say. can i ask you. how— there is nothing more i can say. can i ask you, how would you describe the effect on you of the experiences of that night? it the effect on you of the experiences of that night?— of that night? it was a horrendous nirht for of that night? it was a horrendous night for us _ of that night? it was a horrendous night for us all. _ of that night? it was a horrendous night for us all. the _ of that night? it was a horrendous night for us all. the effects - of that night? it was a horrendous night for us all. the effects on i of that night? it was a horrendous night for us all. the effects on me are still ongoing. mentally... i am damaged, i cannot get past what happened in the block. i regularly see clips of my friends, nightmares of friends, i see things in my mind that i did not see, that i could not possibly have seen, and my mind has conjured up visions of things going on in the building. yeah. it is
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horrendous. i don't sleep much because of it. there are people worse off than me, really are. they don't know what to do with themselves. i guess the answer to your question is, i am damaged, and i cannot see how i can ever get through this. are you talking to a therapist? yes, i have been for a long time now. she says i will get through it. she says that i am a strong individual and i will come out the other side. i won't, i know i won't. the images from that night and the people that we lost, it can never be eradicated for me. can i ask who you _ never be eradicated for me. can i ask who you are _ never be eradicated for me. can i ask who you are thinking - never be eradicated for me. can i ask who you are thinking about today? i ask who you are thinking about toda ? ~' ., ask who you are thinking about toda ? ~ ., , ., ., today? i think of everyone that we lost. i today? i think of everyone that we lost- i knew _ today? i think of everyone that we lost. i knew all _ today? i think of everyone that we lost. i knew all the _ today? i think of everyone that we lost. i knew all the adults, - today? i think of everyone that we lost. i knew all the adults, some l today? i think of everyone that we | lost. i knew all the adults, some of the children as well, 18 children died that night. i did not know all
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the children, but i knew some of them. my mind tends to go to a friend of mine, dennis murphy. there are at least three opportunities that might to get him, the fire service moved him on his own flat to the flat next door, i really don't know what they were thinking, they walked past the door to the stairwell to put him into another flat. i don't know what they were thinking, if his own flat was not safe, why was the next one side? i don't know where those thoughts were. ., ~ ., ., , , . were. you will know from the public inrui were. you will know from the public inquiry there _ were. you will know from the public inquiry there was, _ were. you will know from the public inquiry there was, i _ were. you will know from the public inquiry there was, i don't _ were. you will know from the public inquiry there was, i don't know i were. you will know from the public| inquiry there was, i don't know what the right word is, there was a notion, a convention, that flats in blocks were often compartmentalised. but what no one knew at the time was, the cladding was combustible,
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there were gaps in the new windows that allowed, allowed the air to spread the flames. that chimney effect between _ spread the flames. that chimney effect between the _ spread the flames. that chimney effect between the cladding, i spread the flames. that chimney | effect between the cladding, that perpetuated it as well. but, everything about it, the surrounds, it was all combustible. the cladding was combustible, the boards were combustible,... everything. everything that could be done wrong was done wrong, because it was cheap. d0 was done wrong, because it was chea. ,, was done wrong, because it was chea. ~' was done wrong, because it was chea. was done wrong, because it was chea-. , cheap. do you think you will see 'ustice in cheap. do you think you will see justice in your — cheap. do you think you will see justice in your lifetime? - cheap. do you think you will see justice in your lifetime? i - justice in your lifetime? i sincerely hope so, victoria. we are a long way from justice. the police have not even taken full control of this yet. they won't give us a timeframe on how long they want it. the cps said they would take us from
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that place that they have not given us a timeline. no one wants to tell us a timeline. no one wants to tell us anything. ifear that us a timeline. no one wants to tell us anything. i fear that when the inquiry is done, everything will go quiet on us. ikla inquiry is done, everything will go quiet on us— quiet on us. no one is going to let that happen- _ quiet on us. no one is going to let that happen. that _ quiet on us. no one is going to let that happen. that is _ quiet on us. no one is going to let that happen. that is where - quiet on us. no one is going to let that happen. that is where you i quiet on us. no one is going to let l that happen. that is where you guys come in. that happen. that is where you guys come in- the _ that happen. that is where you guys come in. the police _ that happen. that is where you guys come in. the police are _ that happen. that is where you guys come in. the police are reluctant i that happen. that is where you guys come in. the police are reluctant to | come in. the police are reluctant to give us anything. so, the inquiry is our only source. we do fear that it is going to go quiet. we are struggling to know what is happening. we have to be kept abreast of everything. we have to know what is going on. they need to help us. know what is going on. they need to hel us. . ~ know what is going on. they need to hel us. ., ,, i. know what is going on. they need to hel us. . ~' ,, , know what is going on. they need to hel us. . ~ ,, , . know what is going on. they need to hel us. . ~ , . ., help us. thank you very much for talkinr help us. thank you very much for talkin: to help us. thank you very much for talking to us _ help us. thank you very much for talking to us today. _ help us. thank you very much for talking to us today. we _ help us. thank you very much for talking to us today. we really i talking to us today. we really appreciate your time. thank you. let me take that from you, because i am going to say thank you to you. i will introduce our next guest. i'm joined by pete wolfenden, a retired firefighter who was called to grenfell on the night of the fire.
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you are on shift that night, you were a senior officer with 27 years experience behind you, when you got to grenfell, can you remember what your first thoughts were?— to grenfell, can you remember what your first thoughts were? excuse me. i didn't really — your first thoughts were? excuse me. i didn't really see _ your first thoughts were? excuse me. i didn't really see the _ your first thoughts were? excuse me. i didn't really see the blog _ your first thoughts were? excuse me. i didn't really see the blog when i - i didn't really see the blog when i first turned up, i had a quick snatch— first turned up, i had a quick snatch where you can see the flames running _ snatch where you can see the flames running up _ snatch where you can see the flames running up the side of the building and when — running up the side of the building and when you go to an operational incident, _ and when you go to an operational incident, you always try and relate it to another incident she had been to and _ it to another incident she had been to and the — it to another incident she had been to and the only thing i could think of was _ to and the only thing i could think of was the — to and the only thing i could think of was the block was probably getting — of was the block was probably getting renovated, was that that scaffolding was burning. i had to approach — scaffolding was burning. i had to approach the block and i approached it down— approach the block and i approached it down a _ approach the block and i approached it down a walkway and i remember walking _ it down a walkway and i remember walking down the walkway, and i turned _ walking down the walkway, and i turned the corner and the block was in front_ turned the corner and the block was in front and — turned the corner and the block was in front and i— turned the corner and the block was in front and i could not believe what _ in front and i could not believe what i — in front and i could not believe what i was _ in front and i could not believe what i was seeing. the walkway
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shielded — what i was seeing. the walkway shielded you, notjust what i was seeing. the walkway shielded you, not just from the view, _ shielded you, not just from the view, but — shielded you, not just from the view, but also the noise, you could hear— view, but also the noise, you could hear the _ view, but also the noise, you could hear the roar— view, but also the noise, you could hearthe roar in view, but also the noise, you could hear the roar in the crackle of the burning. — hear the roar in the crackle of the burning, the crashing of the debris hitting _ burning, the crashing of the debris hitting the — burning, the crashing of the debris hitting the ground, i could not believe — hitting the ground, i could not believe what i was seeing, i had never— believe what i was seeing, i had never seen _ believe what i was seeing, i had never seen anything or experienced anything _ never seen anything or experienced anything like that before. it never seen anything or experienced anything like that before.— anything like that before. it was very disturbing. _ anything like that before. it was very disturbing. it _ anything like that before. it was very disturbing. it was - anything like that before. it was very disturbing. it was the - anything like that before. it was| very disturbing. it was the job of yourjunior colleagues, if i can put it like that, the firefighters, to go in the tower and rescue people and some of them did that. you will have heard at the public inquiry, some criticism of the fire service, and the former head of the london fire brigade, told the inquiry she would not have changed anything about the way the service responded to the fire. ,, about the way the service responded to the fire. i. . about the way the service responded to the fire. , ., . to the fire. do you agree with her? i totally understand _ to the fire. do you agree with her? i totally understand what _ to the fire. do you agree with her? i totally understand what she - to the fire. do you agree with her? i totally understand what she said l i totally understand what she said and how _ i totally understand what she said and how she said it, dany cotton was and how she said it, dany cotton was a nruch _ and how she said it, dany cotton was a nruch loved — and how she said it, dany cotton was a much loved chief officer of the london — a much loved chief officer of the london fire brigade, fire crews had a great _ london fire brigade, fire crews had a great deal of respect for her. i think— a great deal of respect for her. i think what— a great deal of respect for her. i think what she actually meant was,
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she would — think what she actually meant was, she would not have changed the effort, _ she would not have changed the effort, from all the crews that attended, some of the cruise were risking _ attended, some of the cruise were risking their lives. the safety procedures we had in place to go into high—rise fires, we just threw them _ into high—rise fires, we just threw them at _ into high—rise fires, we just threw them at the — into high—rise fires, we just threw them at the window and these people went op. _ them at the window and these people went up, men and women, firefighters and junior— went up, men and women, firefighters and junior officers went up there with the — and junior officers went up there with the intention of doing the best 'ob with the intention of doing the best job they— with the intention of doing the best job they could. in hindsight, of course — job they could. in hindsight, of course we _ job they could. in hindsight, of course we would have done something different. _ course we would have done something different. if— course we would have done something different, if we knew that lethality of the _ different, if we knew that lethality of the changes they had made it to the block. — of the changes they had made it to the block, by putting flammable cladding on the outside, extending the windows and putting plaster —— michaet— the windows and putting plaster —— michael plastic flammable plastic on the windows, if we knew how lethal that block— the windows, if we knew how lethal that block was going to be, we would have done _ that block was going to be, we would have done it differently straightaway. there would have been nothing. _ straightaway. there would have been nothing, just get people out.
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whenever the external fire burned, it went _ whenever the external fire burned, it went straight into the block, from _ it went straight into the block, from the — it went straight into the block, from the 11th floor, 12 for, to the 20 second, — from the 11th floor, 12 for, to the 20 second, in and every floor, every flat was— 20 second, in and every floor, every flat was a _ 20 second, in and every floor, every flat was a tie. — 20 second, in and every floor, every flat was a lie, it was impossible task _ flat was a lie, it was impossible task. would we have done something different? _ task. would we have done something different? of course we would. is different? of course we would. [s that in different? of course we would. that in your different? of course we would. is that in your mind, does not play on you? that in your mind, does not play on ou? ~ . that in your mind, does not play on ou? ~ , , ., you? when i turned up, senior officers made _ you? when i turned up, senior officers made the _ you? when i turned up, senior officers made the decisions, . you? when i turned up, senior- officers made the decisions, there were _ officers made the decisions, there were things i missed and that plays on my— were things i missed and that plays on my mind continually. like were things i missed and that plays on my mind continually.— on my mind continually. like what, for example? _ on my mind continually. like what, for example? whenever _ on my mind continually. like what, for example? whenever we - on my mind continually. like what, for example? whenever we got, i on my mind continually. like what, i for example? whenever we got, when on my mind continually. like what, - for example? whenever we got, when i first not for example? whenever we got, when i first got there — for example? whenever we got, when i first got there i — for example? whenever we got, when i first got there i was _ for example? whenever we got, when i first got there i was on _ for example? whenever we got, when i first got there i was on the _ for example? whenever we got, when i first got there i was on the west - first got there i was on the west side, _ first got there i was on the west side, there _ first got there i was on the west side, there was a lot of debris around, — side, there was a lot of debris around, if— side, there was a lot of debris around, if you could have got an aerial— around, if you could have got an aerial appliance in there, wherever we got _ aerial appliance in there, wherever we got water to on the external face, _ we got water to on the external face, it— we got water to on the external face, it held the fire back. i should _ face, it held the fire back. i should have got people to cut down
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the block. — should have got people to cut down the block, but i was told we could not let _ the block, but i was told we could not let the — the block, but i was told we could not let the appliance in. i think we could _ not let the appliance in. i think we could have, — not let the appliance in. i think we could have, perhaps, when i was inside, _ could have, perhaps, when i was inside, my— could have, perhaps, when i was inside, my responsibility was as guidance — inside, my responsibility was as guidance coordinator, with two of the watch — guidance coordinator, with two of the watch managers, could we have thought _ the watch managers, could we have thought more and done more with the operational— thought more and done more with the operational cruise and officers sending — operational cruise and officers sending up the cruise? personally, i think— sending up the cruise? personally, i think we _ sending up the cruise? personally, i think we could have. it got to the stage _ think we could have. it got to the stage in— think we could have. it got to the stage in the night were i think it was six — stage in the night were i think it was six or— stage in the night were i think it was six or seven o'clock in the morning — was six or seven o'clock in the morning and i was left holding a list, morning and i was left holding a list. itits— morning and i was left holding a list, bits of paper, there was a floor. — list, bits of paper, there was a floor. flat, _ list, bits of paper, there was a floor, flat, and the number of people — floor, flat, and the number of people involved. iwasjust floor, flat, and the number of people involved. i wasjust left hotding — people involved. i wasjust left holding them and one of the officers from the _ holding them and one of the officers from the crews, i asked how we were getting _ from the crews, i asked how we were getting on. _ from the crews, i asked how we were getting on, and they said they had not been _ getting on, and they said they had not been able to get up for quite a
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white _ not been able to get up for quite a while. every person on the pieces of paper— while. every person on the pieces of paper were — while. every person on the pieces of paper were above where they could -et paper were above where they could get up _ paper were above where they could get up there. that was a horrible experience — get up there. that was a horrible experience to know your holding... hotding _ experience to know your holding... holding their lives in your hands. it holding their lives in your hands. it was _ holding their lives in your hands. it was devastating. it was around half past — it was devastating. it was around half past seven we contacted our control, — half past seven we contacted our control, the main control, they were deatingm _ control, the main control, they were dealing... they were actually on the phones _ dealing... they were actually on the phones to— dealing... they were actually on the phones to people... i contacted them and asked _ phones to people... i contacted them and asked and i was told that all the tines — and asked and i was told that all the lines had then gone dead and it was my— the lines had then gone dead and it was my responsibility to walk over to the _ was my responsibility to walk over to the officer in charge of the crews — to the officer in charge of the crews and _ to the officer in charge of the crews and say that they were shutting _ crews and say that they were shutting down. they were asking why and i shutting down. they were asking why and i had _ shutting down. they were asking why and i had to— shutting down. they were asking why and i had to say that there are no more _ and i had to say that there are no more phone — and i had to say that there are no more phone calls, they had all gone dead and _ more phone calls, they had all gone dead and i_ more phone calls, they had all gone dead and i was still holding pieces of paper — dead and i was still holding pieces of paper. it was devastating. thank
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ou for of paper. it was devastating. thank you for talking _ of paper. it was devastating. thank you for talking to _ of paper. it was devastating. thank you for talking to us _ of paper. it was devastating. thank you for talking to us today. - of paper. it was devastating. thank you for talking to us today. who . of paper. it was devastating. truana; you for talking to us today. who are you for talking to us today. who are you thinking about today? ijust you for talking to us today. who are you thinking about today? i 'ust met one of the survivor * you thinking about today? i 'ust met one of the survivor said _ you thinking about today? i 'ust met one of the survivor said it h you thinking about today? ijust met one of the survivor said it was - one of the survivor said it was heartbreaking. i am looking around here and _ heartbreaking. i am looking around here and seeing the murals and you can see _ here and seeing the murals and you can see the — here and seeing the murals and you can see the grief and hurt still here — can see the grief and hurt still here i— can see the grief and hurt still here i am _ can see the grief and hurt still here. i am thinking about the survivors _ here. i am thinking about the survivors. friends of mine suffered, we knew _ survivors. friends of mine suffered, we knew the — survivors. friends of mine suffered, we knew the risks turning up, that was our— we knew the risks turning up, that was ourioh, — we knew the risks turning up, that was ourjob, some of them got injured. — was ourjob, some of them got injured, mentally got injured, some of them _ injured, mentally got injured, some of them were physically injured, but we can cope with that, in my mind i can cope with that, what i cannot cope _ can cope with that, what i cannot cope with — can cope with that, what i cannot cope with is _ can cope with that, what i cannot cope with is seeing the survivors, that is— cope with is seeing the survivors, that is appalling and devastating. five years — that is appalling and devastating. five years on, for them still not to know— five years on, for them still not to know what— five years on, for them still not to know what is— five years on, for them still not to know what is going on, i cannot imagine — know what is going on, i cannot imagine what is going through their heads _ imagine what is going through their heads today. imagine what is going through their heads today-— heads today. thank you for talking to us. heads today. thank you for talking to us- thank _ heads today. thank you for talking to us. thank you. _ heads today. thank you for talking to us. thank you. we _ heads today. thank you for talking to us. thank you. we will - heads today. thank you for talking to us. thank you. we will be - heads today. thank you for talking l to us. thank you. we will be talking to us. thank you. we will be talking to people throughout the day here on
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bbc news who were affected by this catastrophic fire. remembering those who died and asking what has changed since we learned that the public inquiry of the failings by multiple firms and organisations who cut corners to save money, who sold cladding that they knew was flammable and sold insulation from combustible plastic, claiming it had passed fire safety test when it had not. there will be a service at westminster abbey, not. there will be a service at westminsterabbey, it not. there will be a service at westminster abbey, it is probably happening right now and at four o'clock this afternoon there is a multi—faith vigil in front of grenfell tower and then at six o'clock, the silent walk. thank you. and to your guests as well. back to our top story — the first flight taking asylum seekers to rwanda will leave from an undisclosed location in the uk this evening, after campaigners lost a court battle to prevent it. dozens of asylum seekers were originally due to be on the flight, but most won appeals against deportation. it's not know how many people will be on tonight's flight,
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but it's thought to be about 7 or 8 people. i'm joined now by nick dearden, director of the globaljustice now organisation. it describes itself as a democratic social justice it describes itself as a democratic socialjustice organisation, working social justice organisation, working as socialjustice organisation, working as part of a global movement to challenge the powerful and create a more just and equal challenge the powerful and create a morejust and equal world. welcome. thank you forjoining us. just outline very quickly what your main points of concern are about the flights. points of concern are about the fli . hts. , , points of concern are about the flirhts. , , ., flights. these flights for me represent — flights. these flights for me represent a _ flights. these flights for me represent a complete - flights. these flights for me - represent a complete inhumanity on the part of government. you know, they are notjust numbers, these are people who are fleeing the most horrendous circumstances, they have been to hell and back and the idea that we as a country are forcing them to undergo another stage of trauma, of uncertainty, which will
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all exacerbate their suffering, i just think it is so wrong and what makes it even worse, in many ways, is the reason the government is doing this is that it is desperate to distract people from the covid shenanigans, it is desperate to divert our attention. i shenanigans, it is desperate to divert our attention.— divert our attention. i am 'ust aroin to divert our attention. i am 'ust going to come in, i divert our attention. i am 'ust going to come in, that h divert our attention. i am just going to come in, that issue i divert our attention. i am just - going to come in, that issue going into the realms of speculation about what you think is the motivation, in terms of what the government says, the foreign secretary says it is not the foreign secretary says it is not the government who is immoral, but the government who is immoral, but the people traffickers and she says, critics should come up with an alternative policy that will work, because she is concerned about the impact on these vulnerable people of the people traffickers. unfortunately, successive u nfortu nately, successive governments in unfortunately, successive governments in this country have created that industry because we provide no safe routes through which people can claim asylum in this country, they have an international right to do that, they have an international right when they are fleeing from persecution, war and conflict and many of those complex of which our government has created,
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by the way... if it of which our government has created, by the way- - -— by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused _ by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on _ by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on how _ by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on how to _ by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on how to is - by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on how to is fix - by the way... if it is ok, i want to stay focused on how to is fix the l stay focused on how to is fix the problem, it is an issue that 10,000 people so far this year have come across the channel, often on very rickety rafts, putting their lives at risk, how do you address that situation. , , ., ., . ., situation. they should not have to do that. situation. they should not have to do that- we _ situation. they should not have to do that. we need _ situation. they should not have to do that. we need safe, _ situation. they should not have to do that. we need safe, legal- situation. they should not have to do that. we need safe, legal and| do that. we need safe, legal and open routes through which people can come here and claim asylum and they do not have that. it is not going to put people off. the fact that people are prepared to risk their lives should tell you something about the situation they are fleeing. it is not going to deter them, if we make it more difficult or send them to even poorer countries and the ones they are coming from, we need to stand up for they are coming from, we need to stand upfor our they are coming from, we need to stand up for our international responsibilities, people have a right to claim asylum, particularly when they are fleeing from situations we have created. it is shocking that we are treating people like this and we are seen it is
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perfectly 0k to ship people back, a handful of people and a half £1 million fight to ship them back to poorer countries because we have no room here. it is completely untrue and i think the british public are more welcoming and compassionate than the government and they need to stand up and say, you're not doing this in our name.— stand up and say, you're not doing this in our name. there has already been a lot of— this in our name. there has already been a lot of legal— this in our name. there has already been a lot of legal scrutiny - this in our name. there has already been a lot of legal scrutiny of - this in our name. there has already been a lot of legal scrutiny of this l been a lot of legal scrutiny of this situation. the high courtjudge who looked at it and said that the flight should be allowed to go ahead, there was a material public interest in allowing the secretary of state to be able to implement immigration control decisions and he said some of the risks of sending asylum seekers to rwanda outlined by the claimants are very small and in the claimants are very small and in the realms of speculation. the home secretary also points out that in terms of the overarching legality of the flights, individuals will still be able to mount a legal challenges and have their individual cases looked at. and have their individual cases looked at— and have their individual cases
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looked at. ~ ., . , looked at. well, unfortunately, we have a really _ looked at. well, unfortunately, we have a really broken _ looked at. well, unfortunately, we have a really broken system - looked at. well, unfortunately, we have a really broken system when| looked at. well, unfortunately, we. have a really broken system when it comes to people having their claims accepted. it is becoming more and more difficult and i, as much as anyone else, do not want people to be crossing the channel in really dangerous, rickety votes, pay money to people smugglers, i do not want that. but if the only alternative is to provide people with a safe way of claiming asylum here... ijust to provide people with a safe way of claiming asylum here. . ._ claiming asylum here... i 'ust asked ou about claiming asylum here... i 'ust asked you about what * claiming asylum here... i 'ust asked you about what has _ claiming asylum here... i 'ust asked you about what has been _ claiming asylum here... ijust asked you about what has been happening j claiming asylum here... ijust asked i you about what has been happening in terms of the process, the legality, and what a judge has said around being in the public interest for this to be able to continue to unfold currently.— this to be able to continue to unfold currently. this to be able to continue to unfold currentl . ., ., . , unfold currently. how on earth is it in the public _ unfold currently. how on earth is it in the public interest _ unfold currently. how on earth is it in the public interest for _ unfold currently. how on earth is it in the public interest for us - unfold currently. how on earth is it in the public interest for us to - in the public interest for us to ship people who are fleeing conflict to a lower income country, where they are suffering and their trauma is only going to be exacerbated? i do not understand how that is in the public interest and we will continue arguing in the courts that we do not believe that britain is standing by its international obligations and it is simply not right to treat people
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like this. thank you very much for joining us. let like this. thank you very much for joining us— like this. thank you very much for 'oinin: us. , .. . , joining us. let us catch up with the weather. joining us. let us catch up with the weather- the _ joining us. let us catch up with the weather. the weather _ joining us. let us catch up with the weather. the weather today - joining us. let us catch up with the weather. the weather today is - weather. the weather today is similar to yesterday except for england and wales, there will be more sunshine around and it will be warmer. having said that we will see fair weather cloud develop and that will melt away through the course of the afternoon. for northern ireland and scotland, a bit more cloud, some outbreaks of rain, but the rain not particularly heavy and temperatures 13 - 25 particularly heavy and temperatures 13 — 25 degrees. as we head through the evening and overnight, more cloud and rain spell in across northern ireland and scotland, the rain moving swiftly towards the north—east and we will have clear skies across england and also wales. these are the overnight lows, 8—12 . we start tomorrow with this clear skies, meaning sunshine across much of england and wales, we will see all this cloud across england and scotland, breaking at times,
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allowing it to brighten up, there will be showery breaks of rain, but that habit arranges 13—27. this is bbc news. the headlines... final legal challanges by asylum seekers are being heard today before the first flight due to take migrants from the uk to rwanda as part of a new government policy. what is happening with the attempt to undermine the rwanda policy is that they are, i'm afraid, undermining everything that we're trying to do to support safe and legal routes for people to come to the uk. this is about people who have the film this is about people who have the right to _ this is about people who have the right to seek asylum in the uk and to have _ right to seek asylum in the uk and to have their asylum case processed and determined here.
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scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, launches a campaign for independence. it is time to set out- a different and better vision. it is time to talk about making scotland wealthier and fairer. i it is time to talk abouti independence and then to make the choice. an independent panel has said snp mp patrick grady should be suspended from parliament for breaching parliament's sexual misconduct policy. and remembering the victims of grenfell. five years on from the grenfell towerfire in london, where 72 people were killed, events are being held across the city. the government scraps a scheme that provided people with grants to help buy new electric cars.
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the first flight taking asylum seekers to rwanda will leave from an undisclosed location in the uk this evening after campaigners lost a court battle to prevent it. they had hoped to stop the plane taking off before a full hearing next month on whether the policy is lawful. once in rwanda, those sent there will get accommodation and support while the rwandan government considers their application and, if they are successful, they can stay in the country with up to five yea rs' access to education and support. but if their asylum claim is unsuccessful, they could face deportation from rwanda. dozens of asylum seekers were originally due to be on the flight but most won appeals against being sent to rwanda. it's not know how many people will be on tonight's flight, but it's thought to be about seven or eight people, and some of those have hearings today to determine whether they will be on board. the cost of chartering the boeing
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767 is estimated at about £500,000. the government says the flights are necessary to combat human trafficking gangs and deter dangerous channel crossings. opposition to the scheme has continued. the entire senior leadership of the church of england has protested in a letter published in the times. they say, "many are desperate people fleeing unspeakable horrors," and the letter goes on to add, "this immoral policy shames britain." vincent mcaviney reports. despite the government's publicity around its new policy, yesterday, 37 asylum seekers arrived on the kent coast. but they could face potential removal to rwanda because they've travelled from france, a safe country. this is the boeing 767 chartered by the home office to take the first group of asylum seekers on a one—way ticket to rwanda later today. the plane can carry around 200 on the a,095—mile journey, but only eight asylum seekers will be aboard, three of whom are in court in the next few hours, arguing to be removed from the flight.
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home secretary priti patel has long argued the policy is in the public interest, designed to deter unnecessary journeys from safe eu countries and thwart the criminal gangs charging for dangerous channel crossings. shame on you! the policy is, though, dividing public opinion, evidenced by these scenes outside the courts ofjustice yesterday, and the home office. some agree it's an effective way to deal with illegal migration. but for others, it's an unsafe and unlawful way to treat vulnerable people who are asking for sanctuary in the uk. the leaders of the church of england, including the archbishops of canterbury and york, have written an open letter, decrying it as an "immoral policy that shames britain." this isn't about rwanda. we'd take exactly the same view if britain was seeking to outsource its care for refugees, for asylum seekers, to any other third country. this is about people who have the right — a right established since the 1951 convention — to seek asylum
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in the uk and to have their asylum case processed and determined here. the policy is also attracting international attention. at the united nations in geneva yesterday, it was described as catastrophic. this is all wrong. this is all wrong, this deal, for so many different reasons. but the man who used to be in charge of britain's borders believes something has to be done to stop the ever increasing numbers being exploited by traffickers. there's 80 million - refugees around the world. according to unhcr, even more now, after ukrainians seeking _ resettlement in the western world. and i think there is an upper limit actually, to the number that - any country can take. in the rwandan capital, kigali, final preparations are under way at accommodation for those who do board this first flight. the uk government says the arrangement is a model the rest of the world could follow. but with further legal challenges in the coming weeks, there's a chance those relocated here might be given a return ticket
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to the united kingdom. vincent mcaviney, bbc news. earlier today, the prime minister spoke on his rwanda asylum policy before cabinet, restating his case, and said he will not be deterred amid legal bids to bring down the policy. with the attempt to undermine the rwanda policy is that they are, i'm afraid, undermining everything that we're trying to do to support safe and legal routes for people to come to the uk and to oppose the illegal and dangerous routes. that is what we are trying to do. that is the essence of our policy, and i think that what the criminal gangs are doing and what those who are effectively abetting the work of the criminal gangs are doing is undermining people's confidence in the safe and legal systems, undermining people's general acceptance of emigration, so my message to everybody today
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is that we are not going to be in any way deterred or abashed by some of the criticism that is being directed upon this policy, some of it from slightly unexpected quarters, we are going to get on and deliver. we are hearing that one of those remaining detainees has failed in their attempt to avoid being put on board later tonight. mr their attempt to avoid being put on board later tonight.— board later tonight. mrjustice swift told the _ board later tonight. mrjustice swift told the high _ board later tonight. mrjustice swift told the high court, - board later tonight. mrjustice i swift told the high court, despite evidence from the claimant, that he had mental health problems and had a relationship with someone settled in the uk, the public interest at this stage allowed for his removal to go ahead. the claimant arrived earlier this year and had told the home office he had been a victim of human trafficking or modern day slavery, officials found those claims were unfounded, the home secretary has also signed an order that the man
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has no grounds to avoid removal to rwanda and human rights grounds. so thatis rwanda and human rights grounds. so that is at least one of the seven or eight who were potentially going to be on that flight now confirmed, having failed in the legal attempt to remain in this country. for now, that one person at least will be on the flight and that means the flight will certainly be going off this evening, because the fairer —— foreign secretary was talking earlier about it being a point of principle that that flight takes off, and when she spoke this morning it was unclear about whether there would even be anybody scheduled to go on it following on from the appeals, but we do now know that at least one detainee has failed in the attempt to avoid being put on board. let's speak now to our political correspondent, nick eardley.
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now with us is mike wood, conservative mp for dudley south. is that value for money? it's important — is that value for money? it's important these _ is that value for money? it�*s important these flights start, parliament legislated earlier this year to allow for processing in save third countries, the prime minister unveiled this a couple of months ago, the agreement with rwanda, and i think this is a very important step in helping to tackle the evil people smuggling gangs in the current broken asylum system which it sustains and fans. is current broken asylum system which it sustains and fans.— it sustains and fans. is purpose of this -oli it sustains and fans. is purpose of this policy purely _ it sustains and fans. is purpose of this policy purely deterrent? it's l this policy purely deterrent? it's laroel this policy purely deterrent? it�*s largely deterrent, of course, but it's also about making sure that, where people are seeking to come to a different country, they have obviously come through mainland
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europe before getting onto the small boats on the back of lorries, but that we can make sure that there is a safe place for them to build new lives, whether they are motivated by wanting better economic conditions, we think we can deliver that in rwanda, and we can certainly ensure safety for whatever difficulties are motivating people to come and put their lives at risk in the lives of these gangs. their lives at risk in the lives of these gangs-— their lives at risk in the lives of these trans. . , , , these gangs. and presumably you would accept _ these gangs. and presumably you would accept that _ these gangs. and presumably you would accept that the _ these gangs. and presumably you would accept that the motivation l these gangs. and presumably you | would accept that the motivation is strong for those people who are coming to this country via pretty dangerous routes?— dangerous routes? often, these -eo . le dangerous routes? often, these people have _ dangerous routes? often, these people have paid _ dangerous routes? often, these people have paid many - dangerous routes? often, these i people have paid many thousands of pounds, in some cases life savings, to try to get these gangs to smuggle them half way around the world, across europe. i think they're
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actually this agreement with rwanda hopes to break the model that those gangs rely upon. you hopes to break the model that those gangs rely upon-— gangs rely upon. you 'ust acknowledged i gangs rely upon. you 'ust acknowledged there i gangs rely upon. you just acknowledged there that l gangs rely upon. you just i acknowledged there that people potentially spend all their life savings to try to come to this country by very difficult routes, so what deterrent effect do you think it would have just somebody who is that desperate when they see that flight is going off with potentially a handful of people against the backdrop of 10,000 people coming to this country already this year via that route?— this country already this year via that route? , ., , , , , that route? obviously, this is the first flight- _ that route? obviously, this is the first flight. there _ that route? obviously, this is the first flight. there will _ that route? obviously, this is the first flight. there will be - first flight. there will be subsequent flights and many more people in them. we have not succeeded in the court of appeal yesterday to try and stop the flights, so i think we will see more and more flights for people who have come to the uk outside the
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immigration and asylum rule since the start of this year on flights to rwanda, and i do think that takes away almost all of that incentive for people to spend their life savings, risk their lives, thinking that they will come to britain. what we're doing is actually setting them in safe and secure homes in rwanda where they can get the support, they can start to build a new life. that does take away a lot of the attraction and investment and the incentive to put your life and life savings into the hands of these people smuggling gangs. this savings into the hands of these people smuggling gangs. this is a case that you _ people smuggling gangs. this is a case that you may _ people smuggling gangs. this is a case that you may well _ people smuggling gangs. this is a case that you may well have i people smuggling gangs. this is a case that you may well have read | case that you may well have read about, an iranian policeman, his real name is not being used. i
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wanted to discuss them with you. it is a case that has been put out there in relation to this flight, he was due to be on this flight, he has been told he won't be. he escaped as country after he was arrested for refusing to shoot a peaceful he says he was psychologically tortured and spent 97 days in solitary confinement and was sentenced to five years for acting against national security, five years for acting against nationalsecurity, he five years for acting against national security, he finally arrived it on a dinghy after a treacherous journey, arrived it on a dinghy after a treacherousjourney, seeking arrived it on a dinghy after a treacherous journey, seeking asylum, because he came to this country on that way he is deemed an illegal migrant, do you believe that is the right approach for somebody like that? �* ., ., ., that? i'm not familiar with the details of _ that? i'm not familiar with the details of this _ that? i'm not familiar with the details of this particular i that? i'm not familiar with the details of this particular case, | that? i'm not familiar with the i details of this particular case, but it is long established by successive british governments that actually we do expect people to claim asylum in the first safe country when they come through, that was certainly the
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position of the previous labour government and the position that most of my constituents expect to be the case, so people who come to the uk from france... the case, so people who come to the ukfrom france... i the case, so people who come to the uk from france. . ._ uk from france... i have to interrupt — uk from france... i have to interrupt you _ uk from france... i have to interrupt you because i uk from france... i have to interrupt you because we . uk from france... i have to i interrupt you because we need to uk from france... i have to - interrupt you because we need to say goodbye to viewers watching us on bbc two, thank you for your company, goodbye, have a good afternoon. thank you very much indeed for your time. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, has launched a fresh referendum campaign and says the country today is even more prepared for independence. the first minister made the speech, unveiling the first in a series of new papers setting out the case for change. ms sturgeon says it will be a scene setter which will compare scotland and the uk with other european countries and set out why the scottish government believes the country would be better off independent.
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do we type to uk economic model? or doubly instead lift our eyes with hope and optimism, and take inspiration from comparable countries across europe? comparable neighbouring countries with different characteristics, countries that in many cases lack the abundance of resources that scotland is blessed with. but all of them independent and, as we showed today, wealthier and fairer than the uk. our scotland correspondent lorna gordon is at bute house. so the start of a concerted push for another referendum and independence. the firing of a starting gun. it is
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eight years since the first independence referendum. and today the first in what nicola sturgeon has described as the set of scene setting papers, there will be others in currency, defence, social security and pensions and other issues to follow in the weeks and months ahead. but today a wider argument where nicola sturgeon said that scotland is being held back because it's part of the united kingdom, arguing that scotland has great advantages in huge potential, and comparing the performance of the united kingdom and scotland against ten european countries, arguing that scotland would be much better able to cope with the cost of living crisis should it be independent. interestingly, though, of course these are all going to be papers that deal with the arguments for independence. there is as much interest in how a second... holding
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a second referendum will be reached, the process, if you like, and the first minister touched on that in her comments in the last hour or so that she made behind me at bute house. she accepted that the competency of the scottish government is contested in this issue, she said the scottish government has an overwhelming mandate to hold a second independence referendum, that pro—independence majority made up of the snp and green msps. and she said that for the legality of a second independence referendum to be beyond doubt, they would need to hold a referendum without what's called a section 30 order, that is piece of legislation, which enables the scottish government to hold a second referendum. it's granted by the uk government at westminster. she said that the legality to be beyond
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doubt, they would need a section 30 order, but she said they must forge ahead if necessary without a section 30 order, the implication seems to be that she believes there is a way to hold a second referendum without this enabling legislation. of course, there is still a bill to be presented at the scottish parliament. it's likely any bill that would pass... it's how legal any second referendum would be, were it to be held, and the timeframe for that, the timeframe she would like, is before the end of next year but she seemed to suggest that she thinks there is a way through, and she said she would present an update on this issue the scottish parliament, how they would deal with this difficulty, over the next few weeks. . ~ this difficulty, over the next few weeks. . ,, , .,
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this difficulty, over the next few weeks. ., ~' ,, �* , this difficulty, over the next few weeks. . ,, i. �* , . weeks. thank you. burnley have hired vincent kompany _ weeks. thank you. burnley have hired vincent kompany as _ weeks. thank you. burnley have hired vincent kompany as their— weeks. thank you. burnley have hired vincent kompany as their next - vincent kompany as their next manager. he has been in charge at the belgian side for two years, having led them to a third—place finish. burnley look to bounce back from relegation from the premier league and instant promotion from the championship. the former manchester united and chelsea chief executive peter kenyon is leading a consortium hoping to buy everton. the club's british—iranian owner, farhad moshiri, is known to be open to investment options around the funding of a new stadium. however, he has not ruled out selling equity stakes in the club. kenyon has worked on a number of deals in recent years and was linked with a potential bid for newcastle united before its saudi takeover. england, wales and scotland all play in the nations league this evening, while australia became the latest team to qualify for the world cup. the star man was definitely keeper andrew redmayne.
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he chose a unique way to try to save the penalties and you've got to give it to him, it worked! the 33—year—old has just three caps for australia, but was brought on specifically at the end for the penalty shootout against peru. happy feet, prompting millions of happy aussies back home, including this reporter! yeah! we're through! absolutely no impartiality from that person, but can you blame him?! that's australia fifth world cup qualification in a row. imagine if they win it! england need to hundred 90 to win the final day at trent bridge. it's a total orderfor
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the final day at trent bridge. it's a total order for england, the final day at trent bridge. it's a total orderfor england, who the final day at trent bridge. it's a total order for england, who will need to score over four runs an over in their running chase. follow it all live on test match special on radio 5live sports extra, with full text coverage and video clips on the bbc sport website. that's all the sport for now. it's five years since the fire at grenfell tower in west london — one of the uk's worst modern disasters. 72 people lost their lives. today, relatives of those who died, and survivors, are remembering their loved ones. victoria derbyshire reported on the fire five years ago and in the days and weeks afterwards and is there this morning. we are sitting on a beautifully carved bench at hope garden, a garden created by the community in the aftermath of grenfell, for people to wander in and meet friends
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and reflect, and the benches they are carved and dedicated to all the relatives and the bereaved, and there you can see the word justice carved, and everyone who died in the grateful tower fire. carved, and everyone who died in the gratefultowerfire. —— carved, and everyone who died in the grateful tower fire. —— grenfell. carved, and everyone who died in the gratefultowerfire. —— grenfell. i think the atmosphere here is really peaceful, people are reflecting on what happened five years ago, there is some raw emotion, as you would totally expect, there is also some controlled anger because many people have told me they don't have faith, that there will be prosecution ultimately for what happened at the fire, although some people really do have hope that that will happen. he is how the events unfolded five years ago, just to let you know the film does contain footage of the fire on the night, and you may find that upsetting. just before 1am onjune 1ath, 2017,
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a devastating fire broke out in the kitchen of a flat on the fourth floor of g re nfell tower. fire brigade? yeah. hello. there is a fire on flat 16, grenfell tower. how many floors have you got? it's the fourth floor. quick, quick! within minutes, it began to spread up the cladding on the outside of the 23—storey block. are you ok? some residents were told to stay in their flats by the emergency services. others ignored the stay put advice and made it down the stairs to safety. i spoke to some of them hours after they'd escaped. this was really horrific. there's people who were jumping. there's a man who threw two of his children.
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we saw a lot. we saw a lot, man. we saw a lot with our own eyes. we saw friends, families. honestly, it's all right. you don't have to say any any more. i'm so sorry. the final death toll is now recorded as 72. the youngest victim was six months old. the oldest, 8a. baby logan gomes, who was stillborn in hospital onjune 1ath, the morning after the fire, is also included. good morning, everybody. a public inquiry into the disaster is under way. phase one found that a previous refurbishment of the tower breached building regulations. it heard evidence that plastic material in the cladding was the main reason the flames spread.
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ring 999! will there be prosecutions? the metropolitan police is looking into offences including manslaughter, corporate manslaughter, misconduct in public office and breaches of fire safety regulations, but will wait until the public inquiry ends before passing any evidence to prosecutors. for relatives of those who died, for survivors, many say they are still waiting forjustice, five years on. and i would like to tell you about two of the people who died that night because that is why we are here, after all. ali yawarjafari lived on the 11th for the 16th years. he was a great
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man who looked after his family, his son told the public inquiry. he was most happy when he used to see his family come together. his happiest moment was when my son was born, they seemed connected to each other. when i hold my son, ifeel like i am holding my dad. and then there was a civil engineering student and former refugee who had come to the uk after fleeing the war in syria. he was 23 and he lived on the 13th floor with his brother, omar. muhammad became separated from omar as they try to escape. he returned to his flat, where he tried to call family members in syria, but he couldn't get through. i'm going to introduce you now to emma o'connor. she escaped from the 20th floor. who are you thinking about today?—
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you thinking about today? mainly our floor. and others on _ you thinking about today? mainly our floor. and others on the _ you thinking about today? mainly our floor. and others on the lower i floor. and others on the lower floors. mainly steve, we are massive people. floors. mainly steve, we are massive --eole. . floors. mainly steve, we are massive neale, ,., floors. mainly steve, we are massive --eole. _, ,, | floors. mainly steve, we are massive people-_ i had i people. tell us about steve. i had ouite a people. tell us about steve. i had quite a close _ people. tell us about steve. i had quite a close bond _ people. tell us about steve. i had quite a close bond with _ people. tell us about steve. i had quite a close bond with him i people. tell us about steve. i had i quite a close bond with him because of his three star fees. me and my partner had a stuffy. it took awhile for them to get used to each other, but it was nice, just speaking about normal stuff, what we call normal, dog people would just talk about dogs. j dog people would 'ust talk about dos. ~' ., dog people would 'ust talk about dois, ~' ., ., dog people would 'ust talk about dos. ~ ., ., . , . . dogs. i know! you actually managed to net dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down — dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down from _ dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down from the _ dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down from the 20th - dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down from the 20th floor- dogs. i know! you actually managed to get down from the 20th floor in l to get down from the 20th floor in the lift. how did you do that? i
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the lift. how did you do that? i pressed the button to go down, didn't really think that anything was serious, at least, my partner did not put it towards me to say that he is concerned, so we just pressed the button for the lift. and even though there was smoke on our floor at 1:20am, even though there was smoke on our floorat1:20am, i even though there was smoke on our floor at 1:20am, i still managed to keep a smile on my face, and then as soon as i got out into the lift lobby, it changed, but on the ground floor where all the firefighters were. �* , ., ., floor where all the firefighters were. �* ., ., were. and when you got out, did you look at the — were. and when you got out, did you look at the tower? _ were. and when you got out, did you look at the tower? we _ were. and when you got out, did you look at the tower? we did _ were. and when you got out, did you look at the tower? we did once i were. and when you got out, did you look at the tower? we did once we l look at the tower? we did once we not onto look at the tower? we did once we got onto the grass. _ look at the tower? we did once we got onto the grass. you _ look at the tower? we did once we got onto the grass. you don't i look at the tower? we did once we i got onto the grass. you don't expect to look up and see... at the time we
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got out, it was still in one position, it had not moved yet. to see it still be in one position was quite remarkable that it stayed that long. quite remarkable that it stayed that lono. ., . . long. you have said that the aftermath — long. you have said that the aftermath of _ long. you have said that the aftermath of the _ long. you have said that the aftermath of the fire - long. you have said that the aftermath of the fire has i long. you have said that the l aftermath of the fire has been long. you have said that the i aftermath of the fire has been so much worse than the actual fire itself. explain why you say that. just mainly sirens, and not being able to look at a tower block any different. ijust look at able to look at a tower block any different. i just look at them and say, is this the next grenfell? my heart goes out to the firefighters that go in, day and night, willingly putting in that uniform, knowing
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that they could call out to the next grenfell. they should not have to have that fear, they should not be the ones... they should not be the only ones... they should not be supporting us, but they do because they are affected by it, and it makes them part of the community because they were there on the night. they have been there since day one. and we love them. i personally love them to bits. in personally love them to bits. in june 2020, the prime minister boris johnson said, we are working to implement every recommendation made by the first phase of the inquiry. and to be fair to the government, a lot of the recommendations are in
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progress, the london fibre brigade have implemented many, and more will be implemented next year when a fire safety order is placed, this is the official language, placed in parliament in the autumn. but they have rejected one of the recommendations, despite saying they were working to implement them all, which was that all disabled tenants should be given personal evacuation plans in the event of a fire. you have arthritis, you use crutches, you have other medical conditions, what do you think of the fact that that has been rejected? it is just it isjust more it is just more empty promises, really. this coming from a government that smiled and cheers about not giving a firefighter is a pay rise, but they give themselves a pay rise, but they give themselves a pay rise. i would like to see them go through a day in the life of a
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firefighter, because you could get called to an rtc, a sheltered accommodation, it is a variety of the calls that they go to, but the most devastating of all is house fires. the numbers at the government came up with to shut as fire stations, i would like to meet them personally, who did those numbers? they do not add up. there have been more deaths from house fires them where they were more fire stations open. where they were more fire stations 0 en. ~ . where they were more fire stations oen, . ., ., where they were more fire stations oen. ~ ., ., ., open. what about the fact that there isn't a requirement _ open. what about the fact that there isn't a requirement for— open. what about the fact that there isn't a requirement for personal i isn't a requirement for personal evacuation plans for disabled tenants? it evacuation plans for disabled tenants? . . evacuation plans for disabled tenants? , . , tenants? it is a slap in the face, reall . it tenants? it is a slap in the face, really- it is _ tenants? it is a slap in the face, really. it is like _ tenants? it is a slap in the face, really. it is like they're - tenants? it is a slap in the face, | really. it is like they're punishing me for being disabled and for every other disabled person in the world. we shouldn't have price tags on our lives. ~ . they say is that it would be down to
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landlords to come up with those plans, but it would be voluntary. it plans, but it would be voluntary. it isjust passing plans, but it would be voluntary. it is just passing the plans, but it would be voluntary. it isjust passing the buck because is just passing the buck because they don't want the publicity. 15 of they don't want the publicity. 15 of the 37 disabled _ they don't want the publicity. 15 of the 37 disabled residents of grenfell tower died, 18 children we know, how do you reflect on that? every year, especially at the base and on the... every year, especially at the base and on the- - -_ every year, especially at the base and on the... sorry, one second... you don't — and on the... sorry, one second... you don't need _ and on the... sorry, one second... you don't need to _ and on the... sorry, one second... you don't need to apologise. it i you don't need to apologise. it could be my name that they are reading out. with survivor's gilts, you always ask yourself the question
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of why did i escape? but everyone says i escaped for a reason and is, that reason is more than likely that we are here to see change. even if they continue to drag their feet, this government needs shaking up. you need to step up and stand by us and stop blaming the fire brigade. you are the one that controls the fire brigade. give them funding. they are telling you what they need and get you continuously cut them. during the pandemic they have been out driving the london ambulances. just to help them. they weren't asking for more money, yet you gave
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asking for more money, yet you gave a pitiful raise to the amazing nhs staff stop at nothing to do firefighters. even police officers were helping the london ambulance service. there are still doing it. never say sorry, ever. thank you very much, emma. thank you for talking to us. emma o'connor. we are showing you pictures from the service that is being held at westminster abbey, from earlier today, where some survivors and relatives of those who died went to pay their respects. i was talking to people earlier and they said it is so important for them that they have a multi—faith element to today because there were so many people of different faiths at grenfell tower.
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we will talk to more people throughout the afternoon here on bbc news who will reflect on what happened five years ago. let me bring you some news from the courts. we are hearing that the supreme court has ruled that the first flight to take migrants arriving illegally in britain to rwanda can go ahead. judges have dismissed the attempts of campaigners to get an injunction to stop it. charities anti—trade union had launched a fresh appeal against the government does not plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda after both the high court and court of appeal said the first flights can take place. now the supreme courtjudge has said it can go ahead and refused lawyers for the human rights groups
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are request to appeal against that decision. we also know that separately at the courts, at the high court, a judge has ruled that one of the remaining asylum detainees due to be put on that flight that will leave tonight has failed in an attempt avoid to being put on it. it is understood that seven or eight people are scheduled to be on that flight, various appeals are under way today, at least one of those asylum detainees have had that appeal against being put on the flight refused. as fun as hot temperatures can be for some, many are grappling with how to cope with spain's earliest heatwave in more than a0 years, with temperatures surpassing 43 celsius, or 140 fahrenheit, in parts of central and southern spain.
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a cloud of hot air from north africa has sent temperatures soaring, with neighbouring france bracing itself for rising temperatures too. translation: we've had many more heatwaves after the 1980s _ than before. it is an enormous ratio of one to three, climatologists tell us, and we can see it. these heatwaves are likely to stretch through the season. decades ago, it happened mainly injuly and august. in spain, tourist hotspots seville and cordoba, are set to remain about 43 celsius, or 109 fahrenheit in the coming days. in the region of extremadura more than 100 schools have reduced their hours due to the heatwave, so that children can go home at midday.
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many parts of spain remain on alert for extreme temperatures over the coming days. joining us now is david howell from seo birdlife in madrid. thank you forjoining us. are you concerned about birdlife? yes. thank you forjoining us. are you concerned about birdlife? yes, of course. these _ concerned about birdlife? yes, of course. these extreme _ concerned about birdlife? yes, of course. these extreme heat i concerned about birdlife? yes, of. course. these extreme heat events are notjust course. these extreme heat events are not just a course. these extreme heat events are notjust a problem for us as people with our temperature tolerances, but also for many forms of wildlife, vegetation, the fire risk and the heat stress are all major concerns for habitats and for species. we are especially concerned about the impact on wild birds. what about the impact on wild birds. what could the impacts _ about the impact on wild birds. what could the impacts be? _ about the impact on wild birds. what could the impacts be? something i about the impact on wild birds. what. could the impacts be? something that doesnt could the impacts be? something that doesn't occur — could the impacts be? something that doesn't occur so _ could the impacts be? something that doesn't occur so often _ could the impacts be? something that doesn't occur so often to _ could the impacts be? something that doesn't occur so often to people, i doesn't occur so often to people, for in spanish cities they have
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amazing populations of swifts, it is amazing populations of swifts, it is a lovely feature of the summer here in spain to see and hear them flying and screaming above your head. they nest in buildings and if we have an early heatwave, the fledgling is, to try and escape the heat, they try to fly before they can fly so they fall to the ground. we took in over a thousand swifts that were handed in by the public because they had fallen to the ground, that is just one example of how heatwave of this sort could affect wildlife, even in the middle of the cities.— of the cities. would you try to do an hino of the cities. would you try to do anything to _ of the cities. would you try to do anything to pre-emptively i of the cities. would you try to do | anything to pre-emptively protect anything to pre—emptively protect the swifts and any other wildlife, or do you just have to basically set and see what unfolds?—
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and see what unfolds? there are a number of — and see what unfolds? there are a number of elements _ and see what unfolds? there are a number of elements here. i and see what unfolds? there are a number of elements here. firstly, | number of elements here. firstly, with the building renovation wave, for energy efficiency motives, and also in general, the new building design, we could ensure that safe spaces for birds like swifts are incorporated into the building design, and we also have an awareness campaign for the public to ensure they know what to do if they find wild birds on the grounds. the other thing of course, well known to colleagues in the uk, is to have water available, to encourage people to put out water for birds in the cities. in the countryside, they really have to fend for themselves.
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we have had an exceptionally dry autumn, winter and spring, we have had an exceptionally dry autumn, winterand spring, so we have had an exceptionally dry autumn, winter and spring, so water levels are dropping, so water availability is reducing, this is also a concern. more generally, we as a conservation organisation have campaigned for much better use of water, less aggressive use of water in the irrigation sector, for example, and to be sure that we have enough water in the landscape for wildlife. . ~' enough water in the landscape for wildlife. . ~ , ., , enough water in the landscape for wildlife. . ~ , ., y . enough water in the landscape for wildlife. . , , ., , . wildlife. thank you very much, david howell. thank you very much, david howell. the department for transport has announced it's scrapping a grant scheme to encourage people to buy electric cars. the plug—in grant scheme, which was started in 2011, will be closed to new applicants from today, despite criticism from motoring associations which say the money is essential in helping drivers move away from petrol and diesel. the government says the money will be redirected into creating more charging points and supporting the purchase of other times of road vehicles.
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i'm joined now by the president of the aa, edmund king. welcome, thank you forjoining us. what do you think about scott —— stopping the scheme for cards? it stopping the scheme for cards? it certainly came as a shock to us. as i was driving my electrical vehicle to work this morning i heard this announcement. we had been led to believe that the grants would continue until next year, so we assumed april next year. just before christmas, the grants were cut to £1500, and the most expensive electric vehicle you could buy was up electric vehicle you could buy was up to £32,000, but cutting this grant at a time when we have record prices at the pumps and the government wants more people to go green, to switch to electric, just
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seems a bit of a backward step, really. seems a bit of a backward step, reall . ., , .. , seems a bit of a backward step, reall . ., , , , really. the government because my -oint is it really. the government because my point is it is — really. the government because my point is it is now _ really. the government because my point is it is now time _ really. the government because my point is it is now time to _ really. the government because my point is it is now time to switch i point is it is now time to switch the focus, not to stop that money, but to switch where it is targeted to refocus on what are some of the main barriers to the transition to electric vehicles, such as public charging, and also to support the purchase of other types of vehicles, vans, motorcycles and taxis. weill. vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed. but _ vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed. but it _ vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, but it is _ vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, but it is not _ vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, but it is not an _ vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, but it is not an either i vans, motorcycles and taxis. well, indeed, but it is not an either or. i indeed, but it is not an either or. we need infrastructure and we need to help people to get onto the electric vehicle ladder. currently, yes, electric vehicles are popular, but they just make yes, electric vehicles are popular, but theyjust make up 1.5% of all cars out there. there are about three quarters of a million pure electric vehicles. if we are to get to the targets that the committee on climate change suggest, something
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like 46% of cars should be electric vehicles by 2030, we are nowhere near that, therefore incentives are needed. electric vehicles are more expensive than regular cars, people are suffering from cost of living crisis, and it is not individuals only. it is also fleets. if a it was planning to put in an orderfor 100 electric vehicles next month, they will be way over £100,000 out of pockets and perhaps won't go ahead with that. that is quite important because if you get fleets to adopt the electric vehicles, after a year orso the electric vehicles, after a year or so they go on to the used car market and become more affordable for individuals. all in all, i think this really is a backward step. hagar this really is a backward step. how much of an — this really is a backward step. how much of an incentive _ this really is a backward step. how much of an incentive do you think £1500 has been in terms of putting it towards a car that cost £32,000?
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up it towards a car that cost £32,000? up to £32,000 is the top limits. people whose expenses are pushed, they have planned for this, but not courting their order by today, apparently if the order had already beenin apparently if the order had already been in and the car dealer has already put the grants in, you should be ok. some people were waiting because there are waiting lists on quite a few new electric vehicles, up to 12 months, so some people were waiting before putting in their order to save the supply increased. some of those people will be put off. we need a little bit more certainty. just to announce it today when perhaps people and police were thinking about buying next week, and with record prices at the pumps, just seems a bit backwards. thank you. thousands more railway workers
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are to be balloted for strikes in escalating disputes which threaten travel disruption this summer. more than 6,000 staff at network rail will be balloted in a dispute over pay, conditions and job security. members of the rmt union at network rail and 13 train operators are to strike for three days next week in similar disputes, which is expected to cause widespread disruption to services. new figures out this morning underline how pay is falling behind the cost of living in the uk. real pay, once inflation is taken into account, is declining at the fastest rate for over a decade. data from the office for national statistics found that in the period between february and april, average real wages, excluding bonuses, fell by 2.2% compared with a year earlier. public sector workers fared the worst with an average real wage fall of a.5%. in the private sector, average real wages fell by 1.6%. our economics correspondent andy verity says the high level ofjob vacancies should drive wage increases.
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we've got the tightest labour market we have seen in decades. by which i mean employers looking for people, vacancies are at a record number of 1.3 million, and yet in spite of that, pay is not keeping up with inflation. normally, if there is a lot of demand for workers, you would expect them to put up the pay and that has been happening. we've seen pay rises before inflation of a.2%. in the three months from february to april, comparing that to the year before, pay has gone up by a.2%. that is still not enough of course to keep up with elevated levels of inflation and that's why those figures you quoted earlier show a realfall in pay. in other words, when you take account of inflation, that is the amount of goods you can actually buy, that's gone down by 2.2%. now, those are three month figures. if you look at the more recent indicators of the figures from april this year, which is after the big bill rises and after the tax rises
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the government brought in at the same time, compare that with the year before and the picture is even worse. so you have pay going up by a.1%, that's a result of the fact employers really need the workers, but on the other hand because inflation is so elevated in april, it means that on average you are looking at a negative real terms pay fall of 3.a%. and if you're in the public sector, as you said, a a.5% fall on the three month number, but on the april to april number it's down by some 6% year—on—year. when you have got a recruitment crisis in public services, particularly in the nhs, and wages are lagging so far behind inflation, it's not going to help you to attract the staff you need if pay is falling in real terms. let me bring you some comments from downing street about that flight to rwanda that is scheduled to leave
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the uk later. we are hearing from the uk later. we are hearing from the downing street spokesperson that the downing street spokesperson that the first flight might not take off today because of the legal action, lots of legal action, in the courts today. the prime minister? spokesperson asked —— when asked said, with you know there are ongoing legal action is going on, so at this point it cannot be definitive. the supreme court has said that the flight should go ahead and refused lawyers who are fighting that leave to appeal. we also know that leave to appeal. we also know that one of the asylum detainees due to be on that flight has failed in an temp two avoid being put on board later tonight. that would mean at least one detainee is cleared to go on that flight, although it is not clear whether the claimants may yet try to launch another appeal against thatjudgment if there is time to do
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thatjudgment if there is time to do that today. so, the prime minister? spokesperson saying it is not guaranteed that the flight will take off. the official spokesperson defended the cost of the policy, after those claims that the flight would cost around half £1 million. the spokesperson was unable to comment on the costs, saying that the broader point is you know that the broader point is you know that the current approach to the taxpayer is over £1 billion already. we spent over £5 million a day accommodating asylum seekers and hotels in the uk, so this is about finding a long—term solution for a long—standing problem. the spokesman said, clearly it is up to individuals to voice their views as they see fit, but it is the responsibility of the government to find a solution to your problem that sees thousands of people make a dangerous crossing that puts lives at risk and only benefits criminal gangs, doing nothing is not an option for the
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government. so, at this point it is unclear whether the flight will take off. lots of legal action and we will keep you updated on all of the developments on that. let me just tell you that we are just hearing that patrick brady, the snp mp has just stood up in parliament with an apology. earlier on we heard that he had been criticised by an independent expert panel that was considering what should happen with him following on from allegations of a sexual assault. the panel had concluded that he should be suspended from the commons for two days for reaching parliament sexual misconduct policy. the panel said that he should also make a full and unreserved apology to the house via a personal statement, so we are
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hearing that he has now stood up, patrick brady, has stood up in parliament and given that apology. that just three. it's a0 years since the falklands war, which cost 255 british service personnel their lives. today is the anniversary of 'liberation day�* — the surrender of argentinian forces which brought the war to an end. john maguire has been speaking to three men who fought in the conflict. i was 16. invincible. i thought so. i kind of look at people around me now, who are a similar age, and i think, would you be able to do what we did then? we're going to war. we'll be fine. we'll be immortal. and then you find out that it's a whole different ballgame. archive: the falkland islands, the british colony in _ the south atlantic, has fallen.
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the government has now decided that a large task force will sail as soon as all preparations are complete. we didn't know where it was. we didn't know where the falklands... nobody had a clue where the falklands was whatsoever. i think i wrote to every single member of my family, and very apprehensive. very nervous. internally, very, very scared. but being, i'll saya man, but i wasn't, i was a boy, the pride wouldn't let me show that. archive: the task force, | with all its power, is ready. britain has gathered its might. it must set its course. i was handed a piece of paper. and it had "fill in the details." it was a reality check. so the older guys had already written wills. but me, as a 17—year—old, not a chance.
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archive: the british battery has kept up a constant barrage, i seeking out the enemy guns. hms sheffield lies sinking in the south atlantic on a day — may 4th, 1982 — that brought the reality of war into britain's dispute with argentina over the falkland islands. i'm not allowed to say how many planes joined the raid, but i counted them all out and i counted them all back. the pilots were unhurt, tearful and jubilant, giving thumbs up signs. 6th june, d—day of all days, i became 18. but overnight, on the 5th and 6th june, we were sent inland. we were sent close to land to do naval gunfire support. and that night we fired 277 4.5—inch shells. that was my 18th birthday. so, like, other people get firecrackers, i got 277 4.5—inch round bangs for my birthday.
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archive: out of a clear blue sky, without warning, five _ argentine skyhawks strike, i hitting sir galahad and her sister ship, sir tristram. when we got stuck in the corridor on galahad, i realised that i could die. a very nasty, horrible death. and... i wasn't immortal any more. i was very vulnerable. archive: ..davis read out the roll of those who'd died. _ phillip anthony sweet... 50 in all, the worst casualties of the whole campaign. bugle plays last post. get a lot memories at night. nightmares still. most nights seems like. the other night they were getting bad.
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i was sitting there. i woke up and i were screaming again. british legion riders branch, riding my motorbike. all those things help. right. gentlemen, i'vejust heard that the whitej flag is flying over stanley. - cheering. it's taken ten weeks since we left portsmouth, but this major objective has now been achieved. very proud that we went. it had to be done. we laid our lives down - to make sure somebody's ok. and i look back and i look at it with pride now — that i was able to to do something like that at such a young age. but, it's... i always look back and it's like a hell of a thing. hell of a thing. surrounded by immensely — people i'm extremely proud of.
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it's a wonderful feeling knowing that we've actually done summat that's going to have an impact on that island for such a long time. the heat and humidity will be writing —— writing for some, but not all of us across the uk. across northern ireland and scotland we will still have these suedes of cloud. finaltry will still have these suedes of cloud. final try for nz in wales, some clear spells, not quite as chilly as start as it was today. tomorrow, high pressure keeps us
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fine and dry for england and we are is. this is where we will see most of the sunshine, but also sunny spells emerging for eastern scotland and eastern areas of northern ireland, too. the pollen levels will rise here and it will feel warmer. as we head through into thursday and friday, this is where the hot and humid airwill friday, this is where the hot and humid air will rise from the south. temperatures remaining fairly stable. we could see 33 celsius somewhere north of london.
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borisjohnson insists his government won't be "deterred or abashed" by criticism of his asylum policy — with the first plane taking people to rwanda due to fly tonight. with up to eight people scheduled to be removed, borisjohnson told the cabinet the policy was aimed at tackling people—traffickers. we have had to work within the scope of common humanity and compassion, that's the right thing to do, but we have to interrupt the business model of the gangs. around 270 migrants are thought to have reached the uk by boat so far today. people in dover disagree about the rwanda plan. i think that's the best way to put them somewhere different. why is it rwanda's problem? if there's no way out for them from rwanda, i've got very.
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mixed feelings about it.

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