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i'm ros atkins. welcome to outside source. witnesses have told the committee investigating the storming of the capitol how former president trump tried to overturn the results of the election. strong, judicial quality evidence, anything that would say to me, " you have a doubts, deny your oath." i will not give that. it's the fourth hearing into the january 6 uprising at the capitol. we will listen as they play out. the other story playing out this hour is the biggest rail strike in the uk for generation, the action being led
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by rmt union. it has meant trains going out of service and millions of passengers going nowhere. my daughter's doing her gcses. i've got to get her to and from school, so it's a right pain in the neck. i understand they want a pay rise and things change, i get that, but it's not fair for all the commuters. we are going to primarily focus on the two stories this hour, the rail strike in the uk and the hearing in washington, which is where we are going to begin. we start in washington, where the committee investigating the storming of the capitol onjanuary 6 is holding another public hearing. today's focus is on pressure by former president donald trump and his team for individual us states to overturn the election results. central to this are two battleground states — arizona and georgia. joe biden won both by a razor—thin margin — and president trump has kept pushing
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false claims of electoral fraud. in opening statements, we heard from the republican vice—chair — liz cheney. donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them, he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point. i would urge all of those watching today the focus on the evidence the committee will present. don't be distracted by politics. this is serious. we cannot let america become a nation of conspiracy theories and thug violence. and this is another committee member, democratic congressman adam schiff. the president's ly was and is a dangerous— the president's ly was and is a dangerous cancer on the body politic — dangerous cancer on the body politic if _ dangerous cancer on the body politic. if you can convince americans that they cannot trust their own — americans that they cannot trust their own elections, that a time they— their own elections, that a time they lose, — their own elections, that a time they lose, it is somehow illegitimate, then what is left but
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violence — illegitimate, then what is left but violence to determine who should govern? _ as we mentioned, arizona is key to today's proceedings. remember, joe biden won that state by 0.4%. and the first witness we've been hearing from today is a top republican there — arizona house speaker rusty bowers. they said, we have heard via an official— they said, we have heard via an official high _ they said, we have heard via an official high up _ they said, we have heard via an official high up in— they said, we have heard via an official high up in the _ they said, we have heard via ani official high up in the republican legislature — official high up in the republican legislature that— official high up in the republican legislature that there _ official high up in the republican legislature that there is - official high up in the republican legislature that there is a - official high up in the republican legislature that there is a legal i legislature that there is a legal theory— legislature that there is a legal theory or— legislature that there is a legal theory or a _ legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal— legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal ability- legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal ability in - legislature that there is a legal. theory or a legal ability in arizona that you — theory or a legal ability in arizona that you can— theory or a legal ability in arizona that you can remove _ theory or a legal ability in arizona that you can remove the - theory or a legal ability in arizona that you can remove the elect- theory or a legal ability in arizonai that you can remove the elect tors of president — that you can remove the elect tors of president biden— that you can remove the elect tors of president biden and _ that you can remove the elect tors of president biden and replace - that you can remove the elect tors i of president biden and replace them, and we _ of president biden and replace them, and we would — of president biden and replace them, and we would like _ of president biden and replace them, and we would like to _ of president biden and replace them, and we would like to have _ of president biden and replace them, and we would like to have a - and we would like to have a legitimate _ and we would like to have a legitimate opportunity- and we would like to have a i legitimate opportunity through and we would like to have a - legitimate opportunity through to the committee _ legitimate opportunity through to the committee to _ legitimate opportunity through to the committee to come _ legitimate opportunity through to the committee to come to - legitimate opportunity through to the committee to come to that i legitimate opportunity through to i the committee to come to that and and remove — the committee to come to that and and remove that, _ the committee to come to that and and remove that, and _ the committee to come to that and and remove that, and i— the committee to come to that and and remove that, and i said, - the committee to come to that and and remove that, and i said, that'sj and remove that, and i said, that's totally— and remove that, and i said, that's totally new— and remove that, and i said, that's totally new to _ and remove that, and i said, that's totally new to me. _ and remove that, and i said, that's totally new to me. i— and remove that, and i said, that's totally new to me. i have - and remove that, and i said, that's totally new to me. i have never- totally new to me. i have never heard _ totally new to me. i have never heard of— totally new to me. i have never heard of any— totally new to me. i have never heard of any such _ totally new to me. i have never heard of any such thing. - heard of any such thing. and depressed _ heard of any such thing. and depressed that— heard of any such thing. and depressed that point, - heard of any such thing. and depressed that point, and ii
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heard of any such thing. and - depressed that point, and i said, look, _ depressed that point, and i said, look. you — depressed that point, and i said, look. you are _ depressed that point, and i said, look, you are asking _ depressed that point, and i said, look, you are asking me - depressed that point, and i said, look, you are asking me to - depressed that point, and i said, look, you are asking me to do i look, you are asking me to do something _ look, you are asking me to do something that _ look, you are asking me to do something that is _ look, you are asking me to do something that is counter- look, you are asking me to do something that is counter to i look, you are asking me to do . something that is counter to my oath, _ something that is counter to my oath, wheh _ something that is counter to my oath, when i _ something that is counter to my oath, when i swore _ something that is counter to my oath, when i swore to— something that is counter to my oath, when i swore to the - 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anything of such magnitude without deep consultation— anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with _ anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with qualified - deep consultation with qualified attorneys, — deep consultation with qualified attorneys, and _ deep consultation with qualified attorneys, and i— deep consultation with qualified attorneys, and i said, _ deep consultation with qualified attorneys, and i said, i've - deep consultation with qualified attorneys, and i said, i've got. deep consultation with qualified - attorneys, and i said, i've got some good _ attorneys, and i said, i've got some good attorneys, _ attorneys, and i said, i've got some good attorneys, and _ attorneys, and i said, i've got some good attorneys, and i'm _ attorneys, and i said, i've got some good attorneys, and i'm going - attorneys, and i said, i've got some good attorneys, and i'm going to i good attorneys, and i'm going to -ive good attorneys, and i'm going to give you — good attorneys, and i'm going to give you their— good attorneys, and i'm going to give you their names. _ good attorneys, and i'm going to give you their names. but - good attorneys, and i'm going to give you their names. but you'rej give you their names. but you're asking _ give you their names. but you're asking me — give you their names. but you're asking me to _ give you their names. but you're asking me to do _ give you their names. but you're asking me to do something - give you their names. but you're . asking me to do something against give you their names. but you're - asking me to do something against my oath and _ asking me to do something against my oath and i_ asking me to do something against my oath and i will— asking me to do something against my oath and i will not _ asking me to do something against my oath and i will not break _ asking me to do something against my oath and i will not break my— asking me to do something against my oath and i will not break my oath. - we have heard witnesses from arizona, also today from the state of georgia. it was also a close run thing in the 2020 elections. we'll cross live to the hearing as soon as that happens. the person lots are focused on is
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brad raffensperger, georgia's top election official. that means he was responsible for managing the election in the state, whichjoe biden won by a thin margin of 0.3. this is going to be an interesting piece of testimony lots of people want to hear from. let's go to capitol hill and our correspondent nomia iqbal. thanks forjoining us. why are we so focused on brad raffensperger in particular? focused on brad raffensperger in articular? , ., ., , focused on brad raffensperger in articular? , ., ., particular? georgia is a sore point for donald trump. _ particular? georgia is a sore point for donald trump. it _ particular? georgia is a sore point for donald trump. it was - particular? georgia is a sore point for donald trump. it was the - particular? georgia is a sore point| for donald trump. it was the state which flipped herjoe biden in 2020, as you mentioned there, nearly winning it by a few points. it is usually a red state. it also elected two democratic senators in 2021 which gave joe two democratic senators in 2021 which gavejoe biden control of the senate. the reason why georgia is going to be so key, and especially when we hear from going to be so key, and especially when we hearfrom brad raffensperger, because if you think back to 2021, there was a very infamous phone call that was
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released to the public which show the pressure that donald trump had put on georgia's officials, mr raffensperger, in which he essentially said to him, find me the votes. find the votes to preventjoe biden from winning. we are going to get an insight from mr raffensperger about that pressure, what it looked like, and we are also going to hear from his top deputy, gabriel sterling for some if you think bank again, mr sterling held an angry emotional press conference in which he implored mrtrump emotional press conference in which he implored mr trump to stop saying there was election fraud in georgia, investigations had shown there was none, and he said, quote, it has all gone too far. somet is going to get killed. insight, as we've heard just now for rusty bowers, but also from mr raffensperger and mr sterling, on whatjust that mr raffensperger and mr sterling, on what just that pressure felt like and looked like on that day in the run—up. ijust remember, what the
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committee is trying to do is show that donald trump had criminal intent, that donald trump knew that this strategy he was engaging in was illegal, he was warned it could lead to violence, but he still took part in it. ., ., ., ., in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave — in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave it _ in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave it there. _ in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave it there. thank - in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave it there. thank you. - in it. nomia, for the moment, we will leave it there. thank you. we are going to be listening to that testimony as it when it happens in washington, dc. this is the feed we have coming in of the arizona official. when we hearfrom have coming in of the arizona official. when we hear from the georgia officials, and nomia was explaining why they are so important, we will listen live here on outside source. an important story in washington, also an important story in the uk, because it is experiencing the biggest rail strike in three decades. it's the first of three strikes. here's why they're happening. the strikes have been called by the rmt trade union — it represents rail workers. and today, around 40,000 rail workers are going on strike.
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the rmt is striking over cuts tojobs, working conditions and pay. let's hear the latest from them. i don't think sunday will be the end of it, from what i can see. if we can negotiate a deal this week, it can be, but otherwise we will have to look at what campaigns we're going to put on going forward, and we think that other unions are going to join to this dispute on the railway. the government could have made a move to settle this dispute but instead they are escalating it. the lies that they are telling about railway workers and the railway industry are outrageous. so that's what the union is saying. they blame the government. the government says the rail system needs to be modernised — here's prime minister borisjohnson. we need to get ready to stay the course, to stay the course, because these reforms, these improvements in the way we run our railways, are in the interest of the travelling public. they will help cut costs for farepayers up and down the country. it's worth saying that the government
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isn't negotiating directly with the unions. rather, the unions are negotiating with the people who run the train companies. let's hear from one of them. how people travelled - in the 19705, '805, '905, where sunday was never seen as a busy travelling _ day for the public. it's now the opposite, it's one of the busiest days we have. i but we've got working practices that say that staff can just volunteer - to come out on a sunday. that makes it very difficult to run a train service. - whatever the rights and wrongs behind the strike, it has certainly caused disruption. we think only 20% of trains are running today. many areas have no trains at all. this is inside liverpool street station — in london — much quieter than you would expect. there's a tube strike in london. that has made it quieter still. and this was manchester picadilly station earlier today. as you can imagine, it's usually a lot busier than this. and commuters have been reacting to these strikes — this is in hull.
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the railway workers, they work hard, they earn their money and they deserve a decent wage. i should have been on a train, but i had to get a national express now, so... i'm on trains every day of the week for myjob, so i don't support it at all, no. lots of people deserve pay rises — the nurses, the teachers. - yes, i think they deserve it, but can we afford - to give everybody a raise? those are some people in hull. next, let's hearfrom bbc correspondents across the country on how the strike is affecting people. london euston is one of the busiest railway stations. today, though, it has been anything but. that said, there has been a steady stream of passengers. right now, i would guess about 200 are on the concourse to try and catch those few trains which are leaving. there are just five routes operating
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in the central belt, no trains north to cities including perth, dundee, aberdeen, inverness. scotrail say it's operating just 10% of the normal services today, so down from 2,000 trains on a normal timetable to less than 200 today. of course, scotrail staff are not on strike, but they rely on network rail to operate the signal boxes and maintain the track. not many trains and - not many people on them, i think is a fair assessment - of the welsh rail network today. down to less than 10% of normal services, i a complete wipe—out in north, mid and west wales. - there are some trains running out of cardiff into the valleys' towns, | and that's because they're on track that's owned and managed - by transport for wales. next, let's hearfrom our transport correspondent, katy austin. she's in bournemouth, in southern england. bournemouth is one of the places across the country which has had absolutely no trains today. other areas include much of wales, much of scotland and a lot of other towns and cities around the coast of england, because for the routes
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that are running, the priority has been the main routes that are the busiest normally. so, for example, services into london from southampton have been running, trains from manchester have been running to london as well, but where services have gone, they haven't been running for the entire day, so, actually, they only started about 7:30am this morning — much later than normal. and actually, a lot of services have actually wound up for the day. so not only have there been lots of places with no services at all, but where they have been running, they have been far fewer than normal and they've ended a lot earlier than normal as well. so that's what's happening today, tuesday. what about wednesday, when, in theory, the strike's not in place? that's right. so two things to tell you about tomorrow. firstly, it's not a strike day, but that doesn't mean trains get back to normal. the knock on impact of today means that trains will start later again, and over the course of the day, we'll see roughly 60%
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of the normal services that would be on offer, so something like a sunday service, really. so that's on the impact, the disruption that passengers would feel. another important thing happening tomorrow morning is we've got new talks that are set to start between rail buses and the rmt union. i'm told that even if a deal was reached tomorrow, which... sense is that the two sides were still quite far my sense is that the two sides were still quite far apart on some issues, so i'm not sure how likely that is, but if a deal was reached tomorrow, it would be too late to prevent disruption on thursday, because the timetable for thursday is already baked into the system, if you like. but a deal tomorrow could prevent disruption happening on saturday. as i say, "if there's an agreement..." it feels like the emphasis is on the if. and in terms of an agreement, understandably, there's a lot of focus on how much of a pay rise these workers should receive, but there's also talk about modernisation. can you help us understand where there are differences between the union and what the employers and what the government want,
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in terms of how the railway should change? yeah, the rmt union's argument has been that there's an agenda of cutting jobs and a pay rise that's not high enough, because they want a pay rise that they say reflects the cost of living. the rail industry says, "look, we've got to save money, and, "actually, we need to reform the way things are done — and if we do that, "it means, actually, we'll have more money "for a bigger pay rise." and when i say "reforming the way things are done", that's in several different areas that the industry would argue is making things more up to date, both adapting to what passengers need nowadays and also doing things with more technology in, they would argue, a safer way. examples might be people working on a sunday or a saturday as part of their normal rota, which at the moment they don't — that's overtime. and also, on the maintenance side of things, maybe sending drones to look at the tracks instead
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of people in some situations. and network rail, for its part, says that its modernisation plans, it said, would involve about 1,800 fewerjobs but insists that could be done by voluntary redundancy and... ..people leaving because they want to or they've got to that stage in their career. and an update that we heard that happened last night was that network rail has now said, "look, we are going to "launch our consultation anyway on these reforms, "whether or not the rmt likes it." so it has now said it will press ahead with consulting formally on those plans, and it's invited the rmt tojoin those talks at the start ofjuly.
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moscow has threatened lithuania with "serious consequences" for stopping some goods entering the russian territory of kaliningrad. lithuania says its implementing eu sanctions — but russia sees it as a blockade. kaliningrad is part of russia, but it's geographically separate — it's an exclave. it borders poland on one side, and lithuania on the other. the head of russia's security council — a close ally of president putin — flew into kaliningrad today — and said this. translation: russia will certainly res - ond translation: russia will certainly resond to translation: russia will certainly respond to such _ translation: russia will certainly respond to such hostile _ translation: russia will certainly respond to such hostile actions. - respond to such hostile actions. appropriate measures are being worked up by departments and will be taken in the nearfuture. their consequences will have a serious negative impact on the population of lithuania. because kaliningrad is separate from the russian mainland, it relies heavily on rail
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transit via lithuania and on goods brought in directly — by sea. the port makes kaliningrad strategically valuable to russia, not least for its navy — russia's baltic fleet — is based there. this map is from the nato website. as you can see, many of the countries surrounding kaliningrad — including lithuania — are nato members. and to the north, across the baltic sea — sweden and finland are going tojoin. a lithuanian mep — who's served previously as defence minister — says that's influencing russia's actions. lam sure i am sure that they are scared because — i am sure that they are scared because of swedish and finnish membership in nato, because to them, the importance of kaliningrad region will be _ the importance of kaliningrad region will be much less than in military terms _ will be much less than in military terms thah — will be much less than in military terms than it was before, and they are afraid — terms than it was before, and they are afraid of that, because the baltic— are afraid of that, because the baltic sea will be more or less surrounded by nato countries. and for them, — surrounded by nato countries. and for them, it— surrounded by nato countries. and for them, it will be, of course, difficult~ — the european union have so far
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adopted six packages of sanctions against russia. those are in response to its invasion of ukraine. on saturday, lithuania began enforcing those sanctions on kaliningrad. the eu sanctions list includes coal, metals, construction materials and advanced technology. the russian governor of kaliningrad says the blockade would cover 40%—50% of the items his region imports by rail. here's lithuania's prime minister. translation: no blockade of kaliningrad — translation: no blockade of kaliningrad is _ translation: no blockade of kaliningrad is taking _ translation: no blockade of kaliningrad is taking place. - translation: no blockade of kaliningrad is taking place. it | translation: no blockade of| kaliningrad is taking place. it is simply— kaliningrad is taking place. it is simply that— kaliningrad is taking place. it is simply that since _ kaliningrad is taking place. it is simply that since last _ kaliningrad is taking place. it is| simply that since last weekend, sahctiohs — simply that since last weekend, sanctions have _ simply that since last weekend, sanctions have come _ simply that since last weekend, sanctions have come into - simply that since last weekend, sanctions have come into forcel simply that since last weekend, . sanctions have come into force on some _ sanctions have come into force on some of— sanctions have come into force on some of the — sanctions have come into force on some of the goods _ sanctions have come into force on some of the goods included - sanctions have come into force on some of the goods included in - sanctions have come into force onj some of the goods included in the so-called — some of the goods included in the so—called sanctions— some of the goods included in the so—called sanctions package, - some of the goods included in the i so—called sanctions package, namely steel and _ so—called sanctions package, namely steel and ferrous _ so—called sanctions package, namely steel and ferrous medals. _ so—called sanctions package, namely steel and ferrous medals. and - steel and ferrous medals. and accordingly, _ steel and ferrous medals. and accordingly, railway— steel and ferrous medals. and| accordingly, railway customers steel and ferrous medals. and - accordingly, railway customers have been informed — accordingly, railway customers have been informed about _ accordingly, railway customers have been informed about the _ accordingly, railway customers have been informed about the allocationl been informed about the allocation of these _ been informed about the allocation of these sanctions _ been informed about the allocation of these sanctions and _ been informed about the allocation of these sanctions and the - been informed about the allocation of these sanctions and the bees . of these sanctions and the bees because — of these sanctions and the bees because cannot _ of these sanctions and the bees because cannot be _ of these sanctions and the bees because cannot be loaded - of these sanctions and the bees because cannot be loaded and i because cannot be loaded and transported _ because cannot be loaded and transported "— because cannot be loaded and tran5ported-— because cannot be loaded and transported. because cannot be loaded and transorted. . ., , , transported. -- and that these goods cannot be. inside kaliningrad, local officials are arguing for sanctions, to be lifted — saying they hurt both sides.
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translation: we hope the measures... these measures — translation: we hope the measures... these measures painfully _ translation: we hope the measures... these measures painfully hit _ translation: we hope the measures... these measures painfully hit the - these measures painfully hit the lithuanian economy. let's not forget our neighbours earn good money on clean dry transit. == our neighbours earn good money on clean dry transit.— clean dry transit. -- on kaliningrad. _ if you are thinking, what's the history here? kaliningrad became part of russia — or the soviet union, as it was then — in 1945, in the potsdam agreement with britain and america. the red army captured it in the second world war. it had previously been known as koenigsberg and had been part of nazi germany. fast forward to today, and moscow is still competing with other major powers for the upper hand in europe. the blockade is part of a broader power struggle. it is a core needed information _ broader power struggle. it is a core needed information attack. - broader power struggle. it is a core needed information attack. they i broader power struggle. it is a core i needed information attack. they want to achieve some _ needed information attack. they want to achieve some goals, _ needed information attack. they want to achieve some goals, first _ needed information attack. they want to achieve some goals, first of- needed information attack. they want to achieve some goals, first of all- to achieve some goals, first of all to achieve some goals, first of all to scare _ to achieve some goals, first of all to scare everybody and their target is not _ to scare everybody and their target is not only— to scare everybody and their target is not only lithuania. the target is
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those _ is not only lithuania. the target is those taking the decisions. very important — those taking the decisions. very important weeks are coming. we will have eu _ important weeks are coming. we will have eu summit this week on candidates for ukraine, so they are trying _ candidates for ukraine, so they are trying to— candidates for ukraine, so they are trying to scare everybody, that it will be _ trying to scare everybody, that it will be some kind of war attack against — will be some kind of war attack against nato countries. sergei goryashko is from the bbc�*s russian service. i think we should categorise this as very tense — i think we should categorise this as very tense situation _ i think we should categorise this as very tense situation between - very tense situation between lithuania _ very tense situation between lithuania and _ very tense situation between lithuania and moscow, - very tense situation between l lithuania and moscow, russia. very tense situation between - lithuania and moscow, russia. russia is, according — lithuania and moscow, russia. russia is, according to — lithuania and moscow, russia. russia is, according to its _ lithuania and moscow, russia. russia is, according to its public— is, according to its public statements, _ is, according to its public statements, escalating. i is, according to its public- statements, escalating. with the when _ statements, escalating. with the when you — statements, escalating. with the when you try— statements, escalating. with the when you try to _ statements, escalating. with the when you try to keep _ statements, escalating. with the when you try to keep things - statements, escalating. with the| when you try to keep things more calm~ _ when you try to keep things more calm~ we — when you try to keep things more calm. we should _ when you try to keep things more calm. we should say— when you try to keep things more calm. we should say this- when you try to keep things more calm. we should say this was - when you try to keep things more calm. we should say this was not| calm. we should say this was not unexpected, _ calm. we should say this was not unexpected, and _ calm. we should say this was not unexpected, and the _ calm. we should say this was notj unexpected, and the government calm. we should say this was not. unexpected, and the government of the collinear— unexpected, and the government of the collinear grad _ —— kaliningrad region said nothing. the governor — —— kaliningrad region said nothing. the governor said _ —— kaliningrad region said nothing. the governor said it _ —— kaliningrad region said nothing. the governor said it was _
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—— kaliningrad region said nothing. the governor said it was expectedl the governor said it was expected and he _ the governor said it was expected and he had — the governor said it was expected and he had this— the governor said it was expected and he had this idea _ the governor said it was expected and he had this idea that- the governor said it was expected and he had this idea that the - the governor said it was expected and he had this idea that the eu l the governor said it was expected . and he had this idea that the eu has just forgotten — and he had this idea that the eu has just forgotten to _ and he had this idea that the eu has just forgotten to write _ and he had this idea that the eu has just forgotten to write something i and he had this idea that the eu has just forgotten to write something in| just forgotten to write something in that new— just forgotten to write something in that new sanctions _ just forgotten to write something in that new sanctions act _ just forgotten to write something in that new sanctions act about - just forgotten to write something in that new sanctions act about the . that new sanctions act about the situation — that new sanctions act about the situation with— that new sanctions act about the situation with the _ that new sanctions act about the situation with the transit - that new sanctions act about the i situation with the transit between russia _ situation with the transit between russia mainland _ situation with the transit between russia mainland and _ situation with the transit between russia mainland and russian- russia mainland and russian kaliningrad, _ russia mainland and russian kaliningrad, through- russia mainland and russian kaliningrad, through the - russia mainland and russian- kaliningrad, through the lithuanian territory _ kaliningrad, through the lithuanian territory. stilt. _ kaliningrad, through the lithuanian territory. still, lithuania— kaliningrad, through the lithuanian territory. still, lithuania banned i territory. still, lithuania banned alltransit— territory. still, lithuania banned all transit through _ territory. still, lithuania banned all transit through his _ territory. still, lithuania banned all transit through his territory, i all transit through his territory, both— all transit through his territory, both railway _ all transit through his territory, both railway and _ all transit through his territory, both railway and car— all transit through his territory, both railway and car transit, . all transit through his territory, both railway and car transit, by| both railway and car transit, by trucks, — both railway and car transit, by trucks, and _ both railway and car transit, by trucks, and so _ both railway and car transit, by trucks, and so russia - both railway and car transit, by trucks, and so russia is- both railway and car transit, by trucks, and so russia is only. both railway and car transit, by. trucks, and so russia is only left with— trucks, and so russia is only left with transport _ trucks, and so russia is only left with transport by— trucks, and so russia is only left with transport by sea. _ trucks, and so russia is only left with transport by sea. for- trucks, and so russia is only left with transport by sea. for now, i trucks, and so russia is only left i with transport by sea. for now, the russian _ with transport by sea. for now, the russian say— with transport by sea. for now, the russian say it — with transport by sea. for now, the russian say it is— with transport by sea. for now, the russian say it is simply— with transport by sea. for now, the russian say it is simply impossiblel russian say it is simply impossible to transfer— russian say it is simply impossible to transfer all— russian say it is simply impossible to transfer all these _ russian say it is simply impossible to transfer all these products - russian say it is simply impossible to transfer all these products and i to transfer all these products and goods— to transfer all these products and goods by— to transfer all these products and goods by sea _ to transfer all these products and goods by sea and _ to transfer all these products and goods by sea and the _ to transfer all these products and goods by sea and the transported system _ goods by sea and the transported system could _ goods by sea and the transported system could be _ goods by sea and the transported system could be change - goods by sea and the transported system could be change in- goods by sea and the transported system could be change in orderl goods by sea and the transported i system could be change in order to keep supplying _ system could be change in order to keep supplying kaliningrad. - system could be change in order to keep supplying kaliningrad. still, l keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow— keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow is— keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow is reacting _ keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow is reacting in— keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow is reacting in a _ keep supplying kaliningrad. still, moscow is reacting in a very - keep supplying kaliningrad. still, . moscow is reacting in a very hostile way~ _ moscow is reacting in a very hostile wa . r ., , , ., , way. and in the middle of this story is lithuania. — way. and in the middle of this story is lithuania, a _
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way. and in the middle of this story is lithuania, a relatively _ way. and in the middle of this story is lithuania, a relatively small - is lithuania, a relatively small nation which is having to represent the principles of the west. how do you assess how much support its receiving in this moment? riff you assess how much support it's receiving in this moment? of course, lithuania should _ receiving in this moment? of course, lithuania should be _ receiving in this moment? of course, lithuania should be seeking - receiving in this moment? of course, lithuania should be seeking support. lithuania should be seeking support from the _ lithuania should be seeking support from the whole _ lithuania should be seeking support from the whole eu, _ lithuania should be seeking support from the whole eu, because - lithuania should be seeking support from the whole eu, because it- lithuania should be seeking support from the whole eu, because it did l from the whole eu, because it did not do _ from the whole eu, because it did not do that— from the whole eu, because it did not do that out _ from the whole eu, because it did not do that out of— from the whole eu, because it did not do that out of the _ from the whole eu, because it did not do that out of the blue, they. not do that out of the blue, they did that — not do that out of the blue, they did that according _ not do that out of the blue, they did that according to _ not do that out of the blue, they did that according to the - not do that out of the blue, they did that according to the eu - did that according to the eu sanctions _ did that according to the eu sanctions act, _ did that according to the eu sanctions act, the - did that according to the eu sanctions act, the last - did that according to the eu sanctions act, the last one, j did that according to the eu - sanctions act, the last one, which is why— sanctions act, the last one, which is why it _ sanctions act, the last one, which is why it should _ sanctions act, the last one, which is why it should be _ sanctions act, the last one, which is why it should be supported - sanctions act, the last one, which is why it should be supported by i sanctions act, the last one, which i is why it should be supported by the eu and _ is why it should be supported by the eu and which is— is why it should be supported by the eu and which is why— is why it should be supported by the eu and which is why moscow- eu and which is why moscow actually considers— eu and which is why moscow actually considers the european _ considers the european union responsible _ considers the european union responsible for this _ considers the european union responsible for this situationl considers the european union. responsible for this situation in lithuania _ responsible for this situation in lithuania it— responsible for this situation in lithuania. it probably- responsible for this situation in lithuania. it probably spends . responsible for this situation in . lithuania. it probably spends why they decided _ lithuania. it probably spends why they decided to _ lithuania. it probably spends why they decided to summon - lithuania. it probably spends why they decided to summon the - lithuania. it probably spends why- they decided to summon the european union _ they decided to summon the european union ambassador— they decided to summon the european union ambassador today. _ they decided to summon the european union ambassador today. they- they decided to summon the european union ambassador today. they would i union ambassador today. they would probably— union ambassador today. they would probably keep — union ambassador today. they would probably keep receiving _ union ambassador today. they would probably keep receiving the _ union ambassador today. they would probably keep receiving the support i probably keep receiving the support from the _ probably keep receiving the support from the european _ probably keep receiving the support from the european union _ probably keep receiving the support from the european union —— - probably keep receiving the support from the european union —— it- from the european union —— it probably— from the european union —— it probably explains. _ from the european union —— it probably explains. still, - from the european union —— iti probably explains. still, maybe from the european union —— it- probably explains. still, maybe the situation _ probably explains. still, maybe the situation will — probably explains. still, maybe the situation will be _ probably explains. still, maybe the situation will be changed _ probably explains. still, maybe the situation will be changed in - probably explains. still, maybe the situation will be changed in a - probably explains. still, maybe the situation will be changed in a way, i situation will be changed in a way, because _ situation will be changed in a way, because it — situation will be changed in a way, because it is — situation will be changed in a way, because it is not _ situation will be changed in a way, because it is not about—
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situation will be changed in a way, because it is not about the - situation will be changed in a way, | because it is not about the russian goods— because it is not about the russian goods to _ because it is not about the russian goods to europe, _ because it is not about the russian goods to europe, or— because it is not about the russian goods to europe, or trying - because it is not about the russian goods to europe, or trying to- goods to europe, or trying to transit— goods to europe, or trying to transit something _ goods to europe, or trying to transit something through i transit something through the european _ transit something through the european territory— transit something through the european territory to - transit something through the european territory to sell- transit something through the european territory to sell it i european territory to sell it somewhere _ european territory to sell it somewhere abroad - european territory to sell it somewhere abroad after i european territory to sell it i somewhere abroad after that, european territory to sell it - somewhere abroad after that, they are talking — somewhere abroad after that, they are talking about _ somewhere abroad after that, they are talking about transferring - are talking about transferring products _ are talking about transferring products to _ are talking about transferring products to kaliningrad - are talking about transferring products to kaliningrad and l products to kaliningrad and backwards _ products to kaliningrad and backwards. probably, - products to kaliningrad and backwards. probably, in. products to kaliningrad and l backwards. probably, in this products to kaliningrad and - backwards. probably, in this case, european — backwards. probably, in this case, european union _ backwards. probably, in this case, european union would _ backwards. probably, in this case, european union would find - backwards. probably, in this case, european union would find a - backwards. probably, in this case, i european union would find a solution to decide _ european union would find a solution to decide how— european union would find a solution to decide how to _ european union would find a solution to decide how to solve _ european union would find a solution to decide how to solve this _ european union would find a solution to decide how to solve this problem. | to decide how to solve this problem. still, to decide how to solve this problem. still. if— to decide how to solve this problem. still. if the _ to decide how to solve this problem. still, if the statements _ to decide how to solve this problem. still, if the statements will- to decide how to solve this problem. still, if the statements will become. still, if the statements will become more _ still, if the statements will become more and _ still, if the statements will become more and more _ still, if the statements will become more and more hostile, _ still, if the statements will become more and more hostile, both - still, if the statements will become more and more hostile, both froml more and more hostile, both from moscow— more and more hostile, both from moscow and — more and more hostile, both from moscow and the _ more and more hostile, both from moscow and the european - more and more hostile, both froml moscow and the european leaders, more and more hostile, both from i moscow and the european leaders, it probably— moscow and the european leaders, it probably leads — moscow and the european leaders, it probably leads to _ moscow and the european leaders, it probably leads to some _ moscow and the european leaders, it probably leads to some grave - probably leads to some grave consequences. _ let's immediately turn back to washington, because, as i was saying earlier, the committee investigating disarming of the capitol on january disarming of the capitol onjanuary 6, disarming of the capitol on january 6, after the last presidential election, is holding another public hearing. he can see they return to
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their desk. the man in the middle in their desk. the man in the middle in the red tie, mr raffensperger, he is georgia's top election official. that is relevant because donald trump spoke to him after the election was complete, encouraging him to alter the result, which projected joe biden as the winner of the state of georgia in the election, encouraging them to find more votes, and he has become a crucialfigure in the more votes, and he has become a crucial figure in the story of how donald trump promoted false claims about how the election was stolen and attempted to insert pressure on and attempted to insert pressure on a range of ways, on people who may or may not have been able to influence that result. georgia is particularly relevant because, like a number of other states, it is a close opting in the us president election. there are some states we always know where it will go — california is always going to go with the democratic candidate — but in the case of arizona and georgia, it was not clear. georgia has a
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history of choosing the republican candidate in the presidential election, but in this case, it was very tight. joe biden would turn out the winter, but donald trump and his supporters have long claimed that in this case, something untoward happened, which gavejoe biden a which was not correct. there is no evidence to back that up, but mr raffensperger and other officials we will hear from raffensperger and other officials we will hearfrom her going to be talking about their experience. here comes the panel you can see them all filing in. bear in mind the many of the republicans in the house are not cooperating with this committee, so it is largely made up of democrats or republicans who were critical of donald trump. there are not too many of those, but liz cheney is one of them. she has been a vocal critic of donald trump and in particular what happened around the election results. yeah, she wasjust happened around the election results. yeah, she was just there happened around the election results. yeah, she wasjust there in the blue jacket, results. yeah, she wasjust there in the bluejacket, sitting down, and in a moment, they are going to be
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questioning these officials from the state of georgia, who will describe what happened to them in the days that followed the election, as it became clear thatjoe biden was going to win georgia and donald trump was not. we know about the phone call between donald trump and mr raffensperger because the washington post got a copy of it and published it. let's have a listen as matters begin. the published it. let's have a listen as matters begin-— published it. let's have a listen as matters begin. published it. let's have a listen as matters beuin. .., , matters begin. the committee will be in order. matters begin. the committee will be in order- the — matters begin. the committee will be in order. the former— matters begin. the committee will be in order. the former president - matters begin. the committee will be in order. the former president had i in order. the former president had an obsession with georgia. here is the president on the afternoon of january 6, after his own attorney general warned him that the claims you are about to hear were patently false. , , ., ., , false. they should find those votes. they should — false. they should find those votes. they should absolutely _ false. they should find those votes. they should absolutely find - false. they should find those votes. they should absolutely find that. i they should absolutely find that. just over— they should absolutely find that. just over 11,000 votes — that's all we need — just over 11,000 votes — that's all we need. they defrauded us out of a win in— we need. they defrauded us out of a win in georgia. and we are not going to forget— win in georgia. and we are not going to forget it —
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win in georgia. and we are not going to forget it. so win in georgia. and we are not going to foruet it. win in georgia. and we are not going to forget it— to forget it. so the state of georgia is _ to forget it. so the state of georgia is where _ to forget it. so the state of georgia is where we - to forget it. so the state of georgia is where we will. to forget it. so the state of. georgia is where we will turn to forget it. so the state of- georgia is where we will turn our attention to next. i want to emphasise that our investigation into these issues is still ongoing, as i stated in our last hearing, if you have relevant information or documentary evidence to share with the select committee, we welcome your cooperation, but we will share some of ourfindings your cooperation, but we will share some of our findings with you today. secretary raffensperger, thank you for being here today. you have been a public servant in georgia since 2015, serving first as a member of the georgia house of representatives, and then, since january 2019, as georgia's secretary of state for some as a self—described conservative republican, it is —— is it fair to say you want to president trump to win the 2020 election? yes. say you want to president trump to win the 2020 election?— win the 2020 election? yes, it is. mr secretary. _
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win the 2020 election? yes, it is. mr secretary, met _ win the 2020 election? yes, it is. mr secretary, met witnesses i win the 2020 election? yes, it is. | mr secretary, met witnesses have told the select committee that election day november three, 2020, was a largely uneventful day in their own states. in spite of the challenges of conducting an election during a pandemic. you wrote in the washington post that the election was successful. tell us, what was your impression of how election day had proceeded in georgia? fin had proceeded in georgia? on election day in november, our election— election day in november, our election went remarkably smooth. in fact, we _ election went remarkably smooth. in fact, we meet at the headquarters — the georgia — fact, we meet at the headquarters — the georgia energy emergency management association — location, but we _ management association — location, but we are _ management association — location, but we are following weight times. in but we are following weight times. in the _ but we are following weight times. in the afternoon, our average wait time _ in the afternoon, our average wait time was — in the afternoon, our average wait time was three minutes, state—wide, recorded _ time was three minutes, state—wide, recorded from various precincts. actually— recorded from various precincts. actually got down to two minutes. at the end _ actually got down to two minutes. at the end of— actually got down to two minutes. at the end of the day we had a successful election on the standpoint of the operation of the
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election — standpoint of the operation of the election. ., ~ standpoint of the operation of the election. ., ,, , ., standpoint of the operation of the election. ., ~' , ., . . election. thank you. the chair recognises — election. thank you. the chair recognises the _ election. thank you. the chair recognises the jong-un i election. thank you. the chair recognises the jong-un from | recognises the jong—un from california. a0. -- the recognises the jong—un from california. a0. —— the gentleman. did... california. aq. -- the gentleman. did... , r california. aq. -- the gentleman. did... , �* did... president biden carried the state of georgia _ did... president biden carried the state of georgia by _ did... president biden carried the state of georgia by proximally i did... president biden carried the l state of georgia by proximally 1000 votes _ state of georgia by proximally1000 votes. mr— state of georgia by proximally1000 votes. ~ votes. mr secretary, as i understand it, our votes. mr secretary, as i understand it. your office _ votes. mr secretary, as i understand it, your office took— votes. mr secretary, as i understand it, your office took several _ votes. mr secretary, as i understand it, your office took several steps - it, your office took several steps to ensure — it, your office took several steps to ensure the _ it, your office took several steps to ensure the accuracy _ it, your office took several steps to ensure the accuracy of - it, your office took several steps to ensure the accuracy of the - it, your office took several steps. to ensure the accuracy of the void count— to ensure the accuracy of the void count in— to ensure the accuracy of the void count in georgia, _ to ensure the accuracy of the void count in georgia, reviewing - to ensure the accuracy of the void count in georgia, reviewing the l to ensure the accuracy of the void . count in georgia, reviewing the vote count _ count in georgia, reviewing the vote count and _ count in georgia, reviewing the vote count and at— count in georgia, reviewing the vote count and at least _ count in georgia, reviewing the vote count and at least three _ count in georgia, reviewing the vote count and at least three different. count and at least three different ways -- — count and at least three different ways. -- motown— count and at least three different ways. —— motown for— count and at least three different ways. —— motown for some - count and at least three different} ways. —— motown for some these included — ways. —— motown for some these included a — ways. —— motown for some these included a recount, _ ways. —— motown for some these included a recount, a _ ways. —— motown for some these included a recount, a forensic- ways. —— motown for some these l included a recount, a forensic audit and a _ included a recount, a forensic audit and a futt— included a recount, a forensic audit and a full machine _ included a recount, a forensic audit and a full machine recount - included a recount, a forensic audit and a full machine recount of - included a recount, a forensic audit and a full machine recount of the l and a full machine recount of the votes _ and a full machine recount of the votes cast — and a full machine recount of the votes cast. did _ and a full machine recount of the votes cast. did these _ and a full machine recount of the votes cast. did these efforts, - votes cast. did these efforts, including _ votes cast. did these efforts, including a _ votes cast. did these efforts, including a recount _ votes cast. did these efforts, including a recount of- votes cast. did these efforts, | including a recount of literally every — including a recount of literally every ballot _ including a recount of literally every ballot cast _ including a recount of literally every ballot cast in _ including a recount of literally every ballot cast in the - including a recount of literally every ballot cast in the set. including a recount of literally every ballot cast in the set of| every ballot cast in the set of georgia, _ every ballot cast in the set of georgia, confirm _ every ballot cast in the set of georgia, confirm the - every ballot cast in the set of| georgia, confirm the results? every ballot cast in the set of- georgia, confirm the results? the? georgia, confirm the results? they did. the georgia, confirm the results? they did- the first _ georgia, confirm the results? they did. the first ballots _ georgia, confirm the results? did. the first ballots were georgia, confirm the results?- did. the first ballots were scanned, then we _ did. the first ballots were scanned, then we did — did. the first ballots were scanned, then we did our 100% hand audit of then we did our 100% hand audit of the entire _ then we did our100% hand audit of the entire 5— then we did our 100% hand audit of the entire 5 million ballots in the state _ the entire 5 million ballots in the state of— the entire 5 million ballots in the state of georgia, they were all hand
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recounted _ state of georgia, they were all hand recounted and became remarkably close _ recounted and became remarkably close to _ recounted and became remarkably close to the first count, and then upon _ close to the first count, and then upon the — close to the first count, and then upon the election being certified, president — upon the election being certified, president trump, because he was within— president trump, because he was within a _ president trump, because he was within a half percent, excuse me, could _ within a half percent, excuse me, could ask— within a half percent, excuse me, could ask for a recount, and then we recounted _ could ask for a recount, and then we recounted them again through these counters— recounted them again through these counters and we got markley the same account _ counters and we got markley the same account. three counts, all remarkably close, which showed that president _ remarkably close, which showed that president trump did come up short. nevertheless, as you will see, the president— nevertheless, as you will see, the president and _ nevertheless, as you will see, the president and his _ nevertheless, as you will see, the president and his allies _ nevertheless, as you will see, the president and his allies did - nevertheless, as you will see, the president and his allies did begin i president and his allies did begin making _ president and his allies did begin making false _ president and his allies did begin making false allegations - president and his allies did begin making false allegations of - president and his allies did begin making false allegations of voter�* making false allegations of voter fraud, _ making false allegations of voter fraud, that — making false allegations of voter fraud, that you _ making false allegations of voter fraud, that you and _ making false allegations of voter fraud, that you and mr— making false allegations of voter fraud, that you and mr chilling. making false allegations of voter. fraud, that you and mr chilling and others _ fraud, that you and mr chilling and others had — fraud, that you and mr chilling and others had to— fraud, that you and mr chilling and others had to address. _ fraud, that you and mr chilling and others had to address. mr- fraud, that you and mr chilling andi others had to address. mr sterling, think— others had to address. mr sterling, think you _ others had to address. mr sterling, think you also — others had to address. mr sterling, think you also for _ others had to address. mr sterling, think you also for being _ others had to address. mr sterling, think you also for being here - others had to address. mr sterling, | think you also for being here today. following _ think you also for being here today. following the — think you also for being here today. following the 2020 _ think you also for being here today. following the 2020 election, - think you also for being here today. following the 2020 election, in - following the 2020 election, in addition — following the 2020 election, in addition to— following the 2020 election, in addition to your— following the 2020 election, in addition to your normal - following the 2020 election, in addition to your normal duties, i following the 2020 election, in| addition to your normal duties, i understand _ addition to your normal duties, i understand you _ addition to your normal duties, i understand you became - addition to your normal duties, i understand you became the - understand you became the spokesperson _ understand you became the spokesperson to— understand you became the spokesperson to train - understand you became the l spokesperson to train combat disinformation _ spokesperson to train combat disinformation but _ spokesperson to train combat disinformation but the - spokesperson to train combatl disinformation but the election spokesperson to train combat - disinformation but the election and the danger— disinformation but the election and the danger it— disinformation but the election and the danger it was _ disinformation but the election and the danger it was creating - disinformation but the election and the danger it was creating for- the danger it was creating for elections _ the danger it was creating for elections officials _ the danger it was creating for elections officials and - the danger it was creating for�* elections officials and others. the danger it was creating for. elections officials and others. in the danger it was creating for- elections officials and others. in a december— elections officials and others. in a december one _ elections officials and others. in a december one press _ elections officials and others. in a december one press conference, i elections officials and others. in a i december one press conference, you addressed _ december one press conference, you addressed some — december one press conference, you addressed some of— december one press conference, you addressed some of your— december one press conference, you addressed some of your remarks - addressed some of your remarks directly— addressed some of your remarks directly to— addressed some of your remarks directly to president _ addressed some of your remarks directly to president trump. - addressed some of your remarksl directly to president trump. let's take a _ directly to president trump. let's take a look— directly to president trump. let's take a look at— directly to president trump. let's take a look at what _ directly to president trump. let's take a look at what you _ directly to president trump. let's take a look at what you said - directly to president trump. let's take a look at what you said thati take a look at what you said that
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day _ mr president, we are investigating, there's always a possibility, we have the right to go to go to the court, but you don't have the ability to do, you need to step up to say this, stop inspiring people to say this, stop inspiring people to commit potential violence was that sitting at her, some is getting a shot, somebody�*s going to get killed. and it's not right. it's not right. killed. and it's not right. it's not riuht. ~ . killed. and it's not right. it's not ri.ht_~ ., ,., , killed. and it's not right. it's not rirht.~ . ,., , ., killed. and it's not right. it's not riuht. . , ., right. what prompted you to make these remarks? _ right. what prompted you to make these remarks? mr— right. what prompted you to make these remarks? mr schiff, - right. what prompted you to make these remarks? mr schiff, we - right. what prompted you to make these remarks? mr schiff, we had| right. what prompted you to make | these remarks? mr schiff, we had a reviousl these remarks? mr schiff, we had a previously scheduled _ these remarks? mr schiff, we had a previously scheduled press - previously scheduled press conference that day as we were in the habit of doing, trying to be as transparent as we could about the election and the accounts going on. a little after lunch that day, i received a call from the project manager from received a call from the project managerfrom dominion received a call from the project manager from dominion voting systems who was oddly audibly shaken, she is not the kind of person i assume would be that way but she's a
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graduate of the naval academy and is pretty unstoppable. she informed me about a young contractor they had would been receiving threats from a video that it been posted by for some cumin on supporters at that point we had been in steeping in this kind of stuff so we, i did take note of it and more of adding to the pile of the stuff we having to deal with. i did pull up twitter and i scrolled through it and i saw the young man's name, it was a particular tweet for lack of a better word, the straw that broke the camels back. the young man's name, very unique name, first generation american and i had his name, you committed treason, may god have mercy on your soul with a slowly twisting gift of a news photo of a lack of a better word, i lost it. i got irate. my boss was with me at the time, the deputy secretary
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and she could tell that i was angry, i tend to turn red from here up when that happens and that happened at that happens and that happened at that time. she called secretary brad raffensperger and said we are seeing these kinds of threats and we need to say something about it. the secretary said yes and that's what prompted me to do what i did. i lost my temper but it seemed necessary at the time because it was just getting worse. i could not tell you why that particular one was one of put me over the edge, but it did. shifter particular one was one of put me over the edge, but it did. after you made this please _ over the edge, but it did. after you made this please to _ over the edge, but it did. after you made this please to the president, | made this please to the president, donald _ made this please to the president, donald trump _ made this please to the president, donald trump urges _ made this please to the president, donald trump urges supporters - made this please to the president, donald trump urges supporters to| donald trump urges supporters to avoid _ donald trump urges supporters to avoid the — donald trump urges supporters to avoid the violence? _ donald trump urges supporters to avoid the violence? hot _ donald trump urges supporters to avoid the violence?— avoid the violence? not to my knowledge — avoid the violence? not to my knowledge. as _ avoid the violence? not to my knowledge. as we _ avoid the violence? not to my knowledge. as we know, - avoid the violence? not to my knowledge. as we know, the l avoid the violence? not to my - knowledge. as we know, the president was aware of your speech because he tweeted about it later that day. let's take a look at what the president said. in let's take a look at what the president said.— let's take a look at what the resident said. ,., ., president said. in the tweet donald trump claims _ president said. in the tweet donald trump claims that _ president said. in the tweet donald trump claims that there _ president said. in the tweet donald trump claims that there was - president said. in the tweet donald i trump claims that there was "massive voter fraud _ trump claims that there was "massive voter fraud in — trump claims that there was "massive voter fraud in georgia. _ trump claims that there was "massive voterfraud in georgia. "mr— trump claims that there was "massive voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack- trump claims that there was "massive voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at i voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at three. _ voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at three. that — voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at three. that was _ voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at three, that was just _ voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at three, that was just plain _ voter fraud in georgia. "mr mack at
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three, that wasjust plain false, - three, that was just plain false, wasn't — three, that was just plain false, wasn't it? — three, that was just plain false, wasn't it? yes. _ three, that was just plain false, wasn't it? yes. nevertheless. three, that wasjust plain false, i wasn't it? yes. nevertheless the very next— wasn't it? yes. nevertheless the very next day— wasn't it? yes. nevertheless the very next day president - wasn't it? yes. nevertheless the very next day president trump . very next day president trump released — very next day president trump released a _ very next day president trump released a lengthy _ very next day president trump released a lengthy video - very next day president trump l released a lengthy video making false _ released a lengthy video making false claims— released a lengthy video making false claims of— released a lengthy video making false claims of election - released a lengthy video making false claims of election fraud - released a lengthy video making false claims of election fraud in| false claims of election fraud in georgia — false claims of election fraud in georgia let's_ false claims of election fraud in georgia. let's take _ false claims of election fraud in georgia. let's take a _ false claims of election fraud in georgia. let's take a look- false claims of election fraud in georgia. let's take a look at. false claims of election fraud in . georgia. let's take a look at what he said _ georgia. let's take a look at what he said this — georgia. let's take a look at what he said this time. _ georgia. let's take a look at what he said this time.— he said this time. they found thousands — he said this time. they found thousands and _ he said this time. they found thousands and thousands - he said this time. they found thousands and thousands of| he said this time. they found - thousands and thousands of votes that were — thousands and thousands of votes that were out of whack, all against me. that were out of whack, all against me in— that were out of whack, all against me. .. ._ ., that were out of whack, all against me. ., ., me. in fact, the day after donald trump released _ me. in fact, the day after donald trump released that _ me. in fact, the day after donald trump released that video, - me. in fact, the day after donald trump released that video, now| me. in fact, the day after donald i trump released that video, now we are talking — trump released that video, now we are talking just _ trump released that video, now we are talking just two _ trump released that video, now we are talking just two days _ trump released that video, now we are talking just two days after - trump released that video, now we are talking just two days after the i are talking just two days after the emotional— are talking just two days after the emotional warning _ are talking just two days after the emotional warning that— are talking just two days after the emotional warning that you - are talking just two days after the emotional warning that you gavel are talking just two days after the - emotional warning that you gave that someone _ emotional warning that you gave that someone is _ emotional warning that you gave that someone is going _ emotional warning that you gave that someone is going to _ emotional warning that you gave that someone is going to get _ emotional warning that you gave that someone is going to get killed, - someone is going to get killed, representatives _ someone is going to get killed, representatives of— someone is going to get killed, representatives of president i someone is going to get killed, i representatives of president trump appeared _ representatives of president trump appeared in— representatives of president trump appeared in georgia, _ representatives of president trump appeared in georgia, including i representatives of president trumpl appeared in georgia, including rudy giuliani _ appeared in georgia, including rudy giuliani and launched _ appeared in georgia, including rudy giuliani and launched a _ appeared in georgia, including rudy giuliani and launched a new- giuliani and launched a new conspiracy— giuliani and launched a new conspiracy theory that i giuliani and launched a new- conspiracy theory that would take on a life of— conspiracy theory that would take on a life of its— conspiracy theory that would take on a life of its own _ conspiracy theory that would take on a life of its own and threaten - conspiracy theory that would take on a life of its own and threaten the i a life of its own and threaten the lives _ a life of its own and threaten the lives of _ a life of its own and threaten the lives of several innocent - lives of several innocent election workers — lives of several innocent election workers this _ lives of several innocent election workers. this policy— lives of several innocent election workers. this policy it— lives of several innocent election workers. this policy it alleges i lives of several innocent election i workers. this policy it alleges that sometimes — workers. this policy it alleges that sometimes during _ workers. this policy it alleges that sometimes during election - workers. this policy it alleges that sometimes during election night l sometimes during election night election— sometimes during election night election workers— sometimes during election night election workers at _ sometimes during election night election workers at the - sometimes during election night election workers at the state i sometimes during election night . election workers at the state farm arena _ election workers at the state farm arena in _ election workers at the state farm arena in atlanta, _ election workers at the state farm arena in atlanta, georgia - election workers at the state farm arena in atlanta, georgia kicked i election workers at the state farm. arena in atlanta, georgia kicked out poll observers _ arena in atlanta, georgia kicked out poll observers. after— arena in atlanta, georgia kicked out poll observers. after the _ arena in atlanta, georgia kicked out poll observers. after the observersl poll observers. after the observers left, the _ poll observers. after the observers left, the stories— poll observers. after the observers left, the stories go, _ poll observers. after the observers left, the stories go, these - poll observers. after the observers left, the stories go, these workers| left, the stories go, these workers pulled _ left, the stories go, these workers pulled suitcases _ left, the stories go, these workers pulled suitcases of _ left, the stories go, these workers pulled suitcases of ballots - left, the stories go, these workers pulled suitcases of ballots from i pulled suitcases of ballots from under _
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pulled suitcases of ballots from under a — pulled suitcases of ballots from under a table _ pulled suitcases of ballots from under a table and _ pulled suitcases of ballots from under a table and rent - pulled suitcases of ballots from under a table and rent those i pulled suitcases of ballots from i under a table and rent those ballots through— under a table and rent those ballots through counting _ under a table and rent those ballots through counting machines - under a table and rent those ballotsj through counting machines multiple times _ through counting machines multiple times. completely— through counting machines multiple times. completely without - through counting machines multiple times. completely without evidencej times. completely without evidence president _ times. completely without evidence president trump _ times. completely without evidence president trump and _ times. completely without evidence president trump and his _ times. completely without evidence president trump and his allies i president trump and his allies claimed — president trump and his allies claimed that _ claimed that the suitcases contained as many— claimed that the suitcases contained as many as — claimed that the suitcases contained as many as 18,000 _ claimed that the suitcases contained as many as 18,000 ballots - claimed that the suitcases contained as many as 18,000 ballots all - claimed that the suitcases contained as many as 18,000 ballots all for i as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden — as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden. none _ as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden. none of— as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden. none of this— as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden. none of this is- as many as 18,000 ballots all for joe biden. none of this is true. . as many as 18,000 ballots all for l joe biden. none of this is true. but rudy— joe biden. none of this is true. but rudy giuliani — joe biden. none of this is true. but rudy giuliani appear— joe biden. none of this is true. but rudy giuliani appear before - joe biden. none of this is true. but rudy giuliani appear before the i rudy giuliani appear before the georgia — rudy giuliani appear before the georgia state _ rudy giuliani appear before the georgia state senate _ rudy giuliani appear before the georgia state senate and - rudy giuliani appear before the i georgia state senate and played a surveillance — georgia state senate and played a surveillance video _ georgia state senate and played a surveillance video from _ georgia state senate and played a surveillance video from state i georgia state senate and played ai surveillance video from state farm arena _ surveillance video from state farm arena falsely— surveillance video from state farm arena falsely claiming _ surveillance video from state farm arena falsely claiming that - surveillance video from state farm arena falsely claiming that it - arena falsely claiming that it showed _ arena falsely claiming that it showed this— arena falsely claiming that it showed this conspiracy- arena falsely claiming that itl showed this conspiracy taking arena falsely claiming that it - showed this conspiracy taking place. here's _ showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a _ showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a sample— showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a sample of— showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a sample of what _ showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a sample of what mr- showed this conspiracy taking place. here's a sample of what mr giuliani i here's a sample of what mr giuliani had to— here's a sample of what mr giuliani had to say— here's a sample of what mr giuliani had to say during _ here's a sample of what mr giuliani had to say during that _ here's a sample of what mr giuliani had to say during that hearing. i here's a sample of what mr giuliani i had to say during that hearing. itithe" had to say during that hearing. when ou look at had to say during that hearing. when you look at what _ had to say during that hearing. when you look at what you _ had to say during that hearing. when you look at what you saw _ had to say during that hearing. when you look at what you saw on - had to say during that hearing. you look at what you saw on the video. _ you look at what you saw on the video, which to be was a smoking gun. _ video, which to be was a smoking gun, powerful smoking gun, i don't have to _ gun, powerful smoking gun, i don't have to be — gun, powerful smoking gun, i don't have to be a — gun, powerful smoking gun, i don't have to be a genius to figure out what _ have to be a genius to figure out what happened. i don't have to be a genius _ what happened. i don't have to be a genius to— what happened. i don't have to be a genius to figure out that those votes — genius to figure out that those votes are _ genius to figure out that those votes are not legitimate boats. you don't _ votes are not legitimate boats. you don't put _ votes are not legitimate boats. you don't put legitimate votes under a table _ don't put legitimate votes under a table no~ — don't put legitimate votes under a table. no. wait untilyou don't put legitimate votes under a table. no. wait until you throw the opposition— table. no. wait until you throw the opposition out and in the middle of the night _ opposition out and in the middle of the night count them. we would have to be fools _ the night count them. we would have to be fools to think that.—
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to be fools to think that. president trum - 's to be fools to think that. president trump's campaign _ to be fools to think that. president trump's campaign amplified - to be fools to think that. president| trump's campaign amplified giuliani false testimony— trump's campaign amplified giuliani false testimony in _ trump's campaign amplified giuliani false testimony in a _ trump's campaign amplified giuliani false testimony in a tweet - trump's campaign amplified giuliani false testimony in a tweet pushing i false testimony in a tweet pushing out the _ false testimony in a tweet pushing out the video _ false testimony in a tweet pushing out the video footage. _ false testimony in a tweet pushing out the video footage. giuliani i out the video footage. giuliani likewise — out the video footage. giuliani likewise pushed _ out the video footage. giuliani likewise pushed out _ out the video footage. giuliani likewise pushed out his- out the video footage. giuliani i likewise pushed out his testimony out the video footage. giuliani - likewise pushed out his testimony on social— likewise pushed out his testimony on social media — likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as _ likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as you _ likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as you can _ likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as you can see - likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as you can see in i likewise pushed out his testimony on social media. as you can see in the l social media. as you can see in the street_ social media. as you can see in the street mr_ social media. as you can see in the street mr giuliani _ social media. as you can see in the street mr giuliani wrote _ social media. as you can see in the street mr giuliani wrote that - social media. as you can see in the street mr giuliani wrote that it - social media. as you can see in the street mr giuliani wrote that it was| street mr giuliani wrote that it was "now— street mr giuliani wrote that it was "now beyond — street mr giuliani wrote that it was "now beyond doubt _ street mr giuliani wrote that it was "now beyond doubt "that - street mr giuliani wrote that it was . "now beyond doubt "that democrats and stolen _ "now beyond doubt "that democrats and stolen the — "now beyond doubt "that democrats and stolen the election. _ "now beyond doubt "that democrats and stolen the election. later- "now beyond doubt "that democrats and stolen the election. later in - and stolen the election. later in this hearing _ and stolen the election. later in this hearing we _ and stolen the election. later in this hearing we will— and stolen the election. later in this hearing we will hear- and stolen the election. later in this hearing we will hear from . this hearing we will hear from one of the _ this hearing we will hear from one of the election _ this hearing we will hear from one of the election workers _ this hearing we will hear from one of the election workers in - this hearing we will hear from one of the election workers in this - of the election workers in this video— of the election workers in this video about _ of the election workers in this video about the _ of the election workers in this video about the effect - of the election workers in this video about the effect these i of the election workers in this i video about the effect these lies had on _ video about the effect these lies had on her— video about the effect these lies had on her aunt _ video about the effect these lies had on her aunt on _ video about the effect these lies had on her aunt on her- video about the effect these lies had on her aunt on her family. l video about the effect these liesi had on her aunt on her family. mr sterling, — had on her aunt on her family. mr sterling, did _ had on her aunt on her family. mr sterling, did the _ had on her aunt on her family. mr sterling, did the investigators- had on her aunt on her family. mr sterling, did the investigators in. sterling, did the investigators in your office — sterling, did the investigators in your office review— sterling, did the investigators in your office review the _ sterling, did the investigators in your office review the entire - your office review the entire surveillance _ your office review the entire surveillance tape _ your office review the entire surveillance tape from - your office review the entire surveillance tape from the l your office review the entire - surveillance tape from the state farm _ surveillance tape from the state farm arena _ surveillance tape from the state farm arena on— surveillance tape from the state farm arena on election - surveillance tape from the state farm arena on election i? - surveillance tape from the state farm arena on election i? theyl farm arena on election i? they actually reviewed _ farm arena on election i? they actually reviewed at _ farm arena on election i?- actually reviewed at approximately 48 hours going over the time. with more action was taking place at the counting centre and state farm arena. what did the tape actually show? depending on which time you want to start because as mentioned, the conspiracy theory took on a life of its own. they conflated a water main break, the was not a water main
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break. and throwing observers out at other things where it actually showed was fulton county election workers engaging in normal ballot processing. one of the specific things, one of the things it was very frustrating was the so—called suitcases of ballots from under the table. if you watch the entirety of the video, you saw that these were election workers who were under the impression they were going to get to go home around ten or 1030. people are putting on their coats, they're putting ballot set are prepared to be scanned into ballot carriers that are sealed so you cannot mess with. it's an interesting thing because you watch, four screens of the video as you watch see the election monitors in the corner with the press as they are taking these under the table, you see if they are. warm air of the other hidden ones, if you look at the actual tape was on the outside of the table just from the camera angle he couldn't see it originally and this goes under the
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note good deed goes unpunished, we were told that as a secretary pointed out, we were told they look like they were shutting down the fulton county county. the secretary this and pleasure because everybody could get to the results and know what was happening. our elections director call their elections director call their elections director who is at another location because this was election day, there were two different places where ballot things were being done by the fulton county office. he called the elections of fulton who called ralph jones was at the state farm arena and said, what the heck are you doing, go ahead and stay. as you walk the video itself you see him take the phone calls as people are putting things away, getting ready to leave, you could sell for about 15 or 20 seconds he does not want to tell these people they have to say. he walks over, thinks about it, you see them come back to the corner of the desk and slumped shoulders and say, ok we've got to keep on counting. you see them take their coats, get the ballots out.
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secondary, you'll see on there you'll see people counting ballots who a batch will go through, they will take them off and run better again. what happens there is a standard operating procedure, if there's a misalignment, if it doesn't rewrite these are high—speed, high—capacity scanners so if three or four will three after amos can you delete that batch and put it back through again. and by going through the hand tally as a secretary pointed out, we showed if there had been multiple ballots scanned without a corresponding physical balance your accounts would've been a lot higher than the ballots themselves with up by doing hand tally we saw two specific numbers that were met. they hand tally that us to a .1035 off of the total votes cast in .0099% on the margin which is essentially dead on accurate. most academic studies say accurate. most academic studies say a hand tally will have between one or 2% because we use marketing devices were very clear but the voter intended made it a lot easier
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for us to conduct the hand count and show that none of that was true. i show that none of that was true. i understand that when you review these _ understand that when you review these tapes — understand that when you review these tapes and _ understand that when you review these tapes and did _ understand that when you review these tapes and did the - understand that when you review these tapes and did the analysisi understand that when you reviewl these tapes and did the analysis it 'ust these tapes and did the analysis it just proved — these tapes and did the analysis it just proved this _ these tapes and did the analysis it just proved this conspiracy- these tapes and did the analysis it just proved this conspiracy theoryi just proved this conspiracy theory -- disapproved _ just proved this conspiracy theory —— disapproved. you _ just proved this conspiracy theory —— disapproved. you still- just proved this conspiracy theory —— disapproved. you still had - just proved this conspiracy theory —— disapproved. you still had to. —— disapproved. you still had to take _ —— disapproved. you still had to take a _ —— disapproved. you still had to take a lot — —— disapproved. you still had to take a lot of— —— disapproved. you still had to take a lot of steps _ —— disapproved. you still had to take a lot of steps to _ —— disapproved. you still had to take a lot of steps to make - —— disapproved. you still had toj take a lot of steps to make sure —— disapproved. you still had to- take a lot of steps to make sure the public _ take a lot of steps to make sure the public knew — take a lot of steps to make sure the public knew these _ take a lot of steps to make sure the public knew these allegations - take a lot of steps to make sure the public knew these allegations and l public knew these allegations and you did _ public knew these allegations and you did frequent _ public knew these allegations and you did frequent briefings - public knew these allegations and you did frequent briefings for- public knew these allegations and you did frequent briefings for the| you did frequent briefings for the press _ you did frequent briefings for the press let's— you did frequent briefings for the press. let's take _ you did frequent briefings for the press. let's take a _ you did frequent briefings for the press. let's take a look - you did frequent briefings for the press. let's take a look at - you did frequent briefings for the press. let's take a look at one i press. let's take a look at one of those _ press. let's take a look at one of those present— press. let's take a look at one of those present briefings- press. let's take a look at one of those present briefings that - press. let's take a look at one of those present briefings that youi those present briefings that you held on— those present briefings that you held on december— those present briefings that you held on december seven- those present briefings that you held on december seven to - those present briefings that you. held on december seven to make those present briefings that you - held on december seven to make the point that— held on december seven to make the point that you — held on december seven to make the point that you just _ held on december seven to make the point that you just did _ held on december seven to make the point that you just did today. - held on december seven to make the point that you just did today. i - point that you just did today. move on to what all call this information monday. out of the gate, many of you all saw the video tape from state farm arenas, i spent hours with her certified investigators, spent hours with us going over this video to explain to people that what you saw, the secret suitcases of magic ballots were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee ballot carriers by the workers in plain
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view of the monitors and the press. what's really frustrating is the presidents attorneys had the same video tape, they saw the exact same things the rest of us could say and they chose to mislead senators and the publics that what was on that video. i'm quite sure they will not characterise the video if they try to enter it into evidence because thatis to enter it into evidence because that is a kind of thing that lead to sanctions. it's obviously untrue. they knew it was untrue and they continue to do things like this. mr sterling, despite the efforts by your office _ sterling, despite the efforts by your office to _ sterling, despite the efforts by your office to combat - sterling, despite the efforts by your office to combat this - your office to combat this misinformation, - your office to combat this misinformation, by- your office to combat this i misinformation, by speaking your office to combat this - misinformation, by speaking out publicly— misinformation, by speaking out publiclv in— misinformation, by speaking out publicly in local— misinformation, by speaking out publicly in local media _ misinformation, by speaking out publicly in local media you - misinformation, by speaking out publicly in local media you are l publicly in local media you are unable — publicly in local media you are unable to— publicly in local media you are unable to match _ publicly in local media you are unable to match the _ publicly in local media you are unable to match the reach - publicly in local media you are unable to match the reach of. unable to match the reach of president _ unable to match the reach of president trump's _ unable to match the reach of president trump's platform l unable to match the reach of. president trump's platform and social— president trump's platform and social media _ president trump's platform and social media megaphone - president trump's platform and - social media megaphone spreading measles _ social media megaphone spreading measles conspiracy— social media megaphone spreading measles conspiracy theories. - social media megaphone spreading measles conspiracy theories. what| measles conspiracy theories. what was it— measles conspiracy theories. what was it like — measles conspiracy theories. what was it like to — measles conspiracy theories. what was it like to compete _ measles conspiracy theories. what was it like to compete with - measles conspiracy theories. what was it like to compete with the - was it like to compete with the president— was it like to compete with the president who _ was it like to compete with the president who had _ was it like to compete with the president who had the - was it like to compete with the president who had the biggest| was it like to compete with the - president who had the biggest bully pulpit _ president who had the biggest bully pulpit in _ president who had the biggest bully pulpit in the — president who had the biggest bully pulpit in the world _ president who had the biggest bully pulpit in the world to _ president who had the biggest bully pulpit in the world to push - president who had the biggest bully pulpit in the world to push out - pulpit in the world to push out these — pulpit in the world to push out these false _ pulpit in the world to push out these false claims? _ pulpit in the world to push out these false claims? for- pulpit in the world to push out these false claims?— pulpit in the world to push out these false claims? for lack of a better word. _ these false claims? for lack of a better word, it _ these false claims? for lack of a better word, it was _ these false claims? for lack of a better word, it was frustrating. l these false claims? for lack of a i better word, it was frustrating. but often times i felt our information
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was getting out but there was a reticence of people who needed to believe it because the president of the united states, who many looked up the united states, who many looked up to and respected was telling them it wasn't true. despite the facts and i am characterise a one point was kind of like a shovel into the ocean. yes, it was frustrating. do you have family members who i had to argue with about some of these things and i would show them things in the problem you have is you get into peoples hearts. i remember one specific attorney that we know showed him, walked him through, this wasn't true, ok i got to true, five or six things and at the end he goes, ijust know in my heart they cheated. once you get past the heart, the facts don't matter as much. ourjob from our point of view was to get the facts out, do our
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job, tell the truth, follow the constitution, follow the law and defend the institutions. in the institutions held.— defend the institutions. in the institutions held. let's take a look at what you _ institutions held. let's take a look at what you are — institutions held. let's take a look at what you are competing - institutions held. let's take a look at what you are competing with. l institutions held. let's take a look i at what you are competing with. this is the _ at what you are competing with. this is the former— at what you are competing with. this is the former president _ at what you are competing with. this is the former president speaking - at what you are competing with. this is the former president speaking in l is the former president speaking in georgia _ is the former president speaking in georgia on— is the former president speaking in georgia on december— is the former president speaking in georgia on december five. - is the former president speaking in georgia on december five. evidence of fraud is overwhelming _ georgia on december five. evidence of fraud is overwhelming and - georgia on december five. evidence of fraud is overwhelming and again, j of fraud is overwhelming and again, and will— of fraud is overwhelming and again, and will ask— of fraud is overwhelming and again, and will ask you look up at that very. _ and will ask you look up at that very. very— and will ask you look up at that very, very powerful inexpensive screen~ — very, very powerful inexpensive screen. ., , very, very powerful inexpensive screen. . , ., very, very powerful inexpensive screen. . screen. hating cases are possible ballots are _ screen. hating cases are possible ballots are rolled _ screen. hating cases are possible ballots are rolled out _ screen. hating cases are possible ballots are rolled out from - screen. hating cases are possible ballots are rolled out from under| screen. hating cases are possiblel ballots are rolled out from under a table for the four people and a cloud of suspicion. so table for the four people and a cloud of suspicion.— table for the four people and a cloud of suspicion. so if you 'ust take the crime i cloud of suspicion. so if you 'ust take the crime offi cloud of suspicion. so if you 'ust take the crime of what i cloud of suspicion. so if you just take the crime of what those - take the crime of what those democratic workers were doing, by the way, _ democratic workers were doing, by the way, there was no water main break. _ the way, there was no water main break, there was no water main break~ — break, there was no water main break. that's ten times more than i need _ break. that's ten times more than i need to— break. that's ten times more than i need to win — break. that's ten times more than i need to win this state, ten times more _ need to win this state, ten times more it's— need to win this state, ten times more. it's ten times, maybe more than _ more. it's ten times, maybe more than that, — more. it's ten times, maybe more than that, that may be more because we lost _ than that, that may be more because we lost by— than that, that may be more because we lost by a — than that, that may be more because we lost by a very close number. this committees — we lost by a very close number. this committees hearing last monday we
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heard _ committees hearing last monday we heard from — committees hearing last monday we heard from c— note _ committees hearing last monday we heard from c—note federal— committees hearing last monday we heard from c— note federal law - heard from c— note federal law enforcement _ heard from c— note federal law enforcement officials - heard from c— note federal law enforcement officials —— - heard from c— note federal law| enforcement officials —— senior federal— enforcement officials —— senior federal law— enforcement officials —— senior federal law enforcement - enforcement officials —— senior. federal law enforcement officials, us attorney — federal law enforcement officials, us attorney for _ federal law enforcement officials, us attorney for the _ federal law enforcement officials, us attorney for the northern - us attorney for the northern district — us attorney for the northern district as— us attorney for the northern district as well— us attorney for the northern district as well as _ us attorney for the northern district as well as former- us attorney for the northern - district as well as former attorney general— district as well as former attorney general bill — district as well as former attorney general bill barr. _ district as well as former attorney general bill barr. they— district as well as former attorney general bill barr. they both - general bill barr. they both testified _ general bill barr. they both testified that _ general bill barr. they both testified that the _ general bill barr. they both| testified that the allegations general bill barr. they both - testified that the allegations were thoroughly— testified that the allegations were thoroughly investigated _ testified that the allegations were thoroughly investigated and - testified that the allegations werej thoroughly investigated and found testified that the allegations were i thoroughly investigated and found to have no— thoroughly investigated and found to have no merit — thoroughly investigated and found to have no merit. here _ thoroughly investigated and found to have no merit. here is _ thoroughly investigated and found to have no merit. here is us— thoroughly investigated and found to have no merit. here is us attorney. have no merit. here is us attorney pack~ _ have no merit. here is us attorney pack~ i'o_ have no merit. here is us attorney ack. ., , 1, ., have no merit. here is us attorney ack. ., , i, ., pack. to terry barr, told we looked into it, pack. to terry barr, told we looked into it. we've _ pack. to terry barr, told we looked into it, we've done _ pack. to terry barr, told we looked into it, we've done several- pack. to terry barr, told we looked into it, we've done several things l into it, we've done several things including — into it, we've done several things including interviewing the witnesses, i listen to the tapes... reviewed — witnesses, i listen to the tapes... reviewed the tapes myself and there was nothing there. giuliani was wrong, — was nothing there. giuliani was wrong, it— was nothing there. giuliani was wrong, it was a suitcase full of ballots — wrong, it was a suitcase full of ballots. �* , . ~ ., , ballots. here's what attorney general bill _ ballots. here's what attorney general bill barr _ ballots. here's what attorney general bill barr said - ballots. here's what attorney general bill barr said about l ballots. here's what attorney l general bill barr said about the same _ general bill barr said about the same allegations. _ general bill barr said about the same allegations. we - general bill barr said about the same allegations.— general bill barr said about the same allegations. we took a hard look at this _ same allegations. we took a hard look at this ourselves _ same allegations. we took a hard look at this ourselves and - same allegations. we took a hard look at this ourselves and based l same allegations. we took a hard i look at this ourselves and based on our review— look at this ourselves and based on our review of it, including the interviews _ our review of it, including the interviews of the key witnesses the
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fulton _ interviews of the key witnesses the fulton county allegations had no merit _ fulton county allegations had no merit. ~ . . fulton county allegations had no merit. . . , ., , fulton county allegations had no merit. ~ . . , ., , ., merit. we also have testimony from senior department _ merit. we also have testimony from senior department justice _ merit. we also have testimony from senior department justice officials . senior department justice officials that they— senior department justice officials that they specifically— senior department justice officials that they specifically told - that they specifically told president _ that they specifically told president trump's - that they specifically told president trump's these i that they specifically told _ president trump's these allegations have been— president trump's these allegations have been thoroughly _ president trump's these allegations have been thoroughly investigated. have been thoroughly investigated and were — have been thoroughly investigated and were completely _ have been thoroughly investigated and were completely without i have been thoroughly investigated. and were completely without merit. here is _ and were completely without merit. here is acting — and were completely without merit. here is acting attorney _ and were completely without merit. here is acting attorney deputy- here is acting attorney deputy attorney— here is acting attorney deputy attorney general _ here is acting attorney deputy attorney general richard i here is acting attorney deputy- attorney general richard donahue describing — attorney general richard donahue describing a — attorney general richard donahue describing a phone _ attorney general richard donahue describing a phone conversation. attorney general richard donahuej describing a phone conversation in which _ describing a phone conversation in which he _ describing a phone conversation in which he specifically— describing a phone conversation in which he specifically told - describing a phone conversation in| which he specifically told president trump _ which he specifically told president trump that— which he specifically told president trump that these _ which he specifically told president trump that these allegations i which he specifically told president trump that these allegations were | trump that these allegations were false _ trump that these allegations were false. he— trump that these allegations were false. ., trump that these allegations were false. . ., false. he fixating on their suitcases. _ false. he fixating on their suitcases. supposedly i false. he fixating on their suitcases. supposedly a l false. he fixating on their- suitcases. supposedly a fraudulent ballots _ suitcases. supposedly a fraudulent ballots and were rolled out from under _ ballots and were rolled out from under the — ballots and were rolled out from under the table and i said, no sir, there— under the table and i said, no sir, there is— under the table and i said, no sir, there is no— under the table and i said, no sir, there is no suitcase, you can watch a video— there is no suitcase, you can watch a video over— there is no suitcase, you can watch a video over and over, there is no suitcase~ — a video over and over, there is no suitcase. there is a real been where they kept— suitcase. there is a real been where they kept — suitcase. there is a real been where they kept ---— they kept --. where they carry the ballots. they kept --. where they carry the ballots- no — they kept --. where they carry the ballots. no matter— they kept --. where they carry the ballots. no matter how _ they kept --. where they carry the ballots. no matter how many - they kept --. where they carry the | ballots. no matter how many times senior— ballots. no matter how many times senior department _ ballots. no matter how many times senior department officials - senior department officials including _ senior department officials including his _ senior department officials including his own- senior department officials including his own attorney| senior department officials - including his own attorney general told the _ including his own attorney general told the president _ including his own attorney general told the president that _ including his own attorney general told the president that these i told the president that these allegations _ told the president that these
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allegations were _ told the president that these allegations were not - told the president that these allegations were not true i told the president that these - allegations were not true president trump _ allegations were not true president trump kept — allegations were not true president trump kept promoting _ allegations were not true president trump kept promoting these - allegations were not true president trump kept promoting these liesi allegations were not true president i trump kept promoting these lies and putting _ trump kept promoting these lies and putting pressure _ trump kept promoting these lies and putting pressure on— trump kept promoting these lies and putting pressure on state _ trump kept promoting these lies and putting pressure on state officials- putting pressure on state officials to accept — putting pressure on state officials to accept them _ putting pressure on state officials to accept them. on _ putting pressure on state officials to accept them. on january- putting pressure on state officials to accept them. on january two . putting pressure on state officials. to accept them. on january two the president— to accept them. on january two the president had — to accept them. on january two the president had a _ to accept them. on january two the president had a lengthy— to accept them. on january two the president had a lengthy telephonel president had a lengthy telephone conversation — president had a lengthy telephone conversation with— president had a lengthy telephone conversation with senator- president had a lengthy telephone conversation with senator brad i conversation with senator brad raffensperger _ conversation with senator brad raffensperger. president- conversation with senator brad raffensperger. president to i conversation with senator brad i raffensperger. president to enact pride _ raffensperger. president to enact pride to— raffensperger. president to enact pride to the — raffensperger. president to enact pride to the call— raffensperger. president to enact pride to the call and _ raffensperger. president to enact pride to the call and want - raffensperger. president to enact pride to the call and want to i raffensperger. president to enact| pride to the call and want to share some _ pride to the call and want to share some important— pride to the call and want to share some important contacts - pride to the call and want to share some important contacts with i pride to the call and want to sharej some important contacts with first the white — some important contacts with first the white house _ some important contacts with first the white house and _ some important contacts with first the white house and the - some important contacts with first. the white house and the presidents chief of— the white house and the presidents chief of staff — the white house and the presidents chief of staff mark _ the white house and the presidents chief of staff mark meadows - chief of staff mark meadows repeatedly _ chief of staff mark meadows repeatedly called _ chief of staff mark meadows repeatedly called or- chief of staff mark meadows repeatedly called or texted i chief of staff mark meadows i repeatedly called or texted the secretaries _ repeatedly called or texted the secretaries office _ repeatedly called or texted the secretaries office some - repeatedly called or texted the secretaries office some 18 i repeatedly called or texted the i secretaries office some 18 times in order— secretaries office some 18 times in order to _ secretaries office some 18 times in order to set — secretaries office some 18 times in order to set up _ secretaries office some 18 times in order to set up this _ secretaries office some 18 times in order to set up this call. _ secretaries office some 18 times in order to set up this call. they- secretaries office some 18 times in| order to set up this call. they were quite persistent~ _ order to set up this call. they were quite persistent. 2nd, _ order to set up this call. they were quite persistent. 2nd, chief- order to set up this call. they were quite persistent. 2nd, chief of- quite persistent. 2nd, chief of staff— quite persistent. 2nd, chief of staff mark— quite persistent. 2nd, chief of staff mark meadows - quite persistent. 2nd, chief of staff mark meadows took i quite persistent. 2nd, chief of staff mark meadows took the i staff mark meadows took the extraordinary _ staff mark meadows took the extraordinary step _ staff mark meadows took the extraordinary step of- staff mark meadows took the | extraordinary step of showing staff mark meadows took the i extraordinary step of showing up at a signature — extraordinary step of showing up at a signature on _ extraordinary step of showing up at a signature on a _ extraordinary step of showing up at a signature on a site _ extraordinary step of showing up at a signature on a site in— extraordinary step of showing up at a signature on a site in georgia i a signature on a site in georgia where — a signature on a site in georgia where he — a signature on a site in georgia where he met— a signature on a site in georgia where he met with _ a signature on a site in georgia where he met with member- a signature on a site in georgia l where he met with member dues a signature on a site in georgia - where he met with member dues chief investigator— where he met with member dues chief investigator francis— where he met with member dues chief investigator francis watson _ where he met with member dues chief investigator francis watson who - where he met with member dues chief investigator francis watson who was l investigator francis watson who was supervising — investigator francis watson who was supervising that _ investigator francis watson who was supervising that audit _ investigator francis watson who was supervising that audit process. i supervising that audit process. behind — supervising that audit process. behind me _ supervising that audit process. behind me is— supervising that audit process. behind me is a _ supervising that audit process. behind me is a photograph i supervising that audit process. i behind me is a photograph from that visit. behind me is a photograph from that visit third. — behind me is a photograph from that visit. third, the _ behind me is a photograph from that visit. third, the day— behind me is a photograph from that visit. third, the day after— behind me is a photograph from that visit. third, the day after meadows l visit. third, the day after meadows georgia _ visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit — visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit he _ visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit he set— visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit he set up— visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit he set up a _ visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit he set up a call- georgia visit he set up a call between _ georgia visit he set up a call between president - georgia visit he set up a call between president trump i georgia visit he set up a call. between president trump and georgia visit he set up a call- between president trump and francis watson _ between president trump and francis watson on _ between president trump and francis watson on the — between president trump and francis watson on the call _ between president trump and francis watson on the call between - between president trump and francis| watson on the call between president trump _ watson on the call between president trump in _
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watson on the call between president trump in georgia _ watson on the call between president trump in georgia investigator- watson on the call between president trump in georgia investigator ranch i trump in georgia investigator ranch is watson _ trump in georgia investigator ranch is watson the — trump in georgia investigator ranch is watson the former— trump in georgia investigator ranch is watson the former president i is watson the former president continue — is watson the former president continue to— is watson the former president continue to push _ is watson the former president continue to push the _ is watson the former president continue to push the false i is watson the former presidenti continue to push the false claim that he — continue to push the false claim that he had _ continue to push the false claim that he had won _ continue to push the false claim that he had won the _ continue to push the false claim that he had won the state - continue to push the false claim that he had won the state of- that he had won the state of georgia _ that he had won the state of georgia. let's _ that he had won the state of georgia. let's listen - that he had won the state of georgia. let's listen to i that he had won the state of georgia. let's listen to thatl that he had won the state of- georgia. let's listen to that part of the _ georgia. let's listen to that part of the conversation. _ and this next clip he told the state law enforcement _ and this next clip he told the state law enforcement official— and this next clip he told the state law enforcement official that i and this next clip he told the state law enforcement official that she i law enforcement official that she had be _ law enforcement official that she had be praised _ law enforcement official that she had be praised if— law enforcement official that she had be praised if she _ law enforcement official that she had be praised if she found i law enforcement official that she had be praised if she found the l had be praised if she found the right— had be praised if she found the right answer _
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brad raffensperger, i know that you worked _ brad raffensperger, i know that you worked on _ brad raffensperger, i know that you worked on this— brad raffensperger, i know that you worked on this call— brad raffensperger, i know that you worked on this call that _ brad raffensperger, i know that you worked on this call that you - worked on this call that you had listened — worked on this call that you had listened to— worked on this call that you had listened to it. _ worked on this call that you had listened to it. president- worked on this call that you had| listened to it. president trump's didn't— listened to it. president trump's didn't win — listened to it. president trump's didn't win by— listened to it. president trump's didn't win by hundreds - listened to it. president trump's didn't win by hundreds of- listened to it. president trump's- didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes _ didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in _ didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia _ didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia did _ didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia did he? - didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia did he? ho, - didn't win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia did he?- of votes in georgia did he? no, he did not. of votes in georgia did he? no, he did not- we _ of votes in georgia did he? no, he did not. i've been _ of votes in georgia did he? no, he did not. i've been travelling - did not. i've been travelling through the state of georgia for eight years now. simply put in a nutshell, what happened in the fall of 2020 is that 28,000 georgians skipped the presidential race and yet they voted down ballot and other races. and the republican congressmen ended up getting 33,000 more votes than president trump. and that's what president trump came up short. ., ~ that's what president trump came up short. . ,, , ., that's what president trump came up short. ., ~' ,, ~ that's what president trump came up short. . ~ short. thank you mr secretary. the resident short. thank you mr secretary. the president on _ short. thank you mr secretary. the president on this _ short. thank you mr secretary. the president on this call _ short. thank you mr secretary. the president on this call doesn't - short. thank you mr secretary. the president on this call doesn't stop. president on this call doesn't stop there _ president on this call doesn't stop there let's— president on this call doesn't stop there. let's listen _ president on this call doesn't stop there. let's listen to _ president on this call doesn't stop there. let's listen to another- president on this call doesn't stop there. let's listen to another part| there. let's listen to another part of the _ there. let's listen to another part of the conversation _ there. let's listen to another part of the conversation between - of the conversation between president _ of the conversation between president trump _ of the conversation between president trump and - of the conversation between president trump and ms. i of the conversation between - president trump and ms. watson.
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whatever you can do, francis. this is the _ whatever you can do, francis. this is the president— whatever you can do, francis. this is the president of— whatever you can do, francis. this is the president of the _ whatever you can do, francis. this is the president of the united - is the president of the united states— is the president of the united states calling _ is the president of the united states calling it _ is the president of the united states calling it an _ is the president of the united i states calling it an investigator looking — states calling it an investigator looking into _ states calling it an investigator looking into the _ states calling it an investigator looking into the election - states calling it an investigator looking into the election in- states calling it an investigator l looking into the election in which he is _ looking into the election in which he is a _ looking into the election in which he is a candidate _ looking into the election in which he is a candidate and _ looking into the election in which he is a candidate and asking - looking into the election in which he is a candidate and asking heri looking into the election in which i he is a candidate and asking her to do, he is a candidate and asking her to do. "whatever— he is a candidate and asking her to do, "whatever you _ he is a candidate and asking her to do, "whatever you can— he is a candidate and asking her to do, "whatever you can do". - he is a candidate and asking her to do, "whatever you can do". mr- he is a candidate and asking her to . do, "whatever you can do". mr sec., he pieces— do, "whatever you can do". mr sec., he pieces catt— do, "whatever you can do". mr sec., he places call on— do, "whatever you can do". mr sec., he places call on september- do, "whatever you can do". mr sec., he places call on september 23, - he places call on september 23, 2020, _ he places call on september 23, 2020, that— he places call on september 23, 2020, that committee - he places call on september 23, 2020, that committee has- he places call on september 23, i 2020, that committee has received text messages— 2020, that committee has received text messages indicating _ 2020, that committee has received text messages indicating mark- text messages indicating mark meadows _ text messages indicating mark meadows wanted _ text messages indicating mark meadows wanted to _ text messages indicating mark meadows wanted to send - text messages indicating markl meadows wanted to send some text messages indicating mark- meadows wanted to send some of the investigators — meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in— meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in her— meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in her office _ meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in her office and - meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in her office and the - investigators in her office and the words _ investigators in her office and the words of— investigators in her office and the words of one _ investigators in her office and the words of one white _ investigators in her office and the words of one white house - investigators in her office and the words of one white house aide, i investigators in her office and thei words of one white house aide, a shiptoad — words of one white house aide, a shiptoad of— words of one white house aide, a shipload of potus _ words of one white house aide, a shipload of potus stuff _ words of one white house aide, a shipload of potus stuff and - words of one white house aide, a i shipload of potus stuff and corded coins. _ shipload of potus stuff and corded coins. mega- — shipload of potus stuff and corded coins, mega— hats— shipload of potus stuff and corded coins, mega— hats etc— shipload of potus stuff and corded coins, mega— hats etc for- shipload of potus stuff and corded coins, mega— hats etc for the - shipload of potus stuff and corded | coins, mega— hats etc for the white house _ coins, mega— hats etc for the white house staff— coins, mega— hats etc for the white house staff intervened _ coins, mega— hats etc for the white house staff intervened to _ coins, mega— hats etc for the white house staff intervened to make - coins, mega— hats etc for the white | house staff intervened to make sure that didn't _ house staff intervened to make sure that didn't happen. _ house staff intervened to make sure that didn't happen. it _ house staff intervened to make sure that didn't happen. it was _ house staff intervened to make sure that didn't happen. it was clear- house staff intervened to make sure that didn't happen. it was clear at. that didn't happen. it was clear at the time — that didn't happen. it was clear at the time of— that didn't happen. it was clear at the time of this _ that didn't happen. it was clear at the time of this call— that didn't happen. it was clear at the time of this call that - that didn't happen. it was clear at the time of this call that the - the time of this call that the former— the time of this call that the former president _ the time of this call that the former president had - the time of this call that the former president had his- the time of this call that the i former president had his sights the time of this call that the - former president had his sights set onjanuary— former president had his sights set on january six. _ former president had his sights set on january six. listen _ former president had his sights set on january six. listen to _ former president had his sights set on january six. listen to this - on january six. listen to this portion— on january six. listen to this portion when _ on january six. listen to this portion when he _ on january six. listen to this portion when he told - on january six. listen to this portion when he told francis on january six. listen to this - portion when he told francis watson about _ portion when he told francis watson about a _ portion when he told francis watson about a very — portion when he told francis watson about a very important _ portion when he told francis watson about a very important date. -
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that important date of course was a 'oint that important date of course was a joint session — that important date of course was a joint session of— that important date of course was a joint session of congress _ that important date of course was a joint session of congress where - joint session of congress where george's— joint session of congress where george's electoral— joint session of congress where george's electoral cup - joint session of congress where george's electoral cup would i joint session of congress where| george's electoral cup would be counted — george's electoral cup would be counted for— george's electoral cup would be counted forjoe _ george's electoral cup would be counted forjoe biden. - george's electoral cup would be counted forjoe biden. a - george's electoral cup would be counted forjoe biden. a little . george's electoral cup would be i counted forjoe biden. a little over a week— counted forjoe biden. a little over a week after— counted forjoe biden. a little over a week after this _ counted forjoe biden. a little over a week after this call _ counted forjoe biden. a little over a week after this call to _ counted forjoe biden. a little over a week after this call to francis - a week after this call to francis watson — a week after this call to francis watson the _ a week after this call to francis watson the president - a week after this call to francis watson the president was - a week after this call to francisi watson the president was finally able watson the president was finally abte to— watson the president was finally able to use _ watson the president was finally able to use beak— watson the president was finally able to use beak with _ watson the president was finally able to use beak with sec. - able to use beak with sec. raffensperger. _ able to use beak with sec. raffensperger. bear- able to use beak with sec. raffensperger. bear in - able to use beak with sec. i raffensperger. bear in mind, able to use beak with sec. - raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed _ raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed the — raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed the so _ raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed the so called _ raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed the so called today- raffensperger. bear in mind, as we discussed the so called today and l raffensperger. bear in mind, as wel discussed the so called today and by this point— discussed the so called today and by this point in— discussed the so called today and by this point in time _ discussed the so called today and by this point in time in— discussed the so called today and by this point in time in early— discussed the so called today and by this point in time in earlyjanuary. this point in time in earlyjanuary the election— this point in time in earlyjanuary the election in georgia _ this point in time in earlyjanuary the election in georgia had - this point in time in earlyjanuary. the election in georgia had already been certified _ the election in georgia had already been certified but _ the election in georgia had already been certified but perhaps- the election in georgia had already been certified but perhaps more i been certified but perhaps more important. the _ been certified but perhaps more important, the president - been certified but perhaps more important, the president of- been certified but perhaps more important, the president of the| important, the president of the united — important, the president of the united states— important, the president of the united states had _ important, the president of the united states had already- important, the president of the united states had already beenj important, the president of the - united states had already been told repeatedly — united states had already been told repeatedly by — united states had already been told repeatedly by his _ united states had already been told repeatedly by his own _ united states had already been told repeatedly by his own top _ united states had already been told repeatedly by his own top justice i repeatedly by his own top justice department— repeatedly by his own top justice department officials— repeatedly by his own top justice department officials that - repeatedly by his own top justice department officials that the - repeatedly by his own top justice i department officials that the claims he was _ department officials that the claims he was about— department officials that the claims he was about to _ department officials that the claims he was about to make _ department officials that the claims he was about to make to _ department officials that the claims he was about to make to you - department officials that the claims he was about to make to you about| he was about to make to you about massive _ he was about to make to you about massive fraud _ he was about to make to you about massive fraud in _ he was about to make to you about massive fraud in georgia _ he was about to make to you about massive fraud in georgia were - massive fraud in georgia were completely— massive fraud in georgia were completely false. _ massive fraud in georgia were completely false. mr- massive fraud in georgia were completely false. mr sec., - massive fraud in georgia were | completely false. mr sec., the massive fraud in georgia were - completely false. mr sec., the call between _ completely false. mr sec., the call between you — completely false. mr sec., the call between you and _ completely false. mr sec., the call between you and the _ completely false. mr sec., the call between you and the president - completely false. mr sec., the call. between you and the president lasted 67 minutes, _ between you and the president lasted 67 minutes, over— between you and the president lasted 67 minutes, over in— between you and the president lasted 67 minutes, over in our. _ between you and the president lasted 67 minutes, over in our. we - 67 minutes, over in our. we obviously— 67 minutes, over in our. we obviously can't _ 67 minutes, over in our. we obviously can't listen - 67 minutes, over in our. we obviously can't listen to - 67 minutes, over in our. we obviously can't listen to the| 67 minutes, over in our. we - obviously can't listen to the entire recording — obviously can't listen to the entire recording today— obviously can't listen to the entire recording today although - obviously can't listen to the entire recording today although it - obviously can't listen to the entire recording today although it is - recording today although it is available _ recording today although it is available on _ recording today although it is available on the _ recording today although it is - available on the committee website. we witt— available on the committee website. we will listen — available on the committee website. we will listen to _ available on the committee website. we will listen to selected _ available on the committee website. we will listen to selected excerpts . we will listen to selected excerpts of it now _ we will listen to selected excerpts of it now so — we will listen to selected excerpts of it now so we _ we will listen to selected excerpts of it now so we can _ we will listen to selected excerpts of it now so we can get _ we will listen to selected excerpts of it now so we can get your - of it now so we can get your insights _ of it now so we can get your insights. let's _ of it now so we can get your insights. let's begin- of it now so we can get your insights. let's begin with i of it now so we can get yourl insights. let's begin with the president— insights. let's begin with the
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president raising _ insights. let's begin with the president raising the - insights. let's begin with the i president raising the thoroughly debunked — president raising the thoroughly debunked allegations— president raising the thoroughly debunked allegations of- president raising the thoroughly. debunked allegations of suitcases president raising the thoroughly- debunked allegations of suitcases of ballots _ these are the allegation that the department— these are the allegation that the department of— these are the allegation that the department ofjustice, _ these are the allegation that the department ofjustice, the - these are the allegation that the . department ofjustice, the georgia bureau _ department ofjustice, the georgia bureau of— department ofjustice, the georgia bureau of investigation _ department ofjustice, the georgia bureau of investigation and - department ofjustice, the georgia bureau of investigation and your. bureau of investigation and your office _ bureau of investigation and your office at— bureau of investigation and your office at att— bureau of investigation and your office at all said _ bureau of investigation and your office at all said were _ bureau of investigation and your office at all said were false, - bureau of investigation and your office at all said were false, is l office at all said were false, is that— office at all said were false, is that right? _ office at all said were false, is that right?— office at all said were false, is that riuht? ., . ~ ., that right? correct. and even more ortl , that right? correct. and even more portly. when _ that right? correct. and even more portly. when 81 _ that right? correct. and even more portly. when 31 pack— that right? correct. and even more portly, when 3] pack redesign - that right? correct. and even more portly, when 3] pack redesign is i that right? correct. and even more j portly, when 3] pack redesign is us portly, when bj pack redesign is us attorney of the northern district president trump appointed as acting bobby christine, bobbi kristina looked at that and he was quoted to the agc that he found nothing and he
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dismissed the case early on. thank ou mr dismissed the case early on. thank you mr sec-- _ dismissed the case early on. thank you mr sec.. the _ dismissed the case early on. thank you mr sec.. the president - you mr sec.. the president references— you mr sec.. the president references suitcases- you mr sec.. the president references suitcases or - you mr sec.. the president- references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, _ references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, were _ references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, were the _ references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, were the objects- references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, were the objects seen. references suitcases or trunks. mr sterling, were the objects seen in| sterling, were the objects seen in these _ sterling, were the objects seen in these videos _ sterling, were the objects seen in these videos suitcases _ sterling, were the objects seen in these videos suitcases or- sterling, were the objects seen in these videos suitcases or trunks i these videos suitcases or trunks over— these videos suitcases or trunks over they— these videos suitcases or trunks over theyiust_ these videos suitcases or trunks over theyjust ordinary- these videos suitcases or trunksi over theyjust ordinary containers that are _ over theyjust ordinary containers that are used _ over theyjust ordinary containers that are used by _ over theyjust ordinary containers that are used by election - over theyjust ordinary containers i that are used by election workers? they are _ that are used by election workers? they are standard _ that are used by election workers? they are standard ballot _ that are used by election workers? they are standard ballot carriers . they are standard ballot carriers that allowed for seals to be put on them _ that allowed for seals to be put on them so _ that allowed for seals to be put on them so they are tamperproof. and finall the them so they are tamperproof. and finally the president claims it was a minimum — finally the president claims it was a minimum of— finally the president claims it was a minimum of 18,000 _ finally the president claims it was a minimum of 18,000 ballots - finally the president claims it was - a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggted _ a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggted in _ a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggted in att— a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggted in all for— a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggled in all for biden. _ a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggled in all for biden. i— a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggled in all for biden. i take - a minimum of 18,000 ballots somehow smuggled in all for biden. i take it - smuggled in all for biden. i take it that that _ smuggled in all for biden. i take it that that was _ smuggled in all for biden. i take it that that was also _ smuggled in all for biden. i take it that that was also categorically- that that was also categorically fatse? — that that was also categorically false? , .,, i, that that was also categorically false? , false? there is no physical way he could know _ false? there is no physical way he could know who _ false? there is no physical way he could know who those _ false? there is no physical way he could know who those ballots - false? there is no physical way he could know who those ballots are | false? there is no physical way he i could know who those ballots are for but secondly, we had fulton county for years— but secondly, we had fulton county for years has been an issue in our state _ for years has been an issue in our state where it comes to alleges double — state where it comes to alleges double they had a very difficult time _ double they had a very difficult time during the primary in large part because of covid so we have put them _ part because of covid so we have put them under— part because of covid so we have put them under a consent degree that the secretary— them under a consent degree that the secretary negotiated where we had a monitor— secretary negotiated where we had a monitor on _ secretary negotiated where we had a monitor on site. his name was carter jones _ monitor on site. his name was carter jones and _ monitor on site. his name was carter jones and he — monitor on site. his name was carter jones and he took a notation, he had gone from _ jones and he took a notation, he had gone from state farm to the english
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street warehouse to look at the election— street warehouse to look at the election activities but before he left cesar marino he noted how many of the _ left cesar marino he noted how many of the ballots had been counted on each one of the machines. when he came _ each one of the machines. when he came back— each one of the machines. when he came back after we found out they were _ came back after we found out they were working again, he took note again— were working again, he took note again when— were working again, he took note again when they close. i believe the final number was something around 8900 _ final number was something around 8900 total ballot scan from the time he left _ 8900 total ballot scan from the time he left at _ 8900 total ballot scan from the time he left at the time about 1231 o'clock— he left at the time about 1231 o'clock in— he left at the time about 1231 o'clock in the morning. way below 18.000 _ o'clock in the morning. way below 18,000. �* , o'clock in the morning. way below 18,000. �*, , o'clock in the morning. way below 18,000. a , . , mrsec., did mr sec. , did somebody mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes _ mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes there — mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes there late _ mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes there late at _ mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes there late at night? _ mr sec., did somebody drop a lot of votes there late at night? -- - votes there late at night? -- secretary. no. _ votes there late at night? -- secretary. no. i— votes there late at night? secretary. no. i believe the president was referring to some of the counties when they would upload for the but the ballots have all been accepted, had to be accepted by state law by seven p:m.. there were no additional ballots excepted after seven p:m.. no additional ballots excepted after seven p:m- -_ seven p:m.. let's play the next clip in which the — seven p:m.. let's play the next clip in which the president _ seven p:m.. let's play the next clip in which the president makes - seven p:m.. let's play the next clip| in which the president makes claims about— in which the president makes claims
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about so—called _ in which the president makes claims about so—called dead _ in which the president makes claims about so—called dead voters. - sec., did your office investigate whether— sec., did your office investigate whether those _ sec., did your office investigate whether those allegations - sec., did your office investigate whether those allegations were | whether those allegations were accurate, — whether those allegations were accurate, the _ whether those allegations were accurate, the 5000 _ whether those allegations were accurate, the 5000 dead - whether those allegations were i accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia _ accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia voted _ accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia voted because _ accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia voted because i— accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia voted because i know, - accurate, the 5000 dead people in georgia voted because i know, it's| georgia voted because i know, it's not accurate _ georgia voted because i know, it's rrot accurate-— not accurate. actually, it's the alle . ed not accurate. actually, it's the alleged 10,315 _ not accurate. actually, it's the alleged 10,315 dead _ not accurate. actually, it's the alleged 10,315 dead people, . not accurate. actually, it's the l alleged 10,315 dead people, we not accurate. actually, it's the - alleged 10,315 dead people, we found two dead people when i wrote my letter to congress that stated that your resection of a subsequent to that we found two more, that's 1, four people not 10,000, not 5000. let's play the next clip.—
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let's play the next clip. there's nothin: let's play the next clip. there's nothing wrong _ let's play the next clip. there's nothing wrong with _ let's play the next clip. there's nothing wrong with saying - let's play the next clip. there's nothing wrong with saying that| let's play the next clip. there's . nothing wrong with saying that you recalculated. in 2010, it 36,000 absentee — recalculated. in 2010, it 36,000 absentee ballots, they are all exact numbers _ absentee ballots, they are all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, _ numbers that were done by accounting firms, law— numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms etc off. even if you cut — firms, law firms etc off. even if you cut them and erica macadam and have it _ you cut them and erica macadam and have it cut _ you cut them and erica macadam and have it cut them in half again, it's more _ have it cut them in half again, it's more votes — have it cut them in half again, it's more votes than we need. mr have it cut them in half again, it's more votes than we need. mr sec. , is there anyway — more votes than we need. mr sec. , is there anyway you _ more votes than we need. mr sec. , is there anyway you could _ more votes than we need. mr sec. , is there anyway you could lawfully - there anyway you could lawfully change — there anyway you could lawfully change the _ there anyway you could lawfully change the result _ there anyway you could lawfully change the result in— there anyway you could lawfully change the result in the - there anyway you could lawfully change the result in the state . there anyway you could lawfully| change the result in the state of georgia — change the result in the state of georgia and _ change the result in the state of georgia and somehow— change the result in the state of georgia and somehow explain . change the result in the state of georgia and somehow explain itj change the result in the state of- georgia and somehow explain it away as a recalculation? _ georgia and somehow explain it away as a recalculation? n0. _ georgia and somehow explain it away as a recalculation?— as a recalculation? no. the numbers on the numbers _ as a recalculation? no. the numbers on the numbers without _ as a recalculation? no. the numbers on the numbers without day - as a recalculation? no. the numbers on the numbers without day four- as a recalculation? no. the numbers on the numbers without day four of. on the numbers without day four of the congressional committee which is looking at the storming of the capitol on january looking at the storming of the capitol onjanuary six looking at the storming of the capitol on january six for that we are watching excerpts of the conversation between the most senior electoral official in the state of georgia and donald trump. thea;r electoral official in the state of georgia and donald trump. they are -la in: georgia and donald trump. they are playing clips — georgia and donald trump. they are playing clips of _ georgia and donald trump. they are playing clips of the _ georgia and donald trump. they are playing clips of the claims _ georgia and donald trump. they are playing clips of the claims the - playing clips of the claims the former president is making. that same senior officialfrom former president is making. that same senior official from georgia former president is making. that same senior officialfrom georgia is refuting those claims one by one for that we will of course keep
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listening across is as it continues. for this edition of outside source, we are out of time. thanks for watching. we will see you soon. hello there. the heat is continuing to build just for a few days, before it becomes cooler this weekend. today, it was the turn of england and wales to see temperatures into the mid 205 in the strong sunshine and blue skies. there's been much more cloud, though, across scotland and northern ireland, so temperatures today not quite as high as they were yesterday. that cloud, though, is continuing to thin, so this evening and into the night, we'll have some patchy cloud for scotland and northern ireland. generally across england and wales, any cloud that wehave at the moment will melt away and we'll have clear skies. temperatures typically overnight 11—12. could be a little bit milder than that in northern ireland if it stays cloudy here, but i suspect we'll break through that cloud and give some sunshine through the day on wednesday. and more sunshine to come across scotland,
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particularly in the east. the sunnier skies continue to be across england and wales. no wind at all, those temperatures rising rapidly once again, adding a couple of degrees on today's values, so for many, 26—27 degrees. it'll be a warmer day than today in northern ireland and much warmer, i think, for eastern scotland in the sunshine. but when you do have the sunshine we've got high or even very high grass pollen levels once again tomorrow. the heat is building underneath the clearer skies and light winds, under that area of high pressure, but it's getting eroded a bit on thursday, particularly from that weather front in the south. and that will bring with it some showers. it looks like those are moving a little further north more quickly, through the english channel, into southern england, eventually into south wales, the south midlands, maybe even into east anglia before the end of the day. some sunshine ahead of that, but still some cloud for western scotland and northern ireland, so temperatures quite not so high here. otherwise, another very warm day, but because the showers are moving northwards more quickly, the highest temperatures are going to be pushed further north,
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through the midlands and northern england. and things continue to break down a bit by the end of the week — pressure falling, some heavy showers around, this band of rain approaching the southwest, with cooler air coming in behind that for the weekend. we do have some heavy and potentially thundery showers still from overnight, moving northwards across northern and western parts of the uk, ahead of that band of rain in the southwest later on. so we've got more cloud around to end the week, so temperatures are going to be a little bit lower. but with more sunshine and dry weather for eastern england, it's still going to be very warm. people, you know, the working women and men of this country who want this resolved, and men of this country who want resolved, and that includes railway workers, and that includes people who need to get to hospital, who need to get to work.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 8: most trains at a standstill, and services that did run ending early in the biggest rail strikes in 30 years — fresh talks to try to resolve the dispute are to take place tomorrow. as travellers switched to buses and bicycles to reach their destinations — the prime minister said change to the rail industry is needed. we need to get ready to stay the course, to stay the course, because these reforms, these improvements in the way we run our railways are in the interest of the travelling public. the government could have made a move to settle this dispute, and instead they're escalating it. the lies that they're telling about railway workers and the railway industry are outrageous.
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