this is bbc world news with the headlines. the us supreme court ends the constitutional right to have an abortion. it means the landmark roe versus wade dating back to 50 years has been overturned. this will transform abortion rights in america with individual states now able to ban or restrict the procedure. critics say the ruling is a major setback and a woman's right to choose. president biden and other senior democrats have strongly condemned the decision. the court literally taken _ condemned the decision. the court literally taken america _ condemned the decision. the court literally taken america back - condemned the decision. the court literally taken america back 150 - literally taken america back 150 years. this is a sad day for the country, in my view. and it does not

mean the fight is over. but country, in my view. and it does not mean the fight is over.— mean the fight is over. but senior republicans. _ mean the fight is over. but senior republicans, including _ mean the fight is over. but senior republicans, including former - mean the fight is over. but senior| republicans, including former vice president mike pence and mitch mcconnell welcomed the ruling. hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk, on pbs in the us or around the world millions of women across the united states have lost their constitutional right to abortion, after a ruling of historic significance by the country's supreme court. it has overturned a 50 year law that legalised abortion nationwide — and it now means that individual us states are legally able to ban it. up to half of america's 50 states are expected to do so — and 13 have already passed so—called trigger laws — which automatically outlaw abortion with the court's ruling. president biden has said it was a sad day for the court and for the country. our north america editor sarah smith reports now on an issue — and a decision — which has polarised

the united states. this is a huge, historic moment for america. as they hear the news from the court, there isjubilation from anti—abortionists. life won today! "life won today," they chant, celebrating a victory after almost 50 years. i have seen the devastation that abortion has wrought on our country, on the communal level and then a personal level, and this is so vindicating to know that we can now take tangible steps to lessen the violence of abortion in our country. ten years ago, did you ever| imagine this would happen? i imagined it a lot, but i still... people told me it was impossible, that we would never see this kind of victory, and now i know that victory is not only possible, it happened.

so we are going to work out of this momentum, we are going to keep going, we're going to keep fighting, and we're going to build a better world. fury from those campaigning to keep the guaranteed right to abortion, promising to fight back. it's not the will of the people, and this country's supposed to run off of the will of the people. i'm 21, and i'm terrified! we have a lot of work to do to make that happen, but we will never give up. it's 50 years since there was last a significant decision on abortion rights in america. it might be another 50. it might be 50 more, sure. but we're not going to stop. it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter what they say. again, abortions will continue, theyjust won't be legal, and women will die from botched abortions. it's obvious this ruling is not going to end the arguments over abortion in america. in fact, it will inflame them. in this deeply polarised society, abortion is already one of the most divisive issues. today's ruling means

individual states can make their own laws on abortion. there are 13 states that have so—called trigger laws in place which will now lead to an immediate abortion ban. another 13 will move quickly to ban or severely limit access, says a pro—choice group. it estimates 36 million women of reproductive age will live in states without abortion access. the hypocrisy is raging, but the harm is endless. what this means two women is such an insult, it's a slap what this means to women is such an insult, it's a slap in the face to women about using their own judgment to make their own decisions about their reproductive freedom. the political impact could be felt in elections in november. pro—choice democrats hope women will turn out for them in large numbers.

# jesus loves the little children... anti—abortion activists view today's victory is merely a first step. they will now take their campaigns to every state which allows terminations, trying to get abortion banned in the whole of the united states. let's go live to illinois vice president of the united states where president biden has condemned the ruling as extremist, saying the supreme court had removed rights from americans in a way it had never done before, and taken the country back a century and a half. today, the supreme court of the united states expressly took away a constitutional right of the american people that it had already recognised. it didn't limit it — it simply took it away. that's never been done to a right so important to so many americans, but they did it. it�* a sad day for the court and for the country. it's a sad day for the court and for the country.

now, with roe gone, let's be very clear — the health and life of women in this nation are now at risk. i believe roe v wade was a correct decision as a matter of constitutional law and application of a fundamental right to privacy and liberty in matters of family and personal autonomy. it was a decision on a complex matter that drew a a careful balance matter that drew a careful balance between a woman's right to choose early in her pregnancy and the state's ability to regulate later in her pregnancy. a decision with broad national consensus that most americans of faith and backgrounds found acceptable, and that had been the law of the land for most of the lifetime of americans today. i will do all in my power to protect a women's right in states where they will face the consequences of today's decision. while the court's decision cast a large shadow over

large swaths of the land, many states in this country still recognise a woman's right to choose, so if a woman lives in a state that restricts abortion, the supreme court's decision does not prevent her from travelling from her home state to the state that allows it. it does not prevent a doctor in that state, in that state, from treating her. as the attorney general has made clear, women must remain free to travel safely to another state to seek care they need, and my administration will defend that bedrock right. nomia iqbal is outside the supreme court. we the supreme court. had the draught leak only a fe\ weeks we had the draught leak only a few weeks ago and so, this ruling comes as no surprise but the crowds find you there in the fact that their protest being planned across the country to share how strong the

sentiments are there. protesters have been _ sentiments are there. protesters have been coming _ sentiments are there. protesters have been coming here - sentiments are there. protesters have been coming here ever- sentiments are there. protesters| have been coming here ever since sentiments are there. protesters - have been coming here ever since the draught opinion was leaked in early may in anticipation of this ruling, we knew the supreme court was going to make it next couple of weeks. they made it this morning and have into groups of protesters. the abortion group are very vocal —— anti—abortion. they have largely peeled off. there's up to run a thousand protesters, i would estimate were largely pro—choice and there sat in front of the supreme court in making their voice heard. a 19—year—old student and musician and it's good to have you with us. thank ou for it's good to have you with us. thank you for having _ it's good to have you with us. thank you for having me. _ it's good to have you with us. thank you for having me. i _ it's good to have you with us. thank you for having me. i came _ it's good to have you with us. thank you for having me. i came here - it's good to have you with us. thank you for having me. i came here to i you for having me. i came here to the supreme court of the us to show them _ the supreme court of the us to show them with_ the supreme court of the us to show them with my body and my voice they're _ them with my body and my voice they're not— them with my body and my voice

they're not going to stand for them overturning roe v wade and i'm not going _ overturning roe v wade and i'm not going to _ overturning roe v wade and i'm not going to stand for the subsequent loss of— going to stand for the subsequent loss of human rights across half of this country. loss of human rights across half of this country-— this country. what was your reaction. — this country. what was your reaction. you _ this country. what was your reaction, you knew - this country. what was your reaction, you knew it - this country. what was your reaction, you knew it was . this country. what was your - reaction, you knew it was going to happen, didn't we? but we shocked, how did you feel? i happen, didn't we? but we shocked, how did you feel?— how did you feel? i knew it was auoin to how did you feel? i knew it was going to happen _ how did you feel? i knew it was going to happen and _ how did you feel? i knew it was going to happen and it - how did you feel? i knew it was going to happen and it still hitl going to happen and it still hit really— going to happen and it still hit really hard is a lot of fear for me. i'm from texas. texas in 30 days is going _ i'm from texas. texas in 30 days is going to criminalise abortion starting _ going to criminalise abortion starting at the point of fertilisation. not conception. that means_ fertilisation. not conception. that means doctors want to be spending life sentences in prison from providing _ life sentences in prison from providing abortion care and very afraid _ providing abortion care and very afraid of— providing abortion care and very afraid of the future walking into where _ afraid of the future walking into where our — afraid of the future walking into where our options are so limited. before _ where our options are so limited. before he — where our options are so limited. before he went on air, you're from texas, did you ever leave texas her home state a relay, this is your home state a relay, this is your home state? i home state a relay, this is your home state?— home state a relay, this is your home state? ., �* . ., . home state? i don't want to leave my home. it's home state? i don't want to leave my home- it'sjust _ home state? i don't want to leave my home. it'sjust really _

home state? i don't want to leave my home. it'sjust really sad _ home state? i don't want to leave my home. it'sjust really sad that - home. it'sjust really sad that that's— home. it'sjust really sad that that's really a question that we have _ that's really a question that we have to — that's really a question that we have to ask. when a human rights are being _ have to ask. when a human rights are being taken— have to ask. when a human rights are being taken away is it to leverage and fight — being taken away is it to leverage and fight back against the government from taking our rights. obviously. — government from taking our rights. obviously, you're not a politician but is the next step to keep fighting was ski make your voice heard? what do you think will happen because blue is hard to say the next step is. for me personally right now it's showing up and protesting over and over again stumble up in terms of a longer—term plan, i don't have an exact route that i am seeing. you went viral about a year ago when you gave this speech deer valley victorian and he talked about this issue. just remind people that don't know, what that speech was about to your fellow students?— your fellow students? texas passed the six week — your fellow students? texas passed the six week abortion _ your fellow students? texas passed

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because — actions to induce a miscarriage because abortion was not safe for tegat— because abortion was not safe for legal in _ because abortion was not safe for legal in their areas of the had no other options of those stories are just absolutely horrifying to hear about _ just absolutely horrifying to hear about and in large part, they motivate _ about and in large part, they motivate me as an activist today. and jewelr— motivate me as an activist today. and jewelr work as an activist is going to be about raising your voice. but i'm really curious to know about is you are of voting age. if it's going to be an issue for you when it comes to the midterm elections, the presidential elections, the presidential elections because that's what the democratic party is think it will be. , , ., , democratic party is think it will be. . , democratic party is think it will be. ., ., . be. this is a big part of what i will be voting _ be. this is a big part of what i will be voting for— be. this is a big part of what i will be voting for i _ be. this is a big part of what i will be voting for i think - be. this is a big part of what i will be voting for i think for i be. this is a big part of what i will be voting for i think for a | be. this is a big part of what i i will be voting for i think for a lot of people of my generation and a lot of people of my generation and a lot of people _ of people of my generation and a lot of people in this country in general, _ of people in this country in general, it's going to be a big determining factor and how the vote this election season. —— on how. just _ this election season. —— on how. just realty— this election season. —— on how. just really outlining how she feels about review wade being overturned and her state band abortion six weeks ago but it's one trigger

states which means it automatically will be illegally legalising abortion. and those are pro—choice —— he and those are pro—choice —— illegallising will be curing more from you that the evening. well as we saw in sarah smith's report — there are 13 us states which have laws in place to impose an immediate ban on abortion — now that roe versus wade has been overturned by the supreme court. one of them is arkansas. sophie long reports from an abortion clinic in the state capital, little rock, just a warning her report contains some distressing detail. it was exactly the ruling they'd been dreading. when the decision was delivered, it extinguished their final flickers of hope.

outside, they had to turn women away. abortion is murder. it's just been upheld. inside, they had to deal with the realisation that the care they provided here is now a criminal offence... i don't think there's a waiting period there, but it is about a five—and—a—half— hour drive. ..and tell people they can no longer help. i'd say it's like having to turn women away, like... it sucks. jennifer thompson first came here as a patient. she says her abortion saved her life, and the care she received here inspired her to train so she could do the same for others. and now i have to tell them, i'm sorry, but there's nothing i can do for you. i'm sorry that your boyfriend beats you every day and that he rapes you all the time. there's nothing i can do. you're going to have to find somewhere else to go. i mean, i can give them information to help them try, but it's heartbreaking, man. like, you know, this place

saved my life, literally, and to not be able to provide anybody else with that when i know what this place is capable of, it's heartbreaking, man. for more than ten years, dr willie parker has travelled here from another state because the restrictive laws and the threat of violence or financial ruin has long been too great for local doctors to carry out abortions here themselves. i feel angry in the way that anybody who is deeply vested in human rights should feel angry and outraged and indignant, any time they are witnessing injustice. we will come to recognise the full cost of criminalising abortion when we start to see the bump in the rise in maternal mortality and morbidity, suffering and death related to conditions that are unique to pregnancy. for the anti—abortion protesters outside, this is a good day. it will be a day of celebration for me, though we will not fully

celebrate until abortion is eradicated fully from our land, until little rock family planning services, for example, is closed down, and does not reopen, then we can celebrate for sure. they will continue their fight, but the supreme court's ruling will fundamentally change the course of the lives of all the women who pass the protesters every day to provide the care they did here. sophie long, bbc news, little rock, arkansas. earlier, my colleague laura trevelyan spoke with charmaine yoest in washington, a former president and ceo of americans united for life. it's a good day. it's a very good day. and i think that kind of pivots to the point i want to make from an international perspective is that it's important for people to know that this represents the culmination of three decades worth of work at the grassroots level in trying to work to pass common sense legislation

on the abortion issue that the vast majority of americans support. i think that point doesn't get made often enough that there are many, many 80% issues that american people have wanted to legislate on for a very long time. informed consent, parental consent, bans on abortion for on disabled babies, things like this that over 80% of americans do think are reasonable limitations on the right to abortion. and, you know, we this over and over and over again in the decision, justice alito wrote and was very careful to write that this is sending the decision back to the american people at the state level. so, when we hear this inflammatory rhetoric about the overturning of roe, what it really means inside the context of our political system is empowering the people. you will still be able to get an abortion in california, new york, connecticut, all of our so called red states here in dc.

you know, there there will be places that will pass legislation that has very sweeping. if you... but charmaine, if you're a woman who lives in alabama who is making this tragic decision to seek an abortion for whatever reason, how are you going to get an abortion? are you concerned that a woman in the deep south might endanger her health with the back seat procedure simply because otherwise she must drive a thousand miles to the nearest clinic? well, i do think it's interesting that you characterise it as a tragic decision, and that's what in the pro—life movement that we focus on, we now have over the last personal decision is perhaps what i should have said. but but what do you say to that woman who now probably is going to have what was the right taken away? and what concerns do you have for the woman in that position? i think you were right to characterise it as a tragic decision, and i think that's the way a lot of people approach this.

and so that's why the pro—life movement has focused very, very deliberately on spreading a network of pregnancy care centres across this country. we now have more pregnancy care centres than we do federally funded health care clinics across this country. and so we're working to build a culture of life. we've said for years that we the ultimate objective was to have babies defended in law and welcomed in life. and so the pro—life community is very focused on helping women, on seeing that their babies are are taking care of it, that there are resources available to them. and so i think that that's an important element to factor into this. and as you see this play out in the days ahead, i've heard some of your other guests talking about the political consequences. i think you'll see that americans are much more pro—life than they've been characterised. and this is a move towards having a much more common sense approach to abortion policy than what we've had, frankly.

you all in europe have, charmaine? we do. we do have slightly more liberal rules. but charmaine, can i ask you, is your ultimate aim to have a national law in the united states banning abortion? well, if you don't mind my coming back to the point you just made, in actual fact, our roe v wade regime here in the united states has been much more radical than what you have in europe. and that's one reason why there hasn't been as much of a pro—life movement overseas. and so what you're seeing here is a move back towards common sense and empowering people to legislate at the state level and to have the values in their own states reflect what they believe. earlier my colleague laura trevelyan spoke with carolyn shapiro. she's a professior at chicago—kent college of law, and she was a clerk for supreme court justice stephen breyer.

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going to suffer a consequence. and those who live _ going to suffer a consequence. and those who live in states, how hard will it be to receive abortion pills? is like when you become the next battleground, legally? that is 10096 next battleground, legally? that is 100% auoin next battleground, legally? that is 10096 going to _ next battleground, legally? that is 10096 going to be _ next battleground, legally? that is 100% going to be a _ next battleground, legally? that is 100% going to be a significant - 100% going to be a significant battleground. obviously, states that outlaw abortion or going to make it difficult if not impossible for women to have access to abortion pills and be really hard for them to regulate there. so, were going to see a lot of legislation that is blatantly unconstitutional where they're just sort of waiting for things to be challenged. iloathed they're just sort of waiting for things to be challenged. what is it sa about things to be challenged. what is it say about the _ things to be challenged. what is it say about the status _ things to be challenged. what is it say about the status of _ things to be challenged. what is it say about the status of the - things to be challenged. what is it say about the status of the court. | say about the status of the court. it's a clear ideological divide, three liberaljustices dissented, the six conservative justices voted to overturn, what is that due to the legitimacy of the court and the eyes of americans? i legitimacy of the court and the eyes of americans?—

of americans? i think it really raises serious _ of americans? i think it really raises serious questions - of americans? i think it really raises serious questions and l of americans? i think it really - raises serious questions and they pointed this out in the argument in this particular case for the site, is this course going to be able to survive the stench of looking at the political nature of this decision? nothing on this court has changed since its last opinions about abortion except for the fact that we now have a majority ofjustices who were appointed by conservative presidents and most of whom have made a very clear they wanted to overturn roe versus wade and for justice to talk about this idea in a politics, this is a textbook case of rawjudicial politics. iuntil]! politics, this is a textbook case of rawjudicial politics.— rawjudicial politics. will cite a statement _ rawjudicial politics. will cite a statement from _ rawjudicial politics. will cite a statement from one _ rawjudicial politics. will cite a statement from one of - rawjudicial politics. will cite a statement from one of the - rawjudicial politics. will cite a - statement from one of the democratic senators albeit from a conservative state, west virginia. he said he trusted the justice when he told him for example and just his who told

him that they respected the president of roe versus wade but in the overturned it. thor;r president of roe versus wade but in the overturned it.— the overturned it. they were appointed — the overturned it. they were appointed to _ the overturned it. they were appointed to the _ the overturned it. they were appointed to the court - the overturned it. they were appointed to the court to it i appointed to the court to it overturn roe versus wade. this something shocking about that we knew that's what the plan was and it has been a plan that is been orchestrated over decades to get the right people in the court in order to overrule it. so whatever they're saying in private conversations in the public confirmation hearings, it was understood that they would get on the court and they would be a vote to overturn roe versus wade knows exactly what they done. hans? knows exactly what they done. nancy pelosi has accused _ knows exactly what they done. nancy pelosi has accused the _ knows exactly what they done. nancy pelosi has accused the justices - knows exactly what they done. nancy pelosi has accused the justices of health and freedom and contraception, family planning, she is claiming that those too could potentially be legally threatened. as i correct in the way? she potentially be legally threatened. as i correct in the way?— as i correct in the way? she is exactly right- _ as i correct in the way? she is exactly right. one _ as i correct in the way? she is

exactly right. one of- as i correct in the way? she is exactly right. one of the - as i correct in the way? she is| exactly right. one of the things that the justices did, but he really tried to cabin in this decision is oh, it'sjust about tried to cabin in this decision is oh, it's just about abortion, don't worry about all these other things. but we think about all the other things americans rely on the come from the right to privacy, the right to make health care decisions for our children or decide where children go to school, the right to marry. women's health organisation. is with the decision means. for nearly 50 years, we have talked about what roe v wade protects. today, as of right now, as of this minute, we can only

talk about roe v wade protected. past tense. this is a health care crisis. because understand, millions of women in america will go to bed tonight without access to the health care and reproductive care that they had this morning. without access to the same health care or reproductive health care that their mothers and grandmothers had for 50 years. this is the first time in the history of our nation that a constitutional right has been taken from the people

of america. and what is that? some might ask, the right to privacy. think about it. the rate for each person to make intimate decisions about heart and home. decisions about heart and home. decisions about the right to start a family. including contraception, such as iuds in the pills. decisions about whether to have a child, including as the senator mentioned, fertilisation. decisions to marry the person you love. loving versus

virginia. this opinion also says when you read it that abortion is not deeply rooted in our nations history. they offer that in the opinion as a foundation for the decision they render today. in holding that, it is not deeply rooted in our history, today's decision on that theory, then, calls into question other rights. that we thought were settled such as the right to use birth control. the right to use birth control. the right to use birth control. the right to same—sex marriage, the right to same—sex marriage, the right to same—sex marriage, the right to interracial marriage. the great aspiration of our nation has

been to expand freedom. but the expansion of freedom clearly is not inevitable. it is not something that just happens. not unless we defend our most fundamental principles, not unless we elect leaders who stand up for those principles. the strength of our nation has always been that we move forward. today, i invite all people to stand together in defence of one of the most fundamental ideals and principles that for generations, for centuries, i

believe we have held dear which is that fundamental principle about the importance of liberty. to stand for liberty. to stand for freedom. to stand for self—determination. and for the right to privacy. you have the power to elect leaders who will defend and protect your rights. as the president said earlier today, with your votes, you can act, and you have the final word. this is not over. god bless you, and god bless america. this is not over, you, and god bless america. this is not over. the _ you, and god bless america. this is not over, the closing _ you, and god bless america. this is not over, the closing words - you, and god bless america. this is not over, the closing words from i you, and god bless america. this is| not over, the closing words from the vice president of the united states,, harris, speaking there in illinois, responding to that ruling that we have heard from the supreme court, just some of what she had to say. —— kamala harris. she said that

william didn't make millions of women in america would be going to sleep without the health care access that they had this money, health care access that their mothers and grandmothers had. she went on to say that the right to make intimate decisions about your home, your family, had been taken away and then it calls into question some other fundamental rights that americans have been avoided in the past, such as the various rights of reproduction and marital rights. she also added that the strength of a nation that had been won, that moves forward. we will reflect on some of what she has had to say, with the rest of our guests in this edition of bbc news. in texas, the state republican leadership has long sought to ban abortion, so we speak to brian hughes, a republican member of the texas state. welcome to bbc news, senator. give us your reaction to this ruling. news, senator. give us your reaction to this ruling-— to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a bi to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a big day _ to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a big day in _

to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a big day in america, _ to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a big day in america, and - to this ruling. thank you having me. it is a big day in america, and it - it is a big day in america, and it has been talked about over america rising up and living out the creed, that all men and people are created equal. today, we took a big step in that direction. that little unborn baby, growing inside her mother's women, that little baby is the most innocent, the most helpless, the most deserving of protection a person can ever be, and today, equal protection has been extended to that little baby, that while we take care of the little baby and save the baby's live, we are also in texas, have a lot of support and impact respect for the mothers, we coming the law last year, we increased funding to $100 million for a programme can, just to help those mums who are facing difficult pregnancies, difficult choices. we can see the light of the baby, while we love and respect as it supports the mother. that is what we're going to do in texas. this is a big day. it is a big day for your state and i do want to talk about the implications your state, but various research shows that two thirds of

americans believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. do you believe that this ruling that your position on this is in line with the sentiments of the majority of americans? this in line with the sentiments of the majority of americans?— in line with the sentiments of the majority of americans? as you know, this rulin: majority of americans? as you know, this ruling means _ majority of americans? as you know, this ruling means that _ majority of americans? as you know, this ruling means that each _ majority of americans? as you know, this ruling means that each state, - this ruling means that each state, the people of each state, will make their own decisions. the ruling today does not end abortion, the ruling today does the mac lets the people make the decisions, just like our constitutional system design. we're states that are lavatories of democracy, different states try different approaches, and so that is where we will be now, texas, it will move towards protecting more innocent human life, states like california and new york will have a lots more abortions. people can vote with their feet, they cannot decide what policies they prefer, they can advocate for those policies, so this is a federalism where each state makes its own decisions, whether people make their own decisions.

this is a good move. find people make their own decisions. this is a good move. and what does it move practically _ this is a good move. and what does it move practically for _ this is a good move. and what does it move practically for your - this is a good move. and what does it move practically for your state? i it move practically for your state? and that you are central in bringing about a ban on abortion after six weeks in texas, practically speaking, we have been hearing a great deal about trigger laws, which will eventually ban abortion in various states in the united states, so what does it mean for texas? irate so what does it mean for texas? we did ass so what does it mean for texas? - did pass a galore last year that now will take effect, so that means that we will of course allow abortions for the mothers who want them when the mother's life is at risk all there is a serious risk to the mother's health. of course, the mothers would be allowed to make a decision. forabortions mothers would be allowed to make a decision. for abortions on healthy babies and healthy ones, those little unborn babies will now be protected in texas, so our trailer will take effect here in a few weeks, but already, already today, it was 1973 and roe versus wade, texas case, with the supreme court,

blocked enforcement of the texas enforcement laws, that stopped abortion, again, except for the life and the health of the mother. we passed a law last year in the heart beat law, reaffirming that those pre—roe versus wade statutes are still alive, and once roe versus wade goes away, those laws come back into effect. so immediately, in texas, of course, to save the life of the mother, and the mother's house, abortions are allowed if the mother chooses. beyond that, those little unborn baby is growing inside their mothers�* wins, they will be protected in texas, starting today. i want to unpick what you have just said. we talk about the well—being of, quote, little unborn babies, but can i also talk about the well—being of mothers? because we�*re already seeing a rise in the number of women in texas crossing border into mexico because we are seeing large numbers of latin american countries liberalising when it comes to their

abortion laws, many believe america is going backwards on that front. they are risking their lives in many cases to travel to other countries, to have these abortions, having unsafe abortions, so does that not put their lives at risk? where you stand on that? that this may result in more mothers who believe that abortion is the only choice for them, the right choice for them, that this could lead to their lives being put at risk was?— that this could lead to their lives being put at risk was? wanted to rive those being put at risk was? wanted to give those mothers _ being put at risk was? wanted to give those mothers more - being put at risk was? wanted to l give those mothers more options, more opportunities. when you talk to women that have been through abortion, most of them will say, and they have said this through polling and interviews, most of them will say, if my circumstances were different, i would have made a difference choice. that is why, that is why we set up this programme, to provide more help, tangible help, baby formula, car seats, provide more help, tangible help, baby formula, carseats, baby clothes, diapers, job training, parenting classes, help with adoption, we are offering tangible help to those mothers so they will have more options. there are two

lives at issue, the life of the mother and the life of the little unborn baby, we want to love them both and protect them both. that is what we are — both and protect them both. that is what we are going _ both and protect them both. that is what we are going to _ both and protect them both. that is what we are going to do. _ both and protect them both. that is what we are going to do. we - both and protect them both. that is what we are going to do. we were l what we are going to do. we were hearing from my colleague, normally a cabal, speaking to a young girl from texas say she is petrified for her future. from texas say she is petrified for herfuture. what from texas say she is petrified for her future. what happens to women and to those who assist them in having abortions, if they go ahead, with an abortion in your state? —— nomia iqbal. what will be the consequences? i�*m nomia iqbal. what will be the consequences?— nomia iqbal. what will be the consequences? nomia iqbal. what will be the conseruences? ., consequences? i'm so glad you asked because that — consequences? i'm so glad you asked because that has _ consequences? i'm so glad you asked because that has been _ consequences? i'm so glad you asked because that has been a _ because that has been a misunderstanding and a lot of circles. underthe misunderstanding and a lot of circles. under the heartbeat law that we passed last year, under current law, underthe that we passed last year, under current law, under the law today, in texas, there is no criminal prosecution of mothers. there is no civil action against mothers, mothers other victims of abortion. they are not going to be affected by the texas laws. a doctor that performs an illegal abortion, that doctor should be concerned because their medical license will be on the line, as well as criminal and civil

liability, so let�*s talk about those mothers. we love those mothers who want to support them, they will not be targeted by these laws. 50 want to support them, they will not be targeted by these laws.- be targeted by these laws. so 'ust to beccean1 — be targeted by these laws. so 'ust to be clear, any i be targeted by these laws. so 'ust to be clear, any medical�* to be clear, any medical professional who assists a woman having an abortion in the state of texas could face criminal action? if texas could face criminal action? if it is an illegal abortion, if it is not an abortion to save the life of the mother, or to protect the mother�*s health, those abortions would be illegal, and medical professionals, licensed by the state, they should take note. we are serious about protecting innocent life in texas. serious about protecting innocent life in texas— life in texas. going forward, senator. _ life in texas. going forward, senator, what _ life in texas. going forward, senator, what is _ life in texas. going forward, senator, what is your - life in texas. going forward, l senator, what is your ultimate life in texas. going forward, - senator, what is your ultimate goal, is it to virtually ban abortion in your state? is it to virtually ban abortion in yourstate? is is it to virtually ban abortion in your state? is it to take that even wider and take it countrywide? mr; wider and take it countrywide? my focus wider and take it countrywide? m focus is on wider and take it countrywide? m1: focus is on texas. wider and take it countrywide? m1 focus is on texas. we wider and take it countrywide? m1: focus is on texas. we want to wider and take it countrywide? m1 focus is on texas. we want to make sure than in texas, little lives are being protected, mothers are being helped, and that is what you�*re going to see from us when the legislator comes back into session. i will be providing bills that

provide more support for those mothers, and for the babies. that is what is going to be our focus now that roe v wade has gone and the states can make their own choices, we will protect innocent life in texas while we love and respect and support those mothers. that is what you�*ll be seeing from me. support those mothers. that is what you'll be seeing from me.— you'll be seeing from me. senator brian you'll be seeing from me. senator izvrian hughes. _ you'll be seeing from me. senator brian hughes, a _ you'll be seeing from me. senator brian hughes, a republican - you'll be seeing from me. senator i brian hughes, a republican member you'll be seeing from me. senator - brian hughes, a republican member of the texas state senate, thank you for your time here on bbc news. thank you for having me. earlier, my colleaaue thank you for having me. earlier, my colleague spoke _ colleague spoke with carolyn shapiro. she is a professor at chicago kent college of law, and she was a clerk for the supreme court justice. and unsurprisingly saw the leaked draft in may, but said the same thing because are not surprised at the content of that craft either, that we have the justices who are in the majority here, who have made it very clear for a long time, the majority here, who have made it very clearfor a long time, their views about the body of law that led

to roe, that they think it was wrongly decided in the first place, i think the case was wrongly decided, —— casey was wrongly decided, —— casey was wrongly decided, and they have not shown a whole lot of respect for precedent, despite what they may have said in the confirmation hearings, i think they are certainly never promised they are certainly never promised they wouldn�*t revisit set of presidents, and what we have seen most recently from them is a series of opinions in which they have refused to apply settled law in any situation in which it would lead to allow women to have abortions, in particular, i�*m thinking about the texas law, sb8, that allows an individual to sue a person for helping someone to get an abortion. there was no real idea to establish that law, except to allow roe and katie to have effect. ihshd that law, except to allow roe and katie to have effect.— katie to have effect. and so this doesnt katie to have effect. and so this doesn't exactly _ katie to have effect. and so this doesn't exactly resolve - katie to have effect. and so this doesn't exactly resolve the - katie to have effect. and so this - doesn't exactly resolve the abortion doesn�*t exactly resolve the abortion issue, does it? in the united states because like there is no longer a

federal constitutional rights guaranteed for abortion, so now, are theyjust going to have even more legal battles in states where abortion is illegal? the attempts to try to still give women access to abortion pills?— try to still give women access to abortion pills? there are going to be untold numbers— abortion pills? there are going to be untold numbers of— abortion pills? there are going to be untold numbers of types - abortion pills? there are going to be untold numbers of types of. be untold numbers of types of battles that we are going to be seeing it moving forward. the landscape we have right now, as of the decision, about half of the states, abortion is either completely illegal or extraordinarily restrictive. in about half of the states, there are some protections for abortion. some states are going to try to do things like make it illegalfor residents of their states to travel to another state, for the purpose of obtaining an abortion, or a state, for the purpose of obtaining an abortion, ora resident state, for the purpose of obtaining an abortion, or a resident of the state to help somebody to do that. some states are going to try to make it illegal to have abortion pills travel through the mail, which i think is going to be a big issue for

federal power. some states do make people are going to try to get the shakes and people are going to get congress to act, and the entire movement —— and i am abortion movement is certainly interested, and that is going to be a significant national political battle going forward. —— anti—abortion movement. people who support women�*s rights to protect their bodies, will want to have congress passed a law, to allow that protection of women�*s bodies, so we will see lots of contentious legislation or attempts to legislate at the state and federal levels. law has also been speaking to another woman who fights against gender—based violence. she has this to say. it is devastating. at the same reaction up as people who have been watching and fighting this issue, people who get pregnant have been worrying about this, and this is exactly what has

happened. it not only sets the movement of reproductive justice, you know, the right for us to have body autonomy back so far. we are already seeing the ripple effects. let�*s be clear, for people who have access to wealth, they cannot travel —— they can travel, but they will be able to make that decision. the people who are going to be stuck with this are going to be harmed by it, are those who do not access to disposable income —— income, do not have the time, or have access to transport. in numbers, that is going to be black women, mostly, who are disproportionately affected by economic disparity and also racial injustice. when it states start moving towards criminalising access

to abortion or seeking it, that really puts that particular group at the most risk, so banning abortion never stops abortion, just like taking away contraception doesn�*t stop people from having sex. itjust puts it in the hands of people who are desperate to get it and people exploit that, so we have unsafe abortions. 45% of all induced abortions. 45% of all induced abortions according to the un, are unsafe abortions. 50. abortions according to the un, are unsafe abortions.— unsafe abortions. so, what will be our unsafe abortions. so, what will be your focus — unsafe abortions. so, what will be your focus now? _ unsafe abortions. so, what will be your focus now? will _ unsafe abortions. so, what will be your focus now? will it _ unsafe abortions. so, what will be your focus now? will it be, - yourfocus now? will it be, for example, states like georgia, where the governor has suggested that abortion should be banned, somewhere between 15 and 20 weeks? parrots? between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow immunity in _ between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow immunity in terms _ between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow immunity in terms of— between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow immunity in terms of our- between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow immunity in terms of our users i between 15 and 20 weeks? arrow. immunity in terms of our users and our teams are based in the us, and what happens in the us has ripple effects in other parts of the world, especially poker is a far right

groups, anti—abortion groups in the us have been funding anti—abortion movements in the rest of the world, including latin america, so we will absolutely be foundering on gender disinformation. we�*re already seeing that women are being told that abortion clinics are being sucked down when they have not been shut down. there�*s lots of confusion, so we�*ll be the misinformation, fighting the direct action that is going to be happening and really take it to the streets, because this is a fundamental rights, human rights, and at the time, he president biden, —— from president biden, this is the limit should not wait until november, for the ballots. i really hope that the white house can do something tangible right now, to support those who need to have access to abortion care, right now, with material support and really protect that dialogue that will be happening and

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