this is bbc news. the headlines: leaders of the g7 group of nations have been meeting in germany. over the next couple of days, they're expected to promise further military support for ukraine and impose more sanctions on moscow. ukraine's foreign minister urged them to provide more heavy weapons for his country and further isolate russia. in ukraine, the capital kyiv has suffered intense attacks — more than a dozen missile strikes launched by russia, the most sustained barrage in months. it happened hours after president zelensky warned that the war is entering a difficult phase. a nine—storey residential building was damaged. a wooden grandstand crowded with spectators has collapsed during a bullfighting festival in colombia, killing at least four people. dozens of others were injured when the three—storey structure came down in the western city of espinal. colombia's president—elect has

called for amateur bullfights to be banned. now on bbc news, dateline london. hello and a very warm welcome to dateline london. i'm kasia madera. it's very good of you to be with us today. this week, we're discussing the us supreme court overturning a 50—year—old ruling that legalised abortion nationwide and look at its implication for millions of american women. we'll also be discussing the aftermath of the recent by—elections here in the uk

and will be asking what the losses for the conservative party mean for the future of borisjohnson and his government, and we're also going to investigate allegations that russia is deporting captured ukrainians, including children. today for dateline london, we'rejoined by the uk's veteran political commentator, steve richards, also joining us, ned temko from the christian science monitor and we welcome vera krichevskaya, the founder of moscow's tv channel rain tv that is actually banned by president putin. welcome to you all, it's really great to have you all here. we are going to start with the us supreme court. it has voted to overturn the landmark ruling that legalised abortion almost 50 years ago. it struck down the roe v. wade decision weeks after a leaked document suggested that it favoured doing so. this decision paves the way for half the country to severely restrict or completely ban terminations. ned, it makes sense to start with you. i want to pick up on something

your publication has written. the draft was leaked. we're not really surprised, but as your publication, as the christian science monitor, has said, this decision was unthinkablejust a few years ago. we're seeing a monumental change across the united states. it's almost impossible to overstate the significance of this and there have been periods ofjudicial activism by the supreme court in the past, most famously in the late 1950s, �*60s, �*70s over civil rights legislation but the difference was that was explicitly extending a right or a series of rights that were at the core of the american project of the constitution and it's equality under the law, equal access,

equal treatment. this is the first time the supreme court, for political reasons because of the change in balance of the supreme court's membership, is removing a right that has been settled law for 50 years and in the short term, within hours, some of these trigger laws in republican party—ruled states are already, as we speak, limiting and almost banning abortions. then in the medium to longer term, i think there will be huge social and political repercussions because of whole generations of american women. and this is not a partisan issue, if you're a young woman seeing, all of a sudden, a basic right or what you assume to be a basic right taken away by the supreme court. i think there will be repercussions and potentially even repercussions in the form

of a backlash at the polls against those who have been militating for this change for years. president biden came out quickly to talk about this and he sounded upset, he sounded angry and very emotive. he was talking about this idea of helping women reach the states, travel to states where they can potentially access, but it's not easy, as easy as that. i thought it was an impressive response, because the anger was genuine it sort of energised him, but i found it so interesting to watch an energised president, the supposedly mighty president of the united states, utterly impotent to do anything about what ned has suggested is a kind of revolution taking place in the united states.

i know the united states constitution is this glorious kind of, apparently elegant mix of checks and balances of power, but i sometimes think it is all over the place. so, this is donald trump's supreme court in effect rendering the new president unable to do anything about this extraordinary change, so that's really, just watching from a distance, the practical measures, there are states where abortion will still be available so may some can go there, but as biden mentioned, there will be many poor people who will be affected by this and maybe they won't have the time, the money to get to other states and so this is going... my favourite word in politics is "consequences" — the consequences of this are many and deep. and we will reach those in a moment.

ned, i'll come back to you on that. vera, when we witness protest against abortion rights in poland for example, we witness the tens of thousands of women going out on the streets in warsaw in different towns and cities across poland, it's fascinating to see it from that kind of perspective as to what is happening in such an influential country, in the united states. it's speechless for me. today i felt that i am | a second—class citizen because i feel so because my rights — not mine _ because i'm not american — - but women's rights were taken. it's nonsense. speechless. absolute. when we talk about the consequences, and i think a lot of people are making their feelings very, very vocal and many,

many women are saying similar to what you have just said, vera, lots of people are not as well. a lot of people have been campaigning for a long time for this, ned, and that also has to be understood. yeah, this was not an accident. indeed, one of the frustrations for those who wanted to defend roe v. wade was, to put it mildly, an element of subterfuge involved in the congressional part of the path that got us here, in that when president obama had a vacancy to fill on the supreme court in the final year of his administration of the then—republican—run senate, they refused to even consider his nominee, then very, very near the end of the trump administration, they fast—tracked a nominee for trump so, in effect, as steve said, trump has three nominees on this court fulfilling a long, explicit aim

for leaders on the right of the republican party to get rid of roe v.wade. and what the long—term consequences are is hard to tell, but i think one thing that bears watching is one of trump's vulnerabilities at the polls turned out to be suburban republican women who are traditionally rock—solid — or many of them have been — republican party supporters who were so alienated by his behaviour, what he did. this is a very real, and vera you touched on this. this is a unifying cause, which touches women voters whether you are young, old, republican, democrat, and i think it may be

a question of be careful what you wish for if you are on the right of the republican party and trying for a long time. it's not clear to me that there won't be a backlash. there is something the president can do, but we were discussing earlier, he's not going to do it. packing the supreme court, would be a risky thing to do because it would end up like the house of lords here, every time a new president comes in, that packing would continue and become absurd. apparently, that is the only mechanism and it's not going to be deployed. it is very interesting hearing ned talking about what happens when the evangelical right who have been campaigning wins. british politics is bonkers at the moment, but british politics is pretty secular so it's interesting

when you have this victory. from my experience of politics, there are some who just love campaigning, going to meetings, getting very angry, who, when they actually win, run a mile. let's see what happens. maybe they're all feeling euphoric at the moment. but when stories emerge, as president biden said in his response, what happens if someone is a victim of incest and so on? these stories are vivid, if they emerge, and that is when i think the backlash could be wider than some of those who have been campaigning for this had contemplated while they were enjoying the anger and passion of the campaign. we'll see that backlash. as ned was saying, the consequences. vera, when it comes to what russia is looking at,

monitoring what is happening in the us, how do you think this is going to be relayed back to the russian people, this decision that is so polarising in that country? ithink... i'm guessing now, but i think propaganda would use it - against the states obviously. at the same time, it's a tricky one because russia is drivingl to a very conservative society and we heard such voices - from church last years, - but i would rather propaganda was used to show, "look, i this is the states, come on." divisions within that country, absolutely.

we will cross over the pond now. boris johnson's conservative party lost two by—elections this week. is there something fundamental going on? are we meant to read into this? they are by—elections after all. but they can be significant, it depends on the context in which they take place. the two by—elections, one in a seat in the south—west of england and another in the previously labour— held territory which boris johnson won in december 2019, to lose both following a vote of confidence from your own mps earlier in the same month where he kind of struggled on, but not with a great triumphant win, means it will create further speculation about his leadership and a former conservative leader,

michael howard, speaks cautiously when he says he should resign, joining those who have already called on that to happen, a growing number of tory backbenchers. you've also had his co—chairman quit as well. in a way that is the most significant thing that has happened. it hardly ever happens outside elections, but when it does, it is when the cabinet turns. there is no sign that anyone else is going to follow yet, it's a weak and timid cabinet, dependent on boris johnson's patronage, but the chairman went in the early hours of the morning after the by—election with a very scathing letter so that fuels the turbulence. the big question remains, what is the trigger to remove him? he won't go voluntarily, that's the only certainty in the current situation.

the other certainty is it will trigger a summer of turmoil for him. asummer asummer of a summer of turmoil. when it comes to what is happening in the little details, i wonder how much interest for your application, are you looking at these details are the bigger picture? borisjohnson, this is happening in the uk, but he, at the moment, he is visiting rwanda and will be in germany for the g7, in spain for nato — what perspective are you taking? political high drama always makes good copy and boris, whatever his other faults, is always an entertainer as a politician — not always for the right reasons. it's a little — the mirror image was that the rest of the world couldn't take its eyes off of donald trump during the trump administration. he's watched as much? well, only for curiosity value, but obviously, this is a close ally. it's a democracy — it is the mother of democracies,

mother of parliaments — so this is interesting. the only thing i would add to what steve said is the other side of the equation, and that is labour. it's clear the tories are in deep trouble and i'd be curious to see whether steve agrees — my sense is we are not quite at what may be called tony blair new labour moment. and for those of you who are lucky enough to be young enough not to remember tony blair or new labour, in the 1990s... we're all of that age! in the 1990s, by the time of the election, you had a tired conservative government, you had internal differences within the conservative party — they had been in power for 18 years — the road was up, very much the way we feel — or some people feel — about the current conservative government. but you also had a sense

of almost inevitability that this — and we forget this young, bright, articulate, well—prepared alternative government was waiting in the wings — and you had a sense of a tide turning and i don't get that sense quite yet with the current labour party and keir starmer. you don't get that with sir keir starmer? it you don't get that with sir keir starmer?— you don't get that with sir keir starmer? ._ . ., , keir starmer? it may change but i don't get _ keir starmer? it may change but i don't get that. _ is it something you think we are on the cusp of, change in this country, or not really? right now, i'm the wrong person to ask because i follow— ukrainian perspectives. you know that. boris johnson is a hero - in ukraine now and everything he does towards ukraine, it triggers the different i he does towards ukraine, it triggers completely- different— feelings and emotions, so that's why i'm the wrong person because each time he stands nextl to mr zelensky, it - makes him even bigger. he popped up in kyiv, didn't

he? we were expecting him somewhere else in the uk. yeah, eah. we'll talk about ukraine in a moment, but going back to what ned was saying, steve. so, change? what do you reckon? there is a tide against this government. there is enough evidence of that — it has been in power for 12 years. this is its fourth term and it will be looking for a fifth. but ned is right — there isn't the same tidal shift towards a labour that there was in the build to '97 but you wrongly called me a veteran — i'm still rocking and very young! — but i'm told there are many times in british politics when it's like this — that there isn't an obvious enthusiasm for one party or another and it may be that britain is staggering towards a hung parliament, but if that is the case, there will be a labour government because the smaller parties would back a change of government and not give this— lot another term, so it

might be a more clumsy, less tangible tidal wave than 1997 under tony blair, but i feel there is a shift. what do you mean feel? they have just lost two by—elections. the date has just gone from my head but last time that happened the government went on to win the election. it happened the government went on to win the election.— to win the election. it was varied. in 2010, there was a coalition, sometimes there is a minority in the 705, which was similar to now in some respects. there was in minority government, labour government, which staggered on for quite a few years, so it doesn't always mean when one party is in trouble, there-s— going to be a landslide for the other, so we may be in that sort of terrain. 0k, well, we watch and wait. we're all veterans here. no, we're all young! young at heart! as vera mentioned, russia's attack on ukraine grinds on and a disturbing development emerging from the war is the huge

displacement of people and also the allegations of deportations of hundreds of civilians and prisoners of war to remote parts of russia. so, vera, let's focus in on what the allegations are here when it comes to people forcibly taken to russia. first of all, there are two i different groups of people. first, it's— the prisoners of war. it is one group and i this group of people, pows, they are placed - in a prison that was previously cleared for them or speciall pre—trial detention centres, mostly in the south of russia, and we do not have information of what is going on there. - i saw many leaked videos - and photos from such centres,

prisons — but all footage, we have to verify — - but what i saw, i saw a group of people with masks - on their eyes walking l with guards or sitting, but again, i cannotl verify those photos. and another group of people — the problem is, all these - centres are run by fsb. i don't know if evenl single states report, the propaganda representative who was there, who filmed - there inside the centres — i propaganda released several clips with ukrainian war prisoners. - they were nice, tidy, i they were reading books and watching tv, but it is part of the russian metaverse — i it's show business, it's notjournalism, so it's a staged story.

another group of. people — it's huge. it's based on official russian figures that were released . a week ago, it was 1,400,000 people who were — _ the refugee amount in russia. those people, most of them, they had no choice to go - to the western countries, l to come back to other parts of ukraine or go to russia — they didn't have a choice. . many people, many sources — we know right now, many. refugees managed to cross the border in estonia - with the help of independent volunteers in russia — especially— in st petersburg — they helped people to cross the border- in estonia and all these people are our trusted sources now. because they are give interviews, _

they tell the story how they i crossed the russian—ukrainian border, how they spend weeks in filtration camps, _ how they were interrogated, i etc, how they were searched. and it's those early testimonies that are really crucial, to gather those testimonies, the fsb, the russian federal security service, but it's also the supreme council of ukraine, the commissioner of human rights, who gave those numbers that you were saying, vera — 1.3 million ukrainians, including over 200,000 children, that the commissioner of human rights were saying were forcibly deported. ned, itjust, this — and vera, thank you for stressing that this is not verified,

and it's really important to stress that — but it adds to the devastating news that we are hearing about the brutality of the conflict, to the enormous displacement that we are witnessing. and add to that the fact that there is no end in sight and that this seems to be dragging on. and vera mentioned borisjohnson. one of the reasons he is so popular in ukraine is that he is one of the few — or one of the leading — western figures who has been pressing for the west to keep paying attention. and it's hard to escape the notion that for putin, he is hoping that time is on his side. that basically, if this drags on for a long time, will the west's attention span wane? will the fact that economic problems are mountain, that winter is coming, that it's harder to keep a coalition together for months on end,

will that cause western unity and effectiveness to flag? if that happens, one can only assume there will be many, many more people spirited out of ukraine and into parts of russia. and, steve, you've got one sentence to speak about this — but borisjohnson described the concerns about fatigue when it comes to this war. yes, and it will be reflected notjust in leaders, but in voters worried about the impact on energy prices, food prices and the longer it goes on, the more that word 'fatigue' could turn into something else altogether — an intolerance of the consequences, to use that word again, so, a long, drawn—out war of attrition will test not only the will of leaders, but voters too. and in the meantime, it's the civilians, it's the people on the ground, the millions of people that have been displaced

and at the start of the war. i was on the border between poland and ukraine and witnessed hundreds of thousands, now millions of people who have had to flee ukraine. as usual, we are out of time, there is so much to discuss but we are out of time. i would like to say a big thank—you, vera, it's great to have you on. steve as well, thanks for your contribution. and, ned, on such a historic day for the united states. so, thank you very much for sharing all your views. to all of our panellists, a big, big thank you and a very big thank you for watching at home. do join us again same time next week, but for the time being, from me and the dateline team, it's goodbye.

hello. even with the weekend's rain in the west, it's been a rather dry month so far across most parts of the country but if i show you the rainfall animation for this week, notice how it mounts up across these western areas, the colours deepening. it's here where we could see anything between 40—80mm of rain, more especially around the hills and the coast. some eastern areas where, so far thisjune, we've seen onlyjust over a quarter of our normal rainfall, not a huge amount is expected at all, although there's still a chance we could see a bit more towards the south—east corner through the middle part of the week. the reason — well, areas of low pressure are going to come in off the atlantic and then stall before working northwards, as this one did from sunday, leaving a trailing weather front to take us into monday, which will produce sunshine and showers working their way eastwards, but much lighter winds than we saw through the weekend. so, this is how we start the day — the commuting temperature somewhere between 11—13 degrees, not desperately cold out there, but a line of cloud and showery rain western england, eastern wales to begin with, maybe just in the south—east of scotland, too, that trundles its way eastwards through the day, fragmenting even more, but it does mean sunnier skies develop

in its wake. just a few showers dotted around — not as many as we saw on the weekend — so western areas much, much brighter compared with sunday, though winds not as strong. still a noticeable breeze, though, coming infrom the south—west and it's a slightly cooler direction for some of you compared with what we saw through the weekend, especially in the east of the country. but actually, with more sunshine, lighterwinds in the west, it should feel a touch warmer. temperatures 17—21 — around where we should be. early peak in the pollen levels in east anglia, the south—east and then a later peak in the west and, of course, monday sees the start of wimbledon. cloudy skies to begin with, brightening up. could just see a few spots of rain around lunchtime but mostly dry for the bulk of the day. and dry into the evening and overnight, too, across eastern areas but the next batch of wet and windy weather pushes in through northern ireland and towards the west, keeping temperatures here in teens for one or two, but a chillier night to the eastern half of the country — 5—6 degrees in rural areas to start tuesday. so, this is the next area of low pressure for tuesday, coming off the atlantic and stalling. the winds blowing up the weatherfront, so it

doesn't move a great deal. it will clear away from northern ireland during the morning but will linger across parts of central south—western scotland, wales and push into the western fringes of england. brighter skies in the west later. always dry and brighter through central—eastern england, where it will be a bit warmer — 2a degrees the potential high. overall, though, temperatures around average for the time of year. more rain in the north and west, driest in the south and east.

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